I had a 10th gen iPad ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxUGaHtKW8MwCql2fPyIm9-ftTqSMzKFFA . Felt it getting pretty slow at times even after doing a reset. So I am using that as a tablet for my 5 year old son and got this 9th gen version. MUCH faster, a little slimmer, smaller bezels, all around a leap forward. Plus, for the price that’s about $130-$150 cheaper than a current new model this is a nice deal. I look forward to the M-series CPUs coming into iPads which will really help future proof these tablets better but these latest CPUs are pretty strong and should do better to last several years with no compromises.
I'm dying for the Apple iPhone Fold but it feels like it'll never come out. I very much want a folding phone so I can go with just one device but I don't want to leave the Apple iOS universe. Ugh!!!!!
Apple's foldable will be a flip, and you wouldn't get a folding style phone from them until they change their business model. Part of why the iPad and iPadOS has stagnated is because Apple doesn't want it to become a true laptop replacement because that would eat into Mac sales. Likewise, if Apple made a fold style folding phone that does everything the IPhone and iPad does, it would cut into iPad sales, which they don't want. Apple's painted themselves into a corner with their "We want customers to own each part of the ecosystem" model.
The z fold is a weird phone . I just bought it and I'm coming from iphone 14 pro max which I still kept. I have used the 22 ultra which I didn't lovd but I think the 23 is the one. anyway I love iphone the best. However I'm not a social media user I deleted it all besides UA-cam and now I really just am using the phone for gaming UA-cam, pictures work. I need more time with the fold 4 but I will say this. I love using the phone when it's not opened up the front screen is narrow and it feels great. Shocking. When opening it up and watching anything it feels like a different phone and experience. Video calling. Notes. School. Job application. Work. All are better with Samsung fold. Iphone is just simple and really good. Galaxy fold is like a spaceship 🚀 and iphone is like a private jet that can get very close to space .
It's so hard to pay nearly an extra $1000 though. I can buy a speeate tablet for much less and will you risk travelling with these big bulky things once pickpoctets figure out these are around, I'm sure they'll be swiping them. You cpukd carry it in your pickpocet proof wallet byt the fold i think wou l d be noiceable byt only cause it's sorta thick Honestly,if i can get over an extra $1000 almost, I'd risk taking it. GOTTA Have google translate as well as GPS whenever i go to any other country. I have no sense of directions and aside from tourist maps from a hostel, no one sells real maps of towns or cities like tbey used to. Print is so dead. Last year In Slain ir Sputhern France, when my ohone died i cou l dnt find a real deal roadmap for life of me not even petrol station or a tpurisry shop (if you ever been the Say Amsterdam, d I wn that mail road to the right of The GRASSHOPPER across Central Station, it's all chockies and dutch souvenirs to buy last mi ute at a ripoff but still cheap enough to get gifts in 5 minutes for 5 people.) SO SORRY, I forgot my point and ranted bout nada.
Dex!!! You completely left out Samsung Dex mode. It let's you run a windows style OS off the phone when you connect it to a TV, monitor or projector and a bluetooth keyboard and mouse. The fold is a phone, tablet and PC all in one.
Gaming on the zfold 4 changes things a lot. Emulate anything old game made for crt tvs and BAM that entire display fills up. It's freakin glorious. Same when watching old movies or tv shows. Or old 4:3 anime.
I've got the Fold 3, won't upgrade till the Fold 5 ... 4 doesn't offer enough for me to upgrade to. I use my Fold 3 as my everything device, it has 100% replaced my PC.
The chip in the zfold 4 is an emulation beast. Able to have a history of games from nes to playstation 2 in your pocket....especially if you have 512gb. Plus the 4:3 aspect ratio is great for retro gaming. I love the z fold 4. Plus a file system you can copy large art files to pc with ease. And Dex mode is awesome. I came from the apple eco and I can't think of going back....but I do miss procreate.
@@pedrozurita6846 The emulators I use the most are AetherSX2 for PS2, Dolphin for Gamecube/Wii, DraStic for NDS, Citra for 3DS, Duckstation for PSOne, Redream for Dreamcast, Snes9xEx for SNES. There are so many more but these are my favorites. ROMS you have to find separately.
Great video.... I'm loving my Z fold four for that gorgeous large screen and epic multitasking. Just upgraded from a Note 10 plus. Really hoping Samsung can make the fold 5 outside screen as wide as a note 10 Increase battery power And house the s pen inside the device.
Great video but you forget the advantage for fold 4 in camera. The main camera is way better than camera on any tablet. On top of that, the ability to use main camera in selfy mode 🙂
That’s true, but I would never use my tablet to take photos, so that’s why I didn’t consider it. I personally just pull out my phone, but the z fold 4 definitely has better cameras
I huge part of this device is that it's a vloggers dream device. The cameras are great,video stabilization is super and the options for using the cover screen asa monitor all in one hand are all worth the cost.
It’s a comparison of the tablet aspect of the Z fold 4. Remember the Z fold 4 is $1800 and iPad mini is $500. But I made sure to say it’s like a phone and tablet in one. If im going to compare cameras, than I would have to bring the iPhone in and compare it that way. The truth is nobody really uses their iPad to take photos, just like it would be unfair to say iPad is better because it’s much cheaper
Looking at the leaked power of the snapdragon 8 gen 2 the plus version on the z fold 5 would be insane. The next foldable will indeed be a piece of tech to own.
