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We DOWNSIZED from a 43' BIG RIG to a 19' TRAVEL TRAILER! How & why did we do that?! + FULL TOUR
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
- After more than 20 years of full-time RVing in Big Rig diesel pushers, we just bought a little 19' camper. We'll tell you why we made the switch, how we were able to downsize so dramatically, and how we landed on our new 2024 Outdoors RV Creekside 19MKS Titanium Series camper. We'll also take you on a full tour, inside and out, and share some of the cool mods we're doing and gear we've installed.
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Thanks to @outdoorsrvmfg for making such an awesome rig, @thompsonrvinc for the fantastic purchase and delivery experience, and @mytsolar for the amazing off-grid electric upgrades, including @battlebornbatteries @richsolar and @VictronEnergyBV for the lithium batteries, solar panels and electronics suite, respectively. @truetopper4418 also installed the coolest updated take on slide toppers we've ever seen!
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Can you add a link that describes the pricing structure for this trailer... I love the "Floor Plan, Floor Plan, Floor Plan" too
We weren't able to find a place online with the pricing breakdown, but here is some info directly from our window sticker. Hope this gives you an idea. Of course we recommend contacting a dealer directly to see what kind of actual purchase pricing is available. Looks like the numbers in front of the options are their internal code numbers for each one.
2024 CREEKSIDE 19MKS
002 TITANIUM SERIES
018 MTN. STORAGE SYSTEM (2" REC. HITCH & TOY-LOK)
102 12V HEAT PAD (FRESH WATER TANK)
715 OFF-GRID BATTERY RACK (CAPACITY: 4 BATTERIES)
716 DELUXE POWER VENT FANS (BED & BATH)
Unit Base Price: $58,569.00
Options Total: $13,811.00
Freight: $226.00
Tags : $55.00
Total MSRP: $72, 661.00
@@RVgeeks it sure is a beauty! I am so glad it survived its first 🌪️ twister and your Truck is blessed too !!!! You both deserve all the Best !
This 19’ RV is surprisingly large inside! So happy for you guys, and thanks for stopping by to show us your new home on wheels!! ❤ Can’t wait to do some rugged exploration with you in the future 😎
Thanks so much for the hospitality and awesome filming location! It was so great to see you both. Can’t wait to see how well our little camper can keep up with your monster truck! 😅
What a great unit. I love the upgrades you made. The wall bed is so well thought out. I love that the bedding can be left on the bed so it is ready to climb into when you are ready for bed.
Glad you like it!
Love the new rig! Excited to see what is coming up in the future for your adventures
Thanks so much!
@@RVgeeks you are so welcome. Love the rig you picked. I bet there’s a lot of great adventures ahead
Great to see you guys back on YT….Looking forward to following your next phase in RVing. Congrats on your new rig.
Thanks so much, Fred!
I really love the Outdoors RV trailers! They do such a fantastic job with build quality and I’ve been super impressed with them. my dad and stepmother have an older version. That’s very similar in size to the one you guys just got, but it doesn’t have that Murphy bed, such a game changer! If we were ever to go with anything other than our airstream, outdoors, RV would be at the top of the list. We do a lot of Boondocking and BLM camping and you just can’t beat their four season build, off-road capability and capacity for water and sewer.
Awesome! There are SO many happy ORV owners out there, including us. We know we made a great choice.
Same company who builds nash and arctic fox.. my nash is 9 years old, it's been absolutely perfect , I'm still impressed by the quality years later
@@JackWorkz Great to hear, Jack!
I have lived in my Outdoors 24RLS full time for over a year. I'm on my way to Alaska with it right now. I love it!
That is a big change congrats RVGeeks, enjoy !
We really like our '23 ORV 26KVS. We've had numerous RV's over the last 45 years. This one is built very well & made for Boon Docking. Yes it is heavier than most, but it is a lot more solid. And yes they cost more; but we feel well worth it. As a general rule these are not 1/2t towable. I speak from experience. A 3/4 t or better is far superior tow vehicle.
Great to hear from yet another happy fellow ORV owner! 😃
This camper looks awesome! We downsized to a Grand Design 17mke and didn’t realize the counter tops were fake. ☹️ Plus we can’t use our bed with the slide in, and I would love being able to have a table and the recliners. Great choice!
WOW, the trailer is amazing, what a great floor plan so much space inside.
Thanks! We love it! 😃
It’s about freaking time! So glad you guys shared your process. We really enjoyed it.
Yes! Thank you!
@@RVgeeks Makes us almost wish we went with the 19MKS instead of our Grand Design 22MLE 😉. Ok that's not true: make sure you have all those locks on the rig if we're ever near you guys 😂
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Glad to see you back and love the new rig! Making me give second thoughts to a Tab400. Can’t wait to see more about the modifications!👍🏽
Congratulations and thank you for sharing your amazing new rig!
We had never heard of OutDoors RV, the quality and features are really smart!
Thanks so much!
I own a 20 ft. Rockwood Geo Pro 19fbs that is 20’ long with 1 slideout and love it. Her name is ShortStack. She is perfect for me and my 2 Schnauzers. I have had no issues after 2 years of use.
When I first read that you were downsizing to a 19’ travel trailer my thought was “why in the world would you do that?” But you explained it well in the video.
Your point about the durable build of interior fixtures, compared to typical 19 footers, resonated with me. We are not off-roaders, but might consider downsizing from our 42’ 5th wheel.
We, too, are moving from fulltiming to part time, but we’ll still be on the road for 6- 48:37 months of the year, so we’ll need to think hard about what we would give up, notably, storage.
