Alex Roy's Ambulance Ride - TST Podcast
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- Alex Roy just did a very interesting cross-country drive with his mom. We talk about the present world of automated driving; Arizona vs SF, the cones, what Waymo did right, etc.
- Alex has a theory on why converting cars to EV could be a GOOD thing for driver engagement.- Why there aren't cannonball records in Europe.
- When will AI be put to a vote?
- How did the market downturn effect the autonomous landscape?
- Should you keep an Integra Type R forever?
- The right scarf for fall.
Recorded August 29, 2023
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0:00 Intro
4:30 Guilty of plotting
7:08 Fast and Furious musical parody
12:52 Alex’s medical cannonball run
47:25 getting invited to the FBI academy
52:45 Le Go Fast
55:10 Baja 1000
56:06 Back to the FBI
1:00:48 Forever cars
1:09:00 Automomous car changes
1:32:40 EV classic car problems
1:49:22 Patreon Q&A
1:50:07 AV tech vote
1:52:00 Trade in Tesla?
1:53:03 Scarf for fall 2023
1:53:12 Next frontier of transportation records
1:55:35 Other cannonball runs
2:02:49 Wildest future predictions
2:04:50 Pajero Evo Manual price
2:06:40 What happened at Argo
2:08:39 Most stable car on highways
2:10:41 Changing trajectory of autonomous cars
2:13:15 Under $50k fizz
2:19:00 Thanks Alex!
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The reflections off the dome pieces in this episode are impeccable. What a show.
😂
They are trying to outshine each other, extra time with the dome buffer this morning
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Hey, us bald peeps need that buffin' OK...take a fault and make it the center piece! 😂😂
Alex is such a treat, and always has new and interesting (even if they're old) stories and perspectives to share.
He's probably also one of the few reliable sources on AV I ever hear from, and his take is spot on. We need car enthusiasts to be part of that revolution, it helps ground the evangelists/dreamers!
9 minutes in and talking about GWAR. That is why you have Alex Roy. All the topics are going to be discussed. King of digression.
0:00 Intro
4:30 Guilty of plotting
7:08 Fast and Furious musical parody
12:52 Alex’s medical cannonball run
47:25 getting invited to the FBI academy
52:45 Le Go Fast
55:10 Baja 1000
56:06 Back to the FBI
1:00:48 Forever cars
1:09:00 Automomous car changes
1:32:40 EV classic car problems
1:49:22 Patreon Q&A
1:50:07 AV tech vote
1:52:00 Trade in Tesla?
1:53:03 Scarf for fall 2023
1:53:12 Next frontier of transportation records
1:55:35 Other cannonball runs
2:02:49 Wildest future predictions
2:04:50 Pajero Evo Manual price
2:06:40 What happened at Argo
2:08:39 Most stable car on highways
2:10:41 Changing trajectory of autonomous cars
2:13:15 Under $50k fizz
2:19:00 Thanks Alex!
A Cannonball actually took place in Europe in the early 80s (well, I think). I was a kid back then and read the story in french car mag L'auto-journal. And it stick with me since then.
The race was from Copenhagen to Marbella. The french authorities got wind of it and the head of police agreed to let them speed through France if they cross country by night, which they did. From what I recall the winner was driving some kind of Mercedes 560 SEC. I can't remember the time he did.
The thing is I can't find that issue and never find any other article or book or anything about it.
I work in general aviation maintenance and one of our biggest clients is a medical transport company with 10+ midsize jets, Bombardier Challengers mostly. Since Covid started, these guys flew more than in the prior 10+ years of operation combined, they are regularly doing around-the-world, multi-leg trips. Sometime 100+ hours per week, which is insane for a privat jet. It's about 30% seriously sick emergency patients, 30% intercontinental relocation of stable patients who need constant monitoring, 20% Organ Transplants and 20% wealthy, mobile patients who could probably take a normal plane but don't
So what?
Alex Roy, hellyeah! Always a great show when he comes by!
"When we get to the coast, shoot me into the ocean, I'm Done." Lmao
That trans continental medivac story was fascinating!!!
Moving liquid fentanyl is a funny ass line.
I've driven a many-seat large Sprinter van across Europe once. Almost empty, but boy did it GO.
Herr Roy! So excited. Been a fan since the old days.
Another great show - thanks Matt, Zack & Alex! ✅
Easily one of my favorite podcasts you've ever put out, what a great guest
I got a whole lot of evidence!
Alex Roy is always one of my favourite returning guests.
1:49:37 Alex goes for the glasses that are not there
We all know this move
Cones! I've long said that when self driving cars start bringing kids to/from school, 2 cones would suffice for a kidnapping. Or a carjack. Rip out critical GPS, tape over cams and radar with appropriate materials, and have a GREAT parts car.
Oh it’s going to be a good one
You know it’s gonna be an amazing episode whenever Alex Roy comes in 💯
1:40:30 but see that’s the problem with electric cars it takes 1000hp or in the case you are referring too is 2000hp, just to have engagement versus you can have tons of engagement with a 200hp civic si
At the very least they could give us a tiny nimble ev. But no they want us to drive enormous sedans for *safety*.
