Yes I know, it's more 'Animal Based' like Paul Saladino advocates. It's just that he still refers to it as carnivore and is know as the carnivore MD and so it is a little confusing but you're right it wasn't pure carnivore, but it was 95% or more carnivore, so please excuse my use of the terminology :)
@@tomgarbett77 Thanks for replying Tom. My halfpenny worth says that, if you are not doing the full Carnivore diet, then you will not be going into ketosis. Therefore you will be missing the main point of the exercise. If you achieve a state of ketosis (fat burning) , you then burn ketones for energy and you will gain masses of extra energy plus also clear thinking. The brain prefers fat to glucose. It takes roughly two weeks to arrive at ketosis. Most likely you have never arrived at that state, as you have been eating fruit and honey. Try again, only this time do a proper Carnivore diet. Best Wishes.
@@hondablack1 I'm pretty sure I was reaching ketosis intermittently as I intermittent fast on a daily basis and was only really having maybe an apple a day, I wasn't going too overboard on the fruit and honey. But yes I do get your point and next time I am definitely going to try it, pure carnivore to see if if I get the full benefits!
My experience shows me that marginal 'cheating' hampers progress, mind you, I am trying to recover from chronic illness. Good luck Tom. 👍@@tomgarbett77
@@tomgarbett77man, went straight to the comments and my suspicion was confirmed, take it from my personal experience: carnivore with any amount of carbs (that includes lactose from dairy ofc) is not carnivore AT ALL. Therapeutic carnivore such as for MS is high fat moderate protein zero carb. See Emily Peyton, she lays this out very plainly.
My husband transitioned through this very painful pooping section by taking a particular magnesium…Magnesium aspartame dihydrate. And then upped his electrolyte intake. Worked like a charm! He’s sold on carnivore.
I’ve been keto but not carnivore for ~3.5 years. A few months ago I added magnesium glycinate because of some minor cramping and started getting more constipated. I switched to the citrate form and did better. I know others who really do well on glycinate, so there might be some bio- individuality involved. I’m interested to try this other magnesium variation.
@@emk-69 product prescribed by the UK NHS: ‘Magnaspartate’ - 243mg powder for oral solution. Magnesium (as magnesium aspartame dihydrate). That’s what’s written on the packet - hope that explains it better for you
"I wasn't desperate to eat anything sweet" next breath "I was still eating fruit and honey" Lol. Hard stool is from not enough fat. You would have eaten more fat if you weren't eating fruit and honey.
Yes I was going for the Paul Saladino approach, and in that I was just meaning I wasn’t having cravings for loads of carbs because I was still having a small amount 😅 but yes I was eating a lot of fat, but clearly not enough! Potentially because I was not having butter due to my autoimmune condition. I think with butter it would be easy to increase fats.
Hard stool is from not enough WATER. Eat water rich fruit and veg and your stools will come out easily and effortlessly the way Nature intended -NO MAGNESIUM SUPPLEMENTS OR ADDED FAT NEEDED.
I’ve been carnivore one full year. I decided to go off for a couple of days after a full year. I had gotten rid of all my stomach issues. Omg. Just from one day of carbs I felt like I was trying to pass a baseball. It was awful. Never going off carnivore again.
Is not because of the carbs why you feel bad. It’s because you have changed your microbiota and now you don’t have the bacteria diversity necessary to handle anything else than meat. Carnivores tend to forget that we have a microbiota and diversity is good. 4 Carnivore here so talking from experience. In my case I only got healthier when taking care of the diversity of my Gut.
@@lurraskea I didn't feel bad at all, as I say in the video I felt great, with high and stable energy levels and reduced appetite etc. But yes I completely get your point and that was my main reservation when starting carnivore was the gut microbiome. But from what I have researched since, it's not necessarily that a carnivore microbiome is worse than a high fibre diet, it is just that it is completely different and so the two are difficult to compare. Hence my earlier point of apples and oranges. In fact the main benefit is that with carnivore you are cutting out all if not most carbs which will deplete the types of microbes that you don't want living in your gut that induce inflammation etc. So I think it's an area that again needs more research, but I have been trusting people like Dr Anthony Chaffee who discusses this at length. What issues were you having when you were on carnivore?
@@tomgarbett77 my reply was to dessertgardengodess’s comment. There is plenty of research Carnivores simply ignore it. (Lots of dogma in Carnivore, Vegetarians or X tribe, I think is the whole social network algorithms fault creating thought bubbles and eco chambers) I have empirical proof of what I am sharing. In my case following advice from Carnivores was making me sick. (Including Dr. Anthony Chaffee, which in my case did not help, which I am not saying it can not help others, I really like Dr. Chaffee, if you follow him and listen to what he proposes you are actually not Carnivore you ate honey). I have blood panels and GI track doctor objective tests that prove that in my case Carnivore was not fixing my health problem. Actually even better I have objective proof and test results that shows what actually has helped. I am not saying Carnivore will not help others. Just be mindful about generalizing and making it sound like is a diet that will help you if you are human, without considering your genetics, context or background and specially your Gut! In some years ignoring the Gut is going to be like thinking the Earth is in the center of the Solar system, you will see. Your perception of how the Gut works just thinking sugar depletion will fix everything is pretty simplistic I think you need to do more research. I had the same view as you, so nothing personal, I have learned I was wrong. Some of these bacteria will actually feed from your gut mucus in the absence of sugar/fiber/carbs so by starving then you will be destroying your gut and there is a lot more to it that I can share in a little comment. But in short if you start Carnivore with a methane dysbiosis (30-50% of people starting Carnivore will have some kind of dysbiosis most likely), Carnivore most likely make it worse, at least that is my experience and what the empirical data and observations I have tell me. (In my case for my body which might be different for others).
@@tomgarbett77 not sure why my previous reply to your comment does not appear :( here it goes again: @tomgarbett77 my reply was to dessertgardengodess’s comment. There is plenty of research Carnivores simply ignore it. (Lots of dogma in Carnivore, Vegetarians or X tribe, I think is the whole social network algorithms fault creating thought bubbles and eco chambers) I have empirical proof of what I am sharing. In my case following advice from Carnivores was making me sick. (Including Dr. Anthony Chaffee, which in my case did not help, which I am not saying it can not help others, I really like Dr. Chaffee, if you follow him and listen to what he proposes you are actually not Carnivore you ate honey). I have blood panels and GI track doctor objective tests that prove that in my case Carnivore was not fixing my health problem. Actually even better I have objective proof and test results that shows what actually has helped. I am not saying Carnivore will not help others. Just be mindful about generalizing and making it sound like is a diet that will help you if you are human, without considering your genetics, context or background and specially your Gut! In some years ignoring the Gut is going to be like thinking the Earth is in the center of the Solar system, you will see. Your perception of how the Gut works just thinking sugar depletion will fix everything is pretty simplistic I think you need to do more research. I had the same view as you, so nothing personal, I have learned I was wrong. Some of these bacteria will actually feed from your gut mucus in the absence of sugar/fiber/carbs so by starving then you will be destroying your gut and there is a lot more to it that I can share in a little comment. But in short if you start Carnivore with a methane dysbiosis (30-50% of people starting Carnivore will have some kind of dysbiosis most likely), Carnivore most likely make it worse, at least that is my experience and what the empirical data and observations I have tell me. (In my case for my body which might be different for others).