Your making the right choice if the rumors are true the Z Fold 5 is gonna be unlike any other Foldable or non Foldable phone. It's gonna be a whole new design better camara bigger inner and front screen and better specs and more.
You are missing a very huge point there in favor of the Z Fold line up: font size. The small font size on the iPad mini makes it very difficult to use on extended time, and multitasking can be done only in landscape left& right, no other option. On the zfold you screen left/right or top/bottom in landscape or portrait + the possibility to have 3 apss at once.
@@DFwire that's just a lie, we probably made a thousand polls on that topic over on the foldable subreddit and the best estimate is that around 5% of folds will break on their own (in their lifetime). I've had my fold2 for over 2y now, I probably dropped it hundreds of times, I gave it to my friends (who also had to drop it a few times), it landed in 40cm deep snow, it landed in sand, it got scratched up with long fingernails and it's in use pretty much 24/7 and it doesn't show any sign of breaking (all that without a case btw) :) incredibly durable phone and that was only their second gen
What amazes me about the ipad mini. Even if you buy the LTE version, you still cant make regular phone calls. Apple know that would eat into iphone sales.
A 256GB iPad mini with wifi+cell and an apple pencil is $928 before tax 😂. My 512GB zf4 was $1143 after trading in an old broken s10+ 😁. I bought the pencil for $25.
Only comparison that makes actual sense.. kudos to being realistic for the video.. i gave a thumbs up. I wished more poeple realized fold 4 is a folding tablet.. more than a phone.. samsung just puts it into the phone category because there are more people out in the market to buy phone rather than a tablet.
Any advice? I’m currently considering between a new iPad Mini or a used Z-fold 3, both of which would run me about $500. I already have an iPhone XR (soon to upgrade to 15 Plus) and an iPad Air 2022, so I wouldn’t be getting a cellular plan on either one, both would be *just* as a tablet. Features I’m interested in for the Mini are - I used to have one (2013 model) and it felt *amazing* to use, my favorite form-factor I’ve ever held - it would work with my iCloud purchases I’ve already made, and all the other Apple integration I’ve already set up on devices I have - I remember that my old one was *great* for handheld gaming, typing, and content consumption However, I’m worried that it would be redundant. It might be the *best* way to do all the things I’d normally do on my phone, but my phone’s adequate as-is and I’m getting a bigger one soon, and I’d be juggling two iPads On the other hand, a Z-fold 3 is interesting to me because - it’d be an “in” to the Android space - I’ve always wanted to try one out but I don’t want to completely cut myself off from iMessage, there are a few Android features that Apple simply doesn’t have and I’m curious which feature set I’d like best overall - as a folding device, I could more easily take it with me anywhere I went, so I’d have an Apple phone and an Android phone/tablet everywhere However I’m worried that perhaps the reason why a 2021 Z-fold is over two thirds off is because it’s not gonna functionally last a lot longer. The fact that there are so many “for parts” listings where the screen is broken at the fold doesn’t help my confidence either. Two others options that are on the table - just use a 6.7-inch iPhone and an 11-inch iPad because they cover all my smart device needs, and spend the ~$500 on something else like a PS5 - wait for the Google Fold to come out and then drop in price, as I like the idea of Google’s phones and would be interested to demo the OS and potentially switch from iPhone+folding tablet to just a folding phone in the future Any advice?
I think you can stick to the apple eco system with iPad Air that you already have, or buy one and sell the old one. Not much benefit from partially switching from apple to android, given that you don't have a cellular connection on it and given that you are already in the apple's eco system. Forget Pixel fold and ZF3 issues, as a ZF4 user Pixel fold is way behind the ZF in every aspects and not much issue with the ZF's durability. But just considering your general usage, not really reasonable to buy ZF. Only If you are a tech geek or really want to have folding experience, then you can go for ZF3.
I didn't read your full statement but I'm one of those people who carry my s22 ultra and an ipad mini along with it. With the line of work I'm in, the sensitivity of the inner screen and the subpar battery life mentioned, I can't do a fold. I'm waiting until apple comes out with an ipad mini with 120htz, ambled screen and the latest phone chip when it comes out. I would then sell both my samsung and ipad mini 6 for the ipad mini 7 and be totally happy.
@@johnnyquest2651 I actually had ended up deciding that I do plan on getting a folding phone, BUT I’m gonna wait until about 5 years from now for the next time I’m upgrading my phone and just have it be my one and only phone - I had been going through an obsessive phase about tech in general when I was thinking about a secondary phone, and it’s really not needed.
I am waiting for the next one, Fold Z 5. I am sure that it would remove the crease and have better battery life. I hope they make it a little bit longer so that they can get optimal ratio of any contents.
