We bought a 2018 Rockwood Ultra Light. Found it to be a most reliable & easy to tow with a 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee. Our RV dealer, was completely satisfactory in our purchase & introduction to features & safely hitching-up.
I was wondering how you could tow an Ultralite but see you have a 6200-7200 tow capacity, which is impressive. I tow with an Audi Q5 so I went with a GeoPro.
Basically, all RV’s are just cracker boxes on wheels. Anyone who owns one needs to be a handyman. Basic repairs will be required throughout ownership. Plus, please learn how to maintain your roof, and learn how to winterize before it’s freezing outside.
unfortunately, in my opinion, after owning several travel trailers I think the best way to go for most trouble-free experience is with a fiberglass trailer. They are pricey they cost a lot but they will last you and your children. If you choose to go that route unfortunately most people don’t realize the work that has to be done as far as upkeep goes to your average RV
I've owned four RV campers. #1: Airstream (my current/last camper). #2: Jayco (solid w/minimal issues). #3: Coachman (solid, but the electrical is sketchy and prone to faults/spaghetti wiring). #4: Coleman (don't go near them... junk). Good luck out there...
you could make a video on the worst 10 thousand brands becasue 99 per cent of them are made worse than children play toys for a birthday party and then dispose
Our 2022 NuCamp T@B 400 has been a rolling nightmare. Brakes have come apart, parts routinely fall off, fans break, and the bathroom door hinges have had to be replaced twice. Dealer support is hit or miss., mostly miss and NuCamp support non existent. I will never buy another NuCamp product again.
@@colleenwilkin5705 Flagstaff/Rockwood are top quality! Forest River owns them but has nothing to do with their manufacturing. It angers me when people say Forest River is a horrible manufacturer when in fact they don't manufacture a thing, the companies/brands they OWN do, and some suck, others don't.
I have a 2019 Taylor Coach travel trailer built one at time here in Ontario, Canada. No assembly line bad quality here. This is our 2nd Taylor Coach. Excellent customer service before and after too. I can’t say enough about this family run business since 1967.
We bought a used 22 FT. 2019 used Heartland Sundance in early 2020 by a dealer in Surprise AZ. It had everything we wanted in a camper and checked all the boxes and was a pre-covid camper. I'm glad we bought it when we did and only had one issue and that was the toilet. It took us a while to figure it out but to make a long story short the camper came with a basic Dominic toilet, and we quickly noticed something was wrong. Because of the design it wouldn't flush away contents properly, so we bought a Heford toilet and what a difference that made. We are happy campers!
buy a grand design..from a reputable dealer (not camper world or the like). we've had our grand design 17mke for 3 years zero issues..And if you have an issue GD will stand behind their product and make it right..still won't be fun fixing repairs but one FR customer had a frame crack well snap at the hitch and wouldn't do Anything about it..blamed the frame maker..frame maker blamed FR consumer Never got any resolution and had to trash the trailer. Grand Design All the Way..
We have a 2007 Jayco Jay flight 30’ bunkhouse. We have not had any issues with it except over all the years some of the wall paper has wrinkled in a few areas. Probably due to temperature changes. Come spring I may loosen the trim and take a hair dryer to it and see about smoothing it out and tacking it back down. We have had a lot of good memories with our kids and grandkids …. Inside still looks close to new as I always did a deep clean at the end of the season. We just resealed the roof for maintenance protection for the first time. Never had any leaks or problems. Absolutely have loved our camper and hope to get many more years of making memories. I think when Covid hit everything went down in quality and the pride they used to take in building Rv’s or anything really. But the price of things sadly have sky rocketed. $$$$$$.
We own a coleman 17b 2024 , and love it , we had a Foretravel some years ago and swore when we got and RV we would go simple , this is so easy to maintain and deal with , it's comfortable and serves the purpose , all will have issues , but these are very simplistic , not alot of expense to deal with !
My Coleman 16fbs has great build quality. It actually just survived 100mph winds in Milton. The next morning, my right was dry as a bone. No water got in at all and the winds didn't affect it. My Coachman pop up I had before the Coleman was awful. From the dealership the front storage hatch leaked and rotted out.
I had a F orest River Wolf Pup that was a fantastic camper until it got destroyed in a storm. The only problem I had with it was the cheap Chinese 12 volt DC fridge. When it was new, it worked great, and I was amazed at it. But it failed after about 2 seasons, so I replaced it with a 110 volt AC fridge and had no problems. Really enjoyed it until it was destroyed.
I have a 2022 Gulfstream Amerilite 199RK. It had a roof leak when brand new, a failed battery (Interstate) at 8 months, and the cover of a marker light flew off. Otherwise it's been pretty flawless and all were easy repairs
You got the Heartland issues bang on. My 2022 Shadow cruiser has cracks and mouldings flying off because roof not attached properly The trailer was water saturated after my first month. Dealer in Ottawa ( Ottawa camping) laughed and said it’s not our fault, we didn’t build it. My insurance paid for another and we got a Surveyor Legend. Great trailer …. No issues Remember If you buy a trailer brand new, that sat a year or 2, that if could be rotten from water intrusion if dealer didn’t check seals each 3 months The manufacturer only guarantees roof at dealer for first 3 months. Its dealer responsibility to inspect and seal roof after 3 months
I have a 2020 Gulfstream vintage cruiser 19ERD. When I purchase this trailer I knew it was a low in model and was going to need some upgrades which I have done. Overall and very happy with the build quality. People have to remember that trailers are earthquakes going down the road and will need some TLC to maintain them.
I have a 2024 Gulfstream Amerilite 199 rk. Its really nice but poor quality and countless major issues including a roof leak, water pump leak, tub leak, kitchen sink leak, hot water heater not working. Its only a few months old....im over it 😡
Researched alot of used trailers before buying our used 2012 Jayco Skylark. Been using it for 2 years now and love it. No issues, still looks great, light, great floorplan. Research and dont fall for how pretty the new ones are. Quality after 2017 is a joke for the majority of the brands.
Buy a used one and save the depreciation - the warranties are only a year long and not worth their weight in snot anyway. Like said, if you're not handy bring your cheque book cause you're going to need it! Got an '07 KZ Outdoorsman, built like a tank but it still takes work to keep it going.
I have a 1994 Coleman Rio Grande popup trailer. Very bare bones when it comes to features (no furnace, no toilet, no fridge, hand pump faucet). I'm probably the 5th owner. I'm constantly fixing stuff on it, BUT it's 30 years old so that's expected. It also does the job it's designed to do: keep us off the ground and out of inclement weather. We've gone all over the west from the Valley of Fire, to the northern redwoods with it. Recently my wife and I have been looking at hard sides, and were impressed by the 17b. I have friends that own them and love them. With the 2025 models, I can fit in the shower, they have a proper furnace, and a tankless water heater. We're sold on getting one very soon.
We bought a 2023 Coachman Clipper built by Forest River, our first travel trailer. Our biggest complaint is the crummy industry standard door latch and the poor workmanship. We had an under sink leak caused by them not tightening the trap joint flange. Both easily fixed. I have renovated mobile homes built in the 70-80’s and the construction methods and quality are the same.