One of the unspoken benefits of going smaller is being forced to get rid of stuff! We had violated our 1-year rule (if you don't use something for a year, pitch it) so many times, we went to a 2-year rule, then 3 years, then gave up! LOL It really felt freeing to bring only what we actually need, and going part-time made it so much easier.
Besides floor plan, construction quality & builders detail are equal in importance. Finding those in one package is the trick. When our time comes to downsize, thanks for leading the way. Watching the video feels like being with old friends again!
Absolutely! Thanks so much!
We are on day 3 of a 6 week maiden voyage in our new-to-us 2023 19MKS Mountain. We had planned to buy a new 19MKS Titanium, then decided we’d better go look at one before driving from SW Missouri to Pendleton, OR to buy one just based on UA-cam videos. The used rig was so nice and saved us so much, we decided to get it. We LOVE it, but I already foresee that within a few years we’ll be trekking to Thompson RV for an upgrade. We’re coming from a horse camping lifestyle where 60% of the rig is for equines and we squeeze into the remainder. The ORV, with a slide out and theater seats feels like such a luxurious upgrade. Can’t wait for all your follow up videos. Love your channel!
Thank you so much for your lovely comment! So great to hear from yet ANOTHER happy ORV owner! And a 19MKS even! Have a wonderful time on your trip, and maybe we'll cross paths in Pendleton sometime!
We are owners of a 2023 ORV 19MKS and really love it. We have been on 7 trips so far and have another 8 trips planned for this summer. I really like your solar upgrade. Very jealous.
Awesome! That solar is indeed fun. 🤩
The murphy bed/dinette really is a brilliant feature and I love the new name… It’s perfectly fitting!
Thanks Lisa! Can’t wait to show it to you in person. It’s much more comfortable! 😅
Met ya'll once in nashville years ago, always great to see ya'll creating new content. Hope the new rig is treating ya'll well. Looking forward to seeing more on the new RV as we are looking for another RV, going back to travel trailer to help with hauling bikes, etc. Looking for a solid rig and have been looking at ORV as well.
Hi Nick! We remember that even in Nashville! Thanks for the nice comment. Loving our new rig, and hope you enjoy the research and planning process as much as we did... and of course whatever new RV you decide to get.
Awesome trailer ! Have a Lance trailer but this would be on the list if replacement ever came up .. Great floor plan as you said . Enjoy and safe travels !
What an efficient layout. That kitchen counter was a real surprise. Now you're ready to go anywhere. 👍
Thanks Brian! There’s so much we love about this amazing little rig. Can’t wait to show it to you in person. Been way too long.
Equally if not more important is your decision making process for choosing your tow vehicle. Consider a detailed video similar to this explaining how you picked your tow vehicle. The tow vehicle costs may be equal or greater than the trailer.
Hi Peter! We have a video just like you’re describing in the works.
I’ve been following you guys for a few years now and have utilized your recommendations to great effect. I’m glad to see you back on my UA-cam feed. We have a 35’ gas Class A and your decision really has me thinking. I was amazed at the interior height. I’m 6’7” and to see a TT with nearly 7’ ceilings is spectacular. Keep the videos coming and we’ll see how long it takes me to convince my better half to downsize.
Hi Thomas! Thanks so much for letting us know we've been helpful. Always great to hear. We'll do our best to help convince your wife that smaller is better in RVs... except maybe where height is concerned. 😉 We're several inches shorter than you are, but it really does feel open in here with that radius roof.
Thanks so much. Nice to see you back on the air! Sounds like a great trailer. We are possibly due to change so will look into it. 🇨🇦
Thanks so much. Great to be back!
Congrats Guys. Great floor plan and most important, a quality company and rig. Look forward to the detailed videos to come.
Thanks so much!
The tardis! Love it. We have our own name for our 24RLS Anniversary: The Beauty! It’s attached to the Beast…yes, a 1 ton diesel…because those « amazing ORV » are heavy!!! But they are the sturdiest we could find…and Corinne from out west was right from the start…we shopped until we dropped..and the we went all in in 2020 - right in the heart of the pandemic…bought it out west, traveled from Qc city to Kelowna, and back…with canned soup…and are really happy with it! Great choice! Built like a rock, sustained Alaska and now Newfoundland….more than 50,000km so far with nothing…Great decision! Good on ORV, they are still doing it the right way! Remi & Sylvain, Qc city followers and happy owners.
So great to hear!!
Nice rig. We down sized from a 32 foot Komfort to a 19.5 Imperial Outdoors X 195. Our new trailer is extremes off road capable including articulating hitch and independent suspension. We camp four seasons and do not chase the sun. I am looking forward to future tours. Oh, yes I am located in the Cascades west of Bend, Oregon.
Thanks! Your rig sounds great!
Love the name of the RV. Couldn't be more perfect.
Great video and great choice. We have had 2 ORV's and love our current 280KVS.
Thanks David! Great to hear!
Congratulations on your apartment and your new trailer. You look well rested and apartment living is agreeing with you both.
Thank you so much!
From one geek to another congratulations on the new Rv! That is a nice upgrade overall. I’ve been subscribed for years. Out of love I’d recommend reading the New Testament from the Bible. I’d love to see both of you in heaven one day. God bless
Why is it people like you always use the... out of love quote? They love each other and they're happy with their life. Your GOD does not discriminate unlike yourself 🙂
Great tour! We have owned an Outdoors RV trailer and now an Arctic Fox 5th wheel. They are both made in LaGrande and I'm pretty sure they are now under the same ownership. We won't own another RV. They are stout! They may be behind the times with interiors, but the four seasons package and the fact that they make their trailer frames makes them the highest quality we've seen. BTW, we also owned a Forest River trailer. No comparison! I look forward to seeing your solar videos.
Awesome! Great to hear! Thanks so much.
Good choice, seems perfect for you guys !
