The T-34 is not as good as you think it is

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  • Опубліковано 23 гру 2021
  • In his worst multi-award seeking documentary to date, unemployed schizophreniac, and low-tier UA-camr Lazerpig invites us on a journey into the mystical realms of WWII's greatest myths. In this episode, we concentrate on the T-34 Tank, a legend in its own right, forged in the very fires of Soviet Russia by the hands of Stalin himself.
    This tank brought the Germans to their knees, vastly superior to all their pathetic tanks with its revolutionary sloped armor and wide tracks it erupted in great unlimited waves which crashed down into Germany and ended the hopes and dreams of Tiny Tash Man and his Third Reich.
    Or did it?
    Does the T-34 deserve the Legend it has become or is it all a fabrication in the minds of Soviet Russia's own version of the wehraboo. The great, mythical Commieboo.
    Come with me on a journey into the unknown, but be warned, the truth may not be what you expect.
    Credits:
    Suburbs of Moscow 1-5 - VK.com & Epidemic Sound Publishing
    Booty - Jetpack Superheros ( • Jetpack Superheroes - ... )
    Alan Aztec - Bad Girl ( • Alan Aztec - Bad Girl ... )
    Katyusha | Epic Orchestral Cover - Kamikaze ( • KATYUSHA | Epic Orches... )
    Warthunder footage by Gaming with Ender ( / @ender15 )
    Sources:
    Panzer Tracts No. 19-2: Beute-Panzerkampfwagen by Thomas L. Jentz
    (www.amazon.co.uk/PANZER-TRACT...)
    T-34 Mythical Weapon by Robert Michulec
    (www.amazon.com/T-34-Mythical-...)
    T-34/85 Medium Tank 1944-45’ and ‘T-34-85 vs M26 Pershing’ by Steven J. Zaloga (www.amazon.co.uk/Books-Steven...)
    Tankovy udar. Sovetskie tanki v boyakh. 1942-1943 by A Isaev (www.amazon.com/Tankovy-udar-S...)
    Engineering Analysis of The Russian T34/85 Tank (www.scribd.com/document/23067...)
    Неизвестный Т-34 (Unknown T-34) by I. Zheltov, M. Pavlov, I. Pavlov, A. Sergeev, A. Solyankin (www.ozon.ru/product/neizvestn...)
    Once Again About the T-34 by Boris Kavalerchik
    (www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/1...)
    Soviet Casualties and Combat Losses in the Twentieth Century by G.F. Krivosheev (Editor), John Erickson (Foreword), Christine Barnard (Translator) (www.amazon.co.uk/Soviet-Casua...)
    Sherman prices: web.inter.nl.net/users/spoelst...
    You can give me money with the link below and I legally have to spend it on coffee
    www.buymeacoffee.com/LazerPig
    #WW2 #SovietHistory #Tanks #T34

КОМЕНТАРІ • 13 тис.

  • @TheMr5x
    @TheMr5x 2 роки тому +11837

    "Logistics was secondary to everything else, and it was forgotten that men in tanks need food, fuel and ammo." Wow so nothing has changed with russian military practices in 81 years lmao
    Edit: Cry more Z nerds

    • @a_ghost8926
      @a_ghost8926 2 роки тому +544

      Exactly what I was thinking

    • @gaychampagnesocialist7213
      @gaychampagnesocialist7213 2 роки тому +620

      From the Winter War to today, nothing has changed.

    • @kirknay
      @kirknay 2 роки тому +452

      aged like fine wine, if you ask me.

    • @TheMr5x
      @TheMr5x 2 роки тому +76

      @@kirknay the russian military has aged like fine wine?

    • @kirknay
      @kirknay 2 роки тому +427

      @@TheMr5x the comment from a few months ago about logistics failings.

  • @isabelleclavering4397
    @isabelleclavering4397 Рік тому +12108

    I feel like there's a joke in here somewhere about T34s being so angled because of all the corners that were cut.

    • @michaelbuehler3897
      @michaelbuehler3897 Рік тому +1027

      " T34s being so angled because of all the corners that were cut "
      That's a good one.

    • @fauxtool952
      @fauxtool952 Рік тому +562

      smooth like the designer's brain

    • @luskvideoproductions869
      @luskvideoproductions869 Рік тому +166

      You just made it, mission accomplished lol!!

    • @FrederikEngelmand
      @FrederikEngelmand Рік тому +56

      @@fauxtool952 HAH!

    • @cantfindagoodname.211
      @cantfindagoodname.211 Рік тому

      @@fauxtool952 the designer was good, and the t 34 has a good design, exceptat that YOU CANT FU****G FIT IN IT. JESUS CHRIST, MAKE IT A BIT TALLER.

  • @jac1207
    @jac1207 10 місяців тому +3300

    "logistics were an afterthought"
    A proud 80+ years tradition for the Russian military!

    • @moklium
      @moklium 9 місяців тому +29

      Lmao

    • @vedamirinfinum6239
      @vedamirinfinum6239 8 місяців тому +76

      🤫 Why, let them continue that tradition 😁

    • @andyfriederichsen
      @andyfriederichsen 8 місяців тому +18

      It was an issue back then and now. I don't think logistics were this bad during much of the Cold War.

    • @pooshoveler
      @pooshoveler 8 місяців тому

      ROFL

    • @Thought_Processing_
      @Thought_Processing_ 8 місяців тому +41

      That is a centuries old tradition.

  • @supersoldier8629
    @supersoldier8629 Рік тому +1502

    I dont understand how any one can think that the T-34 never got stuck. My father served in the soviet army, and told me that tank crews would literally carry logs with them, to help get tanks out of mud and snow

    • @martenkahr3365
      @martenkahr3365 11 місяців тому +165

      I believe the thinking goes like "Something Something the tank logs were just brilliant Soviet innovation of spaced armor for vulnerable sides. Way cheaper and just as effective as silly metal sheets of the Germans or the heavy sandbags the Americans put on Shermans. Robust Soviet Engineering Best Engineering!"

    • @supersoldier8629
      @supersoldier8629 11 місяців тому +96

      @martenkahr3365 I can unfortunately envision someone saying something like that.

    • @lennartj.8072
      @lennartj.8072 11 місяців тому +142

      @@martenkahr3365 I thought the soviet solution to spaced armor was infantry riding on the sides

    • @danlorett2184
      @danlorett2184 10 місяців тому +76

      @@lennartj.8072 Soviet spaced armor is the tank next to you

    • @Ytekai_
      @Ytekai_ 10 місяців тому +1

      Same here.

  • @newperve
    @newperve 2 роки тому +2941

    "Diesel does catch fire, shut up."
    You mean a fuel that specifically designed to be burnt, burns?

    • @kagtkalem7115
      @kagtkalem7115 2 роки тому +159

      You need some effort to ignite diesel whereas petrol can be ignited easily with a match

    • @acemarvel1564
      @acemarvel1564 2 роки тому +16

      This video was clearly targeted towards idiots pretending to be the high school history teacher

    • @mintgoldheart6126
      @mintgoldheart6126 2 роки тому +37

      Did you know that diesel won't catch fire easily, obviously show it a hot enough flame and it'll ignite, but this won't be how you get efficiency out of it.

    • @kagtkalem7115
      @kagtkalem7115 2 роки тому

      @Shy Cracker what

    • @jiggy6486
      @jiggy6486 2 роки тому +122

      It does, however, have a significantly higher flashpoint (55° C) than gasoline (flash point in the realms of below 0°C). This means you would have to heat up the *bulk* of the fuel volume before it even starts to consider burning.
      It burns, but it's nowhere near as immediate as gasoline (assuming they are both at ambient conditions). This is why diesel engines compress the hell out of the fuel-air mixture instead of trying to directly ignite it. (P is directly proportional to T and all that fancy stuff)
      Not arguing with the video or anyone else just wanted to point that out.

  • @peterb2272
    @peterb2272 Рік тому +2527

    "..they were quickly abandoned by their crew when they broke down, ran out of ammo or fuel ...."
    Wait, are we still talking about WW2 here?

    • @TPE429
      @TPE429 Рік тому +297

      Things never changed it just got fancier and propaganda 💀

    • @americankid7782
      @americankid7782 Рік тому +109

      The biggest change is that it’s easier to spot nowdays

    • @pokerone6489
      @pokerone6489 Рік тому

      I'm surprised you have enough air to breath with as much as you're all sucking off Zelenski. You must enjoy funding his Nazi battalions with your tax payer dollars whilst paying nearly twice as much for everything back home, all as he shuffles from country to country too busy to put on a fucking suit, begging for more x, y and Z. The latter of which he is recieving plenty of at the moment :)
      But hey, maybe Ukrainian cheerleading is a Gay-British thing. I don't know. Either way, it can't be the Russians are completely inept. If they were we would've joined the war! Instead we pay for it and dance around the proposition on the sidelines, pretending we are the "good guys". We have quite literally learned nothing in the West. We've never faced an existential crisis, we've never fought a true war, we've never learned how dangerous propaganda is, unless of course it's *other* countries propaganda. We are fat, stupid, arrogant, and horribly out of touch with most things outside of our bubble. You stand on the graves of your ancestors (actual, real men) and proclaim moral superiority, despite not being worth enough to even stand on the soil of your own countries.
      "Oh Z-nerd, Russian troll, (insert deflection here). Go ahead and get that shit out of the way so we can address some of these points. War is about those who laugh last. Ask the Taliban.

    • @TPE429
      @TPE429 Рік тому +33

      @@pokerone6489 aren't you surprised you have Internet and using UA-cam because of the west??

    • @peterb2272
      @peterb2272 Рік тому +37

      @@pokerone6489 Woop woop. Clear the area everyone. We are in danger of a critical melt down event. Woop oop.

  • @grzegorzborek7092
    @grzegorzborek7092 10 місяців тому +1684

    T-34 has inspired a Polish idiom: "przejebane jak w ruskim czołgu" meaning "you're as fucked, as someone inside a russian tank". It was based on crew experiences from WW2 and is in use to this day.

    • @amatthew1231
      @amatthew1231 10 місяців тому

      I have a feeling it won't stop being used any time soon, because of (((reasons)))

    • @SaltyChickenDip
      @SaltyChickenDip 10 місяців тому +60

      Lol. Still true.

    • @ajc0072
      @ajc0072 9 місяців тому +91

      @@SaltyChickenDip Indeed. I mean, the driver hatch of the "modern" T14 armata is... hydraulically sealed?!

    • @keenancollett6465
      @keenancollett6465 9 місяців тому +21

      I hope you don't mind if I steal that saying for my personal day to day use

    • @FedkaSlovanich
      @FedkaSlovanich 9 місяців тому +12

      @@ajc0072one got blown up in ukraine last month (they expect only 5 are still in existence) sabot round from a leopard went through the front and out the back of the engine.

  • @bahamut256
    @bahamut256 6 місяців тому +221

    There is a story I read in a German WWII veterans autobiography about being surprised by a seemingly lost t34 which appeared on their left. They thought they were dead, but strangely the t34 apparently could not see them, despite their tank being completely in the open and continued to drive without reacting to a tank in front of it on open ground, allowing them time to bring their gun around and destroy it.
    The speculation among the German crews mentioned in the book was that the t-34 crews were taught to button up at all times, so unless a tank literally drove in front of the gunners sight, they would have no idea it was there.

    • @Wolfspaine7N6
      @Wolfspaine7N6 4 місяці тому +12

      I don’t know about Soviet tanks, but German tanks have a hatch on top of the turret that has small windows on all sides.

    • @fidjeenjanrjsnsfh
      @fidjeenjanrjsnsfh 4 місяці тому +15

      The Door Knocker myth stems from this.
      A 37mm PaK, which has no way of penetrating a T-34 was shooting it dozens of times. The T-34 was turning its turret around trying to find the PaK until a round hit the turret ring a f the T-34 retreated.

    • @4T3hM4kr0n
      @4T3hM4kr0n 3 місяці тому +5

      @@Wolfspaine7N6 thats called a "commander's cupola" and all tanks have them (well most of them)

    • @sirrathersplendid4825
      @sirrathersplendid4825 3 місяці тому +4

      @@4T3hM4kr0n- Many of the tanks available in 1939/40/41 still had vision slits set at various points around the turret sometimes protected by an inch or two of removable ballistic glass. This was true for the Germans, Poles, French and the Russians. The Poles in fact had one of the most innovative vision systems in the Gundlach periscope, which was copied by the Russians and later sold back to the Poles under a different name.

    • @4T3hM4kr0n
      @4T3hM4kr0n 3 місяці тому +1

      @@sirrathersplendid4825this is about the commanders cupola, not vision slits around the sides of the tank

  • @fuzzydunlop7928
    @fuzzydunlop7928 2 роки тому +5752

    I absolutely love the irony of Barbarossa - when things get underway, Soviet logistics is fucked but as the Germans advance they inadvertently shorten and simplify Soviet logistics while putting more and more stress on their own supply capabilities. They helpfully stuck their head into the noose and waited patiently for the Soviets to kick the wood out from under them.

