Can a Registered Sex Offender Get Off the Registry Under New Law SB 384

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  • @justincase1919
    @justincase1919 Рік тому +65

    I'm glad to see people standing against this.
    I know i did wrong, but I'm still a human being and still an American citizen.
    I served my time and it was a long time ago, i should be free.
    Having to register is not freedom, it's life on parole.

    • @ericmartinez5475
      @ericmartinez5475 Рік тому +9

      Omg brother you have a great point of saying that bc is constantly on parole supervision. Wow that's true thank you for bringing it up.

    • @xxwickedtryhardxx1686
      @xxwickedtryhardxx1686 9 місяців тому +4

      Hey man I was convinced at 13 when the "crime" happened when I was 9-10 years old I was molested since birth and was lied to by my grandma that I was a only child and then all of a sudden my mom came home from prison wanted me home I acted out of trama and not being taught it was not okay to have sexual touches with family I know it's embarrassing But I was. Tier one the probation was horrible and in helpful in helping me through my trama and what it does to others it just made me feel even worse about my self when I was a kid! Finally got off the registry I had my whole teenage hood stripped from me my "victim" even told the judge she wanted me home in the house no actual victim would want their abuser in the same house so it further proves the laws are unconstitutional and are more damaging then get the real people who go after children help so they don't do it again they dont do that so it proves it's just about putting people in their system so they can slowly strip our rights back in the day if you were caught raping a child you would be killed right then and their I'm not saying kill all SO's but the ones who deliberately go after kids Your strong man keep going as I have been fighting all my life and have lost everything at a young age can't find a job or housing or be able to protect myself from ignorant gang bangers I'm never allowed to be "free" for something I did as a kid when I did my monthly polygraphs that I passed everytime I had to go to a special guy to be able to determine weather or not I can get off the registry he even said I am sorry you went through this and he stated he has seen many kids in my same situation have their life wrongfully ruined and it was normal to be sexually active at 10 even earlier life and he then made me fill out a sheet and I he said I was good to go and told the court I was not into kids and not a threat to society and I got off of it and will fallow me for the rest of my life I got my state gun rights back but never federal still got to ask "permission" and not to mention I have received no justice actual justice against the guy who did it to me and my older sister and older brother the people who were supposed to protect me never did and never put him in the dirt or in jail you no one is alone in this world ! And that was honestly the hardest thing to grasp in life god bless! No one is alone in this world the laws are screwed up

    • @AlanWangVideos
      @AlanWangVideos 6 днів тому

      I am a woman. I am a victim. It is the only crime that there's no forgiveness for... You can even kill a cop, serve a good amount of time in prison, and not have these restrictions once you're out. I believe in forgiveness. I also know the government is really great at wasting our money. I hope any man reading this who is on the registry, did his time, gone through therapy, and has not reoffended... Is able to find freedom off the registry.

    • @justincase1919
      @justincase1919 6 днів тому +2

      @AlanWangVideos
      God bless you, I'm sorry for whatever happened to you.

    • @AlanWangVideos
      @AlanWangVideos 6 днів тому +1

      @@justincase1919 Thank you sir.

  • @EduardoGonzalez-qm2uk
    @EduardoGonzalez-qm2uk Рік тому +80

    Why don’t murderers have to register? If they get out of prison, should they not have to register?

    • @Seawitch907
      @Seawitch907 Рік тому +20

      I’ve been wondering about that for years.

    • @Ncaa67
      @Ncaa67 Рік тому +6

      The state can’t afford that slippery slope. And no political bonus brownie points

    • @MiataManDan
      @MiataManDan Рік тому +3

      Nah murderers are people just care about sex offenders

    • @brittanyritenour4695
      @brittanyritenour4695 Рік тому

      Exactly!

    • @brittanyritenour4695
      @brittanyritenour4695 Рік тому +14

      @@Seawitch907 sex offenders are treated like the worst kind of criminal and most are not thieves, murders, or anyone dangerous and some were teenagers with peole onlt a few years younger

  • @haydeefm7414
    @haydeefm7414 8 місяців тому +10

    This should be deemed unconstitutional. Someone can kill and dismember their victims and after they serve their time can move forward and live a normal life. A Sexual Offender can't seek help before acting on an impulse and then after they do their time, they continue to be incarcerated by these extreme requirements. In Florida, they recently changed the 1,000-foot mandate to 2,500 feet, the equivalent of 9.5 street blocks making it more difficult than ever for these individuals to find allowable housing. Basically, they are being set up for failure.

  • @JoseTorres-dl3kh
    @JoseTorres-dl3kh Рік тому +15

    I was forced on the sex offender registry by Saint Clair shores police department without any charges. In 2015-16 I was charged with failure to register when the computer made sudden changes without notice to me. I proved in this trial I had never been charged by Michigan or any other u.s. jurisdiction court military or otherwise for even a first offense let alone habitual. I have been verifying since 11-02-2007 and the alleged charges are from the same date. The courts looked for a year and three months finding no charges anywhere for me. My name was to be removed because of this proof yet the public defender I had during this trial in 2015-16 stood against me trying to get me to plead to a 24 year sentence. Again this case was dismissed with prejudice by the judge as I have no charges. This same public defender was running for county prosecutor during my trial which did reflect in his representation of me. Fast forward to this year and he is again charging me with failure to register because their is no court of ajudication against me anywhere in America under any u.s. jurisdiction proven as such. Yet on the registry I'm listed as a tier three offender. This same prosecutor is now trying to convict me for failure to register again violating the law. I also have proof that he changed my charges on the registry to a military conviction which is false again and I proved in the trial from 2015-16. I also have proof he changed the logic and ruling of the same trial to a nolle prosequi judgement.
    The proof is on my favor to not only have my name removed from the registry but I also have grounds for a lawsuit against Michigan for this problem. As well as a lawsuit for taking my children from me based off of these false charges. All the lawyers I talk to in the state of Michigan have refused to take up my cause and trust me based off the registry alone.
    I am not a sex offender, I have no charges anywhere in America or in the military and the only reason I'm on the registry is because my name is the same as someone else. This is the only reason. please help. I'm listed as a tier three and have never been. Charged with a first crime let alone any second or third case at all.

    • @MikeCormack-c2m
      @MikeCormack-c2m 2 місяці тому +1

      Your name might be the same but your SS number is not. Can they not get the info they need from that? Hang in there bro. The lawsuit that will eventually follow will have you set up for the rest of your life! Dates of birth,SS numbers, birth records, finger prints. So many things that separate you from the real perp. Also contact the Innocence Project. They can help you.

