Huion Kamvas 16 Pro (2.5k) vs XP-Pen Artist 15.6 Pro [Drawing tablet review]

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  • @takeonjapan7992
    @takeonjapan7992 Рік тому +604

    even the review comes with free shipping!

  • @ItsFizzhead
    @ItsFizzhead 8 місяців тому +169

    OMG you writing an entire backstory for your ship of the two companies' mascots is so unhinged and hilarious 🤣

  • @indecisive-fan
    @indecisive-fan Рік тому +191

    Shipping random characters and brands/inanimate objects is such a mood 😆 honestly your headcanons made my day, im glad you included them in the vid hehe!! Rn not in the market for a new tablet since I just got myself one for christmas but I came and stayed for the mascot bishounen redraw 😁😁 such nice drawings!!

  • @jeri3278
    @jeri3278 Рік тому +78

    THE LOVE STORY ASPECT HAS ME DYINGG i love that so much omg and the names are nice too

  • @lazulianwater
    @lazulianwater Рік тому +75

    Ahahahahah from the VERY start of the video when you pointed to the box design said “these designs are kinda opposite of each other…hmm….” Girl I knew EXACTLY where you were going with that. Also you listing those ao3 tags and pairings and headcannon ARE YOU ME. (Also thank you for making a very nice and detailed review about the tablets 😂😂)

  • @kinchip.
    @kinchip. Рік тому +27

    Im loving the overall story to ship these two companies AHAH This review is honestly very helpful too!
    But the shipping is seriously my favorite

    • @koiifsh
      @koiifsh 11 місяців тому +1

      kinchip ⁉️⁉️ hi i love ur art

  • @Flyyyyy-
    @Flyyyyy- Рік тому +55

    Great video. I love these comparison reviews, especially with competing models.
    XPPen should send you an Artist Pro 16 (Gen2) to test too, as it also has a 2.5K resolution. Many artists are saying that this new Pen Display is a huge evolution of the XPPen, it would be great to see it side-by-side compared to this Huion!

    • @luvoverthewall
      @luvoverthewall Рік тому +16

      Artist pro 16 gen2 definitely would've been a more fair comparison

  • @luckieangelz
    @luckieangelz Рік тому +38

    watching this helps me figure if i actually want to get the Huion Kamvas 16 pro! i used one a while back as my friend lent me it for a time. it is definitely a game changer from going from a Wacom intuos draw small to an actual pen display! personally the feel of the tablet is very nice, and is a pretty smooth easy tablet to draw on as someone who has never used a pen display before! [thank you for making this video!!! you are slowly becoming a channel i really enjoy watching, i feel very informed now on this tablet!]

    • @XiaoIsMyHusbandBTW
      @XiaoIsMyHusbandBTW 2 місяці тому

      how smooth is it? I would like to get one but smoothness plays a roll for me. I don't like it butter smooth, i need some resistance or i don't feel like i'm drawing

  • @ETERNALGHXST
    @ETERNALGHXST Рік тому +12

    I love this dynamic oh my god 😭

  • @vhite650
    @vhite650 9 місяців тому +3

    I love both art and review, redesign of mascots are absolutely perfect!
    Im going to get exact xp-pen tablet soon because my Kamvas 22 is too big for traveling, and after seeing this vid i can't wait to check it out

  • @chiefster
    @chiefster Рік тому +7

    Thank you for this review. Well made, ample information, and it helped that you're a great artist and able to showcase each competitor's capabilities using your experience (even if the products showcased are new to you, you proved how fast you can acclimate to each one).
    The Huion takes the cake for me, even though the price makes my wallet cry.

  • @alystar97
    @alystar97 Рік тому +16

    6:33 i have the huion one, got it refurbished on amazon, the best damn thing ever, i did notice everything on clip studio seemed smaller, idk about mac but on windows you can set the displayed to be zoomed, i felt 125% was perfect and could see the buttons better and still had plently of space for drawing without compromising the quality, also, i would recommend switching to the felt tips (the lil gray ones on the lil donut) the listing says the huion tablet is already laminated, but i feel a lot safer with a softer felt tip i feel like it wont scratch that much, keep in mind to wipe the screen before use as if it has dust it can accumulate on the nib

    • @Khn_2102
      @Khn_2102 Рік тому

      How much is the refurbished one cost?