Thanks so much Glenn! We think so too! 😃
Congratulations - what a fun rig!
Thanks! 👍
Love the new rig. Perfect for all your new adventures.
Thanks!! We’re so happy with it!
Thanks for sharing the new season in your RV life.
Thanks so much! More to come!
Another GREAT video guys. I was really surprised to hear about you giving up your Class A , especially after all of the work, care and $$$ you have put into it over the years. Looking forward to viewing more videos about your future adventures.
Every land yacht needs a name!
I am now looking for this TT, hopefully i can afford it, lol. New subscriber.❤😊
Great video guys! Awesome setup! Very helpful with how our rving is changing.
@@chrispierce8525 Thanks Chris! Always great to hear we’ve been helpful. 😊
Good to see you back. I looked at that unit and almost switched. The deal breaker for me was no W/D as I am still FT for now. It's still tops of the list if/when I do switch to PT.
We’re with you on the washer/dryer, Joe! An absolute MUST for us for FT!
Love the new rig. Congrats! Looking forward to upcoming videos.
Thanks so much! More to come!
Professional presentation. Best floor plan I have ever seen !
Wow, thanks!
We are on our second rv in three years! I thing our 24 ft rv is the perfect size for our lifestyle! Miles and I love your videos!!!
Thanks so much guys!
We are ORV owners of a Glacier Peak F26RKS Titanium which we love but after watching your great presentation of this rig I am thinking about switching over to this model so I can recoup my truck bed for carrying motorcycle / ATV.
@@usmcshepherdE9 This is the first pickup truck either one of us has ever owned. If we had realized how handy that bed is, we probably would’ve gotten one sooner.!😁
This is PERFECT for how I live in an off grid area of Arizona. I don't say camp, because I enjoy all of the luxuries of a home while away. I HATE Dinettes Yours is perfect. Your solar system is spectacular, but I'm sure it was expensive. Well worth it for all of its benefits. You started with a great RV and made it far more functional. HOME RUN Best I've ever seen!
Thanks so much!!
I have looked very closely at Outdoors RV to go full-time when I retire. Unfortunately I want a unit with a washer/dryer and larger storage. I am leaning towards Alliance RV 370FB
We have a 22FQS for 1 year now! We had Tom and Ely do our solar too: 2 gamechangers and 1000 watt solar! We have been able to boondocks at 2 weeks. We love our ORV! We also got the dc to dc charger. Great to see a different floor plan!
Great to hear from another happy ORV owner! We just love our rig, and love how much better Tom and Ely made it for us!
You guys are the ONLY ones who see the wisdom of a smaller RV. The idea of downsizing is often thought-about, but rarely fulfilled. I believe there is a right-size for an RV, it's just that most people start off much smaller than what they ultimately need, so upsizing is the norm.
Amazing layout! Thanks for the tour of your new travel trailer. Best of luck with it.
Thanks so much!
Congratulations to you both on your new TT. What a wonderful floor plan, amenities and equipment. As you say they are well built.
Thanks so much!
Glad you pointed out the ladder. I love that on our 22 FQS. I have Flag Pole Buddy with the starlink adapter attached to it. Many other things you mentioned are reasons we went with ORV. Also, the complaints I do see about ORV are all things that Thompson RV checked and took care off if necessary. Shows me how important the dealer is as well as the factory.
Great to hear from yet another happy ORV owner! Apparently there are a LOT of us! 😍
This is a beautiful looking setup. Grateful we get to be part of it! Looking forward to following along in your travels! Go RVgeeks!! 💪
Thanks so much! And thanks for protecting our new camper from theft. We'll be shooting a short video all about our awesome PacLocks this coming week, especially our incredible coupler lock. Stay tuned!
@@RVgeeks Woohoo! Can't wait!
Welcome to the ORV family! We full time in our 2022 280KVS but use to own a 23KTS. We definitely miss being able to get into tight places.
@@PNWtravelers Thanks! Great to be here!
Glad you back,lovely rig and couple.Safe journeys.
Thank you! You too!
Great trailer review, I subscribed and look forward to the upcoming videos of your rig.
Ok I need more. How you are cabinets set up etc? My husband and I have a 19MKS and after watching this video, I now know my recliners actually recline. I just thought you could only prop up you feet but they do actually recline. Thanks! Keep sharing. 😂. One thing we do is put a cargo net up between the dinette chairs so that we can stow things there when we travel. Also put a corner towel rack in the bath to hang towels.
Love the cargo net idea! We’re gonna have to steal that! 😉 We just live our 19MKS, and it’s always great to hear from fellow ORV owners. 👍
welcome to the travel trailer family guys.. :)
Love our 2016 22RB Creekside. Outdoors RV makes an awesome unit. We are off-road, off-grid a lot. Roughing it smoothly.
I am Captain Janeway, towing the Voyager.
Love your handle, Captain! Beam us up! 😁 Great hearing from yet another happy ORV owner! ❤️
Love love love it. Thank you.
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Wow! I love it. What a great layout. Excellent choice.
Thanks so much!
Congrats on your new TT. It is gorgeous. I love the floorplan...especially the kitchen & counterspace! I too am in Michigan..... Lower Peninsula. :) Safe travels!
Thank you so much!!
Awesome job. Thanks for another fantastic video. Especially enjoyed the humor. Several good belly laughs.