I also went through a period of difficult constipation. I just used an old remedy of one teaspoon of epsom salts in a glass of water. I did that about two or three times over about 10 days and then the issues just went away. I’m now regular. It’s been a few months and I can never go back to the carbs after experiencing the miracle of carnivore. I’m 70 and feel 35/40.
I felt similarly about the wahl's protocol; one month in and I was done. No red meat, no pork, no gluten, no dairy, no egg is restrictive but it works for me.
My nutritionist advised high fat and magnesium glycinate 600-900mg for bowel function, if its too much it will cause loose stool, so you just dial it back. We don't realise we are mostly deficient in magnesium and meat isnt that high in magnesium. Although our magnesium requirements may reduce without carbs, but a preexisting deficiency requires high dose supplementation. Although carnivore may be our ancestral diet, we are not living ancestrally. We have lots of physical stress on our bodies from toxins in our water, skincare, medications and health conditions as well as psychological stress which our ancestors didn't have to deal with and they all deplete magnesium rapidly. It's also the case that we drank from natural water sources that were toxin free and mineral rich and now we drink water that is low mineral and toxin rich. Even looking at chlorine in water, this binds the magnesium and makes it unavailable to absorb.
Yes you make a great point here regarding the stresses and toxicities of the modern world that our ancestors didn't have to deal with! I do think though that at least without the plant defense chemicals, absorption of those minerals will be higher. But you are right in that it feels like we are fighting a losing battle a ot of the time, as the western world is unfortunately set up for us to be unhealthy!
My hubby is now 3 weeks in on: meet+fish+mainly dark green veggies+olive oil+few low sugar fruits diet....he's hard core reuma pain is for now complitely GONE...he is a new man and very motivated to continue....he is a builder in his 50s so working hard everyday but has enough power from it...good luck!p.s.for hard stool i would try Molkosan probiotics
Sounds great! Sometimes you need to try it and see the benefits to give you the motivation to try it full time! I’m in the process of trying to convince my mum to try it 😅
Oh wow. So he's doing a modified version of carnivore by adding in the veggies and low sugar fruits. Interesting. If I don't have luck doing the diet, I might try that. I was curious and decided to go short term and see if I could improve a few health issues. We'll see how it goes.
The reason one "doesn't go" as often on Carnivore is certainly because of the lack of fiber - which is a waste product. Good meat is nearly entirely assimilated. Also, the diversity of meat options provides flavor variations if you include wild game - Yak, Elk, Boar, ... Don't eat just ribeye!
Yes I subjectively felt better. Also I can see now on my whoop fitness tracker that I was at my healthiest throughout the month I was on this diet compared to any other this year which is interesting. Then in terms of evidence there is a wide array of personal stories of overcoming all sorts of autoimmune conditions on the carnivore diet. Look into Mikaela and Jordan Peterson's story for example.
Yeah I'm not blaming the diet at all, just sharing my experience so that others can take into account! I still think it s an amazing diet that when I try it strictly in the future will be great for me.
You can take vitamin C as ascorbic acid powder in larger doses, like several grams will sort your stools out PLUS help in any auto immune issues. Also magnesium (research for the right type) helps greatly. I know with carnivore they say you don't need supplements but additional issues can complicate things.
@@tomgarbett77don't add supplements, trust me, be strict for at least 3 months and then see why a you would add. Maybe minerals but surely not things like protein powders or any supplements with fillers etc.
Interesting to read so many proponents of the carnivore diet in the comments. I assume this is due to you talking about this diet in videos before, so other carnivore dieters will find it through the algorithm - although I wonder how many of the commentors have MS as well. Personally, as someone who also has MS, I probably wouldn't embark on a high saturated fat diet, but it will be interesting to follow your journey!
You should have to try the carnivore diet not for a month but a year. A month is way too short of time to see whether the carnivore diet would alleviate any ms neurological symptoms. Its pointless to even bother doing it for a month. As for the hemroids , use water to wipe and than toilet paper and those hemroids will go away fast, DONT JUST USE TOILET PAPER by itself to wipe. Meanwhile drink lots of hot water and hot teas with your carnivore meals. Drink some green matcha teas and continue gyming. If someone follows these principles than I would have the ability to properly judge whether the carnivore diet works for ms. Im strongly considering doing the carnivore diet myself to properly assess whether it will help my ms symptoms. Only thing holding me back is the fact I love my green smoothies so much haha.
Yes completely agree it was not enough time to alleviate any symptoms. I was mainly trying it for a month to see if I experienced any benefits in my general energy levels, strength etc as part of world carnivore month, to see if it would be something I could maintain in the long term. I think in terms of that it was very successful as I do feel I would be able to maintain it if my life situation was more in line with the diet. Thanks as well for the advice, will keep that in mind going forward!
@@tomgarbett77 He only did it as a short experiment to see whether fruit affects his cholesterol which it didn't. He now doesn't regularly eat fruit. It's just that people read the title and don't know the full story.
