i've watched so many passport reviews. This was the best one... Thank you for the video quality, ALL the info, and the test drive. I'm now a subscriber!
Your review sounded like my line of reasoning for going with a passport. Some off road ability, tons of storage, nice ride. The automatic transmission and V6 motor was also a big selling point for us. I'm not a fan of cvt or turbo on small engines. We made sure to get the AWD and added the towing package so we could tow 5000lbs. It checks off a lot of boxes for me and my wife. Which it should considering the price tag.
I honestly don't even remember when and how I stumbled upon your channel but after one video I subscribed!!! Love your absolutely comprehensive review. Interior, features, safety systems, slow mo awd and traction control test, offroad test and on road trip really gives a total picture for us viewers and potential customers. Keep up the great work and stay safe out there!!!
We went with a Passport, partly because of your review. We’re very happy-what a great vehicle! Handles the demand of Wisconsin public land off-roading for hunting easily, is excellent in the snow, has TONS of space, and I’m getting 25-26 mpg (highway) in single digit temperatures. Thanks for the GREAT review!
@@joerotman5214 It was solid - not spectacular. TBF, the standard tires that come on it are definitely not snow tires in any way, shape, or form. Eventually we'll invest in some snow tires. The torque vectoring AWD and traction control do a really good job in slippery conditions. I was able to drive through about 2 feet of snow at our friend's place to unload some wood & home supplies when working on a house project - even with the thin stock tires. I'm going to invest in a performance air filter (most likely K&N) which should boost MPG's. Getting 25-26 highway this spring so far.
I just picked up the Passport Elite, needed for business in Florida, I only have about 200 highway miles on it, I don’t see myself going off road like this video is showing, but as a 61 yr old male, I’ve had just about every 4x4 out there, Acura’s, Jeeps, etc, etc, So far with the minimal road miles I have used the vehicle, I like it so far, I’m not a tech type guy, but this vehicle is loaded with far more bling then I will ever use. Planning on keeping this vehicle for 3 to 4 years. But with the little experience I have with it, I have nothing yet to complain about so far. I was on the lot to buy a Ridgeline, but this vehicle caught my eye, it’s appealing, gotten few compliments already, but I will definitely add to this story in about a month of use in Florida road travel.
Once again, an excellent video. I have to say, I watch a lot of review videos for all kinds of vehicles in every segment. I very much appreciate how thorough you are. Please keep them coming.
Ryan, I have the 2019 Passport Elite and I am for the most part happy with my purchase. Your video is very well done. The video production is excellent and you cover so many areas of the Passport I am impressed. Thank you for making such a high quality video with great information.
The fact he did this on the stock OEM 20in tires is INCREDIBLE. Hard to find A/T tires in a 20in tire size. Especially, what Honda went with on the EX-L and Elite trims. Which is 265/45/20. Not many choices in that size. HOWEVER, over on the Honda forums many folks have had great success going with a 275/45/20 which gives you a bit more sidewall and you can keep your stock rims. Granted this is for the EX-L and Elite trim models. As the new 2022 Trailsport has 18in wheels. Which just offer a FAR better experience on roads like he was on in this video. The ride alone will be much more pleasant and absorb the bumps better. I think Honda was kinda not thinking when they went with 20in wheels for the other trim models. They should have just stuck with 18's for all the models.
yeah, the 20's alone are enough to put me off on the crap roads here where I live. Not to mention the astronomical extra cost when you get 20's. 18's are far more affordable and give me a better ride. Wish they had options. Buying a car, then having to pay extra to get rid of the bad riding wheel and tire combo. For some its okay, but they didn't even offer a choice.
Really considering one of these after my golf. I had a renegade trailhawk before the Golf and loved the offroad capability just didn't like visiting the dealer every week for service and electrical problems.
Thank you. I’m about to jump into the 2020 Passport after having my Odyssey 2008 for so long. I’m excited to have this now that my 2 older kids have their own vehicles and we just have our 7 yr old for more adventures and road trips! Thanks for the great review- for our needs, this car seems perfect!
Wow! Blown away by your detailed review of the Honda Passport. Honestly, the Passport wasn't even on my radar screen for my next SUV purchase. Thank you mentioning the Passport in your Subaru Ascent video. So glad I decided to check out this Passport video. Now, I am seriously not considering buying a Toyota 4Runner and buying a Honda Passport instead. Thanks again!
I have a f150 truck and a passport. I'm seriously considering getting rid of the truck for something smaller and more fuel efficient. The AWD passport with towing package (hitch, wiring harness, transmission cooler) can tow 5000lbs. I have a small tractor and when loaded on my single axle trailer it is around 3000lbs. I can't imagine many people really would need more than what the passport can do. If you have a place to store a trailer then it definitely can do anything you would need it to do.
You should turn traction control off in Honda’s on slippery surfaces like dirt sand and mud or you’ll overheat the transmission and AWD. I learned this the hard way in my Ridgeline. With TC off it never overheated again. Honda helps you with this using the Sand mode which reduces the TC the most.
Ldawson103 in the Passport, you're much LESS likely to overheat any of those things. You're Ridgeline only has the Honda 6speed which has a 14:1 crawl ratio, the passport has the ZF 9 speed transmission that has a 20:1 crawl ratio, that's a substantial difference. Having a more capable crawl ratio means less bogging and more effective use of momentum. Watch my latest video where I ride along a 100 series land cruiser. There is a point where I overheat my AWD system. I find that Sand mode is the main culprit, it increases throttle input sensitivity, it also simulates a lock on the rear differential. During difficult obstacles that requires one of the rear wheels to need more than 70% torque, the rear differential unlocks and acts as a limited slip differential. When one of the rear wheels are in the air during a steep rutted climb and you're foot is down on the gas pedal half way causing 100% throttle because of sand mode sensitivity, you're going to over heat the rear differential. I've done it twice and only in that situation, only in Sand mode going up something really difficult. ua-cam.com/video/chauK9ZLKhI/v-deo.html
Some of the subi fans might get mad but this trumps all of the Subaru’s since they switched to CVT transmissions. Seeing this passport crawl over stuff with little effort makes sense because it actually has a decent crawl ratio 20.1 compared to anything in the class with about a 10.1 . I seen a modified passport with a 3 inch lift and some BFG tires it looked amazing. Great video
CONSOLETHUMBS - hey it’s me! I have Cooper AT3’s though. So, not only does the passport have a 20:1 crawl ratio, but it also has a twin clutch rear differential that can simulate a LSD, or in sand and mud mode simulate a locker.
@@JonDZ_Adventuring Hi Jon. Are you sure you can stay at 1st gear? I have tested the Passport and what I noticed was that it auto shifted upwards by it self even when I was using paddle shifters in Sport mode. How do you keep your Passport in 1st gear to do your 'crawling'? I am seriously considering getting the Passport but there are several issues I have with it. #1) No stick gear shifter #2) Seems to auto up shift even when you're using paddle shifters in Sport mode #3) No Hill Descent mode #4) No LOW mode -- or simulated low mode like X-Mode. #5) The suite of smart driving and safety features are older tech -- not the newer version used on the Odyssey and the Accord. The Adaptive Cruise Control is somewhat jerky and doesn't come to a complete stop. There's no Lane Centering feature, only a mild form of Lane Keeping assist. Honda should have put their newer version from the Odyssey in the Passport. These are just some of the glaring issues that consistently stick out to me. I know you don't think Kia/Hyundia's AWD system is as capable as Honda's i-VTM4 system, but Kia/Hyundaia offers a better suite of driving assist and safety features. The real deal torque vectoring of i-VTM4 is something I do appreciate and probably the only real pro that would make me buy the Passport but I really wish Honda would have added a 50/50 lock button as well. And I really want a LOW mode, or even a simulated LOW mode like the X-Mode in Subarus. That said, I may still end up with the Passport as there aren't really any other options, unless I go with Jeep or 4Runner.
