Model minority myth only applies to East Asians. Thank you Joe for informing and educating everyone about how that doesn't apply to Southeast Asians like us Hmong, the Thai, Lao, Viet, and Cambodians, etc. This creates the imposter effect for many of us.
luvly lisa yeah I feel bad for southeast Asians because they are held to the Asian standards but their backgrounds are very similar to poor blacks and Hispanics.
Jason Seo Yeah why do white people bald so fast. Or atleast more commonly. My best friend is only 25 and he decided to just shave his head because he started to bald alot.
What Bart and Steve said is true, if you looks like a tourist in Mexico they charge you more for stuff. I'm Mexican and speak Spanish so I've never been over charged. But I have seen white people get charged more for stuff.
I have heard of this in Middle School Spanish class. You get charged more if you don't speak Spanish in Mexico or you get charged more, not because you're "White".
I'm Mexican/Spanish, but I'm fair skin. Even speaking spanish as first language I would still get over charged. My mom told me it was due to my being fair skin cause there is still a classist nature. I mean I didn't believe that shit till I was hanging out with my cousins and they were saying how there is hella internal racism between white and dark mexicans/spanish. This could be just area issues like some of my family is in Mexico City, but most live in the border towns Ojinaga and Tijuana or just inside Chihuahua. So, this is all just my own experience.
I also am Mexican and I speak Spanish and that has happened to me when I am paying transportation fees like it could be 25 pesos and they be charging me 50 pesos
Why does Steve look like he just came back from a run? edit: Steve is funny af, I like it when he guests in JKNews. (If Steve ever reads these comments)
I agree with Joe that some social activists should pick and choose their battles, but we shouldn't try to silent or disregard their concerns either, if they feel its important. We all gotta have a civil discussion and present all of our arguments, because many of the activists seem divided.
I feel like this is an example of, take your money somewhere else. Harvard does not hold the status that it use to have. It's an overly priced diploma mill. People can just pay for 1 course and get a degree, Tyra Banks and many other people of wealth has done it. Unless it's a specific skill that school excels at (John Hopkins ~medical) take your money somewhere else. That's a private school, they don't have to let any Asians in. The real question should be, why do you want to pay 100K to a school that discriminates towards your ethnicity that's not in the top for any specialized skill?
Also really liked Joe's point about lumping all asians together when it came to Southeast Asian vs. East Asian cuz it's something a majority of people don't realize
@BTS Army Average... There are many low IQ east Asians. But if you average out those numbers, they have overall higher IQ score. Even the ones who have the lowest IQ have 10+ score. I have you got my point.
What's sad is Harvard I'd justifying on why they discriminate against Asian American applicants. It's not their fault that Asians have the hishest success rate
Thing i dont like about forcing diversity is, its not genuine. They’re pleasing people so they dont get upset and taking in people for what they are and not who they are. Just like a token (insert whatever) person.
I remember there was a fresh prince episode where uncle phil was getting accepted into a prestigious Golf Committee but he declined when he found out it was solely to be a token black guy
Ok so y'all got the whole thing wrong on the Japanese case. It is the biggest medical school and lowered women's score tests because when they do become doctors, they believe all women will leave the workforce after having children. Literally no one here in Japan was ok with it and the university was not "upfront" with this discrimination. This didn't only upset people because the medical industry is already known to be very sexist, but also because of all the old people we have and will continue to have need to be taken care but aren't because of the shortage of medical workers.
Actually this is related to the reason why there is a low birthrate. Once a women has a child in Japan, the society there expects and pressures you to become a house wife. No women wants that. And when pregnant the women's job will be at risk or receive pressure since Japan has such a strict workaholic society.
It should be about intelligence when to accepting students into ivy league schools. it just so happens that Asians are killing it right now. if the school wants other ethnicities, then those kids need to step it up and work harder. if they cant make the criteria then they are out. simple as that.
I think you mean harvard who is discriminating against asians. I just said the acceptance to schools like harvard should be based on intelligence like having really exceptional test scores not race. which is the opposite of what a racist would say. if you meet the academic standards of the ivy league school then you are in and if you dont then you cant get in.
Garhon Wong I agree but progressives will say that your opinion is racist because ultimately the schools will be filled with Asians and Caucasians and not Hispanic or blacks
*Affirmative Action* (Based on the 1600 point SAT) Blacks get an extra 230+ SAT points Latinos get an extra 185+ SAT points Asians LOSE 50+ SAT points (Similar studies show even higher numbers: Blacks gaining 300+, Asians losing 100+) _Admission Preferences for Minority Students, Athletes, and Legacies at Elite Universities_ (2004) _The Opportunity Cost of Admission Preferences at Elite Universities_ (2005) ~ Thomas J. Espenshade, Princeton University ~ Chang Y. Chung, Princeton University ~ Joan L. Walling, Princeton University ...
tbh I agree with this statement. I knew a classmate whose AA got into Harvard, but he eventually dropped out because he couldn’t handle the work load.. He score less than my other classmates who didnt even get into harvard
I know it was a joke, but the diversity on JkNews has made it way more entertaining. Imagine JKNews without Mexican jokes, Steve, or Bose's shenanigans.