    • @vincentfegley6068
      @vincentfegley6068 2 роки тому +351

      I never thought about this. Great observation, thinking about it now I completely agree.

    • @gms80sixtreme
      @gms80sixtreme 2 роки тому +66

      however, the same thing didn't happened to the soviets when they advanced, so how come you say soviet logistic was bad?

    • @vincentfegley6068
      @vincentfegley6068 2 роки тому +160

      You gotta remember the germans were fighting a stupid idiot war that they caused by picking a fight with almost every major industrial power. They got outproduced by the allies and were running low on manpower. Ww2 was unwinnable from the german side from the beginning.

    • @ndimenhlemoyo2718
      @ndimenhlemoyo2718 2 роки тому +542

      @@gms80sixtreme the front gets shorter in length as you move towards Berlin. The infrastructure also gets better. The weather gets better too

    • @matchlockashigaru9755
      @matchlockashigaru9755 2 роки тому +420

      @@gms80sixtreme american trucks

  • @revanofkorriban1505
    @revanofkorriban1505 2 роки тому +2206

    I believe the issue with the T-34's optics stemmed from the optics-making factory being overrun in 1941.

    • @LazerPig
      @LazerPig  2 роки тому +962

      That makes sense.

    • @panzerofthelake506
      @panzerofthelake506 2 роки тому +338

      You know just Soviet Union things.

    • @copudesado
      @copudesado 2 роки тому +241

      Furthermore, the Soviets imported a significant amount of optics from Germany. Though this was optics in general, I don't know whether it was the T34 optics specifically or not.

    • @Zeknif1
      @Zeknif1 2 роки тому +107

      They should have produced more mk.I optics for the tanks by ripping them straight from the skulls of the Germans.

    • @russianfloppa2325
      @russianfloppa2325 2 роки тому +17

      sounds like a rather minor inconvenience

  • @michaelquevedo8902
    @michaelquevedo8902 Рік тому +227

    For some reason the delivery of "Wot's a tank? is it like a tren?" is fucking perfect, makes me laugh like a lunatic every time

  • @amatthew1231
    @amatthew1231 10 місяців тому +401

    This video has given me a new found respect for the Sherman, mass produced but didn't produce mass death for her crew.

    • @thefirstkingdogo1126
      @thefirstkingdogo1126 9 місяців тому +8

      Well, you could have changed the production to Jumbos wich armor from the front ( exsect some small weak spots) was almost invisible from German cats.
      It's gun a bit less but great for infantry support.

    • @staanislaw
      @staanislaw 9 місяців тому +35

      @@thefirstkingdogo1126 many of US Tanks were supporting infraintry most of time

    • @ScrapMetalPanda
      @ScrapMetalPanda 9 місяців тому +15

      The sherman was a fine tank despite its propensity for it to catch on fire after being sneezed at the engineers at least made it easy to get out of
      A feature I'm sure was very much appreciated by its crews 😊

    • @jamesbisset9891
      @jamesbisset9891 8 місяців тому +45

      The Sherman wasn't more likely to go on fire then any other tank that is a myth.

    • @martinjrgensen8234
      @martinjrgensen8234 7 місяців тому +17

      The Sherman was an excellent tank. Look into why it turned out the way it did, and American military procurrment, and you come away with huge respect for the Sherman

  • @USBearForce
    @USBearForce Рік тому +2126

    The M4 Sherman and T-34 were both designed under the principle that its crew would be dead before the vehicle wore out and needed major repairs.
    The difference is that the American crew was expected to be dead of old age.

    • @mannimut1721
      @mannimut1721 Рік тому +310

      Had us in the First half not gonna lie

    • @Rogbet1
      @Rogbet1 10 місяців тому

      I ruined the 69 likes

    • @michaelusswisconsin6002
      @michaelusswisconsin6002 10 місяців тому +85

      The M4 Sherman was actually decent in reliability and quality.

    • @stukablyat7136
      @stukablyat7136 10 місяців тому +88

      @@michaelusswisconsin6002🤦‍♂️

    • @GrueTurtle
      @GrueTurtle 10 місяців тому +23

      @@michaelusswisconsin6002
      serious?

  • @channelname3
    @channelname3 Рік тому +3845

    The Bob Semple had the best sloped armour. It had about 20 slopes per square metre.

    • @__-ic7si
      @__-ic7si Рік тому +233

      ikr! best tank ever, its such a shame nobody talks about it... awesome gun, suspension, armor, and a physics breaking amount of size inside of it.

    • @andreatomasi3755
      @andreatomasi3755 Рік тому +389

      No bob sample were ever lost. That is the prove that bob sample is the superior tank

    • @natashaeliot3628
      @natashaeliot3628 Рік тому +88

      the speed was astonishing

    • @arklados3596
      @arklados3596 Рік тому +75

      It is the god-emperor of tanks

    • @tosijjaan
      @tosijjaan Рік тому +20

      Brilliant

  • @RaderizDorret
    @RaderizDorret 6 місяців тому +132

    After the video at the Tank Museum, now I'm just picturing Lazerpig making these claims while wearing WWI French Officer drip.

    • @RCM1212
      @RCM1212 4 місяці тому +4

      Same

    • @chedrw
      @chedrw 2 місяці тому

      Now I cant stop thinking about a pig in a bright blue uniform with red trousers now..

  • @BumroyV2
    @BumroyV2 11 місяців тому +711

    "The T-34 was not a cheap tank mass produced in infinite waves. It was a costly tank manufactured cheaply."
    Like many parts of this video, those sentences reminded me of the C&Rsenal video about the Mosin Nagant. They mention that people think the Mosin is a simple gun because they're so common, but the reality is it's a decently complicated design that happened to be produced in the tens of millions.

    • @ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle
      @ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle 9 місяців тому +46

      To play Devil's advocate, mass production and simplicity don't always go hand in hand. Look at cellphones, which are quite complicated yet are still mass-produced.
      Now that said, the T-34 was absolutely a cheap piece of crap

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 7 місяців тому +2

      Question which production run? As pre Soviet ones while produced in high numbers were of really good quality equal to the German equivalent. Post Soviet ones on the other hand are gun versions of T34s.

    • @kungfuskull
      @kungfuskull 4 місяці тому +7

      ​@@barrybend7189 if you mean soviet revolution, then yeah, that's pretty accurate. I was always surprised the imperial russian version managed to be both well-made and fairly cheaply made; post-rev it was *only* cheaply made.

    • @ottovonbearsmark8876
      @ottovonbearsmark8876 3 місяці тому

      @@barrybend7189 even well made mosins have a lot of built in “slop” inherent to the design. As op mentioned, C&rsenal covers it well in their video. Mausers and Enfields just have better designed actions overall. Enough to make a huge difference in combat though? Probably not.

    • @dmitripetrenko4999
      @dmitripetrenko4999 3 місяці тому +2

      I mean, the engine is made in part of aluminium! Something that even the Germans thought too expensive. And they were the leading aluminium producers. Meanwhile, the Soviets, who were so starved of aluminium they were making their aircrafts out of wood, were using the V-2 engine with aluminium construction.

  • @numberslettersass
    @numberslettersass 2 роки тому +2429

    The T-34 saved my marriage. Its thick armor helped to calm my wifes nerves. I appreciated the large caliber for its sheer power. We couldn't have done it without it.

    • @joeblow9657
      @joeblow9657 2 роки тому +91

      Is the T-34 a condom?

    • @numberslettersass
      @numberslettersass 2 роки тому +189

      @@joeblow9657 T-34 is one size fits all.

    • @johnd2058
      @johnd2058 2 роки тому +43

      Umm I hate to break it to you but if the armor was anything like invincible, you got cuckolded by the KV-1.

    • @generalgrievous6778
      @generalgrievous6778 2 роки тому +53

      @@johnd2058 even then the kv1 can't compare to the girth of the kv2

    • @johnd2058
      @johnd2058 2 роки тому +53

      @@generalgrievous6778 The KV-2 is unspeakable without a "Must be 21" clickwall.

  • @GerinoMorn
    @GerinoMorn Рік тому +2183

    Fun fact: I was once asked to translate a fragment of T-34 technical manual for some US owners, I presume, of one T-34. Guess what the fragment was about? Replacing the clutch xD

    • @blockboygames5956
      @blockboygames5956 Рік тому +231

      I estimate that replacing the clutch constituted about 80% of the manual itself, so chances are pretty good that you would open to that section. Srsly though, thanks for sharing. Interesting.

    • @TheMasterGamer64
      @TheMasterGamer64 Рік тому +13

      Share more pls

    • @jrus690
      @jrus690 Рік тому +30

      Yes but replacing the clutch was a really important thing to do. The last thing you want to have is a tank you drove down three roads, you encounter the Panzer IV and suddenly your clutch goes out. It is equal with the transmission, the last thing you want is to start racing and then your transmission goes out.

    • @johns.1898
      @johns.1898 Рік тому +4

      @@jrus690 Ok? You said nothing?

    • @jrus690
      @jrus690 Рік тому +2

      @@johns.1898 You said less than nothing. Capich.

  • @rkitchen1967
    @rkitchen1967 5 місяців тому +137

    In designing the Tiger I, the Germans were well aware of the effects of sloped armor, but purposely didn't use it because of the cramped crew cabin that resulted.

    • @corwinhyatt519
      @corwinhyatt519 5 місяців тому +6

      The A-1 and Grosstraktor had sloped armor iirc so the German were aware of it's down sides when designing the Panzer 1 and 2 as well. Shit, anyone who played with boxes or wood blocks growing up would know that a triangular box has less available volume than the rectangular ones that it can fit snugly in.

    • @goodwinter6017
      @goodwinter6017 2 місяці тому +1

      Yes, that is a factor but, it was mainly due to silhouette of the tank, it's shape, so it could be easily identified in the battlefield. They, the Germans literally had to come up with a total complete opposite of the the sloped armour, that's the tiger tanks block square shaped tank you see.

    • @wbertie2604
      @wbertie2604 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@goodwinter6017 the Tiger I hull shape was fixed the month before Barbarossa.

    • @hagamapama
      @hagamapama Місяць тому +4

      Yeah the Americans solved that problem by just letting their tank be a tall frontally sloped box on wheels. it didn't look pretty, but the Sherman was by far the least exhausting tank to drive because it was so roomy and the Americans used their automaking experience to make the tank super easy to operate.

    • @rkitchen1967
      @rkitchen1967 Місяць тому

      The rounded cast armor also provided ballistic protection.

  • @MrFelblood
    @MrFelblood 7 місяців тому +32

    41:00 TBF if a guy designs a tank so rugged that you can skip 75% of assembly and it still mostly sorta works, "rugged" is a fair word to use.

  • @justicewhiteside959
    @justicewhiteside959 2 роки тому +6970

    This has such a vendetta against the T-34 he makes a whole MOVIE to explain why. You sir have earned my respect and subscription.

    • @NorgumiOwO
      @NorgumiOwO 2 роки тому +76

      If you are saying this because of America he made one on the A-10

    • @justicewhiteside959
      @justicewhiteside959 2 роки тому +224

      @@NorgumiOwO I know, I just found this whole thing quite hilarious.

    • @anycombo
      @anycombo 2 роки тому +15

      Ditto.

    • @anycombo
      @anycombo 2 роки тому +37

      So damb ecstatic I’ve stumbled on your channel that I’m currently rolling on the ground clutching my belly, alternating between laughing hysterically & drooling uncontrollably.
      Subscription confirmation 😂👍🏽👍🏽

    • @Jon-ef4hh
      @Jon-ef4hh 2 роки тому +98

      Literally the reason why the T-34 was 'good' is because it was an exceedingly cheap and quickly assembled vehicle. Overall the thing was a death trap.
      I also hesitate to EVER call a WWII Soviet tank good in any way other than ease of mass production and the fact the guns were usually up to the task of punching through German tank hulls. Most issues I have are strictly with the production quality, not the vehicle design. Though the shot traps and how cramped they were certainly don't help my opinions.

  • @bigj1905
    @bigj1905 Рік тому +4080

    People always give the Sherman flak because it was considered poorly armed and armored.
    But they forget that it fit the American tank niche perfectly, specifically it’s high crew survivability rate. After all, losing a Sherman isn’t that bad when the experienced crew can just get into another Sherman.

    • @kieranadamson3224
      @kieranadamson3224 Рік тому +702

      The Sherman is pretty much just the T-34 done right. It's generally simple and easy to mass manufacture but it's still given enough investment to actually work and even be generally comfortable while fighting. And then, like you said, it's invested in enough so that even if one dies, it's crew probably won't and can hop into another one with the experience of driving the old one.

    • @JayMH409
      @JayMH409 Рік тому +406

      The Sherman was being constantly upgraded during the war. They also produced upgrade kits for Shermans in service, like the springs added to the hatches to make them easier to open in a hurry.