  • @jarrodyuki7081
    @jarrodyuki7081 2 роки тому +31

    black notes take away your hope red notes take away your pride. the registry does both so it must be terminated.

    • @Ncaa67
      @Ncaa67 Рік тому +5

      Or better at qualifying, rehabilitation requirements, and limits. But then other kinds of crime should be registered. Also it should not be a factor in hiring except for specific jobs. But then the fear mongers would start jumping up and down again.

    • @stevendeleonardis9137
      @stevendeleonardis9137 Рік тому

      What did you do

  • @ericmartinez5475
    @ericmartinez5475 Рік тому +22

    Sex offense law is unconstitutional

    • @smashthehammer5348
      @smashthehammer5348 7 місяців тому +2

      No it's not. Don't touch kids. That simple.

    • @ericmartinez5475
      @ericmartinez5475 7 місяців тому +1

      @@smashthehammer5348 don't need your service here so go touch a real woman we don't need your service here 😂

    • @WesternBlur
      @WesternBlur 7 місяців тому +2

      @@smashthehammer5348Don’t pee in a park either! Peeing behind a dumpster should be life in prison!

    • @smashthehammer5348
      @smashthehammer5348 7 місяців тому

      @@WesternBlur dumb comment. Parks have bathrooms. Troll comment. If you have to piss you have to piss. Nobody has to violate a kid. THe bible says to weight down pedos and toss them In water. Couldn't agree more. But taking piss if you gotta go is different. Your sounding like a pedo sympathizer. Or your one yourself? 🤔

    • @ericmartinez5475
      @ericmartinez5475 7 місяців тому +1

      😂​@@WesternBlur

  • @christopherkleinbach5237
    @christopherkleinbach5237 Рік тому +28

    If you say good morning to a disgruntled woman and she calls the cops and said you assaulted her your 🤬ed for the rest of your life this is the main reason good men ghost modern women.

    • @Jay-dq6vu
      @Jay-dq6vu Рік тому +2

      Now that is facts, straight facts. Watch out for them bums, cause if you got money and they don't you better watch out, lol.

    • @xxwickedtryhardxx1686
      @xxwickedtryhardxx1686 9 місяців тому

      ​@@Jay-dq6vu this is correct good sir my mother said it best women are the most evil and fault creatures all while stabbing her knifes deep into me 😢💔 I have had to grow up by self self cry by my self lift my self up by my self to accountability by my self pick my self back up by my self all while crying for love and help and understanding of life thanks mom I got the worst experience that no child deserved!

    • @AlanWangVideos
      @AlanWangVideos 6 днів тому +1

      I am a woman and I approve this message! I feel really bad for the men out there! Y'all do not have it fair. A woman can just scream rape and the guy's life is ruined forever!! She can coach her kid to lie and the courts turn their eyes. It's a witch hunt.

  • @ryansola796
    @ryansola796 2 роки тому +18

    I was put on the registry at age 12 and I was granted a stay in Wisconsin but Illinois said I need to register for 10 years as a juvenile sex offender at age 35

    • @JS-hg4vj
      @JS-hg4vj 2 роки тому +11

      Each State has different requirements and laws, I would possible challenge the fact that llinois is violating your civil rights and ex post facto law, sense your 1999 charge, didn't have same requirements as they are attempting to apply onto you now. Sounds like it is a new amendment law that they are attempting to apply to you. Either way best of luck.

    • @lonniectutt7129
      @lonniectutt7129 Рік тому

      @@JS-hg4vj stop letting the law brainwash.u. a police say u detained. But u never walk across the. Street. Don't uove.boy

    • @jamesbeemer7855
      @jamesbeemer7855 Рік тому +1

      Um , well , I don’t know Wisconsin law . But I do know some states are particularly vicious about sex offenders . And it was recently said to be unconstitutional in a state supreme courts . So these people are going to want to make as much money as possible while the getting is good . Reputation . Just be patient . It’s coming .

    • @jaydoll5936
      @jaydoll5936 3 місяці тому +1

      At 12?!? It should be against the law for children with incomplete brain development and impulsive decision making to be put on S.O registry like wth

  • @johnnyleeellis3836
    @johnnyleeellis3836 Рік тому +14

    I did 25 years this January,never failed to register,never had any felony convictions,and 6 weeks into my 25 year, they arrested me February 16 2023 for 31 charges supposedly for not reporting UA-cam,I just lost everything! They are keeping me in the system for nothing!!!! Highlands county fl!

    • @glennpark5704
      @glennpark5704 Рік тому +8

      Damn I know that feeling, Florida sucks they are the worst

    • @mustangtess
      @mustangtess Рік тому

      Florida goes to far. Violates many constitutional rights. Often it's the low level offences as well. They love keeping the jails full. It about money

    • @ericmartinez5475
      @ericmartinez5475 Рік тому +5

      That's messed up can't be happening 😭 I'm sorry for what happened. Thank you for sharing 🙏🏽.

    • @ericmartinez5475
      @ericmartinez5475 Рік тому +2

      OMG 😯😳

    • @burski23
      @burski23 Рік тому +2

      Holy shit

  • @RoadRunner-yu8cu
    @RoadRunner-yu8cu Рік тому +6

    What if the person was a tier 1, then moved to another state that didn't require them to register, has lived in that state for 18 years but their name is still on the registry in their conviction state for almost 30 years?

    • @Redd-v6q
      @Redd-v6q Рік тому +1

      I'm on tier 1 and I still in a relationship with the girl I got the charge on we have 2 kids together and married but I live in Dallas Texas I catch my charge in Louisiana...we are looking for another state to move to which u mind telling me which state u are referring to to not register? Please that would help me out...

  • @jm1stunnalove779
    @jm1stunnalove779 Рік тому +8

    I've been off the registry since 2012, and on march 28, 2023 got a knock on my door at 9:30 at night telling me I had 48 hours to register. How can a state override a judges removal of registering without a hearing or prior notification of even a review?

