Honda NC750X DCT Gearbox Long Term Review - Complete Guide
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Honda NC750X DCT Gearbox Long Term Review
During the last months, you have asked me many questions regarding the NC750X DCT Gearbox and I have thought to place all your questions together in a complete DCT video guide, so you can be able to understand how the Honda NC750X DCT Gearbox it is working in real life riding. How functional it really is? How easy or not it is to use it? How reliable is it?
Also I have added some unspoken Tips & Tricks for your, hopefully they will be usefull for you !
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However, if you don't know what a Dual Clutch Transmission (DCT) is on a motorcycle and what it does, you could always look up the official description from Honda of what a DCT does. As the world's biggest motorcycle manufacturer and a great exponent of the technology, we describe a DCT as a "computerised electro-hydraulic control system to switch between the gears of a conventional six-speed transmission. It is equipped with two clutch packs… one for odd-numbered gears - 1, 3 and 5 - and one for even-numbered gears - 2, 4 and 6."
That's what a DCT is, but what it does probably needs a little more explaining, and we're happy to oblige: "Before actual gear shifting operation begins, the system automatically prepares itself for the transfer of drive power between gears by starting up the rotation of the gear to be changed to. Its two independently actuated clutches then smoothly transfer rotation speed from one gear to the next without zeroing out the drive force transmitted to the rear wheel."
What is the origin of DCT?
Before my time at Honda, there were other automatic transmissions such as the ‘Hondamatic’ gearbox in the 1970s which relied on a torque converter, and the Human Friendly Transmission on the DN01.
We also introduced the ‘Adaptive Clutch Capability Control’ which uses the electronic control of the DCT system to ‘slip’ the clutch a little when the throttle position is changed initially from a fully closed or fully opened position. That really helped smooth out the bike behaviour.
The other things is that it is both easy and direct. ‘Easy’ meaning no need to use a clutch in slow traffic, no chance of stalling, no bashing helmets with a pillion. ‘Direct’ being the speed of the gear change, the ability to use the triggers, and, as I mentioned, to concentrate purely on your riding.
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Honda NC750X DCT Gearbox Long Term Review
During the last months, you have asked me many questions regarding the NC750X DCT Gearbox and I have thought to place all your questions together in a complete DCT video guide, so you can be able to understand how the Honda NC750X DCT Gearbox it is working in real life riding. How functional it really is? How easy or not it is to use it? How reliable is it?
Also I have added some unspoken Tips & Tricks for your, hopefully they will be usefull for you !
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However, if you don't know what a Dual Clutch Transmission (DCT) is on a motorcycle and what it does, you could always look up the official description from Honda of what a DCT does. As the world's biggest motorcycle manufacturer and a great exponent of the technology, we describe a DCT as a "computerised electro-hydraulic control system to switch between the gears of a conventional six-speed transmission. It is equipped with two clutch packs… one for odd-numbered gears - 1, 3 and 5 - and one for even-numbered gears - 2, 4 and 6."
That's what a DCT is, but what it does probably needs a little more explaining, and we're happy to oblige: "Before actual gear shifting operation begins, the system automatically prepares itself for the transfer of drive power between gears by starting up the rotation of the gear to be changed to. Its two independently actuated clutches then smoothly transfer rotation speed from one gear to the next without zeroing out the drive force transmitted to the rear wheel."
What is the origin of DCT?
Before my time at Honda, there were other automatic transmissions such as the ‘Hondamatic’ gearbox in the 1970s which relied on a torque converter, and the Human Friendly Transmission on the DN01.
We also introduced the ‘Adaptive Clutch Capability Control’ which uses the electronic control of the DCT system to ‘slip’ the clutch a little when the throttle position is changed initially from a fully closed or fully opened position. That really helped smooth out the bike behaviour.
The other things is that it is both easy and direct. ‘Easy’ meaning no need to use a clutch in slow traffic, no chance of stalling, no bashing helmets with a pillion. ‘Direct’ being the speed of the gear change, the ability to use the triggers, and, as I mentioned, to concentrate purely on your riding.
