JORDAN PETERSON "ACTS" AS THOUGH GOD EXISTS???

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  • @Pangburn
    @Pangburn  День тому +3

    Full discussion here: ua-cam.com/video/FmH7JUeVQb8/v-deo.html

  • @bowser515
    @bowser515 День тому +47

    Drugs can help people stop smoking. Therefore God is real.... How do people take Peterson seriously? I know he speaks in a confident and well spoken manner. But he says so little of actual substance, and so much nonsense...

    • @yungalucard9139
      @yungalucard9139 День тому

      Still can’t deny the whole mysticism factor of that stuff. If I didn’t have some kind of mystical experience I don’t know if I ever would have opened myself up to religion.

    • @bowser515
      @bowser515 День тому

      @yungalucard9139 You say that as if its a good thing. If there was any good reason to belive, it wouldn't be mystical. You're basically saying that you stated believing nonsense, because you damaged your brain with drugs.

    • @I-am-Hrut
      @I-am-Hrut День тому

      ​@@yungalucard9139 Mystic experiences are evidence of mystic experience... seems to me that when Peterson defines religion as "a different kind of truth from science" and "drug-induced self-described mystical experiences" what he's missing is that all of these drugs work in the brain in well-studied, completely natural ways.
      Matt is right. The language we use to describe our experiences limits our ability to accurately describe those experiences. If you don't understand Debroglie-Bohm QM and you've only heard of the Copenhagen Interpretation of the double slit experiment then you will inaccurately describe this phenomenon as wave-particle duality when knowledge of pilot-wave theories produces the same results without asserting such magical thinking.

    • @Chagooo
      @Chagooo 23 години тому

      @@yungalucard9139people looking for faith in unexplainable things

  • @gmmaupin
    @gmmaupin День тому +25

    Peterson is so full of BS I can't believe it....actually I can. He makes arguments that poorly educated people will think are profound, but all he really does is dodge the question. He presents absolutely nothing but wind.

    • @mrthewhite2620
      @mrthewhite2620 День тому +7

      Now, what do you mean by wind, eh? There's power in wind, you know, but no one knows where it comes from. How do you determine where wind started? Does it even make sense to say it started, or is that just post-modern Marxist nonsense? We need to understand what these words mean if we are ever going to have a conversation about whether or not I produce "wind."

    • @gmmaupin
      @gmmaupin День тому +2

      @@mrthewhite2620 Love the reply...but then I thought: Did Peterson reply in person?

    • @zenbear9952
      @zenbear9952 День тому +2

      @@mrthewhite2620 You nailed literally every argument he makes.

    • @ahklys1321
      @ahklys1321 23 години тому

      Have you ever read a book?

    • @Impaled_Onion-thatsmine
      @Impaled_Onion-thatsmine 14 годин тому

      Sure, God was real - he was born in the roman churches that were converted to catholicism. Perhaps Saint Bartholomew was a God? Is that real, look what they had to do to convert the church to catholicism in France. I don't want to be exposed to this. Serious macabre obsessive thought issues?
      Supernatural experiences? I can confirm the moon came to my backyard multiple times floating around blocked all aps to my smartphone.
      Dammit the theory is the orbit of the moon creates an interaction between the orbit of the earth body and body of the ocean creating wind and weather within the barrier of the atmosphere. Thats old. Regardless anything that's proposed will be refuted somehow.

  • @miguelvshdh9576
    @miguelvshdh9576 День тому +4

    I'm beginning to understand what Jordan's substrate is, and Jordan is full of it.

  • @bd3391
    @bd3391 День тому +8

    I can only take so much of Peterson’s smug unintelligent rambling.

  • @neotokyo385
    @neotokyo385 День тому +36

    Jordan Peterson also acts as if Trump didn't try to steal the 2020 election sadly. I used to respect this man.

    • @Uouttooo
      @Uouttooo День тому +3

      He said that if he were an American, he would vote for Trump.