    • @kieranadamson3224
      @kieranadamson3224 Рік тому +244

      @@JayMH409 yeah, it was wild learning that the Calliope from BFV was a real thing. That seemed like some mumbo jumbo bullshit but no. Some mad bastards stuck a rocket barrage on top of a tank.

    • @Edax_Royeaux
      @Edax_Royeaux Рік тому +96

      @@kieranadamson3224 Be aware though the T-34 is an older tank, entering production a full year before the US even put the awful M3 Lee into production.

    • @kieranadamson3224
      @kieranadamson3224 Рік тому +176

      @@Edax_Royeaux fair enough, however I feel like even the age doesn't help it. Because, even though Germany's tanks were often hopeful failures when put into practice. They still put in the effort from pretty much right after the Great War to innovate on tank design and usage. As did many other nations. The T-34 being so ineffective falls to the Soviets not putting that effort in. Though, I will say as Mr Pig mentioned, the design itself was quite good for what it was, the Soviets could've had something to rival the Sherman. But the problem lay in how they were actually produced.

  • @doctorspock4587
    @doctorspock4587 9 місяців тому +111

    I watched a documentary on the T34, the narrator of the documentary gave a very good analysis of theT34. He pointed out the pros and cons.
    At the end of the documentary his last comment was.." I would never go to battle in that thing".

  • @MrFelblood
    @MrFelblood 7 місяців тому +47

    38:00 "Russia just gave the new guy a welder and told him to get on with it." That gives me flashbacks to "on the job training" at the knife factory.

    • @blacktemplar1139
      @blacktemplar1139 18 днів тому

      Honestly the two aren't very different when it comes to Russia I'd wager

  • @MistahFox
    @MistahFox 2 роки тому +2217

    Interesting bit about the lack of seating in T-34s; I have _heard_ (with unfortunately no source) that Soviet Sherman tankers had to keep careful guard over their Sherman tanks, because if they didn't, other Soviet tankers would steal the nice leather seats and soviet soldiers would strip its leather. Again, no source, but it makes sense, compared to the terrible conditions the East's tankers went through, the Sherman was positively luxurious.

    • @johnbeauvais3159
      @johnbeauvais3159 2 роки тому +228

      I can’t confirm it for that BUT I do have an interview of an American pilot in Italy that him and a few buddies took a Dodge Command Car into town and by the time they got back someone had stripped the leather bench seats bare. So I would believe it

    • @unaiestanconapelaez2526
      @unaiestanconapelaez2526 2 роки тому +114

      @N Fels the whole elite units got the sherman is bullshit. Sherman were used by both guard and normal units and so were the t34.
      Beyond that the Soviet opinion on the sherman were mixed they liked the sights and the comfort but disliked their height and how badly they operated in the mud compared to t34-85.

    • @sammykablamy885
      @sammykablamy885 2 роки тому +95

      You probably saw that from the "I Remember" interview of Dmitriy Fedorovich Loza. That's most likely your source. The interview has plenty of insight on his experience with M4A2s in the Red Army.

    • @MistahFox
      @MistahFox 2 роки тому +13

      @@sammykablamy885 Thank you!

    • @andrewgause6971
      @andrewgause6971 2 роки тому +170

      @@unaiestanconapelaez2526 I once read an account of a Sherman soviet tanker who praised the thing because it didn't blow up and kill him when it was hit. Apparently most of his colleagues in 34s got blown up or burned to death trying to get out of their tanks.
      I can understand how such a thing would affect one's viewpoint on a tank's performance.

  • @AnythingMachine
    @AnythingMachine 2 роки тому +1159

    36:20 "and absolutely nothing to do with their consistent tactical failures and poor chain of supply" some things never change

    • @RipOffProductionsLLC
      @RipOffProductionsLLC 2 роки тому +65

      Yeah, this Ukraine war has shown that Russia has changed very little since the darkest of the Soviet days...

    • @ScorpionViper1001
      @ScorpionViper1001 2 роки тому

      @@RipOffProductionsLLC Including, evidently, their tendency to r*pe the people they "liberate."

    • @MiishaKorvian
      @MiishaKorvian 2 роки тому +33

      @@RipOffProductionsLLC Lazerpig Loop!

  • @216Suzan
    @216Suzan 10 місяців тому +153

    The t-34 a tank that could be assembled in 3 hours but a enemy shell can disassemble in 3 seconds

    • @Haispawner
      @Haispawner 7 місяців тому +4

      They were used to shoot nazis so I will give it just a tiny bit of respect.

    • @adammissildine8027
      @adammissildine8027 5 місяців тому +17

      @@Haispawnerso was the British crusader tank yet it is hated by a lot of people and was arguably better than the t34

    • @mobiusone6994
      @mobiusone6994 4 місяці тому +11

      @@Haispawner So was the Sherman but people seem to look at that thing as though it was some kind of steel coffin

    • @artemefimov8215
      @artemefimov8215 Місяць тому

      No it was not, it didn't have sufficient firepower to take on tigers and stuff, and cost more than t-34-85​@@adammissildine8027

    • @Monke45_Gd
      @Monke45_Gd 22 дні тому

      @@artemefimov8215 wait... if im right... there is a video about the best tank and it stated that the sherman crew could penetrate tigers whit the 75mm ( i dont think that was the size) whit no problem and they werent even concious about the danger of the tiger from what i remember? if its not right then pls correct, the video was ''what was the best tank in WW2?'' now there are a lot of those videos so yh.......... sadly i dont know the ytuber name

  • @LukeMachad0
    @LukeMachad0 11 місяців тому +85

    The benefits of sloped armor were known even before that - medieval armor used rounded shapes and sloped designs. In fact, I think armors made even before that already used those concepts, even as early as the bronze age!

    • @petergray2712
      @petergray2712 9 місяців тому +7

      WW1 naval warships inclined their belt armor for the same reason.

    • @jungoder1085
      @jungoder1085 8 місяців тому +16

      As an absolute armour nerd you are right
      Rounded plates or ones with steep angles were the norm
      In late medieval Europe you didn’t really see any flat plates because a globose breastplate that’s 3mm mild steel could deflect a lance or a heavy crossbow bolt no problem but you make that 3mm flat? It gets run through lol
      Also medieval people knew that rivets were weaknesses in armour as it was with tanks

    • @pedrofelipefreitas2666
      @pedrofelipefreitas2666 6 місяців тому +2

      It's a pretty old tech, shields also used a metal sphere in the middle to deflect blows.

    • @spicysnowman8886
      @spicysnowman8886 3 місяці тому +1

      Almosy every tank i look at has sloped frontal armor, pre or post war.

    • @elduquecaradura1468
      @elduquecaradura1468 2 місяці тому +1

      Damn, even walls reflected that, check classical medieval walls vs bastion walls, latter ones were sloped because cannon shots, wich came in replacement of catapults/trebuchets come in a straight trayectory instead of inclined from above like trebs did

  • @thesmirkingwolf
    @thesmirkingwolf 2 роки тому +686

    I had the pleasure of meeting several WWII T-34 crewmen.
    The majority of them hated their tank, but were attached to it for the sake of nostalgia and the fact that it was what they had.

    • @77thbrigadesockpuppetaccou50
      @77thbrigadesockpuppetaccou50 2 роки тому +65

      eh, the people who actually had to fight in tanks often had very different opinions to historians. like, my uncle fought thru north africa then italy in tanks & his favourite by far was the american m3 stuart cos it was so reliable & nippy. same with pilots & their planes, my dad flew convoy protection off escort carriers in the north atlantic & hated any plane that wasn't a fairey swordfish.

    • @jamesscott4574
      @jamesscott4574 2 роки тому +45

      @@77thbrigadesockpuppetaccou50 the different opinion is certainly prevalent in the Sherman's case, often remarked as dangerous and crappy tank to be in by its crews.
      But historians report it's higher than average survival rate on being penetrated, decent reliability and ease of maintenance among other positives.
      It's an interesting thing to see.

    • @vihurah9554
      @vihurah9554 2 роки тому +41

      @@jamesscott4574 statistics are often water on oil for someone who physically sat in a tank and had a shell fly into the compartment, and I cant really blame them

    • @jamesscott4574
      @jamesscott4574 2 роки тому +33

      @@vihurah9554 Oh me neither, statistics and lived experiences definitely don't have a friendly co-habitation with each other most of the time.
      Although having someone complain about how 4/5 crew members survived a penetrating shot rather than the tank just having a cook-off like their enemies with no survivors is telling in itself.
      It's like a flipped and morbid customer review phenomena, the living have the the time and ability to complain, not so much the dead.

    • @77thbrigadesockpuppetaccou50
      @77thbrigadesockpuppetaccou50 2 роки тому +20

      @@jamesscott4574 i think the main reason sherman crews were unhappy is cos they were used as assault tanks, so were going up against the best german AT guns/tanks, which they were pretty much defenceless against at range. made em feel like cannon fodder, no matter what the stats on survivability etc. say. so when my uncle said the m3 was his favourite tank he coulda meant that being in light/recon tanks was his favourite posting. still, the m3 was excellent in its role, neither the germans nor the italians had a light tank as good, which is another reason for its popularity.

  • @fuzzydunlop7928
    @fuzzydunlop7928 2 роки тому +1655

    Broke: The German big cats were the peak of WWII engineering
    Woke: The cheap, mass-produced, easily-maintained T-34's were the most effective tanks of the war in terms of impact.
    Bespoke: Both the T-34 and the Sherman were a delicate, well-toted balance of mitigating factors and unique capabilities created to fit the unique requirements of their respective fighting forces during the conflict, and in this we see the tanks themselves matter little, but what matters most is a frank, self-aware appraisal of your nation's capabilities and requirements and when this is considered even the oft-maligned Italian and Japanese tanks seem sensible and at least somewhat considered, and to a degree this is true for all the countries in the war except the British whose tanks were utterly shite until the very end where they had to pioneer a new class of tank because they were hopelessly lost trying to read the room and keep up with what everyone else was doing.

    • @SAarumDoK
      @SAarumDoK 2 роки тому +75

      Finally someone with common sense; ^^

    • @Zombie1Boy
      @Zombie1Boy 2 роки тому +265

      Bewoke: Bob Semple Tank is greatest tank ever made as no one died while driving one.

    • @magoshighlands4074
      @magoshighlands4074 2 роки тому +48

      Hey, I defence of us Brits the Two Tank system we developed evolved into the modern IFV, Tank and infantry doctrine, so we may have been a bit behind during the war, after it we were light years ahead

    • @thehumanoddity
      @thehumanoddity 2 роки тому +55

      British tanks weren't shit, at worst they were average. They just suffered from introducing a few of them, and the Cromwell in particular, relatively late in the war. Their Churchills were used to through to the end of the war with great success.

    • @FakeSchrodingersCat
      @FakeSchrodingersCat 2 роки тому +31

      @@magoshighlands4074 But if you compare the two tank system to the modern one the British got the requirements completely wrong they took heavy tanks hobbled the speed to such ridiculous limits so that the infantry could keep up with them and assigned them as support roles and then took fast lighter armed tanks and expected them to break through enemy lines on the attack with no infantry support. Assuming modern doctrine is correct.

  • @kokurothegreat70
    @kokurothegreat70 8 місяців тому +40

    im fascinated that in every russian engagement ive ever known about, theres always been some severe, disgusting, ridiculous break in logistics. they've never seriously attempted to correct it either.

    • @jj4791
      @jj4791 7 місяців тому +2

      Russians hate reason. They subscribe to the more that is sacrificed the more is gained. The highest moral duty is to fight in vain and die for mother Russia and thru sacrifice they will prevail.

    • @hagamapama
      @hagamapama Місяць тому

      Not only that they've built it into a mythos for themselves. As if suffering were just part of being Russian, rather than something that you deal with because someone F'd up.

  • @harrymichaels3877
    @harrymichaels3877 9 місяців тому +24

    An image of Thomas the tank engine pushing a WW2 piece of field artillery and a Vulcan/minigun is one of the best things I’ve ever seen

  • @jloiben12
    @jloiben12 Рік тому +1702

    Little did you know that about 2 months after this video was released that we would learn that the "build a lot of stuff and fuck logistics" mantra of the Soviets in WWII would still be around and still be a problem.

    • @timothy705
      @timothy705 Рік тому +207

      Except instead of build a lot of stuff it’s pull a lot of stuff we built decades ago out of the warehouses and send it to battle severely undermaintained & lofted years ago for embezzlement

    • @casualduelist854
      @casualduelist854 Рік тому +13

      soviets excelled at logistics in later stages of ww2, look at the invasion of Manchuria in 1945.

    • @Vox_Popul1
      @Vox_Popul1 Рік тому +78

      I don't think it's fair to compare the 1941-43 Red Army to the current Russian Army.
      The former had to make do with whatever they had, were caught by surprise, were outnumbered at one point, fought one of the most powerful enemies you could possibly have at the time, and they still won in the end, even if they had allies (since iirc most of the German army was fighting the Soviets for most of the war anyway). Meanwhile, the latter had the initiative, had more troops and equipment, more time to prepare, etc. And yet they still botched it spectacularly. So idk there are quite a few difference one has to consider here.