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A very useful run-through of how dct works on the NC bikes. The NC750X is often described as a commuter bike. This is nonsense. I have ridden hundreds of other bikes and I can tell you that with the NC750 I can keep up with any bike on the road DRIVING AT LEGAL SPEEDS. On longer runs, thanks to the low fuel consumption, you don’t have to fill up so frequently so you get there faster than a high-powered bike! Also, as this rider says, you don’t need to be changing gears manually to experience serious biking and it’s great fun exploring the possibilities of the dct drive. The NC750 is a great bike for both beginners and serious riders. I’ve been riding since 1963 and this is the best bike I have ever had. And I have had a lot of bikes.
I'm on my 6th goldwing, had an 2018 DCT, now a 2021 DCT. Absolutely love it. Someday I would like to have the NC750X DCT.
DCT is my go to. I rode manual and maybe I will ride again in the future a manual box but the DCT is the thing for me. I love the NC model aswell, I love the looks of Africa Twin so maybe that will be my future bike, I'm still extremely pleased by my NC so I'm not in a rush to change it. There are people out there who know how to shift and drive, I know for myself that I'm no Rossi, some might even argue that if you are not shifting, it not the same experience, it can't be called motorcycling, I think motorcycling is about comunity, fun, riding and bringing people together.
Very useful assessment, thank you! I have a 2019 750X DCT on which I have covered about 5000km only. I had a manual NC700X from 2013 to 2019. I have no wish to revert to a manual transmission. On twisty roads I use Sport 1 and sometimes change down a gear before negotiating a hazard. I had not learned how to change between Sport 1,2 and 3 so the demonstration in your video was useful. Reviews by people who've covered many thousands of kilometres on a particular model of motorcycle are more useful than quick reflections by a person whose just taken a dealer's demonstrator out for a test ride.
Hi there, I have been riding for fifty years and I have a DCT 750X 2017 which I bought four weeks ago for the first time and it is my bike of choice when I go out, and I have others to choose from. I rate it very highly and would not hesitate to recommend it. It must be tried for at least two hours for the first time when you take it for a test ride to appreciate how easy and good it is. I wish I had chosen DCT when I had my Crosstourer 6 years ago as I think I would still have it now. Great review of DCT from a users point of view. 👍
I have a Goldwing Tour with DCT. I would never go back to manual shifting. It makes riding way more enjoyable, at least for me.
I have the same bike, it rides smooth and great. I find myself reaching for the clutch when I'm slowing down...oh wait there isn't one lol. I Really enjoy riding NC750XD
I love my DCT NC750X, and would never go back to manual gears, I like how fast it downshifts in sport mode when performing a rapid overtake to get the revs higher before upshifting again
I find my gearbox very useful when I want to switch riding modes. It's easy and very smooth and the difference is so slight that it's not obvious.
Bought a 2018 manual version and absolutely love it.
(Still wish I had bought a DCT though; It is a brilliant match for this engine)
Once you rode a DCT ... it's hard to go back ... Thanks for another excellent episode !
That's for sure, thanks for the comment!
I live in the USA. We’re still waiting for the 2021 model to arrive in dealerships! I’m very excited about getting the
updates that come with the 2021 model! Ride by wire, LED lights all around, new frame, lower weight, and higher redline.
I'd go 4 the 2020 model instead. Costs less and has more riding options ( better ground clearance ). The 2021 is a 1/2 baked bike. No CC, shorter shocks' travel, LEDs are also on the 2020, except turn bulbs. I easily installed LED turn bulbs, that are much brighter than on the 2021.... Yes - on 2021 u get 3 more 🐎🐎🐎 + some small insignificants... Remember - the new bike is 3cm lower = only 4 pretty good roads.
I just got the 2020 dct and I love it! I am 6'1'' and its perfect
I had a Honda CTX 2014 DCT. I liked it.
This is the most comprehensive and detailed real life review of this bike that I have seen yet!! Well done 👍Do you find it has enough grunt & braking for 2up touring?
Hi there, thanks for the comment and feedback! Braking it's ok, with new pads and new brake fluid. For better braking I can recommend changing the brake rubber hoses with metal racing ones, it will improve the brakes.
Also the DCT is offered for the Rebel 1100.