Thanks so much! So glad we made you laugh. 😆
I've watched this video, and others on this trailer several times now. We've got a 2017 Grand Design Solitude 384GK that we bought new, and lived in it FT for about 3 years. Now that we've got our new house built, we've been considering getting a truck camper, however we're now leaning towards this exact same model that you have. Like you, we're not FTing any more, and are looking for something we can take anywhere, and thought a truck camper was the way to go. We've already got a 2017 Ford F350 DRW Diesel truck, so the truck camper seemed like a good fit. Well, we're now thinking this trailer would be an even better fit, and maybe even downsizing on the truck. Love, love, love all the upgrades you've done to the trailer. Especially like the slide topper. We got our Solitude with slide toppers and I ended up taking them off, I hated the popping in the wind, and I always got on top of the rig and brushed them off before leafing because they would hold water on the largest slider. A total waste of money. The new topper you have is so cool, and we love how it gets the water off as well as the debris. My wife and I are considering a trip to OR to the dealership you got yours at, maybe make it a flight and mini vacation on the NW. Thanks for all you do, I've been subscribed for several years now and have used you as a resource for much of the improvements we made to our 5th wheel.
Thanks so much, Pete! We can't recommend Outdoors RV, the 19MKS floorplan, True Topper, Thompson RV, and MYT Solar enough. Thompson gets buyers flying or driving in from all over North America for a reason! We considered a truck camper as well, but so happy went this way. The one thing we'd say about truck size (until our upcoming post and video about weights comes out) is that we custom ordered a pretty well maxed out 1/2 ton truck (Duramax Diesel, upgraded GVWR, Max trailering package, heavy-duty alternator etc). It's got a 12,900 lb towing capacity and a 1,600-lb payload. We went with a 1,500 because we have other reasons related to part-timing for wanting a truck that is absolutely no larger than needed. We did our math carefully, and still ended up pretty close to maximum payload and GVWR on the trailer (the solar/lithium system we installed weighs about 500 lbs alone). We tow really well, and are safe, comfortable and happy with our choice. That said, we will be recommending at least a 2,500 for anyone who doesn't want to have to worry about payload. As we've experienced, a 1,500 can work, but it can't be just ANY 1,500. Had we not maxed ours out in every possibly way, it wouldn't be up to the job. Bottom line, if you're thinking about downsizing your truck to try to go with a 1,500, proceed VERY carefully. If you're ready for a new truck anyway, we'd suggest a 2,500 would be a great choice for most people pulling this trailer.
@@RVgeeks Thank you so much for the detailed reply!! I'm with you on the 2,500 series truck. We live on a small 16 acre farm, and I've got a 14,000 lb dump trailer that we use each spring to get mulch. With my F350 it's NBD, with a 1500 series truck not such a good idea. After remembering we had the dump trailer, and we also rent a skid steer now and again (putting it in the dump trailer), a 2500 series truck is certainly the way to go. BTW, I contacted Thompson RV, really nice people, and I also contacted on Outdoors RV dealership in PA (about 5 hrs from where we live in IN). I was told by the PA dealer that because of your coverage of the 19MKS they are sold out of that model, so was Thompson RV, and won't have anymore until the plant builds more. We're not in a rush, and probably won't be buying one until we get our Solitude and truck sold (we'll sell them ourselves), which gives us time to shop around. My wife and I may even take a trip to OR to see the sites, visit the Outdoors RV plant and get a plant tour, and stop by Thompsons RV. We did a lot of plant tours here in IN before deciding to get the Grand Design Solitude. We FD'd in a Travel Supreme 5th wheel from 2006-2008, and the Solitude from in 2018, 2020-2021, like you we've got a pretty good idea on what we're looking for. I also gutted and renovated a 1972 Airstream Ambassador this past summer with my son-in-law and daughter. They FD in it from Oct-Mar, and are back in it today out in Bend OR. Sorry this was so long, but I really like what you two have done with your channel and how you tried to help others with their RVing experiences. Thanks again for all you've done!!
@@petenelson8136 Thanks so much for the kind words, Pete. It sounds like you know plenty about RVing and will make a great choice. Sorry we’ve created a run on the 19MKS! 😁 It really is an amazing little floor plan.
I bought my 24' nash 9 years ago, its the perfect size for all situations , i don't full time in it, but i did live in it for almost 1 year, i couldn't see going any bigger or smaller
What a great camper.. thanks for the wonderful and informative tour... Enjoy your new adventures... :)
Thank you! Will do!
Fantastic floor plan...beautiful rig!!
Glad you like it!
Hi guys! I've been waiting for the big reveal and when I saw the title to this video, I thought it was a joke of some kind but here is it! This video is so timely and interesting to my wife and I. I'm 62 and have owned a camper/rv of every type since I was 18 and started with tent and then a slide-in truck camper. Eventually we upgraded to a gas class a, 41' DP and our current RV which is a 2007 Holiday Rambler Navigator 45' w/tag,525 Cummins, 4 slides and more gadgets and switches than the space shuttle. I't luxurious and huge. Our children our all grown and gone so it's just the two of us. I am really debating if we should sell our rig as it is sooooo big, especially for just two people (and two English Bulldogs). I find it very stressful and scary to downsize, only because we are so used to all of the luxury items. I thought about a smaller class a, say 30' or a class b or a towable as we also own a GMC Denali Yukon XL, which we never drive. We are going to use the Navigator thiis summer season and then decide if want to sell it. Who knows....but I find it so terrifying to "change" and downsize. This was an awesome video and thanks for sharing. I always love your videos. Take care and have fun with the new toy!!