Subaru barely makes it down the road today let alone off roading. "...70 percent of new Subaru vehicles are now the object of recalls or service campaigns within two years of being purchased, noting that the “permissible limit” should be around 10 percent." www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2019/06/report-outlines-how-subaru-is-coping-with-quality-control-issues/
Not sure how I found this channel but I'm so glad I did. Very professional content and I love how you actually show the driving modes and off road ability. I bet if you threw on some semi better off road tires it be a tank off road.
Good review Ryan. I really like the Passport except for the 20inch wheels and tires. Just too rough of a ride. I drove both the Passport and the Ridgeline. I bought the Ridgeline because it rides like a luxury vehicle and is so quiet inside while driving. If I bought the Passport, I was going to put 18" wheels and higher profile tires on the vehicle.
I need to test drive this car. I absolutely love it. From the reviews on cars dot com the majority love it and say it’s very comfy. Gotta see for myself I guess. Did you test ride any other trucks like the Jeep GC???
My wife and I felt the opposite. Didn't really like the Ridgeline for her. It has some cool features like the trunk, and in bed stereo that sounds great. We ended up with the AWD passport and added the optional transmission cooler so it can tow 5000lbs.
It is true that the Passport doesn't have tire/wheel well suited for the off-road, but it can be easily fixed by the aftermarket products. I would imagine that off-road enthusiasts would want to pick the right parts themselves anyways. I think the Passport hit the sweet spot between the on and off-roads, and that's why I got one myself. :)
My neighbor has a 2019 Passport Touring with the Traxda 3.5" lift 17" wheels with 265-65-17 Toyo AT3's and it looks badass plus the ride is better due to more side wall which you can air down when off roading which changes the comfort. Those 20's oh no to stiff for offroading or any vehicle even a jeep.
OH, and PS -- Hill decent and a lot of other off-road tech are really just ways to add-back the control and capability we lost when we stopped driving manual cars.... with that in mind, depending on how the automatic is programmed, you should be able to simply downshift to and hold it in a low gear to get a lot of the same effect. Sure, you'll still need your brake leg, but it should make a noticeable difference in the feel of control going down hill.
Love your videos! I am in month 4 of a lease on a 2020 4Runner Venture with KDSS suspension. It was an impulse buy and I traded my 2016 Rav4 SE with technology pkg in on it. I honestly don't need the capabilities of my 4Runner, nor the poor gas mileage. I live in Ohio and we don't go offroading lol. This looks like a better fit for me! Thanks for the excellent review and test!
Venture is amazing, and the KDSS system is one of the best. However, if you’re not actually using it for what it’s intended it’s kind of a waste. I do agree that I think Passport would fit you better.
@@garnerlibato4887 I am considering getting a Passport as well. Here is my list of concerns: #1) No stick gear shifter #2) Seems to auto up shift even when you're using paddle shifters in Sport mode #3) No Hill Descent mode #4) No LOW mode -- or simulated low mode like X-Mode. #5) The suite of smart driving and safety features are older tech -- not the newer version used on the Odyssey and the Accord. The Adaptive Cruise Control is somewhat jerky and doesn't come to a complete stop. There's no Lane Centering feature, only a mild form of Lane Keeping assist. Honda should have put their newer version from the Odyssey in the Passport.
Love this review. I have been contemplating getting the Passport to replace my ‘04 Jeep Liberty which has been a tank for me, but is on its last leg. With family in the near future I wanted an suv that also has the capabilities to handle what I need. Thank you, honda should give you a commission.
Tony Chau no, I have not had this issue. When I picked up my brand new passport the head lights were adjusted to blind oncoming traffic, I didn’t realize this until later, but after getting high beamed a handful of times and noticing I was illuminating freeway signs from a mile away. I used a screw driver to angle them down. Also, my front roof rail shrouds were gapped pretty badly. I think the roof rails are installed at the dealership and they didn’t do a good job.
@@JonDZ_Adventuring my molding on my pilot are kinda off. It seem like they got bad fit and finish. Actually thinking about replacing my old crv for this in the future.
This was the best video I've seen yet about this Honda Passport. Even though its the ending of 2020. Thank you. Just want to know if Honda plans on redesigning the Passport in 2022?
I have a feeling they won’t last for long they don’t sell and reputation is kinda bad, could be new vehicle in future that mimics it but my gut feeling says passport will be axed sooner then later.
Other than suspension if you want a slightly softer ride on gravel or anywhere really then getting an 18in wheel with more tire between wheel & tread would help soak up some of that roughness. I have the 2020 Passport Elite and in a couple months Ill be buying some 18" wheels & tires. I wanted the 4RUNNER really badly and I still do simply because I love the aftermarket mod community open to the 4RUNNER.. they make them so awesome.. of course the caveat is that you lose practicality. Plus it's more expensive vehicle overall. I bought my 2020 Passport Elite a mo ago for a great deal at 65k mi for $24k.. I couldn't do that with the 4Runner at the trim Id want. The Passport hits most of my boxes. Plus it has some more creature comfort features along with a notably better audio system. While I love the capabilities of the 4Runner I honestly won't be able to take advantage of them anytime soon. So Id have this very capable off road vehicle as my around town daily driver which the passport is happy to do. When I have a photo/video gig the passport has ample storage for my purposes. It will do just fine in the winter in snowfall. The Passport is a very good looking vehicle especially in person. It sits higher than the Highlander & has an aggressive front grill. I look forward to driving it for many years.
I bought the Passport Sport with Roof Rails and All Weather Mats for 34,300 out the door. Got almost 5 grand off sticker. The SUV can be a great value if you spec it out right.
Impressed with AWD drive system and very impressed with the drive train/engine but it comes down to what you can afford. Keep these good reviews incoming. (Ever thought of getting rollers to show off car AWD system? (ie ice conditions))
i-VTM/SH-AWD would stuck on the rollers with a single front wheel with traction as it doesn't send enough torque to a single wheel. Compared to more modern systems like GM Twin Clutch AWD that will send 100% to a single wheel while the other three spin.
Norm T doubt that as i-VTM4 can send up to 70% (SH-AWD can send 90%) of power to the rear and up to 100% of that power to either rear wheel. 70% of all engine power from that V6 to one rear wheel (or front wheel for that matter) will get it off any rollers.
I think TFL had a similar experience with the ridgeline when offroading a while ago. The pilot is nice but Ill stick with my 2006 explorer with a proper 4wd system and a v8.
@@bigpoppa1992 Without a doubt if you are doing this type of offroading often have a dedicated machine for with with a proper locked center and a rear locker which is probably the most important, but I think the idea here is if you do need to go offroad once in a while for camping, trip, etc. this vehicl might be the best of both worlds.
