Damaged Caterpillar Engine Struggles In Pennsylvania Mountains
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- Опубліковано 22 кві 2024
- Orwell isn't running right. And I do not know what is wrong, or how bad it is.
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Air fuel ratio diaphragm is blown. Pull over and pull the small cap off with the line that’s going to the intake. Start stacking dimes in that cap till your power comes back. It’s a temporary fix till you get the diaphragm fixed.
Yeah what he said
Like others said… air/fuel diaphragm. Second thing I’d check, after double checking the aftercooler job. Mine acted up once and it ended up being a broken weight in the timing advance (that cone piece that hangs out of the front cover in front of the injection pump). Read the book carefully if you have to repair it! Had mine off a little and had fire blowing out the stack! Lol
Oil pressure and overheating are not the only things when it comes to engine damage, high exhaust gas temperature can easily melt down pistons.
I run a b model and had a low power issue turned out to be the fuel air ratio valve. Just needed a o ring and diaphragm. Runs good now
Take th screws out of the injector pump and put them in your pocket, take a look at the transfer pump. DR
Block that fuel/air ratio to. DR
Fuel return
Look at the bright side Steve ,the computer did'nt shut you down
Yes, but with a newer truck he'd have a friendly Check Engine light to tell him when he's having issues. 😂
@@dvone4124 See..this is what happens when you are trying to drive 50-year-old JUNK. All your sweat, blood, tears, money and labor continually keep going into keeping the JUNK operating. However, you can't tell Steve that. In addition, try having an actual FUEL GUAGE that WORKS and is ACCURATE. Who drives a TRUCK with NO working speedometer?! I can't understand how that is even LEGAL. I do not want to sound like an a$$hat here but I have to make certain MY truck is LEGAL to operate and everything is working/operating properly. How does Steve get a pass operating that piece of sh** where the main gauges do not work and do NOT light up at night when using the headlights? How is THIS LEGAL??
@@dvone4124 ya and 9.5mpg lmao. 😂
This truck doesn’t have a stupid computer ALL MECHANICAL
@@dvone4124yes but doesn’t that idiot light, when it comes on, just give a warning of 10 to 90 seconds before the on board computer just shuts you down, and God forbid, if you are lucky enough to get the engine started, you either get a “ limp mode” that gives reduced speed and power.... or..... it shuts you down altogether which is a real pain in the ass, now you have to get authorized roadside assistance or a wrecker, or maybe both just to get it off of the road.
Governor is what controls the rack that opens and closes the spill ports. Your throttle pedal just controls how far governor can open or closes to control RPM. Biggest issue with Governor and timing advance they wear little arms off the weights that also ride on thrust bearings They truly should be gone through every 2 years with amount of miles you put on. I've seen many runaway because governor weights worn off letting them swing out letting engine do all RPM it can do. If you think sticking a board over turbo inlet with engine screaming is not fun did it once. I got chewed out for doing this because engine could have come apart with me standing there. Pulling intake boot with engine screaming almost impossible. But in the end engine was hurt from running away. We do stand by with board after having injection pump apart "too catch engine if it tried to runaway". Don't use a book it will suck it in and eat it seen that happen once.
Orwell is a great old man. He's just having a little rheumatoid arthritis in all that damp weather. Be gentle and keep an eye on your buddy and you will make it home. I'm not trying to spend your money for you. But, I think you should definitely let Dr. Caterpillar have a look once you get home. Port Jarvis isn't the "" Rockies "", but it's a decent climb with a nice view. Except when you're busy looking at gauges and listening to your engine. Safe travels and God bless you!
It kind of makes you appreciate the old truckers and trucks with 250 HP and a 5&4 transmission.....it was probably a day from hell most of the time through those mountains....
Hey Steve! Faith can move mountains...look out Orwell got his zoom zoom gone wacky! ❤😂
Great video Steve really enjoy all the different camera angles and your commentary and the music. Looking forward to finding out what went wrong with Orwell.
Got my popcorn 🍿 I'm ready 🍿
Just had the intercooler off. Popped an air tube clamp. Not gonna second guess you, but stopped for fuel I would have poked my head under to see if anything was off.
Wouldn't that take it down to almost zero power immediately?
Orwell doesn’t run an inter cooler, intake boots or clamps. I thought the same thing about popping a boot. But then remembered, as I have the same engine in my hobby truck, there are no boots.
@@ampatriot I mean really no power. When I had a boot come off a C15 I couldn't even go 30 mph with an empty trailer
Keep it up FSC Trucking keep the Rubber on pavement and chug along your videos are so insightful into the life of an owner operator and with Orwell even though he is Cabover we don't normally see these trucks on the roads as often when they were still on the roads. Keep it up
Saw a Freightliner and an International cabover on the interstate in the past week.
