Motor Yacht v Sailing Yacht...Which do YOU prefer?
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If you are considering buying a superyacht, one of the first considerations should be whether you prefer a sailing yacht or a motor yacht. This vlog looks at the pros and cons of each.
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For me a sailing yacht is just so elegant and graceful, and it's much better for the environment too. 🌎 Also, there are some really interesting developments like hybrid drive that can charge the batteries whilst under sail, and DSS foils that reduce heeling like on the stunning Canova by Baltic Yachts.
Depends on what you want to do on the boat. In the old days you had to own a very large motoryacht if you wanted to go off to the furthest reaches of the globe, if you wanted speed, forget sailing. Through huge steps in technology where this is no longer the norm. We motored around the world in the mid-80's on a 65m, having a 10,000 mile range. We only met 3 others doing the same, all the rest were sailboats. Look at the HUGE rise in Explorer yachts today like Nordhavn and Bering, even sub 25m.
You're absolutely right!
Just something special about seeing the sailing yachts under way.
I like both, the comfort of a motor yacht, and the sleek lines and adventure of a sailing yacht. If I'd be in the market for either of those, I would probably be in team sailing yacht.
active sailing has an appeal. literally learning the ropes and then being able to sail from port to port through your own work. i guess a similar idea would be owning a jet and learning to be a pilot.
For me who grew up in "The Solent" pottering around in a saling dinghy, where I still can remember that feeling of freedom, but also my parents had a small dory which we blasted about in, a totally different but also a fantastic experience, so for me it's the old journey or destination conundrum. Given unlimited funds, I think a motor yatch ticks more boxes, with a yacht with a keel limits where you can go, also you have to have a larger yacht to get the same real estate and toys, but even so that feeling of sailing is difficult to ignore.
If that's the worry then a sailing catamaran hits the right notes. Lots of space but can hit shallow waters.
@@darthkek1953I thought about a catamaran, but its neither "man nor beast" a compromise to both, if i wanted to sail about the Caribbean that its fine, but its not for me.
Motor Yacht, no question about it! The amount of heeling required on sailing yachts and the impact it places on passenger comfort and enjoyment, not to mention the restrictions on interior choices is not what I consider luxury!
I don’t want my Fazioli grand piano sliding around the deck every time a course change is made!
Bolt it down!
@@Yachtsforsaleblog The piano is one example. But others could be chandeliers, artworks, tablewares, chairs etc. All have to be secured or stored in rough weather on all yachts, but on sailing yachts this needs to be done whenever underway by sail, and the heeling can rule out certain choices entirely.
@@mikeward1701 Modern sailing yacht hull designs tend to be faster when sailed flat (heel angles less than about 15 degrees) because they often have less drag with the deep high aspect ratio fin keels and spade rudders. In older designs, heeling increases the waterline length of the hull and helps produce more speed. Though, in general, 15 degrees of heel can be near optimal for many boats.
Also catamarans - which don't heel at all - are an option yet I don't like them and clearly prefer monohulls.
And there are sailing yachts with grand pianos on board, for example SY Marie!
Good interior design on a sailing yacht is artwork in itself as motor yacht design is way easier but good sailing yacht design is an art given all the extra things you must consider...
Great video David and thanks for your thoughts
For me I keep going back and forth with this question. While I like the idea of a sailboat, like you every time i see one it’s always using its engines! You did say that an advantage the motor yachts had over sailing yachts was comfort and roominess. I do think that the current trend in motor yachts to explorers might be the exception of it being the destination that’s important. Your only looking at the single hulls- with the catamaran you can get both. I think this is why the popularity in catamarans is growing. After saying that I am intrigued by the latest offerings by Perini Navi.
With motor-yachts it's about the destination, with sailing-yachts it's about the journey...
Nice, informative. Something not really covered are the abundance of sailing regattas around the world like the Sydney to Hobart to name another. David I am very curious did you do a video on hull materials, wood versus metal versus composites? I haven’t seen one. Love your channel, watch it all the time.
I can understand the appeal of sailing and I certainly appreciate the elegance and beauty of sailing yachts, but I am squarely in the camp of motor yachts. While my dream would be to 'sail' around the world, I'd want to do it with as much stability and volume as possible, as most of the reason for the round trip would be to spend time at the many locations along the way. That said, actually 'sailing' round the world in a sailing ship would be a 'true' adventure. I think I'd skip sailing Cape Horn and the Horn of Africa though. That would be a bit too much adventure thank you.