After 3 years our Forest River Salem has been good. We did have one water leak but I fixed that and the roof was cut when it was built in the factory. Instead of giving up our camper for probably 6 months while they replace the roof I just keep an eye on it. I’ve been in the house and Commercial building business over 40 years so I fix everything myself.
Yea that’s why I couldn’t buy new like you said you have to take a second mortgage out, my neighbor bought brand new twice and good brands he had to go back to the dealer so many times for a 100k plus camper that’s unacceptable in my eyes I just say buy as cheap as you can and if your handy enough just fix the little things here and there when they come up just got me a 2016 all I had to do was fix a bunch of screws and little parts that broke or were missing and walla just like new
Completely agree in unacceptable when spending big bucks. Can’t stress how much of an advantage people who are handy have when it comes to owning a rig!
The main problem is quality of workmanship. When the factory’s main goal is production volume, corners will be cut, and quality control will be left to the buyer. There are a few manufactures who produce a high quality RV. The best place to look is the factory floor. Are the workers well trained, well supervised, and take pride in their work?
Our Heartland has problems with Main Cabin lights and a bad seal between the better bathroom toilet and black tank, causing a soft bathroom floor and are not covered by any warranty. Just getting the floor partial repaired and toilet seal replaced cost us $1000.00. There are a few other issues, but I can understand as normal as I will repair them. An improvement would not use the long staples to hold up the structure of the bed. Would I recommend this brand is a partial yes.
We have a 2020 Keystone Outback 221UMD, and overall it has been very good for us. Yes it had a few things that were issues but all have been small. Biggest issue I have had was the Furrion fridge stopped working right before a 2 week trip. Bad circuit board. All manufacturers have issues! These units get best up going down the road. We have owned 2 Keystone RVs over the years. Both over all were good.
My wife and I are going to buy an off-grid travel travel and it's looking like we're going to buy a Rockwood Geo Pro made by Forest River. Not that they're perfect but they seem to have fewer complaints than other travel trailers. Fortunately I'm an electrician, shadetree mechanic, and quite a handyman so I know what I'm getting into and am fully prepared to have to do a lot of repairs on my own.
Look into Outdoors RV. After walking so many rvs you can tell the quality plus they build there own heavy duty frames and have full suspension systems on the wheels and axles. They are built to boondock and get into remote areas. 80-100 gallons of fresh water in all models.
We bought a used 2022 Tiffin Wayfarer RW in January. None of the drawer slides had been installed correctly so I had to remove all of them and re-install them properly. On our first trip the door larch failed and the door would not open. That was an expensive repair. At the same time the solenoid that charges the batteries when the truck's engine is running failed. A wall panel was cut 1/2 inch too long and the fasteners in the middle failed so the middle bulged out. I had to remove it trim off the excess 1.2 inch and reinstall. None of the drawers would remain closed - I had to install extra latches. The integrated backup/blind spot cameras have a "Known issue" where they stop working of the dash heats up from sunlight. The motor for the powered murphy bed failed (why even make a powered murphy bed?) and the RV tech said that the issue is that the motor is only rated for a dynamic load of 55 pounds. The bathroom door was hung improperly - I had to remove and reinstall it. On the last trip the door jammed in the frame. The RV tech said that the problem was that they used screws that were too short for the application when it was made. I got it back from the RV repair people on Monday. Taking a 3-day trip tomorrow. I'm just wondering what's going to break this time.
Currently own a Rockwood by Forest River. It’s been the best trailer I’ve had, three so far. Its build quality is so much better than the North Trail (multiple slide leaks, roof leaks in 3 months)I owned.
Another RV poster once said "driving your RV down the road is like exposing your house to an earthquake for a few hours every time you travel with it". Don't you think something is going to break if you do that?
Built by crack heads , unfortunately it doesn’t matter which brand or even what industry the quality of workmanship is complete garbage. No one takes pride in their work
I had a job for a while working on cranes. One customer made RVs. I was pretty shocked and intrigued how they do it. They have high turnover and pay little. Not to mention the fact there is a countdown clock and everyone is pressured to get their portion done. It just encourages them to miss mistakes or to intentionally overlook them.
I have a Scamp fiberglass trailer. It’s 8 years old and no problem. The company is family owned and they stand behind there trailer. And the trade in value is the best .If you make a best trailer list please had the scamp to it.
202417 b Coleman Dutchman I have to have the entire front wall where the seam is at replaced and I've had to have the door adjusted but from what I understand that's just wear and tear
Own a 2020 Winnebago for 4 yrs and had no issues with it. Overall it was a solid rv. Own an Alliance Rv now for 2 years and no issues. Just do monthly and yearly maintenance.
We just bought a 2024 keystone passport gt 2600FK. Where do I start? Barn door on bathroom was dragging floor, had to cut 3/8" off if it. Range vent cover flew off on ride home from dealer, electrical outlet went through wall when wife plugged in stick vacuum, turn signal wires were reversed, widow broke due to improper install, trim molding and cabinet door latches and drawer glides falling off. We paid 40k for a fixer upper
@@Thecampingloop luckily keystone is going to reimburse me for the window glass and a electric box cover, they replaced range vent cover, and for my trouble the dealer gave me a maxxair fan that was taken out of a new RV to add an AC unit. Going to a good local dealer matters. Much better and faster service than a certain super national dealer I bought my 2018 StarCraft from.
2022 Forrest River Wildwood 170SSX. I've had it for two years now. One bad slide motor a week after taking it home but (Knock on wood) no other issues.
You are not taking into consideration the volume vs number of complaints. It only makes sense that Forest River would have a high number of complaints--they make and sell considerably more units that almost every other manufacturer. Any analysis of this type should look at the ratio of complaints to unitls sold.
Keystone RV basically makes everything today. I was shocked when we were RV shopping and while overwhelmed with all the "name brands" I noticed that almost all of the big names says Keystone RV Muncie, Indiana on them somewhere inconspicuous lol. Btw I am highly insulted that Jayco TT is on the list lol. We had a 2024 Jayco JayFlight slx 174bh and liked it so much we upgraded to a 2025 Jayco JayFlight 284bhs. Super nice imo and the small one seemed pretty high quality too.
Got the 2025 Forest River NOBO 20.3 with beast mode suspension. FR actually seemed to listen to the reviews on the 2023/24 models from those who own them! All the small problems pointed out were recified - cabinets, pop-up power tower, added another solar panel (2x200). We upped to a 100wLithium, and it has kept the fridge cold, lights on, for days. Glad we got the "beast mode suspension" because of the over the road pot holes, etc, are what cause so much damage. Took it on a pretty sketchy road out in backwoods of Northern VA, and nothing inside moved - pretty impressive. It is akin to the same type of suspension found on tanks/Strykers, etc - platform/cabin is stable and doesn't absorb much if any shock. I am seeing many youtuber r/v videos in which people are getting the 4 wheel independent suspension installed to combat that - pretty expensive after-market. Get it initially. It is worth the extra money imho. The tires are high quality off-road and not ones on "axle-ed" models. So far, only issue is the lock on the main entry glass door. We tried to change it to a keyless entry, but the glass doesn't allow for it. We replaced the locks with new key ones after calling tech support. Make sure you operate the door with lock and key several times when picking it up from the dealer as some of the screws may be loose. By operate, I mean slam it shut...lol. Storage doors are no problem - just that one. You will have to purchase the Maxx Air vents for the roof fan (dealer had them and installed them) and a telescoping ladder as this model does not have the affixed ladder. GOD Bless
I bought a 2023 Winnebago Micro Minnie and have had nothing with problems with it. Everything that could leak has: sink, toilet, and outside shower! I had to replace the water pump this year bc it leaked. I would NOT RECOMMEND WINNEBAGO!