    • @taboo_echoes
      @taboo_echoes День тому +7

      He didn't try to steal it but now in 2025 Trump is your daddy😂😂😂😂😂

    • @taboo_echoes
      @taboo_echoes День тому +3

      Trump is now your daddy. 😂😂😂😂😂. 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

    • @daveyboots79
      @daveyboots79 День тому

      ​@@taboo_echoes You are welcome to your sexual preferences and fantasies, but that doesn't make them a reality for others. Whatever you call that man from the privacy of your own bedroom is your business

    • @kumaranvij
      @kumaranvij День тому +5

      @@taboo_echoes Are you defending Trump or making fun of America for having him as a president?

  • @hibernopithecus7500
    @hibernopithecus7500 34 хвилини тому +1

    Thank you, Pangburn, for helping me with my New Year resolutions & serving me word salad for breakfast. 👍

  • @iemy2949
    @iemy2949 День тому +5

    What would life be without a Petersonian metaphysical substrate? I’d say …. More coherent.

  • @kumaranvij
    @kumaranvij День тому +6

    Peterson's scornful, scowling, interrupting rudeness is one of the biggest reasons I don't understand why people can't see through his "I care" act. Logic aside, the man is just openly rude and disrespectful to people who don't agree with him. Why do so many people respond well to this?

    • @iemy2949
      @iemy2949 День тому

      It’s not easy being green. 🐸

    • @ItsPalm
      @ItsPalm 17 годин тому

      Some people thrive off of opposition rather than consensus seeking.

    • @kumaranvij
      @kumaranvij 15 годин тому +1

      @@ItsPalm One does not have to be rude to have a difference of opinion. Politeness makes good discourse, and need not be associated with being consensus-seeking. Of course, there's nothing wrong with two people having a conversation, and one of the people changing his or her mind as a result - that is one of the benefits of conversation, learning and movement toward the best argument. This is harder to do with people interrupting and being disrespectful.

    • @ItsPalm
      @ItsPalm 14 годин тому +1

      @@kumaranvij​​⁠Yes I understand. I could have been clearer: some people would root for such behavior because they frame discourse as a battle rather than one centered on mutual search for truth or reason.

    • @kumaranvij
      @kumaranvij 14 годин тому

      @@ItsPalm Oh, good, a consensus! ;)

  • @GrammeStudio
    @GrammeStudio День тому +2

    peterson said that someone who uses high tech devices fundamentally believes in quantum mechanics
    because those objects operate by those physics principles
    by his logic a chiId using smartphone is a genius
    for understanding quantum physics lol

  • @stanleyhyde8529
    @stanleyhyde8529 День тому +2

    This restaurant sucks. I didn't even get any dressing for the word salad Jordan Peterson made for me. I want my money back.

  • @TartarusPU
    @TartarusPU День тому

    The beginning of this exchange was so humorous and showed their talent for shows

  • @baddogma
    @baddogma День тому +4

    Peterson makes Deepak Chopra sound intelligent.

  • @kumaranvij
    @kumaranvij День тому +4

    Words are incredibly limiting. Nevertheless, until we can invent the Vulcan mind-meld, they are the best tools we have for explicit communication.
    Until Jordan Peterson gets hold of them. He would render words like "belief" meaningless. There would be different levels of "belief" depending on how genius-y the people who "believe" are. With him being the top level of genius, of course. The people who "can't understand how layered" belief is, the everyday plebes, would just go on believing in "deep" stuff like God without even really knowing what it is they're believing in - how "nested" it is in art and history, all that nonsense.
    And still the people he thinks of as the "plebes" love him. Sort of like they love the Orange One, who looks down on all poor people. I'll never get it.

    • @mikesandmire211
      @mikesandmire211 День тому

      Don't overthink it, con men have different and varying forms of BS, in order to baffle certain people.

    • @kevinkoch-jj1uj
      @kevinkoch-jj1uj День тому +2

      Some people relish being subservient to others (gods, leaders, spouses). It releases them from critical thinking and responsibility.