I definitely would go motor yacht over a sailing yacht. After many years of living aboard a muti-ton steel hull houseboat, and witnessing firsthand the overall arrogance and the lack of knowledge of the rules of the road by many sailing vessels. That is not a group I would ever want to be associated with. True sailing vessels are more economical and better for the environment, which is precisely why when I buy my first super yacht, I will convert every bit of it that I can to solar power. Even if I can only cover the hotel load for the yacht this will be a great achievement, as I have no desire to travel the world, and it will spend most of its time on the hook.
Thank you for the video. Now when you say a sailing boat, cat or mono? talking about around UK, Norway coast, Croatia costs, etc.
When I was a kid, my parents had two sailboats (Sunfish) that we would take out onto Lake Juliette in Georgia. It was enjoyable for those occasions, but now that I'm older than they were then and my life has altered, I would definitely prefer a motor yacht. I could almost live on one, although my wife just wants a cruise once a year. 🤷♂
I like the motor yachts.
Unmentioned, but a huge advantage for sailing yachts, are lower costs on fuel and much more environmentally friendly.
Well motor yachts are about the destination and getting away from it all whereas sailing yachts are about going places in a close-knit community of likeminded people.
Let me explain this a bit more:
- Motor yacht owners might invite business partners aboard every once in a while but more often these yachts are like vacation homes to disconnect from everything whereas sailing yacht owners use their yachts a bit more to actively network, e.g. during regattas or things like the Oyster World Rally
- Sailing yacht owners tend to love discussing technical details of their yachts or journeys at length whereas the average motor yacht owner prefers to leave such things more to the crew. So chances are you will hear sailing yacht owners discussion rigging types, sail plans, sail handling, etc.
So the motor yacht owner looks to reduce stimuli (passive relaxation in splendid isolation) whereas the sailing yacht owner tries to unwind by seeking different stimuli (active relaxation). And that shared interest again makes it super easy to connect with fellow sailing yacht owners (and compete with them ;-) -> yes sailing yachts make it easier to gain a world record if you want to -> largest sloop, ketch, schooner, tallest mast, fastest around the globe…).
- Controversial Point:
Sailing yacht owners tend to be slightly more adventurous types of people (enjoying a heeled over yacht while playing with the natural forces is not for everyone) which is also reflected when looking at the industries these owners are coming from and/or the way they do business. Motor yacht owners tend to be slightly more conservative; though there are exceptions of course.
Also some sailing yacht owners sailed around places like Cape Horn (e.g. Aquijo), also known as "The Sailor's Everest", while motor yacht owners (often even those with explorer yachts) will avoid such extreme conditions.
With regards to the latter personal branding might play a role to some extent as well (Richard Branson for example never owned a motor yacht but he did own Necker Belle or Larry Ellison who owned Rising Sun but primarily uses the Americas Cup for his branding rather than his motor yacht).
If you want the best of both worlds then get a trawler type yacht . They go at 7 to 10 knots like a nordhavn. They are all about the trip and can go for 3 to 4k miles before the need to refuel.
Motoryacht!!!!!!! But maybe Perini navi with dyna rigg.
I'm not adverse to motor yachts but every yacht that I have owned has been sail. My next yacht has a greater chance of being a sailing yacht than a motor yacht, though I do not reject the possibility. If you are in a hurry, buy a motor yacht and if you are not on a schedule go sail.
What about the Conrad C115 Lunar?
Motor yacht for me . I would love to sail but I would have to have a crew. If I had a crew I would love to sail a beutuful old world cruise type of sail boat
I follow many sailing channels on UA-cam and what I take from them is that they use the engine about 50% of the time. Thinking that sailing yachts hardly use engines is a myth. The new generation of motor yachts with their solar panels and axle generators (re-gen function) reduces the use of the generators and therefore pollution, and for me, the main thing is on a motor yacht your drinks don't fall over 🙂Btw I used to be a sailing sailor.
Bit of a non story about the carpeted over escape hatch. Did you inform anyone at the yard about the hatch that was carpeted over!? If not why would you potentially leave someone to potentially burn to death trapped in their cabin!