I’m a “gifted kid” who cruised through school and got a 33 on the ACT without studying and Ivy League schools started sending me stuff to get me to apply. I’m attending community college instead. Harvard, Yale, all the fools who sent me stuff are just popular because they’re old. And if the classes really are harder, then I’ll just be stressed and sad. Too far from home, too much money, just sounds like a waste. Mind you, I’m Hispanic, female, and low-income. The only reason to go to an Ivy League school is if you want to be a lawyer or a politician and the name will be useful when getting hired. I’d rather just go to community college and state school for the degree and then start hustling. 🤷🏻♀️
If you guys ever start doing skits again, you should make one where there's a substitute in for tiff's place in jkn. But the sub is a thug and won't let the crew interrupt him.
This channel always cheers me up especially today 8/12/18 my dog was killed by a speeding driver and it hurts so much...it hurts so much but you managed to make me stop crying thank you
10:45 thank you joe i 100% agree with you. Why do white ppl have to be diverse in there own country/continent if they want to keep it white then they have every right to.
Malinda Uboh I am not talking about the USA I am taking about the continent of Europe and the countries in it. But it kind of is whites constitute almost 70% of the population not including white hispanic Americans
Jayson Samuels why is everyone assuming they are suppressing Asian scores to let in whites when the real statistics show they are suppressing whites scores also to actually let in blacks.
I've read somewhere that some schools take away 50 points if you're Asian, nothing if you're white and add 50 points if you're black.. edit: I've heard*... and I wasn't sure about the numbers, nor if it's true or not
*Affirmative Action* (Based on the 1600 point SAT) Blacks get an extra 230+ SAT points Latinos get an extra 185+ SAT points Asians LOSE 50+ SAT points (Similar studies show even higher numbers: Blacks gaining 300+, Asians losing 100+) _Admission Preferences for Minority Students, Athletes, and Legacies at Elite Universities_ (2004) _The Opportunity Cost of Admission Preferences at Elite Universities_ (2005) Thomas J. Espenshade, Princeton University Chang Y. Chung, Princeton University Joan L. Walling, Princeton University ...
*As an Asian, I agree that Universities have too many Asians, other minorities and Whites don't get enough quotas. HR 392 is a bill that will be passed this September that will remove the per country cap on Green Cards, which will allow Indians on H1-B / H4 visas to get 80% of Green Cards and America will soon look like India.*
Why don’t colleges just accept applications without knowing race?? The application essays and other statistics will already show how diverse the applicant is and what their personality is like...
There's still a lot of East Asians that doesn't have that either. You're talking about the 2nd gen Asian Americans and beyond. Fresh off the Boat Asians and their kids may have tougher times because of the money and what not. If you look at places like Chinatown, you can still see that they don't live in the nicest areas. On top of that, at least the Jewish, Irish, and Italian are from Europe and look white, Asians on the other-hand don't, so we don't get that luxury
because it creates conversation and is mostly funny, some people enjoy these humorous interactions, sorry if you don't but its kinda part of her job to talk, but her effort is appreciated at least by me
havent watched in a while but was very impressed by how joe gave a very powerful statement, about the parachute babies and i agree with his statement 100%
My friend goes to Harvard and she told me that the reason as to why is because Asian people in her example she specifically used Koreans and Chinese is that when they write their essays and personal statements they don't really show their individualist personality and that's where they lack on the "scale"
The closest thing to affirmative action in Australia (specifically Victoria) is where your final score can become higher if you are financially disadvantaged, live in a low socio-economic area, have family issues that significantly impacted your VCE studies or have an aboriginal/torres strait islander background (the only race that has a disadvantage).
Shannon Park in America if you can prove your part Native American you get to attend college for free because the Europeans took their land It comes out of the rich people’s tax dollars
paola vazquez in America you literally committed genocide on native Americans you didn't just "take their land". I'm from Canada we did just as much fucked up shit but at least they teach us that here
I've been watching JK since I was like, 10 and you've taught me a lot, honestly. Like how to deal with different types of people and situations. You guys are really cool❤️❤️❤️
10:45 I completely agree with that. Europe should've the right to stay European majority just like Japan should be Japanese majority, India should be Indian majority, etc. But US, Canada, etc like countries aren't the same. It's OK for a country with indigenous population in majority to want to stay at least 90% indigenous majority but those with indigenous minority can't claim the same right for their majority who are not indigenous. But I think this Harvard issue is not about white students but students of colour not getting admission due to Asian students.
Steve Prefontaine once said something along the lines like, "You cannot propel yourself forward by patting yourself on the back". I wonder what else he has seen in his days.
This needed to be said, I've seen so many South Asians have to go to foreign medical schools or local colleges instead of ivy leagues because of affirmative action
21. something percent and a 17.6 percent is not that big of a difference. And Harvard came out with a statement saying that Asian Americans in have have grown 29 percent in the last decade.
JK had such a great conversation about freedom of speech in the last video, so I was a little dissapointed in this coversation. The reason they were giving Asians lower scores was because statistically they out preform all other groups across the board. Now that minorities are being directly affected by the results of Affirmitive Action (in a negative way), they see that this type of program is not fair. *Affirmitive Action is justified and legal discrimination.* It does not adress the real issues that persist in these minority communities and instead only perpetuates a victim culture. Affirmitive Action is something that should have only been a temporary fix, but the government has been sitting on their asses allowing the real issues to continue. More and more people are becoming aware of this and understand that discrimination is discrimination and it's wrong and always will be, no matter the circumstance. Edit: It's being argued that Affirmitive action goes against discrimination laws. I'm not American so I'm not completely sure if they're talking about the constituion (bigger deal), or just regular laws.