A friendly suggestion -- Test the downshift from 5th to 4th on a steep decline. I sold a 2018 Odyssey after one year as the ZF transmission took what felt like a few seconds to make the downshift...all the while the van would "accelerate" while in neutral during the shift. This is a 9-speed broken into 2 shafts (dog clutch), with extreme lag in 5-4 downshift...dangerous. Maybe ZF fixed it eventually? I know Grand Cherokee and Pilot had major legal claims against the same transmission. I hated it, so make sure to test quirks before singing the praises of a given vehicle. Also, try to get to the oil filter on an Odyssey (probably just as tough on the Passports?). See "All about the ZF 9HP 9 Speed Automatic transmission" on UA-cam 6:25. I enjoy your videos in general, but an starting to notice not mentioning the "bad" either to keep getting sponsored vehicles, or lack of drive time / expertise. For example, the "Car Care Nut" admits Toyota Highlander 8-speed feels weird when downshifting to pass, but I heard no mention of you noticing that either. Hopefully someone as influential as you would list a few know negatives for more brands (you do mention Subaru cvt concerns a lot...maybe because you own one?).
The passport is a very good vehicle, and with the correct off road tires installed it would be more capable of handling most of what was seen in this vid. For those NOT familure with medium duty offloading tires make all the difference with any all wheel or four wheel drive vehicle. For my money I as a hunter and fisherman I would definitely take the pilot and the passport into the deep wilderness. Set up correctly to include a 8000lb winch, recovery rope and touch duty tires on smaller diameter wheels, and snow chains.
Great work man. Review and narration. I am glad a deer or some other wildlife didn't jump out on the graveled road u were driving like Michael Schumacher....lol. I wish the weather conditions were more like March, were both off roading and snow could challenge the vehicle's capabilities. And I am truly scratching my head of the tire/wheel choices that Honda made for the Passport, especially marketing it as an off roader. Great work!!!!
Im watching this video wanting a 4Runner, but cant justify the price vs the old engine and transmission. Instead, I'm disappointed by everything else out there... Get with it Toyota...
Exactly in the freaking same boat. You might consider a used Nissan Xterra pro 4 x in terms of a great deal but similar fuel economy. That’s the only thing comparable in terms of body on frame suv that’s extremely off road capable.
Another channel said to shut off the traction-control(VSA) when climbing. While the 20" wheels\tires might look sporty, I prefer the higher profile tires on the Pilot and Ridgeline. I have a 2019 Ridgeline that rides amazingly good. The Passport ride is too stiff for my liking.
Well I think this review convinced this loooong time Honda fan that the Passport EX-L 4WD is my next vehicle. Let me first say the toughest part of deciding on a new vehicle is willing to part with my ‘05 Element that I purchased new, it is truly the best vehicle I’ve ever owned, but with 200,000 miles approaching I think it’s time to start looking. I first started looking at a Tacoma, but the lack of leg room (front and back) voided that vehicle, then being a Honda fan I voted out the 4Runner even though I prefer the 4Runners looks over the Passport. Living in the PNW where this test was done, I can relate to the occasional off road drive and that was the reason I had BFG All Terrain T/A put on my Element and a set will definitely be put on the Passport, I’ll deal the added road noise for the snow traction, if the Passport had a set on in this video it would’ve easily made that climb. Being an avid snowboarder and mtn biker the storage is perfect, not as good as the Element but good. A couple complaints I’ve always had about the Element was lack of power and the need of more ground clearance, and the Passport has both. From what I have seen on numerous review videos it looks like my only complaint on the PP is the fuel economy, the 280 hp will be real nice driving up Stevens pass and Mt Baker. My wife and I just bought her a new 2020 Acura TLX ASpec a month ago which I believe the PP has the same engine/trans if so I can’t wait to feel the 120 extra hp over my beloved Element. I wished auto manufacturers would offer the same vehicles with FAR LESS options (like the Element 3 knobs and a stereo volume), my wife’s new TLX and this PP has way too much useless junk on the dash, but I guess it’s not enough to keep me from buying one in the next couple weeks/days, but it also makes me wonder how many thousands of dollars could be taken off the price tag and more possible sales.
You should do this on snow if possible. Most buyers of AWD SUV were interested in snow only. They would never take them up the hill with gravel. It would scratch the paint. I inquired about a Passport at local dealer. They would not change the wheel to 18" or paint over all that ugly black exterior.
Seems like it has alot of nice gadgets. My main concern with it is the push button shifter. If they were worried about space they could have put a lever on the column. Me and my wife find that very handy.
I am waiting for the Acura version of passport. I want the arm rest and comfort seats just like the MDX, and chrome 18 inch wheels. I don't like all that black paint. This is as good as the 4-Runner and is better on the road.
I love appreciate your unique commentary! Really you would take passport over a body on frame for off-roading? The 5000lbs towing is impressive.4runner really needs to be updated!
Caleb Jared My big gripe with the 4Runner is still MPG, and a little bit of comfort. If the 5 speed automatic transmission was upgraded to 6 or 7 speed for better highway driving with a newer slightly more efficient engine, the 4Runner would be higher up the list. But as it stands I only go very light off-roading once in a blue moon
Just bought an Elite, love it. Only issue thus far is the owners manual recommendation for snow chains on the 265/45-20 tires. Owners manual states "use SZ435 cable chains". Security Chain Company cable chain finder says that Super Z6 SZ441 is the correct chain size. I have contacted Peerless to verify the SZ441 is correct. Honda customer service and my dealer haven't provided a final resolution. In fact Honda basically passed the buc on to me. That isn't what I would expect from a company which may have incorrect information that could cause damage to the limited clearance suspension components. Has anyone actually installed SCC cable chains on a 2019 Honda Elite with 265/45-20 tires. I'm heading to Colorado this winter plus I live in the mountains of PA and have used cable chains on: Nissan Frontier Honda CRV Ford Explorer Subaru Forester Never a problem on any of them using SCC recommended size.
More than two years after this review...is this still the best 'all around' midsize SUV? Considering something in this class and the passport still seems like one of the best options for someone looking for something that drives well on road, but is still moderately capable off-road.
Might not make since it has a CVT they over heat super fast. Sucks Subaru is going away from there roots awd is still good but CVT really takes the shine away
@@Consolethumbs With stock tires, I may agree, but I think if you got some AT tires -- even on stock wheels -- that with x-mode on, a CVT Subaru might be able to make it. I have a 2016 Forester Limited -- it's a CVT model. But I have to agree with you 100% on the CVT issue. The Subaru AWD tech with X-Mode is EXTREMELY capable but when paired with a CVT, the limiting factor is the CVT, not the AWD tech. It's quite possible a 2011 Subaru Forester without CVT would be able to go up the steeper hill part. I'm thinking of getting this Passport because it -- unlike the CR-V -- doesn't use a CVT. However, there are problems with the Passport as well. It's not perfect. One glaring missing feature, if you really do take it off road, is the Hill Descent Control. Given that Honda didn't include it, it's pretty revealing that Honda did NOT infact intend for their customers to really take the Passport off road. But I'm still considering buying it. Will need to get it lifted and switch to 17" wheels with beefy off road tires. Then it should perform pretty well.
Natural Altas the last hill with the big dip in the middle is a difficult obstacle. The incline isn’t extremely steep, but that diagonal rut will put a vehicle in a two wheel situation. The Passport made it because of two things 1.) a 20.4:1 crawl ratio and 2.) a twin clutch rear differential (it simulates a LSD in normal mode).
Lance Guilin if it makes you feel better, a Toyota Tundra TRD pro does not have hill descent either 😊. The Passport is based off the Honda Pilot and Ridgeline. The funny thing is that the Ridgeline definitely wasn’t designed for off-road, since it only has the Honda 6 speed transmission. The Honda Pilot has the correct transmission for off-roading, but at 7.3 inches of ground clearance and an 18/20 approach/departure angles. It’s not getting anywhere difficult 🤣. The Passport is simply an upper trimmer Honda Pilot that’s 0.8 inches taller and has better approach and departure angles 21/27. There’s away to go into hill descent (low range, the best way to safely descend a hill) but, it will require a more traditional approach.