    • @BSpinoza210
      @BSpinoza210 Рік тому +1

      Yeah, the Russian's decided to go mano-a-mano with the entire western MIC and their production capabilities and spare stocks, while alienating Tiawan (largest microchip producer in the world), leaving China indifferent (they have their own problems), and deciding to source parts for drones from a dictatorship that's currently fending off a proto-revolution (I say proto here because it's not clear to me what exactly is happening in Iran, other than the government culling and pissing off their entire population, or if the military, or part of the military, has truly taken a side in the conflict yet for or against reform).

    • @royalhistorian5109
      @royalhistorian5109 Рік тому +59

      @@casualduelist854 Which isn't a surprise since most of the Japanese army is bogged down within China and the navy was busy with the United States....also, the Japanese tanks were heavily outdated and the lack of anti-tank doesn't help much. So yea...it was expected that the Soviet Union would steam roll the weak Japanese/Manchuria army as most of the resources and manpower that they had was just gone.

  • @ThorneyedWT
    @ThorneyedWT 2 роки тому +1509

    My favourite part about T-34 is it's clutch. Made of 22 pairs of steel plates with 1.5 mm distance between fully engaged and disengaged positions. It was the main reason why soviet tankers basically used only 2nd gear. And all because they couldn't produce decent friction material.

    • @DrHavoc1
      @DrHavoc1 2 роки тому +20

      Главкраб оказывается может в английский!

    • @Saber643
      @Saber643 2 роки тому +15

      @@DrHavoc1 Так он ещё относительно давно засветился у... Сквайра, примерно

    • @DrHavoc1
      @DrHavoc1 2 роки тому +4

      @@Saber643 а можно ссылочку? Просто я сквайра не смотрю

    • @Saber643
      @Saber643 2 роки тому +2

      @@DrHavoc1 ua-cam.com/video/NYioaoSwKv8/v-deo.html

    • @Lovemy1911a1
      @Lovemy1911a1 2 роки тому +45

      I have not heard that they couldn't make proper clutches or had poor metallurgical technology. They had some serious quality control problems so sometimes things were done badly but they could make good steels. From what I have read the main transmission problems of the T34 stem from the original need to use the same tooling and production lines building the BT tank transmissions. The original 4 speed transmission was basically a beefed up BT transmission and was simply totally inadequate for a tank over twice it's weight.

  • @tylerthompson5859
    @tylerthompson5859 4 місяці тому +15

    32:09 "T-34 is the first tank to use sloped armor!" *Shows picture of Little Willy, THE first tank*

    • @heneagedundas
      @heneagedundas 18 днів тому

      Yeah, that was a genuine lol moment.

  • @vasilzahariev5741
    @vasilzahariev5741 Рік тому +217

    Watching this video 15 months into the Russian invasion of Ukraine and I find it baffling how little the Russians have changed since WW2.

    • @mrtom2854
      @mrtom2854 11 місяців тому +44

      It's almost as if Putin and his cronies are still living in the so-called glory days, and have the tactical ability of Pierre Sprey

    • @jonreese7066
      @jonreese7066 11 місяців тому +2

      The logistics issues they face are because they expect heavy losses

    • @n0k1ngs41
      @n0k1ngs41 11 місяців тому +10

      Alcohol is a helluva drug.

    • @jimparis5073
      @jimparis5073 10 місяців тому +4

      Are you kidding me the red army would shit bricks over these Russian federation troops

    • @OddLeah
      @OddLeah 9 місяців тому

      Russian tactics haven't changed since the tsars.

  • @andreicrisan5526
    @andreicrisan5526 2 роки тому +1777

    22:35 No, it's not a myth: I know several people who served in the Romanian Army on T-34/85s [post-war models, formerly of Czechoslovak stock] who told me that, more often than not, the only way for the driver to get the tank into gear was to get the radio operator to help him; now imagine you're under fire and have to reverse the tank very QUICKLY.

    • @riderstrano783
      @riderstrano783 2 роки тому +116

      That’s not terribly ideal.

    • @phunkracy
      @phunkracy 2 роки тому +103

      On the other hand I drove T-34 twice and driving wasn't nearly as terrible as portrayed. In fact, the tank seemed bizzarely fast and mobile for it's size. We easily did 30 km/h cross country.

    • @whiskeytangosierra6
      @whiskeytangosierra6 2 роки тому +161

      I would rather not imagine my 6' 2" frame inside any Russian tank.

    • @USS_Grey_Ghost
      @USS_Grey_Ghost 2 роки тому +34

      @@whiskeytangosierra6 what about a Sherman that has more room

    • @whiskeytangosierra6
      @whiskeytangosierra6 2 роки тому +126

      @@USS_Grey_Ghost I have been inside a Sherman. It's tight. Tanks are not really designed for tall people. Oddly, the drivers compartment of an M5 is plenty big and the thing is a hoot to drive. That turret though...

  • @LongTimeAgoNL
    @LongTimeAgoNL 2 роки тому +808

    I remember visiting a museum in Luxembourg and they had a part of the museum explaining about camps for prisoners of war. Between all the the information there was a journal. A journal from a Russian tank commander (I believe). It was an interesting read about the T-34. The following of his complaints stood out:
    - The back plate/engine cover of the T-34 was not completely bolted shut. It had only 2 bolts. This made the plate shake and make a lot of noise during driving.
    - Their T-34 came WITHOUT SEATS. So what they did, before they entered the front lines, they entered a restaurant or a home (not sure) but conviscated the seats and pillows and fitted them in the tank.
    - They couldnt drive over 15 KM/H for long times (OVER ROAD) because the tank and transmission would overheat too quickly and break down and had to be cooled which took too long.
    They soon had to abandon the tank during a fight due to a failing transmission and got captured shortly after.
    He was allowed to keep writing in his journal as higher ranked officers got in to 'better' camps apparently.

    • @AyedYoutube
      @AyedYoutube 2 роки тому +50

      What year was the journal written? It’s interesting to read crew perception of the T-34 from all periods

    • @rorschach1985ify
      @rorschach1985ify 2 роки тому +41

      I wonder if he survived after the war since the Soviets were pretty awful to captured Troops when they returned.

    • @baronvonluchz5874
      @baronvonluchz5874 2 роки тому +5

      The one in diekirch?

    • @lindsey607
      @lindsey607 2 роки тому +30

      Seems like the t-34 was your typical bottom tier product of the Soviet union. They never could make anything well it seems. Communism really held them back.

    • @danmorgan3685
      @danmorgan3685 2 роки тому +7

      @@lindsey607 LOL! Sure kid.

  • @darklitebug
    @darklitebug 10 місяців тому +56

    The story I was always told wasn't that the tank was good, but was basically designed to be bad. That it was made of cheap, replaceable parts, and that any losses could be salvaged for surviving tanks, and the Soviets just accepted the crew losses because they had the manpower for it. I don't know how true that is, but it was a lot more believable then "Best tank ever made, trust me comrade".

    • @user-ox3du2pv2v
      @user-ox3du2pv2v 10 місяців тому +3

      same

    • @Wardads1
      @Wardads1 8 місяців тому +6

      Of course its the best tank ever made ,just one was needed to replace all 13 Armatas and T-
      90s in the last parade .

  • @cpt_nordbart
    @cpt_nordbart Рік тому +70

    T34 is a great tank for parades.
    Especially when all other tanks are broken or somewhere else.

    • @6.5x55
      @6.5x55 14 днів тому

      And again in 2024😉

  • @arkad6329
    @arkad6329 2 роки тому +2011

    “The Russians haven’t produced a good tank sense 1965”
    *Me looking at all the T-80’s the Ukrainians have taken out*
    …Well that aged very well.

    • @rorysparshott4223
      @rorysparshott4223 2 роки тому +221

      You could literally replace the T34 in this video with virtually any other Russian or Soviet tank from the past 50 years

    • @joewelch4933
      @joewelch4933 2 роки тому +220

      @@rorysparshott4223 Soviet gear has always been vastly overrated. The same for the chicoms.

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 2 роки тому

      @@joewelch4933 ChiComs steal America's shit, that's where their more advanced stuff tends to come from.
      I doubt you could _pay_ China to steal Russian tank designs in the 21st century.

    • @Dodsodalo
      @Dodsodalo 2 роки тому +84

      @@joewelch4933 The Ak is a great beginner gun for soldiers and those who never used guns.

    • @haroldcarfrey4381
      @haroldcarfrey4381 2 роки тому +18

      Ukrainian T-64s are not bad, and they come in one year before your deadline, but even they will explode if you get a penetrator inside the turret.

  • @captaindreadnought212
    @captaindreadnought212 2 роки тому +1564

    "The Cromwell is better than the T-34"
    We're reading levels of *based* that shouldn't be possible

    • @mikaelgrande6968
      @mikaelgrande6968 2 роки тому +148

      Cromwell actually had speed, there is a story about the British JUMPING across a tiny bridge that was blown up. I mean, aside from bt7, what could do that? (Hellcat, and probably a few other speedy bois as well)

    • @JayMH409
      @JayMH409 2 роки тому +34

      @@mikaelgrande6968 - I believe Lindybeige tells that story.

    • @QurttoRco
      @QurttoRco 2 роки тому +57

      @@mikaelgrande6968 that story is almost certainly fake.
      Yes cromwell was a fast tank
      No its very unlikely it could jump 10 m gap and keep going.

    • @avatard.chiken4811
      @avatard.chiken4811 2 роки тому +1

      @@QurttoRco NAH MAN THAT HUNK OF STEEL IS MUCH FASTER THAN LIGHTINGING MCQUEEN

    • @ClemDiamond
      @ClemDiamond 2 роки тому +87

      @@QurttoRco It was in the memoirs of one british tank commander. The gap was most likely not 10 meters wide but he does not say. There was sort of a ledge that could be used as a ramp to jump and the tanks had a bit of a run up to take up speed.
      Exagerated, maybe. Fake, not definetly.

  • @tedytarrify
    @tedytarrify 11 місяців тому +24

    'This will upset a lot of people' are some of my favorite words.

  • @GrueTurtle
    @GrueTurtle 10 місяців тому +101

    'It's a piece of shit but it shoots and we can make a lot of them.'
    "are they reliable?"
    'no.'
    "are they good?"
    'no.'
    "are they fast?"
    'no.'
    "are they durable?"
    'no.'
    "so we will crush them superior numbers.?
    'no.'
    "So they're cheap?"
    'no.'
    "ah, so they're expensive because they are good!"
    'still no.'
    "..."
    '...'
    "Stalin truly is a wonderous leader. I wish to someday be so wise as to understand his glorious plan!"
    'yes.'

    • @tyomikshkolnik7988
      @tyomikshkolnik7988 10 місяців тому +8

      A: They are fast
      B: They are durable
      C: They are reliable
      D: They aren't comfortable
      That's the only difference. Just because the crew doesn't like it doesn't mean the tank is utter garbage. Soviet aircraft crews alone were amazed by the comfort of lend-lease planes. The IS-2 is a great tank too, but if course the T-34 was the only Soviet tank it seems.

    • @thetubeboi6991
      @thetubeboi6991 10 місяців тому +20

      @@tyomikshkolnik7988bro he just debunked this.
      A) you can, hear me out, NOT SHIFT INTO THE TWO FASTEST GEARS, the gear stick becomes impossible to move because of a shit design.

    • @thetubeboi6991
      @thetubeboi6991 10 місяців тому +13

      @@tyomikshkolnik7988B) they aren’t durable, the soviets heat treated their metal so much it became brittle

    • @tyomikshkolnik7988
      @tyomikshkolnik7988 10 місяців тому +2

      @@thetubeboi6991 the amount of tanks able to conduct a 330-kilometer run without problems rose from 10.1 percent to 79 percent at the end of the war...

    • @tyomikshkolnik7988
      @tyomikshkolnik7988 10 місяців тому +6

      @@thetubeboi6991 yeah I'm not sure you're much better, going around and whining how great your Shermans were. Just because you saw a video by a person who is clearly anti-soviet / anti-russian that doesn't mean he is right...

  • @dcdanger7597
    @dcdanger7597 2 роки тому +370

    Tiny correction on the great drive from karkov to Moscow the driver didn't get pneumonia from exhaustion he got it because the tank didn't have a fucking heater for the crew

    • @Skaldy1
      @Skaldy1 2 роки тому +18

      it is Kharkov, 2 years i lived there

    • @stephenflook9403
      @stephenflook9403 2 роки тому +45

      @@Skaldy1 From one grammar Nazi to another: respect.

    • @Man_0f_Trenches
      @Man_0f_Trenches 2 роки тому +34

      A SOVIET tank used in UKRAINE and RUSSIA didn’t have a heater installed. My god.

