They should split the balon to defensive half for keepers and defenders and one for midfielders and attackers otherwise its always whoever scores more goals
It may be harsh to Haaland but Messi winning the world cup, being named best player, and standing triumphant after one of the greatest games of football played in the modern era on the biggest stage possible puts him above the guy that didn't qualify in Haaland. That's just the reality of the world cup, it exists above all other football.
@@fifty-five6929 I never said it was fair, it's just the reality. He also spent the whole year getting to play with arguably thebest group of playmakers and distributors of the ball since peak Barcelona. No other forward recieved that level of luxury.
@@todd1928and when Messi was on that peak Barcelona side... He was winning the award.... Like I think Messi is the goat but to put the world cup above a Treble (A premier league treble as well which is the hardest) as well as Haaland breaking the goal scoring record in the PL (both for the modern format and even considering the old format of 42 games, Haaland scored more goals in 4 less games.).
@@j.f3448 The world cup is 100% more valuable then the treble. Especially since City were the best team in England for the last 5 years even before Haaland got there. Haaland wasn't even the best player on his team when they won the champions league.
@@todd1928 The World Cup doesn’t sum up a whole season of football, which is what the Ballon D or should be based on. You want to give Emiliano Martinez Best Goalie since he won the WC and was arguably more important than Messi in the tournament, but had a absolutely shit season with Villa? We can’t give the award solely off of 7 games.
@@soulsleep31 come on man. Name something besides scoring 30+ league goals, leading his team to the treble and being one of if not the most influential transfers ever that rashford couldn't do. Rashford >>>> braut farland
Why is nobody talking about Haalands contributions to Norway. Wasn’t able to qualify for the World Cup. And now they are set to miss out on the Euros aswell. For a nation that have two of the best Premier League players (Haaland and Odegaad) and a squad almost double in value compared to Scotland that is embarrassing.
@@dave-ld8mo Sure buddy. Ødegaard and Haaland should carry the entire squad on their back. Surely ironic your take? Norways team has arguably been poor for decades, and while it slowly improving any knowledgable football fan knows that 1-2 star players instantly improving a national team is very rare.
Rarely agree with Buvey, but yeah Rodri had an underrated season. Let's not forget people spent half the season arguing between Cas and Partey for beat DM in the world. Rodri stepped up and was like hold my beer. Was as pivotal as Haaland imo in that treble.
If Rodri wins it over Messi i have no problem with that, Rodri is an extraordinary footballer with the ball i can't say the same for Haaland, he isn't special he doesn't do staff that amazes you, for the goals he scored he has a ridiculously mediocre first touch and ball control.
Let's face it, the Ballon do'r has always been about who played best in the big games where everyone was watching. It's about who dominates games, it's about who passes the eye test. It's not about who scores the most or you'd just give it to the golden boot every year. I love Haaland, but he is a poacher. He averages around 20 touches a game. He's not the kind of player who can take the game by the scruff of the neck and win it by himself. He is always going to find it hard to win the Ballon Do'r.
I 100% agree with this, there is a trophy for the top goal scorer for a reason and there is a trophy for the best player for a reason. Mbappe got the golden boot in the World Cup but ultimately messi got the golden ball for reasons far beyond just being the goal scorer. I love haaland and he has had an amazing year but if you watch football, you just simply can not say he deserves to be named the best player for the year, I’d even agree that Rodri and kdb have been better than haaland
The ballon d’or is a stupid award anyway. There’s no good way to determine who’s better between a striker or a defender. They should split the award into best forward, best midfielder, etc.
Yeah, it should be Messi or Rodri. Unfortunately these 'journalists' will vote for more attacking players like Mbappe, Haaland, KDB, Vinicius over Rodri.
May be for some people World Cup is just a 7 game tournament but people forget how much it matters merely by the fact that it comes once in 4 years...... Group stage game of Argentina Vs Mexico probably more hyped game than UCL Final
Why is nobody talking about Haalands contributions to Norway. Wasn’t able to qualify for the World Cup. And now they are set to miss out on the Euros aswell. For a nation that have two of the best Premier League players (Haaland and Odegaad) and a squad almost double in value compared to Scotland that is embarrassing.
