Another good review Peter, appreciate your efforts in showing the new models especially as we are not able to view as easily as we have been able to do so previously
No oven, no deal for us. Why do these people not cater for our needs. If they want to sell in the UK most of us require an oven. Also when you are showering there is no access to the fridge or the bedroom for everyone else. I much prefer the Adria 640 SGX or possibly the Adria 640 SLB. The Dreamer D68 is also well worth a look. But thanks Peter for an excellent video, yet again.
Yes, the lack of an oven will be a deal breaker for some but I guess it's the shape of the kitchen (and lack of demand in Germany) that dictates this. If you want an oven then makers like Adria and Pilote can offer one in this type of layout, but there seem to be enough customers who will happily go without an oven and have extra kitchen storage instead
I’m in United States, I don’t know how to plan a fall and also maybe concerned about getting parts if it is German made. But with that being said I’m very impressed. I do not care a camper needs a bathroom and a sentence. As always thank you for sharing.
Nice review. I came to this genre of camping from clamping quite recently (Covid driven) and the decision for a PVC was easy based on the kind of exploration we wanted to do. Picking a layout ... not so easy. I'm not enthusiastic about the limited 'garage' space in this unit. Seems to be a pretty fixed formula - you have stuff in it or you don't use it. We searched for various options and I think we were fortunate .. an initial order fell thru (not going to detail that) but we ended up with a Dreamer (Rapido) D60 which really suits our needs for us and a young labrador and a bunch of stuff. The 'garage' area is really customisable... we have the extra beds (and it has the full aluminium protection and bike mounts) - but mostly we leave one of the lower beds at home and use the other as a sofa so the flexibility is great - we use the electric drop down bed and the dog sleeps underneath next to the sofa. There are so many clever ideas in these vans . We got it in December I think - just after a lockdown ended - and it sat doing nothing for months and then after a 2 day shake out by Weston Supermare we head off and did the Scottish NC 500 and a month later Devon and Cornwall and Lands End (for the pups matching John of Groats and Lands End photos)
Great and comprehensive review, Peter and thanks. We were looking at Globecar, Malibu and Dreamer but in the end went for a Wildax Solaris XL on the Fiat with the 9 speed automatic. Great level of standard vehicle kit when compared to this Globecar, too. We love its unusual bunk bed layout - perfect for our 9 year old daughter, and actually find that as the 3 of us are in separate beds we can have the convenience of not disturbing each other if we need the loo in the night. Although I do like the idea of a full rear longways bedroom, the kitchens in these continental vans always seem a bit limited when compared to the full oven/grill, microwave, work space and huge fridge we get in the Solaris. Agree with your comment in the Europa review about Wildax’s hard lounge cushions though!!
I hope our videos helped your decision making. Now you've got a 'van why not take out a subscription to MMM magazine for loads of ideas on places to go, campsites, accessories, etc? You can get the digital version at motorhome.ma/mmmpocketmags I agree that bunk bed layouts are great with kids but they are very rare in campervans (rather than coachbuilt motorhomes). Another maker of bunk bed campervans, for anyone searching one out, is Dreamer.
These van conversions are showing up all over - I like them. Would interested in a comparison between the popular makes, e.g. Adria, Hymer and Globecar etc.
another excellent and comprehensive review . I see these van conversions everywhere . fine for quick journey times and perhaps for getting to more off beat places . But i also see the terrible limitations of them when you finally reach a destination and want to live somewhere for a while . Pokey , cramped , profoundly compromised for long term living on the road and just absurdly expensive for what they offer
Yes, they're everywhere because this part of the motorhome market is growing fast. If you want more living space there are layouts without a fixed bed (see our WildAx Europa video) and, if you think they're expensive, how about a brand-new Auto-Trail Expedition for £36,995! Something for everyone and they're a great compromise on size for living and size for driving
It's not the latest spec but my review of the V-Line SE 636 - ua-cam.com/video/mDwrj7nH1lQ/v-deo.html - is worth a look. The Sport version is nice because it replaces the rear doors with a larger window, U-shaped seating and a useful boot area. If that appeals to you then take a look at the IH and Vantage models, too, both of which come with a rear boot option. Even better is IH's version on the VW Crafter, which feels much more modern to drive than the Fiat
@@peterv3642 thank you for such a detailed response. We have a Burstner 585 (2013) which we love but it's a tight squeeze into my drive so am considering the campervan options. I love the rear lounge in the 636 Sport. Great reviews Peter, we love watching and mulling over the options :-)
At £63k I think the Adria and Malibu 640 models look far better. In spite of its update the Globecar looks a lot of money for a fairly bland interior and lack of character. Interested to see you compare these two models side by side. Thanks Peter
The Adria is certainly bolder in its interior design but some will prefer the Globecar's more conservative approach. Where the Globecar impresses is its solid build quality and the extending washroom
Adria family for us, looking at this I feel the adria family is a solid choice considering we have two double beds , dab with android auto , a 9 speed auto , even an oven too
Only so much you can do when it's blowing a gale. Sorry, but we had to film on a day that was far from ideal. We test 'vans in all weathers, as you'll know if you've seen our WildAx Elara video!