Your point about volume misses the catamaran! That brings you plenty of volume on a sailing yacht, because of the wide beam between the hulls.
Me, I would never get a yacht which couldn't handle self-propulsion, whether that's via sail or via solar power or both. (At the moment, it would have to be sailing or both, because solar doesn't carry enough power to count on, but that's changing over time.) If I'm getting a boat, I want it to carry me across oceans. I want it to carry me *anywhere* in the world where I want to go, and I also want to spend 90-100% of my time living on it and going places on it.
That isn't most motor yachts. It might be some of the long distance explorers, or some of the trawler conversions which were once legitimate commercial boats. But even they have their range limits, long though they are.
Sail will still take you everywhere, and that's the most important thing to me. My dream yacht is the Sunreef 80 eco-catamaran, which combines solar and wind to get you anywhere in the world in a level of luxury which matches most motor superyachts in my opinion.
Trends are changing back to a reflection of historic times: my WEF-buddies and my billionaire friend whose last name rhymes with "Loros" are switching to oar-powered galleys.
They're at a phase in their plans where they've arranged for enough super-low-wage workers (who also can't refuse the work offered to them) to man the oars of their luxury galleys. Best of all: all the money they pay those workers in salary comes back to them in one way or another!
Funnily enough they plan to use those galleys to go 'recruit' new oarmen for even more galleys too!
A big sailboat, for sure. Race people across the Atlantic.
sail boat you can take it racing with a paid crew and some friends, more chance to socialise with owner owners and crews
The big upsides of sailing yachts is you can get a rundown and restore it yourself for very little money (but a lot of effort) whereas a motoryacht restoration requires a lot of both. And you can take a very small sailing vessel over the Atlantic. Entire herds of them migrate back and forth each year. Modest little affordable boats. It's a relatively rare and not-cheap motoryacht that does that. BUUUT sailing yachts are permanent work in progress... the only reason you don't have a bag of tools is because you have two bags of tools.
...and while you use all your time working on a run-down sailing yacht you aren't making any money.
@@pistonburner6448 35 hour work week, 20 to 40 hours on the boat. Perfectly doable if you're a doer.
I'm waaaaay too lazy to like sailing. Motor 100%
David you keep talking about buying a boat and I don't know if you'll ever actually do it, but I think you have enough of a following that if you decided to do it and made a channel out of it, you could make a living off of it. Enough to get by on at least. When you look at the most popular 'yachting' channels, all of them are sail boats. Catamarans mostly, but mono and even a Trimaran now with La Vagabonde. All you have to do is commit.
Motor yacht!
I am a motor yacht person.
i got 300 bucks,is that gonna get me a motoryacht ?
give me engines every time
"I'm sorry, but you are confusing me even more than before."
Just trying to show the merits of both types of yacht. Maybe you should buy both?
@@Yachtsforsaleblog 🚤Maybe I should⛵
Perhaps a sailing yacht is more for nautical enthusiasts who like to "sail", and motor yachts are for "lazy connoisseurs" 😉
Or motor yachts are for people who work for a living, who don't always have multiple weeks to go see new areas. Seeing the same places over and over again gets old very fast.
Sailing boats are for sailors, motorboats are for drivers.
@@darthkek1953 If you only have Saturday and Sunday to spend on the boat, and there's no wind...
@@pistonburner6448 i was thinking about the boat still being on stilts being fixed up. That gets your "free" (or low cost) boat, after that it's about use. I see people can and do take sailing boats out for weekend and long weekend trips. Working in Glencoe adjacent to Bishops Bay (North Ballachulish) are a whole range of affordable small sailing boats (compared to motorboats) and the owners were always hopping in and out of them for trips and breaks. Cruises are for holidays or, yes, for retirees.
I know this is a touchy subject for some. I personally find sailing yachts primitive. To me sailing yachts are about as interesting as watching someone rub two sticks together to create fire. I know there's been a lot of Innovations over the last several years but honestly as soon as I see sails on a yacht I lose all interest. That's just my personal opinion though. I understand there are people that absolutely love sailing yachts.
I absolutely love both, but your comment made me laugh so much 🤣😂🤣😂
Vaar maar eens de wereld rond op een zeilboot, en daarna op een moteryacht.
Denk dat de keuze op zeilen valt😊