Hi Terry! Thanks so much for the awesome comment. We were in the same boat.... VERY used to, and happy with, our big rig, which probably accounts for why we kept it for so long. We'd suggest that the single biggest thing you might want to think about as you decide is HOW you use your rig. That was what spurred us to go small, because we wanted to go EVERYWHERE... even little places and rugged places, and everywhere else in between. The problem was likely that the size of our rig was preventing us from RVing in the locations we wanted to go, and smaller was the answer, enabled by going part-time. Now, that may not be the case for you, as you may prefer to RV differently that we do (snowbird to Florida, Texas, or Desert SW RV resorts, for example, which a big rig is great for). We weren't all that enamored with the luxury aspects of our rig so much (yes it had a dishwasher, but we don't care about hand washing dishes). Although we do miss the on-board washer & dryer... but we console ourselves when we get two weeks worth of laundry done in 90 minutes at a laundromat! LOL You might consider renting the type of RV you're considering on a platform like RV Share or Outdoorsy to take a test trip without committing. Have fun thinking about the possibilities. We sure did. Safe travels!
Glad to see you guys back on UA-cam ❤️❤️🎉🎉 enjoy the new RV!
Thank you! Great to be back!
I was beside one of those at River Sands in Ehrengerg AZ this past winter and had never heard of the brand so I looked them up. It would certainly be on my short list if I ever switched to a trailer.
Surprisingly I really like your new travel trailer. Very impressive. I love how the bathroom is tucked away from the rest of the RV. The only change I think the manufacturer needs to make if there isn’t one already is to add an outlet back in your coffee nook. That would free up the outlet near the sink for other appliances. I personally don’t like seeing cords unnecessarily. So having my coffee pot cord visible all the time would drive me crazy. That being said, I would just plug in my coffee pot on an as needed basis…Problem Solved…LOL… I have looked at many travel trailers but had given up since none of them checked enough of my boxes to be on the consideration list. Therefore I have been for using on 5th wheels. Well you have peaked my interest and I will be putting Outdoors RV on my list. Thanks for an amazing and honest walkthrough. Safe Travels.
Thanks so much! We absolutely agree with you about the outlet on the back wall because we don’t like seeing cords either. 😁
Great to see you back, can't wait for hacks and mods.
Thanks so much, Todd! Stay tuned!
It is 24.1 feet tip to tip not 19ft. We are buying one. I’m so excited!
@@chrismurrell747 24’1” with a 19’ body. Our 43’ motorhome was just about all usable space (no tongue of course).
Yes, excellent brand choice and dealer! They’re both great. I have a 2021 Timber Ridge 24RKS Titanium which I also purchased at Thompson RV. The trailer has only had a few very minor items that needed attention. Drove across the country from Boston, MA to get it when I went full time. In my case I upsized from a non slide truck camper. Your model is very interesting to me, especially the bathroom and Murphy bed/dinette in a slightly smaller package than mine.
These days I’m back to part time status where I spend the summer in Grand Haven, MI. If you’re coming this way from the UP you’re welcome to boondock in my driveway. As you’re this far east does that mean you’re further east, maybe attending the Hershey RV show, or going to the East Coast ORVers rally in VA right after?
So great to hear from another happy ORV owner, Brett! Thanks so much for the offer, but we’re already on the east side of the lower peninsula boondocking in my cousin’s driveway and then continuing east. Unfortunately we have other obligations creating a tight time schedule, so won’t be at any shows or rallies, probably until this winter in the desert SW.
Congratulations
I’m glad I didn’t miss this video.
Thank you, Debbie!
Awesome guys! Eagerly awaiting a video about your towing experience with the half ton vehicle. Did you add the load balance / stability control hitch due to poor trailering or simply right off the bat as a preventive measure?
Thanks! We'll be a little while getting that weight/towing post and video ready (it's a complicated safety topic that we want to treat VERY carefully). In the meantime, as far as towing with a 1,500 - we custom ordered a pretty well maxed out 1/2 ton truck (Duramax Diesel, upgraded GVWR, Max trailering package, heavy-duty alternator etc). It's got a 12,900 lb towing capacity and a 1,600-lb payload. We went with a 1,500 because we have other reasons related to part-timing for wanting a truck that is absolutely no larger than needed. We did our math carefully, and still ended up pretty close to maximum payload and GVWR on the trailer (the solar/lithium system we installed weighs about 500 lbs alone). We tow really well, and are safe, comfortable and happy with our choice. That said, we will be recommending at least a 2,500 for anyone who doesn't want to have to worry about payload. As we've experienced, a 1,500 can work, but it can't be just ANY 1,500. Had we not maxed ours out in every possibly way, it wouldn't be up to the job. We'd suggest a 2,500 would be a great choice for most people pulling this trailer. As far as the weight distribution / sway control hitch, we added that before ever towing even one mile. It was needed because the truck's payload would be exceeded if we didn't shift some of the tongue weight to the rear of the trailer, which the hitch does beautifully. GMC also says that above a certain weight trailer, they recommend it, and the 19MKS easily exceeds that. Hope this helps!
Interesting video. With being off grid, I've made attempts to be so myself since I saw both chad leadbetter and Nomadic fanatic (the latter I've stopped watching after about a year or 2) either talking about or using solar themselves back in may or june of 2015. The 1st several attempts were luke warm (if you want to call it that) attempts. I did get a jackery 240 watt unit around January of 2021, and tried a tiny bit with that and gave up until about memorial day of 2023 (for those who don't know, that's a U.S. holiday that takes place on the last monday of may, that's the summary of it) where I decided to put some more effort into the ide. And, with what i did have and provided with some additional items, I managed to get it to work a marginally better. And, just within the last 2 months or so, i decided to get a ecoflow delta 1300 unit, and between the 2 units, i presumably have 1 1/2 kw of power. And, i have 3 30 watt panels (2 of which i now use), 2 110 watt panels, and, that has had some marginal sense of success. With the Murphy bed, i remember when we (my sisters, mother and grandmother, and i) went down to Florida back in about September of 2009, we stayed in a place that had one of them (i forget what the name of the place we stayed at for obvious reasons, but, it had little cabin/mobile esk things there). With the alternator charger for your rig, i know Ray from love your rv (now love your rv and boat) has a similar set up for charging too when he got his truck. With the toy leash thing, eh, I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but, locks keep honest people honest right? With the back up lights on the trailer, you don't see that too often, which is great considering they're LEDs too. With the dinette area, in theory, you could keep the table up or up it up and have it as a little talk/sit area too. For the tv, yeah, i mainly do streaming too, next to no watching tv time anymore. With the sink, yeah, at my dad's place, he has a 2 bay sink, I'd often end up using one of the 2 to actually wash dishes in. 41:13 is that almost 40 Fahrenheit? Yikes.😳
Very nice. Get a continuum weight distribution hitch. You will love the ease of hook up and driving experience
Got an EAZ-Lift TR3 and loving it so far. Really balanced things well, and the rig drives like a dream. Our choice of a 1500 truck really worked out!
