The new battle pass bring almost no value for new player for helping grind and the weapon is not very interesting if we are not all at the end of the russian tech tree. And the camo are a clear downgrade from the gold order vehicle that have a camo and a vehicle
I still used gold vehicle orders on faction I have unlocked everything. As a way a to get a fully upgraded tank. Gold vehicle orders could be worth over 40,000 silver to players, cost of buying and fully upgrading a vehicle. You could even sale vehicles and replace them with gold order ones, if you need silver. The camos are worth zero. Worse part about removing the gold vehicle orders as rewards, is the lack of player choice.
Nice try on the positive spin, but no cigar for me. Good vid but....This is the first battle pass I'll be skipping in a long time. I don't care about paint.. I cant even see it and I have so many PPSH's I cant even count.
i just use the battlepass gold from the previous, im not a big fan of the new PPSH but at least i get a ton of silver which i can use to save up for when the lootbox returns to get some event squads
I hear you but, at least for me, I use my piloting skills to average usually 3k to 5k silver per game. I think I calculated BP gives 45000 silver...not totally sure. Meaning, using vehicles well can equate to BP gold in as little as 10 missions. BP changes are not great. I don't do skins and want to pick my guns and men. I think the rewards your describing are okay for new players but vets already own most items. Gold tickets was fun because there were unique "choices". Peace
It’s fine for me as I play all nations and all brs plus there will be more regular content. Many a time I’ve waited 3 months for the next pass and bought nothing from it. I think this system will be improved with even more unique items per pass and you might not want the weapons now but in 6 months you may regret it. If you play the game regular it’s a no brainer to get the pass as you get the gold back anyway plus’s all the silver / appearance weapon upgrades etc by just playing like normal.
As a player that transplanted from WoT, I am very familiar with this style of season pass. You earn your levels, and you get set rewards for them. That is fine, and in all actuality, this new set up is cheaper and earns much more per year than the old BP. With earning an extra 100 gold back, theyre paying us to do a BP. That said, there were alot of benefits to the gold order system. Players could choose their poison. New players could buy low BR weapons, veterans could get high BR. Same with vehicles. Gold order vehicles were fully upgraded, saving players thousands in silver. If one is say, a German main, they could buy all the vehicles, weapons and troops from their faction. Now, if the BP is a faction you dont play, its useless items in your garage. So while I personally dont mind the change because, aside from IJA, I can and do field teams from all factions and BRs, some dont or cant, so I can fully understand why they are upset.
i bought last battle pass, I dont think I'll be buying it again as a veteran player; since it doesnt give you gold order tickets that allow you to pick what you want with them.
How long it took you to farm one research tree? Like germany research from 0 to the end, unlocking everything on it. I'm pretty new and I got until mp38 on the german research and was wondering how long will take to unlock all weapons there.
I unlocked 95% of the stuff back in old campaign system, it was very different. We didn't have tech tree like now, so it's not really possible to compare it sadly.
There are a lot of factors at play. Assuming you're F2P and don't use Premium, the biggest things that are going to affect how quickly you progress is your own performance in matches and how much you win (even if you do use Premium that doesn't change). The better you do, the higher your score will be, and the more XP you'll gain. Earning commendation medals after the battle adds an XP multiplier starting a 1.2x for one, and then an additional 0.1 per medal up to 1.5x. Winning if you're not playing with Join Any Faction turned on gives you a bonus of 1.5x, 1.8x if it is on, however even if you lose with Join Any Faction on you'll still get a 1.5x bonus. So let's compare two games. You win Game 1, it lasts about 20 minutes, you play aggressively and get 100 k-lls, destroy 6 vehicles, build rallies, get around 50 objective k-lls, and help cap the objective a few times. You end up with a base XP of about 5000. Since you performed well, you got enough commendation medals to get the full XP multiplier, so now that 5000 XP turns into 7500 XP. Then, since you won without having Join Any Faction, you get another 1.5x multiplier, so that 7500 XP turns into 11,250 XP/research points. In Game 2, you play really slowly and don't run into many enemies so you don't get many kills. You also don't build a rally point, and your team ends up losing. After 20 minutes you end up with like 30 k-lls, no vehicles destroyed, no engineering points, a handful of objective k-lls, and no zone captures. You end up with, I guess, something like 2000 base XP. Since you didn't win, weren't joining any faction, and got no commendations, that's your final research point total for that match. So how long it'll take you to unlock everything is going to highly depend on how good you are and how much you win. Sheesh, UA-cam censorship just deleting my comments...