Great review, Peter. Enjoyed this tour. A very nice bathroom and smart to use the hallway space two ways. Please get a haircut. Its too messy. Cut and color is needed, dear man. You are looking too Boho. I suppose its Covid-chic.
Totally different. These European-style campervans have their fans and they have lots more storage. Look out for our video of the new WildAx Europa which should be online soon.
Great vehicle, very expensive- we seem to pay a premium in the UK for these vehicles compared to pricing in Europe which are substantially cheaper, check it out!.
Yes but do be careful to compare like with like. We often have higher specification on UK vehicles built on the continent both on the base vehicle and on the habitation area, so a straight comparison of prices does not always tell the full story. Some British buyers do buy in the EU but the vast majority buy UK-spec RHD models from UK dealers.
Like the mmm said, it's all due to spec. Continental motorhomes ordered by UK dealers are very well equipped. Often manufacturers even have exclusive UK packs. Motorhomes for the german, and specially the french market, are very spartan regarding options. The same happens for the scandinavian markets.
Thanks for the comments, point taken re specification, I agree that UK vehicles have an excellent layout with a decent lounge and oven compared to European models and often a more comfortable experience.
Nice Capervan and decent review, tell me please, what is wrong with 120BHP, our Peugeot Boxer Autocruise has 120 BHP, we tow a trailer with a big motorcycle in it, I say in it because we use a custom braked trailer, all up ready for Holidays 4200Kg, no issues with towing up hills and down dales and still returns 34MPG, manual sis speed box. We have noticed that a lot ofVan conversions now have the sliding door on the offside, a backward step we think.
It all depends what you're used to. Many buyers in this sector are new to campervans or trading up from a VW T5/T6. In either case, 120bhp will feel very underpowered. My much smaller VW has 150bhp and I wouldn't want less. Yes, some will be happy with 120bhp but most seem to feel that 140bhp is the right engine for this size of 'van and the 160bhp is nice if you can afford it - more power (esp torque) makes for a more relaxing drive with fewer gearchanges. Imported models often have the sliding door on the offside as it's too costly to redevelop the layout, but few buyers seem to mind.
@@peterv3642 Thanks for the reply, for a fully laden Campervan with 120 HP our van never feels underpowered, no need for more, it is the use of the torque and gears that matter, you and many others would be amazed at the locations we have reached in our campervan, not only on tarmac but fairs admirably off road, although i must admit I am a professional driver, with off road and police training(for my job) which many owners are not.
one question that is be bothering me for a while now, why EU manufacturers are stil using gas cookers and not use a extra gen on diesel ( like nautical uses ) with will allow the use of induction ? mutch cleaner and easy to use , and no more prapaan space and reserve problems . ( sorry for my Eng , )
I've not seen a diesel oven, only diesel hobs and there seem to be some issues still with slow warm up and smell. Gas is widely available and convenient, especially if you have a built-in refillable tank
One design fault is No restraint on the rear doors. They swing free in the wind, resulting in smashed windows. Globecar must be aware of the fault. They display a small sticker warning of potential damage.
Normally you're ok for a couple of days. Obviously depends on the ambient temperature outside and the capacity of the leisure battery. If you're serious about parking up without hook-up just add a second battery and/or a solar panel. Compressor fridges are much more tilt-tolerant and you can just switch them on and they quickly reach operating temperature - no fiddling about switching power sources
The Campscout would certainly win for storage space and sleeping comfort but these are two very different ways of converting an extra-long Sevel van. If you want two lounge areas, take a look at the Dreamer Living Van with its drop-down bed!