Yes totally right I've missed that thanks
Xadv, forward 750 also
Excelenta prezentare, pe intelesul oricui si care ma pune pe ganduri legat de un motor cu DCT 😁😁👍
Mulțumesc, apreciez
Great explanation on the UA-cam channel 👏
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Love the Honda DCT 750x.
Indeed, the DCT is fantastic however, I chose the manual version because it is 10 kg lighter and cost quite a bit less. Also, and this may seem trivial, the lever and pedal on the DCT are located on the right side so, for the sake of symmetry, I would prefer that the rear brake be relocated with a lever on the left handle bar.
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I'm very happy with my dct nc750x.
Also taking the advantage of the turtle at turn and a zig Zags road.
Perfect video
Thanks for the review, I've been wanting to get one from last year.
You are welcome, why you've waited so long to have it?
@@IdealBike well its gonna my last bike to buy, so gotta make sure it's worth it 😁
Nice review focussing on this bikes main and unique feature.
I agree totally with your concussion especially for your predicting for the future, same happens with cars many years ago
BMW look out the new version will come out from Honda to go head to head with the 850!
I’d love a 850gs with a form of DCT
Great video. Thank you.
Can you tell us, does the engine blip on the down shifts?
That's depending on the revs, usually downshifting from 6th gear down to 3rd it's quite silently done. From 3rd down to the 1st gear it can make a usual gearshifting sound
@@IdealBike Ah, ok. Thanks.
Great explanation.Thank You
Thank you, appreciate it!
Great review thanks 👍
I'am fresh (2 months only) 2017 DCT owner I really like it.
No any issue so far. I did DCT reset few days after I purchased motorcycle.
Did you notice any fuel economy difference between S1 and S2 inside city.
No difference
Buna !
Felicitări pentru explicații !
In 2024 îmi voi schimba motocicleta ( așa sper ) și tot mă uit la acest model … cu sau fără cutie automata !
Am văzut 250000 km rulați de un tip , asta înseamnă mă este un fel de “ bulletproof “ ..,
Cum este ca și comoditate la drum lung cu pasager ?
Dacă ar fi sa compari cu Yamaha Tracer 09 GT plus ? ( care este mai ușoară dar turația mai mare ) …
Asta îmi vine acum in cap !
Multe Salutari și succes in tot ceea ce faci !
Drumuri uscate !
Te salut, cu pasager este ok dar contează și ce pasager ai și ce pregătire fizica are. Suspensiile sunt mai tari ai stabilitate dar simți gropile din asfalt. Trebuie neapărat să testezi înainte.
@@IdealBike Merci frumos de raspuns. Am testat NC 750, fara pasager si manuala. E ok ( nu incape casca mea in spatiul din fata ). Se simte bine centrul de greutate jos, destul tork prin oras, nu am iesit cu ea in afara orasului prea mult pentru ca am avut o ora la dispozitie. Imi place revul mic ( ca la Harley ) dar cred ca daca avea vreo 15 cai in plus era ideala. Mai caut pana in 2024 dar pana acum ramane cap de lista. Te salut din UK !
Toate cele bune 👍
I mostly use the S-1 mode. Fast jumping to the top gear in D, simply pisses me off + the clutch is less worn out, with less gear changes. Yes, I use 1% more fuel ...😃
I was hoping for 2021 to be propperly upgraded, but Honda decided to screw it up 😖, so no new NC750X for me ( at least this year ).
Very useful video. Thanks. I have 2014 DCT and love it after 35K miles. However it has started to stick in gear in Auto and I am not sure what is causing it. I have replaced the battery again with new YUASA from Honda - on their advice. But the issue has returned. When I get it to start again, I am able to use manual with no issues at all. Thoughts anybody? I heard that you could change or clean the shift motor on the right-hand side. Has anybody experienced the same?
You can make a DCT reset could be done by the dealer or you can find tutorials online
@@IdealBike thanks mate. Yes I tried that by following YT video and it’s now with the dealer who are doing their own version of DCT reset. So we’ll see…I am thinking that cleaning the shift motor might be a good thing to do…cheers!
Same thing happened with my 2015 @12k miles this year. Had to get the shift motor replaced. Unfortunately, it’s a very expensive part from Honda so I hope it was just bad luck that mine failed. Works great now though.