Samsung said it has to have the crease in order to fold and not wear and tear so soon. But yes a samsung slide phone would eliminate that issue guaranteed
Crease is actualy not big deal you hardly ever notice it and you do opening or closing it you get that old school book feeling, i dont see my self upgrade to fold 5 because of the crease internal pen i also come from note 20 ultra and i perfer to carry the bigger pen that also on the case gives great grip for hold the phone in tablet with one hand
The Apple pen doesn't really have a place to carry either. Except with some magnets, you could Jerry rig something like that, and you wouldn't even have to use child labor!
i have the ipad M1 pro. and the Z fold 5.Every aspect of the FOLD 5 is great, but the quality of the sound is not that good even the Dolby Atmos is ON, compare to my old Ipad the quality of the sound is great
The ipad fails because its like having an over grown iPhone! Lol. The fold can be used as a portable folding note pad that can also do dex making it into a mini computer! Im planing on getting a fold as a note pad an my light exel use with the pen.
Once folding phones get bigger and slimer they are the future of next generation devices who wants a boring slab when it can do even more if it could fold out into a decent work surface
I prefer the aspect ratio of the iPad but. Wish the z Fold would be this size but with the going horizontal and so it would be thicker, and not a thin small cover screen.
The biggest problem with the Z Fold 4 is it’s too thick as a phone when not in tablet mode. I really wanted to love it and I hope they improve this form factor.
I understand why people would be turned off to that thickness, but I like it. I usually add an extra battery case or something thick to my phones to get em thicker and heftier in the hand
Great video. Your points include most of how I justified the cost of my Z Fold 3 which was less than list with trades. You never even mentioned the fact that there is access to 5G cell service with the Z Fold.
I'd say Samsung Pencil is better for two reasons: - Screen conducts electricity to the pencil which has a coil, which allows for a button on the pencil and to point where it is even when not touching the screen - Does not need to be charged to function Samsung has a pro version of the pencil which allows for bluetooth remote with gestures and all like a magic wand (Air Actions), but is charged through a usb-c cable, I'd have wished for it to charge wirelessly with something on the phone
I really hate commenting this under every second video because I don't want to sound like a fanboy but reviewing the fold4 as a 1800$ device doesn't make much sense in my eyes as noone will get this phone at retail price anymore. Even at the point of this video (wich is 3 weeks prior to this comment) you could easily find ones going for ~1200 in most places. At that price it makes much more sense than at 1800 and I think that's what we should consider not some hypothetical value from a few months back that only lasted like a week xD
I want to buy a z fold 4 but that price tag sheeeshh and still no dust resistance is a big bummer cuz i take my phones everywhere and make them go through everything
An Iphone 14 pro with 512 is $1299 from Apple direct and the ipad mini 256 is $549 from Amazon. Apple was willing to give me a whole $250 for my Note 20 ultra making the price after trade in at $1600. I just purchased the Zfold 4 from Samsung. I got an educational price plus $400 off and $1000 for my Note 20 ultra. Total ended at $500. And I only need to carry one device but I'll have my tablet with me at all times.
So i have an s21 plus and if i were to get the fold i must sell it on the other hand i have an iPhone 11 pro so if i get the mini I’ll be looped into apple ecosystem, but am digging the fold still
the zfold has an oled panel but the black bars due to the zfolds plastic and highly reflective display, when watching videos looked blacker on the ipad.
@@smartphonefan5226 this didn't age well , with the new ipad OS 16 and new Stage Manager, 3 apps at the same times are a flawless experience that samsung can't ever dream of. Gl and carry on !
@@ofensatul Thought I am not specific like my Fold4, the floating window does make my note taking and article writing much more convenient. Which I do not know whether Apple will develop it in a decade.
That's a narrow point of view. No reason they can't stick a sd card with sim card like they used to. Only reason they don't is because they want to extract more money from people for higher priced internal storage.
I've always thought that the Samsung Fold 4 lacked at least 4mm in width and 1cm in height, and this comparison with the iPad Mini confirms my thoughts.
@@davidaguero451 Otherwise, the previous message and this one are sent from an S21, and the last time I used an iPhone as my main smartphone must have been with the iPhone 7 Plus, and it didn't last 3 months. I've always been a Samsung user, but if I find there's a way to improve something in hardware or software, I'll say so even if I'm a Samsung fan. 🙏🏽
I just saw this comparison and am one of the few that carries the ipad mini alongside a phone. 1. I don't trust the durability of the inner screen of a fold 2. The baterry life has been reported as subpar in folds as a whole 3. The cost of owning the s22 ultra and the ipad mini is pretty close to what the fold cost and the elpencil in the s22 ulta has more functions than the one on the fold. 4. Ipad os is much better than android 12l. Not to mention that the a15 chipset is better than qualcom. I could keep going, but though I'm in the minority,I'vee never seen the draw to a smartphone that folds. If apple would make an ipad mini pro with all the bells and whisles of a smartphone but keep ipad os and force the carriers to carry calls and text on i, I'd honestly ditch my s22 ultra.
@@TechVerveyt thank you!... Do you have verses on the right side while reading the watchtower for example... On both portrait and landscape? Is there even a difference in landscape mode in the app or anywhere else?