    • @jlagraba
      @jlagraba Рік тому +2

      That’s horse crap! I would of called a lawyer that morning. No way they can do that

    • @jm1stunnalove779
      @jm1stunnalove779 Рік тому +2

      Got a lawyer working on fighting it

    • @patricksosa3380
      @patricksosa3380 Рік тому

      @@jm1stunnalove779 how did it go

    • @jm1stunnalove779
      @jm1stunnalove779 Рік тому +2

      @Patrick Sosa as of right now I'm living in my car ,had to move out of my home & have to register once a month because I have no permanent address!

    • @TYBG85
      @TYBG85 Рік тому

      ​@@jm1stunnalove779 Jesus Christ. So I'm guessing after the knock on the door that morning your life has just been demolished a second time.
      I was in prison. I wasn't a s.o. but I just don't get how people thinking making sure S.O.s cant work or have a place to live is supposed to improve the situation or promote rehabilitation.

  • @mistiea7548
    @mistiea7548 2 роки тому +33

    I am a level 3 sex offender in the Silicon Valley
    I’m a level 3 due to “stipulation”
    The jist of my crime was i was a stupid 30 year old coming from a life of pure trauma I was immature in my mind back then I had sex with a 16 year old
    I did not understand the consequences of my actions
    But because of stipulations I’m a tier 3 lifelong registrar….
    This was a 1 & done offense
    I served my time but will forever be imprisoned because of the lifetime requirement
    I have 100% been rehabilitated
    What can I do about this?

    • @theviewchaser6718
      @theviewchaser6718 Рік тому +8

      God bless u i have been on psl for 14 years this law har ruined many lives so much for ameeican pride

    • @darinclarke3111
      @darinclarke3111 Рік тому +16

      join the fight to overthrow the registry

    • @Ncaa67
      @Ncaa67 Рік тому +8

      1 what you did was wrong. But so is a system without hope. I’m glad to hear about your rehabilitation. As you wait to somehow be absolved, don’t dwell on it. Think about how you should live and act normally ish. Be positive even though. Listen, your already on the register, if someone is looking they will know, most people are just too busy, also if you are a good rehabilitated person let people see that in your actions. I kind of think of it like a ghost walker in the movie After Earth. I don’t act scared just be normal and calm. Other than that I suggest the registration be extended to all crimes. I mean if everyone is so judgmental let it be. Why wouldn’t a person that wants to know about sex offenders want to know if they live next to a burglar, bank robber or killer. If we are going to throw stones let’s get a bucket! Done let it get you down anymore. Take it as a challenge to be the best whatever you want to be.

    • @darinclarke3111
      @darinclarke3111 Рік тому +1

      @@Ncaa67 we do not know the morality of the situation based off age of the actors, age cannot inform morality. the fact that murderers don't have to register is a reason to get rid of the registry not expand it, this thing leads to the 3rd reich... everyone who has had sex with teenagers isn't sick and in need of therapy

    • @darinclarke3111
      @darinclarke3111 Рік тому

      i'm sorry you have been wrongly brainwashed into thinking age informs morality...

  • @The-Ragnar-Lothbrok
    @The-Ragnar-Lothbrok 9 місяців тому +2

    Does the criminal record get expunged as well by this SB84 thing?

  • @charliestanley2749
    @charliestanley2749 Рік тому +6

    Why can't SB 384 be applied nationwide so as to inject some degree of common sense into the sex offender registry ?
    Changes are most certainly over due.

  • @thegoodfriendsnetwork
    @thegoodfriendsnetwork Рік тому +7

    That's still BS my dad case was on the statue would be a tier 1 but since the judge gave home life reg. He can't petition the court for removal even though he had a non violent crime.

  • @joschawil
    @joschawil Рік тому +8

    Type in the search bar how many signatures to petition to end the sex offender registry . You'll find 2 petitions. Sign both.

  • @readymadeit5746
    @readymadeit5746 2 роки тому +6

    Help.. I'm being railroaded in Indiana.I went from a 10 year registration to life because I moved to another state and then back to Indiana.I need help getting off this.I haven't had to register in this state since 2010...just put back on in 2022 by the sheriff's department.

    • @Ncaa67
      @Ncaa67 Рік тому +2

      That’s not adding up. Get a lawyer.

    • @rogerhatmaker4360
      @rogerhatmaker4360 Рік тому +2

      I live in the same state Indiana I went to Florida on vacation got arrested Florida said I felt to register as a sex offender but I was on vacation in didn't even live there since Florida arrested me in I moved back to Indiana I'm life time because Florida automatically life no matter what case but I'm only a 10 year register I got my case here so we should be under the law for 10 years not life time we need to hire civil lawyers meet up for a law suit together A.C.L.U of Indiana Kenneth fauk filled suit for the same case pretty much like ours

    • @kevinerbs2778
      @kevinerbs2778 Рік тому +1

      @@rogerhatmaker4360 I take it you stayed longer than 3 days in Florida?

    • @rogerhatmaker4360
      @rogerhatmaker4360 Рік тому +2

      I went to Florida on vacation they arrested me said I failed to register but I didn't live there arrested me on the spot said I was in Florida for 48 hours Indiana 72 hours but I shouldn't have to register in Florida if I didn't live there so I pulled 8 months in jail fighting my case try give me 3-5 years in prison I'm glad I did my home work last time I was in prison got in the law library in jail in beat my case now I was ten years here but under Florida I'm life now real talk now I can say I got the big mess to clear up never go to Florida true story

    • @stevendeleonardis9137
      @stevendeleonardis9137 Рік тому

      What did you do

  • @johnleonard6878
    @johnleonard6878 Рік тому +6

    All individuals who are placed on Megans it's because the law was retroactively applied, which is forbidden by the US Constitution. No law in the United States other than Megans is applied retroactively. States change laws/sentences or fines but they don't apply them retroactively.

    • @MikeCormack-q9i
      @MikeCormack-q9i 10 місяців тому +1

      It's been ruled in Indiana that the registry is considered punitive under the constitution. It failed the Martinez - Mendoza 7 step intent - effect test on 6 out of 7 of the steps. This decision was upheld by both the appeallate and Indiana Supreme Court. Thus, it cannot be applied retroactively. Look it up.

  • @spencerbrown6214
    @spencerbrown6214 Рік тому +3

    It’s hard for me to even imagine even 1 person wanting to sexually abuse a child but you’re talking about millions and millions of children being sold…Who on earth are all these creepy people wanting that kind of evil, dark, disturbing services!!!!!!! 😩😩😩😭😭😭
    GAWD, it’s got to be many of our friends, relatives, clergy, neighbors, and coworkers 😱😤🤮👿🤬🤬!!