Same can be argued for every other player and their contribution over the season. Look at it this way, Rodri averages more touches per game than any other City player. He sets the tempo and controls the play for the best team in the world. If Rodri isn’t on point then the whole idea of what City want to do cannot happen. He’s incredible at winning duels and regaining possession as well as being arguably one of the best players in possession. He is also always available to play 90 minutes every game. Plus the scorer of the winning goal in the CL final. It depends how you view football but for comparison Haaland averaged 17 touches in a home game vs Fulham the other week and scored a hattrick. An incredibly efficient rate of goalscoring but in a 90 minute game who had more effective influence? Rodri - without his control City could never allow their striker to have such little impact on play whilst have 75%+ possession
Why is nobody talking about Haalands contributions to Norway. Wasn’t able to qualify for the World Cup. And now they are set to miss out on the Euros aswell. For a nation that have two of the best Premier League players (Haaland and Odegaad) and a squad almost double in value compared to Scotland that is embarrassing.
I absolutely agree with buvey except id have rodri first, he is simply world class, clutch in big moments, crazy consistent in passing ability/positioning. He is the most intelligent player in world football currently
I can’t stand city but I have so much respect for Rodri. I really feel like he’s the best DM in the world and he gets into any starting 11. As far as the award goes, I think it just needs to go to Haaland. The amount of goals he scored was just ridiculous
Vini and rodri both play champions league.. but they don't compete in the euros together... so by that stat alone, rodri lost to vini.. and they talk about rodri having character... this man is a ghost on the field, when he's off, spain score.. never seen him do a fucking akka 6000 between someones legs with 200mph...
Bro I have at least 5 players over Haaland in 2023 1. Rodri 2. Messi 🐐 3. Kane 4. Mbappe 5. Salah I've never seen a striker get a 0.00 xG like Haaland did against Arsenal Like cmon
Messi is nowhere near top 2. And if he wasn't Messi no one would hype him this much. All his awards and stats at the most overrated competition in football are corrupted and not earn. And before you cry about rigged. All his goals are pens that he didnt even earn. Mbappe carried PSG as usual and far out performed at the WC, a competition of shit teams. Haaland smoked the best league in the world and broke history, and won the treble including the UCL.
Why is nobody talking about Haalands contributions to Norway. Wasn’t able to qualify for the World Cup. And now they are set to miss out on the Euros aswell. For a nation that have two of the best Premier League players (Haaland and Odegaad) and a squad almost double in value compared to Scotland that is embarrassing.
Why is nobody talking about Haalands contributions to Norway. Wasn’t able to qualify for the World Cup. And now they are set to miss out on the Euros aswell. For a nation that have two of the best Premier League players (Haaland and Odegaad) and a squad almost double in value compared to Scotland that is embarrassing.
Ollie & come were neck & neck by g& a nos, ollie doesn't take pens, both score in final fouls if euro. One is 25 the other isn't here at all because...
Thon dark haired boy chats some bollocks watched another vid of him claiming he could score 10 premier league goals ffs. 1.Haaland 2.Rodri then Messi and only cause he won world cup cause id happily make it a City 3
@@fifty-five6929 no that’s not what I said. The question was “should Rodri win Balon Dor” my answer was “fuck no”. It’s not difficult to understand lol
They should split the balon to defensive half for keepers and defenders and one for midfielders and attackers otherwise its always whoever scores more goals
No it isn't. It's not speed to be about goals, that's why journalists vote & it's not an award based on nos, but opinions
Rodri would be my number 1 he's a phenomenal player
I agree rodri for ballon d’or. He is just Class
It may be harsh to Haaland but Messi winning the world cup, being named best player, and standing triumphant after one of the greatest games of football played in the modern era on the biggest stage possible puts him above the guy that didn't qualify in Haaland. That's just the reality of the world cup, it exists above all other football.
Haaland plays for Norway tf is he meant to do
@@fifty-five6929 I never said it was fair, it's just the reality. He also spent the whole year getting to play with arguably thebest group of playmakers and distributors of the ball since peak Barcelona. No other forward recieved that level of luxury.
@@todd1928and when Messi was on that peak Barcelona side... He was winning the award....
Like I think Messi is the goat but to put the world cup above a Treble (A premier league treble as well which is the hardest) as well as Haaland breaking the goal scoring record in the PL (both for the modern format and even considering the old format of 42 games, Haaland scored more goals in 4 less games.).
@@j.f3448 The world cup is 100% more valuable then the treble. Especially since City were the best team in England for the last 5 years even before Haaland got there. Haaland wasn't even the best player on his team when they won the champions league.
@@todd1928 The World Cup doesn’t sum up a whole season of football, which is what the Ballon D or should be based on. You want to give Emiliano Martinez Best Goalie since he won the WC and was arguably more important than Messi in the tournament, but had a absolutely shit season with Villa? We can’t give the award solely off of 7 games.