Ah Tom you were 2 wks ahead of me so i was really hoping to follow your journey alongside mine. I too havd the same diagnosis RLRM variant. I don't like to name it out loud or even call "my" as i feel it encourages me to own it, and i certainly do not want to own this! I prefer to use distancing words in the attempt to discredit it being allowed in my life. "That MS" sounds so much better. I started 4 days on just meats and cheese & cream, and eggs only, but grew concerned about oxalate dumping which caused me to research oxalate foods and which coukd be used to help lower the intake first before stopping and going full carnivore again. So week 2 sees me working through moderate oxalate foods and then next week I'll omit the foods from this week to go to lower oxalated foods until I'm hopefully able to remove and return to full carnivore. So i guess i am clean keto for now. Inflammation is one of the issues i am hoping to change, so management of Oxalates are definitely key for my journey. I noticed you didn't use double cream in your coffee? I am stuffing myself as much as possible, with cheeses butter cream olive oils to help keep the fat content high. I am hoping to follow the suggestions of KenDBerryMD moving into carnivore when ready. Thank-you for sharing your journey 🙏🏼
Listening and yeah. That far into carnivore after initial fat adaptive transition.... Too lean not enough fat can cause constipation and too much fat can cause loose stools. I've been carnivore for 7+ months. I usually go once a day but its not uncommon that one day passes and now bowel movement and sometimes 2 days and nothing but third day i go as normal and nothing strange about it. I heard you ate chicken. Nothing against that but i avoid it because too lean. I eat it still but its maybe every 3 weeks. Personally my go to meal once a day pound and half 80/20 ground beef/2 slices of cheddar/salt, 7-8 eggs (pasture raised) and 2 cups beef bone broth. Supplementing 20,000 IU D3, and 400 mg magnesium glycinate due to flu season. Nothing negative to report
Yeah I do think I needed to increase my fat intake. I have been eating a lot fo 80/20 ground beef with extra tallow and when I've eaten chicken I've been eating all the fatty areas and skin etc. So I'm struggling to see where I can get the extra fat from, but maybe I just need to add more beef fat/ tallow to meals. I do think I struggle because I don't eat dairy, otherwise I could easily top up the fat with butter! But Sounds like you've got a great routine there with your diet!
Somehow I have been on the carnivore diet for decades and have never been constipated and i never experienced hemorrhoids. It has to be the fat because I load up on the fattiest meats possible as I was trying to get a heart attack. Maybe next time you can try a meat based keto as my ex-vegan friend did. No fruit and honey on a real carnivore diet.
Yeah I think definitely next time I will go pure carnivore, rather than the Paul Saladino approach I went for this time. And yes will definitely look to increase my fat consumption too even though I already ate a lot of fat, just need to go even further it seems! It’s also possible the haemorrhoids came from heavy gym workouts as I was never that constipated, more that my stools were harder than usual.
@@tomgarbett77 It's an interesting idea. I am 55 myself and have been carnivore since a teen, Only tried resistance training a few time in my life for a few months but hated it and gave up after months with no visible gains. I hate almost all fruit and will literally vomit if I try and eat honey. Still use the toilet at least once a day and never had hard turds. Takes 5 minutes max to drop and wash. I look forward to your future experiments!
Higher fat content and bin the fruit! Fruit and honey ruins the cognitive benefits of ketosis. Have a tsp of castor oil daily and you will have no issues mate. Has your MS symptoms ever presented as nausea? So far i have the flowing: Tingling in limbs Nausea Head pressure Intermittent blurry vision and blind spot (cant see the word im focusing on when reading) . Brain fog Aching legs Electric shock feeling up my neck and in my head. Chronic fatigue. Heart palpitations Did you experience any/all of these? Thanks for the upload.
Thanks yes I will definitely look to drop the fruit and increase the fat next time I try. My initial symptoms were: Numbness Tingling Electric shock in neck when bending Then I had a relapse that caused the similar loss of vision as you, where I had a blind spot and couldn't focus on the word I was looking at. So pretty similar to yours! Are you full-time carnivore to overcome your MS?
Maybe you could give your body more time to get used to carnivore. I started to reduce carbohydrates some years ago and last year, march, I started to further reduce carbohydrates and also veggies, all in small steps. Right now I eat ketovore and apart from better skin and greatly improved woundhealing, I also have a much easier task in passing the stool. Where I used to have to go every morning with cramps to pass a rather large volume, I now go more irregularly for smaller volumes, but with no cramps or pain. It feels a lot better. My diet includes a lot of fats, because I always choose fatty meat, use butter et cetera.
Yeah that’s exactly what I wanted to keep fruit in my diet initially to ease into it. I do think that to fix it I need to eat more fats to loosen them up. But great to hear that you are feeling the benefits of going carnivore!
Best way would be keto first. More and more protein and fat. Bone braw soup. I am on for 3 years felling 20 years younger. Blue berry is the best for gut.
Georgia Ede’s new book Change Your Diet Change Your Mind, has some of the best transitional diet advice and discussion of all potential sensitivities from both plant and animal foods that I’ve seen. She discusses 3 versions of what she calls quiet paleo, quiet keto, and quiet carnivore. And while this book is directly aimed at how these diets can affect mental function, 90% is useful to anyone looking at implementing these diets.
fruit is really bad for you on carnivore, you don't get the benefits of carnivore and the fruit will also make you constipated (fibre doesn't actually help you poop, fat does) not being able to poop is not enough fat intake - you need about 1g of fat per 1g of protein, so like if you have 2 sirloin steaks then you need 1/4 bar of butter
Thanks yes I definitely need to increase my fat intake. The problem being I don't eat butter because of it's links to my autoimmune condition, so will just top up with tallow.
Thanks for sharing your opinion! Are you full time vegan then? I find the anecdotes of vegans having to turn carnivore for their health really interesting.
Well, live and learn. At least you tried! Don't obsess over it, enjoy your food and life. I eat mostly unprocessed foods, strength train and yoga. No new lesions for 6 years. Take care Tom.
Thanks Karen! Exactly why I decided to stop to be able to enjoy life! That’s great that you’ve kept yours at bay. I think the mostly whole food diet ie removing processed food, is 90% of the difference you can make with any diet!
There is NO fruit and Honey in Carnivore diet, You were not doing Carnivore pure and simple. As for the Bowel movements you likely needed more Meat fat or even Butter. It is so important to understand what the Carnivore diet is compared to "Keto" diet.
Yeah that's not good! I had my blood pressure checked and it came down during the month I was doing carnivore from an already healthy level. Did you purely put it down to the diet or were other factors at play?
Your daily intake should be in the 30% fat content per day. Eating fatty ruminant animals is necessary but many people will supplement the meat with brown butter bites as a tasty fat bomb snack. They will also consume beef and pork bacon to increase their fat intake. Cooking in tallow, lard and butter are all tasty and healthy on the carnivore diet.
If you were eating honey, perhaps it wasn't raw honey. Most honey isn't raw. I got honey advertised to be "raw" from a local butcher, and it turned out to be adulterated. Clearly bad for health as it gave me splitting headaches and strange jaw ache symptoms. My sister has exactly the same symptoms after eating it. Adulterating honey is a huge industry. Statistically far more honey is consumed than is produced by bees.