  • @thomascooperhopewelljr109
    @thomascooperhopewelljr109 Рік тому +1

    In the state of New York how long does a person get for terroristic threats or torture. Please pass this on to Alvin Bragg for my polygraph and New York court.

  • @Johnleonard-w5z
    @Johnleonard-w5z 10 місяців тому

    In California Bill sb-384 is a crime-based system and when the DOJ determines an individual's tier level Thay don't consider an individual's risk level score. In Jan of 2022 judges will start using risk levels score at sentencing. to determine tier level. I would think this would open the door and require that all offenders risk level scores prior to 2022 be considered to determine a proper tier level.

  • @markpinal6708
    @markpinal6708 Рік тому +1

    I have many friend who are homeless and stuck on this law and will it work in all the states or just a few or just ONE

  • @luci-fer250
    @luci-fer250 Рік тому +2

    ive been in this delema since 92 (30 years) convicted in 87 (36 years) and i have been denied to be relieved from the duty to register
    and i am on disability so i can't afford an attorney

    • @Roni_1288
      @Roni_1288 Рік тому

      Convinced of what? Do you know of many people who recommit or continuously commit and never get caught? I'm just curious, seeing as you asked me previously how many I believe go on to do it again. I didn't realize you commented prior to your response to my comment. I realize it's personal, but seeing as you volunteered the information, I don't think it rude to ask.

    • @MikeCormack-q9i
      @MikeCormack-q9i 11 місяців тому

      The registry wasn't even around during those years. Why are you being required to register? That's a constitutional violation under the ex post facto law. You need to check that out!

    • @luci-fer250
      @luci-fer250 11 місяців тому

      because you have to meet a certain criteria
      and thats the way they want it
      they are trying to pass a law here to get permission to put a great big s on our license plates to show we are sex offenders@@MikeCormack-q9i

    • @Johnleonard-w5z
      @Johnleonard-w5z 10 місяців тому

      two offense's is T3

    • @luci-fer250
      @luci-fer250 10 місяців тому

      5%@@Roni_1288

  • @JohnB-uf7ft
    @JohnB-uf7ft Місяць тому

    Very screwed up country we live in. If you get relief from registration in the offending state after you fulfilled your registration obligation, places like Florida, Washington, and others can still impose a life long requirement despite having served their time. How is that remotely legal?

  • @kurtisroberts9375
    @kurtisroberts9375 10 місяців тому

    So they are not letting anyone off? And what's states?

  • @patriciogranados685
    @patriciogranados685 2 роки тому +7

    Wow is this in the USA or just some states?

    • @johnnyschaffer1971
      @johnnyschaffer1971 Рік тому +2

      This is in all of USA OR EVERY STATE

    • @Ncaa67
      @Ncaa67 Рік тому +1

      I think it’s just California but double check

    • @luci-fer250
      @luci-fer250 Рік тому +1

      @@Ncaa67 what have you been smokin its nation wide

  • @joschawil
    @joschawil Рік тому +1

    Do they need to get off,"Any law repugnant to the Constitution is null and void." 1803 5Us 137,161,167. Justice Marshall wrote this when he overturned the law enacted by Congress and signed by the President. He did so because a law must be held up to the standard of meeting the Constitutional requirements of equal justice under the law. No one has ever stood up for anyone on the registry, otherwise it wouldn't take an idiot like me to know how to Shepardize this citation. I dare anyone to find it having been overturned. Justice Msrshall, Marbury vs. Madison.

  • @davidh7799
    @davidh7799 Рік тому +1

    I guess tr3 is just Sol, and SB384 might as well not exist. But what about ex post facto and that the registry is a punishment?

  • @MiguelTorres-zu4rw
    @MiguelTorres-zu4rw Рік тому +2

    registry is completely unconstitutional, but this is America, so it is what it is...

  • @OG-Capo---
    @OG-Capo--- Рік тому +5

    It's funny how you can be a woman beater and walk away and getting other relationships and be fine with it.. You could be a murderer Nobody would even know.
    You can commit any crime and do anything and not be known for it but if you commit a sex crime You're a fucking celebrity.

    • @stevendeleonardis9137
      @stevendeleonardis9137 Рік тому +2

      This comment is false, arrest records are public information. Are you defending sexual predators?

    • @darinclarke3111
      @darinclarke3111 Рік тому +1

      @@stevendeleonardis9137 sexual predation is an evolutionary biological necessity, humans would have died out long ago without it. any man who has left his home to go to a bar or night club to seek a sexual partner is a sexual predator. it's a meaningless term

    • @nickdelaney6953
      @nickdelaney6953 Місяць тому

      ​@@stevendeleonardis9137 some states its not public records unless you get consent from the person

  • @marvinfalikovic4177
    @marvinfalikovic4177 Рік тому +2

    What if you are level 1 and live overseas? You are not automaticall removed. You need an attorney

  • @Ncaa67
    @Ncaa67 Рік тому +7

    Being a registered sex offender is not the end of your life you can still have a life but this law is a good thing because healing is is with forgiveness and it’s a way to heal further to believe in yourself but feeling like you’re not human so whoever thought of this they’re good people and it gives people hope and some of you who have given up hope don’t give up just stick with home and do your best and you actually need to do better than others you need to put a better face forward you need to be a better person And you can be that person I know it’s been a very long time for me

    • @johnnyschaffer1971
      @johnnyschaffer1971 Рік тому +3

      If anyone is on a registry that means that person can't get hired anywhere because every company does a background check and if that person has kids that person can't pick his or her kids up every weekend ..even if that person's kids are teenagers.

    • @CollinMac96
      @CollinMac96 Рік тому +1

      @brownincel6018they will absolutely check your paperwork! Just because they don’t go the official background check doesn’t mean they don’t do their own homework on you

    • @Ncaa67
      @Ncaa67 Рік тому +5

      @@johnnyschaffer1971 each situation is different, however if your offense was against you kids you I can see why you can’t pick them up on the weekends, as far as jobs are concerned, it is embarrassing to go to an employer and have the subject of your offense come up. Or at least I hope you are embarrassed. But be the first to bring it up. Let them know you are embarrassed and that’s why you don’t like to talk about it, then get away from the subject and talk about the job. Don’t be defensive and be honest. I’m afraid too when I have. But being true my brave is facing that fear. If you are not ashamed of what you did then I suggest you should seek help. I was required to years ago as I suspect you have been. Be open. Also, though there is no excuse for what you did, “Guilt is a matter of timing “ not to say the same stuff has been done by others , but every one has done something in their lives they shouldn’t, don’t hold that against them just know that you have worth just like every body else and that the mistakes we all make have a lesson. You have a task to set a better example and to forgive others ( not even in a religious was, but that’s ok too) so someday you can forgive yourself but don’t forget your humility don’t forget the lesson and know where you can get help when you need it. Good luck.

