Cheapest way to get cinema and film look, I bought Sony ZV-1 $550. Capturing video with 1/50 shutter, possible with internal ND-filter and changing picture profile gamma to HLG or S-Log2 with Rec709 color gamut does the trick. It is possible to color grade perfectly and have good dynamic range. Also possible to color grade in camera to get film look. ZV-1 Mark II seems to be worse.
It required tweaks. Color grading and cinematic look requires more dynamic range but shooting S-log2 didn't work out because 8-bit recording degraded colors. So I created LUT to transform HLG and S-Log2 gamma with Rec709 gamug. S-Log2 is more noisier with more dynamic range (noise can be cleaned on post), but most of time HLG works best. Also 8-bit recording makes exposure more critical while there are no playroom to fix exposure afterwards. That was also required to get perfect skin tones so I use manual exposure only. I have two reference points that I can carry everywhere: piece of white paper and my caucasian skin :) I check subject exposure using those while light direction matter, or shooting landscape/environment I just put the paper on floor/ground. Optimum zebras for HLG was 60% (+/-2) skin, and 73+% for piece of paper. S-Log2 50% (+/-2) skin and 59%+ for piece of paper Second tweak was to change sharpening to -7. Camera wastes bits on video compresion way too much when sharpening was on and it degraded especially 1080p footage. Some shots needed to shoot 1080p because of cropping or need of fast framerate but when making video on streaming those doesn't matter. Streaming video quality is in practice 1080p and I actually improved 4k footage by adding 2pix radius gaussian blur to them to improve compression, while 1080p was upscaled to 4k with bicubic filtering. So making cinematic shots working on ZV-1 need more effort on post processing and biggest inconvience is that I need to carefully plan my shots, configure settings to camera memory before shooting starts so I change them quickly. I've been researching a lot what is the bigger and better gear next to ZV-1 and unfortunately there is huge difference in price.. Next size and price is likely Sony FX3 + Sigma Art 24-70mm + ND filter + expensive gimbal (Sony ZV-1 can be stabilized with small and cheap gimbal). There are a lot of cameras from different manufactures between those but I'm very sensitive to rolling shutter and bad autofocus, and I need slow motion capability. Sony ZV-E1 is kind of interesting but I'll end up using Sigma Art 24-70mm on that too and I doubt that small plastic camera body is usable with heavy full frame lenses. I think the killer camera for me is having APS-C sized Exmor RS type sensor with fast rolling shutter and features like in ZV-1, integrated fast lens with 16-50mm focal length with manual focus ring.
@@VietinghoffAlex Unfortunately my situation doesn’t allow for this to happen. Next month would have been perfect. I guess I’ll just have to go with building a small rig with a Sigma camera.
May I ask what Tilta top plate and handle are you using? I ordered the M-lite with the angled hood, so I'm a little concerned with the clearance. Your video and a few others, the Facebook community and discords have convinced me to try this DIY setup. I have a tiny budget, but this is so fun. This made entry-level so much more accessible. Thanks! 🤝
I'm using the Tilta Komodo top plate, but you should order the one directly from Filmatura that's specifically made for the M-Lite! www.3dfocus.org/product-page/m-lite-nato-top-rail Then order any nato rail top handle. Glad to hear you ordered an M-Lite!
At first I was excited to learn about another affordable pocket-sized camera that shoots RAW on a 16mm sensor crop. Then I saw a rolling shutter test - I'll pass. I just wish they'd bring back the Bolex D16 sensor! :(
your video just pop on my screen, you got my interest, Im new to film making, what lenses go with this mod? and how would you suggest editing the footage on a timeline?
You can use almost any lenses since it's a mirrorless camera. I'd suggest if you're very new to just use the kit lens that comes with the EOS M at first, then buy a nice vintage portrait lens like the Helios 44-2 58mm f/2. You use the free MLVApp to transcode the raw footage, then you can edit it in anything! I'd suggest using the free Davinci Resolve.
You should ask 3D Focus on their website, some people cancelled their orders after they were made so sometimes he has extras! www.3dfocus.org/product-page/m-lite
@@GregAsdourian A friend and I replaced his button ribbon cable recently, just takes a few tries to make sure you really line up the little black knobs in the tiny holes.