I recently purchased a Compass CV40 which offers just the right amount of room for the length of base van. The equipment level for the price point is remarkable and the build quality is very good if not as solid feeling as the German marques but then again it’s part of the Hymer group. Great review as always Peter.
As regards to the advert for the gwm aura it may be a great car in the future but nobody can persuade me as it stands to switch to electric vehicles. As I’ve never had enough money to buy anything other than a ford p o s, never a krautvagen and under no circumstances would I ever buy a fiat anyhoo when I’ve bought a bucket of bolts for a few hundred quid and it inevitably packs up I phone the local dismantlers, they give me £25 and I risk a trip home in one of these coffins ⚰️ they call buses
Removing the overhead storage is the dumbest thing ever. I bang my head nearly every time on the sharp edged shelf that is now above the steering wheel. Globecar designers need their heads examined.
Most converters now use Fiats without the overcab shelf, which they mostly used to pad as people banged their heads. I've never bumped my head where there isn't a shelf.
@MotorhomeCampervan Oh, come on! I just got into the driver's seat from the back, and the shelf is staring right at the forehead! There is no padding and a square hard edge above the middle of the seat. Plus, you have lost the valuable storage space and space to put hooks to hang coats and other things. It is pathetic! Fillm yourself getting in the driver's seat and let's have a look how close that edge is. My old globecar had a piece of useless wood sticking out right above the cooking ring. Do they design these features as a joke?
@@mike520784 If you don't like the shelf, leave it home. If you want the shelf then it's no more of a head-banger than any other overcab shelf. Only Globecar offers the choice, I don't see a problem...
Radio is a cheap addition and Android Auto solves the sat-nav. It's a very popular layout but maybe you'd prefer something that feels more spacious, like this Rimor - ua-cam.com/video/XWO2tUXvtMc/v-deo.html
Price is very much par for the course - the spec is generally very good, as is quality. And you can decide whether you just want a simple radio or an all-singing unit with sat-nav, etc, then haggle to get your dealer to fit it in the price!
@@richardlong3615 For years BMW sold their cars without a radio... If you just want a basic set (and you don't exactly get Harman Kardon in a Fiat van) then Halfords can supply and fit a radio for £150, so it's not a big deal really. Thos that care about audio will rip out the standard unit anyway.
Sat-nav and radio are easy dealer additions. Carpet is an option that I'd leave at home when staying on grass campsites. I get what you're saying about oven/grill but plenty of buyers prefer the extra cupboard space in this size of camper
Most continental-built campervans have the sliding door on the offside as UK sales are not sufficient to justify swapping the whole layout - this even includes the VW California. There are exceptions, including one model from Adria, but how often do you park a camper like this in the road? For most it's not really an issue and only the same as using a UK van abroad
It's £10k less than the Malibu that I reviewed recently, although that did have an even higher spec. Compared with British brands, it's cheaper than an Auto-Sleeper (for example) of similar size with this engine/gearbox, so I'd say that this is where the market is now for a top-notch 6.4m campervan
Another good review Peter, appreciate your efforts in showing the new models especially as we are not able to view as easily as we have been able to do so previously
Many thanks!
No oven, no deal for us. Why do these people not cater for our needs. If they want to sell in the UK most of us require an oven.
Also when you are showering there is no access to the fridge or the bedroom for everyone else.
I much prefer the Adria 640 SGX or possibly the Adria 640 SLB. The Dreamer D68 is also well worth a look. But thanks Peter for an excellent video, yet again.
Yes, the lack of an oven will be a deal breaker for some but I guess it's the shape of the kitchen (and lack of demand in Germany) that dictates this. If you want an oven then makers like Adria and Pilote can offer one in this type of layout, but there seem to be enough customers who will happily go without an oven and have extra kitchen storage instead
I’m in United States, I don’t know how to plan a fall and also maybe concerned about getting parts if it is German made. But with that being said I’m very impressed. I do not care a camper needs a bathroom and a sentence.
As always thank you for sharing.
Nice review. I came to this genre of camping from clamping quite recently (Covid driven) and the decision for a PVC was easy based on the kind of exploration we wanted to do. Picking a layout ... not so easy. I'm not enthusiastic about the limited 'garage' space in this unit. Seems to be a pretty fixed formula - you have stuff in it or you don't use it.