Paddle shifters why? Because they are great. I used them for downshifting all the time to slow the vehicle with engine braking rather than wearing out the brake pads. My Accord V6 Luxury had them and I never needed to change my brake pads in the entire 4 years I owned the car and I took it off road also (2WD and 5.5” clearance - it’s about choosing your line). That car had VCM also and could run on 3, 4 or 6 cylinders and was economic even though a 3.5ℓ V6 producing 202kW and 339Nm of torque. Amazing car I loved it - never once had a breakdown either. Sold it with over 170,000km on the clock. My Land Rover I replaced it with has Paddle Shifters and I would never buy a car again without them or dual zone climate (which they both have) - you can change gears and never move a hand off the wheel.
Why can't Honda include a "Dirt/Gravel" mode, since that is the type of terrain you usually come across most of the times during off-roading?? Kinda dumb...
Thodoris Saritziotis cause in this passports case dirt/gravel don’t need any special mode thats just normal driving circumstances for this badass hence just keep it in normal
Large wheels don't make any sense on an off-road vehicle. I don't want to have to pay for this and then also pay for proper wheels/tires. At least make them an option!
Most people want these SUV's for winter driving to commute back and forth to work the off road capabilities just happens to be a bonus just like although Jeep Wranglers and Toyota 4runners are made for off roading I couldn't imagine spending $40k-$50k+ on a new vehicle to run it to the ground
How do you compare this to the new RAV4 Adventure or trd? I need that light off road daily use ability of both, but want cargo space for car camping . This will be my daily driver so concerned this car might feel big and bulky compared to the RAV. But, if this has better off-road vs the Rav with Adventure/trd awd system, then I'd trade a mileage loss for off road ability and that great engine. I also seems like this would beat the RAV for longer highway trips. Thanks for any help. Love all your videos.
I’m in your situation, I hear rav4 aren’t best for driving but they are perfect size and great gas id say take test drive for both of you like rav4 enough then it’s worth getting cheaper better gas and Japanese made you will save so much more! But if you want a serious camper vehicle and need space I think passport is more capable and Honda’s probably better to drive then Toyota but I could be wrong… I’m gonna decide between 2 in near future although I’ll still consider grand Cherokee….
@@itsnick37 I actually ended up with a Forester Sport and love it. We'll see about long term reliability, but I really see why folks rave about them. I drive daily light off road, which for some would be serious off roading, and it is great for my work day seeing patients in the wilds of N. GA dirt and washout roads.
Why do you list the HP rating of a powertrain without also including the Torque? It makes no sense. Do you not realize that acceleration comes from Torque and not HP?
Maximum acceleration in a vehical with a transmission occurs at peak horsepower not torque because that is where peak wheel torque occurs. As well as max towing and top speed
Great review I have owned the passport since March and love it. It is an all around great drive in all conditions and terrain. With snow tires in Canadian winters it is unstoppable. And great catch on the autonomous suggestion features, this is not trying to an autonomous vehicle. Loved the video!
We have an Accord we get snow tires for and they’re absolutely amazing (Bridgestone Blizzak). For your Passport, did you go with smaller tires for snow tires (18 or 19”)?
Hey Ryan - do you think that the all-season tires could hold up to a summer of gravel roads and maybe a few rocky trails? Or should one just pony up and get terrain tires?
If you air down your tires where appropriate and the rocks aren’t too rough you should be okay for a season. The biggest concern would really be punctures and getting enough grip if you’re dealing with steep inclines.
Saw this 3 years later whilst considering a used Passport. This is an excellent real world review. One of the best I’ve seen.
About time we had a car reviewer worth a damn. Love the focus on the driving sensation and tech in practice. Keep up the seriously great work!
Honda team if you see this, please add some underbody plate for protection
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i've watched so many passport reviews. This was the best one... Thank you for the video quality, ALL the info, and the test drive. I'm now a subscriber!
Watch Topher’s night time review in the snow. Very good. So is this though!
Your AWD tests are great. Worth subscribing for that alone.
Agree
I'm actually surprised this dude doesn't have more subs
That is why I subscribed. He off roads everything!
As a car enthusiast, I love the quality and content here. Original content. Off roads everything! Happy subscriber here...
Your review sounded like my line of reasoning for going with a passport. Some off road ability, tons of storage, nice ride. The automatic transmission and V6 motor was also a big selling point for us. I'm not a fan of cvt or turbo on small engines. We made sure to get the AWD and added the towing package so we could tow 5000lbs. It checks off a lot of boxes for me and my wife. Which it should considering the price tag.
Just a note, if you want the full 5000 lbs of towing you need to add the transmission cooler, if you don't have it you are limited to 3500 lbs
I honestly don't even remember when and how I stumbled upon your channel but after one video I subscribed!!! Love your absolutely comprehensive review. Interior, features, safety systems, slow mo awd and traction control test, offroad test and on road trip really gives a total picture for us viewers and potential customers. Keep up the great work and stay safe out there!!!
We went with a Passport, partly because of your review. We’re very happy-what a great vehicle! Handles the demand of Wisconsin public land off-roading for hunting easily, is excellent in the snow, has TONS of space, and I’m getting 25-26 mpg (highway) in single digit temperatures. Thanks for the GREAT review!
How was it in the snow?
@@joerotman5214 It was solid - not spectacular. TBF, the standard tires that come on it are definitely not snow tires in any way, shape, or form. Eventually we'll invest in some snow tires. The torque vectoring AWD and traction control do a really good job in slippery conditions. I was able to drive through about 2 feet of snow at our friend's place to unload some wood & home supplies when working on a house project - even with the thin stock tires. I'm going to invest in a performance air filter (most likely K&N) which should boost MPG's. Getting 25-26 highway this spring so far.
did you run premium or regular gas to get that?
I just picked up the Passport Elite, needed for business in Florida, I only have about 200 highway miles on it, I don’t see myself going off road like this video is showing, but as a 61 yr old male, I’ve had just about every 4x4 out there, Acura’s, Jeeps, etc, etc, So far with the minimal road miles I have used the vehicle, I like it so far, I’m not a tech type guy, but this vehicle is loaded with far more bling then I will ever use. Planning on keeping this vehicle for 3 to 4 years. But with the little experience I have with it, I have nothing yet to complain about so far. I was on the lot to buy a Ridgeline, but this vehicle caught my eye, it’s appealing, gotten few compliments already, but I will definitely add to this story in about a month of use in Florida road travel.
Once again, an excellent video. I have to say, I watch a lot of review videos for all kinds of vehicles in every segment. I very much appreciate how thorough you are. Please keep them coming.
Thank you for doing the camera view of the gauges for the 0-60! Much appreciated!
Ryan, I have the 2019 Passport Elite and I am for the most part happy with my purchase. Your video is very well done. The video production is excellent and you cover so many areas of the Passport I am impressed. Thank you for making such a high quality video with great information.
The fact he did this on the stock OEM 20in tires is INCREDIBLE. Hard to find A/T tires in a 20in tire size. Especially, what Honda went with on the EX-L and Elite trims. Which is 265/45/20. Not many choices in that size. HOWEVER, over on the Honda forums many folks have had great success going with a 275/45/20 which gives you a bit more sidewall and you can keep your stock rims. Granted this is for the EX-L and Elite trim models. As the new 2022 Trailsport has 18in wheels. Which just offer a FAR better experience on roads like he was on in this video. The ride alone will be much more pleasant and absorb the bumps better. I think Honda was kinda not thinking when they went with 20in wheels for the other trim models. They should have just stuck with 18's for all the models.
yeah, the 20's alone are enough to put me off on the crap roads here where I live. Not to mention the astronomical extra cost when you get 20's. 18's are far more affordable and give me a better ride. Wish they had options. Buying a car, then having to pay extra to get rid of the bad riding wheel and tire combo. For some its okay, but they didn't even offer a choice.