2:54 "21.3% of white Americans are getting a 1-2" "compared too 17.6% of Asian Americans" "keeping Asian American scores low" *But she just said that white Americans are on average getting lower scores than their Asian counterparts* Unless lower is better in this case, am I missing something?
I just read up on it, all categories are rated from 1-6 with 1 being the best. Tiff's fault since she said "keeping Asian American scores LOWER", she should have said higher. The difference is only 3% (which is negligible) so I'm not sure it's fair to claim racism.
I've heard on a few sources show that, there is discrimination on Asians ending hire education. Most common was a massive deduction on SAT scores. Asians get penalized as huge amount while other race or ethnic backgrounds get points.
I don't know about Harvard... however, my friend's kid who's at MIT told me that in half of his classes, *ALL* of the students were Asian(East Asian, as in Japanese/Korean/Chinese/Taiwanese)
It’s a 4% difference... There were SOOO many assumptions made after just giving those two number differences. “Oh, they’re doing it on purpose to keep Asians out.” Unless there’s some other information left out I don’t see how everyone is jumping to that conclusion immediately except just because Tiffany said that’s what they were doing.
1:15 I love it when the girls are lost in the guy humor and they take shit so seriously. You can tell geo and tiff were taking that shit personally while the other guys were laughing their ass off.
I am happy to see asians is doing well but again getting discriminated. As an asian I have felt discrimination on first road in my job ever since. Its insane how fucking stupid some people are for thinking they can get away with it.
Once in middle school, our teachers gave us a talk on being PC. I asked why it was so bad that asians were considered smart as opposed to the negative stereotypes other minorities get. She goes, what if an asian isn’t so good at math and he feels too much pressure to perform. I said I’d rather feel pressure to overachieve than lose opportunities being seen as ghetto sooooo I got detention🤷🏾♀️
In my opinion, as an Asian American, I do think that colleges such as Harvard may be top of the line education wise, but are definitely focused on the college lifestyle/culture that the students experience too. In saying this, the stereotype of Asian parents (especially those of parachute babies) are very strict and have high expectations of their children who are focused only on studying and not the community and lifestyle aspects of University. Which can also lead me to believe why they gave them lower scores in personality. It could be Harvard trying to create this image that they want.
Yeah I can't believe that happened in Japan. I thought they were such an advanced society but I guess they still have a long way to go on women's issues.
Problem with SE Asians, their countries are not a forward thinking. Meaning, education and technology are not the focus for those countries. On a side note, would like to have statistics on dropouts with AA. How many of them couldn't last because workload was too much.
Upfront bigotry is still bigotry. it does not make it any better if they are being honest about their racism, sexism, and classism. it is still fucked up and disgusting behavior.
Tokyo Medical University were lowering the scores of females because most employers do not want to hire females to begin with because most of them get pregnant and quit their job down the line. The university reasoned that because males in general are more desired, that it simply makes more sense to accept males over females. This is an issue much bigger than a university. This is an issue that is ingrained in Japanese culture. One Japanese girl tweeted about how her family told her that women don't need an education. To spite them she entred the highest ranking university in Japan. Despite all her hard work all the employers told her "we would have hired you if only you were a man". She realised that it was not just her parents who were her enemny, but society. Japan is moving slow compared to the west, but movements fighting for equality are growing. It may take a long time, but the the young will replace the old and things will change :))
hahahaah this made me recall about this thingy i once read about, you guys should read it, here you go: "THEY" are coming It's either you embrace it or fight against it But let me warn you before your warrior spirit kicks in First "they" are gonna overtake your neighborhood Then "they" are gonna dominate your school Next "they" will be your fellow employee Moving on to invade into your circle of friends Somehow ended up as your best friend...... with benefits In a blink of an eye "they" had become your loved ones, bounded by the unbreakable ritual called "marriage" And before you know it you are trapped, you feel you are no longer living the life you thought you were Unable to break free from the prison of "their" creation, despair consumes your sanity at a rapid rate.....because now you got 3 kids Your responsibilities and morals are holding you back from abandoning ship because you realized it too late.......there is no turning back from this point So you tried to pass on your dreams and regrets onto your descendants......for once there was a wisp of hope in your dark world, as you picture your young ones escaping the "their" clutches Finally there is a good piece of news as the youngest showed no symptom of "their" influence as of yet, and that puts a smile on your tired face.......but "they" caught on to it......... "they" were thorough with "their" teachings.......there goes your last strand of hopes and dreams Decades went by......your once vibrant hair has turned grey......there you are sitting on one of the large tables in the backyard surrounded by "them".......you can see that your family is having fun and much entertained so you listened in on their conversation, even though it is in "their" language......But how could you possibly understand what they were saying you asked yourself, and so you picked up the chopstick near your hands, reaching out towards one of the plates Ah, that's right. You would say to yourself and couldn't help but let out a helpless chuckle as you recall the reason. "THEY" have conquered -Zikki
Ivy Yang why so many Hmongs in Wisconsin and Minnesota? They get discriminated against every day living there. I remember that one story, a Hmong hunter that got bullied, then he went rambo on some white hunters. The white community reacted by being very racist toward the Hmong ppl.
PdotTtc but Hmong ppl some of the nicest people I've ever met. Sure, they like to stick with their own kind, but rarely do they cause trouble. Hmong gangs are a whole different group tho.