We searched for various options and I think we were fortunate .. an initial order fell thru (not going to detail that) but we ended up with a Dreamer (Rapido) D60 which really suits our needs for us and a young labrador and a bunch of stuff. The 'garage' area is really customisable... we have the extra beds (and it has the full aluminium protection and bike mounts) - but mostly we leave one of the lower beds at home and use the other as a sofa so the flexibility is great - we use the electric drop down bed and the dog sleeps underneath next to the sofa. There are so many clever ideas in these vans . We got it in December I think - just after a lockdown ended - and it sat doing nothing for months and then after a 2 day shake out by Weston Supermare we head off and did the Scottish NC 500 and a month later Devon and Cornwall and Lands End (for the pups matching John of Groats and Lands End photos)
Dreamer has some great campervans in its range, many with unique features. Enjoy yours - I must do the NC500 one day in my VW
Great and comprehensive review, Peter and thanks. We were looking at Globecar, Malibu and Dreamer but in the end went for a Wildax Solaris XL on the Fiat with the 9 speed automatic. Great level of standard vehicle kit when compared to this Globecar, too.
We love its unusual bunk bed layout - perfect for our 9 year old daughter, and actually find that as the 3 of us are in separate beds we can have the convenience of not disturbing each other if we need the loo in the night. Although I do like the idea of a full rear longways bedroom, the kitchens in these continental vans always seem a bit limited when compared to the full oven/grill, microwave, work space and huge fridge we get in the Solaris. Agree with your comment in the Europa review about Wildax’s hard lounge cushions though!!
I hope our videos helped your decision making. Now you've got a 'van why not take out a subscription to MMM magazine for loads of ideas on places to go, campsites, accessories, etc? You can get the digital version at motorhome.ma/mmmpocketmags
I agree that bunk bed layouts are great with kids but they are very rare in campervans (rather than coachbuilt motorhomes). Another maker of bunk bed campervans, for anyone searching one out, is Dreamer.
Fantastic review, love the camper! Thanks
Thanks for watching!
These van conversions are showing up all over - I like them. Would interested in a comparison between the popular makes, e.g. Adria, Hymer and Globecar etc.
another excellent and comprehensive review . I see these van conversions everywhere . fine for quick journey times and perhaps for getting to more off beat places . But i also see the terrible limitations of them when you finally reach a destination and want to live somewhere for a while . Pokey , cramped , profoundly compromised for long term living on the road and just absurdly expensive for what they offer
Yes, they're everywhere because this part of the motorhome market is growing fast. If you want more living space there are layouts without a fixed bed (see our WildAx Europa video) and, if you think they're expensive, how about a brand-new Auto-Trail Expedition for £36,995! Something for everyone and they're a great compromise on size for living and size for driving
I wish we had these crazy expensive RVs in the US, where something similar costs approx 160,000 USD plus sales tax of an average 8%.
Thanks !
Great review as always, my request is for a review on the Autotrail V-line 636 Sport please 🙂
It's not the latest spec but my review of the V-Line SE 636 - ua-cam.com/video/mDwrj7nH1lQ/v-deo.html - is worth a look. The Sport version is nice because it replaces the rear doors with a larger window, U-shaped seating and a useful boot area. If that appeals to you then take a look at the IH and Vantage models, too, both of which come with a rear boot option. Even better is IH's version on the VW Crafter, which feels much more modern to drive than the Fiat
@@peterv3642 thank you for such a detailed response. We have a Burstner 585 (2013) which we love but it's a tight squeeze into my drive so am considering the campervan options. I love the rear lounge in the 636 Sport. Great reviews Peter, we love watching and mulling over the options :-)
At £63k I think the Adria and Malibu 640 models look far better. In spite of its update the Globecar looks a lot of money for a fairly bland interior and lack of character. Interested to see you compare these two models side by side. Thanks Peter
The Adria is certainly bolder in its interior design but some will prefer the Globecar's more conservative approach. Where the Globecar impresses is its solid build quality and the extending washroom
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Adria family for us, looking at this I feel the adria family is a solid choice considering we have two double beds , dab with android auto , a 9 speed auto , even an oven too
Adria's Twin range really started this whole fixed bed campervan genre and they're still up there with the best
Peter, on the other side of the spectrum, can you review the Dreamer Living Van?