Hello I noticed you have the JW library. My brother!!!!! Thinking of switching from my iPhone 13 Pro Max to the fold 4 so it’s so convenient at the meetings
I think Samsung's mistake is to have wanted to make the Fold (too) compact to be quite easily usable with one hand when it is folded. But above all the error is to have only one size of Fold. Samsung should consider releasing 2 Folds, one smaller in height, much like the Oppo Find N but with an outer screen not as wide as the Oppo but 3mm wider than the current Fold 4, and a much taller one that when unfolded will be as long and wide (a little wider by 3 - 4mm would be ideal) than an iPad Mini 6, and who would have the pencil integrate like the Notes . And also, Samsung should consider putting a screen like the Oppo N2 Flip's exterior screen next to the rear photo sensors. But I know very well that they will do none of that, on the other hand, I am convinced that another manufacturer will do it and I even think that it will be Apple when they go into the folding market.
I have a Fold 4 and two tablets. I like to spread the load and not have to charge any one device too often. If I used my Fold 4 100% of the time I would be charging it twice a day.
I have Fold4, but still have ipad pro 12.9, 11.5, mini, air. Lenovo tab pro 13, 11.5. Huawei 10.9, 7.... Fold4 for outside use, tablets for home. But lately does not touch the tablets much....😅
My iPad Mini 6 overheats and freezes in hot humid weather, has a poor display and wasteful font scaling, with many apps not optimized for the format. So I don’t agree that Apple has better apps for the Mini. I also have the Flip 4 but may go with the Fold next yea and trade in the Mini.
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I got an iPad and the fold 4. The fold fold is way better at multi tasking and I don't have to go back to my phone to answer text or phone calls...
I had a 10th gen iPad ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxUGaHtKW8MwCql2fPyIm9-ftTqSMzKFFA . Felt it getting pretty slow at times even after doing a reset. So I am using that as a tablet for my 5 year old son and got this 9th gen version. MUCH faster, a little slimmer, smaller bezels, all around a leap forward. Plus, for the price that’s about $130-$150 cheaper than a current new model this is a nice deal. I look forward to the M-series CPUs coming into iPads which will really help future proof these tablets better but these latest CPUs are pretty strong and should do better to last several years with no compromises.
The best Camera is the one with you everyday ---- Steve Jobs
The best tablet is the one with you everyday in your pocket
Waiting for z fold 5..
I'm dying for the Apple iPhone Fold but it feels like it'll never come out. I very much want a folding phone so I can go with just one device but I don't want to leave the Apple iOS universe. Ugh!!!!!
I understand what your saying! I hope we do see a foldable from Apple. That would be awesome
Apple's foldable will be a flip, and you wouldn't get a folding style phone from them until they change their business model.
Part of why the iPad and iPadOS has stagnated is because Apple doesn't want it to become a true laptop replacement because that would eat into Mac sales.
Likewise, if Apple made a fold style folding phone that does everything the IPhone and iPad does, it would cut into iPad sales, which they don't want.
Apple's painted themselves into a corner with their "We want customers to own each part of the ecosystem" model.
I wan z folder 4 so bad for draw on it bye bye iPhone
The z fold is a weird phone . I just bought it and I'm coming from iphone 14 pro max which I still kept. I have used the 22 ultra which I didn't lovd but I think the 23 is the one. anyway I love iphone the best. However I'm not a social media user I deleted it all besides UA-cam and now I really just am using the phone for gaming UA-cam, pictures work. I need more time with the fold 4 but I will say this. I love using the phone when it's not opened up the front screen is narrow and it feels great. Shocking. When opening it up and watching anything it feels like a different phone and experience. Video calling. Notes. School. Job application. Work. All are better with Samsung fold. Iphone is just simple and really good. Galaxy fold is like a spaceship 🚀 and iphone is like a private jet that can get very close to space .
Sorry as much as i wanna agree with apple haters, there are no better tablets than apple.
I got my Z Fold 4 for three weeks and this is my first foldable phone. It's been amazing! I think I can't go back for the normal average phone again.
Yeah I know what you mean! It’s been really great so far!
me too!
I feel the same about fold phones
It's so hard to pay nearly an extra $1000 though. I can buy a speeate tablet for much less and will you risk travelling with these big bulky things once pickpoctets figure out these are around, I'm sure they'll be swiping them.
You cpukd carry it in your pickpocet proof wallet byt the fold i think wou l d be noiceable byt only cause it's sorta thick
Honestly,if i can get over an extra $1000 almost, I'd risk taking it.
GOTTA Have google translate as well as GPS whenever i go to any other country.
I have no sense of directions and aside from tourist maps from a hostel, no one sells real maps of towns or cities like tbey used to.
Print is so dead. Last year In Slain ir Sputhern France, when my ohone died i cou l dnt find a real deal roadmap for life of me not even petrol station or a tpurisry shop (if you ever been the Say Amsterdam, d I wn that mail road to the right of The GRASSHOPPER across Central Station, it's all chockies and dutch souvenirs to buy last mi ute at a ripoff but still cheap enough to get gifts in 5 minutes for 5 people.)
SO SORRY, I forgot my point and ranted bout nada.
Same here love it.
Dex!!! You completely left out Samsung Dex mode. It let's you run a windows style OS off the phone when you connect it to a TV, monitor or projector and a bluetooth keyboard and mouse. The fold is a phone, tablet and PC all in one.
Gaming on the zfold 4 changes things a lot. Emulate anything old game made for crt tvs and BAM that entire display fills up. It's freakin glorious. Same when watching old movies or tv shows. Or old 4:3 anime.