    • @kumaranvij
      @kumaranvij День тому +1

      @@kevinkoch-jj1uj Yes, sort of like when we're children we must trust the adults in charge of us, since we're not yet able to think critically very well, or understand the world.
      I wish everyone would grow up, fully. Leaving the responsibility on the grown-ups' shoulders should be for children, only.

  • @samuele.marcora
    @samuele.marcora 4 години тому

    The mushroom experiment argument tells me everything I need to know.

  • @205Raven
    @205Raven День тому

    Jordan Peterson and Alex O'Connor seem like two ships passing in opposite directions. I would not be shocked to see in 5 years that Peterson is an Atheist and O'Connor is a Christian.

  • @michaelanderson4275
    @michaelanderson4275 День тому +1

    Peterson and his intellectual babbling word salad

  • @Homo_sapiens_sapien
    @Homo_sapiens_sapien День тому

    JP is incredibly smart making his world view about his religion so much more intellectually dishonest. Every religious person just happens to be of the “right one” while believing others are wrong…a big overlooked red flag

  • @errorfree9301
    @errorfree9301 День тому

    No one had an experience! They had a dream and could remember parts of it and that caused feelings.

  • @kalewintermute28
    @kalewintermute28 День тому +1

    Jordan Peterson either engages in sophistry or is an abysmal communicator. One, the other, or both are true.

  • @Scytale101
    @Scytale101 3 години тому

    In summary ... mushrooms are god. This, All hail Mario as our savior

  • @piehound
    @piehound День тому +2

    It doesn't necessarily have to be the God of the bible. (1) Clearly the world is in the hands of other principalities and powers. Ever notice that ???? (2) Many if not most of the problems and issues we face are caused by other PEOPLE. Ever notice that ???? (3) Bible says YE ARE GODS. So even if no one can prove or disprove the BIG God . . . there is still US. The little gods . . . And OH yes . . . devils. WE humans are gods and devils. hahahaahahaha

  • @kevinkoch-jj1uj
    @kevinkoch-jj1uj День тому +2

    Hey Jordan, I'll make it simple for you. There is no "metaphorical substrate". Keep trying.

  • @heyy1829
    @heyy1829 День тому

    why tf are we reuploading old shit?

  • @kmonsense8716
    @kmonsense8716 День тому

    you will reject materialism if you have critical thinking as small as a mustard seed.

  • @AstorsonofEl
    @AstorsonofEl День тому

    God is an experience. You have had it....or not. Hope this helps some of you struggling 🎉

    • @gottliebdee263
      @gottliebdee263 День тому +5

      God is imaginary. You can either demonstrate him,(not just to yourself),or you can’t and you cannot.
      He exists ONLY in your head

    • @kumaranvij
      @kumaranvij День тому

      It really doesn't. But thanks for the kind idea, and the party symbol. That's a party symbol, right?

    • @A15fifteen
      @A15fifteen День тому

      ​@gottliebdee263 really because it seems that he also exists in the Bible.

    • @kumaranvij
      @kumaranvij День тому +1

      @@A15fifteen Who exists in the Bible. God? but you know the Bible was written by people, right?
      Why does God seem so different in the different parts of the Bible? Why does he talk directly with some people, and not others? Why does he seem more violent in the earlier parts of the Bible? Although dooming everyone who doesn't believe to hell is pretty violent, too.

    • @MG-ot2yr
      @MG-ot2yr День тому

      You might want to look into the neuroscience behind the "religious experience", you're basically shutting down the parts of the brain responsible for temporal and spatial orientation, and activating the parts of the brain associated with pleasure (ie, sex and drugs). So you remove yourself from the reality of time and space, and put yourself in a different dimension...basically an out of body experience. Doesn't make it real.

  • @jamiekeller3109
    @jamiekeller3109 День тому +2

    666 views when I came across this. Coincidence?? Mmmm yeah...just a coincidence. Nothing supernatural going on...at all...Ever!