We’ve had our KZ Connect for 4 years now, with no problems. We go camping every 2 weeks. I believe the life of a camper depends on how someone takes care of it.
We have had 2 keystone passport trailers and have not had any of the the problems that you talked about but all of them have problems they are made fast and cheap so if your a handyman you can get by
We bought a new 2021 Coachman Apex 256RBSS built in 2020. Other than the fridge not working from the start, which was replaced under warranty in 2 weeks. Our camper has been okay. We are afraid to upgrade and get stuck with a something with tons of problems.
I have had 5 campers. I think I can say, in our case's,...Lippert and or Furrion have been mostly the guilty parties. And yes the quality has gone straight down hill from our first one in 2015.
I wouldn't give you crap for any of these trailers made in the last 3-4 years. We have owned a 1996 Jayco Eagle and a 2013 Jayco Eagle (both bought used) and had no problems with either of them. Solidly built so new doesn't mean necessarily mean good these days!
You just told the truth all campers have problems a lot depends on how it's used an maintain . Fit an finish seems to slip by PDI with most manufacturers .
We have 20 fr v21 rogue vengeance toy. Not only love floorplan but impressed floor plan as king bedrm w bureau, bath fits 2.5 and has even a queen private loft + queen dinette and still eats 5-6. And it's easy on propane and all this open floor with ton of in & out storage...did I mention it has a unique vertical shed? So no more digging stuff out it's all on tiered shelves! with king bed and 2 queens and all that in & out storage it still only 30 ft, 30 amp That said fr put cheap domestic stuff in so: awning material rips in 2 years, awning motor burned up in 2 years, furion oven won't go to temp in just 40 months. Water pump won't seal. Cable TV has wiring issue so never worked. And the AC is soooo loud! Oh and huge fix is fr used Particle board wrapped in vinyl wall paper for kitchen counters. Are they nuts in high water work areas of bath & kitchen counters but gave matching solid surface cut board. Wait.. What? It likely cost same to spwcially print vinyl wallpaper to wrap counters that had to match cut boardatch cut board and then didn't even wrap ot under sink so even kept dry and caulked it came up before 2 years old!...so in just first 4 years we need to replace counter tops, $600 furion oven, if the hood fan light burns out like oven fr informs we need to buy a $180 range hood cause light bulb not changeable as built in like oven thermometer. Whoever heard of a light bulb that don't or oven thermometer that don't come out? Now we learn our jack sofas padding already sagging. We had our Lance midsize pu camper 20 years and used full time last three from Colorado to Florida. The awnings aren't even faded. The oven still works and upholstery still solid even after pet slept on it every night. The only thing Fr had was this fantastic v21 floorplan but then they discounted it also. Our 20+ year old Lance was a winner but Lance disc it also. Like 200 different brands all made by approx 7 manufs. All costing 37k- 70k so you cycle through and continuously finance. They ruining industry with their game of slot machines all bilking costs, then have nerve to hike park rates on retirees who built this industry. There's no American pride or reputation, instead just greedy stick it to customers. The products is just a way to get inhouse finance fees.
sadly, you have Forrest river, Crossroads, and THOR industries which make 90% out there there use to be more separation but all about the same now. the best advice is a GOOD inspection before you even leave the lot and an honest dealer that actually pdis THOURLY!! ( sad so many dont these days) best advice is find a good dealer and also be comfortable doing minor repairs yourself
I bought a 32 ft KZ Connect travel trailer, new, a few years ago. It is a terrible trailer. Furnace stopped working short after I bought it, water system leaks, TV doesn't work. Never will I buy another one of these!
We bought a used 2015 flagstaff microlite by Forest River 2 years ago and we haven’t had any problems with it, with the exception of our dog running right through the screen door lol.
Disappointed to see Keystone on the list particularly because the photo example you used was one from the Cougar line. That was one of the two I had finally narrowed my search down two. It does bring rise to two questions. Many manufacturers seem to have taken a dive during the Covid/supply chain scare years. Are you seeing any kind of a quality recovery? Second, many manufacturers have multiple lines. Are you seeing more of these problems in the budget lines or is it a common thread throughout all their products?
Manufacturer vs Brand; ex. Coleman is a brand. That said, now do the dealers that don’t PDI these issues and remind people that roads and use have a lot to do with issues. Craftsmanship is one thing and use is another. Both equal.
First, to start my comment, we previously had a 1989 26' Wilderness bumper trailer, and it was far superior above what I have to talk about below, and while there were some age related issues, they were nothing like I have with my Forest River! I have a 2016 F/R Saber 5th wheel trailer. I has been nothing but, JUNK,! JUNK,! JUNK,!!! It has 3 slides, 2 street side, and 1 curb side, and all have required work. The forward axil was bent at the street side wheel. The tire mounted on that spindle, wore out after only 5000 miles of use. The axil assembly required complete replacement after less than 5000 mile of use. It has 2 recliners, a full size refrigerator, the microwave, and oven/range mounted on the street side slide. When the slide is retracted for travel, the inboard edge of the floor of the slid is not supported. The slide floor is 1" OSB material and does not contact the house floor and is unsupported when retracted, it looks to be about 5/8" above the house floor. All of this overhead weight causes the OSB to flex, (think, like a trampoline), when traveling over highways. The refrigerator is about mid center on the slide, and being full size, it's heavy. The refer was originally retained in it's enclosure by 2 small clips, 1 each, on the top side, left & right edges and it's own gravity weight. Not having the slide floor supported and resting on the house floor, allowed the OSB to flex enough that the movement of the refer shredded the clips from woodwork they were screwed into, and also shredded the screws that held the enclosure, (top & bottom edges), away from the top and bottom of the slide structure. The shredding destroyed the associated woodwork and required total repair. One thing I learned from this little adventure,,,the refrigerator is larger than any doorways, the only way to remove the refer from the rv, is to remove a slide first! Shortly after our first trip, I saw water flowing across the floor from the kitchen sink. The P-trap was not attached to the drain coming from the sink and allowed the sink water to flow out wherever it wanted to flow. I can offer more to bitch about, but, to answer your first question, yes, I do! I have replaced, 1 each, of the skis on the 2 house slides in addition to my comments about the street slide, (I have more about that, street side, rear, and most likely now, inboard corners). The, street side, bedroom slide does not run on skis. It has 3 rollers to carry it in & out. When retracted, or extended, the rollers have to support a significate amount of weight. The slide retracts, and extends, only so far enough that the rollers are, again, supporting an OSB floor, and the weight that these 3 rollers have to support has caused the OSB to crush/collapse onto the rollers. I have added 1/8" steel runways for the rollers to help carry the slide and support it's weight. For what's it's worth,,. ALL of the cost of repair has been my expense, and workmanship, I'm a retired tool & die maker and I do have a few ideas about how things work. Everything was beyond warranty time. Because life got in our way, this trailer sat, unused, for the first year, in our driveway, (it do a good job of keeping the driveway clean underneath it), and the warranty expired! It's my problem now,, a,, big expensive,, problem!!!! Hell(O) will freeze over twice before I will ever have a Forest River Recreational(?) Vehicle in my driveway again!!!!!!!!!!!! (Unless, of course, your 'recreation', is fixing things)!