Let’s be honest, we all know who deserves this award: it’s Erling Braut Haaland 🇳🇴
I don't know man, rashford had a really good 2 months at the start of the year.
@@michaelboiteau9890RASHFORD???!!!????!!!??
@@soulsleep31 come on man. Name something besides scoring 30+ league goals, leading his team to the treble and being one of if not the most influential transfers ever that rashford couldn't do.
Rashford >>>> braut farland
Why is nobody talking about Haalands contributions to Norway. Wasn’t able to qualify for the World Cup. And now they are set to miss out on the Euros aswell. For a nation that have two of the best Premier League players (Haaland and Odegaad) and a squad almost double in value compared to Scotland that is embarrassing.
@@dave-ld8mo Sure buddy. Ødegaard and Haaland should carry the entire squad on their back. Surely ironic your take? Norways team has arguably been poor for decades, and while it slowly improving any knowledgable football fan knows that 1-2 star players instantly improving a national team is very rare.
Rarely agree with Buvey, but yeah Rodri had an underrated season. Let's not forget people spent half the season arguing between Cas and Partey for beat DM in the world. Rodri stepped up and was like hold my beer. Was as pivotal as Haaland imo in that treble.
Cas? is he your bum chum or something?
If Rodri wins it over Messi i have no problem with that, Rodri is an extraordinary footballer with the ball i can't say the same for Haaland, he isn't special he doesn't do staff that amazes you, for the goals he scored he has a ridiculously mediocre first touch and ball control.
He’s gone and won it the year after 🤣what a player
Let's face it, the Ballon do'r has always been about who played best in the big games where everyone was watching. It's about who dominates games, it's about who passes the eye test. It's not about who scores the most or you'd just give it to the golden boot every year.
I love Haaland, but he is a poacher. He averages around 20 touches a game. He's not the kind of player who can take the game by the scruff of the neck and win it by himself. He is always going to find it hard to win the Ballon Do'r.
I 100% agree with this, there is a trophy for the top goal scorer for a reason and there is a trophy for the best player for a reason. Mbappe got the golden boot in the World Cup but ultimately messi got the golden ball for reasons far beyond just being the goal scorer. I love haaland and he has had an amazing year but if you watch football, you just simply can not say he deserves to be named the best player for the year, I’d even agree that Rodri and kdb have been better than haaland
He’s not going to find it hard to win the ballon d’or, the people who score a lot of goals do better in these rankings.
The ballon d’or is a stupid award anyway. There’s no good way to determine who’s better between a striker or a defender. They should split the award into best forward, best midfielder, etc.
He did it Rodriiii
Yeah, it should be Messi or Rodri. Unfortunately these 'journalists' will vote for more attacking players like Mbappe, Haaland, KDB, Vinicius over Rodri.
May be for some people World Cup is just a 7 game tournament but people forget how much it matters merely by the fact that it comes once in 4 years......
Group stage game of Argentina Vs Mexico probably more hyped game than UCL Final
I'm a UTD fan and Buvey has never made more sense. Rodri is unbelievable.
Why is nobody talking about Haalands contributions to Norway. Wasn’t able to qualify for the World Cup. And now they are set to miss out on the Euros aswell. For a nation that have two of the best Premier League players (Haaland and Odegaad) and a squad almost double in value compared to Scotland that is embarrassing.
Oh, this is last year, Rodriguez didn't deserve it last year, he did this year, & now win it
Nah Haaland deserves it. Without him
The treble would not have been possible. He scored 53 goals.
Same can be argued for every other player and their contribution over the season.
Look at it this way, Rodri averages more touches per game than any other City player. He sets the tempo and controls the play for the best team in the world. If Rodri isn’t on point then the whole idea of what City want to do cannot happen.
He’s incredible at winning duels and regaining possession as well as being arguably one of the best players in possession. He is also always available to play 90 minutes every game.
Plus the scorer of the winning goal in the CL final.
It depends how you view football but for comparison Haaland averaged 17 touches in a home game vs Fulham the other week and scored a hattrick. An incredibly efficient rate of goalscoring but in a 90 minute game who had more effective influence? Rodri - without his control City could never allow their striker to have such little impact on play whilst have 75%+ possession
Why is nobody talking about Haalands contributions to Norway. Wasn’t able to qualify for the World Cup. And now they are set to miss out on the Euros aswell. For a nation that have two of the best Premier League players (Haaland and Odegaad) and a squad almost double in value compared to Scotland that is embarrassing.