Pleasantly surprised to see the Lectric E-bikes ad.
Yep, I had a '93 Probe GT with that 2.5L 60-degree V6. I will always miss it. Mom still has a '93 Nissan NX2000 with the SR20DE. The NX was more fun to drive but the Probe had higher limits and more practicality. Both engines were great.
Alex is going soft on us.
How does this guy have these things coming onto his path? His mind seems to expect the unexpected and humorous.
As his mom always wanted it, and Alex being so amazing at manifesting cool things to happen, it all came together. I never heard of such a service either. Not sure it exists on any timeline without Alex' mom on it.
My babysitter's boyfriend in the mid 80s had a Citroën CX I think it was. In-era, kind of. From what I remember, he needed a home garage (blue collar city hood with rare garages) to kind of keep the thing going already them. Indeed a great car to hack most maintenance issues out of with a modern EV drivetrain and updated brakes, drive assist, the works. If only there were enough survivors to warrant a large production kit for it. Might as well do a whole run of complete cars with fresh coachwork.
I dont watch a lot of Alex Roy, but has anyone told him about public transportation ? He seems to ignore that.
The Volkswagen Amorak is not sold in the US because of the chicken tax, utility vehicles manufactured in Europe are subject to high import taxes
That tax is a big ole prop on the US auto manufacturers..
@mcspikesky it's not so necessary anymore since the amorak is trash. Also it did exactly what it was intended to do and brought manufacturing here.
Matt's seen GWAR? Amazing.
Awesome show!
Do you think driving when / if autonomous cars are on the road will be just like horse riding now?
I wonder, do patients on long distance medical drives no get noise cancelling headphones, or is the diesel engine just tooooo soothing to skip?
The thing with Europe, we don't do slow speed car chases. The highway police CAN DRIVE and their cars top out at 250 kph or so. You're just not getting far. Coordination between juridictions is amazing. A guy I know did a max speed run in his Porsche, 250 kph, got chased and lose the car. That's in tolerant Netherlands, mind you. You just don't do that and get away, just not happening. Helicopters are an actual thing. They're also great and locking down highways, even do it to make room for ambulances. You'll be overtake by a motor cop and brought to a stop, the ambulance gets an empty sea of tarmac to do its thing, rather than brave it out on the shoulder which in high traffic is not the place to be, especially with an exit every few km.
Always love when Alex is on
Speaking of autonomous cars, I highly recommend the corny but hilarious anime from 2000 called éX-Driver. It's an interesting take on how society would deal with rogue autonomous vehicles that have failed due to system errors or software hacking. It's a good anime for car fans, involving a Europa, Stratos, Seven, WRX...probably other cars, I can't remember.
Might driving on roads go out of style before self driving gets good enough to do away with steering wheels? eVTOL is gonna work, but sound and access might stay iffy. Saudi Arabia is building a city for 9 million people with no cars bit a single rail line and some eVTOLs.
I really wanna be supportive and watch the ads through, but you make it real hard by sticking them right before the details of this cross country ambulance cannon ball service 😅
1:41:46 I don’t think an exhaust is tricking in people into have less engagement, u being able to loudly and clearly here every change in your engine especially paired with a manual transmission fits the literal definition of what engagment is
I related some kind of way to this, my aunt passed from cancer nearly two years ago but I was the one driving her home to what I believe was her last ride.
It was a last gen Peugeot 208 diesel, probably the worst car I've driven yet and no person should have this as their final driving experience lol but... I dunno.
There's an element of the surreal to it, that I can't imagine how it must've felt to the husband riding in that ambulance with his wife who passed, my aunt was only in her 40s and doing chemo...
It must've been brutal. But it did get me thinking about this, maybe why I felt it was a bit more important and why that memory sticks out.
I can certainly see why the crew do it is what I'm saying; love the podcasts with Alex Roy
Very true, I worked as an ambulance driver and with terminal or non critical patients who knew this was their last journey it's hard. But sometimes it was for the family to spend time outside of the hospital one last time.
Hahah had 3 Ford probes loved them. Pos but still thought there were rad asf
The miss is Art Morrison/Roadster is not using the MK60 abs stand alone for the aftermarket restomod chassis
"A lot of evidence"
dang, is Matt on the Ozempic? he lookin thin!
A self driving car breaks down on an overpass. What does it do? If there is a slope, will it coast and steer to the side? The grid lock from self driving cars, when there are enough of them, is going to be beyond crippling. Terrorists are going to loooooove self driving cars. What fun to make with that.
2:04:21 plot line for a new cannonball movie
Simon Weckert took 99 second hand smart phones in a cart behind his bike. Creating a Google traffic jam in Berlin diverting cars away from where he was riding
This one was much different from the Joseph Lawrence episode.
Thought it was Jeff Bezos 😂
Hearing Alex and Matt mispronounce Rimac must be nails on a chalkboard for Zack. I know it was for me....
Matt was being nice to his guest. It would make no sense to correct Alex as not only does it have nothing to do with his argument, it would distract from it.