I have a 2022 265 rlsJayco Jay flight . So far only issue was rear door not closing easy. But we keep it seasonal in Java Ny so with not towing it stuff does not get bounced around and come loose. Dealer was useless trying to get the door fixed. All they did was take a hammer to it freaking moroons
I have a Coleman 17b, 2021 I think it’s actually smaller inside than our Coleman Tent was🤣. I wish there was a ten ft awning, I larger fridge, get rid of the microwave, a sliding window above the sink, a/c on the roof, a tiny sink in the bathroom. The bed facing out into the camper so both people can get out without disturbing the other. More storage, replace fireplace with a heater. Not use cheap, fake wood on the floor molding. Yikes why’d I sell my tent
My 2021 Heartland bighorn 3375ss is nothing but a piece of crap. New camper had a rotten slide floor. Take 4 months for Heartland to take responsibility. Air Conditioner are also a piece of crap. There is no such thing as "workmenship" at Heartland.
Yeah these RVs are built like s***. These new on demand water heaters are so ridiculously pointless. I'm avoiding my warranty 8 months in and ripping it out and putting in a water heater old school style this winter.
I think outside of Airstream it is a total crapshoot... Wonder it you total the annual sales for these brands, what is their percentage of the total market?? 80%+??
Forest River is owned by Warren Buffet, so you know every corner was cut and cheapest quality system was installed. Most are built by Amish with a 8th grade education.
We bought a 2018 Rockwood Ultra Light. Found it to be a most reliable & easy to tow with a 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee. Our RV dealer, was completely satisfactory in our purchase & introduction to features & safely hitching-up.
I was wondering how you could tow an Ultralite but see you have a 6200-7200 tow capacity, which is impressive. I tow with an Audi Q5 so I went with a GeoPro.
That’s awesome! Happy camping!
Basically, all RV’s are just cracker boxes on wheels. Anyone who owns one needs to be a handyman. Basic repairs will be required throughout ownership. Plus, please learn how to maintain your roof, and learn how to winterize before it’s freezing outside.
Great points! Thanks for watching!
You got that right brother.
unfortunately, in my opinion, after owning several travel trailers I think the best way to go for most trouble-free experience is with a fiberglass trailer. They are pricey they cost a lot but they will last you and your children. If you choose to go that route unfortunately most people don’t realize the work that has to be done as far as upkeep goes to your average RV
Completely true! Our seasonal was a really nice fiberglass unit that we never had any issues with. Thanks for watching!
I chose a grand design Imagine and really have zero problems so far
100% agree. I just picked up a 17' Cortes and I can't imagine going back to stick and tin.
I've owned four RV campers. #1: Airstream (my current/last camper). #2: Jayco (solid w/minimal issues). #3: Coachman (solid, but the electrical is sketchy and prone to faults/spaghetti wiring). #4: Coleman (don't go near them... junk). Good luck out there...
We’ve owned multiple different brands as well. Thankfully only minimal issues on every one. Thanks for watching
Thanks for the heads up. I had been considering a Coleman…
@@Thecampingloopwhich Coleman model do you have that you mentioned?
@@Sentimentalist0923 I don't have a Coleman. That is all I have to say... enjoy camping.
you could make a video on the worst 10 thousand brands becasue 99 per cent of them are made worse than children play toys for a birthday party and then dispose
You’re probably right. Thanks for watching
Our 2022 NuCamp T@B 400 has been a rolling nightmare. Brakes have come apart, parts routinely fall off, fans break, and the bathroom door hinges have had to be replaced twice. Dealer support is hit or miss., mostly miss and NuCamp support non existent. I will never buy another NuCamp product again.
Unfortunately you’re not alone. Good luck out there in the future. Thanks for watching!
We had a Rockwood Roo Hybrid for 27 years, never a problem thank goodness! Now got another Rockwood by Forest River and so far all is good!
Awesome to hear! Happy camping!
our 2015 Flagstaff/Rockwood was so good !
@@colleenwilkin5705 Flagstaff/Rockwood are top quality! Forest River owns them but has nothing to do with their manufacturing. It angers me when people say Forest River is a horrible manufacturer when in fact they don't manufacture a thing, the companies/brands they OWN do, and some suck, others don't.
I have a 2019 Taylor Coach travel trailer built one at time here in Ontario, Canada. No assembly line bad quality here. This is our 2nd Taylor Coach. Excellent customer service before and after too. I can’t say enough about this family run business since 1967.
Good info! Thanks for watching
We bought a used 22 FT. 2019 used Heartland Sundance in early 2020 by a dealer in Surprise AZ. It had everything we wanted in a camper and checked all the boxes and was a pre-covid camper. I'm glad we bought it when we did and only had one issue and that was the toilet. It took us a while to figure it out but to make a long story short the camper came with a basic Dominic toilet, and we quickly noticed something was wrong. Because of the design it wouldn't flush away contents properly, so we bought a Heford toilet and what a difference that made. We are happy campers!
Awesome to hear! Thanks so much for watching! Safe travels!
Based on this, I need to rethink my goal to retire with an RV - thanks for steering me away from buying a RV.
Thanks for watching!
buy a grand design..from a reputable dealer (not camper world or the like). we've had our grand design 17mke for 3 years zero issues..And if you have an issue GD will stand behind their product and make it right..still won't be fun fixing repairs but one FR customer had a frame crack well snap at the hitch and wouldn't do Anything about it..blamed the frame maker..frame maker blamed FR consumer Never got any resolution and had to trash the trailer. Grand Design All the Way..
We have a 2007 Jayco Jay flight 30’ bunkhouse. We have not had any issues with it except over all the years some of the wall paper has wrinkled in a few areas. Probably due to temperature changes. Come spring I may loosen the trim and take a hair dryer to it and see about smoothing it out and tacking it back down. We have had a lot of good memories with our kids and grandkids …. Inside still looks close to new as I always did a deep clean at the end of the season. We just resealed the roof for maintenance protection for the first time. Never had any leaks or problems. Absolutely have loved our camper and hope to get many more years of making memories. I think when Covid hit everything went down in quality and the pride they used to take in building Rv’s or anything really. But the price of things sadly have sky rocketed. $$$$$$.