Im not a fan of big rims too much bumps!
Got a 2017 Ridgeline with a 2 inch lift and bigger at tires.makes a big difference
Really considering one of these after my golf. I had a renegade trailhawk before the Golf and loved the offroad capability just didn't like visiting the dealer every week for service and electrical problems.
Thank you. I’m about to jump into the 2020 Passport after having my Odyssey 2008 for so long. I’m excited to have this now that my 2 older kids have their own vehicles and we just have our 7 yr old for more adventures and road trips! Thanks for the great review- for our needs, this car seems perfect!
Elastic Generation same here. Love my 07 odyssey ( snowboard, mtb, haul ass vehicle) but getting a passport soon 👍
Nice to know I am subscribed to a local PacNW guy seriously impressed with the passport and looking to get one
So glad to know the off-road capability of my 2019 passport by your test, and so confident to drive it out now. Thank you, Ryan
you have come a long way and I still always look back through your catalog
Wow! Blown away by your detailed review of the Honda Passport. Honestly, the Passport wasn't even on my radar screen for my next SUV purchase. Thank you mentioning the Passport in your Subaru Ascent video. So glad I decided to check out this Passport video. Now, I am seriously not considering buying a Toyota 4Runner and buying a Honda Passport instead. Thanks again!
You just confirmed what my GirlFriend was mentioning... I don't need a PickUp, I need a Passport.
Get a ridgeline! And you'll have both
And you need a Pilot and a Plane
So, your girl friend knows about cars more than you do, awesome!!!
Your GF wants you to get the Passport because she is pregnant.
I have a f150 truck and a passport. I'm seriously considering getting rid of the truck for something smaller and more fuel efficient. The AWD passport with towing package (hitch, wiring harness, transmission cooler) can tow 5000lbs. I have a small tractor and when loaded on my single axle trailer it is around 3000lbs. I can't imagine many people really would need more than what the passport can do. If you have a place to store a trailer then it definitely can do anything you would need it to do.
You should turn traction control off in Honda’s on slippery surfaces like dirt sand and mud or you’ll overheat the transmission and AWD. I learned this the hard way in my Ridgeline. With TC off it never overheated again. Honda helps you with this using the Sand mode which reduces the TC the most.
i thought tc just cuts power to the engine to prevent revving and wheel slips , how does if over heat when its cutting power
Ldawson103 in the Passport, you're much LESS likely to overheat any of those things. You're Ridgeline only has the Honda 6speed which has a 14:1 crawl ratio, the passport has the ZF 9 speed transmission that has a 20:1 crawl ratio, that's a substantial difference. Having a more capable crawl ratio means less bogging and more effective use of momentum. Watch my latest video where I ride along a 100 series land cruiser. There is a point where I overheat my AWD system. I find that Sand mode is the main culprit, it increases throttle input sensitivity, it also simulates a lock on the rear differential. During difficult obstacles that requires one of the rear wheels to need more than 70% torque, the rear differential unlocks and acts as a limited slip differential. When one of the rear wheels are in the air during a steep rutted climb and you're foot is down on the gas pedal half way causing 100% throttle because of sand mode sensitivity, you're going to over heat the rear differential. I've done it twice and only in that situation, only in Sand mode going up something really difficult.
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I watch a lot of car review channels, and this one is actually giving me new information rather than spewing out obvious.
Some of the subi fans might get mad but this trumps all of the Subaru’s since they switched to CVT transmissions. Seeing this passport crawl over stuff with little effort makes sense because it actually has a decent crawl ratio 20.1 compared to anything in the class with about a 10.1 . I seen a modified passport with a 3 inch lift and some BFG tires it looked amazing. Great video
CONSOLETHUMBS - watch JonDZ adventuring on UA-cam! ...enough said
CONSOLETHUMBS - hey it’s me! I have Cooper AT3’s though. So, not only does the passport have a 20:1 crawl ratio, but it also has a twin clutch rear differential that can simulate a LSD, or in sand and mud mode simulate a locker.
Yep pretty amazing vehicle, imagine if we could hack the twin discs in the rear and fully lock them........
@@JonDZ_Adventuring Hi Jon. Are you sure you can stay at 1st gear? I have tested the Passport and what I noticed was that it auto shifted upwards by it self even when I was using paddle shifters in Sport mode. How do you keep your Passport in 1st gear to do your 'crawling'? I am seriously considering getting the Passport but there are several issues I have with it.
#1) No stick gear shifter
#2) Seems to auto up shift even when you're using paddle shifters in Sport mode
#3) No Hill Descent mode
#4) No LOW mode -- or simulated low mode like X-Mode.
#5) The suite of smart driving and safety features are older tech -- not the newer version used on the Odyssey and the Accord. The Adaptive Cruise Control is somewhat jerky and doesn't come to a complete stop. There's no Lane Centering feature, only a mild form of Lane Keeping assist. Honda should have put their newer version from the Odyssey in the Passport.
These are just some of the glaring issues that consistently stick out to me. I know you don't think Kia/Hyundia's AWD system is as capable as Honda's i-VTM4 system, but Kia/Hyundaia offers a better suite of driving assist and safety features. The real deal torque vectoring of i-VTM4 is something I do appreciate and probably the only real pro that would make me buy the Passport but I really wish Honda would have added a 50/50 lock button as well. And I really want a LOW mode, or even a simulated LOW mode like the X-Mode in Subarus.
That said, I may still end up with the Passport as there aren't really any other options, unless I go with Jeep or 4Runner.
Subaru barely makes it down the road today let alone off roading.
"...70 percent of new Subaru vehicles are now the object of recalls or service campaigns within two years of being purchased, noting that the “permissible limit” should be around 10 percent."
www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2019/06/report-outlines-how-subaru-is-coping-with-quality-control-issues/
Love the new passport! Thanks for making this video too. Nicely done and been waiting for a video like this on the passport!
Not sure how I found this channel but I'm so glad I did. Very professional content and I love how you actually show the driving modes and off road ability. I bet if you threw on some semi better off road tires it be a tank off road.
Good review Ryan. I really like the Passport except for the 20inch wheels and tires. Just too rough of a ride.
I drove both the Passport and the Ridgeline. I bought the Ridgeline because it rides like a luxury vehicle and is so quiet inside while driving.
If I bought the Passport, I was going to put 18" wheels and higher profile tires on the vehicle.
I need to test drive this car. I absolutely love it. From the reviews on cars dot com the majority love it and say it’s very comfy. Gotta see for myself I guess.
Did you test ride any other trucks like the Jeep GC???
My wife and I felt the opposite. Didn't really like the Ridgeline for her. It has some cool features like the trunk, and in bed stereo that sounds great. We ended up with the AWD passport and added the optional transmission cooler so it can tow 5000lbs.
I have a 2021 PP, and Ive watched tons of reviews. This one has been my favorite by a long shot.
It is true that the Passport doesn't have tire/wheel well suited for the off-road, but it can be easily fixed by the aftermarket products. I would imagine that off-road enthusiasts would want to pick the right parts themselves anyways. I think the Passport hit the sweet spot between the on and off-roads, and that's why I got one myself. :)
Meeeee Tooooo Jazzme :P
Agreed! Love the Passport!
jazzme do you still like the Passport? Any problems?