DlIf you try again definitely change the type of magnesium supplement. The one you are taking doesn’t help with that problem. Also , castor oil to heal your bum!😊
That sucks, 90 days is the best to do. Fibre is a myth. You just were not eating fat. Did you eat butter every day? Did you cook your steak in Tallow? Did you also have electrolytes, the help with this as well. I'd also not recommend doing it with someone else, just do it yourself. The fats are possibly the most important thing. If you enjoy minced beef ask your butcher to make it 40% fat 60% beef, trying eating Scotch Fillet (rib eye) if you can afford it, or what i eat is Rump Cap as it has a lot of fat on it. Ribs are also good, quite fatty. 100% is was your lack of fat. If you get really stuck and wanted instantly relieved from it just eat something with sugar in it and you'll be pooping like water almost instantly :p
Yes I think next time I will give it 90 days for sure! And yeah I have been buying meats from a supermarket so been getting 80/20 mince, so 60/40 would be beneficial! But yes I was cooking in Tallow and also taking electrolytes, so I think it was purely down to not having enough fats in there!
yes it was only short as I wanted to try if I could do it for world carnivore month. I still feel like I definitely benefitted in terms of my energy levels etc.
Hi Tom, I am so relieved to see you are no longer eating the carnivore diet. The research behind it for autoimmune diseases is weak. There are no long term, peer reviewed studies to support it. Our gut healthy is so important to managing our MS and its symptoms. We need fiber (and a lot of diversity of it) for a healthy gut. I highly recommend the book Fiber Fueled by Dr. Will Bulsiewicz.
I have MS for more than 25yrs...i eat BBBE Beef, butter, bacon and eggs....90% of my MS is gone....i feel healthy, i can walk normal again AND without pain
The research behind it for autoimmune is weak, but the huge and growing number of case studies are strong. There are no long term peer reviewed studies on any other diet and I do mean studies, as in RCTs not epidemiology - i.e highly confounded diet surveys, animal or test tube studies. I cured mast cell activation, histamine intolerance, IBS, BMS, chemical sensitivity, subclinical hypothyroid, adrenal dysregulation, chronic fatigue, joint and muscle pain after decades of consuming a supposedly very healthy wholefood diet that was supposedly good for my gut health. Healing began within 2 weeks of starting carnivore and 2 years on I've completely resolved all of those issues. We know so little about gut health to be largely meaningless, the studies on this are in their infancy. And I've recently seen several self reports of MS symptoms in remission and and brain lesions completely disappear on carnivore.
What makes you think that? The science shows that a carnivore diet is great for reducing inflammation because your body can digest and absorb 100% of the food. Hence the reason it can be beneficial for those with autoimmune conditions.
@@tomgarbett77 I think people underestimate the importance of fiber in our diet and specifically that diet and ways of life is the leading cause of diseases. You have a micro biome thriving with different gut bacteria’s the more plant count the more diversity. Animals don’t have fiber only plant does short chain fatty acids which int turn promotes health comes from eating plants not animals.
@@marytorti5147 yes the fibre aspect through me off when I was first looking into the carnivore diet. However studies show that carnivores have a completely different micro biome that still promotes health and you receive the short chain fatty acids direct from the food rather than by the break down of plant fibres. It appears to me that comparing the two is like comparing apples with pears. It seems fibre is beneficial for those on an omnivorous diet that includes carbs, but through the lense of a carnivore diet there is simply no need for that fibre. It’s a really interesting discussion!
@@tomgarbett77 Tom I am trying to disuade you from your choice which is your right. I am not a herbivore or vegan but comparing the two diets is not apples and pears. Plans based diet trumps animal and fat based diet. When you go to the forest there are diversity and life (ecosystem) I hate snakes and many creepy creatures in the forest but believe it or not their importance in the system can not be overlooked because they add color and flavor that exist in the ecosystem. Fiber/plant don’t only improve your micro biome but acts as a sweeper. It helps regulate the moistness of your stool and gives you a nice feel of emptiness when you go no 2. It’s been rightly said all sickness begins in the gut and believe it or not having poop stuck inside of you is like living in a house that are unswept/ no cleaning; it’s dirty, stinky and unpleasant and it’s a breathing place for germ and bacteria. Shifting your micro biome could be a short term gain for a long term suffering. Blocking your arteries and are susceptible to heart disease. Animal diet is no match to plant/fiber. Your micro biome is more diverse than All the billions of galaxies . Hey your body is your most prized possession and should run like a well oiled machine if you give it garbage it will not run the way it should. Check out the side effects of a carnivore diet. Peace out ✌️
Not Carnivore if you have been eating fruit and honey. Sorry.
Yes I know, it's more 'Animal Based' like Paul Saladino advocates. It's just that he still refers to it as carnivore and is know as the carnivore MD and so it is a little confusing but you're right it wasn't pure carnivore, but it was 95% or more carnivore, so please excuse my use of the terminology :)
@@tomgarbett77 Thanks for replying Tom. My halfpenny worth says that, if you are not doing the full Carnivore diet, then you will not be going into ketosis. Therefore you will be missing the main point of the exercise. If you achieve a state of ketosis (fat burning) , you then burn ketones for energy and you will gain masses of extra energy plus also clear thinking. The brain prefers fat to glucose. It takes roughly two weeks to arrive at ketosis. Most likely you have never arrived at that state, as you have been eating fruit and honey. Try again, only this time do a proper Carnivore diet. Best Wishes.
@@hondablack1 I'm pretty sure I was reaching ketosis intermittently as I intermittent fast on a daily basis and was only really having maybe an apple a day, I wasn't going too overboard on the fruit and honey. But yes I do get your point and next time I am definitely going to try it, pure carnivore to see if if I get the full benefits!
My experience shows me that marginal 'cheating' hampers progress, mind you, I am trying to recover from chronic illness. Good luck Tom. 👍@@tomgarbett77
@@tomgarbett77man, went straight to the comments and my suspicion was confirmed, take it from my personal experience: carnivore with any amount of carbs (that includes lactose from dairy ofc) is not carnivore AT ALL.
Therapeutic carnivore such as for MS is high fat moderate protein zero carb. See Emily Peyton, she lays this out very plainly.
My husband transitioned through this very painful pooping section by taking a particular magnesium…Magnesium aspartame dihydrate. And then upped his electrolyte intake. Worked like a charm! He’s sold on carnivore.
Oh wow thanks for this that’s really useful! I have been supplementing with magnesium glycinate so will look into that!
Always good to know the tips and tricks.
I’ve been keto but not carnivore for ~3.5 years. A few months ago I added magnesium glycinate because of some minor cramping and started getting more constipated. I switched to the citrate form and did better. I know others who really do well on glycinate, so there might be some bio- individuality involved. I’m interested to try this other magnesium variation.
Magnesium aspartame? Aspartame isn't a word I expect to see in a nutrient?