I've got the Fold 3, won't upgrade till the Fold 5 ... 4 doesn't offer enough for me to upgrade to. I use my Fold 3 as my everything device, it has 100% replaced my PC.
Have the Samsung Galaxy z Fold 4, and I'm absolutely loving everything about it.
The chip in the zfold 4 is an emulation beast. Able to have a history of games from nes to playstation 2 in your pocket....especially if you have 512gb. Plus the 4:3 aspect ratio is great for retro gaming. I love the z fold 4. Plus a file system you can copy large art files to pc with ease. And Dex mode is awesome. I came from the apple eco and I can't think of going back....but I do miss procreate.
Do you have to jail break to run an emulator?
@@DJ_T11 not on an android phone. All software is on the google play store
Pshh I've been running emulators on Android for the last 7 years. Androids really do let you do what you want without jailbreaking anything
@@gundamo_creates What app do you find has best game choices?
@@pedrozurita6846 The emulators I use the most are AetherSX2 for PS2, Dolphin for Gamecube/Wii, DraStic for NDS, Citra for 3DS, Duckstation for PSOne, Redream for Dreamcast, Snes9xEx for SNES. There are so many more but these are my favorites. ROMS you have to find separately.
Great video....
I'm loving my Z fold four for that gorgeous large screen and epic multitasking.
Just upgraded from a Note 10 plus.
Really hoping Samsung can make the fold 5 outside screen as wide as a note 10
Increase battery power
And house the s pen inside the device.
Yeah those are definitely things we need to see with Fold 5. Thanks!
No, don't agree with that. Maybe a tad wider but no more than that. Single handed use is a awesome with the slight larger front screen now.
Don't agree as well. For business use the fold 4 is perfect. No the front screen does not need to be wider. Why. Open it when you want wider.
@@Anythingyoulike2013 because I want it to be wider. That's why.
@@UBZUKki so you can play games or watch mindless videos? this is a business tool, not a toy.
Great video but you forget the advantage for fold 4 in camera.
The main camera is way better than camera on any tablet. On top of that, the ability to use main camera in selfy mode 🙂
That’s true, but I would never use my tablet to take photos, so that’s why I didn’t consider it. I personally just pull out my phone, but the z fold 4 definitely has better cameras
I huge part of this device is that it's a vloggers dream device. The cameras are great,video stabilization is super and the options for using the cover screen asa monitor all in one hand are all worth the cost.
That is definitely a cool part of this device!
Then what kind of a comparison is this then. You have to compare everything Pros and Cons. ZF4 wins by far.
It’s a comparison of the tablet aspect of the Z fold 4. Remember the Z fold 4 is $1800 and iPad mini is $500. But I made sure to say it’s like a phone and tablet in one. If im going to compare cameras, than I would have to bring the iPhone in and compare it that way. The truth is nobody really uses their iPad to take photos, just like it would be unfair to say iPad is better because it’s much cheaper
Looking at the leaked power of the snapdragon 8 gen 2 the plus version on the z fold 5 would be insane. The next foldable will indeed be a piece of tech to own.
I love the Z Fold, but I don't own it yet. Waiting for Z fold 5 to appear on the Martket - it's going to be awesome, I think.
Your making the right choice if the rumors are true the Z Fold 5 is gonna be unlike any other Foldable or non Foldable phone. It's gonna be a whole new design better camara bigger inner and front screen and better specs and more.
@@justinsmith1831 lol
@@justinsmith1831 lol it was not in fact a whole new design 😂
That edit combining the iPads @ 2:50 = brilliant. 😆
Got a fold 3 for 550 on Amazon last week :) amazing value
You are missing a very huge point there in favor of the Z Fold line up: font size.
The small font size on the iPad mini makes it very difficult to use on extended time, and multitasking can be done only in landscape left& right, no other option. On the zfold you screen left/right or top/bottom in landscape or portrait + the possibility to have 3 apss at once.
I also find that the font scaling is poor on the Mini. It’s like Apple got lazy with it.
Definately z fold 4 , from the price and build quality and user experience. You got what you pay !
Very true!
@@DFwire Currently have the Z Fold 4 after 1 month still working, so your a liar.
@@DFwire that's just a lie, we probably made a thousand polls on that topic over on the foldable subreddit and the best estimate is that around 5% of folds will break on their own (in their lifetime). I've had my fold2 for over 2y now, I probably dropped it hundreds of times, I gave it to my friends (who also had to drop it a few times), it landed in 40cm deep snow, it landed in sand, it got scratched up with long fingernails and it's in use pretty much 24/7 and it doesn't show any sign of breaking (all that without a case btw) :) incredibly durable phone and that was only their second gen
I got recently a z fold 5, and I forgot all about the ipad pro!
You hit it on the nose: it's so easy to carry my phone around rather than the ipad
What amazes me about the ipad mini. Even if you buy the LTE version, you still cant make regular phone calls. Apple know that would eat into iphone sales.
A 256GB iPad mini with wifi+cell and an apple pencil is $928 before tax 😂. My 512GB zf4 was $1143 after trading in an old broken s10+ 😁. I bought the pencil for $25.
Fold 3 here on Android 13, perfect for me
Next is Fold 5 or Pixel Fold
Great review. Few youtubers compared Z Fold 4 with a tablet.