PdotTtc they are heavily discrimated against, especially in the midwest. I think cos Hmong are very proud ppl, they stick to their traditions, but people always want them to assilimate and try to change them. Anyway, yeah I know about Hmong gangs, one of my friends in highschool was in a Bloods Hmong gang, they didnt fuck with ppl for stupid reasons. Mainly only when they were attacked. Anyway, I got nothing but love for Hmong ppl.
I have a friend who works closely with the upper management of an engineering program at a university that shall not be named, and one of their main objectives yearly is to increase the female enrollment. They would legit have like daily meetings on the topic cause it's a huge initiative given to them by the university as engineering worldwide is seen mainly as a career for men so I'm guessing they would love to be known as the school who enroll those most females to engineering programs. But it's kind of scary because the pressure is obviously heavy if their being reminded consantly of this goal their trying to obtain as well as the potential career/financial bonuses that will come with but what if in doing all of that they begin to deny entry of more well-deserving students? That would be unfortunate and I'm all for equality but I never want this PC age and way of thinking everyone's on in 2018 to ever get to the point of potentially ruining someones potential career in favor of that.
Not really related but I went a Latino place and they completely ignored me while I'm trying to order a taco. Literally 5 of them stood behind the counter staring at me, the lone Asian, but not helping. That felt more awkward than insulting.
Bart pretty much said it... if it gets I guess “too diverse” it challenges the traditions of something, traditions is what makes things good, if you change traditions it’s no longer something original, and even from my experiences, if the traditions and culture changes too much, the popularity starts to drop, it starts getting further away from what it needs to be
Sexist,racist, and bias towards body types and what is considered thin and obese. You could be a size 0 or a size 10 or more and be judged for being too fat. Not all of them think that way but some do
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I totally agree with Joe in regards to the model minority stereotype may be acting to their detriment. Most universities have a holistic assessment of general performance and they should allow those in who qualified. If it was solely a numbers game it wouldn't be as selective. While these elite universities have a diversity quota, many people play that system, so it's not as diverse as they may be pushing it to be. Honestly, if you value education where you go shouldn't matter as much as what you do with what you've learned.
Model minority myth only applies to East Asians. Thank you Joe for informing and educating everyone about how that doesn't apply to Southeast Asians like us Hmong, the Thai, Lao, Viet, and Cambodians, etc. This creates the imposter effect for many of us.
luvly lisa yeah I feel bad for southeast Asians because they are held to the Asian standards but their backgrounds are very similar to poor blacks and Hispanics.
Model minority for East Asians isn’t a myth. Look up the stats. Numbers don’t lie.
Ana Darko we are talking about SOUTHEAST Asians. China, Japan, North Korea, and South Korea are EAST asia.
I believe Ali Wong spelled it out perfectly with the term "Jungle Asians"
Steve should let his hair get all crazy like Logan Paul.
The only difference would be that Steve is actually funny while Logan Paul is not.
Dude Wazap Steve is also balding
Jason Seo Yeah why do white people bald so fast. Or atleast more commonly. My best friend is only 25 and he decided to just shave his head because he started to bald alot.
And one other difference is their moral compass
Dude Wazap you've officially replaced viet lee
Dude Wazap That’s just genes i suppose. I may get this aswell, since i’m half white, half asian
What Bart and Steve said is true, if you looks like a tourist in Mexico they charge you more for stuff.
I'm Mexican and speak Spanish so I've never been over charged. But I have seen white people get charged more for stuff.
I have heard of this in Middle School Spanish class. You get charged more if you don't speak Spanish in Mexico or you get charged more, not because you're "White".
I'm Mexican/Spanish, but I'm fair skin. Even speaking spanish as first language I would still get over charged. My mom told me it was due to my being fair skin cause there is still a classist nature. I mean I didn't believe that shit till I was hanging out with my cousins and they were saying how there is hella internal racism between white and dark mexicans/spanish.
This could be just area issues like some of my family is in Mexico City, but most live in the border towns Ojinaga and Tijuana or just inside Chihuahua. So, this is all just my own experience.
Snow Anaya No there isnt lol
I also am Mexican and I speak Spanish and that has happened to me when I am paying transportation fees like it could be 25 pesos and they be charging me 50 pesos
The Brown RAT yep. Happens a lot in bali, indonesia.
Joe has been shutting down a lot of Bart's nonsense recently, lmfao
Mr. Quixotic Yeah he is just a nonsensical guy.
Yeah, he’s just a goofy guy you know.
steve looking like he just walked out of the shower
AAAAAAAHHAHAHAH
Trying to cover up that bald spot coming thru
lee bags it came through
Hopefully we move away from affirmative action based on race and more toward economics.
Mr. Quixotic RACIST
Tommy Castro ?
I say do away with affirmative action all together and turn everything about the student's academics and intelligence and such.
LEGOAT JAMES It’s a Joke glad trump is doing away with affirmative away
All programs that are not based on merit alone are no good
Why does Steve look like he just came back from a run?
edit: Steve is funny af, I like it when he guests in JKNews. (If Steve ever reads these comments)
FlybyFrancis idk what he puts in his hair, but it looks not right.
He’s not gonna do that, but if he does he has to comment on mine too
FlybyFrancis lol he does read comments.
lmaoo! Then wassup Steve, great job for being healthy and going on jogs.