    • @petsmart1000
      @petsmart1000 День тому +2

      It’s just a number, relax.🥴🤣🤣

  • @yungalucard9139
    @yungalucard9139 День тому +2

    Usually when atheists say they don’t believe in a god they’re talking about a personal one. If they just take the word god and replace it with ‘intelligence’ the line starts to be a lot more clear. My philosophy is start with eliminating barriers of disbelief.

    • @N1tr063nFr05trhym3
      @N1tr063nFr05trhym3 День тому +3

      That doesn't prove anything at all, you're just calling a vague concept with another vague name

    • @kumaranvij
      @kumaranvij День тому

      What is a "barrier of disbelief"? Why should we replace the word "god" with "intelligence"? Won't that prevent us from understanding the difference between the two ideas?

    • @yungalucard9139
      @yungalucard9139 День тому

      @@kumaranvijnot necessarily. Because god as we know in the Bible is both immaterial and all knowing. That has the description of some kind of intelligent phenomenon. Thats why I say to get to the concept of a creator requires broadening our reasoning .

    • @kumaranvij
      @kumaranvij День тому

      @@yungalucard9139 I don't understand how that is broadening our reasoning. It is defying reason. Reason involves using logic, not starting with the result you want (God exists) and working backward to "prove" it.
      I could "show" that God is necessarily a bellydancer if I wanted to use slippery logic to do so, rather than strictly staying to what is actually logical, even if I don't like what I find there.

    • @yungalucard9139
      @yungalucard9139 День тому

      @@kumaranvijyou’re looking for the truth, and I’m here to tell you the search is over, you found it. I could go on giving my counter argument but are you prepared to humble yourself to christian concepts? The choice is yours, and don’t think you don’t have it, free will is real.

  • @24tommyst
    @24tommyst День тому +1

    I act BETTER than if I believed some sky monster exists--as we all should, Jordie poo.

    • @A15fifteen
      @A15fifteen День тому +1

      Ahhh yes and Matt is a wonderful person to follow. HA! That "sky monster" or "sky daddy" as you guys like to call him has some good direction on how you should live your life. Would you like to discuss? Let us begin by you providing your standard for what is good and what is bad or evil. Go!

    • @24tommyst
      @24tommyst 21 годину тому

      @@A15fifteen Well, first of all, having good ethics would demand that you live in reality. How could you be moral if you think killing the first-born for some non-existent sky monster is a good thing?
      Secondly, it requires good moral intuition, which means you have a non-psychopatic brain, were raised around a loving community, etc.
      Lastly, it demands that you actually DO what you know is right, which means either following good leaders like Jesus, MLK, Ghandi, etc or following YOURSELF instead of doing whatever the crowd and their shitty leaders are doing at the moment--and sure as fuck, that means you don't follow evil ass Yahweh.

    • @A15fifteen
      @A15fifteen 20 годин тому

      @@24tommyst You use words and terms like good, good ethics, moral intuition, and what you know is right BUT you did not provide the standard at which you determine these things. You mention following yourself, is that it? So we should be OK with Hi*ler and the fact that he was following himself or Stal*n or any one else that thinks what they are doing is right from their own perspective.
      No. A standard must be something above or great than us (not us!). How is it that you can call Yahweh evil? What standard are you using? yours? But hey Yahweh is just following himself as you mention above and that it OK.

  • @G_Demolished
    @G_Demolished 18 годин тому

    He knows it’s wrong but the grift is just too good to give up.

  • @haydenwalton2766
    @haydenwalton2766 День тому

    I used to quite admire jordan.
    seems he's turned into the muppet that never was

  • @martifingers
    @martifingers День тому

    Peterson's questionable account of the experimental evidence for the efficacy of mystical experiences in smoking cessation is examined critically here: ua-cam.com/video/KaDAuiLaT2Q/v-deo.html
    It is worth watching as this seems typical of Peterson's style of debating.