@@jaygraham5407hey there are 2 freightliner cab overs in Matheson Colorado that are up for auction this Saturday. 1 is 1973 the other is a 1976
Man it sounded like our old Olds Delta 88 5.7 diesel right before the injection pump took a dump.
As others have said check afrc , when I worked at a peterbilt dealer I used to change them on a regular basis. The engines rated at 310 hp used a block off plate instead of a afrc, not a bad idea to get one and carry with you,easy swap if you have problems on road.
This is the last time I watch your videos with my wife. She keeps yelling..limp mode..limp mode..limp mode
That’s what she says in bed. 😂😂😂 jk
Maybe she was watching the video, but was referring to you? That is not good! Just saying…… women are hard to figure out, they speak in “code” of some kind.
Why did my comment get deleted
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I always enjoy watching Orwell roll coal... stay safe out there steve!
Orwell needed high altitude fuel ,ha , ha.
Maybe aviation fuel would have helped 😂@@nelsonhaley9580
Glad you fixed it!! Slick move at the pump 😂 very cool! Weather sucked
Love the Orwell Vids
My dad tried to help me with rebuilding my 428 Cobra Jet. He put the distributor in 180 off and burnt his beard and eyebrows off when it backfired. I could help myself laughing so hard at the sight!
at least the distributor is in the front. A bit easier to pull back out unlike my 427 BBC🤪
Orwell is 40 years old Big Guy, and like they say there's going to be the odd furball coming through there from time to time. Would far rather have a mechanical limp mode than a computer driven one. Simple is best.
My first thought it was your turbo.
I love these old cab overs!!!
Nice woke up just in time for a great vid.
I had issues like this on 425 cat it was the screen on Injection pump.
Nice to see another video.
Good job steve
I know that hill on I-84 Eastbound past Port Jervis, NY is like 5% for 4-5 miles a tough pull even for a loaded truck in top shape, slowing them down to crawling speed. At the top is a brake check and nice view point (also one Westbound too) where almost all trucks pull over to do a brake check but also give their engines a break. I hope Orwell made it up !
In my experience with learning from a mechanic about engines, it always takes two sets of eyes to reveal what the real problem is and then be able to tackle it because not everybody is right about everything and I know my vehicle better then anyone because I'm willing to learn things I don't know or can't figure out and it sounds like you are chasing a problem I'm betting you'll catch once you get under Orwell.
Found your channel from the Gentry video. I live about 30 minutes north of the 81/380 split. Hope you enjoyed our "great" PA roads LOL
Enjoyed the video.
Orwell will not die!!
I feel your pain. I struggled with a 550 Detroit for years before figuring out the problem.
That sucks. I know that frustration. The first new car that I bought developed a loud noise like a bang, but only did it on left hand turns. The dealer did everything imaginable to cure this noise to the point they hated to see me walk through their door. It was nothing to drop the car off at the dealer for an oil change, and find it with the wheels off, the axles out and the gears and bearings all over the bench. Got it back, and it started again after 25 miles. I finally made enough noise, a company rep came from the plant, and when I picked the car up, the dealer was closed. It seemed perfect the next morning when I went to work. And got half way home from work, and BANG!. Straight to the dealer I went, and asked what the company rep had to say. They told me that the differential was taken apart and all clearances, and gear lash was checked reassembled. Then they told me all the places that it was test driven and there were no noises.(approximately 40 miles.)they were literally hiding in their offices and wouldn’t come out. My Dad had picked the car up from the dealer, and they spun the same story on him. The problem that arisen this time was that I had recorded the mileage when I dropped the car off, and there was only 5 miles more on the odometer when I got in the car, home was 5 miles from the dealer. So now the dealer was pissing around for 8 months with this problem. Excuses ranged all the way from “it’s normal, to, why are you the only one having this problem. So, not a happy camper. Us car jockeys hung around this small family run gas station/service centre. I was still irritated about the recent confrontation over at the dealer. The mechanic at the service had me put the car on the hoist and then go sit in the office. Within 3 minutes he was backing the car out of the bay, and charged me a dollar for the repair. The cause of the problem: the trailing arms holding the axle bolts were not drawn up tight ... bolt was tight to the hanger, but didn’t tighten the hanger up to the trailing arm resulting in the arm sliding about an inch thus causing the noise. The noise never returned.
A new truck had been standing on the road undriveable, but Orwell pushes on at half power ❤❤❤
Hay buddy good luck with Orwell
I had the linkage slip on the shaft by the engine and the power went to heck. quite similar to what Orwell is doing. It may not be, but it is something to look at.