@@emk-69 product prescribed by the UK NHS: ‘Magnaspartate’ - 243mg powder for oral solution. Magnesium (as magnesium aspartame dihydrate). That’s what’s written on the packet - hope that explains it better for you
"I wasn't desperate to eat anything sweet" next breath "I was still eating fruit and honey" Lol.
Hard stool is from not enough fat. You would have eaten more fat if you weren't eating fruit and honey.
Yes I was going for the Paul Saladino approach, and in that I was just meaning I wasn’t having cravings for loads of carbs because I was still having a small amount 😅 but yes I was eating a lot of fat, but clearly not enough! Potentially because I was not having butter due to my autoimmune condition. I think with butter it would be easy to increase fats.
Hard stool is from not enough WATER. Eat water rich fruit and veg and your stools will come out easily and effortlessly the way Nature intended -NO MAGNESIUM SUPPLEMENTS OR ADDED FAT NEEDED.
@@tomgarbett77Just adding a lump of butter in top of your steaks or even olive oil over your avocado, would have helped your constipation.
@@emk-69high fat fixes this, no need for fiber / carbs
I’ve been carnivore one full year. I decided to go off for a couple of days after a full year. I had gotten rid of all my stomach issues. Omg. Just from one day of carbs I felt like I was trying to pass a baseball. It was awful. Never going off carnivore again.
Yeah sometimes you don’t realise how beneficial a diet is until you come off it! Did you at least get to enjoy some carbs? 😅
Is not because of the carbs why you feel bad. It’s because you have changed your microbiota and now you don’t have the bacteria diversity necessary to handle anything else than meat. Carnivores tend to forget that we have a microbiota and diversity is good. 4 Carnivore here so talking from experience. In my case I only got healthier when taking care of the diversity of my Gut.
@@lurraskea I didn't feel bad at all, as I say in the video I felt great, with high and stable energy levels and reduced appetite etc. But yes I completely get your point and that was my main reservation when starting carnivore was the gut microbiome. But from what I have researched since, it's not necessarily that a carnivore microbiome is worse than a high fibre diet, it is just that it is completely different and so the two are difficult to compare. Hence my earlier point of apples and oranges. In fact the main benefit is that with carnivore you are cutting out all if not most carbs which will deplete the types of microbes that you don't want living in your gut that induce inflammation etc. So I think it's an area that again needs more research, but I have been trusting people like Dr Anthony Chaffee who discusses this at length.
What issues were you having when you were on carnivore?
@@tomgarbett77 my reply was to dessertgardengodess’s comment. There is plenty of research Carnivores simply ignore it. (Lots of dogma in Carnivore, Vegetarians or X tribe, I think is the whole social network algorithms fault creating thought bubbles and eco chambers) I have empirical proof of what I am sharing. In my case following advice from Carnivores was making me sick. (Including Dr. Anthony Chaffee, which in my case did not help, which I am not saying it can not help others, I really like Dr. Chaffee, if you follow him and listen to what he proposes you are actually not Carnivore you ate honey). I have blood panels and GI track doctor objective tests that prove that in my case Carnivore was not fixing my health problem. Actually even better I have objective proof and test results that shows what actually has helped. I am not saying Carnivore will not help others. Just be mindful about generalizing and making it sound like is a diet that will help you if you are human, without considering your genetics, context or background and specially your Gut! In some years ignoring the Gut is going to be like thinking the Earth is in the center of the Solar system, you will see. Your perception of how the Gut works just thinking sugar depletion will fix everything is pretty simplistic I think you need to do more research. I had the same view as you, so nothing personal, I have learned I was wrong. Some of these bacteria will actually feed from your gut mucus in the absence of sugar/fiber/carbs so by starving then you will be destroying your gut and there is a lot more to it that I can share in a little comment. But in short if you start Carnivore with a methane dysbiosis (30-50% of people starting Carnivore will have some kind of dysbiosis most likely), Carnivore most likely make it worse, at least that is my experience and what the empirical data and observations I have tell me. (In my case for my body which might be different for others).
@@tomgarbett77 not sure why my previous reply to your comment does not appear :( here it goes again: @tomgarbett77 my reply was to dessertgardengodess’s comment. There is plenty of research Carnivores simply ignore it. (Lots of dogma in Carnivore, Vegetarians or X tribe, I think is the whole social network algorithms fault creating thought bubbles and eco chambers) I have empirical proof of what I am sharing. In my case following advice from Carnivores was making me sick. (Including Dr. Anthony Chaffee, which in my case did not help, which I am not saying it can not help others, I really like Dr. Chaffee, if you follow him and listen to what he proposes you are actually not Carnivore you ate honey). I have blood panels and GI track doctor objective tests that prove that in my case Carnivore was not fixing my health problem. Actually even better I have objective proof and test results that shows what actually has helped. I am not saying Carnivore will not help others. Just be mindful about generalizing and making it sound like is a diet that will help you if you are human, without considering your genetics, context or background and specially your Gut! In some years ignoring the Gut is going to be like thinking the Earth is in the center of the Solar system, you will see. Your perception of how the Gut works just thinking sugar depletion will fix everything is pretty simplistic I think you need to do more research. I had the same view as you, so nothing personal, I have learned I was wrong. Some of these bacteria will actually feed from your gut mucus in the absence of sugar/fiber/carbs so by starving then you will be destroying your gut and there is a lot more to it that I can share in a little comment. But in short if you start Carnivore with a methane dysbiosis (30-50% of people starting Carnivore will have some kind of dysbiosis most likely), Carnivore most likely make it worse, at least that is my experience and what the empirical data and observations I have tell me. (In my case for my body which might be different for others).
I also went through a period of difficult constipation. I just used an old remedy of one teaspoon of epsom salts in a glass of water. I did that about two or three times over about 10 days and then the issues just went away. I’m now regular. It’s been a few months and I can never go back to the carbs after experiencing the miracle of carnivore. I’m 70 and feel 35/40.
Wow that's incredible and great to hear! Did you have any health problems in particular that you were ooking to fix by trying carnivore?
I felt similarly about the wahl's protocol; one month in and I was done. No red meat, no pork, no gluten, no dairy, no egg is restrictive but it works for me.
Yes that’s why I didn’t choose the Wahls protocol. That and because I believed in the science behind the best bet diet. Are you still on wahls now?