    • @Skaldy1
      @Skaldy1 2 роки тому +22

      @@Man_0f_Trenches Soviet tank used in Soviet Union* FYI factory that made first t34 is now fridge or freezer factory. and i thin that pun was intended

    • @richardmillhousenixon
      @richardmillhousenixon 2 роки тому +26

      You don't get pneumonia strictly from being in the cold. Being in the cold likely caused him to be exhausted from his body trying to work overtime to keep him warm, and when you pair that with exhaustion from overexertion it probably caused his immune system to weaken to the point that his body couldn't effectively protect him from pneumonia

  • @shlomz
    @shlomz 2 роки тому +3065

    You actually helped me understand something which I suspected: after WW2, in conflicts between armies using the amazing T34 and those using the mediocre Sherman, the side with the Sherman usually won...

    • @egoalter1276
      @egoalter1276 2 роки тому +374

      The T34 was a very good tank for 1940. The Sherman was a mediocre tank for 1943.
      Both of these statements are true and correct. AFV development during the war was ridiculously fast.

    • @naughtyhieroglyph669
      @naughtyhieroglyph669 2 роки тому +426

      in later conflicts the t-34 will lose to the toyota hilux.

    • @egoalter1276
      @egoalter1276 2 роки тому +118

      @@naughtyhieroglyph669 It was actually the T55. And by about the same metric the CharB1 lost to the Opel blitz.

    • @bethcail976
      @bethcail976 2 роки тому +419

      ​@@egoalter1276 The Sherman was not mediocre in 43, it remained a great tank throughout the war, its just they were up against an enemy that was almost always on the defensive.

    • @zeffy._440
      @zeffy._440 2 роки тому +15

      correlation isn't causation

  • @erikahl7180
    @erikahl7180 7 місяців тому +22

    4:50 "large portions of europe still speaking german....."
    Yeah, we call that germany.

    • @merucrypoison296
      @merucrypoison296 3 місяці тому

      That guys head looks really funny

    • @damonedrington3453
      @damonedrington3453 2 місяці тому +1

      Someone should tell him that German is currently the most spoken single language in Europe

  • @Kalashnikoov
    @Kalashnikoov 10 місяців тому +59

    People believing diesel can't catch fire have an average IQ of the soil supporting the garden salad.
    Other than that, a masterpiece ❤

    • @petergray2712
      @petergray2712 9 місяців тому +7

      Yes, but it takes a very hot combustion source to start a diesel fire. Hence, the misconception.

    • @WillM38
      @WillM38 6 місяців тому

      Right? If it couldn't combust, it couldn't be used as fuel.

    • @The_Natalist
      @The_Natalist 6 місяців тому

      ​@WillM38 ya, though its technically compressed until it explodes.... but same difference

    • @The_Natalist
      @The_Natalist 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@petergray2712 Throw diesel on a fire, and the fire will get bigger, throw Gasoline on a fire, you my just lose your eyebrows. I know, i almost did 😂

    • @petergray2712
      @petergray2712 6 місяців тому

      @thewingedhussars9080 You have to turn gasoline into an aerosol to make it burn. If it pools, a match or a cigarette won't be enough to ignite it.
      Edit: That's an exaggeration on my part. But droplets of a certain size to properly ignite from a low temperature heat source.

  • @jameswolf133
    @jameswolf133 2 роки тому +996

    I’m surprised you didn’t delve into the T-34’s Korean War performance. Yes, it gained a ferocious reputation feasting on Chaffee light tanks and shrugging off bazooka and 57 mm anti-tank rounds. When faced with Sherman’s and Pershing tanks, the T-34 fared poorly.

    • @comradekenobi6908
      @comradekenobi6908 2 роки тому +129

      Tank performance being bad in one war = being bad all around is quite misleading. It can even vary between different nations using the same tank. For instance, American crews had a higher survival rate in the sherman than british crews for one reason. Americans wore helmets and Brotish wore berets

    • @mr.wilkingson8419
      @mr.wilkingson8419 2 роки тому +77

      @@comradekenobi6908 Or yknow, the overstocking of ammunition :P

    • @eazy8579
      @eazy8579 2 роки тому +2

      Shermans tore the T34 a new asshole in Korea, and the same people who call the T34 a war winner call the Sherman a death trap, so it’s quite interesting

    • @comradekenobi6908
      @comradekenobi6908 2 роки тому +4

      @@eazy8579 how do you know it's the same people?

    • @eazy8579
      @eazy8579 2 роки тому +104

      @@comradekenobi6908 you ever seen the one show Lazerpig pulled clips from? It was called Top 10 Tanks, it was run on the “History Channel” and it ranked the Sherman 10 (lowest) and the T34 Number 1; they could not stop bashing the Sherman and, well, you saw the guy who’s hot take was “T-34 armor designed to stop gunfire.” He was that show

  • @chriscalby7412
    @chriscalby7412 Рік тому +1603

    Who in THE hell is LazerPig? I’m a few videos into this guys library and I’ve never been so thoroughly entertained while still enjoying what is obviously knowledgeable and well thought out lessons in military history. You sir are a true master of your craft.

    • @ollietizzard5180
      @ollietizzard5180 Рік тому +63

      Lol I'm here having just stumbled upon him thinking the same thing

    • @pleasy13
      @pleasy13 Рік тому +12

      @@ollietizzard5180 Same here.

    • @crackrat6166
      @crackrat6166 Рік тому +44

      I’ve been watching LazerPig for some time now. Knowledgeable and well researched stuff. But the kicker is that he’s incredibly entertaining and funny. Aces! 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

    • @TheManic10
      @TheManic10 Рік тому +17

      He is great. I always end up binge watching his videos while going for long walks.

    • @h.a.9880
      @h.a.9880 Рік тому +33

      Lazerpig hits that sweetspot between giving you interesting, well-researched information and shitposty af humor.

  • @Nikarus2370
    @Nikarus2370 25 днів тому +4

    Every time I watch videos of The Chieftain trying to get in/out of some of these tanks that are cramped and do poorly on the "Oh crap, the tank is on fire" test... it stresses me the hell out.

  • @comensee2461
    @comensee2461 9 місяців тому +11

    I think it's important to note that in 1941 the Soviet's were already looking to replace the T-34-76 with a newer T-34M model that used a bigger 3 man turret with a commanders cupola, new torsion bar suspension (greatly increases the interior space), and a new engine/transmission. The original T-34-76 with the Christie suspension was already a dead end design and the outbreak of war stopped the development of the T-34M, but it was later dusted off in 1943, and became the basis of the T-44 tank by late 1944.
    Had the Soviets had time to refine and mass produce the T-34M they would have been able to develop the T-44 a lot earlier in the war and that tank was vastly superior to the Panther in almost every category.

  • @chaosacsend9653
    @chaosacsend9653 Рік тому +1285

    I always find it funny that the people who are quick to call the Sherman a death trap, are also the quickest to praise the t-34 it honestly baffles me.

    • @kiwitrainguy
      @kiwitrainguy Рік тому +30

      Well, the Sherman did have two nicknames: "Ronsons" - after the cigarette lighter because they "lit first time" and the Germans called them the "Tommy Cooker".

    • @TuShan18
      @TuShan18 Рік тому +162

      @@kiwitrainguy I believe the Germans called everything tommy cookers. Also, Ronsons didn’t start using the slogan “first time every time” until the 50s. There’s “one flip and it’s lit” in the 20s though. Also, the Americans used zippo lighters. Not ronsons.

    • @ericamborsky3230
      @ericamborsky3230 Рік тому +58

      @@kiwitrainguy Don't quote me on this but to add to the source less tidbits floating around the internet, I've also heard that the term "Tommy cooker" was given by the British while they were fighting in the desert, because it was a metal box in the desert and would naturally get very hot inside.

    • @BjornTheDim
      @BjornTheDim Рік тому +65

      @@TuShan18 Also, everything tended to go up in flames during this time period, whether it was the fuel or the ammunition. The Americans took great measures to fix this problem, whether through preventive measures to flood the magazine if it was breached or attaching springs to every single hatch possible.
      It turns out that being the Arsenal of Democracy and having an absolutely ludicrous industrial advantage over everyone else has its benefits.

    • @TuShan18
      @TuShan18 Рік тому +33

      @@BjornTheDim agreed. People might always say that American industry was a major factor of the war, but I don’t think enough people realize why that was the case, and how far America went to use the full force of its industry.

  • @ilaril
    @ilaril Рік тому +241

    Talked with Finnish veterans who fight against and used the captured t-34's. No one really liked it, but when they knew how bad the view was from inside, they didn't fear to get close enough to give them their cocktail.

  • @RinAldrin
    @RinAldrin Рік тому +115

    Suddenly all the problems with the T-14 makes sense

    • @02suraditpengsaeng41
      @02suraditpengsaeng41 11 місяців тому +8

      Do not judge yet
      We ain't clearly know about T-14 or get Red​Effect'd

    • @501stIstheBestRegiment
      @501stIstheBestRegiment 9 місяців тому +4

      @@02suraditpengsaeng41 we know one thing they either have less of them then they claim they do or too many got fucked (transmition/engine or something else dying) before the last victory parade they were in

    • @02suraditpengsaeng41
      @02suraditpengsaeng41 9 місяців тому +4

      @@501stIstheBestRegiment I mean for common sense especially "History repeat itself"
      I found out T-14 Armata has familiar story as IS-3

    • @hidefreek6905
      @hidefreek6905 6 місяців тому +2

      T-14 problem is the corruption inside the Russian military and cut budget costs during the R&D.
      Indeed the theory was good but it'd be good if it's deployed during the 2010s.
      Know the tank is outdated.

  • @kyledabearsfan
    @kyledabearsfan 6 місяців тому +28

    The Russian military has the same logistics capability as my niece setting up a tea party for her stuffed animals 😂

    • @wingracer1614
      @wingracer1614 4 місяці тому +7

      I suspect your niece is actually a lot better. She actually cares about her stuffed animals and isn't selling all that state supplied (read parents) tea to the neighbors as a side hustle.

  • @gravygraves5112
    @gravygraves5112 2 роки тому +1477

    I'm glad you mentioned the bombing campaign led by the US and UK. A huge part of Germany not being able to crank out more weapons and supplies and move them in a timely manner was because their factories and rail systems and roads were all being leveled by copious amounts of explosives. Didn't know about the bidding wars you mentioned that kept valuable high grade materials from the Germans, always cool to see how resource procurement can have such a drastic effect on a conflict.

    • @R3APP3R66
      @R3APP3R66 2 роки тому +28

      So basically if it wasn't for the western allies getting involved it would have been a war of attrition for the Russians and they would have lost due to literaly running out of supplies..geez

    • @lordofdarkdudes
      @lordofdarkdudes 2 роки тому +37

      More tanks would be of no help to the germans considering they lacked fule to run theam

    • @paullakowski2509
      @paullakowski2509 2 роки тому +6

      @@lordofdarkdudes Every one makes this claim but still have seen no evidence to back it up.

    • @lordofdarkdudes
      @lordofdarkdudes 2 роки тому +61

      @@paullakowski2509 you mean germanys fuel shortage during ww2? That was without a doubt a thing i dont know what to tell you

    • @paullakowski2509
      @paullakowski2509 2 роки тому +3

      @@lordofdarkdudes i would like to see credible sourced figures,...let me help out.
      German oil supplies were average of 10 million tons per year from 1939 -1944? How much oil do they need.?

  • @Name-ot3xw
    @Name-ot3xw 2 роки тому +249

    Tank nerds are great.
    recall that in the previous 12 months 2 people in 2 different countries have gone to jail because of their need to trade secrets for E-Tank-Honor
    I'm on team M3 Lee, not because it's a good tank but because it looks funny.

    • @dogman9223
      @dogman9223 2 роки тому +35

      Based, the lee is cool

    • @tinyplaidninjas8868
      @tinyplaidninjas8868 2 роки тому +31

      The Lee was there for them when they needed it to be, and it did the best it could. What more could you ask for from a tank?

    • @Name-ot3xw
      @Name-ot3xw 2 роки тому +9

      @@tinyplaidninjas8868 it wasn’t great, but it was good n cheap!

    • @no_name2882
      @no_name2882 2 роки тому +14

      Im on team Grant. Same tank, different turret

    • @satanhell_lord
      @satanhell_lord 2 роки тому +13

      The Lee is such a good tank because even tho it wasn't the best, it did what it was supposed to. Was it supposed to be a fast, hard hitter and impenetrable tank? No! It was made to be good enough until something better could replace it, and it's what it did.

  • @codyraugh6599
    @codyraugh6599 10 місяців тому +33

    The reason the Societs did so good was the US provided trucks for their logistics, and their infantry combined with their commanders who were far better than what most people assume (Stalin's Purges could have actually left the Soviet Union with better officers overall, BUT the timing was what made the whole event something of a detriment for the Soviets)

    • @randylahey1581
      @randylahey1581 8 місяців тому +11

      Don't forget the amount of food, steel and vehicles the US gave them. If it wasn't for lend lease, the soviets would have been massacred

    • @executivedirector7467
      @executivedirector7467 6 місяців тому +2

      The US did provide a huge number of trucks, but virtually none before 1943.