City was winning pl without halland and ulc was coming to city sooner or later
i struggle to come when shes on top. I'm not a midfielder though.
I absolutely agree with buvey except id have rodri first, he is simply world class, clutch in big moments, crazy consistent in passing ability/positioning. He is the most intelligent player in world football currently
Id rather have a team full of Rodris than a team of Haalands
I can’t stand city but I have so much respect for Rodri. I really feel like he’s the best DM in the world and he gets into any starting 11. As far as the award goes, I think it just needs to go to Haaland. The amount of goals he scored was just ridiculous
This is the issue, if it's trophies then alvarez has won the treble and a wc. Individually it's gotta be haaland surely
Vini and rodri both play champions league.. but they don't compete in the euros together... so by that stat alone, rodri lost to vini.. and they talk about rodri having character... this man is a ghost on the field, when he's off, spain score.. never seen him do a fucking akka 6000 between someones legs with 200mph...
Gundo is crying at this lack of respect
Martines didn't deserve gk award last year, but wc so okay, this year, get real, he wasn't even top 5 gk in pl
If it was fair, it would go:
1. Haaland
2. Rodri
3. Messi
But since Ballon d'Or is so biased, they'll just give it to Messi anyway...
Totally agree with everything you say I’d even argue KDB 3 Messi 4
No way anyone cares about the ballondor in big 2023
Messi wins it it's World Cup ....... modric won it because of reaching final now it's Messi
Modric also won the la liga and champions league
@@mathewholman927 was not even instrumental by this basis should have given to Ronaldo .... World Cup is the most imp trophy
Messi won the world cup. Messi is getting the Ballon D'or.
These EPL vloggers think football is all about EPL. Messi won the World Cup with Argentina. Do they consider it as a small achievement?
So Alisson and Courtois deserves a ballon d’ors because they were world class players of the year motm in UCL final
It’s a biast award
Bro I have at least 5 players over Haaland in 2023
1. Rodri
2. Messi 🐐
3. Kane
4. Mbappe
5. Salah
I've never seen a striker get a 0.00 xG like Haaland did against Arsenal
Like cmon
I do agree with Buvey rodri has been fuckin unreal, I think Rodri and Messi deserve it over haaland
Messi is nowhere near top 2. And if he wasn't Messi no one would hype him this much. All his awards and stats at the most overrated competition in football are corrupted and not earn. And before you cry about rigged. All his goals are pens that he didnt even earn. Mbappe carried PSG as usual and far out performed at the WC, a competition of shit teams. Haaland smoked the best league in the world and broke history, and won the treble including the UCL.
Tap ins
Why is nobody talking about Haalands contributions to Norway. Wasn’t able to qualify for the World Cup. And now they are set to miss out on the Euros aswell. For a nation that have two of the best Premier League players (Haaland and Odegaad) and a squad almost double in value compared to Scotland that is embarrassing.
The topic doesnt matter to me but i enjoy watching grown ass men in the comments argue like little girls🍿
Haaland has obviously had the best season I don’t think he will win tho
Why is nobody talking about Haalands contributions to Norway. Wasn’t able to qualify for the World Cup. And now they are set to miss out on the Euros aswell. For a nation that have two of the best Premier League players (Haaland and Odegaad) and a squad almost double in value compared to Scotland that is embarrassing.
Who even takes Rory serious anymore? His takes are absolutely the worst. (Don't need to mention the 15 goal on Haaland last season LOL)
Why would anyone listen to these guy, who are they
Ollie & come were neck & neck by g& a nos, ollie doesn't take pens, both score in final fouls if euro. One is 25 the other isn't here at all because...
Rory is so deluded
Maguire
Haaland, Rodri, or KDB are all deserving of the award imo
Thon dark haired boy chats some bollocks watched another vid of him claiming he could score 10 premier league goals ffs. 1.Haaland 2.Rodri then Messi and only cause he won world cup cause id happily make it a City 3
No
Behave😂 rodri gets away with murder hes a fraud
Alvarez
F*ck no lol cmon
What you saying he isn't at least top 3
@@fifty-five6929 no that’s not what I said. The question was “should Rodri win Balon Dor” my answer was “fuck no”. It’s not difficult to understand lol
Rodri 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You can tell buvey only started watching high level football a few years ago
What are you even waffling about
He's on about the fact he said never seen levels like it. Well of course he didn't if he's been watching city his whole life.
I can tell that you started high level football only last year.
@@PerfectSamurai yes Buvey absolutely did
Rodri no way