Good review.
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Nice
Need to sort the wind on the mic out. Really distracting!
Only so much you can do when it's blowing a gale. Sorry, but we had to film on a day that was far from ideal. We test 'vans in all weathers, as you'll know if you've seen our WildAx Elara video!
@@peterv3642 get a dead cat for the mic! It’s a simple fix! I film on top of exposed hillsides and it sorts it out no trouble at all!
@@SimonBoothPhotography Already using one. It was SOOOO windy that day!
@@peterv3642 Chuck it and change it 😂
Great review, Peter. Enjoyed this tour. A very nice bathroom and smart to use the hallway space two ways.
Please get a haircut. Its too messy. Cut and color is needed, dear man. You are looking too Boho. I suppose its Covid-chic.
My daughter has dyed her hair green, so it could be worse... And my hairdresser tells me it suits me longer!
Not a patch on Wildax or Ih camper vans in my opinion.
Totally different. These European-style campervans have their fans and they have lots more storage. Look out for our video of the new WildAx Europa which should be online soon.
Great vehicle, very expensive- we seem to pay a premium in the UK for these vehicles compared to pricing in Europe which are substantially cheaper, check it out!.
Yes but do be careful to compare like with like. We often have higher specification on UK vehicles built on the continent both on the base vehicle and on the habitation area, so a straight comparison of prices does not always tell the full story. Some British buyers do buy in the EU but the vast majority buy UK-spec RHD models from UK dealers.
Like the mmm said, it's all due to spec. Continental motorhomes ordered by UK dealers are very well equipped. Often manufacturers even have exclusive UK packs. Motorhomes for the german, and specially the french market, are very spartan regarding options. The same happens for the scandinavian markets.
Thanks for the comments, point taken re specification, I agree that UK vehicles have an excellent layout with a decent lounge and oven compared to European models and often a more comfortable experience.
Nice Capervan and decent review, tell me please, what is wrong with 120BHP, our Peugeot Boxer Autocruise has 120 BHP, we tow a trailer with a big motorcycle in it, I say in it because we use a custom braked trailer, all up ready for Holidays 4200Kg, no issues with towing up hills and down dales and still returns 34MPG, manual sis speed box.
We have noticed that a lot ofVan conversions now have the sliding door on the offside, a backward step we think.
It all depends what you're used to. Many buyers in this sector are new to campervans or trading up from a VW T5/T6. In either case, 120bhp will feel very underpowered. My much smaller VW has 150bhp and I wouldn't want less. Yes, some will be happy with 120bhp but most seem to feel that 140bhp is the right engine for this size of 'van and the 160bhp is nice if you can afford it - more power (esp torque) makes for a more relaxing drive with fewer gearchanges.
Imported models often have the sliding door on the offside as it's too costly to redevelop the layout, but few buyers seem to mind.
@@peterv3642 Thanks for the reply, for a fully laden Campervan with 120 HP our van never feels underpowered, no need for more, it is the use of the torque and gears that matter, you and many others would be amazed at the locations we have reached in our campervan, not only on tarmac but fairs admirably off road, although i must admit I am a professional driver, with off road and police training(for my job) which many owners are not.
my 2021 Adria 640 twin has no rattles👍
If only they were all like that...
PS Adria quality has always been better than average
Lets not give you a radio or reversing camera but we’ll throw in a hunk of plastic on the dash to block your view.
If you mean the tablet/phone holder, it folds down flat.
@@peterv3642 thats ok but it will be in that position when driving when you’re using your phone or tablet as a satnav .
one question that is be bothering me for a while now, why EU manufacturers are stil using gas cookers and not use a extra gen on diesel ( like nautical uses ) with will allow the use of induction ? mutch cleaner and easy to use , and no more prapaan space and reserve problems . ( sorry for my Eng , )
I've not seen a diesel oven, only diesel hobs and there seem to be some issues still with slow warm up and smell. Gas is widely available and convenient, especially if you have a built-in refillable tank
One design fault is No restraint on the rear doors. They swing free in the wind, resulting in smashed windows. Globecar must be aware of the fault. They display a small sticker warning of potential damage.
I’d be right peed off if I arrived at a lovely lake side location only to see those effing wind turbines.