    • @brittanyritenour4695
      @brittanyritenour4695 Рік тому +1

      Are you on the registry, they don’t get much of a life due to people

    • @brittanyritenour4695
      @brittanyritenour4695 Рік тому

      @@johnnyschaffer1971 not true there are plenty of jobs that don’t due background checks

  • @bjwilliams5120
    @bjwilliams5120 Рік тому

    My conviction was in 1992 of 2nd degree sexual assault of a minor, did my time finished my parole and probation. It's been over 30 years ago. I felt I over paid my debt and would love to back what's left of my life back can you help me

    • @deku3i
      @deku3i 9 місяців тому

      You sexually assaulted a minor and want to “get what’s left of my life back” are you serious?

    • @smashthehammer5348
      @smashthehammer5348 7 місяців тому

      Yea. In the next lifetime stay away from kids. No sympathy.

  • @ericmartinez5475
    @ericmartinez5475 9 місяців тому +3

    ​@salvador8923 it is crazy how can the government still using and allowing to make us worse in the society is what I'm saying. Do you have anything to add.

  • @mikeytrysit5012
    @mikeytrysit5012 2 роки тому +3

    What about tier 3 people?

  • @stephenison5703
    @stephenison5703 Рік тому +7

    Thank you and I hope I get off the registry too because it's all heresy 💯🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @jamesbeemer7855
      @jamesbeemer7855 Рік тому

      And you challenged it , didn’t you ?
      Suicide !

  • @kayleighJeanH
    @kayleighJeanH Місяць тому

    As long as someone feels the effects of the trauma is as long as the offender deserves to be “inconvenienced”. You are not hero’s and you are not helping anyone

  • @_blew_a_fuse_7372
    @_blew_a_fuse_7372 Рік тому +5

    Regardless it's unconstitutional

    • @stevendeleonardis9137
      @stevendeleonardis9137 Рік тому +1

      Being put on a list for being a sexual predator is unconstitutional?

    • @darinclarke3111
      @darinclarke3111 Рік тому

      @@stevendeleonardis9137 it has become so. registrys in many states have been declared unconstitutional and as a result changed slightly to fly under the law

  • @JamesVestal-dz5qm
    @JamesVestal-dz5qm 4 місяці тому

    I did it by moving to Kansas and transferring the registration requirements to Dmitri.

  • @chrisedward7854
    @chrisedward7854 Рік тому

    What state?

  • @ChuloTheRedShark
    @ChuloTheRedShark 7 місяців тому

    If sex offender registry can be abolished, it could still remain the sex crimes while sex offenders can be rehabilitated and given unlimited chances. The answer is, we still don't know.

  • @thomascooperhopewelljr109
    @thomascooperhopewelljr109 Рік тому

    On October 27th 2017 can you find out my tax ID in my in my income 2:53

  • @jeranne7376
    @jeranne7376 Рік тому +1

    I have questions

  • @jermaineb3842
    @jermaineb3842 Рік тому

    I have to register as a sex offender. I caught my case in 2010 for groping a 49 year old woman in her breast. I touched her breast without permission and they charged me for sexual abuse in the first degree and now I had to register for 20 years, will there be a way to get off of the sex offender registry for the New Code

    • @AlanWangVideos
      @AlanWangVideos 6 днів тому

      Keep your hands to yourself... But I don't think you deserve to be punished for life... I am a woman and the same thing happened to me at a party. I never reported him because I could tell that he was remorseful. Why the hell punish somebody for an impulsive decision that they feel bad for... He never did it again... He was drinking and every time I would come around he would never drank. He was remorseful. People need to learn to forgive.

  • @davidshore3523
    @davidshore3523 6 місяців тому

    Why doesn't states like Indiana pass laws like this?

  • @thomascooperhopewelljr109
    @thomascooperhopewelljr109 Рік тому

    And if I'm 0 cm to all paragraphs were all written material on any screen worldwide for $0.25 per and you're using 0 cm to suffocate me should I sue. Srgb yellow 79 2:01

  • @Earthman99999
    @Earthman99999 2 роки тому +7

    This law is only for California, right?

    • @phanx0m924
      @phanx0m924 2 роки тому

      what did you do? you're in south carolina right?

  • @jlagraba
    @jlagraba Рік тому +1

    Why can’t drug offenses and dui registrations don’t exist?

    • @stevendeleonardis9137
      @stevendeleonardis9137 Рік тому +2

      Being a sex offender and getting caught with some marijuana or driving drunk is a little different

    • @deku3i
      @deku3i 9 місяців тому

      Imagine comparing a drug offense to a sexual offense 💀

    • @nickdelaney6953
      @nickdelaney6953 Місяць тому

      ​@@deku3i they are all dangerous

  • @romiemiller7876
    @romiemiller7876 Рік тому

    Somne offenders are not requireed to register at all in New Mexico. However, the atty gen has decided that many of those offenders have to register for life.

  • @romanstarrtattoos
    @romanstarrtattoos Рік тому +1

    Let's just do away with the registration altogether... I read a few comments from people saying they like sex offender because these people "are cool". I do not understand..

  • @ericmartinez5475
    @ericmartinez5475 Рік тому +2

    Thats still unconstitutional

  • @devindowtin
    @devindowtin Рік тому

    Reader,
    *I NEED SOME REAL HELP*
    I’m charged by the United States Air Force in 2016 with Article 120 sexual assault, abusive sexual contact against another adult over age 20. I was subject to 1 year imprisonment. I did no jail time. However, I’ve been ordered to register as a sex offender in the state if South Carolina placed in category tier II. The nature of my offense was touching of the buttocks through the clothing. Touching of the buttocks through the clothing with penis. And penetration of the vagina through the clothing with penis.
    I’m not here to convince the world that I’m a good person. I’m simply seeking legal help to have my record expunged.
    God bless 🙌🏾

  • @robertpriddy1808
    @robertpriddy1808 Рік тому

    I think if you have molested multiple kids and all the same kids over and over particularly one’s that don’t know how or have the mental capacity to say something , well you should be able to pass up prison and the registry and just get shot in the back of your head. I had a friend that went to go see his molester in prison years later and wanted answers and after he got the answers he got up went to the next booth grabbed the phone from the other person and told the other prisoner that guy over there molested many boys 15 years ago and gave the phone back and walked out 5 months later he got a letter in the mail and said his molester was killed.