Fabulous choice. Our 40' Newmar Canyon Star has a very robust solar/battery package installed and we loved to take it boondocking, but well like your old Mountain Aire its a wee bit big to fit in many places. When I first heard you were going to a trailer I was quite surprised, but I can see why you like this rig and it really does come down to Floor plan, floor plan and floor plan, with build quality, durability and the ability to option and add options such as the solar and batteries to it. The key seems to be that Murphy/ wall bed that saves so much space. I guess questions include how you are dealing with the radical decrease in storage. Where are things like outdoor tables and chairs going now (After all being outdoors is a big part of the magic of RVing)? Ability to put bikes on the back of the trailer or in the bed of the truck? Looking forward to your adventures and to seeing the company market an RV Geeks version integrating your special upgrades!
Thanks so much! We always used to say "great to hear from a fellow Newmar owner" but guess we can't exactly do that any more. LOL But it is a great brand, and we sure did love our MADP for a long time. The real trick for us when it comes to storage really is mostly about going part-time. We just need so much less stuff. As far as our bikes, we didn't ride then enough to warrant dealing with them, so not a big deal leaving them behind. And while we do have folding chairs on board, we're doing without a table for the moment until we find out how much we miss having one (we didn't break our old one out that much, so maybe not an issue?) If we do decide to bring a table, or other gear along that we don't have on board yet, the bed of the truck is an awesome place to fill with stuff! Safe travels, and we'll look forward to seeing you down the road... maybe in an RVgeeks Series ORV! 😁
Nice ! This will be fun 👍
Hello guys! Hope you’re enjoying the new rig. I’m anxiously awaiting the video explaining your tow vehicle. I know it takes time and you want to get things right. I’m still in the process of building up a 1500 that has maximum capabilities as well, wondering if you have 18” tires or 20” tires on your truck? Not trying to rush you guys lol, but I know it will be a popular video.
@@derykcampbell8508 Thanks so much! Yes indeed we are loving our new rig. Our truck is equipped with 20 inch tires. We are indeed planning a detailed video and post about setting up our rig to tow, including all of the important weights and considerations that need to be taken into account. That said, we wanted a 1500 because now that we’re part time and parking our truck in the underground parking garage in our apartment building, which is VERY tight. When our post and video come out, we will be detailing how carefully we had to equip the truck, how close we came to its limits, and we will be advising anyone who wants to tow a trailer like this to go with a 2500. That said, our rig tows safely and comfortably within limits, but there really isn’t any weight to spare. Keep in mind that we ordered the most capable 1500 we could find, with the Duramax diesel, Max Trailering package, increased GVWR, 3.73 rear axle, and upgraded alternator. All that said, if we wanted to bring our heavy E-bikes, or a couple of other people along with us, we would be over some weight limits. If you’re planning to tow a 19MKS, you will either have to plan extremely carefully to get exactly the right truck, and/or go very light on your gear.
Thx for the reply! And yes i am most certainly looking for the most capable 1500 3.0 diesel, whatever that configuration may be.
@@derykcampbell8508 The dirty little secret is that while manufacturers love to tout “Towing Capacity!” it’s virtually impossible to determine the more important number: payload. The ONLY place that’s 100% knowable is the door sill plate on each specific truck. But how do you see that when you’re custom ordering and it’s not even built yet?! We ordered our 2024 GMC Sierra 1500 SLT with the options we mentioned above and got a 1,600 lb payload. Sounds like a lot, but since you have to include the trailer’s tongue weight down onto the hitch ball in that 1,600 lbs, a weight distribution hitch was a MUST for us to help shift weight back to the trailer’s rear axle and off the ball. We made it under the wire on all weights, but not by as much as we’d hoped. Since you want 10-15% of the trailer’s weight on the ball for safe balance, an 8,000 lb trailer (not far off our trailer’s GVWR) means putting 800 - 1,200 lbs on the ball. You can do the math and see that 1,600 lbs isn’t all that generous. And we checked the box on the GMC order form for the optional 7,300 lb GVWR to get the max payload available. In our upcoming post and video, we’ll be diving into more detail. But since you’re looking now, we just want you to be very careful if you’re planning to tow something like 8,000 lbs with a 1500.
Thx so much for the info. Really appreciate it!
I know you were able to observe the PDI process at Thompson RV and were impressed with their thoroughness. Did you decide to hire an NRVIA Inspector prior to purchase or were you sufficiently satisfied with Thompson's process and ORV's warranty coverage to go without a 3rd party inspection?
Someone mentioned in the comments that there could be a potential crease in the mattress, and you said it was not noticeable. I'm confused because I thought the entire mattress is always fully deployed whether stowed or extended. Can you please clarify.
We were so excited after seeing this post that we are touring the factory next week and plan to order the same model for year-end delivery. So thank you for your research and we'll look forward to more closely following your adventures!