I am a new player and I just completed researching the Axis tech tree. I am playing and logging in 115 days in a row now since started. probably play around 2 hours a day average, only have premium account from new year so about 100days of grind without premium acc, I also play other nations here and there to slowly research them and they are mostly researched up to br2. I have around 250k free xp on axis, so it could have been faster, in my case
BP still has insane value. But it's definitely way worse than previous format with gold orders. Plus the first purchase everyone should make is to buy 1 year of premium account during the sales for just 20 bucks.
I am a br 2 new player and I only play Germans. They should have added a br 2 gold order weapon. Since br 2 is quite fun for everyone and there won’t be any problems. But a br 5 weapon, not that great.
What the snail is doing is testing the waters they gave us camos to replace the gold order weapons and vehicles where again thats free those gold orders alowed anyone f2p or somone who pays to play the game its free ans some of the weapons and vehicles that you can buy with them are good they are just putting a price tag on them to get those past battle pass weapons its fomo
Stop yapping about new BP, its suck Even before it suck. You just wasting money to get PNG skin and nothing to do with outcome of the game and yeah GG. Old BP is clearly better than rn. Less reward = same price Downfall enlisted
Your math is way off. The battlepass costs the same as it did before, and you not only get your gold back, you earn an extra 100. Now with 30 day BP, there will be more of them per year, people are saying 10. So in less than a year, you will earn back all the gold you initially invested in BP, making it free from that point. You will also get 4 weapons, 2 troops, and apparently 2 skins per pass. Thatll be 40 weapons, 20 troops, and 20 skins by years end. Remind me how many gold orders we were earning in the old BP? Maybe 12 per year? 15? So, free= more than triple the reward.
Seems to be like the War Thunder battlepass. Removing the battlepass vehicles solders and vehicles for purchase and funneling all new players into the new battlepass is detrimental to new players. This cuts down on the games maintenance and seems to acknowledge the player drop as in they are giving up. It makes the game more boring for new players not being able to choose battlepass items.
I like the Battle Pass Change ...but its sad that i cant get Golden Cards to get some funny weapons like the Handheld Morter
but as the devs said, those wil return in events and other things
The new battle pass bring almost no value for new player for helping grind and the weapon is not very interesting if we are not all at the end of the russian tech tree. And the camo are a clear downgrade from the gold order vehicle that have a camo and a vehicle
I still used gold vehicle orders on faction I have unlocked everything. As a way a to get a fully upgraded tank. Gold vehicle orders could be worth over 40,000 silver to players, cost of buying and fully upgrading a vehicle. You could even sale vehicles and replace them with gold order ones, if you need silver. The camos are worth zero. Worse part about removing the gold vehicle orders as rewards, is the lack of player choice.
"i like PPSHs because i like BigMacs" how does that make any sense Mr. Starks!?!? 🤭
Nice try on the positive spin, but no cigar for me. Good vid but....This is the first battle pass I'll be skipping in a long time. I don't care about paint.. I cant even see it and I have so many PPSH's I cant even count.
left with the free gold. (:
i just use the battlepass gold from the previous, im not a big fan of the new PPSH but at least i get a ton of silver which i can use to save up for when the lootbox returns to get some event squads
I hear you but, at least for me, I use my piloting skills to average usually 3k to 5k silver per game. I think I calculated BP gives 45000 silver...not totally sure. Meaning, using vehicles well can equate to BP gold in as little as 10 missions. BP changes are not great. I don't do skins and want to pick my guns and men. I think the rewards your describing are okay for new players but vets already own most items. Gold tickets was fun because there were unique "choices". Peace
It’s fine for me as I play all nations and all brs plus there will be more regular content. Many a time I’ve waited 3 months for the next pass and bought nothing from it.
I think this system will be improved with even more unique items per pass and you might not want the weapons now but in 6 months you may regret it.
If you play the game regular it’s a no brainer to get the pass as you get the gold back anyway plus’s all the silver / appearance weapon upgrades etc by just playing like normal.
As a player that transplanted from WoT, I am very familiar with this style of season pass. You earn your levels, and you get set rewards for them. That is fine, and in all actuality, this new set up is cheaper and earns much more per year than the old BP. With earning an extra 100 gold back, theyre paying us to do a BP.
That said, there were alot of benefits to the gold order system. Players could choose their poison. New players could buy low BR weapons, veterans could get high BR. Same with vehicles. Gold order vehicles were fully upgraded, saving players thousands in silver. If one is say, a German main, they could buy all the vehicles, weapons and troops from their faction. Now, if the BP is a faction you dont play, its useless items in your garage. So while I personally dont mind the change because, aside from IJA, I can and do field teams from all factions and BRs, some dont or cant, so I can fully understand why they are upset.
i bought last battle pass, I dont think I'll be buying it again as a veteran player; since it doesnt give you gold order tickets that allow you to pick what you want with them.