My nutritionist advised high fat and magnesium glycinate 600-900mg for bowel function, if its too much it will cause loose stool, so you just dial it back. We don't realise we are mostly deficient in magnesium and meat isnt that high in magnesium. Although our magnesium requirements may reduce without carbs, but a preexisting deficiency requires high dose supplementation. Although carnivore may be our ancestral diet, we are not living ancestrally. We have lots of physical stress on our bodies from toxins in our water, skincare, medications and health conditions as well as psychological stress which our ancestors didn't have to deal with and they all deplete magnesium rapidly. It's also the case that we drank from natural water sources that were toxin free and mineral rich and now we drink water that is low mineral and toxin rich. Even looking at chlorine in water, this binds the magnesium and makes it unavailable to absorb.
Yes you make a great point here regarding the stresses and toxicities of the modern world that our ancestors didn't have to deal with! I do think though that at least without the plant defense chemicals, absorption of those minerals will be higher. But you are right in that it feels like we are fighting a losing battle a ot of the time, as the western world is unfortunately set up for us to be unhealthy!
My hubby is now 3 weeks in on: meet+fish+mainly dark green veggies+olive oil+few low sugar fruits diet....he's hard core reuma pain is for now complitely GONE...he is a new man and very motivated to continue....he is a builder in his 50s so working hard everyday but has enough power from it...good luck!p.s.for hard stool i would try Molkosan probiotics
Sounds great! Sometimes you need to try it and see the benefits to give you the motivation to try it full time! I’m in the process of trying to convince my mum to try it 😅
Oh wow. So he's doing a modified version of carnivore by adding in the veggies and low sugar fruits. Interesting. If I don't have luck doing the diet, I might try that. I was curious and decided to go short term and see if I could improve a few health issues. We'll see how it goes.
@@kefirheals7383 good luck!
Glad you’re willing to give it another go with increased fat content!
Yes will be interested to try it!
I hope you try again adding more fat.
It will certainly help with MS
Thanks, yes I will definitely try adding more fat when I try again. (Even though I was already eating a lot!)
The reason one "doesn't go" as often on Carnivore is certainly because of the lack of fiber - which is a waste product. Good meat is nearly entirely assimilated. Also, the diversity of meat options provides flavor variations if you include wild game - Yak, Elk, Boar, ... Don't eat just ribeye!
Thanks for the advice! Yeah I don’t have access to much wild game where I am, but was consuming a wide range of meats and fish!
Did you subjectively feel better on this? Is there much evidence to prove that this is better for MS sufferers?
Yes I subjectively felt better. Also I can see now on my whoop fitness tracker that I was at my healthiest throughout the month I was on this diet compared to any other this year which is interesting. Then in terms of evidence there is a wide array of personal stories of overcoming all sorts of autoimmune conditions on the carnivore diet. Look into Mikaela and Jordan Peterson's story for example.
If you didnt tey carnivore with fidelity dont blame the diet. You committed to one month but you didnt do carnivore at all.
Yeah I'm not blaming the diet at all, just sharing my experience so that others can take into account! I still think it s an amazing diet that when I try it strictly in the future will be great for me.
You can take vitamin C as ascorbic acid powder in larger doses, like several grams will sort your stools out PLUS help in any auto immune issues.
Also magnesium (research for the right type) helps greatly. I know with carnivore they say you don't need supplements but additional issues can complicate things.
Thanks for the advice! I am already taking high does magnesium glycinate, but not taking Vitamin C, so will look into this!
@@tomgarbett77don't add supplements, trust me, be strict for at least 3 months and then see why a you would add. Maybe minerals but surely not things like protein powders or any supplements with fillers etc.
Interesting to read so many proponents of the carnivore diet in the comments. I assume this is due to you talking about this diet in videos before, so other carnivore dieters will find it through the algorithm - although I wonder how many of the commentors have MS as well. Personally, as someone who also has MS, I probably wouldn't embark on a high saturated fat diet, but it will be interesting to follow your journey!
You should have to try the carnivore diet not for a month but a year. A month is way too short of time to see whether the carnivore diet would alleviate any ms neurological symptoms. Its pointless to even bother doing it for a month. As for the hemroids , use water to wipe and than toilet paper and those hemroids will go away fast, DONT JUST USE TOILET PAPER by itself to wipe.
Meanwhile drink lots of hot water and hot teas with your carnivore meals. Drink some green matcha teas and continue gyming. If someone follows these principles than I would have the ability to properly judge whether the carnivore diet works for ms. Im strongly considering doing the carnivore diet myself to properly assess whether it will help my ms symptoms. Only thing holding me back is the fact I love my green smoothies so much haha.
Yes completely agree it was not enough time to alleviate any symptoms. I was mainly trying it for a month to see if I experienced any benefits in my general energy levels, strength etc as part of world carnivore month, to see if it would be something I could maintain in the long term. I think in terms of that it was very successful as I do feel I would be able to maintain it if my life situation was more in line with the diet.
Thanks as well for the advice, will keep that in mind going forward!
Be didn’t do a carnivore diet. Fruit and honey are not part of a carnivore diet
@@Jeffyinthehills Yes you're right. I was doing what Paul Saladino describes as an 'animal based' diet.
fruit and honey is a terrible idea on a carnivore diet
Absolutely. It totally defeats the purpose.
Do you watch/ listen to Paul Saladino?
Also what do you think about Shawn Baker now introducing fruit into his carnivore diet?
@@tomgarbett77 He only did it as a short experiment to see whether fruit affects his cholesterol which it didn't. He now doesn't regularly eat fruit. It's just that people read the title and don't know the full story.
Ah Tom you were 2 wks ahead of me so i was really hoping to follow your journey alongside mine. I too havd the same diagnosis RLRM variant. I don't like to name it out loud or even call "my" as i feel it encourages me to own it, and i certainly do not want to own this! I prefer to use distancing words in the attempt to discredit it being allowed in my life. "That MS" sounds so much better.
I started 4 days on just meats and cheese & cream, and eggs only, but grew concerned about oxalate dumping which caused me to research oxalate foods and which coukd be used to help lower the intake first before stopping and going full carnivore again. So week 2 sees me working through moderate oxalate foods and then next week I'll omit the foods from this week to go to lower oxalated foods until I'm hopefully able to remove and return to full carnivore. So i guess i am clean keto for now. Inflammation is one of the issues i am hoping to change, so management of Oxalates are definitely key for my journey. I noticed you didn't use double cream in your coffee? I am stuffing myself as much as possible, with cheeses butter cream olive oils to help keep the fat content high. I am hoping to follow the suggestions of KenDBerryMD moving into carnivore when ready. Thank-you for sharing your journey 🙏🏼
Listening and yeah. That far into carnivore after initial fat adaptive transition.... Too lean not enough fat can cause constipation and too much fat can cause loose stools. I've been carnivore for 7+ months. I usually go once a day but its not uncommon that one day passes and now bowel movement and sometimes 2 days and nothing but third day i go as normal and nothing strange about it. I heard you ate chicken. Nothing against that but i avoid it because too lean. I eat it still but its maybe every 3 weeks. Personally my go to meal once a day pound and half 80/20 ground beef/2 slices of cheddar/salt, 7-8 eggs (pasture raised) and 2 cups beef bone broth. Supplementing 20,000 IU D3, and 400 mg magnesium glycinate due to flu season. Nothing negative to report
Yeah I do think I needed to increase my fat intake. I have been eating a lot fo 80/20 ground beef with extra tallow and when I've eaten chicken I've been eating all the fatty areas and skin etc. So I'm struggling to see where I can get the extra fat from, but maybe I just need to add more beef fat/ tallow to meals. I do think I struggle because I don't eat dairy, otherwise I could easily top up the fat with butter! But Sounds like you've got a great routine there with your diet!