It depends on which mode you're in and the speed and capacity of your SD card. Some people have reported unlimited recording time when shooting in a mode like raw 1080 24p!
Is there anything more ridiculous than putting a small camera in a bulky box to look more professional? complex or expensive equipment don´t make you a better filmmaker...Let's buy the body of a Ferrari and put an engine from a scooter then!...filmmaking has become about pretending: simulating the warmth of analog, pretending that you have an expensive camera...better you focus on the quality of the stories you tell and not on pretending things that are not.
Did you watch the whole video? There are a few benefits to this rehousing: the in-body fan cools the camera which allows for longer record times in raw mode, the new body has a bunch of mounting points for professional gear, and it's ergonomic and makes for much easier/better handheld operation than the original EOS M body. I agree that story is the most important thing, but this is a fun and cheap DIY project that can be creatively inspiring for new filmmakers who are using their gear as an excuse not to just go shoot :)
Waste of time, use the fx3 with vintage lenses and get dehancer or film box and be done with it. Make films, stop tinkering, audiences don’t care about looks. It’s all story, acting and sound baby.
Dehancer and Filmbox do a great job, but there's definitely something to be said for crafting the look-in camera. A lot faster and usually cheaper than running post software! I actually sold my FX3 a few months ago and went all in on older cameras, haha.
Mate your presentation skills are off the chart! I fell like i learned so much here 😮 nothing to do with M-Lite....you need to make more videos 🙌🏾🙌🏾
Wow, thanks Cole! That means a lot! I'll definitely be making more :) thanks for all your work on the M-Lite!!!
I can't wait til my M-Lite casing arrives. I'm so impressed with the community that helped make this camera as awesome as it is. Great video Alex!
Thanks!! And can't wait to see what you shoot with it!!
Awesome video Alex!
Thanks Tom! Pumped to hear from the two creators!!
fantastic video! super excited to get mine. I'm glad I ordered before the last minute rush comes in 🤣
Awesome!! Excited for you! Glad you like the video, it was fun to make.
I agree about the rear. I think we could have made the camera compartment a bit thicker 👍🏾👍🏾
I ordered one with side handles, tilted hood, and a spare ribbon and button ribbon. I can't wait to get mine.
Awesome, enjoy!!
I had the same problem with getting the buttons attached. I did get mine put together and I love it.
Awesome, congrats!!
I need that shirt.
I got it from the Corridor Digital store!
wow love the Bolex D16 image quality, the reason I like my Fuji but very interested in the M-lite
The EOS M is so cheap that it's worth trying out! Easy to resell if you don't end up feeling you need it.
Too bad the housing isnt available any more but great video.
Thanks! Who knows, they might pop up on ebay at some point!
You can always reach out to Filmatura to see if anyone canceled their order!
Cheapest way to get cinema and film look, I bought Sony ZV-1 $550. Capturing video with 1/50 shutter, possible with internal ND-filter and changing picture profile gamma to HLG or S-Log2 with Rec709 color gamut does the trick. It is possible to color grade perfectly and have good dynamic range. Also possible to color grade in camera to get film look.
ZV-1 Mark II seems to be worse.
Glad that worked for you! I have the ZV1 but I'm trying to sell it because I just haven't been happy with the image from it.
It required tweaks. Color grading and cinematic look requires more dynamic range but shooting S-log2 didn't work out because 8-bit recording degraded colors. So I created LUT to transform HLG and S-Log2 gamma with Rec709 gamug. S-Log2 is more noisier with more dynamic range (noise can be cleaned on post), but most of time HLG works best.
Also 8-bit recording makes exposure more critical while there are no playroom to fix exposure afterwards. That was also required to get perfect skin tones so I use manual exposure only. I have two reference points that I can carry everywhere: piece of white paper and my caucasian skin :) I check subject exposure using those while light direction matter, or shooting landscape/environment I just put the paper on floor/ground. Optimum zebras for HLG was 60% (+/-2) skin, and 73+% for piece of paper. S-Log2 50% (+/-2) skin and 59%+ for piece of paper
Second tweak was to change sharpening to -7. Camera wastes bits on video compresion way too much when sharpening was on and it degraded especially 1080p footage. Some shots needed to shoot 1080p because of cropping or need of fast framerate but when making video on streaming those doesn't matter. Streaming video quality is in practice 1080p and I actually improved 4k footage by adding 2pix radius gaussian blur to them to improve compression, while 1080p was upscaled to 4k with bicubic filtering.