Keep ya heart healthy. 🔥🔥🔥
FlybyFrancis bro you only got one chance for Steve to see your comment! COMMENT MOREEEEE LOL
this was a very interesting perspective from Joe on this topic, I hadn't heard that theory before. Joe is mudda woke so I like his assessments
literally watch any right wing youtube channel and they'll say the same thing almost word for word lmfao!
isn't it common sense
I agree with Joe that some social activists should pick and choose their battles, but we shouldn't try to silent or disregard their concerns either, if they feel its important. We all gotta have a civil discussion and present all of our arguments, because many of the activists seem divided.
I feel like this is an example of, take your money somewhere else. Harvard does not hold the status that it use to have. It's an overly priced diploma mill. People can just pay for 1 course and get a degree, Tyra Banks and many other people of wealth has done it. Unless it's a specific skill that school excels at (John Hopkins ~medical) take your money somewhere else. That's a private school, they don't have to let any Asians in. The real question should be, why do you want to pay 100K to a school that discriminates towards your ethnicity that's not in the top for any specialized skill?
Also really liked Joe's point about lumping all asians together when it came to Southeast Asian vs. East Asian cuz it's something a majority of people don't realize
? has that been proven tho lol or are you just making an accusation
yes. I am southeast asian. I know.
@BTS Army Average... There are many low IQ east Asians. But if you average out those numbers, they have overall higher IQ score. Even the ones who have the lowest IQ have 10+ score. I have you got my point.
What's sad is Harvard I'd justifying on why they discriminate against Asian American applicants. It's not their fault that Asians have the hishest success rate
Darth Celsius no it isn't, but then the other argument is it's not black peoples fault that theirs is so low...
Pred Des Ok what's your point you just repeating the same thing as me just reversing it. It shouldn't be about race or nationality.
I can really see David starting to get skinnier
It's cuz he's wearing black
Mlucky yeah even then in pictures with a grey shirt you can tell he's slimming like crazy tho the black does help
I stopped watching Jk for a couple months, he’s skimmed down for sure!
Thing i dont like about forcing diversity is, its not genuine. They’re pleasing people so they dont get upset and taking in people for what they are and not who they are. Just like a token (insert whatever) person.
I remember there was a fresh prince episode where uncle phil was getting accepted into a prestigious Golf Committee but he declined when he found out it was solely to be a token black guy
Geo and Joe arguing more now after that drug comment Geo made lmao
Toffany Ramen drug comment ?
Steve in his final form with that hairstyle.
KIM JONG DAVID SO THE SEXY MUGBANK / FOOD REVIEWER His true final perfect form would be bald from the top, I don’t think he will go completely bald.
6:38 "well just be smarter then" Thank you David 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Ok so y'all got the whole thing wrong on the Japanese case. It is the biggest medical school and lowered women's score tests because when they do become doctors, they believe all women will leave the workforce after having children. Literally no one here in Japan was ok with it and the university was not "upfront" with this discrimination. This didn't only upset people because the medical industry is already known to be very sexist, but also because of all the old people we have and will continue to have need to be taken care but aren't because of the shortage of medical workers.
Actually this is related to the reason why there is a low birthrate. Once a women has a child in Japan, the society there expects and pressures you to become a house wife. No women wants that. And when pregnant the women's job will be at risk or receive pressure since Japan has such a strict workaholic society.
It should be about intelligence when to accepting students into ivy league schools. it just so happens that Asians are killing it right now. if the school wants other ethnicities, then those kids need to step it up and work harder. if they cant make the criteria then they are out. simple as that.
Garhon Wong careful you might be called a racist
I think you mean harvard who is discriminating against asians. I just said the acceptance to schools like harvard should be based on intelligence like having really exceptional test scores not race. which is the opposite of what a racist would say. if you meet the academic standards of the ivy league school then you are in and if you dont then you cant get in.
Garhon Wong I agree but progressives will say that your opinion is racist because ultimately the schools will be filled with Asians and Caucasians and not Hispanic or blacks
*Affirmative Action* (Based on the 1600 point SAT)
Blacks get an extra 230+ SAT points
Latinos get an extra 185+ SAT points
Asians LOSE 50+ SAT points (Similar studies show even higher numbers: Blacks gaining 300+, Asians losing 100+)
_Admission Preferences for Minority Students, Athletes, and Legacies at Elite Universities_ (2004)
_The Opportunity Cost of Admission Preferences at Elite Universities_ (2005)
~ Thomas J. Espenshade, Princeton University
~ Chang Y. Chung, Princeton University
~ Joan L. Walling, Princeton University
...
tbh I agree with this statement. I knew a classmate whose AA got into Harvard, but he eventually dropped out because he couldn’t handle the work load.. He score less than my other classmates who didnt even get into harvard
I know it was a joke, but the diversity on JkNews has made it way more entertaining. Imagine JKNews without Mexican jokes, Steve, or Bose's shenanigans.
Whenever I get the "Asians can't drive" stereotype I just mention Fast and Furious: Tokyo Drift
TIFFS NOT DUMB. I LUH YA GURL. DONT LISTEN TO DEM HATERS
moomooheremoomoothere She is a dumbass
I’m a “gifted kid” who cruised through school and got a 33 on the ACT without studying and Ivy League schools started sending me stuff to get me to apply. I’m attending community college instead. Harvard, Yale, all the fools who sent me stuff are just popular because they’re old. And if the classes really are harder, then I’ll just be stressed and sad. Too far from home, too much money, just sounds like a waste. Mind you, I’m Hispanic, female, and low-income. The only reason to go to an Ivy League school is if you want to be a lawyer or a politician and the name will be useful when getting hired. I’d rather just go to community college and state school for the degree and then start hustling. 🤷🏻♀️
Wooo David join in this one \o/
If you guys ever start doing skits again, you should make one where there's a substitute in for tiff's place in jkn. But the sub is a thug and won't let the crew interrupt him.