@@janisnau9971 Hi Janis! We’re so excited for you ordering the same brand and floorplan that we have so come to love so much. As far as the mattress goes, it’s a memory foam type mattress, and folds 90 degrees about 1/4 of the way down from the head when it’s vertical up against the wall. But we absolutely cannot detect any fold, crease, or problem of any kind when we lie on it. It’s absolutely like a regular mattress that doesn’t fold at all, and we’re very comfortable on it. We think that is simply a non-issue with this mattress and bed set up. As far as inspections, both Outdoors RV and Thompson RV’s reputations were so good, and we heard so many positive things, that we never even considered having an inspection done. We did run into an inspector there while we were taking delivery that was looking at someone else’s rig prior to pick up, but we had zero problems with ours, and feel like it would’ve been a waste of money for us to have paid an inspector. That said, if you are coming a long distance, and want to make sure you have the smoothest delivery possible, an investment in an inspection is certainly reasonable to consider. But if you were going to do without one, the combination of Outdoors RV and Thompson (if that’s where you’re buying it) are pretty hard to beat.
@@RVgeeks Thank you for your thoughts and quick reply!!
Yes, Thompson will be our dealer too and we're full-timers so we'll be in the area and can spend time nearby to ensure all is operating correctly before departure. Thank you for sharing your experience, it has really helped us make our decision.
The bed size was a concession for us, but it sounds like we will be very comfortable with it.
A couple of comments; as a mountain Aire owner myself being used as a winter ski lodge, I missed seeing how that rig addresses gray and black sewer ports. As you know, the mountain Aire has a heated water bay. Every trailer I’ve seen has sewer ports hanging underneath. No way that works in extended sub freezing temperatures. Secondly, that squeegee type slide topper would destroy the slide when the slide top has an inch of ice on it as is common in snow country. A 3k inverter won’t run an AC unit without overheating your victron system. I have twice what you have installed in my mountain Aire and can’t run a single AC system unit more than a few hours before a full recharge is needed.
Hey Dave. Thanks for the input. Couple of things… while our trailer is very capable of making trips to sub-freezing weather, there’s no trailer we’d consider using as an extended sub-freezing ski lodge that stays in those conditions all or most of the winter. Same thing with the True Topper. We’ve seen demonstrations of it clearing off some ice with no problem, but an inch? Everything has its limits, so not looking to use it in arctic conditions for any length of time. And not only have we already run our 15k BTU AC unit off the battery bank for hours on end without the system getting too hot, we’ve seen, and personally know others who do it all the time. Might want to check your system in case there’s something causing overheating. We’ve calculated the approximate run time with no solar coming in to about 7 hours. Of course we wouldn’t run it all the way down, but the nice part is that the hottest situations are usually the sunniest!
We have four kids and use a little 22 foot bunk house. Our neighbors have two kids and a 37 foot monster of a trailer. We prefer state parks with narrow lanes and small wooded/private sites. Our neighbors are limited to kitschy RV parks with zero privacy. They take their rig no more than 40 minutes away a few times a year. We go 7-8 times a year and can go much further with our 3000lb rig. Although it's small the floorplan works even with all of us in the rig. We've toyed with moving up to 25-27 feet but many of our favorite sites and campgrounds wouldn't work.
Sounds like you have a great rig! We have friends with three boys who full-time in a 26’ travel trailer, so we know that good-sized families can fit in smaller rigs too!
Very nice rig. One question: can you use the murphy bed with the slide in - if necessary for an overnight travel stop - say in a walmart parking lot?
We sure can, and we’ve already done it a few times!
Hi Guys, Always interested in an experienced view and seems you have been in the RV world long enough to know. Could you break down the cost of your experience in the down sizing and the additional cost associated with you new trailer. I too am coming from a 45' Entegra Aspire, which I loved but now I would like to be more nimble in my movement around this country.
Thanks
Vann
Hi Vann. We're seeing how much lower the costs of buying and owning a travel trailer are compared to a DP that we wish we'd done this years ago. For us it was easily 1/10th the price of purchase, and now facing far lower real $ depreciation when we eventually sell. Maintenance is less of course, too, since no engine, transmission or generator in the new RV. The biggest expense was the new-to-us cost of an apartment, due to the switch from FT to PT.
Glad to see you guys back on UA-cam. What is the R-value on the roof, walls, and floor? I know the refrigerator is 12V, but what about the A/C?
Thanks very much! Great to be back. We’re not aware if Outdoors RV publishes the R values. We’ll probably be stopping at the factory in about a month, and will try to remember to inquire about that.
Oh…. 120V air conditioning.
Okay, I have followed you two since the days of the Hugging couple, then Chris and Cherrie, and I have always considered you two to be the best in RV knowledge, especially when it comes to full-time RVing.
I have seen you two at RV shows but have yet to speak with you in person, and I value your knowledge, which secured my decision to purchase my 2022 Northwoods 22G for my full-time travels. My Northwoods is sister or brother to the Outdoors RV. The only downside with my current setup is that I do not have the 100-gallon fresh water tanks Outdoor RV supplies for their Backcountry series.
You made two excellent choices with the RV manufacturer and the dealer. Later this summer, I will visit the Thompsons facility and consider trading in my Foxy for a Backcountry Titanium series to continue my full-time off-grid lifestyle and I look forward to bumping into you two one day.
Thanks so much! Maybe we'll see you at Thompson RV! Or in the Desert SW this winter! Safe travels.
Love Thompson RV!
New subscriber -great vid guys - with all those locks and bolts and chains, Have you considered a hand gun yet ? LOL
What a great set up.
Question for you. Have you pulled the trailer with full or close to full tanks and if so how did your 1/2 ton GM do as far as cargo capacity and towing?