Nice to be able to make memories. Completely agree about Covid. Thanks for watching
We own a coleman 17b 2024 , and love it , we had a Foretravel some years ago and swore when we got and RV we would go simple , this is so easy to maintain and deal with , it's comfortable and serves the purpose , all will have issues , but these are very simplistic , not alot of expense to deal with !
Couldn’t have said it better myself! We love our 2020 and it’s been trouble free. Completely agree! Thanks for watching!
I have a 2021 Jayco, purchased in 2020 (non covid build). Zero issues as of today. 40K miles
Nice! Hopefully your luck continues. Happy camping!
My Coleman 16fbs has great build quality. It actually just survived 100mph winds in Milton. The next morning, my right was dry as a bone. No water got in at all and the winds didn't affect it. My Coachman pop up I had before the Coleman was awful. From the dealership the front storage hatch leaked and rotted out.
Glad to hear it survived! Thanks for watching
I knew Arctic Fox wouldn't make the list. My 22G is built like a tank. Unfortunately, it weighs almost as much as a tank.
Great rigs!
I had a F orest River Wolf Pup that was a fantastic camper until it got destroyed in a storm. The only problem I had with it was the cheap Chinese 12 volt DC fridge. When it was new, it worked great, and I was amazed at it. But it failed after about 2 seasons, so I replaced it with a 110 volt AC fridge and had no problems. Really enjoyed it until it was destroyed.
Sorry to hear about that!
I have a 2022 Gulfstream Amerilite 199RK. It had a roof leak when brand new, a failed battery (Interstate) at 8 months, and the cover of a marker light flew off. Otherwise it's been pretty flawless and all were easy repairs
Hopefully all is good in the future. Thanks for watching!
You got the Heartland issues bang on. My 2022 Shadow cruiser has cracks and mouldings flying off because roof not attached properly
The trailer was water saturated after my first month. Dealer in Ottawa ( Ottawa camping) laughed and said it’s not our fault, we didn’t build it.
My insurance paid for another and we got a Surveyor Legend. Great trailer …. No issues
Remember
If you buy a trailer brand new, that sat a year or 2, that if could be rotten from water intrusion if dealer didn’t check seals each 3 months
The manufacturer only guarantees roof at dealer for first 3 months.
Its dealer responsibility to inspect and seal roof after 3 months
Good point! Thanks for watching 👍
The question would be. Wich ones are good? 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️. Any recommendations?
Coming soon!
I have a 2020 Gulfstream vintage cruiser 19ERD. When I purchase this trailer I knew it was a low in model and was going to need some upgrades which I have done. Overall and very happy with the build quality. People have to remember that trailers are earthquakes going down the road and will need some TLC to maintain them.
Great point! Thanks for watching! Happy camping!
I have a 2024 Gulfstream Amerilite 199 rk. Its really nice but poor quality and countless major issues including a roof leak, water pump leak, tub leak, kitchen sink leak, hot water heater not working. Its only a few months old....im over it 😡
Ouch! Sorry to hear that. Hopefully the issues stop! Good luck
Researched alot of used trailers before buying our used 2012 Jayco Skylark. Been using it for 2 years now and love it. No issues, still looks great, light, great floorplan. Research and dont fall for how pretty the new ones are. Quality after 2017 is a joke for the majority of the brands.
Good advice 👍
Buy a used one and save the depreciation - the warranties are only a year long and not worth their weight in snot anyway. Like said, if you're not handy bring your cheque book cause you're going to need it! Got an '07 KZ Outdoorsman, built like a tank but it still takes work to keep it going.
Good points! Thanks for watching
I have a 1994 Coleman Rio Grande popup trailer. Very bare bones when it comes to features (no furnace, no toilet, no fridge, hand pump faucet). I'm probably the 5th owner. I'm constantly fixing stuff on it, BUT it's 30 years old so that's expected. It also does the job it's designed to do: keep us off the ground and out of inclement weather. We've gone all over the west from the Valley of Fire, to the northern redwoods with it. Recently my wife and I have been looking at hard sides, and were impressed by the 17b. I have friends that own them and love them. With the 2025 models, I can fit in the shower, they have a proper furnace, and a tankless water heater. We're sold on getting one very soon.
Not a bad plan at all! Thanks for watching 👍
We bought a 2023 Coachman Clipper built by Forest River, our first travel trailer. Our biggest complaint is the crummy industry standard door latch and the poor workmanship. We had an under sink leak caused by them not tightening the trap joint flange. Both easily fixed. I have renovated mobile homes built in the 70-80’s and the construction methods and quality are the same.
Well good luck in the future! Hopefully all works out
I have a Forest River and we haven't had any problems with it.
That’s great to hear. Hopefully you’re good. Thanks for watching
That’s what we have and we love it. It’s a hybrid ROO. Had it from 19
@@darthelmo1 you must be ne of the lucky ones.
@@darthelmo1 you must be one of the lucky ones.
After 3 years our Forest River Salem has been good. We did have one water leak but I fixed that and the roof was cut when it was built in the factory. Instead of giving up our camper for probably 6 months while they replace the roof I just keep an eye on it. I’ve been in the house and Commercial building business over 40 years so I fix everything myself.
Good idea! I’m sure you’re probably better off handling it yourself!
Yea that’s why I couldn’t buy new like you said you have to take a second mortgage out, my neighbor bought brand new twice and good brands he had to go back to the dealer so many times for a 100k plus camper that’s unacceptable in my eyes I just say buy as cheap as you can and if your handy enough just fix the little things here and there when they come up just got me a 2016 all I had to do was fix a bunch of screws and little parts that broke or were missing and walla just like new
Completely agree in unacceptable when spending big bucks. Can’t stress how much of an advantage people who are handy have when it comes to owning a rig!
The main problem is quality of workmanship. When the factory’s main goal is production volume, corners will be cut, and quality control will be left to the buyer. There are a few manufactures who produce a high quality RV. The best place to look is the factory floor. Are the workers well trained, well supervised, and take pride in their work?
Good point👍
Our Heartland has problems with Main Cabin lights and a bad seal between the better bathroom toilet and black tank, causing a soft bathroom floor and are not covered by any warranty. Just getting the floor partial repaired and toilet seal replaced cost us $1000.00. There are a few other issues, but I can understand as normal as I will repair them. An improvement would not use the long staples to hold up the structure of the bed. Would I recommend this brand is a partial yes.
Good points. Thanks for watching
We have a 2020 Keystone Outback 221UMD, and overall it has been very good for us. Yes it had a few things that were issues but all have been small. Biggest issue I have had was the Furrion fridge stopped working right before a 2 week trip. Bad circuit board. All manufacturers have issues! These units get best up going down the road. We have owned 2 Keystone RVs over the years. Both over all were good.
Totally agree. Thanks for watching
My wife and I are going to buy an off-grid travel travel and it's looking like we're going to buy a Rockwood Geo Pro made by Forest River. Not that they're perfect but they seem to have fewer complaints than other travel trailers. Fortunately I'm an electrician, shadetree mechanic, and quite a handyman so I know what I'm getting into and am fully prepared to have to do a lot of repairs on my own.