Last video my initial gut reaction was the turbo, either shot bearings or gunked up. You'd pointed out in another video that the turbo was sticky and you were trying some additive to remedy it. Then I remembered these videos are in almost a random order over a 4 month stretch so who knows if that other video was before or after this series.
How it going Steve,
my big cam 3 Cummins engine done that back in the day, I would let it idle and then it would have all the fuel pressure again and what I found out on the section hose from the tank I took it off and a bunch of debris was coming out of the tank plugging the hose up , I pulled the filters put new filters She had all it's power back
Good luck Steve
Orwells kitty was coughing up hairballs. Just needed a dose of marvel mystery oil and power services additives to flush out kittys hairballs 😅😊😂
Hi Steve . My dad's 2001 dodge ram 3500 with the 24 valve Cummins and we were up in the san Bernardino County mountains here in southern California we were heading to big Baer and his turbo took a dump and it lost instant power to so check your turbo to see if the impeller shaft has excessive play his had a lot of play so i hope this information will help you. Stay safe and keep on trucking im a big cab over from southern California aka the anti diesel state
I know how you feel. I get the same feeling when something goes amiss with one of my vehicles when I am driving it. I just need to stop somewhere and try to figure it out. Even if I don't figure it out I for some reason feel better knowing what it isn't .
Them be Orwell killin' Hills!
That reminds me of my days running 238 Detroit's. Slow up hills and constant shifting.
Hey Steve, at one point you said something about having fuel, do you have a vacuum gauge on your fuel system?
Steve! When you mulled over everything you did with the Agter Cooler replacement work near the end of this specific video, it seemed like you forgot about the fact that you said you forgot to reconnect one particular wire in the prior video ir the second prior video. What was the function of the wire that you apparently forgot to re-install in its specific spot in the circuit that it belongs. From this piint in time back towards the end of February, Orwell's wire could've been the equivalent of inadvertently causing the back window circuit in your dad's 89 Suburban to short out when you re-instslled the emergency brake pedal when you were 14 years old.
I do have a question that you or my fellow subscrbers could answer for me: does the Cat 3406-B motor have any vacum lines for the manual transmission like the gas powered 4 wheelers with manual transmissions? I ask this because of a similar situation that I once encountered with the 79 Toyota Corolla, a with a 1.6L 2TC 4 banger with a 4 speed manual transmission. I was driving up the eastbound side of a mountain (steeper grade than that of the Cajon Pass's summit on the I-15, which is like 6%) where the CA-138 meets the norther border of the CA-2 (I call it the Wrightwood California cutoff for the ski bunnies from the south side of our San Gabriel Mountain range) and I suddenly lost power. I dropped the transmission into second gear from third gear and limped up the mountain @ 20MPH. After I crested the summit/Wrightwood Cutoff (my idea) and made it to "level flat land," I still couldn't drive more than 20MPH. It turns out that a big vaccum line popped off my carburetor or the aircleaner. This vacuum line connected to the crankcase portion of the engine block or oil pan (I forgot which spot). All I know, the re-installing of a vaccum line that I didn't know to exist on an engine (when I was 22) solved the lack of power problem on that day in 1995. Orwell's lack of power issue on this day back in late February 2024 reminded me of my experience that I mentioned. Was my incident in 1995 just a Grannysmith and Red Delicious Apple coincidence?
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I'm guessing a fuel quality issue. Either gummy fuel or contaminated fuel or possibly a case of green slime.
*Steve:* Come on, Orwell! You can do it!
*Me, imagining Rob Schneider in Water Boy:* "You can do it!"
If I remember right, he put some kind of cleaner in the tanks. Plugged fuel filters?
23:40 white cabover 🤩
High probably the boost reference seal went and it'd not showing boost sonics not opening the rack up.
There should be an "O" ring on the primer pump on that 3406-B . I had one of those years ago and it was sometimes the culprit for fuel starvation .
It might be the boot goes from the air air to the turbo. I had an old freightliner did the exact same thing and the strap for the boot popped off.
Mmm rockin my dream truck
Fuel filters or turbo
I"m thinking boost leak... blew a boot off or something (2min in watching so I'm straight up guessin) See if I'm right at a later time!
@@cigarsgunsandgasoline8032that's what I was thinking also
I was thinking turbo as well
It’s the blinker fluid pump
I had this issue on my 1990 k100. It actually was an easy fix but a difficult diagnosis. I took it to the cat shop. And after some checks they determined it was the diaphragm. Took it on the road less then a mile lost power again. Took it back. It ended up being the fuel diverter in the primer valve. It would roll to the open position and loose all fuel pressure. I know yours is not as bad but it’s a 60$ fix. I’d also replace the diaphragm if able.