This channel always cheers me up especially today 8/12/18 my dog was killed by a speeding driver and it hurts so much...it hurts so much but you managed to make me stop crying thank you
Thank👏🏼you👏🏼Joe👏🏼 for speaking for the Southeast Asians!!!
10:45 thank you joe i 100% agree with you. Why do white ppl have to be diverse in there own country/continent if they want to keep it white then they have every right to.
Lemmiwinks 025 I’m black. How is this country anymore a white persons than it is mine?
America isnt a white country at all
Malinda Uboh I am not talking about the USA I am taking about the continent of Europe and the countries in it. But it kind of is whites constitute almost 70% of the population not including white hispanic Americans
Jessey Boe the majority is (almost 70% not including white hispanic Americans)
Actually loads of the personality scores were given WITHOUT an actual interview. How fucked up is that ?
You right about the Hmong community JOE!!
Did I just hear someone say Hmong :D Im Hmong hooray.
Shoutout to joe for recognizing the hmong community🗣💯💯🙏
YALL REDDIT HAS ALL the tea about this Harvard lawsuit...
Joe you’re so intelligent.
I don’t think that Harvard is trying to be racist or that they’re trying to keep their white college culture like Bart is saying.
Jayson Samuels why is everyone assuming they are suppressing Asian scores to let in whites when the real statistics show they are suppressing whites scores also to actually let in blacks.
I've read somewhere that some schools take away 50 points if you're Asian, nothing if you're white and add 50 points if you're black..
edit: I've heard*... and I wasn't sure about the numbers, nor if it's true or not
Bobbius Shadow they do take points away if you're white just not as much as Asians
*Affirmative Action* (Based on the 1600 point SAT)
Blacks get an extra 230+ SAT points
Latinos get an extra 185+ SAT points
Asians LOSE 50+ SAT points (Similar studies show even higher numbers: Blacks gaining 300+, Asians losing 100+)
_Admission Preferences for Minority Students, Athletes, and Legacies at Elite Universities_ (2004)
_The Opportunity Cost of Admission Preferences at Elite Universities_ (2005)
Thomas J. Espenshade, Princeton University
Chang Y. Chung, Princeton University
Joan L. Walling, Princeton University
...
Jayson Samuels If you think that, you must be out of touch with a reality.
All these Steve Greene episodes omfg 🎊🎉🎊🎉🎊🎈🎉🎁
*As an Asian, I agree that Universities have too many Asians, other minorities and Whites don't get enough quotas. HR 392 is a bill that will be passed this September that will remove the per country cap on Green Cards, which will allow Indians on H1-B / H4 visas to get 80% of Green Cards and America will soon look like India.*
That's good. Harvard deserves it.
Why don’t colleges just accept applications without knowing race?? The application essays and other statistics will already show how diverse the applicant is and what their personality is like...
There's still a lot of East Asians that doesn't have that either. You're talking about the 2nd gen Asian Americans and beyond. Fresh off the Boat Asians and their kids may have tougher times because of the money and what not. If you look at places like Chinatown, you can still see that they don't live in the nicest areas. On top of that, at least the Jewish, Irish, and Italian are from Europe and look white, Asians on the other-hand don't, so we don't get that luxury
Gregory Yee Agreed. I’ve experienced getting declined aid solely because of my last name and ethnicity despite having a low income.
when u know u hang out w/ ur friends way too much 5:23
@ 5:24 we entered the twilight zone for half a second there 🤣😅
why is geo always starting fights and likes to argue over nothing :( pls stop!!
she can't help it, it's part of her personality
Bobbius Shadow you meant feminism right?
Because she's a "strong independent woman"
Because she has different opinions than the others and that is okay. Get over yourself.
because it creates conversation and is mostly funny, some people enjoy these humorous interactions, sorry if you don't but its kinda part of her job to talk, but her effort is appreciated at least by me
havent watched in a while but was very impressed by how joe gave a very powerful statement, about the parachute babies and i agree with his statement 100%
My friend goes to Harvard and she told me that the reason as to why is because Asian people in her example she specifically used Koreans and Chinese is that when they write their essays and personal statements they don't really show their individualist personality and that's where they lack on the "scale"
Joe! 🤜🏻🤛🏻 You have a valid point 😂 asian gang right here
The closest thing to affirmative action in Australia (specifically Victoria) is where your final score can become higher if you are financially disadvantaged, live in a low socio-economic area, have family issues that significantly impacted your VCE studies or have an aboriginal/torres strait islander background (the only race that has a disadvantage).
Shannon Park in America if you can prove your part Native American you get to attend college for free because the Europeans took their land
It comes out of the rich people’s tax dollars
paola vazquez in America you literally committed genocide on native Americans you didn't just "take their land". I'm from Canada we did just as much fucked up shit but at least they teach us that here
Geo always has to call out/disagree with Joe for no reason.
Awesome video guy
Lmao. This whole string of videos from that day have been all about roasting Tiff about researching her articles.
literally.