There is thé Dexmode on Fold... you can transform your Phone in a PC and it's great.
professinal work is not just crerating video's. vast majority of people are not content creators.
I mean… 1 device is better than having 2 devices doing the same thing
Only comparison that makes actual sense.. kudos to being realistic for the video.. i gave a thumbs up. I wished more poeple realized fold 4 is a folding tablet.. more than a phone.. samsung just puts it into the phone category because there are more people out in the market to buy phone rather than a tablet.
My son went for the mini...a month later I got the fold 4. He really regreted getting it
Any advice? I’m currently considering between a new iPad Mini or a used Z-fold 3, both of which would run me about $500. I already have an iPhone XR (soon to upgrade to 15 Plus) and an iPad Air 2022, so I wouldn’t be getting a cellular plan on either one, both would be *just* as a tablet.
Features I’m interested in for the Mini are
- I used to have one (2013 model) and it felt *amazing* to use, my favorite form-factor I’ve ever held
- it would work with my iCloud purchases I’ve already made, and all the other Apple integration I’ve already set up on devices I have
- I remember that my old one was *great* for handheld gaming, typing, and content consumption
However, I’m worried that it would be redundant. It might be the *best* way to do all the things I’d normally do on my phone, but my phone’s adequate as-is and I’m getting a bigger one soon, and I’d be juggling two iPads
On the other hand, a Z-fold 3 is interesting to me because
- it’d be an “in” to the Android space - I’ve always wanted to try one out but I don’t want to completely cut myself off from iMessage, there are a few Android features that Apple simply doesn’t have and I’m curious which feature set I’d like best overall
- as a folding device, I could more easily take it with me anywhere I went, so I’d have an Apple phone and an Android phone/tablet everywhere
However I’m worried that perhaps the reason why a 2021 Z-fold is over two thirds off is because it’s not gonna functionally last a lot longer. The fact that there are so many “for parts” listings where the screen is broken at the fold doesn’t help my confidence either.
Two others options that are on the table
- just use a 6.7-inch iPhone and an 11-inch iPad because they cover all my smart device needs, and spend the ~$500 on something else like a PS5
- wait for the Google Fold to come out and then drop in price, as I like the idea of Google’s phones and would be interested to demo the OS and potentially switch from iPhone+folding tablet to just a folding phone in the future
Any advice?
I think you can stick to the apple eco system with iPad Air that you already have, or buy one and sell the old one. Not much benefit from partially switching from apple to android, given that you don't have a cellular connection on it and given that you are already in the apple's eco system. Forget Pixel fold and ZF3 issues, as a ZF4 user Pixel fold is way behind the ZF in every aspects and not much issue with the ZF's durability. But just considering your general usage, not really reasonable to buy ZF.
Only If you are a tech geek or really want to have folding experience, then you can go for ZF3.
I didn't read your full statement but I'm one of those people who carry my s22 ultra and an ipad mini along with it.
With the line of work I'm in, the sensitivity of the inner screen and the subpar battery life mentioned, I can't do a fold. I'm waiting until apple comes out with an ipad mini with 120htz, ambled screen and the latest phone chip when it comes out. I would then sell both my samsung and ipad mini 6 for the ipad mini 7 and be totally happy.
@@johnnyquest2651 I actually had ended up deciding that I do plan on getting a folding phone, BUT I’m gonna wait until about 5 years from now for the next time I’m upgrading my phone and just have it be my one and only phone - I had been going through an obsessive phase about tech in general when I was thinking about a secondary phone, and it’s really not needed.
@@johnnyquest2651 The fold is awesome, but buy some sort of insurance for it. The inner display will crack down the center of the fold eventually.
I have a fold 4. It's amazing only wish it didn't those aspect ratio black bars for video and better battery
The only problem I have with the z fold is the weird shiny plastic looking screen… It makes the screen look cheap, and the glare is horrible.
I am waiting for the next one, Fold Z 5. I am sure that it would remove the crease and have better battery life. I hope they make it a little bit longer so that they can get optimal ratio of any contents.
Hopefully lighter and thinner to
I believe you're waiting for Samsung's Galaxy's Z Slide phone edition as opposed to the Z Fold 5.
Samsung said it has to have the crease in order to fold and not wear and tear so soon. But yes a samsung slide phone would eliminate that issue guaranteed
@Hairline Doctor They just announced the teardrop design. Perhaps our dream may come true!
Crease is actualy not big deal you hardly ever notice it and you do opening or closing it you get that old school book feeling, i dont see my self upgrade to fold 5 because of the crease internal pen i also come from note 20 ultra and i perfer to carry the bigger pen that also on the case gives great grip for hold the phone in tablet with one hand
The Apple pen doesn't really have a place to carry either. Except with some magnets, you could Jerry rig something like that, and you wouldn't even have to use child labor!
I just got the Fold 4 512GB for $600 with my $1000 trade in plus $300 added to the deal on their website! Amazing!!!