    • @tomabuhl6190
      @tomabuhl6190 Рік тому

      Oh my God as much as I love hearing about a molester get killed that is the stupidest fucking lie I've ever heard

    • @Jay-dq6vu
      @Jay-dq6vu Рік тому

      Imagine being a 12 year old boy being forced into sex by a 15 year old girl then as time on you began u adjust and like it, why is that seemingly okay ?

  • @chefrico9400
    @chefrico9400 2 роки тому +1

    Can you help some 1 from jersey

    • @JS-hg4vj
      @JS-hg4vj 2 роки тому +1

      This law only applies in State of Californa. Not Jersey, you'll have to review Jersey law and their requirements in removal. I also requirement looking into 1983 civil lawsuits if there are amendments that are being apply to you unconstitutional that forcing you to remain on the registry. Talk to a sex offender specialist lawyer about that.

  • @jamesbeemer7855
    @jamesbeemer7855 Рік тому

    What state are you speaking from ?
    Because each state has its own rules . AND THEN THERE ARE THE RULES THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PUTS ON YOU .
    Um , I have a suggestion ; this is for the judges . (Please listen ) . If you believe that the Megan’s law is not a federal matter , but he was judged guilty , don’t register him federally . Please leave him the option . In Pennsylvania .

  • @thomascooperhopewelljr109
    @thomascooperhopewelljr109 Рік тому

    If you guys walked into a human's house and you find him drooling at the mouth or you find him unconscious or if you find him on a computer looking at somebody else's health. And inside those health records you looked at the you looked at all vowels of the and you were like wait a that's a penis. Would they have to surrender all devices including Apple heart chips or 3:39

  • @Jay-dq6vu
    @Jay-dq6vu Рік тому +1

    Lol thats not true, lol i was convicted never went to prison or did any more than 60 days and im on there for life. Loll even got hired at a school and the registry didn’t care and the school knew , but why cant i get off ? I worked at the school for well over 10 years i even told the students lol they were shook up a bit but they came around and it was back to business as usual. Fyi im a father of 3 and i have full custody of my kids.
    Everyone on there is not the same, i think someones pattern of behavior should determine their status not some other unrelated factors.
    They call me a teir 3 Lol but im living productively with my kids, wow im a bad man they say lol… only in America i swear…. Time for a great reset.. its about time…

    • @stevendeleonardis9137
      @stevendeleonardis9137 Рік тому

      What did you do

    • @Jay-dq6vu
      @Jay-dq6vu Рік тому

      @@stevendeleonardis9137 You mean what did they say I did, is the right question.

    • @Jay-dq6vu
      @Jay-dq6vu Рік тому

      @@stevendeleonardis9137 Trust me what I did does not make sense for the lifetime registration. Matter fact registration at all.
      Scenario 1
      Mr. Smith is in Walmart shopping, as he is walking with his headphones on, he is swinging his arms (that's Normal right?)
      So, as he makes his way down one isle. He stops to get an item but there is a cart in his way, so he has to reach for the item more towards the right of him, so as he reaches for the item a female walks in his blind spot. As he reaches, she walks toward his arm as it extends towards the item. The man's arm strikes the females breast as it was in direct line of fire. He apologizes and though it was all settled.
      That's all I can say you can figure out the rest.

  • @kamren-df7qc
    @kamren-df7qc 2 роки тому +4

    there’s no debt to say like the example he said child molestation 20 years and then you get to go free well the kid lives with it for the rest of their life’s