Good luck on your new rig! Very helpful to have an idea on how to fix problems.
Look into Outdoors RV. After walking so many rvs you can tell the quality plus they build there own heavy duty frames and have full suspension systems on the wheels and axles. They are built to boondock and get into remote areas.
80-100 gallons of fresh water in all models.
I hear Rockwood went to all Pex plumbing, which is a big deal, leaks in others waiting to happen
My first time seeing your video, and you are a riot. Excellent video.
I subscribed
I rolled a 2014 Forest River Wildwood XLite. Had one issue with it, a broken slide controller. No complaints.
Thanks for watching
We bought a used 2022 Tiffin Wayfarer RW in January. None of the drawer slides had been installed correctly so I had to remove all of them and re-install them properly. On our first trip the door larch failed and the door would not open. That was an expensive repair. At the same time the solenoid that charges the batteries when the truck's engine is running failed.
A wall panel was cut 1/2 inch too long and the fasteners in the middle failed so the middle bulged out. I had to remove it trim off the excess 1.2 inch and reinstall. None of the drawers would remain closed - I had to install extra latches. The integrated backup/blind spot cameras have a "Known issue" where they stop working of the dash heats up from sunlight. The motor for the powered murphy bed failed (why even make a powered murphy bed?) and the RV tech said that the issue is that the motor is only rated for a dynamic load of 55 pounds.
The bathroom door was hung improperly - I had to remove and reinstall it.
On the last trip the door jammed in the frame. The RV tech said that the problem was that they used screws that were too short for the application when it was made.
I got it back from the RV repair people on Monday. Taking a 3-day trip tomorrow. I'm just wondering what's going to break this time.
Good luck! At least it seems you’re handy and can fix issues yourself! Thanks for watching!
Currently own a Rockwood by Forest River. It’s been the best trailer I’ve had, three so far. Its build quality is so much better than the North Trail (multiple slide leaks, roof leaks in 3 months)I owned.
Good to hear. Hopefully you continue to have good luck. Thanks for watching!
Another RV poster once said "driving your RV down the road is like exposing your house to an earthquake for a few hours every time you travel with it". Don't you think something is going to break if you do that?
That’s true! Thanks for watching!
I think if people went to the factory and saw how these campers are now thrown together there would be no camper sales!! 😄
Probably true! Thanks for watching
Built by crack heads , unfortunately it doesn’t matter which brand or even what industry the quality of workmanship is complete garbage. No one takes pride in their work
I had a job for a while working on cranes. One customer made RVs. I was pretty shocked and intrigued how they do it. They have high turnover and pay little. Not to mention the fact there is a countdown clock and everyone is pressured to get their portion done. It just encourages them to miss mistakes or to intentionally overlook them.
I have a Scamp fiberglass trailer. It’s 8 years old and no problem. The company is family owned and they stand behind there trailer. And the trade in value is the best .If you make a best trailer list please had the scamp to it.
Love scamps! Great little campers!
We are on our 2 year of Coleman Lantern…it’s a 2023 and we haven’t had very many issues at all so far! We will be taking it out this weekend!
We haven’t either in our 2020! Happy camping!
Have 2019 Coleman and love it. 6 years and never a problem except black tank indicator which failed after first use.
We love ours too!
202417 b Coleman Dutchman I have to have the entire front wall where the seam is at replaced and I've had to have the door adjusted but from what I understand that's just wear and tear
I haven’t heard of this yet but I’m not surprised. Thanks for watching!
Own a 2020 Winnebago for 4 yrs and had no issues with it. Overall it was a solid rv. Own an Alliance Rv now for 2 years and no issues. Just do monthly and yearly maintenance.
Good point. Nice rigs I think
We just bought a 2024 keystone passport gt 2600FK. Where do I start? Barn door on bathroom was dragging floor, had to cut 3/8" off if it. Range vent cover flew off on ride home from dealer, electrical outlet went through wall when wife plugged in stick vacuum, turn signal wires were reversed, widow broke due to improper install, trim molding and cabinet door latches and drawer glides falling off. We paid 40k for a fixer upper
Ouch! Unfortunately this seems like the normal now. Thanks for watching! Good luck!
@@Thecampingloop luckily keystone is going to reimburse me for the window glass and a electric box cover, they replaced range vent cover, and for my trouble the dealer gave me a maxxair fan that was taken out of a new RV to add an AC unit. Going to a good local dealer matters. Much better and faster service than a certain super national dealer I bought my 2018 StarCraft from.
2022 Forrest River Wildwood 170SSX. I've had it for two years now. One bad slide motor a week after taking it home but (Knock on wood) no other issues.
Hopefully it’s good to go now. Best of luck out there! Thanks for watching 👍
You are not taking into consideration the volume vs number of complaints. It only makes sense that Forest River would have a high number of complaints--they make and sell considerably more units that almost every other manufacturer. Any analysis of this type should look at the ratio of complaints to unitls sold.
Good point. I’m just the messenger and didn’t make the list. Thanks for watching
Notice a trend here? the last three years. Simply don't buy anything built during or post covid and I mean anything as in vehicles.
Very true!
Like ya said, from the cheapest to the most expensive and no matter the brand they all have issues. We could have coffee and breakfast over that one.
Absolutely agree! Thanks for watching 👍
I bought a 2023 jayco 32 ft and have had very minor issues!! Will see what happens when the warranty runs out!!😮🙏🏽
Hopefully nothing major. Thanks for watching
I bought a Forest River Viking 9.0 and it has been nightmare. I’ve had to repair almost everything. Very poor build quality. Cheap.
Better luck next time. Thanks for watching
Got a Jayco since 2016 love it only problem with it is the radio start by itself randomly
That’s a random problem. Glad it’s issue free, thanks for watching!
It was probably the alarm clock feature turned on
@bigchaloopa had it in at dealership a few time and they never could found problem
Which model do you have?
@@Sentimentalist092326 bh
Keystone RV basically makes everything today. I was shocked when we were RV shopping and while overwhelmed with all the "name brands" I noticed that almost all of the big names says Keystone RV Muncie, Indiana on them somewhere inconspicuous lol. Btw I am highly insulted that Jayco TT is on the list lol. We had a 2024 Jayco JayFlight slx 174bh and liked it so much we upgraded to a 2025 Jayco JayFlight 284bhs. Super nice imo and the small one seemed pretty high quality too.
I offended by coleman lol. Best of luck to you and your jayco! Happy camping!
I have a 2020 Forest River SuperLite, and love it, no issues!
Awesome to hear! Happy camping!
