Why such failure at 2024 UK and French elections?
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One has to wonder if there are no political solutions left in what is now an existential crisis.
I don't think there is. Most voters live in their own bubble. When their bubble bursts, which surely it will, it will be too late for the ballot box. Thank goodness I have no offspring.
We haven't gone down far enough for people to challenge their beliefs and programming.
@@aesopstortoise Good point, but we cannot be too far away from that - just a handful of years?
Its only a matter of time before the Islamists feel bold enough to make their move for power. This generation of Islamists have already shown themselves to be impatient and overeager compared to their predecessors. Once that happens we shall have our only great opportunity to push back and reclaim Europe.
Really good analysis.
What I'd say about what happened in France with National Rally was they got nearly 40% of the vote but were blocked by an alliance of Capitalism/ Socialism and Islam.
Good to have you back on youtube.
One of the best analysis' I have heard yet. Subscribed!
I think your analysis is spot on as usual Gavin. If I was a nationalist politician I would say something like, any money saved by repatriating foreigners would be spent on additional welfare of the the natives only. Like you though I think the welfare state is a corrupting force.
Thank you.
Gavin, Gen public are rigid in their thinking: "safe pair of hands"; "Wasted vote".
Therefore, two party choice.
I only voted Reform as they were the only closest party with a national agenda That fielded a candidate in North East London.
As a general point, a true nationalist narrative puts the emphasis back on people to work for their country. Welfare has the opposite pull towards idleness.
Welfare is another situation where the urge not to discriminate and to 'be nice' takes guts to shirk. It's funny how the working classes have often been quite keen to turn on their own when it comes to benefits fraud. But people are unwilling often to look at their own situations critically. Be nice to foreigners, be nice to ourselves. Let the foreigners do the nasty jobs because we're afraid to do them ourselves. Don't hire British because you'll have to get into an argument with a lazy British worker and it's easier to hire a foreigner.
We can't look people in the eye anymore and say what we think about them, because that'd be an unpleasant experience and the BBC and the rest of the Liberal media want us to be nice all the time.
I watched Farage's interview with Nick Robinson on the BBC and that was the essential gist of it - aren't you horrible for suggesting these (milky) policies? Aren't you horrid? That was his only argument. Don't be horrid. FFS. What do they think built this country - people being nice all the time? Well actually don't ask that question, they probably think it was built by immigrants and stolen from African people. The great civilizations of Africa that they're so eager to pay homage to.
I wonder if the reason proper history isn't taught in schools anymore is because if people actually knew what we came from, they'd look at the current state of our country and wonder what the hell happened. If we teach them fake history instead, about how it was all foreign and socialist and gay, then we'll create a client class of milky Liberals who'll nod their heads vigorously the next time a BBC presenter tries to accuse the closest thing we've got to a nationalist politician of being unpleasant.
The only thing your excellent video doesn't really go into is demographics. I'd like to see how the young voted. I might be biased (ever so slightly) but my impression is that young English men in particular came out for Reform. It's not the party we need but it's a start.
Good analysis Gavin. I had an over and back argument with someone about reform and NR recently, essentially i was saying that as time goes on these parties will move more and more centrist. They are not the answer but they could be a step. Reform didn't get vote (no one did), because of 3 things:
1. Wishy washy no solution solutions. Such as the ridiculous "net zero" immigration policy.
2. Bending down to pressure from the likes of Hope not hate. Removing candidates that are saying reasonable things.
3. Taking the silver from nowhere people such as this Zia Yusef, who now appears to have bought himself a seat and a voice at the table. Just who is he?
Things such as this meant they couldnt get my vote.
We are stuck Gavin, the things we must do, we cannot talk about to campaign on, becuase of the "allergic" reaction. Therefore, change by voting is a waste of time.
Zia Yusaf: muslim by religion; multi- millionaire from selling his events company ,'volicity black( I recall).
Q. Can Farage be trusted with the heritage and future of this country?
@@t.gilligan9661 would appear not 🤣
Hi Gavin, its great to see you posting videos again. Been following your work for some time now. We could really use your assistance and advice in Ireland, as we have mosques popping up all over the country with many more now at planning stage. Our politicians seem blissfully oblivious to the danger, and we have no expert in Ireland such as yourself who is either aware of the threat or is educated enough on the subject matter to defend us. Very troubling times.
We need to remember Harold Macmillan's famous retort to a journalist that the greatest problem his government faced was "events, dear boy, events." It is events that will shape the future,eg, the collapse of the welfare state as a result of national insolvency combined with the ethnic challenge from the immigrant descended population.
I like your work Gavin, but I think this is a bad take. Left wing economic policies and right wing social policies are shown time and and time again in polling to be the most popular. The problem is people vote tribally - they support "their" party in the way they support a football team.
I have to agree also, there are very few people that actually look into what our elected politicians are about. I try hard with my wife for instance but she just doesn't engage with it.
I try to tell her these are the people that take her money, look after her care in the health service, provide education to the kids, none of it cuts through.
Of course 'left wing economic policies' are popular in the age of the Big State. These policies deliver services which are used most by those who pay the least towards them. The Big State system is bankrupt. Just because these 'free stuff' policies are popular today, does this mean we should continue with them willy nilly knowing that eventually the whole kit and caboodle will come down under the weight of a mountain of debt?
Totaly correct when it comes to the subconscious fear of having our rights removed if we do the same to immigrants, if you compound that fear with an in built sense of tolerance, you end up with the situation we have..