    • @EllaCBWalkersSpokeswoman
      @EllaCBWalkersSpokeswoman 2 роки тому +11

      How can sex offender registries be constitutional?
      I believe they are objectively clearly unconstitutional and the severity of punishment of being freed from prison but placed on the sex offender registry is far worse than the time actually spent in prison. They are unconstitutional for being “Cruel and Unusual Punishment”. They are unconstitutional for often being applied backwards in time and thus repeatedly add additional new punishments. They are unconstitutional for being based off know lies. They are unconstitutional because they frequently cause extremely harsh punishment upon those around a registered sex offender, like the spouse or child of a sex offender.
      Sex offenders can be subject to conditions like being made to live under a bridge with no shelter from the elements other than the overhead bridge, no running water and no electricity; conditions which would be illegal in any prison. They can face a technical violation for being late to an appointment, walking to close to some location they might not even know about, driving through a county which requires them to notify the local police before entering and leaving that county, for going to a library or church where it has been made illegal for them to go, for playing some online game like Dota 2 and failed to inform everyone in the game they are a sex offender, etc., etc. These laws change from city to city, county to county, state to state, and frequently change in time and there is no excuse for not knowing the law. Perhaps worse of all, if the sex offender is married with children, the children become free targets of abuse by society, the abuse of which is ignored. Such abuse done to the child of a sex offender would normally be considered a heinous continuous severe emotional abuse of a child over periods often in years and sometimes for a child entire childhood, yet such abuse becomes sanctioned by the government.
      There are real sex crimes that really happen for which people should be severely punished. But, the USA has gone into a sex crime hysteria that is very similar to the Spanish Inquisition or Salem Witch Trials. People get arrested and sentenced to harsh punishments over minor crimes, often where no one was injured, sometimes where no one but the perpetrator was involved, sometimes where children are just doing some sex play with other children, but it is now considered an extreme crime where once it was considered a healthy part of growing up.
      Did you know where the victims age is under 12 that almost 8% of the perpetrators are other children under 12 and that almost 38% of the perpetrators are under 18? A kid playing doctor or show me can end up convicted of a sex crime and registered as a sex criminal until 18 or longer. Teens are normally hit with a surge of hormones making them want to be more sexually active while at the same time often being naïve and confused about their sexuality, which often results in exploratory behavior that is not indicative of the rest of their life. Teens have been convicted of manufacturing and distributing child pornography because they too a sexually posed selfie and sent it over the phone to their boyfriend.
      It has become incredibly easy to convict someone of a sex crime. A misunderstanding involving a child can result in a child molestation conviction. A person can get convicted for looking at a web forum where adult sexual pictures are posted and some spurt of child porn gets sent into that forum and whoever is using that forum doesn’t report it, they can be convicted for not reporting it, even if they never saw the actual child porn. Parents have been convicted for taking a nude picture of their child in the bathtub. Some teenage girls have learned the power they have and wield it as a weapon, thus if some boyfriend or male they know pisses them off, they make a false claim of sexual harassment or rape. It has become the in thing for some people to claim they were abused 20 or 30 or 40 years ago, where the only evidence is them just now saying it happened, and people are being convicted over this. That is right, people are being convicted of sex crimes on the word of one person with no other evidence to support it. Accusing people of sex crimes in this manner has become a political weapon and a tool to gain money from the powerful and wealthy.
      Again, I do want to stress that real heinous sex crimes do occur. However, we have gone from the extreme of ignoring rape victims to convicting so easily that many innocent people are caught up and severely punished. When it comes to sex crimes against children, about 90% of the time the perpetrator is a member of the family or other close relative. Then the sex offender recidivism has been repeatedly lied about, stating it is extremely high when in fact it is one of the lowest of criminal recidivism rates as is shown below:
      Most Likely Case Recidivism for New Sex Crime: Error Margin : Time Period
      4.00% : (-2.66%; +6.00%) : from time of release thru end of life
      2.55% : (-2.16%; +5.16%) : after 1 year of no new sex crime thru end of life
      1.63% : (-1.51%; +4.32%) : after 2 years of no new sex crime thru end of life
      1.04% : (-1.00%; +3.55%) : after 3 years of no new sex crime thru end of life
      0.66% : (-0.65%; +2.87%) : after 4 years of no new sex crime thru end of life
      0.42% : (-0.42%; +2.30%) : after 5 years of no new sex crime thru end of life
      0.27% : (-0.27%; +1.83%) : after 6 years of no new sex crime thru end of life
      This is from an analysis of dozens of studies from 7 different states covering 56,006 released sex offenders and their recidivism for new sex crimes. By state the sex offender recidivism for a new sex crime is: Ohio (8.3%), Arizona (3.25%), Minnesota (10%), California (three studies 3.35%, 4.05% and when technical offenses were removed 1.34%), Washington (3.72%), Maine (5.10%), New York (2.10% which takes into account 25 studies).
      Even using the worst-case example centered around Minnesota’s higher value the figures end up being:
      Years from Release Worst Case Recidivism For New Sex Crime
      10% from time of release thru end of life
      7.71% after 1 year of no new sex crime thru end of life
      5.95% after 2 years of no new sex crime thru end of life
      4.59% after 3 years of no new sex crime thru end of life
      3.53% after 4 years of no new sex crime thru end of life
      2.72% after 5 years of no new sex crime thru end of life
      2.10% after 6 years of no new sex crime thru end of life
      1.62% after 7 years of no new sex crime thru end of life
      1.25% after 8 years of no new sex crime thru end of life
      0.96% after 9 years of no new sex crime thru end of life
      0.74% after 10 years of no new sex crime thru end of life
      For other sources not in this analysis the values are: Colorado (2.61%), Connecticut (2.7%), Indiana (1.05%), Iowa (3.23%), Tennessee (3.5% rapists & 4.7% statutory rapists), Michigan (2.5%), Australian Broadhurst and Maller Study 1992 (8.4%), Australian Broadhurst and Loh Study 1997 (9.4%), Florida Levenson & Shields 2012 (5.2% & 13.7%), Virginia 2005 (8.17% & 3.6%).
      These values are relevant for all types of sex offenders and if you pay attention to the pattern, which holds for all criminal types, the risk of recidivating for a new crime decreases the longer an ex-convict is out without having committed a new crime. If you combine these fact together, then the whole “Stranger Danger” sex offender risk is a massive fabrication. Yes, it does happen, rarely, and when it does happen it makes big news. But more than 90% of sex offender never re-offend with a new sex crime and of those who do re-offend, if a child is involved then it is 90% likely they are a close family member to the child, not a stranger.
      Add on to this the harshness and length of the sex offender registration, which has become a harsher punishment than prison time and in many cases ends up being for 20 years, 30 years or life. Of the close to 900,000 registeres sex offenders, a great many of them try to move on with their lives and then the punishment directed at them also ends up punishing their spouses and children. Did you know that hundreds of thousands of children are suffering terribly because of the social punishment that gets directed at them for being the child of a registered sex offender?

    • @mistiea7548
      @mistiea7548 2 роки тому +3

      Everything you said is so true
      Thank you for your knowledge I appreciate you

    • @mistiea7548
      @mistiea7548 2 роки тому +8

      As adults We all relive our childhoods in our minds over n over
      Why are sex offenders treated as lepers
      Sex offenders can be rehabilitated
      It’s unfair to put all sex offenders under the same umbrella
      Child killers child rapers n molesters are heinous criminals yes but the sex offender laws are a hot mess n the most dangerous of all sex offenders are the ones who haven’t been caught or are to powerful for consequences
      Sex offender registration is unfair

    • @pocu321
      @pocu321 Рік тому +5

      If he 'shouldn't go free', then why is he walking around outside of a prison? You either complete a sentence or you don't. As it stands, the registration keeps people in an incomplete sentence status even if the convicted marries his wife whose parents had him prosecuted for dating while 17. If he slips up with the Simon Says stipulations of the registration, he gets to go back to prison to provide free labor to the state for profit which is part of the goal.

    • @EllaCBWalkersSpokeswoman
      @EllaCBWalkersSpokeswoman Рік тому +3

      @@pocu321 exactly the point, American criminal system is backwards

  • @smashthehammer5348
    @smashthehammer5348 7 місяців тому +1

    Screw this. You touch a kid or anything involving children or rape you need to be on the registry for life. And no legal guns for you. You really should be in prison for life. Its an unforgivable crime. They are KIDS. If you go after minors you are ALWAYS be a risk. A threat. Yo see anyone wanting this registry go away makes me SICK

    • @smashthehammer5348
      @smashthehammer5348 7 місяців тому

      @IndianCurrycel doesn't matter. If you touch a kid you deserv3 life in prison so there is )0 percent chance of reoffending

    • @smashthehammer5348
      @smashthehammer5348 7 місяців тому +1

      @IndianCurrycel and? Doesn't make it ok or any better. A sex crime is a sex crime. Doesn't matter.