So making cinematic shots working on ZV-1 need more effort on post processing and biggest inconvience is that I need to carefully plan my shots, configure settings to camera memory before shooting starts so I change them quickly.
I've been researching a lot what is the bigger and better gear next to ZV-1 and unfortunately there is huge difference in price.. Next size and price is likely Sony FX3 + Sigma Art 24-70mm + ND filter + expensive gimbal (Sony ZV-1 can be stabilized with small and cheap gimbal). There are a lot of cameras from different manufactures between those but I'm very sensitive to rolling shutter and bad autofocus, and I need slow motion capability.
Sony ZV-E1 is kind of interesting but I'll end up using Sigma Art 24-70mm on that too and I doubt that small plastic camera body is usable with heavy full frame lenses. I think the killer camera for me is having APS-C sized Exmor RS type sensor with fast rolling shutter and features like in ZV-1, integrated fast lens with 16-50mm focal length with manual focus ring.
Oh my god I wish I could get this! I won’t be able to get one until next month! Uuuggghh it just looks like exactly what I’ve been looking for!
It's worth putting on a credit card or line of credit!
@@VietinghoffAlex Unfortunately my situation doesn’t allow for this to happen. Next month would have been perfect. I guess I’ll just have to go with building a small rig with a Sigma camera.
@@RokDAWG1 You never know, there might be some people buying them to resell on eBay.
Spot on..
Thanks!
That t-shirt you're wearing, though!!!! LMFAOOOOO
Lmfao brother that t-shirt is so cool ! subscribed just for that haha
Haha awesome, thanks! It's by Corridor Digital!
May I ask what Tilta top plate and handle are you using? I ordered the M-lite with the angled hood, so I'm a little concerned with the clearance. Your video and a few others, the Facebook community and discords have convinced me to try this DIY setup. I have a tiny budget, but this is so fun. This made entry-level so much more accessible.
Thanks! 🤝
I'm using the Tilta Komodo top plate, but you should order the one directly from Filmatura that's specifically made for the M-Lite! www.3dfocus.org/product-page/m-lite-nato-top-rail Then order any nato rail top handle. Glad to hear you ordered an M-Lite!
that shirt is the devil!
A little demon named Dobe flies around and throws errors at editors.
BOR I LUV YOUR SHIRT
I WAS LIKE IVE SEEN IT SIME WHERE BUT EWHERE ?
SO COOL
AND YOUR VIDEO WAS REAL NICE TO WATCH
YUV EARN A SUB
Thank you! It's a shirt by Corridor Digital, my favourite UA-camrs!
At first I was excited to learn about another affordable pocket-sized camera that shoots RAW on a 16mm sensor crop. Then I saw a rolling shutter test - I'll pass. I just wish they'd bring back the Bolex D16 sensor! :(
That Digital Bolex global shutter CCD Kodak sensor is true magic. Out of camera it's the look I've been chasing for years!
they should make something like this with the OG a7s
They're making one for the BMPC 6K!
Great color grading, I definitely want to try this build out. Does this work with all eos m bodies?
Thank you! It's only compatible with the original EOS M, not the later models!
SIGMA FP. Less than $1K used and looks better than any of these...though of course, it does need to be rigged-out.
I'm very tempted to get one, been eyeing them for awhile!
pretty good. now to hack my M cam
Thanks! Best of luck :)
Hi Alex, love those Arri stickers, where did you get them?
Thanks! I printed them myself with Sticker Mule by uploading a white PNG with transparent background!
Today is the last day to order an M-Lite!
your video just pop on my screen, you got my interest, Im new to film making, what lenses go with this mod? and how would you suggest editing the footage on a timeline?
now searching for a eos m and seeing how to get money to buy the M lite
You can use almost any lenses since it's a mirrorless camera. I'd suggest if you're very new to just use the kit lens that comes with the EOS M at first, then buy a nice vintage portrait lens like the Helios 44-2 58mm f/2. You use the free MLVApp to transcode the raw footage, then you can edit it in anything! I'd suggest using the free Davinci Resolve.
@@VietinghoffAlex thank you so much
Damn, missed this opportunity. Is the STL file available anywhere?