Bart: I've got David's back! So I think what David's trying to say-
You could literally see the wariness in David's eyes at those words lmao.
TRIGGANY GANG
I've been watching JK since I was like, 10 and you've taught me a lot, honestly. Like how to deal with different types of people and situations. You guys are really cool❤️❤️❤️
10:45 I completely agree with that. Europe should've the right to stay European majority just like Japan should be Japanese majority, India should be Indian majority, etc. But US, Canada, etc like countries aren't the same. It's OK for a country with indigenous population in majority to want to stay at least 90% indigenous majority but those with indigenous minority can't claim the same right for their majority who are not indigenous. But I think this Harvard issue is not about white students but students of colour not getting admission due to Asian students.
Steve Prefontaine once said something along the lines like, "You cannot propel yourself forward by patting yourself on the back". I wonder what else he has seen in his days.
Joe is full of wisdom! 👏👏👏
This needed to be said, I've seen so many South Asians have to go to foreign medical schools or local colleges instead of ivy leagues because of affirmative action
5:25 that synchronization!
Tiff you're not dumb or idiots. Love you ♥️
21. something percent and a 17.6 percent is not that big of a difference. And Harvard came out with a statement saying that Asian Americans in have have grown 29 percent in the last decade.
Joe always the one to mention us Hmong people. 👍👏👏👊
JK had such a great conversation about freedom of speech in the last video, so I was a little dissapointed in this coversation. The reason they were giving Asians lower scores was because statistically they out preform all other groups across the board. Now that minorities are being directly affected by the results of Affirmitive Action (in a negative way), they see that this type of program is not fair. *Affirmitive Action is justified and legal discrimination.* It does not adress the real issues that persist in these minority communities and instead only perpetuates a victim culture. Affirmitive Action is something that should have only been a temporary fix, but the government has been sitting on their asses allowing the real issues to continue. More and more people are becoming aware of this and understand that discrimination is discrimination and it's wrong and always will be, no matter the circumstance.
Edit: It's being argued that Affirmitive action goes against discrimination laws. I'm not American so I'm not completely sure if they're talking about the constituion (bigger deal), or just regular laws.
2:54
"21.3% of white Americans are getting a 1-2"
"compared too 17.6% of Asian Americans"
"keeping Asian American scores low"
*But she just said that white Americans are on average getting lower scores than their Asian counterparts* Unless lower is better in this case, am I missing something?
I just read up on it, all categories are rated from 1-6 with 1 being the best. Tiff's fault since she said "keeping Asian American scores LOWER", she should have said higher.
The difference is only 3% (which is negligible) so I'm not sure it's fair to claim racism.
I've heard on a few sources show that, there is discrimination on Asians ending hire education. Most common was a massive deduction on SAT scores. Asians get penalized as huge amount while other race or ethnic backgrounds get points.
Steve’s hair bothers me :(
Thanks for repping for us Joe
Just finished WS and got this, yes! :))
Does the audio sound different or is it just me?
R S Their sound suckass
All I can remember growing up is do way better than your peers. Money is security.
I don't know about Harvard... however, my friend's kid who's at MIT told me that in half of his classes, *ALL* of the students were Asian(East Asian, as in Japanese/Korean/Chinese/Taiwanese)
the new normal
Steve’s hairline 😂😂
It’s a 4% difference...
There were SOOO many assumptions made after just giving those two number differences. “Oh, they’re doing it on purpose to keep Asians out.” Unless there’s some other information left out I don’t see how everyone is jumping to that conclusion immediately except just because Tiffany said that’s what they were doing.
1:15 I love it when the girls are lost in the guy humor and they take shit so seriously. You can tell geo and tiff were taking that shit personally while the other guys were laughing their ass off.
Why has the audio been off lately?
I am happy to see asians is doing well but again getting discriminated. As an asian I have felt discrimination on first road in my job ever since. Its insane how fucking stupid some people are for thinking they can get away with it.
I love how optimistic Joe is. I need to be more like that.
Once in middle school, our teachers gave us a talk on being PC. I asked why it was so bad that asians were considered smart as opposed to the negative stereotypes other minorities get. She goes, what if an asian isn’t so good at math and he feels too much pressure to perform. I said I’d rather feel pressure to overachieve than lose opportunities being seen as ghetto sooooo I got detention🤷🏾♀️
It's not about diversity, it's about equality. If there is to much Asians there is not enough other races.
It's all about diversity. They don't give a shit about merit. They just see non whites and non Asians as objects and not people.
In my opinion, as an Asian American, I do think that colleges such as Harvard may be top of the line education wise, but are definitely focused on the college lifestyle/culture that the students experience too. In saying this, the stereotype of Asian parents (especially those of parachute babies) are very strict and have high expectations of their children who are focused only on studying and not the community and lifestyle aspects of University. Which can also lead me to believe why they gave them lower scores in personality. It could be Harvard trying to create this image that they want.
I'm starting my fall semester in a week and I'm really not looking forward to it.
Ruby dooby doo I'm starting school in 3 days and I'm not ready.
Yeah I can't believe that happened in Japan. I thought they were such an advanced society but I guess they still have a long way to go on women's issues.
Thank you Joe for being consistent: 10:46
r they using different audio equipment?
12:03 Lmaooooo that's honestly a great problem to have.
Asian population is around 30% tho
Problem with SE Asians, their countries are not a forward thinking. Meaning, education and technology are not the focus for those countries.