  • @gloriouspurpose_
    @gloriouspurpose_ День тому

    What is bro yapping about

  • @EatThis93
    @EatThis93 11 годин тому

    Jordan Rambleson.

  • @WalderFrey
    @WalderFrey День тому

    How Peterson keeps getting a platform for his brand of nonsense is difficult to fathom.

  • @gerrievanbreugel7245
    @gerrievanbreugel7245 3 години тому

    I am having more and more problems listening to mr. Peterson. While he is a smart man he increasingly is sounding blabla when he is asked a direct question and goes of not answering it

  • @ahklys1321
    @ahklys1321 23 години тому

    Peterson bashing has become the "cool" thing to do. And I don't concurr with his god beliefs. But people are so dumb, have such apparent high opinions of themselves as to think they can put themselves on a level with Peterson, who actually has a brilliant mind and is really well educated. If you think what hes saying is a "word salad" I ask you this: when was the last time you picked up a philosophy or psychiatry book? Or any damn book? Yeah I thought so.

    • @bdude93
      @bdude93 8 годин тому

      Who exactly is putting themselves on his level…? Seems like they’re just calling out his word salads…

  • @mikesandmire211
    @mikesandmire211 День тому

    Magic Mushrooms caused me to see and watch the walls of my house breathe, surely a biblical message...c'mon man, you are reaching so far and grasping at straws. IMO

  • @WhotheHellknowsAnyway
    @WhotheHellknowsAnyway День тому

    Jordan thinks he is God!

  • @JayQuest69
    @JayQuest69 День тому +3

    Now Jordan can ask Matt what a woman is lol

    • @daveyboots79
      @daveyboots79 День тому

      Ah yes, the impotent war cry of the incel... or is it the mating call..? Equally ineffective regardless

    • @N1tr063nFr05trhym3
      @N1tr063nFr05trhym3 День тому +2

      We all know which of the two would give some convoluted nonsense as an answer

    • @JayQuest69
      @JayQuest69 День тому +1

      @N1tr063nFr05trhym3 The difference is millions of people go to see Peterson and a handful of people like you listen to what Matt has to say. The reason why the atheist movement is in such decline is because of the approach Matt takes, even cosmic skeptic talks about this so wake up bro. It's not 2015 anymore lol

    • @JayQuest69
      @JayQuest69 День тому

      ​@@N1tr063nFr05trhym3 There's also a reason why this channel is flooded with old videos my guy like come on 😂

    • @JayQuest69
      @JayQuest69 День тому

      The only time this channel was really popular was when Peterson was walking through it lol

  • @Stan-w3h
    @Stan-w3h 22 години тому

    the trinity god of christianity was man made. voted on at nicea 325ad foreign to jesus but worshiped by Peterson. what a nut job. muslim since 2002. monotheism is the truth

  • @rogerdittus2952
    @rogerdittus2952 День тому

    Is it just me, or is this channel just about hilighting sections of debates that Dr Peterson has had with various "atheist types" where he offers some quite insightful ans interesting dialogue - but ends up getting thoroughly spanked during the process?

    • @brnfrmjts05
      @brnfrmjts05 День тому

      Yes, you're certainly the only one who thinks it's insightful. You really should be ashamed of that.

    • @rogerdittus2952
      @rogerdittus2952 День тому

      @@brnfrmjts05 I guess my leadup to my punchline was a wee bit too long for the sarcasm to surive 🤣

  • @dcarroll_86
    @dcarroll_86 День тому

    peterson is above reproch is his mind. i have an ex wife

  • @WhotheHellknowsAnyway
    @WhotheHellknowsAnyway День тому

    Jordan: Let me confuse you with my mumble jumble way of debating.

  • @ChrisHodges87
    @ChrisHodges87 День тому

    Damn it Peterson, you are so full of crap now. People on mushrooms are seeing God? You are smarter than this. What happened to you?