@@tomgarbett77 would ghee count as dairy? I just know ghee is suitable for those with problems with butter.
@@chlamygamine2190 It's considered a grey area, as it should have all the dairy removed but you can never guarantee and so I don't risk it!
Somehow I have been on the carnivore diet for decades and have never been constipated and i never experienced hemorrhoids. It has to be the fat because I load up on the fattiest meats possible as I was trying to get a heart attack. Maybe next time you can try a meat based keto as my ex-vegan friend did. No fruit and honey on a real carnivore diet.
Yeah I think definitely next time I will go pure carnivore, rather than the Paul Saladino approach I went for this time. And yes will definitely look to increase my fat consumption too even though I already ate a lot of fat, just need to go even further it seems! It’s also possible the haemorrhoids came from heavy gym workouts as I was never that constipated, more that my stools were harder than usual.
@@tomgarbett77 It's an interesting idea. I am 55 myself and have been carnivore since a teen, Only tried resistance training a few time in my life for a few months but hated it and gave up after months with no visible gains. I hate almost all fruit and will literally vomit if I try and eat honey. Still use the toilet at least once a day and never had hard turds. Takes 5 minutes max to drop and wash. I look forward to your future experiments!
Higher fat content and bin the fruit!
Fruit and honey ruins the cognitive benefits of ketosis.
Have a tsp of castor oil daily and you will have no issues mate.
Has your MS symptoms ever presented as nausea?
So far i have the flowing:
Tingling in limbs
Nausea
Head pressure
Intermittent blurry vision and blind spot (cant see the word im focusing on when reading) .
Brain fog
Aching legs
Electric shock feeling up my neck and in my head.
Chronic fatigue.
Heart palpitations
Did you experience any/all of these?
Thanks for the upload.
Thanks yes I will definitely look to drop the fruit and increase the fat next time I try.
My initial symptoms were:
Numbness
Tingling
Electric shock in neck when bending
Then I had a relapse that caused the similar loss of vision as you, where I had a blind spot and couldn't focus on the word I was looking at.
So pretty similar to yours! Are you full-time carnivore to overcome your MS?
Maybe you could give your body more time to get used to carnivore. I started to reduce carbohydrates some years ago and last year, march, I started to further reduce carbohydrates and also veggies, all in small steps. Right now I eat ketovore and apart from better skin and greatly improved woundhealing, I also have a much easier task in passing the stool. Where I used to have to go every morning with cramps to pass a rather large volume, I now go more irregularly for smaller volumes, but with no cramps or pain. It feels a lot better. My diet includes a lot of fats, because I always choose fatty meat, use butter et cetera.
Yeah that’s exactly what I wanted to keep fruit in my diet initially to ease into it. I do think that to fix it I need to eat more fats to loosen them up. But great to hear that you are feeling the benefits of going carnivore!
Best way would be keto first. More and more protein and fat. Bone braw soup. I am on for 3 years felling 20 years younger. Blue berry is the best for gut.
Yes that's a great idea of going keto first to help the body adapt and then slowly reduce the fibre int`ke from there to go full carnivore!
Georgia Ede’s new book Change Your Diet Change Your Mind, has some of the best transitional diet advice and discussion of all potential sensitivities from both plant and animal foods that I’ve seen. She discusses 3 versions of what she calls quiet paleo, quiet keto, and quiet carnivore. And while this book is directly aimed at how these diets can affect mental function, 90% is useful to anyone looking at implementing these diets.
fruit is really bad for you on carnivore, you don't get the benefits of carnivore and the fruit will also make you constipated (fibre doesn't actually help you poop, fat does)
not being able to poop is not enough fat intake - you need about 1g of fat per 1g of protein, so like if you have 2 sirloin steaks then you need 1/4 bar of butter
Thanks yes I definitely need to increase my fat intake. The problem being I don't eat butter because of it's links to my autoimmune condition, so will just top up with tallow.
@@tomgarbett77 yeah I switched to tallow for cooking and use minimal butter now - I try to avoid dairy as much as possible although I do enjoy it
What do you think about Shawn Baker now introducing fruit into his carnivore diet?
@@tomgarbett77 he hasn't, he tried it for 4 days and then stopped. Thomas D loves click bait titles.
MCT oil works for me.
Vegan > Carnivore if you want to live
Thanks for sharing your opinion! Are you full time vegan then? I find the anecdotes of vegans having to turn carnivore for their health really interesting.
Well, live and learn. At least you tried! Don't obsess over it, enjoy your food and life.
I eat mostly unprocessed foods, strength train and yoga. No new lesions for 6 years. Take care Tom.
Thanks Karen! Exactly why I decided to stop to be able to enjoy life!
That’s great that you’ve kept yours at bay. I think the mostly whole food diet ie removing processed food, is 90% of the difference you can make with any diet!
Have you looked into trt?
There is NO fruit and Honey in Carnivore diet, You were not doing Carnivore pure and simple. As for the Bowel movements you likely needed more Meat fat or even Butter. It is so important to understand what the Carnivore diet is compared to "Keto" diet.
What do you think about Shawn Baker now introducing fruit into his carnivore diet?
My BP when I started was 150/100 and then 2 weeks into the carnivore diet it shot up to 170/120
Yeah that's not good! I had my blood pressure checked and it came down during the month I was doing carnivore from an already healthy level. Did you purely put it down to the diet or were other factors at play?
Your daily intake should be in the 30% fat content per day. Eating fatty ruminant animals is necessary but many people will supplement the meat with brown butter bites as a tasty fat bomb snack. They will also consume beef and pork bacon to increase their fat intake. Cooking in tallow, lard and butter are all tasty and healthy on the carnivore diet.
Thanks for the advice! But yes I definitely don't think I was consuming enough fat even though it seemed like a lot at the time! All a learning curve.