Me too
Comparing a fablet to tablet is like comparing oranges and concrete buildings. Thank you for attending my Ted talk.
i have the ipad M1 pro. and the Z fold 5.Every aspect of the FOLD 5 is great, but the quality of the sound is not that good even the Dolby Atmos is ON, compare to my old Ipad the quality of the sound is great
Haven't touched my iPad mini since I got my Fold
Had my Fold 4 for 4 months , best thing I've bought for year's , so superior, dumped iPhone s on the kids,
The ipad fails because its like having an over grown iPhone! Lol. The fold can be used as a portable folding note pad that can also do dex making it into a mini computer! Im planing on getting a fold as a note pad an my light exel use with the pen.
Once folding phones get bigger and slimer they are the future of next generation devices who wants a boring slab when it can do even more if it could fold out into a decent work surface
Fold phones are turning tablets into ipods.
I would LOVE the Z Fold to be wider.... probably not as wide as the iPad mini but somewhere between the two.
I am saving for Z fold 4 now after watching this video. Thanks
I like the JW Library App!
I prefer the aspect ratio of the iPad but. Wish the z Fold would be this size but with the going horizontal and so it would be thicker, and not a thin small cover screen.
Great video. Can you share the wallpaper on the iPad ? Thanks
Thanks man! Here you go: www.peakpx.com/en/hd-wallpaper-desktop-obopi
Great video
You can change the graphic ratio on your settings if you don't like the black bars
The biggest problem with the Z Fold 4 is it’s too thick as a phone when not in tablet mode. I really wanted to love it and I hope they improve this form factor.
Any thinner would make it delicate
I understand why people would be turned off to that thickness, but I like it. I usually add an extra battery case or something thick to my phones to get em thicker and heftier in the hand
@@Flavorful924 Honor Magic V2?
There's a reason the Z Fold line is the most durable in the game.
Which one is better for JW app?
I got both
Great video. Your points include most of how I justified the cost of my Z Fold 3 which was less than list with trades. You never even mentioned the fact that there is access to 5G cell service with the Z Fold.
Yea and he also didn't mention that 5g is a joke and gimmick...so what is your point
@@samgoff5289 My point was access to cell service when away from wifi which the basic iPad doesn't have.
@@samgoff5289 5g is not a joke. depends on your area
I'd say Samsung Pencil is better for two reasons:
- Screen conducts electricity to the pencil which has a coil, which allows for a button on the pencil and to point where it is even when not touching the screen
- Does not need to be charged to function
Samsung has a pro version of the pencil which allows for bluetooth remote with gestures and all like a magic wand (Air Actions), but is charged through a usb-c cable, I'd have wished for it to charge wirelessly with something on the phone
you're only supposed to use the Fold Edition S-pen with the Fold to protect the screen
@@estusflask982 The pro version also is made for it, in fact it has a button to switch between normal and fold mode
I really hate commenting this under every second video because I don't want to sound like a fanboy but reviewing the fold4 as a 1800$ device doesn't make much sense in my eyes as noone will get this phone at retail price anymore. Even at the point of this video (wich is 3 weeks prior to this comment) you could easily find ones going for ~1200 in most places. At that price it makes much more sense than at 1800 and I think that's what we should consider not some hypothetical value from a few months back that only lasted like a week xD
I find that my S-pro is way better than my apple pencil and the S-pen acts more like a Stylus than then Apple Pencil
That's funny,I watched a power video and the z fold 4 beat the most powerful chip you can find,yeah the ipad mini lost to the z fold 4.
Can you share the link for those wallpapers??
I agree,but I would also call the z fold mini tablet the iPad mini killer,i would make a lot of apple people mad but it's the truth.
Black bars have been around for years with the advent of widescreen films.
I want to buy a z fold 4 but that price tag sheeeshh and still no dust resistance is a big bummer cuz i take my phones everywhere and make them go through everything
An Iphone 14 pro with 512 is $1299 from Apple direct and the ipad mini 256 is $549 from Amazon. Apple was willing to give me a whole $250 for my Note 20 ultra making the price after trade in at $1600. I just purchased the Zfold 4 from Samsung. I got an educational price plus $400 off and $1000 for my Note 20 ultra. Total ended at $500. And I only need to carry one device but I'll have my tablet with me at all times.
the video on the fold 4 looks tiny compared to that iPad..Keep in mind that iPad screen is small on top of that
Bye bye apple
#teamZfold4
Why do all other phone displays and colors look like shit compared to Samsung phones?
Lol i think the same thing sometimes
So i have an s21 plus and if i were to get the fold i must sell it on the other hand i have an iPhone 11 pro so if i get the mini I’ll be looped into apple ecosystem, but am digging the fold still
You can not call with iPad mini! So, you can not compare them.
i never noticed the iPad mini is really ugly with those bezzels.
Nice wallpapers. Do you know where can I get the same?
Same question
the zfold has an oled panel but the black bars due to the zfolds plastic and highly reflective display, when watching videos looked blacker on the ipad.
@1:22 The child slave labor users have some pretty gnarly black bars too! And they used child slave labor!
Кто-то должен был сделать такое сравнение! Спасибо!
Thank you for the amazing video. Would you make a video about other Alternatives foldable devices with a more reasonable price?
Either way ima still have a tablet. Cause imessege etc
We can open 3 apps in multitasking on iPad 6. You just only neeed to slide the app from the taskbar to the screen et voilà.
While that is true, it's not as good of an experience compared to Samsung's solution. Also, not all apps support Slide Over.