Look forward to more videos of your set up.
Thanks for the great question. We have indeed towed the trailer with full fresh water, full propane, and fully loaded with all our gear. While we are within limits, and the rig tows really really well, we had to order a very specifically optioned 1500 to make it possible. You can’t tow a trailer this heavy with any old 1500. We do plan a video all about how the weights worked out, but it may be a little while before we get that finished. In the meantime, we would say this… If you want to have a very easy time towing, a trailer just like this without worrying about capacities, get a well equipped 2500 and you won’t come anywhere near as close to limits as we are and won’t have to worry about it. That said, we are very happy with our entire rig. We went with a 1500 for other reasons, but if not for the fact that we park our pick up truck in an extremely tight parking space in the basement garage of an apartment building when we’re not on the road, we would have gone for 2500 and given ourselves a little more breathing room.
Thank you for the response. Can't wait for more videos. @@RVgeeks
Great video and nice rig. Would love to know the hitch weight with solar, batteries, leveling system. I would not be surprised if you are in the 1000-1200 lbs range. With 1600 payload you will be very close.
Thanks! We’ve done all our weights and will be making a THOROUGH video about the topic. Stay tuned! But you’re correct… we’re close, but within spec on ALL weights, including GCWR, GVWR on both the truck and trailer, max axle weights, and within the 10-15% of trailer weight on the tongue. We did our calculations carefully, and all is good, but we don’t have all that much to spare! We knew that going in due to our need for as small a truck as we could get away with, and it all worked out great. The trailer tows like a dream!
@5:50 sitting on the edge like that is wild
Couldn't the tv antenna just been moved a little since there's still space between the two rows of solar panels
Maybe, but we never used the one we used to have anyway, so we just jettisoned it.
Nice Camper, so far. I have Three downsides: No Truma hot water system for endless H2O, No induction cooktop (never use the oven), and I like slide windows for better ventilation. Also, don't know if the upholstery is standard "fake leather" (plethra). Let's see how long before they start to peel. Did you happen to look at the Brinkley towables???
Hi James! We did indeed look at Brinkley, which makes a very nice rig, but in the end, they’re bigger than we were looking to go. We did indeed love our Truma in the Mountain Aire, but it becomes less important when we spend almost all oour time boondocking, since endless showers can’t be taken anyway. And we do like the better ventilation from sliding windows, but we’ve found ourselves in heavy rain several times already and love how we don’t have to worry about leaving the windows open when we used to have to run around closing them. Obviously we can’t report on ageing leather yet since we’re only two months in, but stay tuned. So far, they seem like higher quality than many of the peeling furniture we’ve seen. We know that induction is popular, but we’ve always had gas cooktops, even in our new apartment, and do like it. Luckily, if we ever change our minds, we can see about switching to an induction cooktop.
James, sorry, have to ask, do you even own an RV?
@@FrankBullitt390 I've owned three new 5th wheel RVs, one used motorhome, and now a new Phaeton
Very nice, guys. I like that your trailer is well made. A solid, well-made RV manufacturing company is hard to find. I wonder if they used stainless steel screws, especially exterior ? What kind of roof did they sell y'all ? I'm very concerned about putting extra holes into the roof. I'd probably go with a few portable solar panels. We can park in the shade and put the panels in the sun. I purchased back in 2015, a brand new 2015 Keystone Outback Terrain 210trs. It's got the best layout I could find at the time. It's about the length of yours, with the rear king bed slide-out. I really like that cuz we never lose usage of our dinette or sofa, and we always have a king bed available. I don't like the fold away main bed that sacrifices something. It looks like your hot water furnace is placed on the less preferable side. Both my regular RV style refrigerator and my hot water furnace are on the drivers side. The side without the entrance door. The side no one uses and without the awning. It's also got bunks. However, this Keystone I got isn't as well made as yours is and probably not as off-road worthy. A few years ago, I discovered the 2017 Highland Ridge Open Range LT221RQB. Now that's what I'm really interested in. The unfortunate thing is that they only made that in 2017. This has THREE slide-outs!! Those slide-outs really make a huge difference, and with the rear slide-out turns a 20' foot trailer into a 25' foot trailer. If this Highland Ridge with three slide-outs can be or is built for off-road usage, I'm getting it. I'm calling Highland Ridge very soon as I did a few years ago when they told me it's no longer in production. I hear BattleBorn is overpriced, and there are other brand batteries that are much less expensive and as good or better. Thank you for your efforts to help others.
Thanks so much for the comments and for sharing!
Question for you: what did you upgrade your mattress to? We have a Murphy bed which desperately needs a new mattress. Between a comforter, blankets and sheets it could only be about 8 inches thick. We dislike memory foam. Just curious what you have. Thanks in advance.
We didn't actually change the mattress. The Titanium Series includes an upgraded mattress made by Heartland and we're really comfortable on it. We've always had (and loved) very firm traditional pocketed coil innerspring mattresses (don't like memory foam, either), but the one that came with our Outdoors RV is really nice, even though we're pretty sure it's some type of foam (we don't think it's the Tempur-Pedic type, but it's something similar as it bends when the bed gets closed). But despite the fact that we like very firm mattresses, we're really comfortable on it. You might be, too. Just not sure what specific model of Heartland it is (sorry, we're visiting family away from the RV, and can't check the label). It's supposedly a cooling gel type of material, which find we sleep well on.
Congrats on your new home from home! Hope you enjoy it! Shame these nice US rigs aren't available over here in the EU, someone needs to poke these manufacturers!
Thanks so much! To be fair, you have awesome rigs over there too! We wish US manufacturers would copy a lot of what European motorhome & caravan manufacturers do.