  • @trevorcassell236
    @trevorcassell236 10 місяців тому +17

    36:42 - 37:40 is an excellent example of Lazerpig's thespian talent, and I find his example endlessly hilarious.

  • @JohnWMichell
    @JohnWMichell Рік тому +1353

    I was born in china. In there, people was told and believed that T34 was the best medium tank in wwii. But as I started to read more history, I started to question that why the best tank suffered such a high number of loss. Then I found that it was not as good as I was told. I agree with you. Maybe the design was not that bad but the real products were not exactly as they were designed. I like your channel.

    • @suddenlythatenderman5800
      @suddenlythatenderman5800 Рік тому +16

      is suggest reading the The T-34 is not as bad as you think it is, for proper info

    • @TheVistula
      @TheVistula Рік тому +98

      ​@@suddenlythatenderman5800 Yes it was. It was one of the worst tanks of world war II.

    • @jamesedwardladislazerrudo1378
      @jamesedwardladislazerrudo1378 Рік тому +2

      ​@@suddenlythatenderman5800 so compare to the Japanese ones which looks bad?

    • @tuananhphung577
      @tuananhphung577 Рік тому +4

      @@TheVistula Is not the worst tank in ww2, if so then the Sherman also the worst tank in ww2 because the allies are afraid of the Tiger tanks when the Tiger tank blow up thier Shermans. The T-34 suffered the high causality because the Soviet can retrieved back the damaged or even destroyed T-34 and fixed them to get those tanks back to battlefield

    • @Naeron66
      @Naeron66 Рік тому +23

      "Best" does not mean superior to all aspects. Lots of mediocre tanks can be "better" than small numbers of good tanks.

  • @stevendoherty2130
    @stevendoherty2130 Рік тому +564

    I highly recommend people look into what soviet tank crews said about lend lease shermans that they got. They complained about the tracks being a bit annoying in mud, and the gun being a little underpowered, but they loved the reliability and comfort. This is the people that supposedly had the best tank of ww2(t-34) talking about the supposedly worst tank(Sherman) of the war. I do like T-34s, but they are overrated.

    • @brennanleadbetter9708
      @brennanleadbetter9708 Рік тому +8

      @Steven Doherty Dmitry Loza is a good example.

    • @ZaJaClt
      @ZaJaClt Рік тому

      What not a single comment said here, is that the gun on a t 34 would penetrate german armour. Which was enough. And its not a russian tank but a judeo communist one. Learn the difference

    • @jic1
      @jic1 Рік тому +3

      @@brennanleadbetter9708 I thought the part where he said that you could safely play paintball with a tommy gun if you were wearing a padded jacket did somewhat diminish his credibility though.

    • @brennanleadbetter9708
      @brennanleadbetter9708 Рік тому +10

      @ jic1 might’ve been a lucky miss. But even American soldiers complained about the Tommy’s drawbacks.

    • @jic1
      @jic1 Рік тому

      @@brennanleadbetter9708 There's a big difference between 'it's heavy, expensive, and hard to control' and 'you can shoot your friends with it and they'll be fine'.

  • @Skreezilla
    @Skreezilla 6 місяців тому +13

    the T34 was an amazing tank for the early 1940s amazing Armour almost 300mm on the turret an amazing 120mm gun it was just outstanding... (hushed muttering from a person in the room)
    OH that T-34.....i mean it was a Tank.

    • @Goober762
      @Goober762 6 місяців тому +5

      Fellow T34 enjoyer I see

    • @CCP-Lies
      @CCP-Lies 3 місяці тому

      T34 heavy tank was just obsolete when it was being designed, heavy tanks in general just got obsolete after 1945

  • @vertoplusgm1327
    @vertoplusgm1327 6 місяців тому +8

    I hate that T is right next to the R on the keyboard, so whenever I search this thing up and misspell I get a roller coaster of emotions

  • @simbascontinuingstory3100
    @simbascontinuingstory3100 2 роки тому +464

    I have to agree considering that the man who built the t-34 also died in the t-34 due to the heater not working

    • @unclestarz8792
      @unclestarz8792 Рік тому +6

      Lol

    • @teoborges3949
      @teoborges3949 Рік тому +38

      Actually it technicly DIND'T HAD ONE

    • @leovang3425
      @leovang3425 Рік тому +75

      @@teoborges3949 the heater was the engine.

    • @Femris_Adventures
      @Femris_Adventures Рік тому +9

      He had to build it and drive it himself to prove it's worth, and of course he should have thought about installing a heater. I guess the mass produced ones did have a heater, although they cut down on just about everything else.

    • @MadaFakaTOO
      @MadaFakaTOO Рік тому

      ouch

  • @frankpolly
    @frankpolly 2 роки тому +811

    My place of work (A war museum) has a T-34 produced during the war. the entire thing is rusted on the inside. Levers, clutch, front hatch and even the seats are all rusted shut. One time the owner asked me to turn the turret a bit to the right and raise the gun a bit, I asked him how I was supposed to move a rusted tank turret. He told me the turret traversal by hand still worked and to my surprise it did. it worked flawlessly and I could traverse the turret with just a finger. No idea how the Soviets did it, but they did produce a good turret ring even during the war.

    • @Mortablunt
      @Mortablunt 2 роки тому +155

      The Soviets had to prioritize hard. If they had to make a choice between well buffed track cover rivets or a properly balanced turret mount, they chose the turret mount. A lot of the decisions made on the T34 came down to brutal realities of economics and warfare. A tank was only going to typically last a few months in service, and a matter of days at most in combat. So the emphasis became cranking out as many tanks as possible with care prioritized to mission critical components.

    • @DrewLSsix
      @DrewLSsix Рік тому +62

      @@Mortablunt lol, that's hilariously wrong, and if they had done better the tanks COULD have lasted far far longer. Every other army was fully capable or recovering and servicing damaged tanks, Russia abandoned great numbers of them.

    • @Mortablunt
      @Mortablunt Рік тому +27

      @@DrewLSsix Go take it up with historians if you know better.

    • @cowmeatius7151
      @cowmeatius7151 Рік тому +69

      @@DrewLSsix yeah, because they were fighting on the back leg for half the war. Terrain in Russia also isn't good for recovery. It is very muddy in Russia and it lacks proper road networks. During the winter there isn't any mud, but you can't recover a tank in half a meter of snow. The soviets abandoned their tanks because they knew that they could be replaced and it wasn't worth it. allies recover their tanks because they were produced overseas and hard to ship
      Edit: also Russia had massive skilled labour shortages. They literally could not afford or even had the true capabilities to produce a superior tank with numbers to match the T34 during ww2 (which they needed because of the massive front and lots of German armour)

    • @lasskinn474
      @lasskinn474 Рік тому +10

      @@DrewLSsix russia didn't have "every other army" - they had the russian army. this is very important thing for a russian leader to understand.
      so that 'could have lasted far longer' is a bit of a stretch in the circumstances. the biggest design criteria was to be able to make many of them and it did fill that criteria, better than germans.

  • @silent_moron_001
    @silent_moron_001 2 місяці тому +5

    So, correct me if I am wrong.
    German: overengineered.
    Soviet: poorly manufactured.
    U.S.A: made to be light enough to be shipped across an ocean.
    U.K: decent design limited production.

  • @spike.strat1318
    @spike.strat1318 6 місяців тому +8

    This gives me an idea, “I’m not fat, I just have sloped armor”.

  • @madmanmortonyt4890
    @madmanmortonyt4890 Рік тому +244

    Tank Salesman: *Slaps roof of tank*
    T-38: *Roof fractures*
    Tank Salesman: "Shit."

    • @vholes2803
      @vholes2803 Рік тому +28

      Reminds me of...
      Design lead: *Throws metal ball at armoured window*
      Tesla Pickup truck: *'Bulletproof' glass fractures*
      Elon Musk: "Oh my f------ god"

    • @ArcturusOTE
      @ArcturusOTE Рік тому +4

      Tank Salesman: So how would you like Shermans?

    • @brucetucker4847
      @brucetucker4847 Рік тому +1

      "Blyat!"

    • @Katharina-rp7iq
      @Katharina-rp7iq Рік тому

      Was it a bamboo sheet made to look like steel from china?

    • @ladywaffle2210
      @ladywaffle2210 Рік тому +2

      ​@@Katharina-rp7iq Nope, just steel heat-treated at 600 brunell

  • @thevictoryoverhimself7298
    @thevictoryoverhimself7298 2 роки тому +1342

    Percentage of t34 lost in ww2: 78%. Percentage of Sherman’s lost: 18%. Which tank was a death trap, again? (Also the Sherman was vastly more easy to escape in an emergency, so far more crew would survive a vehicle loss)

    • @commisaryarreck3974
      @commisaryarreck3974 2 роки тому

      >On Attack calling in airstrikes on everything that moves while screaming in fear
      Yes...Total superiority against demoralized garrison forces
      How did they fare on the Eastern Front?

    • @trailmix2062
      @trailmix2062 2 роки тому +15

      Source?

    • @antonrudenham3259
      @antonrudenham3259 2 роки тому +30

      The Sherman mate, the Sherman was a death trap especially while it had only one hatch for 3 turret crew and big fat 75mm rounds all down the thinly armoured vertical sponsons, which was actually for most of its WW2 service.
      It was basically an early 30's design automotively with a turret added in 1942 housing a derivative of the famous French 75mm field gun of 1897 vintage.
      It was cobbled together seemingly from bits and bobs laying around a shipyard, an ancient suspension here, an odd engine there made by bolting together many small engines
      or obsolete aircraft engines.

    • @seanassociateproductions1691
      @seanassociateproductions1691 2 роки тому +329

      @@antonrudenham3259 There are two hatches on the turret of the Sherman, with two more on the front hull of the tank, not to mention these were spring loaded making the tank really easy to get out of. Not to mention the escape hatch at the bottom of the tank. The Sherman had a better engine, better top speed, better quality overall in production and ammunition, it was more reliable and could be fixed easier. The T34 had a worse K/D ratio. Don’t forget their lack of radios either with the exception of the platoon leader, so much like the French in 1940 they were communicating with signal flags. It was literally the least reliable tank of the war, breaking down even more often than the Tiger and it’s memed transmission.

    • @antonrudenham3259
      @antonrudenham3259 2 роки тому +5

      @@seanassociateproductions1691 I'm fully aware of the T34"s limitations, especially the M40, 41 and 42 versions.
      The standard M4A1 and M4 kept a single hatch turret right through to 1944 and plenty served after that date.

  • @brealistic3542
    @brealistic3542 5 місяців тому +14

    It wasn't only tanks that were produced like crap just to get higher production it was AIRCRAFT. Many early Russian aircraft had main spar failures because the workers were forced to use worn out drill bits and tools. Using worn out drills forced the Soviet workers to smash bolts through metal with heavy sledge hammers that weakened the main spar of the aircraft almost guaranteeing a wing failure in flight.

    • @CCP-Lies
      @CCP-Lies 3 місяці тому

      The Soviet air force was a flying grave

  • @kjp.7714
    @kjp.7714 5 місяців тому +8

    I bet that this man could teach an entire college semester whilst absolutely shit faced

  • @foldervtolvr
    @foldervtolvr Рік тому +607

    I recently watched a movie called “T-34”. It’s very much a T-34 love letter. I watched it with one of my good friends does as much research as I do and we had a lot of fun tearing apart the way they make the T-34 seem like a god among tanks. The basic plot is simple: A Russian T-34 crew is captured after ambushing a German tank convoy, they are then given a new T-34 that was captured but without any shells to allow them to act as a dummy crew for training. The Germans didn’t take out the bodies from the tank, hiding 5 shells. They use the shells to destroy the German tanks during the training match and make an escape. We laughed a lot at the movie, we joked that the most impressive thing was the fact that the T-34 didn’t break down over the course of the movie.

    • @DakotaofRaptors
      @DakotaofRaptors 11 місяців тому +51

      I remember watching a clip where a Panther shell ricocheted off of the T-34 at a fairly close distance. Didn't the Panther's gun have better penetration capabilities than the Tiger's 88?

    • @Alkivo
      @Alkivo 11 місяців тому +14

      @@DakotaofRaptors not positive but I believe so, and they were good enough to penetrate T-34s at least but that’s a guess

    • @nadarith1044
      @nadarith1044 11 місяців тому +39

      I'd view it more through the lens of the likes of rambo, the tank and its crew were simply exceptional, one-in-a-million, the heroes, that one tank and its commander was a PROTAGONIST, able to defy all odds through his smarts, iron will and sheer fucking grit
      after all everyone and everything else was murderised by the germans in that movie, and it isn't titled t-34s isn't it? just one t-34

    • @TheDarksideFNothing
      @TheDarksideFNothing 11 місяців тому +4

      He used a few clips from that movie in this video

    • @siddhartha7631
      @siddhartha7631 10 місяців тому +14

      @@DakotaofRaptors that panther round should have pen the t-34, it was pretty much point blank range. The only reason why it didn't pen the t-34 cuz of plot armor.