@@melissa4455 A bit late, but yes, I still like it after 2 1/2 year and almost 40K KM (that's 25K miles I believe)! No problem at all, very reliable.
My neighbor has a 2019 Passport Touring with the Traxda 3.5" lift 17" wheels with 265-65-17 Toyo AT3's and it looks badass plus the ride is better due to more side wall which you can air down when off roading which changes the comfort. Those 20's oh no to stiff for offroading or any vehicle even a jeep.
The paddle shifters are good for when you're driving in the snow. Particularly downhill in the snow.
OH, and PS -- Hill decent and a lot of other off-road tech are really just ways to add-back the control and capability we lost when we stopped driving manual cars.... with that in mind, depending on how the automatic is programmed, you should be able to simply downshift to and hold it in a low gear to get a lot of the same effect. Sure, you'll still need your brake leg, but it should make a noticeable difference in the feel of control going down hill.
It looks like you had fun doing this review. Well thanks for the education Sir. I enjoyed that.
Love your videos! I am in month 4 of a lease on a 2020 4Runner Venture with KDSS suspension. It was an impulse buy and I traded my 2016 Rav4 SE with technology pkg in on it. I honestly don't need the capabilities of my 4Runner, nor the poor gas mileage. I live in Ohio and we don't go offroading lol. This looks like a better fit for me! Thanks for the excellent review and test!
Venture is amazing, and the KDSS system is one of the best. However, if you’re not actually using it for what it’s intended it’s kind of a waste. I do agree that I think Passport would fit you better.
Better yet, go find some trails!
Great video review. I just can't get enough of this channel. Definitely one of the best vehicle review channels. Arguably the best. Thank you Ryan!!
so much better than alex on autos
I completley lost it when you said "It did tell me steering was required"🤣🤣
This is basically a bigger V6 non-CVT Forester, Hope this is a success.
DangerousDan I use drive a 2015 Forester XT, now I have a Passport. The Passport is basically a SUPER Subaru. Everything is turned up several notches.
@@JonDZ_Adventuring I have watched some of your videos! Pretty cool offroading stuff!
iVTM4 is great on the road, driven a Ridgeline before.
@@JonDZ_Adventuring I was thingking about getting a Passport any nit picks and any problems you've encountered so far?
@@garnerlibato4887 I am considering getting a Passport as well. Here is my list of concerns:
#1) No stick gear shifter
#2) Seems to auto up shift even when you're using paddle shifters in Sport mode
#3) No Hill Descent mode
#4) No LOW mode -- or simulated low mode like X-Mode.
#5) The suite of smart driving and safety features are older tech -- not the newer version used on the Odyssey and the Accord. The Adaptive Cruise Control is somewhat jerky and doesn't come to a complete stop. There's no Lane Centering feature, only a mild form of Lane Keeping assist. Honda should have put their newer version from the Odyssey in the Passport.
2019 RDX V6!
this had been post several months and i still watch this video again and again 😂
Love it--modern crossover AWD never fails to overheat when really challenged.
All your suv test drive video are awesome!! I can’t stop watching them!!
13:35 Do NOT switch to normal when doing off road!!! The sand mod optimized the Brake Traction control and the rear drive unit
Love this review. I have been contemplating getting the Passport to replace my ‘04 Jeep Liberty which has been a tank for me, but is on its last leg. With family in the near future I wanted an suv that also has the capabilities to handle what I need. Thank you, honda should give you a commission.
I've got an 05 Liberty and I'm looking at getting a Passport as well :D
Great review. Really impressed with your comprehensive video. Thank you.
Just purchased the 2021 Passport and it is awesome!
I’m about too. How was the price negotiation? Out the door at morph?
Would love to see that AWD drive face off against Subaru in the snow.
G Scott I have videos about that.
@@JonDZ_Adventuring question about the passport do you have any water trapped in the tailgate and when you open it water comes back out?
Tony Chau no, I have not had this issue. When I picked up my brand new passport the head lights were adjusted to blind oncoming traffic, I didn’t realize this until later, but after getting high beamed a handful of times and noticing I was illuminating freeway signs from a mile away. I used a screw driver to angle them down.
Also, my front roof rail shrouds were gapped pretty badly. I think the roof rails are installed at the dealership and they didn’t do a good job.
@@JonDZ_Adventuring my molding on my pilot are kinda off. It seem like they got bad fit and finish. Actually thinking about replacing my old crv for this in the future.
@@tonychau1983 misaligned trim and panel gaps are a Honda/Acura feature these days.
19:56 Sounds like a winner to me, Test Driving one tomorrow.
So how was it?
Just picked up the 2019 elite. Ready for some sand and snow
Paul White LUCKY but send it! 😉
How does it do in snow, do you live in New England by chance?
Excellent content and comments. One of the best online!
This was the best video I've seen yet about this Honda Passport. Even though its the ending of 2020. Thank you. Just want to know if Honda plans on redesigning the Passport in 2022?
I have a feeling they won’t last for long they don’t sell and reputation is kinda bad, could be new vehicle in future that mimics it but my gut feeling says passport will be axed sooner then later.
I was entertained for the whole video. Well done sir!
Ok this would become my next vehicle when it comes time to trade in my current crossover
Other than suspension if you want a slightly softer ride on gravel or anywhere really then getting an 18in wheel with more tire between wheel & tread would help soak up some of that roughness.
I have the 2020 Passport Elite and in a couple months Ill be buying some 18" wheels & tires.
I wanted the 4RUNNER really badly and I still do simply because I love the aftermarket mod community open to the 4RUNNER.. they make them so awesome.. of course the caveat is that you lose practicality. Plus it's more expensive vehicle overall.
I bought my 2020 Passport Elite a mo ago for a great deal at 65k mi for $24k.. I couldn't do that with the 4Runner at the trim Id want.
The Passport hits most of my boxes. Plus it has some more creature comfort features along with a notably better audio system.
While I love the capabilities of the 4Runner I honestly won't be able to take advantage of them anytime soon. So Id have this very capable off road vehicle as my around town daily driver which the passport is happy to do. When I have a photo/video gig the passport has ample storage for my purposes. It will do just fine in the winter in snowfall.
The Passport is a very good looking vehicle especially in person. It sits higher than the Highlander & has an aggressive front grill. I look forward to driving it for many years.
I bought the Passport Sport with Roof Rails and All Weather Mats for 34,300 out the door. Got almost 5 grand off sticker.
The SUV can be a great value if you spec it out right.
Impressed with AWD drive system and very impressed with the drive train/engine but it comes down to what you can afford. Keep these good reviews incoming. (Ever thought of getting rollers to show off car AWD system? (ie ice conditions))
i-VTM/SH-AWD would stuck on the rollers with a single front wheel with traction as it doesn't send enough torque to a single wheel. Compared to more modern systems like GM Twin Clutch AWD that will send 100% to a single wheel while the other three spin.
Norm T doubt that as i-VTM4 can send up to 70% (SH-AWD can send 90%) of power to the rear and up to 100% of that power to either rear wheel. 70% of all engine power from that V6 to one rear wheel (or front wheel for that matter) will get it off any rollers.
The 4wd overheated quick. You really should of had it in one of its offroad modes not normal.
Keep in mind we had just been driving briskly through the forest giving the all wheel drive a workout right before starting to climb.
@@drivingsports Makes me wonder how hard it is to change out those clutches as they wear if you are seeing the warning often....
I think TFL had a similar experience with the ridgeline when offroading a while ago. The pilot is nice but Ill stick with my 2006 explorer with a proper 4wd system and a v8.