@reevesnmortimer they've updated since 2016 and 2018 and the bikes starting from this years are very reliable. Mine was 2019 and no issues after 64,000 km
Hello! Very nice! What about the maintanance of the DCT?
Maintenance consists in changing the oil same as the regular oil each 12.000 km
@@IdealBike Every 12.000 km on the gear oil too?
There is no separate gear oil. Only a separate filter for the transmission.
I like your crash bars, can you provide a link please?
Givi t1111
can you shift to S while driving in D ?
Very helpful!
Looking forward to your impressions after the video. Greetings!
Can u shift to first gear from neutral while in high rev?
No
@@IdealBike you are able to start driving up a steep hill with low rev then?
Never tried
I have never heard anyone say the DCT is for beginners or that you’re not a real motorcyclist if you have one?
I heard a few, but this doesnt matter if you like the DCT.
can you send a link to your phone holder on the bike ?
I've bought it from Auchan Hypermarket, don't know the name but it's for keeping attached to the hand and I've adapt it to the middle of the handlebar, it works just fine :
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Does the 2021 have 3 sport modes?
No, it has riding modes and between them an unique sport mode. You can check out the full 40 minutes review from the channel to make a complete idea about the bike. Greetings!
Does this model have traction control?
Sure, it has 2 stages and you can also turn it off
@@IdealBike Nice, I'm thinking about getting one. Which year of manufacture is yours?
It's 2019, dct version, feel free to explore my reviews and videos, I'm sure you'll find something helpful. Greetings!
@@IdealBike thanks will do !
do not forget to reset the DST every 3 ~4000km You can find the procedure on youtube
I've asked the dealer for the DCT reset and they've told me that at my model it cannot be 😁
The DCT is great however, there is still the matter of that dirty chain.
Interesant. Fain ca ai explicat ca pentru prosti, cautam asa ceva. Nu sunt in cautare de NC(cred) dar ma gândesc sa trec de la varadero la 1200x crosstourer. Era interesant sa vad frana de motor in acțiune pe Lepșa sau cheia. In mod special pe coborâre si intrare in acul de par. Când dai drumu la accelerație simți tot ca o frână de motor? Am un prieten cu aprilia mana si a facut afirmația asta. Nu ca ar conta enorm atat timp cat poti face downshift manual....
Ca idee, in 2 incarcat,poti mentine lejer 140-160 fara sa simți ca omori motorul? Cum trage pe serpentine incarcat cu pasager? Nu sunt zmeu pe șosele dar unde se poate imi place sa ma joc si merg exclusiv cu pasager. Consumul este atragator(mai ales la 30k km făcuți anual), imi este teamă doar de lipsa de "zvac".
Salut, mersi de comentariu! Frâna de motor este extraordinara la acest model DCT, instant reacționează. Am un videoclip de pe Râșnov (sound only) acolo îți faci o mică idee. În 2 poți merge 120-130 Km/h lejer eu mai mult nu am încercat cu nevastă-mea 😁. Oricum te poți ține cu ea pe curbe cu aproape orice motoretă dacă ai skill, este extrem de manevrabilă. Am urcat cu pasager pe Transbucegi și Cota 1400...nu am avut probleme deloc.
The 2021 model is much better in the first gears...
Salut. Nu ai vorbit deloc de Traction Control si sa explici cum ajuta pe diverse nivele. Doar in prezentarea bordului. Asfalt uscat.
Salutare, de obicei TC il lasam la maxim, mai ales pe uscat foarte rar intra mai ales cand cauciucurile sunt noi. Il lasam la minim doar pe forestier. Ajuta pe Modul Sport eventual pe curbe, pentru un mers mai sportiv, eu cam mergeam si merg destul de incet nu am simtit nevoia sa il modific. Toate cele bune !
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Too complicated, guessing plenty of specialty tools replace clutches etc... probably ok if your the type that pays others to work on your bike.
When the bike it's reliable as this one... No worries
The redline is so low, 6000 rpm, I hardley think the clutch will be working much.
@@johnroe3915 not even taking into account the two clutches so they only work part time.
Unless you’re doing something seriously different to everyone else modern clutches seem to last forever these days.