To move sht across country, just have a proper back story for the team and be DECKED OUT to hit some sports event, music festival, geek convention, whatever people actually put way too much effort to go it. Have one person in the team with zero stamps in passport from flying, that person is TERRIFIED of flying and won't be needled to sleep it out either. Friends stick together, so a drive it is. With a really sick person, you have a sad story, last ever holiday for them. Sick person gets to leave a hefty inheritance to family, and get a road casino backstory to justify it. It's was magic.
Note to self: good thing I turn into a shaking leaf when I get close to doing anything naughty. I'm an evil mastermind the world lucked out of.
Am I the only who gets the feeling that Alex talks a lot while saying nothing?
At 2:06:40 for example he's asked what happened at Argo yet his answer has nothing to do with anything.
I don't even know what he was trying to say.
He was deflecting. Did mention Argo once..
Arent these recorded days in advance? Where are the timestamps?
I voluntarily do the time stamps for Matt and Zack. Seeing the ad free show ahead of time obviously changes the time stamps so I have to wait until the show is posted then so this on my own time. Almost done with these 👍
Citroën SM/DS would be good EV swap. Quirky futuristic and engine was dog shit. Or old huge cadillacs. Floaty and heavy dynamics suited for batteries.
Gotta run those hydro pumps, thirsty I imagine
Sorry Matt, with that opinion on EV restomods you're not getting Iron Man on your show 😀
He's really down with the guilt trip virtue signaling, made a whole series about it. I could barely watch.
Late 20th century Bentleys and Rolls Royce’s being converted to electric would be great.
Those engines are great but way too unreliable and way too complicated
On restomods. To SOME or MOST people, a given car may be all about the drivetrain. Say, a Lexus LFA. Most people who know what that car is, will agree. But there is going to be someone for whom that LFA is a piece of art, and they can't deal with loudness (I dislike loudness personally, am sentive). So they might butcher the LFA, or find one that has been pre-butchered by a moron who revved it to show off until it died and presented him with an unimaginable repair bill. Car gets to live, engine can't realistically be saved. So you toss in some EV drivetrain. No longer a need for it to be a Tesla unit either.
I am OBSESSED with the Ariel Nomad, but I want exactly that kind of car to explore the countryside and peaceful villages. That engines is effing LOUD and obnoxious. What do I do, throw on a 1.0 VW or Ford unit in stead, will that fix it completely? Rally cars now come with 30 kWh AW drivetrains. Just about perfect. I don't need to win the Baha 1000 on a single charge. Just do a little dusting around a province for a few hours. And if I can also hit a rally stage and totally keep up...YES PLEASE.
A self driving car failing goes from inconvenience to safety issue REAL QUICK when a pregnant lady is to be within a few blocks of the problem, any police/ambulance/fire truck needs to come through, etc, etc. A person, however dispicable, gets out of the way in a matter of seconds. A second driving cars, or a clusster eff of them, will just sit there. Until eventually someone decide to program that problem away. I predicted the cone problem, and it came to be. Someone did NOT think of that and program it away. Can people, and especially publically traded companies, be trusted to effect clear ahead thinking? Even at supermarkets I see major eff ups that can get NASTY for all involved. Now scale the risks to metropole traffic and cars that are self driving or made to look that way. A terrorist can now make a fake self driving car, radio control it and do whatever they like. And it would not be noticed, because I'm telling you, *I* think of corner cases, but won't bet a penny a privately traded self driving car maker will until a criminal comes up with the same thing. Self driving cars are just the opening of the gates to gell, and they're waiting for criminals to present them with all the failure modes to eventually program around, maybe.
I find it so hilarious that Tesla did NOT get any of these self driving contracts, and is still stuck in Level 2. Various brands getting into level 3.
Elon's megalomania and eagerness to lie and self sabotage by over-promising is starting to trickle into mainstream consciousness.
time stamps
0:00 - 2:19:09 : alex roy acts mildly pretentious
I take offense.
*while doing lip and mouth noises into the microphone
I can't stand the guy. He's so cocky, and for what?
An insult to first responders..., crazy thing to say for a guy who made his Cannonball Audi to look like a cop car
typical elitist wokesters
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Forget which autonomous vehicle company, but the cars were constantly being stumped by box trucks or vehicles stopped and taking up lanes in San Francisco.
I remember finally getting out of the blocked lane seeing the car stuck behind the truck unloading. After finding parking, ended up passing by and the car was still waiting.
They’ve been testing around where my mom lives in the Bay Area for a long time, and their rate of travel combined with false positive reasons to stop randomly are extremely frustrating to be stuck behind. Especially when there are two to three running in a line so it’s hard to pass safely or when they end up taking parallel lanes are trapping traffic behind them going well under the natural pace of the roadway.
The sidewalk delivery robots encountering an autonomous car are a whole other kind of chaos resulting in zero movement.
Why don't we come up with a system that can automatically guide blind people first. And when we've got solid progress on that, think about moving on to automating the movement of heavy objects moving at speed. You know, try walking before running.