@@bigpoppa1992 Without a doubt if you are doing this type of offroading often have a dedicated machine for with with a proper locked center and a rear locker which is probably the most important, but I think the idea here is if you do need to go offroad once in a while for camping, trip, etc. this vehicl might be the best of both worlds.
You should up had considered the previous driving distance and time.
Which one do you prefer: The new Outback or the Passport?
passport
I bought brand new passport today! It’s so awesome1
A friendly suggestion -- Test the downshift from 5th to 4th on a steep decline. I sold a 2018 Odyssey after one year as the ZF transmission took what felt like a few seconds to make the downshift...all the while the van would "accelerate" while in neutral during the shift. This is a 9-speed broken into 2 shafts (dog clutch), with extreme lag in 5-4 downshift...dangerous. Maybe ZF fixed it eventually? I know Grand Cherokee and Pilot had major legal claims against the same transmission. I hated it, so make sure to test quirks before singing the praises of a given vehicle. Also, try to get to the oil filter on an Odyssey (probably just as tough on the Passports?). See "All about the ZF 9HP 9 Speed Automatic transmission" on UA-cam 6:25. I enjoy your videos in general, but an starting to notice not mentioning the "bad" either to keep getting sponsored vehicles, or lack of drive time / expertise. For example, the "Car Care Nut" admits Toyota Highlander 8-speed feels weird when downshifting to pass, but I heard no mention of you noticing that either. Hopefully someone as influential as you would list a few know negatives for more brands (you do mention Subaru cvt concerns a lot...maybe because you own one?).
you should have used sand or mud mode to get up that crosscut hill.
We tried sand (not shown) it didn’t work well with the stock tires on that surface. Far worse results.
I’ve driven the passport and I love it!!
The passport is a very good vehicle, and with the correct off road tires installed it would be more capable of handling most of what was seen in this vid.
For those NOT familure with medium duty offloading tires make all the difference with any all wheel or four wheel drive vehicle. For my money I as a hunter and fisherman I would definitely take the pilot and the passport into the deep wilderness. Set up correctly to include a 8000lb winch, recovery rope and touch duty tires on smaller diameter wheels, and snow chains.
The angle at 11:30 makes it look like you’re flying up that mountain at warp 10
Great work man. Review and narration. I am glad a deer or some other wildlife didn't jump out on the graveled road u were driving like Michael Schumacher....lol. I wish the weather conditions were more like March, were both off roading and snow could challenge the vehicle's capabilities. And I am truly scratching my head of the tire/wheel choices that Honda made for the Passport, especially marketing it as an off roader. Great work!!!!
The camera makes it look faster than it is. 😎
I know man. I was only kidding sarcastically!!!! (Going from rock crawling to formula1...lol).
Im watching this video wanting a 4Runner, but cant justify the price vs the old engine and transmission. Instead, I'm disappointed by everything else out there...
Get with it Toyota...
Exactly in the freaking same boat. You might consider a used Nissan Xterra pro 4 x in terms of a great deal but similar fuel economy. That’s the only thing comparable in terms of body on frame suv that’s extremely off road capable.
I just purchased mine I got a good deal and I love it
how much off MSRP?
What’s a good deal help us out.
CRV is horrible at traction in snow. In Montana I have seen CRV stuck in snow on level ground.
I’m just glad a deer didn’t jump out while you were going 80 on that dirt road lol
Deer jump out on the interstate and highways every single day.
Another channel said to shut off the traction-control(VSA) when climbing. While the 20" wheels\tires might look sporty, I prefer the higher profile tires on the Pilot and Ridgeline. I have a 2019 Ridgeline that rides amazingly good. The Passport ride is too stiff for my liking.
Wait a minute. How does this have more volume with the seats folded than the longer Pilot?! Something is not right about the measurements here.
It doesn’t have the space taken up by the 3rd row seats.
Great analysis and real time testing!!! Keep posting!!!
I’d be interested in seeing you put the Ridgeline through the same kind of tests.
Well I think this review convinced this loooong time Honda fan that the Passport EX-L 4WD is my next vehicle. Let me first say the toughest part of deciding on a new vehicle is willing to part with my ‘05 Element that I purchased new, it is truly the best vehicle I’ve ever owned, but with 200,000 miles approaching I think it’s time to start looking.
I first started looking at a Tacoma, but the lack of leg room (front and back) voided that vehicle, then being a Honda fan I voted out the 4Runner even though I prefer the 4Runners looks over the Passport. Living in the PNW where this test was done, I can relate to the occasional off road drive and that was the reason I had BFG All Terrain T/A put on my Element and a set will definitely be put on the Passport, I’ll deal the added road noise for the snow traction, if the Passport had a set on in this video it would’ve easily made that climb.
Being an avid snowboarder and mtn biker the storage is perfect, not as good as the Element but good. A couple complaints I’ve always had about the Element was lack of power and the need of more ground clearance, and the Passport has both. From what I have seen on numerous review videos it looks like my only complaint on the PP is the fuel economy, the 280 hp will be real nice driving up Stevens pass and Mt Baker. My wife and I just bought her a new 2020 Acura TLX ASpec a month ago which I believe the PP has the same engine/trans if so I can’t wait to feel the 120 extra hp over my beloved Element.
I wished auto manufacturers would offer the same vehicles with FAR LESS options (like the Element 3 knobs and a stereo volume), my wife’s new TLX and this PP has way too much useless junk on the dash, but I guess it’s not enough to keep me from buying one in the next couple weeks/days, but it also makes me wonder how many thousands of dollars could be taken off the price tag and more possible sales.
You should do this on snow if possible. Most buyers of AWD SUV were interested in snow only. They would never take them up the hill with gravel. It would scratch the paint. I inquired about a Passport at local dealer. They would not change the wheel to 18" or paint over all that ugly black exterior.
Ok final video before buying this car. Your recommendation would be the final selling point! 👍
Kartik K
Have you thought about the 2019 RAV4 Adventure?
I'm sold!! I'm picking up the Touring Edition.
@@justsomepleb.8360 this has more space power and better awd
Jhune Balmania
Best of luck then! Enjoy
Tony Chau
More space yes, but the 2019 RAV4 has dynamic torque vectoring awd and .5” more ground clearance.
Seems like it has alot of nice gadgets. My main concern with it is the push button shifter. If they were worried about space they could have put a lever on the column. Me and my wife find that very handy.
My wife & I were skeptical of the button shifting at first too. A few months in and I’m actually beginning to like it…
I am waiting for the Acura version of passport. I want the arm rest and comfort seats just like the MDX, and chrome 18 inch wheels. I don't like all that black paint. This is as good as the 4-Runner and is better on the road.
I love appreciate your unique commentary!
Really you would take passport over a body on frame for off-roading? The 5000lbs towing is impressive.4runner really needs to be updated!
Caleb Jared My big gripe with the 4Runner is still MPG, and a little bit of comfort. If the 5 speed automatic transmission was upgraded to 6 or 7 speed for better highway driving with a newer slightly more efficient engine, the 4Runner would be higher up the list. But as it stands I only go very light off-roading once in a blue moon
great review !! thanks for explaining in such details !!
Thank you for the amazing awd explanation. Deciding between crv and this. Thanks
Could you have used your "Paddle Shifters" to put in manual mode and paddle shift to "1" for hill decent or up-hill-climb?
That stiff spring weight will be good after you load that thing down for camping!!
