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Me and my Bass - What's the difference between a Steinberger L2 and a Spirit by Steinberger XT-2
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
- Me, talking about some of my basses and related gear.
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XT sounded more full. Now I'm thinking of getting the less expensive XT. Thanks for the review.
Opinion: in the playing demo, XL sounded more punchy solo, but in the mix, the XT blew away the XL, which sounded a little lost.
In the early 80's Steinberger came out with L2 I bought one used and loved it but like an idiot and poor I sold it. 10yrs ago I paid $2000 for LX2 and although the neck is smaller than say Fender P it never lets me down on tone and performance. One of the few items I own that has appreciated over the years.
Expensive, but well worth the money, right? 👍
I love the original L2 on it's build, looks and clear quality and played on it's own the extra treble in the tone make it sound clear punchy and precise... BUT and it is a HUGE BUT In the mix the XT was for me a clear winner sitting in the mix much better and because of that deep strong bass sound in the mix the XT wins hands down... To my 👂ears 👂 (I am listening to this on a Samsung Galaxy) the original sounded thin and more guitar like... IMHO
I have played both and love both - but honestly the XT-2 can have a similar tone demonstrated on the L2 with some adjustment on the level and tone knobs. The pickups are clearly better on the L2, but I'm just pointing out that the tone that was played on the XT-2 isn't the only prominent sound you can get out of it.
That's true, but you can say that with any bass. And I count in the fact, that I don't want these videos to be too long, I put all the basses, in all my videos, eq wise, in a sort of default position. No boosting or cutting (if possible).
@@neoland666 I understand (said the guy that does way too long videos on nerdy test equipment). I just was simply pointing out that's not the XT2's only tone is all.
Nice video Neo! When I got my XL2 I was blown away at how versatile and different it was compared to the XT2. Really beautiful basses the L and XL’s.
Thanks, I also was surprised by the difference. As I could not find anybody else talking about it, I did the video. And they are beautiful basses indeed!
@@neoland666 I did a video on it before but I can’t find it now. I might’ve deleted it by mistake 🤷♂️
@@mindhead2005 Too bad.
@@neoland666 yours did the trick, mate!
Did you give Bernd at the s/n database your serial number?
He’s compiling them all
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I’m glad I saw this vid, was thinking of buying the XT2 but now hearing how much better the L2 sounds in comparison I might hold off a bit. Would be nice if Steinberger reissued the L2/XL2 model
Well on the Ned Steinberger book, Ned poses with a newly made L2/XL2. Unfortunally I understand, it will never see the light of day. XT2 is not a bad bass by the way, but the simularity between that bass and the L2/XL2, is the shape.
@@neoland666 hopefully someday it will be released. Curious why it hasn’t been reissued, licensing issue?
I might give the XT2 another glance
@@edwardalexander2193 No idea, maybe Gibson (owner of the Steinberger brand) is making trouble. It can also be the fact that making fully composit instruments, is quiet hard, and will make them pretty expensive.
For some reason, it sounded like the XT-2 was easier and more growly than the L2. I would not have expected as much from passive pickups.
If I thought I could afford to get something like the XT-2 for myself, it wouldn’t just be because of the professional quality. It would also be as a point of pride; for the most part, that model was manufactured in the same city where I was born, Newburgh, New York, USA.
First up, there's nothing 's wrong with XT. I just wanted to make a video which I couldn't find anywhere on YT. Just to make the point that there ís a difference between the original and the wooden copy.
Thanks for having done it,@@neoland666. Meanwhile, I need to leave a retraction. I meant that the L2 is the one that was manufactured in the place where I was born
Your welcome, and I understood what you meant with the manufacturing place. I saw every picture and video available on the interweb of that, in my eyes, "magical" place. Long live Ned!!
Agreed, and a fair number of people responding felt the same, including me. In the mix, the XT worked better (in this example).
No disrespect to original L2. It sounds very good and sterile as originally intended but I found XT sound sounding better as far as cutting through the mix with this specific Spector like growl
But I didn't say the XT is a bad bass, what I try to get across is the fact that you don't get the sound and feel of an L2 or XL2 when buying an XT. An awfull lot of people do think that, only because they can't get their hands on an original. I was lucky enough to have an XP as my first bass, and then buying as a backup an XT. Right then and there I was confronted with a lot of sound and feel differences.
Yeah totally different animals . I had an opportunity to play one of the first L2s ever made serial number 0022 and I must say it sounded great with these big EMG logos pickups . I wish I was able to get that bass but the price was really high so I passed on that . I also played XT model in the same store and it sounded really good. I say it because I prefer passive pickups and they have that very cool growl when you have a good amp.A lot of ppl knock these cheaper versions of Steinberger basses not realizing that it’s hard to compare 2 very different instruments with only a few similar features .
@@bartwitek9526 Those pickups are SS pickups
Mine don’t have the big EMG logo, funny enough. Serial number 0011
I'm liking the sound of the Spirit a bit better, too. I actually like that it is passive.
Steinberger vs Neinberger. Completely different classes of instruments.
Before you say anything my opinion would be the difference is night and day.That said I've a Spirit bass and its a cool little bass for relatively low coin.
So, did you watch the video? If so, you would have heard that the XT is a nice bass. It only got nothing to do with the original L.
@@neoland666 Totally agree.But IMO the L2 is the Steinberger tone.The Carbon fiber is the difference.
I would sell my kidney for the L2, good video
Yep, unfortunately, that's the going price these days.
@@neoland666I wish I jumped on the original carbon fiber Bergs back when you didn't need to sell a kidney to afford it.That is the Steinberger sound,and a big part of their mystique.If as one comment stated that he liked the newer model and it's "Spector" tone,then buy a Spector.
@@kevmac1230 You are right, ridiculous prices are being asked for the L and XL's.
L2 so much strong!
There still are people, who doubt it...
Your XT is a little earlier than the current ones and has a rosewood fingerboard!
Wish I had the one with the phenolic fretboard.....
@@neoland666 not a lot of difference bud.
I had one and sold it.
I have an L, an XL with a transtrem and a pink XL as well as synapses, a Hohner B2A and an XT
There is NO comparison between an L and an XT
The particular mix here favours the XT a little but in the real world, the punch and playability of the XL or L is head and shoulders above
Having said that, I do like my XT
I have a friend who makes strap hooks for them which help with balance a lot
The neck on the L2 seems to be thinner and less wide than the XT2.
Just compared them, they are alike.
@@neoland666 Oh cool! Thanks so much for doing that! That's good to know.
At today's rates...about 8,000$
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I'm shocked to find i prefer the sound of the XT 😯
I'm glad you like it, it all comes down to taste afterall. I happen to love the sound of plastic 😁
I'm glad you like it, it all comes down to taste afterall. I happen to love the sound of plastic 😁
I'm glad you like it, it all comes down to taste afterall. I happen to love the sound of plastic 😁
@@neoland666 I'm a big fan of plastic too hence my surprise! Great video, thanks for sharing with us 👍
No offense intended: Playing like that, one would be far better served by saving themselves a LOT of money with the XT/Spirit copies …
You clearly missed my disclaimer at 06.13 😁
The huge error that was made at the end of this video is he is only using the bass on one pickup setting. So he hasn't shown what they both really sound like
He? You mean me? To correct you on this point, the bridge pickup is full open and the neck pickup is on 3/4 . And that on both basses. I prefer that setting on all my Steinbergers, by the way.