I've been in the army for the past o9 months and I don't get to play often so I've never been able to complete a Battlepass yet
You can now, I am too and I completed it in 2 cosistent play weeks
i think the changes are very good, needed foe the game
How long it took you to farm one research tree? Like germany research from 0 to the end, unlocking everything on it. I'm pretty new and I got until mp38 on the german research and was wondering how long will take to unlock all weapons there.
I unlocked 95% of the stuff back in old campaign system, it was very different. We didn't have tech tree like now, so it's not really possible to compare it sadly.
There are a lot of factors at play. Assuming you're F2P and don't use Premium, the biggest things that are going to affect how quickly you progress is your own performance in matches and how much you win (even if you do use Premium that doesn't change).
The better you do, the higher your score will be, and the more XP you'll gain. Earning commendation medals after the battle adds an XP multiplier starting a 1.2x for one, and then an additional 0.1 per medal up to 1.5x. Winning if you're not playing with Join Any Faction turned on gives you a bonus of 1.5x, 1.8x if it is on, however even if you lose with Join Any Faction on you'll still get a 1.5x bonus.
So let's compare two games. You win Game 1, it lasts about 20 minutes, you play aggressively and get 100 k-lls, destroy 6 vehicles, build rallies, get around 50 objective k-lls, and help cap the objective a few times. You end up with a base XP of about 5000. Since you performed well, you got enough commendation medals to get the full XP multiplier, so now that 5000 XP turns into 7500 XP. Then, since you won without having Join Any Faction, you get another 1.5x multiplier, so that 7500 XP turns into 11,250 XP/research points.
In Game 2, you play really slowly and don't run into many enemies so you don't get many kills. You also don't build a rally point, and your team ends up losing. After 20 minutes you end up with like 30 k-lls, no vehicles destroyed, no engineering points, a handful of objective k-lls, and no zone captures. You end up with, I guess, something like 2000 base XP. Since you didn't win, weren't joining any faction, and got no commendations, that's your final research point total for that match.
So how long it'll take you to unlock everything is going to highly depend on how good you are and how much you win. Sheesh, UA-cam censorship just deleting my comments...
I am a new player and I just completed researching the Axis tech tree. I am playing and logging in 115 days in a row now since started. probably play around 2 hours a day average, only have premium account from new year so about 100days of grind without premium acc, I also play other nations here and there to slowly research them and they are mostly researched up to br2. I have around 250k free xp on axis, so it could have been faster, in my case
BP still has insane value. But it's definitely way worse than previous format with gold orders.
Plus the first purchase everyone should make is to buy 1 year of premium account during the sales for just 20 bucks.
I am a br 2 new player and I only play Germans. They should have added a br 2 gold order weapon. Since br 2 is quite fun for everyone and there won’t be any problems. But a br 5 weapon, not that great.
Do you still get boosters once u complete the battlepass
Yes
Yes!
Really good Information
I just need the silver and boosters lol. Got japan to grind out 100% left. That tokyo arsenal rips. But still need tanks and planes for japan
Darkflow what are ya doin buddy?
What the snail is doing is testing the waters they gave us camos to replace the gold order weapons and vehicles where again thats free those gold orders alowed anyone f2p or somone who pays to play the game its free ans some of the weapons and vehicles that you can buy with them are good they are just putting a price tag on them to get those past battle pass weapons its fomo
It’s not bad if you get 100 free gold :)
Stop yapping about new BP, its suck
Even before it suck.
You just wasting money to get PNG skin and nothing to do with outcome of the game and yeah GG.
Old BP is clearly better than rn.
Less reward = same price
Downfall enlisted
RiP
Your math is way off. The battlepass costs the same as it did before, and you not only get your gold back, you earn an extra 100. Now with 30 day BP, there will be more of them per year, people are saying 10. So in less than a year, you will earn back all the gold you initially invested in BP, making it free from that point. You will also get 4 weapons, 2 troops, and apparently 2 skins per pass. Thatll be 40 weapons, 20 troops, and 20 skins by years end. Remind me how many gold orders we were earning in the old BP? Maybe 12 per year? 15? So, free= more than triple the reward.
new battlepass is scam.
Seems to be like the War Thunder battlepass. Removing the battlepass vehicles solders and vehicles for purchase and funneling all new players into the new battlepass is detrimental to new players. This cuts down on the games maintenance and seems to acknowledge the player drop as in they are giving up. It makes the game more boring for new players not being able to choose battlepass items.