Got the 2025 Forest River NOBO 20.3 with beast mode suspension. FR actually seemed to listen to the reviews on the 2023/24 models from those who own them! All the small problems pointed out were recified - cabinets, pop-up power tower, added another solar panel (2x200). We upped to a 100wLithium, and it has kept the fridge cold, lights on, for days. Glad we got the "beast mode suspension" because of the over the road pot holes, etc, are what cause so much damage. Took it on a pretty sketchy road out in backwoods of Northern VA, and nothing inside moved - pretty impressive. It is akin to the same type of suspension found on tanks/Strykers, etc - platform/cabin is stable and doesn't absorb much if any shock. I am seeing many youtuber r/v videos in which people are getting the 4 wheel independent suspension installed to combat that - pretty expensive after-market. Get it initially. It is worth the extra money imho. The tires are high quality off-road and not ones on "axle-ed" models. So far, only issue is the lock on the main entry glass door. We tried to change it to a keyless entry, but the glass doesn't allow for it. We replaced the locks with new key ones after calling tech support. Make sure you operate the door with lock and key several times when picking it up from the dealer as some of the screws may be loose. By operate, I mean slam it shut...lol. Storage doors are no problem - just that one. You will have to purchase the Maxx Air vents for the roof fan (dealer had them and installed them) and a telescoping ladder as this model does not have the affixed ladder. GOD Bless
Sounds like a really nice rig! Best of luck out there. Thanks for watching!
I bought a 2023 Winnebago Micro Minnie and have had nothing with problems with it. Everything that could leak has: sink, toilet, and outside shower! I had to replace the water pump this year bc it leaked. I would NOT RECOMMEND WINNEBAGO!
Unfortunately you’re not the first to report this. Good luck in the future!
We’ve had our KZ Connect for 4 years now, with no problems. We go camping every 2 weeks. I believe the life of a camper depends on how someone takes care of it.
Completely agree! Thanks for watching
We have had 2 keystone passport trailers and have not had any of the the problems that you talked about but all of them have problems they are made fast and cheap so if your a handyman you can get by
Agreed! Thanks for watching
We bought a new 2021 Coachman Apex 256RBSS built in 2020. Other than the fridge not working from the start, which was replaced under warranty in 2 weeks. Our camper has been okay. We are afraid to upgrade and get stuck with a something with tons of problems.
I don’t blame you! Thanks for watching
I have had 5 campers. I think I can say, in our case's,...Lippert and or Furrion have been mostly the guilty parties. And yes the quality has gone straight down hill from our first one in 2015.
Completely agree. Thanks for watching 👍🏼
I have a 2019 Cruiser MPG made by Heartland and something breaks every time I use it : (
That’s too bad. Hopefully better luck ahead!
I wouldn't give you crap for any of these trailers made in the last 3-4 years. We have owned a 1996 Jayco Eagle and a 2013 Jayco Eagle (both bought used) and had no problems with either of them. Solidly built so new doesn't mean necessarily mean good these days!
Completely agree! Thanks for watching!
You just told the truth all campers have problems a lot depends on how it's used an maintain . Fit an finish seems to slip by PDI with most manufacturers .
Complete agree! Thanks for watching
I'm pretty sure Fleetwood pulled out of the towable RV business 15+ years ago.
It’s hard to get any dealer to stand behind their products nowadays.
Very true!
I’ve owned a Forrest river ultra V purchased new in 2017 best travel trailer ever with no problems!
Good to hear!
We have 20 fr v21 rogue vengeance toy. Not only love floorplan but impressed floor plan as king bedrm w bureau, bath fits 2.5 and has even a queen private loft + queen dinette and still eats 5-6. And it's easy on propane and all this open floor with ton of in & out storage...did I mention it has a unique vertical shed? So no more digging stuff out it's all on tiered shelves! with king bed and 2 queens and all that in & out storage it still only 30 ft, 30 amp
That said fr put cheap domestic stuff in so: awning material rips in 2 years, awning motor burned up in 2 years, furion oven won't go to temp in just 40 months. Water pump won't seal. Cable TV has wiring issue so never worked. And the AC is soooo loud! Oh and huge fix is fr used Particle board wrapped in vinyl wall paper for kitchen counters. Are they nuts in high water work areas of bath & kitchen counters but gave matching solid surface cut board. Wait..
What? It likely cost same to spwcially print vinyl wallpaper to wrap counters that had to match cut boardatch cut board and then didn't even wrap ot under sink so even kept dry and caulked it came up before 2 years old!...so in just first 4 years we need to replace counter tops, $600 furion oven, if the hood fan light burns out like oven fr informs we need to buy a $180 range hood cause light bulb not changeable as built in like oven thermometer. Whoever heard of a light bulb that don't or oven thermometer that don't come out? Now we learn our jack sofas padding already sagging. We had our Lance midsize pu camper 20 years and used full time last three from Colorado to Florida. The awnings aren't even faded. The oven still works and upholstery still solid even after pet slept on it every night.
The only thing Fr had was this fantastic v21 floorplan but then they discounted it also.
Our 20+ year old Lance was a winner but Lance disc it also.
Like 200 different brands all made by approx 7 manufs. All costing 37k- 70k so you cycle through and continuously finance. They ruining industry with their game of slot machines all bilking costs, then have nerve to hike park rates on retirees who built this industry. There's no American pride or reputation, instead just greedy stick it to customers. The products is just a way to get inhouse finance fees.
You pretty much nailed it! Good luck out there in the future. Thanks for watching and happy camping!
My understanding was that most things before COVID were built well and anything during or after COVID is a crap shoot
Unfortunately you might be on to something. Thanks for watching
I agree. Colman is as t the bottom of most peoples list. Just glad you may have a decent one.
Me too! Thanks for watching!
2023 Coleman Lantern LT 17B no issues so far, we love the rv.
We love ours too! Forget the stupid list😂
The roof will leak within two years. Check each corner of the roof please.
sadly, you have Forrest river, Crossroads, and THOR industries which make 90% out there
there use to be more separation but all about the same now.
the best advice is a GOOD inspection before you even leave the lot and an honest dealer that actually pdis THOURLY!! ( sad so many dont these days)
best advice is find a good dealer and also be comfortable doing minor repairs yourself
Good advice! Completely agree! Thanks for watching
Any opinions on Criser Stryker? I’ve had it for 2 years and just some minor issues. Thank God I bought an extended warranty.
Don’t know too much about them. Good luck
@@Thecampingloop thank you
I bought a 32 ft KZ Connect travel trailer, new, a few years ago. It is a terrible trailer. Furnace stopped working short after I bought it, water system leaks, TV doesn't work. Never will I buy another one of these!
Sorry to hear that. Good luck in the future
We bought a used 2015 flagstaff microlite by Forest River 2 years ago and we haven’t had any problems with it, with the exception of our dog running right through the screen door lol.
Good to hear! Thanks for watching
Flagstaff is Forest Rivers best product and is built completely different than their other models
Hey do you mind ever doing a video or review on your scooters to putt around campsites I think I’d be interested in that
The scooters are awesome and we love having them. Video coming soon!
So we heard about the bad. Tell us about the good ones. Also, I want to go boondocking most of the time, so which ones can handle going off road?
Coming soon!
Me and wife has a 2014 grand design 5th wheel. Regular maintenance done and lucky for us no issues.
Good to hear! Thanks for watching!
We have a 2022 grand design reflection, it has been the best 5th so far. No problems so far.
My camper lasted longer then my first marriage 😂
😂😂😂Nice!
Bruh!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Have to admit that mine didn't. 🤣
Disappointed to see Keystone on the list particularly because the photo example you used was one from the Cougar line. That was one of the two I had finally narrowed my search down two.