Just bought an Elite, love it. Only issue thus far is the owners manual recommendation for snow chains on the 265/45-20 tires. Owners manual states "use SZ435 cable chains". Security Chain Company cable chain finder says that Super Z6 SZ441 is the correct chain size. I have contacted Peerless to verify the SZ441 is correct. Honda customer service and my dealer haven't provided a final resolution. In fact Honda basically passed the buc on to me. That isn't what I would expect from a company which may have incorrect information that could cause damage to the limited clearance suspension components. Has anyone actually installed SCC cable chains on a 2019 Honda Elite with 265/45-20 tires. I'm heading to Colorado this winter plus I live in the mountains of PA and have used cable chains on:
Nissan Frontier
Honda CRV
Ford Explorer
Subaru Forester
Never a problem on any of them using SCC recommended size.
Need the proper tires and size. As far as the hill descend control, I would use lower gears.
More than two years after this review...is this still the best 'all around' midsize SUV? Considering something in this class and the passport still seems like one of the best options for someone looking for something that drives well on road, but is still moderately capable off-road.
I feel like this is a great vehicle for someone with a family and likes to go on trails and adventures
what do you think about taking Subaru ascent going up there, bro?
Would like to see that.
Might not make since it has a CVT they over heat super fast. Sucks Subaru is going away from there roots awd is still good but CVT really takes the shine away
@@Consolethumbs With stock tires, I may agree, but I think if you got some AT tires -- even on stock wheels -- that with x-mode on, a CVT Subaru might be able to make it. I have a 2016 Forester Limited -- it's a CVT model.
But I have to agree with you 100% on the CVT issue. The Subaru AWD tech with X-Mode is EXTREMELY capable but when paired with a CVT, the limiting factor is the CVT, not the AWD tech. It's quite possible a 2011 Subaru Forester without CVT would be able to go up the steeper hill part. I'm thinking of getting this Passport because it -- unlike the CR-V -- doesn't use a CVT. However, there are problems with the Passport as well. It's not perfect. One glaring missing feature, if you really do take it off road, is the Hill Descent Control. Given that Honda didn't include it, it's pretty revealing that Honda did NOT infact intend for their customers to really take the Passport off road. But I'm still considering buying it. Will need to get it lifted and switch to 17" wheels with beefy off road tires. Then it should perform pretty well.
Natural Altas the last hill with the big dip in the middle is a difficult obstacle. The incline isn’t extremely steep, but that diagonal rut will put a vehicle in a two wheel situation. The Passport made it because of two things 1.) a 20.4:1 crawl ratio and 2.) a twin clutch rear differential (it simulates a LSD in normal mode).
Lance Guilin if it makes you feel better, a Toyota Tundra TRD pro does not have hill descent either 😊. The Passport is based off the Honda Pilot and Ridgeline. The funny thing is that the Ridgeline definitely wasn’t designed for off-road, since it only has the Honda 6 speed transmission. The Honda Pilot has the correct transmission for off-roading, but at 7.3 inches of ground clearance and an 18/20 approach/departure angles. It’s not getting anywhere difficult 🤣. The Passport is simply an upper trimmer Honda Pilot that’s 0.8 inches taller and has better approach and departure angles 21/27. There’s away to go into hill descent (low range, the best way to safely descend a hill) but, it will require a more traditional approach.
Paddle shifters why? Because they are great. I used them for downshifting all the time to slow the vehicle with engine braking rather than wearing out the brake pads. My Accord V6 Luxury had them and I never needed to change my brake pads in the entire 4 years I owned the car and I took it off road also (2WD and 5.5” clearance - it’s about choosing your line). That car had VCM also and could run on 3, 4 or 6 cylinders and was economic even though a 3.5ℓ V6 producing 202kW and 339Nm of torque. Amazing car I loved it - never once had a breakdown either. Sold it with over 170,000km on the clock. My Land Rover I replaced it with has Paddle Shifters and I would never buy a car again without them or dual zone climate (which they both have) - you can change gears and never move a hand off the wheel.
might be useful to use the transmission to slow descent rate on hills/slopes?
How does the passport compare to a new forester on and off road? Thanks for the great vids!
I was going to wait for the Outback Wilderness, but this seems like a better option to start off my overland adventure. Right?
I would go for a grand Cherokee trailhawk for an overland...
Am I the only one watching car reviews with intention of buying any of them? I just like watching car reviews.
Why can't Honda include a "Dirt/Gravel" mode, since that is the type of terrain you usually come across most of the times during off-roading?? Kinda dumb...
Thodoris Saritziotis cause in this passports case dirt/gravel don’t need any special mode thats just normal driving circumstances for this badass hence just keep it in normal
Normal is not the right mode for this it would have bit right in with sand mode. Seen other owners switch to sand and have no issues.
Not a big import fan but diggin' Honda and Acura lately ...
They aren't imports anymore they're made in Alabama all Honda Passport, Pilot and Ridgeline are all made in the states.
Why not use sand mode on that slope?? Normal mode is not the best in thoses situations
@Driving Sports TV. What are your thoughts about the ZF9 in the Passport? I've heard good and bad things.
Large wheels don't make any sense on an off-road vehicle. I don't want to have to pay for this and then also pay for proper wheels/tires. At least make them an option!
Exactly!! It's the only issue I don't like about the Passport.
Most people want these SUV's for winter driving to commute back and forth to work the off road capabilities just happens to be a bonus just like although Jeep Wranglers and Toyota 4runners are made for off roading I couldn't imagine spending $40k-$50k+ on a new vehicle to run it to the ground
How do you compare this to the new RAV4 Adventure or trd? I need that light off road daily use ability of both, but want cargo space for car camping . This will be my daily driver so concerned this car might feel big and bulky compared to the RAV. But, if this has better off-road vs the Rav with Adventure/trd awd system, then I'd trade a mileage loss for off road ability and that great engine. I also seems like this would beat the RAV for longer highway trips. Thanks for any help. Love all your videos.
I’m in your situation, I hear rav4 aren’t best for driving but they are perfect size and great gas id say take test drive for both of you like rav4 enough then it’s worth getting cheaper better gas and Japanese made you will save so much more! But if you want a serious camper vehicle and need space I think passport is more capable and Honda’s probably better to drive then Toyota but I could be wrong… I’m gonna decide between 2 in near future although I’ll still consider grand Cherokee….
@@itsnick37 I actually ended up with a Forester Sport and love it. We'll see about long term reliability, but I really see why folks rave about them. I drive daily light off road, which for some would be serious off roading, and it is great for my work day seeing patients in the wilds of N. GA dirt and washout roads.
Why do you list the HP rating of a powertrain without also including the Torque? It makes no sense. Do you not realize that acceleration comes from Torque and not HP?
Maximum acceleration in a vehical with a transmission occurs at peak horsepower not torque because that is where peak wheel torque occurs. As well as max towing and top speed
@@imjashingyou3461 You can't have one without the other.
Great review
I have owned the passport since March and love it. It is an all around great drive in all conditions and terrain.
With snow tires in Canadian winters it is unstoppable.
And great catch on the autonomous suggestion features, this is not trying to an autonomous vehicle.
Loved the video!
We have an Accord we get snow tires for and they’re absolutely amazing (Bridgestone Blizzak).
For your Passport, did you go with smaller tires for snow tires (18 or 19”)?
Hey Ryan - do you think that the all-season tires could hold up to a summer of gravel roads and maybe a few rocky trails? Or should one just pony up and get terrain tires?
If you air down your tires where appropriate and the rocks aren’t too rough you should be okay for a season. The biggest concern would really be punctures and getting enough grip if you’re dealing with steep inclines.
@@drivingsports -Thanks much! Appreciate the response and all of your work Ryan!