  • @Fusilier7
    @Fusilier7 2 роки тому +648

    One of the most interesting reports I have read about the T-34 came from Israel. After the six day war, the Israelis captured many Egyptian and Syrian T-34s, most of them had broken down, thrown tracks, or trapped in the dunes, the Israelis tested them out, and discovered the T-34 was scorching hot, the desert made the interior as hot as a boiler room, the Soviets gave the tanks to the Arabs, without telling them how vulnerable the T-34 is to heat. The T-34 was impotent against sand, which would jam the turret, choke the engine, and paralyze the tracks, but the biggest flaw the Israelis discovered, was the T-34 was too vulnerable to infantry attacks, there were so many blind spots, infantry could sneak up on it, and destroy the tank with a recoilless rifle, or capture the tank by storming it.

    • @AllMightyKingBowser
      @AllMightyKingBowser 2 роки тому +17

      I wonder what they thought about the Panzer IV

    • @mileselon1339
      @mileselon1339 2 роки тому

      Sooo the T-34s would just melt anyone inside... Why .. why wouldn't the Russians tell them about the heat? Did they not know about Heat strokes, You can die by that stuff! What did the Russians Believe that the T-34 would remain so cold in there because it came out of Russia?

    • @coaxill4059
      @coaxill4059 2 роки тому +42

      @@AllMightyKingBowser I can guess.
      Paper thin armor makes it not ideal for assaulting, but it's got decent vision and a decent gun. Not great in the desert, but from the sound of it, not as bad as the T34.

    • @Tuck-Shop
      @Tuck-Shop 2 роки тому +27

      @@AllMightyKingBowser They did capture at least 1 during the six day war as the Syrians used Panzer IV's. Am looking into it but so far it seems the Syrians were at least able to use the Pz IV in the desert. Well they did serve in the North African front during WW2 so that alone says it was better than the T34 in the heat.

    • @zaiz6018
      @zaiz6018 2 роки тому +40

      I fully believe all of these flaws are true
      But I will mention that the T-34 was not designed to fight in hot desert conditions without infantry support.
      It's not a matter of design failure, it's a matter of equipment being used wrong. Like a knife to a gun fight

  • @atomicsquirrel6457
    @atomicsquirrel6457 10 місяців тому +21

    I have watched this video over and over, and I am repeatedly struck by how much the first historian looks like a thumb.

  • @igornikitovitchnosorog874
    @igornikitovitchnosorog874 5 місяців тому +8

    I think i've heard the word "rugged" too many times in the military to justify the general mediocrity and lack of simple comfort to know what it really means.
    (=that means "we don't have shit but don't complain)

  • @SomeCatWithGlasses
    @SomeCatWithGlasses 2 роки тому +1681

    The T-34 is just the physical embodiment of the phrase, “Great on paper, horrible in execution.”

    • @user-xh9pu2wj6b
      @user-xh9pu2wj6b Рік тому +138

      except it wasn't great on paper either, just decent at best.

    • @ThePandoraGuy
      @ThePandoraGuy Рік тому +42

      It's the embodiment of the Zerg Rush. Throw on enemy until enemy is no more.

    • @captainbean3114
      @captainbean3114 Рік тому +30

      You can say that about a lot of CCCP stuff

    • @udbhavsingh8608
      @udbhavsingh8608 Рік тому +32

      Soooooo , communism ?

    • @ThePandoraGuy
      @ThePandoraGuy Рік тому +38

      @@udbhavsingh8608 Yes and No. In fact, there isn't a single faith, form of government or organization in the history of the universe, that did not sooner or later begin to exploit and bullshit their way to the top.

  • @paulyguitary7651
    @paulyguitary7651 2 роки тому +775

    Poor logistics and soldiers quickly abandoning equipment, surely that could never happen again….what? It has? In Ukraine you say? Oh…

    • @charlesmcgill2974
      @charlesmcgill2974 2 роки тому +57

      Oh and vehicles that don’t allow you to escape if your the driver and you get hit with a anti tank round, referring to a photo I saw from Ukraine with a bmp-2s front completely split open the driver still visible.

    • @kajmak64bit76
      @kajmak64bit76 2 роки тому +9

      @@charlesmcgill2974 source? I wanna see that lol

    • @Tacdelio
      @Tacdelio 2 роки тому +1

      @@charlesmcgill2974 you see the one where the tank gets smoked and the crew go flying? ua-cam.com/video/fngPVC4V4Gk/v-deo.html

    • @rex9502
      @rex9502 2 роки тому +3

      @@charlesmcgill2974 where can we see that?

    • @chaselaqua6676
      @chaselaqua6676 2 роки тому

      For a moment I couldn't tell what era you were talking about lol

  • @ZayJustThat
    @ZayJustThat 2 місяці тому +4

    The reason why the t34 was good was cause it was cheap and easily repairable, not cause of its angled armer or its gun

  • @shelbylover1359
    @shelbylover1359 Рік тому +65

    The M4 Sherman: the best example of a tank that has a great mix of quality and quantity

    • @codyraugh6599
      @codyraugh6599 10 місяців тому

      While people give the Sherman shit, it was a acceptable quality thank produced in vast quantities and thus it was a war winner. Because the detail those "quantity is a quality of its own" dipshits forget is that 0 multiplied by a trillion is still zero, one multiplied by a million is one illion. And 2 multiplied by 500 thousand is also one million. The T-34 is a zero, the Sherman is the 2, while the Tiger was a 4 multiplied by 36

    • @Alex-pj8nz
      @Alex-pj8nz 10 місяців тому +1

      Can’t run a Sherman tank now.

    • @U_Go_Boom
      @U_Go_Boom 10 місяців тому +3

      I would say the t-34 also fits that example.

    • @codyraugh6599
      @codyraugh6599 10 місяців тому

      @@U_Go_Boom except the T-34 is worthless. A rolling tomb, if you can't see a enemy even when they shoot you, your useless, more Russian Field Guns killed German Tanks than the T-34 and the T-34 is also the only tank of the war to have the distinction of suffering a more than 100% casualty rate in a battle of WW2 which coincidentally happens to be one of the largest tank battles in human history, a battle won by Russian Infantry. This why I hold the dumbass who wanted to cancel all Russian AT gun production as the biggest idiot of WW2.

    • @DeadNoob451
      @DeadNoob451 9 місяців тому +1

      @@U_Go_Boom have you even watched this video ?

  • @notbadsince97
    @notbadsince97 2 роки тому +434

    “The T-34 is a bad tank with major issues”
    Soviets: “We know that’s why are have a modernization program to give it torsion bar suspension, a 3 man current, and better sights/optics.”
    *Operation Barbarossa happens*
    Soviets: “Well shit”

    • @jacksteel1539
      @jacksteel1539 2 роки тому +60

      Yeah I really dislike this video tbh, he says a lot of this stuff like the Soviets weren't aware of the issues at all and completely strawman's arguments that I don't think I've ever seen people make for the T-34.

    • @castor3020
      @castor3020 2 роки тому +100

      @@jacksteel1539 It is a bad tank, of course the designers were aware of it but this video is pointed at tankies that think that T-34 is a good tank. If you decide to position yourself into that strawman's position its on you for getting your feelings hurt about it.

    • @shrektheintelllectual3615
      @shrektheintelllectual3615 2 роки тому

      @@castor3020 it is was at least better than what americans had

    • @jacksteel1539
      @jacksteel1539 2 роки тому +38

      @@castor3020 He say's he would take 100 tigers over 1000 T-34s which is completely baffling.
      He doesn't compare any tanks to it in their early stages of production and he seems to only compare the T-34 vs the worst things it could face but not what against it would face 90% of the time or for the first 2 years of the war.
      The video can be pointed at whoever it wants to point at but it's not correct just because "tankies bad"

    • @jacksteel1539
      @jacksteel1539 2 роки тому +1

      @@castor3020 ua-cam.com/video/WE6mnPmztoQ/v-deo.html
      This is what Hitler thought of the Soviet tank numbers

  • @sadlyimcringe6670
    @sadlyimcringe6670 Рік тому +646

    "From the factory to the front line" could just mean that "freshly" made T-34s were taken to the front line instantly

    • @litkeys3497
      @litkeys3497 Рік тому +132

      Not in this case. The stories he's referring to are of tanks rolling off the production line at a factory in a city under attack, then a crew jumping in them and driving it outside directly into combat with the Germans. You hear similar (albeit with more verification) stories about factories in Leningrad building PPS43 submachine guns and testing them by shooting out the window.

    • @enriqueperezarce5485
      @enriqueperezarce5485 Рік тому +58

      @@litkeys3497 I think it’s more realistic to build guns under attack then a goddamn tank that is functioning and doesn’t break down

    • @ferblancart8669
      @ferblancart8669 Рік тому +1

      I always assumed that expresion wasnt literal, but if some tell it as factual well, he wrong or extremely punctual event

    • @Niever
      @Niever Рік тому +2

      @litkeys didn't Stalin already order the moving of said factories well before the Germans got to any major cities? I do recall one in Leningrad especially.

    • @ansbremen
      @ansbremen Рік тому +27

      @@Niever Kirov factory was definetly functioning during siege, but it produced KV tanks, not T-34.

  • @Mr.Manta5988
    @Mr.Manta5988 4 місяці тому +4

    I would have never thought that an hour-long video on the t-34 would become one of my favourite rewatch videos

  • @tieriaveda4165
    @tieriaveda4165 9 місяців тому +3

    On the topic of sloped armor, we as humans have understood sloped armor is better at deflecting blows than flat armor, which is why all plate armor is sloped after the 14th century.

  • @hats1642
    @hats1642 Рік тому +2327

    The T-34 was definitely one of the tanks of the war.

    • @Frommerman
      @Frommerman Рік тому +52

      It did the thing it needed to do: Drive out the Nazis on the ground and halt their attempts to colonize Russia the same way the US colonized the west. They didn't need an engineering marvel to do that. They needed lots of things to throw at the overengineered Nazi shit. They made that, and so they won the war.
      Engineering isn't about making something shiny, complicated, and sturdy. It's about completing a task with the resources on hand. Usually, making things complicated and sturdy is a good strategy for accomplishing that, but it isn't the only one. And, crucially, it wasn't one the Soviets had available to them. So they used the resources they did have to win the war they were actually fighting. Meanwhile, the Nazis were fighting an insane ideological war by trying to prove German technology was superior, instead of fighting the enemies they had made with the resources available to them. The Nazis were fighting a fake history book instead of the Soviets with their tank designs. It's no wonder they losy.

    • @deennice6035
      @deennice6035 Рік тому +213

      @@Frommerman bruh

    • @pyrys8807
      @pyrys8807 Рік тому +147

      @@Frommerman Bruh

    • @tinand
      @tinand Рік тому +138

      @@Frommerman bruh

    • @watcheroftheyoutube6794
      @watcheroftheyoutube6794 Рік тому +127

      @@Frommerman Bruh

  • @D.M.S.
    @D.M.S. 2 роки тому +364

    So two nation with flawed tanks fought against each other and the smaller nation which industry was bombed into pieces eventually lost, while the other just kept producing?
    Mild Shock!

    • @gamerdrache6076
      @gamerdrache6076 Рік тому +10

      atleast german tanks had better armout and firepower

    • @acemarvel1564
      @acemarvel1564 Рік тому +51

      Two virgins fighting while the Sherman chads write the mother and fatherlands divorce

    • @acemarvel1564
      @acemarvel1564 Рік тому +2

      @Arn Francis Tapic 🇺🇦 the great grandpa of the Bombastic Bradley

    • @acemarvel1564
      @acemarvel1564 Рік тому +2

      @Arn Francis Tapic 🇺🇦 Sherman the persevering shall forever watch over his kin proudly defend the land of the free from the unscrupulous Regimes of the world

    • @gamerdrache6076
      @gamerdrache6076 Рік тому +3

      @Arn Francis Tapic 🇺🇦 ok then why did the americans and british lose countless tanks against 6 germans with anti tank guns they were driving into the field and lost a huge amount

  • @SpaceCase132
    @SpaceCase132 6 місяців тому +11

    Considering all the myths regarding tanks like the T-34 and the Tiger, when do you think we could get a video on Franz Staudegger, a Tiger commander who reportedly took out 2 T-34s with grenades and up to 20 with his crew?

  • @sylvainprigent6234
    @sylvainprigent6234 6 місяців тому +6

    5 cm PAK gun that Germans had could and did kill T34.
    7.5 cm PAK gun that came later did the same, only better. (Though large AT guns were not very maneuverable and quite unwieldy)

  • @happynightmaremonster488
    @happynightmaremonster488 2 роки тому +39

    The game Tetris was actually a game about fitting crew into a t34 in the most efficient way possible

  • @solreaver83
    @solreaver83 2 роки тому +878

    Also hear the stories of hit t-34 charging heroically into their enemy in suicidal ram runs. This however I've learned is BS because the tank didn't have an accelerator but a brake, the design often meant taking a hit killed the driver so unable to hold the brake anymore the tank would drive in a straight line until destroyed or hitting something big.