It does bring rise to two questions. Many manufacturers seem to have taken a dive during the Covid/supply chain scare years. Are you seeing any kind of a quality recovery?
Second, many manufacturers have multiple lines. Are you seeing more of these problems in the budget lines or is it a common thread throughout all their products?
Have a 22 keystone only problem we have had is trim falling down
Glad to hear that’s all! Thanks for watching!
My buddy has been living in a Colman year round for 2 years
Had to replace a.c.
That's it
Ours has been good too! Thanks for watching
Manufacturer vs Brand; ex. Coleman is a brand. That said, now do the dealers that don’t PDI these issues and remind people that roads and use have a lot to do with issues. Craftsmanship is one thing and use is another. Both equal.
Good point👍 thanks for watching!
I can stay in a hotel for less money than an rv. OR I can camp out with a tent. KOA has showers and bathrooms. Or I can sleep in my car.
Lots of tent and car campers out there for sure! Thanks for watching
So, what’s a decent travel trailer to buy new in late 2024?
Lots of choices out there. Good luck
@@Thecampingloop brands and models please?
We have a 2022 colman lantern 17 b, and we have had no problems with it.
Our 2020 is great . Best of luck to you! Thanks for watching!👍
00:55 Forest River leading the pack for the worst RVs? Yikes! 😬 Definitely dodging that bullet! Anyone else dealt with their infamous slide issues?
I was surprised to see them there. Unfortunately the slides is a big issue. Thanks for watching!
First, to start my comment, we previously had a 1989 26' Wilderness bumper trailer, and it was far superior above what I have to talk about below, and while there were some age related issues, they were nothing like I have with my Forest River!
I have a 2016 F/R Saber 5th wheel trailer. I has been nothing but, JUNK,! JUNK,! JUNK,!!! It has 3 slides, 2 street side, and 1 curb side, and all have required work. The forward axil was bent at the street side wheel. The tire mounted on that spindle, wore out after only 5000 miles of use. The axil assembly required complete replacement after less than 5000 mile of use. It has 2 recliners, a full size refrigerator, the microwave, and oven/range mounted on the street side slide. When the slide is retracted for travel, the inboard edge of the floor of the slid is not supported. The slide floor is 1" OSB material and does not contact the house floor and is unsupported when retracted, it looks to be about 5/8" above the house floor. All of this overhead weight causes the OSB to flex, (think, like a trampoline), when traveling over highways. The refrigerator is about mid center on the slide, and being full size, it's heavy. The refer was originally retained in it's enclosure by 2 small clips, 1 each, on the top side, left & right edges and it's own gravity weight. Not having the slide floor supported and resting on the house floor, allowed the OSB to flex enough that the movement of the refer shredded the clips from woodwork they were screwed into, and also shredded the screws that held the enclosure, (top & bottom edges), away from the top and bottom of the slide structure. The shredding destroyed the associated woodwork and required total repair. One thing I learned from this little adventure,,,the refrigerator is larger than any doorways, the only way to remove the refer from the rv, is to remove a slide first! Shortly after our first trip, I saw water flowing across the floor from the kitchen sink. The P-trap was not attached to the drain coming from the sink and allowed the sink water to flow out wherever it wanted to flow. I can offer more to bitch about, but, to answer your first question, yes, I do! I have replaced, 1 each, of the skis on the 2 house slides in addition to my comments about the street slide, (I have more about that, street side, rear, and most likely now, inboard corners). The, street side, bedroom slide does not run on skis. It has 3 rollers to carry it in & out. When retracted, or extended, the rollers have to support a significate amount of weight. The slide retracts, and extends, only so far enough that the rollers are, again, supporting an OSB floor, and the weight that these 3 rollers have to support has caused the OSB to crush/collapse onto the rollers. I have added 1/8" steel runways for the rollers to help carry the slide and support it's weight.
For what's it's worth,,. ALL of the cost of repair has been my expense, and workmanship, I'm a retired tool & die maker and I do have a few ideas about how things work. Everything was beyond warranty time. Because life got in our way, this trailer sat, unused, for the first year, in our driveway, (it do a good job of keeping the driveway clean underneath it), and the warranty expired!
It's my problem now,, a,, big expensive,, problem!!!!
Hell(O) will freeze over twice before I will ever have a Forest River Recreational(?) Vehicle in my driveway again!!!!!!!!!!!! (Unless, of course, your 'recreation', is fixing things)!
I have a 2022 265 rlsJayco Jay flight . So far only issue was rear door not closing easy. But we keep it seasonal in Java Ny so with not towing it stuff does not get bounced around and come loose. Dealer was useless trying to get the door fixed. All they did was take a hammer to it freaking moroons
Unfortunately most dealers are worthless 😂Thanks for watching!
I have a Coleman 17b, 2021
I think it’s actually smaller inside than our Coleman Tent was🤣. I wish there was a ten ft awning, I larger fridge, get rid of the microwave, a sliding window above the sink, a/c on the roof, a tiny sink in the bathroom. The bed facing out into the camper so both people can get out without disturbing the other. More storage, replace fireplace with a heater. Not use cheap, fake wood on the floor molding. Yikes why’d I sell my tent
😂 we feel your pain! Thanks for watching!👍
What about funding
a good list. If there is one. Thanks
We’re working on it. Thanks for watching!
RV sometimes stands for
Ruined Vacation!!
😂true!
My 2021 Heartland bighorn 3375ss is nothing but a piece of crap. New camper had a rotten slide floor. Take 4 months for Heartland to take responsibility. Air Conditioner are also a piece of crap. There is no such thing as "workmenship" at Heartland.
Sorry to hear this. Hopefully it’ll work out. Thanks for watching
Winnebago Mico Minnie 2108ds just dam junk
Sadly you’re not the first to report this. Good luck in the future. Thanks for watching
I noticed you didnt mention Avenir 17 r. So i gess there not the worst. 😮
Not sure much about them. Thanks for watching
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Camper owners are a hilarious group of people ! And I thought farmers had the market cornered on poor mouthing !
Very true!
I have a Forest River Rockwood Mini Lite with zero issues, knock on wood.
Hopefully you’re all good! Thanks for watching!
Yeah these RVs are built like s***. These new on demand water heaters are so ridiculously pointless. I'm avoiding my warranty 8 months in and ripping it out and putting in a water heater old school style this winter.
Not a bad idea!👍
I think outside of Airstream it is a total crapshoot... Wonder it you total the annual sales for these brands, what is their percentage of the total market?? 80%+??
Probably. Thanks for watching!
My Micro Minnie has gone over 12000 miles, no issues!
Awesome to hear! Thanks for watching
what about the sunray couples camper?
I personally don’t know much about them. I didn’t see them on the list though
2018 Coachman Catalina 26BH. Your coleman is not a covid camper! L bracket everything. Everything.
Good point👍 Thanks for watching!
Forest River is owned by Warren Buffet, so you know every corner was cut and cheapest quality system was installed. Most are built by Amish with a 8th grade education.
Glad I didn’t see my A-liner!
No sir!