On a side note, would like to have statistics on dropouts with AA. How many of them couldn't last because workload was too much.
Upfront bigotry is still bigotry. it does not make it any better if they are being honest about their racism, sexism, and classism. it is still fucked up and disgusting behavior.
DAVID LOOKS SO GOOD
Sound mic prob ?
Tokyo Medical University were lowering the scores of females because most employers do not want to hire females to begin with because most of them get pregnant and quit their job down the line. The university reasoned that because males in general are more desired, that it simply makes more sense to accept males over females. This is an issue much bigger than a university. This is an issue that is ingrained in Japanese culture. One Japanese girl tweeted about how her family told her that women don't need an education. To spite them she entred the highest ranking university in Japan. Despite all her hard work all the employers told her "we would have hired you if only you were a man". She realised that it was not just her parents who were her enemny, but society. Japan is moving slow compared to the west, but movements fighting for equality are growing. It may take a long time, but the the young will replace the old and things will change :))
hahahaah this made me recall about this thingy i once read about, you guys should read it, here you go:
"THEY" are coming
It's either you embrace it or fight against it
But let me warn you before your warrior spirit kicks in
First "they" are gonna overtake your neighborhood
Then "they" are gonna dominate your school
Next "they" will be your fellow employee
Moving on to invade into your circle of friends
Somehow ended up as your best friend...... with benefits
In a blink of an eye "they" had become your loved ones, bounded by the unbreakable ritual called "marriage"
And before you know it you are trapped, you feel you are no longer living the life you thought you were
Unable to break free from the prison of "their" creation, despair consumes your sanity at a rapid rate.....because now you got 3 kids
Your responsibilities and morals are holding you back from abandoning ship because you realized it too late.......there is no turning back from this point
So you tried to pass on your dreams and regrets onto your descendants......for once there was a wisp of hope in your dark world, as you picture your young ones escaping the "their" clutches
Finally there is a good piece of news as the youngest showed no symptom of "their" influence as of yet, and that puts a smile on your tired face.......but "they" caught on to it......... "they" were thorough with "their" teachings.......there goes your last strand of hopes and dreams
Decades went by......your once vibrant hair has turned grey......there you are sitting on one of the large tables in the backyard surrounded by "them".......you can see that your family is having fun and much entertained so you listened in on their conversation, even though it is in "their" language......But how could you possibly understand what they were saying you asked yourself, and so you picked up the chopstick near your hands, reaching out towards one of the plates
Ah, that's right. You would say to yourself and couldn't help but let out a helpless chuckle as you recall the reason.
"THEY" have conquered
-Zikki
Joe loves Hmongs. Hire me, Joe. You don’t have enough Hmong people working with you.
Ivy Yang why so many Hmongs in Wisconsin and Minnesota? They get discriminated against every day living there. I remember that one story, a Hmong hunter that got bullied, then he went rambo on some white hunters. The white community reacted by being very racist toward the Hmong ppl.
PdotTtc but Hmong ppl some of the nicest people I've ever met. Sure, they like to stick with their own kind, but rarely do they cause trouble. Hmong gangs are a whole different group tho.
PdotTtc they are heavily discrimated against, especially in the midwest. I think cos Hmong are very proud ppl, they stick to their traditions, but people always want them to assilimate and try to change them. Anyway, yeah I know about Hmong gangs, one of my friends in highschool was in a Bloods Hmong gang, they didnt fuck with ppl for stupid reasons. Mainly only when they were attacked. Anyway, I got nothing but love for Hmong ppl.
What's with the audio?
David the snacc
Lex Gonzalez you are the whole meal girl
I have a friend who works closely with the upper management of an engineering program at a university that shall not be named, and one of their main objectives yearly is to increase the female enrollment. They would legit have like daily meetings on the topic cause it's a huge initiative given to them by the university as engineering worldwide is seen mainly as a career for men so I'm guessing they would love to be known as the school who enroll those most females to engineering programs. But it's kind of scary because the pressure is obviously heavy if their being reminded consantly of this goal their trying to obtain as well as the potential career/financial bonuses that will come with but what if in doing all of that they begin to deny entry of more well-deserving students? That would be unfortunate and I'm all for equality but I never want this PC age and way of thinking everyone's on in 2018 to ever get to the point of potentially ruining someones potential career in favor of that.
Not really related but I went a Latino place and they completely ignored me while I'm trying to order a taco. Literally 5 of them stood behind the counter staring at me, the lone Asian, but not helping. That felt more awkward than insulting.
Bart pretty much said it... if it gets I guess “too diverse” it challenges the traditions of something, traditions is what makes things good, if you change traditions it’s no longer something original, and even from my experiences, if the traditions and culture changes too much, the popularity starts to drop, it starts getting further away from what it needs to be
Sexist,racist, and bias towards body types and what is considered thin and obese. You could be a size 0 or a size 10 or more and be judged for being too fat. Not all of them think that way but some do
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I totally agree with Joe in regards to the model minority stereotype may be acting to their detriment. Most universities have a holistic assessment of general performance and they should allow those in who qualified. If it was solely a numbers game it wouldn't be as selective. While these elite universities have a diversity quota, many people play that system, so it's not as diverse as they may be pushing it to be. Honestly, if you value education where you go shouldn't matter as much as what you do with what you've learned.
Why are you clowning on Tiff. You guys are lucky she's polite.