Loved the jake brake action
Me 2
He doesn’t even have a Jake switch on his throttle. Legend in his own mind. Lol
@@elainecessna929 and what the hell is the switch on the dash for?? Manual on and manual off... its a manually activated jake system
@@biglair8071 I am sorry for popping in your cereal. Switch on throttle so it activates when foot is off throttle. Switch on dash is on off switch
Man steve! Sorry about poor Orwell having these issues! Still, atleast you can do repairs, while them newer trucks just aren't as friendly towards that!
I ran my old Freightliner out of fuel crossing Donner on 80 East bound. Thought we could get to Reno for cheaper fuel. The little fuel I had gathered at the back of the tanks away from the pickups on the mountain. And there we sat.🤦
Yeah then there's that long climb past Boomtown before you get into town. Then can get bad depending on time of year too.
Algea in the tank?
Primary fuel filter?
Coroded fuel lines? Blank particles in the fuel filter?
@14:22 you just passed the exit for Cleveland Brothers Cat. Lol
Sad when army truck passes you. needs air
That Army truck is running a Detroit 8V92. They have decent power.
Your gonna wear those jake switches out!!
Freightliner cabover at the 23 : 02 minute mark sitting at the fuel aisle at pump number 3.
I had an A model Cat and it did the same thing, turned out to be the air fuel ratio valve diafram. Don’t know if a B model has the same setup on the pump but I’m only 16 minutes into the video
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Your always near my house right off I 80 1st exiting Pennsylvania from the Ohio line ,Hubbard ohio, old orewell just tried
Hey Steve I enjoy your videos
Hope it’s nothing to serious with Orwell
Hi, just a thought, your throttle is a cable ?, if so when the peddle is to the metal is the throttle lever hitting the max stop as this will give you the same lack of power if it is not quite on the stop.
Thanks for a great channel.
I run alot of lucus ,and howes in my truck year round
When did you start running a dpf filter
Orewell just didn't want to work that day and was mad he had to
Check the priming pump. I have a 4MG that did that, and it ended up being the check valves in the priming pump. Over time they can get loose and turn in the bores, restricting or cutting off fuel completely. Takes 5 minutes and can save a lot of money.. If one or both are loose, just take it out. An easy check before firing the parts cannon.
He did a Control/Alt/Delete and rebooted Orwell. 😂
No not a control alt delete it was a defrag lmao
I was thinking maybe give Mr. Rob Smith a call
Good evening brother
As long as there are no death noises, steam or smoke, it's minor. I had a B Model and she would keep going.
At least you can't get a speeding ticket!! lol . . .
I had a DD15 fall on its face years ago, even Detroit couldn't figure out what was wrong with it. Freightliner sent engine logs to Detroit's engineers who responded 6 hours later with, "we're not sure what's wrong." Ended up reflashing the ecm.
partly plug fuel filter, or bad filter restricting flow
Did you ever figure out what caused this? Did it ever do it again? Love watching your videos
Just working on something this old disturbing the motor things just decide to go so just replace what ever goes truck is worth it
You said the same thing I was thinking half ton 🛻 pickup pulling trailer with sprinter van too much weight for that pickup .wreck looking for place to happen😮❤.
Orwell's just jealous of you spending so much time with Rooster and rear of the trucks ar MATS
My first thought was fuel filter as thats what happened with a Detroit 60 Series 14L in a FL Columbia when it lost power🤔
I hope Orwell gets better soon, Steve. Let’s figured out what is happening with this big guy. 🌹
Get a hold of Josh at Adept Ape.
2 years experience tanker but i want start haul heavy some advice..
how did he do on greenville mountain in port jervis ? that's where i live that mountain claims alot of trucks i travel 84 on a daily basis and see quite a few truck broke down pulling the mountain
Don't be sick Orwell. 😢
I wonder if the turbo wastegate is stuck partially open, it had power down low at low speed but at highway speeds where you need higher boost its not keeping up. normally we can hear turbo in the mic and im not hearing much of it. im also purely speculating.
No waste gate on the turbo
It's the little rubber boot behind the pump won't let the rack go
Similar symptoms on my 3406e and the turbo clamp was broke
hope you figure orwell out please keeps us all update
Steve is keeping us in suspense.....as to what the problem is....
Check out your all air hose
The boost pressure switch gave out
U have gauges that work ?
Hey at least Orwell's engine still sounds good and mean like.. even with out a turbo.
Boost hose
Fuel pick up tube going to pump maybe clogging up