No, but you should reach out to Filmatura in case anyone canceled their order after he already put their kit together!
These are unfortunately out of stock. Wish I could get my hands on one
You should ask 3D Focus on their website, some people cancelled their orders after they were made so sometimes he has extras! www.3dfocus.org/product-page/m-lite
Hi Alex, can you tell me where i can find the ARRI labels e.g. sticker ?
I had to make mine using Sticker Mule.
where can i contact you off list?
@@JanCzmok Instagram @vietinghoff
This is like putting a pontiac engine into a lamborghini lol. Kit car
Hahaha!
How did i find this right after it has been discontinued? Life is so unfair.
Join the Filmatura FB group, they'll be doing another batch early 2024!
Did you find any help replacing the button ribbon on here?
@@GregAsdourian yes, I think this was the tutorial I followed! ua-cam.com/video/fHTyQ90nHmw/v-deo.htmlsi=OyaiyU0yGNWdDz9m
@@VietinghoffAlex still having issues getting the Q Set button to stay. Any tips?
@@GregAsdourian A friend and I replaced his button ribbon cable recently, just takes a few tries to make sure you really line up the little black knobs in the tiny holes.
How long is the raw recording time?
It depends on which mode you're in and the speed and capacity of your SD card. Some people have reported unlimited recording time when shooting in a mode like raw 1080 24p!
Can you still only record 30 minutes at a time?
I think that's an older camera issue, but with Magic Lantern you can select an option to automatically restart recording after the 30 minute cutoff.
build a cinepi
That's on my list of things to do!
How to install knob on / off connected???
Are you asking how to install the power button in the M-Lite body? If so they explain it in the build tutorial :)
can i purchase this housing from you? apparently they are not made anymore
You can message the Filmatura website and they sell them!
@@VietinghoffAlex they stopped making/selling them, i'd LOVE to purchase your housing if it runs it's course one day.
@@Ascoundrel They actually have a waitlist you can ask to be put on because some people cancelled their orders after all the parts were ordered!
I have installed version 2.0.3 firmware by mistake and want to put magic lantern on it. Can anyone help me?
@@maxwelldavenport2589 there's a way to roll back the firmware, look up on UA-cam how to downgrade EOS M firmware 2.0.3
@@VietinghoffAlex i did try to look on here already maybe you could find a video since i had no luck with the eos m in particular
@@maxwelldavenport2589 www.reddit.com/r/MagicLantern/comments/zxnmiw/need_help_downgrading_eos_m_from_203_202/
useless comment but your t-shirt is pretty funny
Haha thanks, bought it from Corridor Crew!
Nice tips can you help me find 1 here in Malawi
You can order from anywhere in the world, just go to 3dfocus.org
Is there anything more ridiculous than putting a small camera in a bulky box to look more professional? complex or expensive equipment don´t make you a better filmmaker...Let's buy the body of a Ferrari and put an engine from a scooter then!...filmmaking has become about pretending: simulating the warmth of analog, pretending that you have an expensive camera...better you focus on the quality of the stories you tell and not on pretending things that are not.
Did you watch the whole video? There are a few benefits to this rehousing: the in-body fan cools the camera which allows for longer record times in raw mode, the new body has a bunch of mounting points for professional gear, and it's ergonomic and makes for much easier/better handheld operation than the original EOS M body.
I agree that story is the most important thing, but this is a fun and cheap DIY project that can be creatively inspiring for new filmmakers who are using their gear as an excuse not to just go shoot :)
Canon 🤢🤮
Well it's raw, so you can change it to whichever colour science you want, haha
Waste of time, use the fx3 with vintage lenses and get dehancer or film box and be done with it. Make films, stop tinkering, audiences don’t care about looks. It’s all story, acting and sound baby.
Dehancer and Filmbox do a great job, but there's definitely something to be said for crafting the look-in camera. A lot faster and usually cheaper than running post software! I actually sold my FX3 a few months ago and went all in on older cameras, haha.
digesting. Premiere t-shirt?
Yes, by Corridor Digital!
yeah those guys have no idea what they're doing. There is a reason why they make youtube videos and don't work at ILM or Dneg @@VietinghoffAlex
son there is only resolve, and there is just wasting your time with anything else@@VietinghoffAlex