    • @paulmccarter908
      @paulmccarter908 День тому

      Stupid people are paying the bills.
      And promoting this cultural grifter

  • @TheWayofFairness
    @TheWayofFairness День тому

    God can mean the totality of everything. I don't care if there was intelligence in the first place. This document may be an awakening for Jordan Peterson. ---- Hopefully these ideas will work for you and become your idea of truth also.
    Thinking causes all of our problems and also all of our solutions. If you have a problem, it is because you are not thinking right. Wrong thinking is like having the cart in front of the horse. The horse must be in front of the cart so it can make the cart move.
    We don’t create reality. Only God does. We cannot change God. We can change our reality with actions. There are human servants of God and there are powerful - non-human - servants of God. Non-Human servants of God can change reality with actions in a big way. They empower us to be able to change reality with our thoughts as well as with our actions. Either the non-human servants of God created our reality as a simulation, that they can alter as if it is a video game, or they have the ability to alter our reality, as if it is a video game.
    God created reality within God. God did not create reality outside of God. There is not anything outside of God. God is everything and everyone. God doesn't need you to surrender to God. Instead surrender to the idea that God is you. God is you and always has been and always will be. It is you that fights against God by not accepting that God is everything that happened and everything that is happening and God will be whatever happens in the future. God is everyone. God is our goodness and our evil.
    Team Fairness is a servant of God. Become a servant of God also. Servants of God choose to not do anyone wrong and to care about everyone. We depend on God’s creation. We depend on the servants of God. When you're having some difficulty ask for the servants of God to help you. We are grateful for the servants of God.
    People that don’t understand God's way of fairness sometimes try to force us into surrendering to them. They are not servants of God. They are not asking for the servants of God to help them with their difficulty. They are trying to be God themselves. It is not possible. God is already them and God is everything they are doing.
    God is a singularity. There are not different God’s that fight each other. God is the people that are fair to each other and God is the people that do others wrong. God is Jesus and God is Satan. We cannot change God. God is the only thing that never changes. Jesus and Satan can change, but not God. It is not possible to defeat God.
    Whatever is going on it is God doing it so be totally alright with it. We ask for help with it from God's servants. We are also God’s servant to help with it. In this way we are not fighting against anything because we know the victory will be God’s.
    We have all done others wrong in the past. We all have issues in the past that trouble us. Correct thinking will unburden us with the past. It will no longer trouble us. By using this God thinking I described all issues past or present are resolved. Everything that happened in the past was God.
    Did God have intelligence in the beginning or did intelligence evolve from biological evolution? We do not care either way. We look for evidence of things. We ask a servant of God for help with the opinions of others. After all God is doing what they do and say. We don’t fight against anything. Servants of God are here to help with the conflict. They will make it go away. We can just think, whatever. God is us. We don’t exist. The problem doesn't exist. Only God exists.
    Imagine that there is a person with a knife that tells us we are wrong. Only God exists. Whatever will be will be. God is the person with the knife and also the knife. God is also the policeman that finds out about the person with the knife. God is the gun that the policeman has. God is the handcuffs on the hands of the person that had the knife. How can someone tell us that we are wrong? We don’t exist. Only God exists.
    Wrong thinking causes our problems. A silent, no thought mind stops the wrong thinking. Just stop thinking. Inspiration will come.
    Sometimes it seems the only way to stop others from doing us wrong is to affirm that if they do us wrong, they are going to get hurt. You can simply think the thought, or you can even tell the other with words, directly or with a message. We can explain that it will be a servant of God that actually gives them pain or an unpleasant smell or taste. It might make them faint. It may even end their life. If I am extremely disturbed by their wrongdoing, I imagine hurting them myself. We can even imagine ending their life. Some people seem desperate to put us under their control. They will lie to us trying to control us. We do not need to accept this. Stay friends. Try to convince them to become a servant of God also. When they agree to not do you wrong and to care about you, they are completely forgiven, and all their guilt is erased.
    For more on this please read The World Fairness Agreement.

  • @johnhamel4662
    @johnhamel4662 День тому

    Peterson has become a fool.