    • @rabidbeaver167
      @rabidbeaver167 Рік тому +60

      omg lol...

    • @diggman88
      @diggman88 Рік тому +170

      That would make the tank even less survivable because unless the tank is in neutral The crew can't dismount safely as it goes on a runaway.

    • @AJPDing
      @AJPDing Рік тому +49

      I would like to see a source for this

    • @Joe45-91
      @Joe45-91 Рік тому +99

      @@AJPDing agreed. That sounds like an incredibly stupid design

    • @serjacklucern4584
      @serjacklucern4584 Рік тому +38

      it reminds me the story of the "italian ghost tanks" (basically the tankers of the italian M13/40 and M14/41 used to put an heavy object on the accelerator. so in some case, even bursting in flames some italians tanks keeped moving fowards as the soul of the driver wouldn't leave the engine.

  • @dudeguybro
    @dudeguybro 3 місяці тому +3

    As an engineer, I genuinely appreciate your emphasis on poor build quality. Any great design can be completely ruined if manufactured improperly or too quickly. There's a reason why build standards are put in place by manufacturers. In this case, it just cost the Soviets a lot of lives. It seems like it would've been an absolute nightmare to be in a T-34 tank crew.

  • @flasher702
    @flasher702 4 місяці тому +3

    @25:03 As I can actually read cyrillic: it was really hard to read that! I was like " 'the gutsy'? the gutsy what? OHHHHH, 'the GUN'!"

  • @damonedrington3453
    @damonedrington3453 Рік тому +795

    “They were quickly abandoned by their crews when they broke down, or ran out of fuel or ammo”
    Hey, hey I’ve seen this one before, this is a classic!

    • @morvish1925
      @morvish1925 Рік тому +97

      what do you mean, it's brand new?

    • @edug1168
      @edug1168 Рік тому +29

      Yes, that comment aged well.

    • @TheDarksideFNothing
      @TheDarksideFNothing 11 місяців тому +18

      ​@@morvish1925fucking perfect hahaha

    • @1Learn2Swim3
      @1Learn2Swim3 10 місяців тому +5

      Some things never change

    • @magmafeline8239
      @magmafeline8239 9 місяців тому +8

      A farmer in Ukraine* and its free real-estate

  • @chikhai
    @chikhai 2 роки тому +305

    Just a completely anecdotal note re spalling...
    Many years ago when I was in engineering, a company I was working with at the time decided to source their control panels from Russia. A job we were working on at the time had very thin margins, and rather than use our traditional suppliers based in Germany, we decided to go for the cheaper option of a Russian supplier (which was closely tied with Brazil on cost, who in retrospect we might have been better off going with).
    For anyone uninitiated with electrical control panels, you basically have a metal box, with a metal base plate mounted inside to house all of the electrical switchgear. The base plate is drilled and then components pop-rivetted or tap & died to mount them.
    The first base plate I started working on had stress fractures when using a dot punch on them. Yup, a simple dot punch managed to fracture a piece of steel. This was a running trend with all of the Russian kit we bought for the job. When trying to use a tap & die you could hear it cracking as you were trying to work it. I was only in my early 20s at the time, but one of my senior colleagues said it was due to shit steel that was probably down to impurities.
    Having gotten a lot older and more knowledgeable since then; shit steel and heat treatment doesn't seem like a good recipe for effective armour. If they were cranking out such poor quality steel in the 90s, just imagine how bad it was during the 30s/40s. Russia just can't into good steel production. No wonder tank crews were getting shredded.

    • @paullakowski2509
      @paullakowski2509 2 роки тому +1

      When your realise the horrifying price in human life its embarrassing No western history would gloss over the cost USSR paid for their "victory". T-34 = 85% FATALITIES ????

    • @wagoneer9311
      @wagoneer9311 Рік тому +1

      Makes me want to run right out to the range and do some target practice with Ole mosin

    • @joshuasitzema9920
      @joshuasitzema9920 Рік тому +31

      @@wagoneer9311 firearms you have to have specific tolerances with otherwise it blows up in your face. Even with the emergency Rifles that the volkstrurm were using, the barrels were treated with high quality because YOU DONT WANT A FUCKING EXPLOSION IN YOUR FACE.. just. No

    • @trolleriffic
      @trolleriffic Рік тому +30

      The crazy thing is that Soviet metallurgy could also be very advanced and ahead of anything seen in the West at the time as was the case with some of their liquid rocket engines. There was no lack of talent and ability to do things well but I think the system and culture people were working in was often dysfunctional.

    • @vindobonaification
      @vindobonaification Рік тому +21

      I used to work for a big company that produces refractory material for all kind of furnaces and kilns, but mainly for the steel industry. Once I was in Essen in Germany at a Thyssen Krupp plant. One of the employees who worked there for nearly all of his life told me about the time they imported "high grade" steel from Russia in the 90s because they couldn't keep with orders and had to outsource production to a degree. Turned out they quickly went to use that steel as scrap metal in their converters and as a cruel side note some people who had to handle that (s)crap metal for an extended period of time lost hair.
      It's miracle how they could send up space rockets and a space station.

  • @martinnermut2582
    @martinnermut2582 9 місяців тому +5

    The lonely T-34 (and the only tank presented) on Red Putin Army Parade in Moscow 2023 was build in our country after war, in Czechoslovakia :-)

    • @bbbruh8809
      @bbbruh8809 9 місяців тому

      Like those russian imbeciles couldnt buy USED t34s from middle east or collectors

  • @larryfontenot9018
    @larryfontenot9018 2 місяці тому +2

    "Americans at the Aberdeen Proving Ground didn't properly maintain the tank." Neither did Russian tank crews. Getting to the fittings for engine maintenance involved dismantling the armor louvers installed on the engine deck, and that was such a pain in the backside that precious few of them ever bothered. With the numbers of T-34s being cranked out, it was much easier to drive one around until it broke down and then hike back and get a new one. Rinse and repeat.

  • @mrkeogh
    @mrkeogh 2 роки тому +630

    On Soviet logistics: had the Western Allies not supplied them with lots and lots of *trucks* (not weapons, just boring Studebaker trucks) via the northern convoys the Soviets would have been fairly well fucked.
    They got 200,000 trucks, and absolutely loved every single one of them.
    They used 'em for everything, even towing artillery and mounting Katyusha rockets on the back. Logistics, baby.

    • @paullakowski2509
      @paullakowski2509 2 роки тому +103

      Soviets built 130,000 trucks from 1942-44; mostly 1.5 ton. Wehrmacht built 200,000 during this same period, with average 2.5-3 ton lift each. USA % COMMONWEALTH shipped 460,000 trucks and light transports. The combined allied LL trucks could lift 900,000 tons supplies munitions etc , while Soviet trucks could haul , 355;000 tons ...in other-words 3/4 of the entire RED ARMY MOTORIZED LIFT CAPACITY CAME FROM LL.
      OPERATION BARBAROSSA V-III A ; NIGEL ASKEY..pp 108/109.,....2016.

    • @_arthur_360
      @_arthur_360 2 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/bzsKnKcb1-A/v-deo.html

    • @rooseveltbrentwood9654
      @rooseveltbrentwood9654 2 роки тому +98

      Ah how the Soviets loved to forget that. No comrade, capitalism bad, never mind we have to buy wheat from the America on credit! (btw this happened in the 70s’s so no blaming it on Stalin).

    • @GeistInTheMachine
      @GeistInTheMachine 2 роки тому +16

      The Soviets provided a lot of the main tip of the spear. The other Allies tempered said tip, and kept them from Communising all of Europe.
      It's all well and good to beat one's chest for their "side" or team, but the fact is that if not for the Soviet people's tenacity and Allied logistics/armaments and soldiers, the Germans would or could have overrun everything.
      Factories were critical to the war. It isn't as though the soviet people sat on their ass and won through sheer numbers alone.
      Look at what Japan managed to do to China. The Chinese got butchered at Nanking and all over the place. Numbers alone do not win wars.
      People are very myopic, and that is why we have so many issues in the world. I don't buy either the Western nor Eastern/Russian narrative in full.
      They are all full of it, and high on their own supply, causing major problems for themselves and everyone/everything around them.

    • @taccovert4
      @taccovert4 2 роки тому +60

      @@GeistInTheMachine They're all full of it. But there is the one additional note. In addition to trucks, fuel, metals, and so on and so forth, the Western allies also provided the Soviets with a BUNCH OF TANKS. Some, like the Valentine, weren't particularly well liked and went by the wayside. The Shermans, however, were front-line tanks and the sherman crews had to defend their tanks from looting by their own forces as the quality of even such sundries as the seats was so good.

  • @NinjaRodent
    @NinjaRodent 2 роки тому +1205

    The fact that you called them "commieboos" and not their more common name "tankies" is a crime given this video's subject matter.

    • @5t3v0esque
      @5t3v0esque 2 роки тому +158

      Ive also heard slaviboos for all things Slavic, both pre and post curtain.
      Also I think freeaboo works better than freedomboo personally.

    • @revilo178
      @revilo178 2 роки тому +1

      LOL

    • @GorbadIronclaw
      @GorbadIronclaw 2 роки тому +283

      In my experience, "tankies" are usually not military enthusiasts, but rather commiefascists who think Stalin Did Nothing Wrong, basically

    • @revilo178
      @revilo178 2 роки тому +133

      @@GorbadIronclaw So the equivalent of neo-Nazis, not of wehraboos. Although I suppose there is quite a bit of overlap in both cases.

    • @GorbadIronclaw
      @GorbadIronclaw 2 роки тому +91

      @@revilo178 Maybe. The extreme left always talks revolution but typically has zero grasp of the military implications of such an endeavor. Meanwhile, their right wing equivalents typically worship military force and firearms

  • @stephenwest6738
    @stephenwest6738 6 місяців тому +12

    I don't think I fully grasped the gullibility and overall stupidity of Russia until I saw an interview with a Russian woman that claimed that Americans were both "fat" and "fleeing America because they were starving." Im not saying they were at different times. She said these 5 seconds apart.

    • @notenoughmemes1847
      @notenoughmemes1847 6 місяців тому

      We do have a growing obesity epidemic, but those people affected aren’t fleeing the country because they can’t access food, we do also have people who are food insecure, few million if I recall. The problem is poverty causing these people to eat cheap foods that are terrible for them, or not being able to afford food in the first place which leads to them being malnourished and not obese. Think people are more likely to flee this country if Project 2025 goes through than because they’re fat and starving. It’s like she vaguely knew things but also had smooth brain at the same time.

    • @vv1zzard870
      @vv1zzard870 6 місяців тому +2

      @@notenoughmemes1847 The problem is that people who buy cheap junk food because they dont want/know how/want to learn how to to cook. Like bro just cook some fking crops, vegetables or maybe some stew instead of buying frozen lasagna

    • @notenoughmemes1847
      @notenoughmemes1847 6 місяців тому

      @@vv1zzard870 Part of it’s the individual, part of it’s a society that constantly advertises that crap in their face 24/7 with industries lobbying to keep food unhealthy. The amount of power the sugar industry has is astounding, think they bribed the WHO into releasing false articles a few years back. Lot of people weren’t taught to eat healthy or develop good habits, which is both the fault of their parents and an education system for not instilling it in them young. Groceries, especially quality food is just plain expensive these days, even more so with people having less money to spend on things and the rich getting richer.

  • @dariuszzukowski5244
    @dariuszzukowski5244 10 місяців тому +8

    Around 45 min there are scenes from a Polish tv series "Four Tankmen and a Dog" about a brave, honourable Polish crew of a T-34 they called Readhead (no. 102), fighting within the Red Army ranks. Literally all the kids from the 60s up until the 80s, maybe even 90s, watched and loved this cult classic series. I used to reenact scenes from it when playing with my friends when I was, like, 9 years old. Everyone wanted to play as Johnny, the resolute tank commander. We did not care then that the show was actually (also) a piece of socialist propaganda, supporting the mythos of the invincible Red Army, superb T-34 tank, and USSR always in friendly alliance with Poland.

    • @Barbarian75
      @Barbarian75 10 місяців тому +1

      Watched it on Soviet TV in the 80s. Loved it. True, it was pure soviet propaganda.

    • @bogdanzalan84
      @bogdanzalan84 9 місяців тому +1

      I mean they were definetly not indestructible since their tank blew up twice throughout the show if I recall correctly

    • @dariuszzukowski5244
      @dariuszzukowski5244 9 місяців тому

      @@bogdanzalan84 I never said "indestructible". :) I was literally shocked when they lost the turret, afair.

    • @bogdanzalan84
      @bogdanzalan84 9 місяців тому

      @@dariuszzukowski5244 I was shocked too. I was like surely that is the end for them but next episode they just climb out from the haystack that they crashed into. Oh man I have to watch it again it is such a nice series. Fortunately it has dubbing in my language as well :)