    • @SoulGasmProd
      @SoulGasmProd 2 місяці тому

      Go cry somewhere else, you take a life too seriously. We should pass the law where people with dumb ideas have to register, so the public knows whose opinions are irrelevant, like yours

  • @brittanymichelle8699
    @brittanymichelle8699 2 роки тому +1

    I was

  • @glennpark5704
    @glennpark5704 Рік тому

    Ok so I'm a level 2 and have been on the registry since 1999 so I qualify

    • @henrymiranda1440
      @henrymiranda1440 9 місяців тому

      You can file a petition to terminate your duty to register. to the superior court of the county you live in. Form CR-415.
      Your petition should include
      • Form CR-415
      • Your original case number or full court report
      • your current proof of registration, that’s usually four pages.
      Serve your petition to the Superior Court in the county you’re registered in. Have them make a copy, deliver one copy of your petition to the DAs office in the same county, and one copy to the law-enforcement agency that you register through.
      If your conviction is in another county, other than where you register, you’re also have to deliver a copy of the petition to the DAs office in that county, and also to the arresting agency that handled the investigation of your case.
      Once that process is completed, you’ll have to fill out form CR-416 which is proof of service. Take that copy back to the Superior Court in your county and the process is completed. Within 2 to 4 months you’ll receive a copy of form CR-418 from the court informing you if your petition has been granted or denied

  • @thomascooperhopewelljr109
    @thomascooperhopewelljr109 Рік тому

    Is it a sex offense to loop a digital human through his ears eyes and nose an ecstasy pill labeled CDC 2:11 😊

  • @Roni_1288
    @Roni_1288 Рік тому +2

    Not a risk! Please! How many go on to do it again? They don't learn from their mistakes they learn how to better get away with it!

    • @luci-fer250
      @luci-fer250 Рік тому

      how many do you think do it again

    • @Roni_1288
      @Roni_1288 Рік тому

      @@luci-fer250 All

    • @MikeCormack-q9i
      @MikeCormack-q9i 11 місяців тому +1

      Sex offenses statistically have the lowest recidivism rate of any crime.

    • @Roni_1288
      @Roni_1288 11 місяців тому +1

      @user-en8wd7bw4l Lowest because victims don't report their abusers not because the perpetrator suddenly are changed law-abiding citizens!

    • @MikeCormack-q9i
      @MikeCormack-q9i 10 місяців тому +1

      @@luci-fer250 1.4%. That's how many.

  • @luci-fer250
    @luci-fer250 11 місяців тому

    i dont have a teir level but if they was to give me one i would be a teir 1

  • @nickdelaney6953
    @nickdelaney6953 9 місяців тому +2

    Abolish the registry

  • @alexlaborde385
    @alexlaborde385 2 роки тому +11

    the victim suffers for life but the sicko gets to forget about it ,nice.

    • @JS-hg4vj
      @JS-hg4vj 2 роки тому +19

      Seems you are very clueless. Anyone can end up on the Sex offender registry, in some states urinating or skinny dipping can cause you to register, teenagers having a relationship or sexting can end up on the sex offender registry. Majority of sex offenses are not what we all think when we hear the term. Roughly 25% of people on S.O.R are Juveniles, children doing acts against other children. Even Youth adults at a bar or college who slap a girl on their rear can end up on sex offender registry. Sex offender registry is very board and isn't narrow, not everyone on the registry has a victim and not everyone victim is a true victim either for example statutory rape, relationship between a adult and a teenager four years apart. Keep that in mind that people are not monsters or sickos because of their past, but humans who made a mistake in their life's. Anyone can end up on sex offender registry but it should not define who they are.

    • @JS-hg4vj
      @JS-hg4vj 2 роки тому +10

      @@alexlaborde385 Sounds like your a story teller, I did some research on your claim and it can not be verified. PA also require those who committed violent sexual offenses to register for "LIFE". Not sure why you are looking over your shoulder, statics shows that recidivism rate are extremely low and research shows that it is those who aren't on the registry committing violent and sexual offenses. Your more safer hanging out alone with someone on the registry list then hanging out with your teacher or coach. over 80% of cases of sexual offenses come from someone they know, keep that in mind.

    • @JS-hg4vj
      @JS-hg4vj 2 роки тому +6

      @@alexlaborde385 I am very confused about your statement, so your saying the individual you been with for 20 plus years is making the claim of some type of violent sexual offense that occur, where the individual was on the registry but some how vanish from the registry list despite the fact there is no merit of this claim. Did I summarize it correctly? Only time I've seen someone who wasn't require register on the S.O.R after a sexual offense are police officers, for example TN Memphis police officer raped a little girl over several months period and wasn't require to be placed on the registry but children at the age of 7 in some states are place on the registry. Seems to me that we have a fail S.O.R system, where it doesn't work for you either if what you are saying is true. Which is more reason why you should be supporting the removal of sex offenders because it simply doesn't bring any one justices. Those we think should be on it are not, and those who are on it shouldn't be. Do you think a 7 year old kid should have to be on the sex offender registry yet in your case a grown man some how vanishes from the registry?

    • @Mr.CEO888
      @Mr.CEO888 2 роки тому +4

      I agree some people may do belong to be watched for life but not all

    • @Joshallenbigballs
      @Joshallenbigballs 2 роки тому +2

      @@alexlaborde385 she lied to you

  • @kavijackson868
    @kavijackson868 9 місяців тому

    It's your birthday!? Wow, gangstalking look it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @stevendeleonardis9137
    @stevendeleonardis9137 Рік тому +4

    This comment section is full of sexual predators trying to excuse their evil actions.

    • @darinclarke3111
      @darinclarke3111 Рік тому

      call homeland security....

    • @deku3i
      @deku3i 9 місяців тому

      fr it’s disgusting

  • @DavidHolden-m9b
    @DavidHolden-m9b 2 місяці тому

    I turned myself into the police for something I did while high on meth they could of took me to church instead they ruined my life

  • @sacpyro
    @sacpyro 3 місяці тому

    why help a sex offender to begin with

    • @SoulGasmProd
      @SoulGasmProd 2 місяці тому

      Because they’re living breathing beings in the flesh that have god given rights and constitutional rights, the SOR goes against that. Also you don’t even know them or what they were convicted of, you have zero facts besides an inaccurate representation of them online and you just eat it up. Talk about having a low IQ