I'm not on board with his point about losing welfare if we take them from immigrants, or increasing them because of immigrants. I can see a sort of logic to it..sort of. But I don't think people think this deeply about the issue. I haven't seen any indication that the point is being made to people that because of migration our "welfare" is better. They surely would make this point because lord knows the ones they use are truly debunked.
@thewoodlander9868
Is this not why you have an Inside/Outside strategy?
The "Reform canvasser" who said we should defend the beaches was not there to help Reform, he was an actor who specialised in working class characters. He was using his acting voice in the recordings, not his normal one.
Yes I'm surprised that Gavin didn't make that point during the talk, even briefly. It shows much about what the MSM are about.
Gavin how would one contact you about perhaps giving a talk at a small meeting?
His website
We are stuck in a mono-party paradigm and first past the past is certainly helping to prevent meaningful change. The other issue is the lack of funding for alternative parties. Obviously, a party like Reform does not go far enough but represented the best realistic choice. They got nearly 15% of the vote but a diabolical 4 seats.
Now think how many seats a determined, block voting, highly motivated and pressure inducing group such as the islamists would get in a PR system. It's an awful situation but PR would not create an answer to an already bad system.
Farage: to trust Farage or not trust Farage for the heritage, character and future of this country?
On a positive note ingerland lost the foootie.
Support England. Had Toney played would have won. Ivan Toney is a Brentford legend
@@palacehaunter5442 are you from West London?
Anne Marie Waters of For Britain is a sensible political thinker.
Sadly she gets little traction.
Gavin. Your thoughts on Direct Democracy as set out in One Vote Away, Neil Petrie.
U.K. even failed to see Reform is establishment too. It’s demoralising
Spot on
@@hectorshouse7348 They are not part of the establishment.
@@shaunpatrick8345Yet !
@@bigCyril they will never be let in.
It will be interesting to see whether rumoured plans to means-test the state pension focuses minds on what the extent of welfare should be, and just how corrupt the system is to take NI payments from you for 40 years when you may not subsequently qualify for the state pension "benefit".
My comments aren’t being published. Anyone else getting this?
I actually posted 3 comments. I just checked. Only one remains. Maybe Gavin is deleting them? I hope not. Perhaps he could clarify?
It'll be the system.
I posted a comment and it got deleted. Then I posted an innocent comment and then edited it to what I wanted it to be. Only for it get deleted a minute later.
@@fishtherapy100 Its not Gavin, he wouldn't have the time to manually check every comment for controversial content, It is the UA-cam algorithm which looks for certain words and phrases and automatically removes those comments.
Gavin, can you repost your donation link so people can help support you work.
I'd also love to see how we could legally draft a corporate entity that could buy land for white Christians in the UK in a similar fashion to what they have done with Orania in South Africa. We need to collectivise and hunker down for what's coming.
Most people on benefits don't vote. And those who are conscious of being dependent on the welfare state either see immigrants as a threat or as a solution (working in the NHS & paying pensions etc). Personally I think the most important issue is the social context and taboos which shape the public opinions of the managerial and chattering classes. In those circles holding a traditional or ethnically conscious opinion basically leads to social death. And this is before you get to all the actual filter mechanisms that HR departments and hiring committees can bring to bare on suspect natives. Seems to me the best way we can spend our time is to create a kind of parallel community of values in which we openly break liberal taboos (for example equating racial solidarity with familial love). And by finding ways to network and support each other. The current system is not sustainable but there is no immediate political solution. We should act as the Muslims do. That means community organisations and consciousness raising at every level of society. From educating our young to local and national politics
We've become feminised and have been convinced it's our imperative to be 'nice'
I prefer to think in terms of Globalists vs Humanity, rather than Left vs Right.
@Gavin Boby
I don't quite agree with your line of argument that an uncompromising nationalist view inherently scares away the native British public.
I do think tone & framing matter though.
I would say that the overwhelming majority of native Britons in the UK are unaware of the provable existential demographic & cultural peril the native nations & tribes are in within their own homeland.
I think that if Farage had run a clear educational campaign on hard facts about the recent history & imanent future of the country's native peoples, (using only official sources & reasonable extrapolations), repeating the one line that 'the native peoples of the UK are entitled to demographic security & respect for their heritage in their homeland' & cushioning this with whatever other politic words & phrases he felt were needed so long as they never contradicted that core message that he would have got more voters turn out for Reform & taken more from the other parties & mainstreamed the existential nature of the immigration question.
On the showing for Steve Laws, the obvious problem was the splitting of the patriotic vote at least 3 ways where he was standing, not least by the much better publicised Reform & having a patriotic alliance electoral pact would be a tide to raise all patriotic boats & allow each currently separate faction to come together & concentrate the vote for each of them in different local areas (building a good local ground game like the LibDems do) & through working together build good rather than ill will (& a cooperative network for community generally) & rationalise whose offering works best where to maximise patriotic gains at all levels.
Turkey's don't vote for Xmas
I partly disagree. The electoral system and demographics are key reasons for the failure. FPTP forces binary decision making and motivates the electorate to vote against the candidate they most dislike. Reform faced a squeeze under FPTP as the anti Labour vote coalesced under Tory because of the “super majority" BS. Tories also have the pensioner vote in their pocket thanks to their triple lock pension policy, resulting in a comparatively high Tory turnout. Lastly, many people see Reform as the anti immigration party - not a potential government. That certainly hurt them and caps support below 20%.
RN got screwed in the second round when opposition parties tactically withdrew from seats. This used to happen to the Communist party of France who would win the first round only to get beaten with tactical withdrawals from seats in the second.
It's not just what you say, but who is saying the message too. Presentation just as important.