Should get a mix of carnivore opinions. Dr. Elizabeth Bright talks about these issues.
Thanks for this! Will definitely take a look!
If you were eating honey, perhaps it wasn't raw honey. Most honey isn't raw. I got honey advertised to be "raw" from a local butcher, and it turned out to be adulterated. Clearly bad for health as it gave me splitting headaches and strange jaw ache symptoms. My sister has exactly the same symptoms after eating it. Adulterating honey is a huge industry. Statistically far more honey is consumed than is produced by bees.
DlIf you try again definitely change the type of magnesium supplement. The one you are taking doesn’t help with that problem. Also , castor oil to heal your bum!😊
No so I have just been taking magnesium glycinate, so I will try a different type next time :)
Hace You tried keto or carnivour diet only one week a month? Just to give your body a Boost.
New sub here. Good informative videos. Nice work
Awesome, so glad you are finding my videos useful!
That sucks, 90 days is the best to do. Fibre is a myth. You just were not eating fat. Did you eat butter every day? Did you cook your steak in Tallow? Did you also have electrolytes, the help with this as well. I'd also not recommend doing it with someone else, just do it yourself. The fats are possibly the most important thing. If you enjoy minced beef ask your butcher to make it 40% fat 60% beef, trying eating Scotch Fillet (rib eye) if you can afford it, or what i eat is Rump Cap as it has a lot of fat on it. Ribs are also good, quite fatty. 100% is was your lack of fat. If you get really stuck and wanted instantly relieved from it just eat something with sugar in it and you'll be pooping like water almost instantly :p
Yes I think next time I will give it 90 days for sure! And yeah I have been buying meats from a supermarket so been getting 80/20 mince, so 60/40 would be beneficial! But yes I was cooking in Tallow and also taking electrolytes, so I think it was purely down to not having enough fats in there!
Maybe try a shot glass full of olive oil every morning first thing.🤷♀️
Eat more fat & that usually cures it.
Yeah that was the conclusion I came to! Felt like I was eating a lot of fat anyway but maybe it just wasn’t enough!
hemmroids maybe oxalate dumping look at sally k nortons work
You need more fat, not fiber, fiber is garbage for humans.
Meat heals.
Paul Saladino is not carnivore, he is a marketer pulling marketing stunts. Stick to the lion diet if you have auto immune issues and you'll be good.
You were not on it long enough to accomplish anything what a joke.
yes it was only short as I wanted to try if I could do it for world carnivore month. I still feel like I definitely benefitted in terms of my energy levels etc.
Gpvegan, for youth health ❤
you needed more fat, hard poo can happen, just add fat
Yes I agree. It is just difficult to increase fat as I don't eat dairy! Maybe I need to add more beef tallow to my meat
Hi Tom are you allergic to dairy or is it because of the ms@@tomgarbett77
Hi Tom, I am so relieved to see you are no longer eating the carnivore diet. The research behind it for autoimmune diseases is weak. There are no long term, peer reviewed studies to support it. Our gut healthy is so important to managing our MS and its symptoms. We need fiber (and a lot of diversity of it) for a healthy gut. I highly recommend the book Fiber Fueled by Dr. Will Bulsiewicz.
I have MS for more than 25yrs...i eat BBBE Beef, butter, bacon and eggs....90% of my MS is gone....i feel healthy, i can walk normal again AND without pain
No! We do not need fiber. It makes stomach issues way worse. Carnivore cured my stomach issues. I’m off all medication. Feel great.
The research behind it for autoimmune is weak, but the huge and growing number of case studies are strong. There are no long term peer reviewed studies on any other diet and I do mean studies, as in RCTs not epidemiology - i.e highly confounded diet surveys, animal or test tube studies.
I cured mast cell activation, histamine intolerance, IBS, BMS, chemical sensitivity, subclinical hypothyroid, adrenal dysregulation, chronic fatigue, joint and muscle pain after decades of consuming a supposedly very healthy wholefood diet that was supposedly good for my gut health. Healing began within 2 weeks of starting carnivore and 2 years on I've completely resolved all of those issues. We know so little about gut health to be largely meaningless, the studies on this are in their infancy. And I've recently seen several self reports of MS symptoms in remission and and brain lesions completely disappear on carnivore.
@@Lynette18able have you done an interview in any carnivore channel about your success?
Oh please🙄...this argument is getting old and weak with hundreds of thousands of anecdotes of its healing power...no scaremongering
I knew you won’t last bro because all the carnival diet will give you is more inflammation
What makes you think that? The science shows that a carnivore diet is great for reducing inflammation because your body can digest and absorb 100% of the food. Hence the reason it can be beneficial for those with autoimmune conditions.
@@tomgarbett77 I think people underestimate the importance of fiber in our diet and specifically that diet and ways of life is the leading cause of diseases. You have a micro biome thriving with different gut bacteria’s the more plant count the more diversity. Animals don’t have fiber only plant does short chain fatty acids which int turn promotes health comes from eating plants not animals.
@@tomgarbett77 diet consists of animal is high in inflammation. Meat causes úric acid
@@marytorti5147 yes the fibre aspect through me off when I was first looking into the carnivore diet. However studies show that carnivores have a completely different micro biome that still promotes health and you receive the short chain fatty acids direct from the food rather than by the break down of plant fibres. It appears to me that comparing the two is like comparing apples with pears. It seems fibre is beneficial for those on an omnivorous diet that includes carbs, but through the lense of a carnivore diet there is simply no need for that fibre. It’s a really interesting discussion!
@@tomgarbett77 Tom I am trying to disuade you from your choice which is your right. I am not a herbivore or vegan but comparing the two diets is not apples and pears. Plans based diet trumps animal and fat based diet. When you go to the forest there are diversity and life (ecosystem) I hate snakes and many creepy creatures in the forest but believe it or not their importance in the system can not be overlooked because they add color and flavor that exist in the ecosystem. Fiber/plant don’t only improve your micro biome but acts as a sweeper. It helps regulate the moistness of your stool and gives you a nice feel of emptiness when you go no 2. It’s been rightly said all sickness begins in the gut and believe it or not having poop stuck inside of you is like living in a house that are unswept/ no cleaning; it’s dirty, stinky and unpleasant and it’s a breathing place for germ and bacteria. Shifting your micro biome could be a short term gain for a long term suffering. Blocking your arteries and are susceptible to heart disease. Animal diet is no match to plant/fiber. Your micro biome is more diverse than All the billions of galaxies . Hey your body is your most prized possession and should run like a well oiled machine if you give it garbage it will not run the way it should. Check out the side effects of a carnivore diet. Peace out ✌️