They are far enough away that you don't really notice them. It's a nice little campsite if you don't need showers, etc
How are compressor fridges for wild camping do they use a lot of power?
Normally you're ok for a couple of days. Obviously depends on the ambient temperature outside and the capacity of the leisure battery. If you're serious about parking up without hook-up just add a second battery and/or a solar panel. Compressor fridges are much more tilt-tolerant and you can just switch them on and they quickly reach operating temperature - no fiddling about switching power sources
Where can you buy these from
Try SMC Motorhomes in Newark
I would rather have an Autosleeper Fairford plus with arguably greater internal flexibility and with the equipment for the British market.
The Campscout would certainly win for storage space and sleeping comfort but these are two very different ways of converting an extra-long Sevel van. If you want two lounge areas, take a look at the Dreamer Living Van with its drop-down bed!
I recently purchased a Compass CV40 which offers just the right amount of room for the length of base van. The equipment level for the price point is remarkable and the build quality is very good if not as solid feeling as the German marques but then again it’s part of the Hymer group. Great review as always Peter.
63 k 👋
As regards to the advert for the gwm aura it may be a great car in the future but nobody can persuade me as it stands to switch to electric vehicles. As I’ve never had enough money to buy anything other than a ford p o s, never a krautvagen and under no circumstances would I ever buy a fiat anyhoo when I’ve bought a bucket of bolts for a few hundred quid and it inevitably packs up I phone the local dismantlers, they give me £25 and I risk a trip home in one of these coffins ⚰️ they call buses
Removing the overhead storage is the dumbest thing ever. I bang my head nearly every time on the sharp edged shelf that is now above the steering wheel. Globecar designers need their heads examined.
Most converters now use Fiats without the overcab shelf, which they mostly used to pad as people banged their heads. I've never bumped my head where there isn't a shelf.
@MotorhomeCampervan Oh, come on! I just got into the driver's seat from the back, and the shelf is staring right at the forehead! There is no padding and a square hard edge above the middle of the seat. Plus, you have lost the valuable storage space and space to put hooks to hang coats and other things. It is pathetic! Fillm yourself getting in the driver's seat and let's have a look how close that edge is. My old globecar had a piece of useless wood sticking out right above the cooking ring. Do they design these features as a joke?
@@mike520784 If you don't like the shelf, leave it home. If you want the shelf then it's no more of a head-banger than any other overcab shelf. Only Globecar offers the choice, I don't see a problem...
I lost interest at £63k but no basic satnav or radio...!!
Not feeling it with this model, feels looks a bit cramped..
Radio is a cheap addition and Android Auto solves the sat-nav. It's a very popular layout but maybe you'd prefer something that feels more spacious, like this Rimor - ua-cam.com/video/XWO2tUXvtMc/v-deo.html
£63k and not even a radio are they having a laugh?
Price is very much par for the course - the spec is generally very good, as is quality. And you can decide whether you just want a simple radio or an all-singing unit with sat-nav, etc, then haggle to get your dealer to fit it in the price!
@@peterv3642 I'm sorry but I feel that its massively overpriced for what you get. Can you imagine buying any car without even a simple radio.
@@richardlong3615 For years BMW sold their cars without a radio... If you just want a basic set (and you don't exactly get Harman Kardon in a Fiat van) then Halfords can supply and fit a radio for £150, so it's not a big deal really. Thos that care about audio will rip out the standard unit anyway.
No Sat nav, no radio, no oven, no grill, no, microwave, no carpet . . . . . . .NO THANK YOU!
Sat-nav and radio are easy dealer additions. Carpet is an option that I'd leave at home when staying on grass campsites. I get what you're saying about oven/grill but plenty of buyers prefer the extra cupboard space in this size of camper
Not very good when you are exiting the van Into the road, !!!
Most continental-built campervans have the sliding door on the offside as UK sales are not sufficient to justify swapping the whole layout - this even includes the VW California. There are exceptions, including one model from Adria, but how often do you park a camper like this in the road? For most it's not really an issue and only the same as using a UK van abroad
Way over priced.
It's £10k less than the Malibu that I reviewed recently, although that did have an even higher spec. Compared with British brands, it's cheaper than an Auto-Sleeper (for example) of similar size with this engine/gearbox, so I'd say that this is where the market is now for a top-notch 6.4m campervan