@@smartphonefan5226 this didn't age well , with the new ipad OS 16 and new Stage Manager, 3 apps at the same times are a flawless experience that samsung can't ever dream of. Gl and carry on !
@@ofensatul 3 apps? isn't screen too small for that? portrait or landscape
@@ofensatul Thought I am not specific like my Fold4, the floating window does make my note taking and article writing much more convenient. Which I do not know whether Apple will develop it in a decade.
@@estusflask982 ipad is bigger than z fold.. what r u on about mate
Z fold 4 beats iPad mini 100/0
my ipad mini is my phone :v
Xiaomi fold 2 8 inches.
But can it fold lol
Shoutout to mkbhd 😊
Where did you get your Z fold 4 wallpaper
Storage is a mute point. Besides apps, most things are in the cloud.
That's a narrow point of view. No reason they can't stick a sd card with sim card like they used to. Only reason they don't is because they want to extract more money from people for higher priced internal storage.
Good video
I've always thought that the Samsung Fold 4 lacked at least 4mm in width and 1cm in height, and this comparison with the iPad Mini confirms my thoughts.
Of course it does it’s not a complete tablet it’s a phone with tablet features lol
@Timothy Johnson exactly these iphone users in denial lol
@@davidaguero451 Otherwise, the previous message and this one are sent from an S21, and the last time I used an iPhone as my main smartphone must have been with the iPhone 7 Plus, and it didn't last 3 months.
I've always been a Samsung user, but if I find there's a way to improve something in hardware or software, I'll say so even if I'm a Samsung fan.
🙏🏽
I just saw this comparison and am one of the few that carries the ipad mini alongside a phone.
1. I don't trust the durability of the inner screen of a fold
2. The baterry life has been reported as subpar in folds as a whole
3. The cost of owning the s22 ultra and the ipad mini is pretty close to what the fold cost and the elpencil in the s22 ulta has more functions than the one on the fold.
4. Ipad os is much better than android 12l. Not to mention that the a15 chipset is better than qualcom.
I could keep going, but though I'm in the minority,I'vee never seen the draw to a smartphone that folds. If apple would make an ipad mini pro with all the bells and whisles of a smartphone but keep ipad os and force the carriers to carry calls and text on i, I'd honestly ditch my s22 ultra.
Where did you get your wallpaper?
How does the spreadsheet look like in z4?
Can you mark text with the s pen in jw library?
Yea! It works great!
@@TechVerveyt thank you!... Do you have verses on the right side while reading the watchtower for example... On both portrait and landscape?
Is there even a difference in landscape mode in the app or anywhere else?
Hello I noticed you have the JW library. My brother!!!!! Thinking of switching from my iPhone 13 Pro Max to the fold 4 so it’s so convenient at the meetings
Yes! Thanks bro! Yes it is, I love it
@@TechVerveyt may jehovah bless you and your family.. keep up the fine fight
@@TechVerveyt have you always been an iPhone guy, or you go with both typically?
@@24hrstolive27 I go with both. I have an iPhone and android. Both have their pros and cons
@@24hrstolive27 you too!
Where did you get the wallpaper?
Samsung has a ton of great high quality wallpapers on their Galaxy Store
I got both and honestly IPad mini is in a league of its own
It can fold too? Wow! I want an Ipad mini too!
@@daggyag9613 terrible lol
you can fit the fold in your pocket tho
@@daggyag9613 hilarious
just joking that was a very bad attempted joke.
@@nothingatall3104 yup ur right but imagine if the iPad mini could fold too now wouldn't that be an apple to apple comparison! 😜
the only thing that the fold4 lacks is the micro sd slot.
I think Samsung's mistake is to have wanted to make the Fold (too) compact to be quite easily usable with one hand when it is folded.
But above all the error is to have only one size of Fold.
Samsung should consider releasing 2 Folds, one smaller in height, much like the Oppo Find N but with an outer screen not as wide as the Oppo but 3mm wider than the current Fold 4, and a much taller one that when unfolded will be as long and wide (a little wider by 3 - 4mm would be ideal) than an iPad Mini 6, and who would have the pencil integrate like the Notes .
And also, Samsung should consider putting a screen like the Oppo N2 Flip's exterior screen next to the rear photo sensors.
But I know very well that they will do none of that, on the other hand, I am convinced that another manufacturer will do it and I even think that it will be Apple when they go into the folding market.
I politely disagree the fact I can close the front screen use it one handed and open it in tablet mode and still use it one handed is amazing.
No need for tablet at all with fold 4.
I have a Fold 4 and two tablets. I like to spread the load and not have to charge any one device too often. If I used my Fold 4 100% of the time I would be charging it twice a day.
I have Fold4, but still have ipad pro 12.9, 11.5, mini, air. Lenovo tab pro 13, 11.5. Huawei 10.9, 7.... Fold4 for outside use, tablets for home. But lately does not touch the tablets much....😅
@@樹爸爸-b4l I hope you do work on those devices.
Better by iphone and ipad mini 6 more practical than fragile fokd 4 😂😂
My iPad Mini 6 overheats and freezes in hot humid weather, has a poor display and wasteful font scaling, with many apps not optimized for the format. So I don’t agree that Apple has better apps for the Mini. I also have the Flip 4 but may go with the Fold next yea and trade in the Mini.