    • @aribuwu
      @aribuwu 11 місяців тому

      Hey! Do you have any problems with the tablet so far?

    • @s7z7gy
      @s7z7gy 10 місяців тому +3

      the smaller ui aboutta kill my blind ass

    • @CarlosAlbertoGarcíaJiménez
      @CarlosAlbertoGarcíaJiménez 9 місяців тому

      Dude! Dude! I saw a renewed one on Amazon today. Please tell me how it is going for you? I really need to know.

    • @aribuwu
      @aribuwu 9 місяців тому +1

      @Carly_D0ve i have vision problems too! You should be fine with resizing it. I’ve been loving mine since I received it 2 months ago

  • @sanbalander1291
    @sanbalander1291 Рік тому +11

    This is the best way to review tablets☺️☺️ love your videos❤❤

  • @meekofortin14
    @meekofortin14 Рік тому +57

    I bought the Kamvas Pro 16 2.5k during the Black Friday sale and I can’t wait to get my hands on it! It’s my first personal pen display after using my brother’s Wacom One he bought back in 2020! If there is such a thing as an in between a beginner and a mid level artist, that’s where I am 😅 Do you think a screen protector is necessary for the Huion 2.5k? Love the review! I’ve watched tons of review vids and I only found out about the Slim Pen from you! Immediately bought one online 😆

    • @qrbitsart
      @qrbitsart  Рік тому +8

      Yay, enjoy your new tablet & pen! I don't think a screen protector is necessary unless you really prefer a matte texture, the existing screen pretty easy to clean and doesn't get scratched easily

    • @ashishhembrom3905
      @ashishhembrom3905 11 місяців тому +1

      How does the wacom one compare to the kamvas pro 16?

    • @aribuwu
      @aribuwu 11 місяців тому +1

      Hey! I’m getting mine soon, how it is?

    • @meekofortin14
      @meekofortin14 11 місяців тому +2

      @@ashishhembrom3905 I find that 16” is perfect for me but can get a little overprotective with the tablet because it’s thin and quite heavy 😅. 1440p is absolutely gorgeous but I use it on a Macbook Air M1, so the UI is extremely small. It’s a mac problem but I don’t mind it because for me it’s extra space. You can tweak the resolution and make the UI bigger but you lose the 1440p which kinda defeats its purpose. I never used the pen that it comes with because I bought the slim pen because I got used to the Wacom One pen which was also slim. Other minor inconveniences I faced was that from time to time when I draw on csp, the default brush cursor would change to my laptop cursor which bugged me. Not sure what causes that problem. I have to save the project, move the cursor to my laptop screen and click anywhere and bring it back to the tablet screen. Another inconvenience is if I turn off the tablet and turn it on again, it always says no connection and I have to plug and unplug the cable. Overall, it’s a huge leap for me BUT ALSO, the three years I spent with my old Wacom One (it was the first gen btw, not the newer ones) was also pretty good. Tablet was sturdy, the 1080p is perfect for the 12”. The cables were the biggest pain for me. Hope that helped!

    • @meekofortin14
      @meekofortin14 11 місяців тому +2

      @@aribuwu Really good! If you have a powerful laptop or pc, you don’t need any of the other cables to power it. I only use the usb c to usb c cable to connect to my Macbook Air M1 and it’s powerful enough to run the tablet. Never used the pen it came with because I prefer the slim pen. Screen is really really great! 1440p is a big jump from 1080p in my opinion! I ran into a couple of issues but I’m not sure if I was the problem or the tablet or my laptop because I’m not that techy 😅 Hope you like yours!

  • @anaquariusfox
    @anaquariusfox 10 місяців тому +3

    I am in love w their designs thank u for the review!

  • @htsunmiku
    @htsunmiku Рік тому +4

    Thank you. There's been absolutely no new videos comparing these 2 1v1.

  • @wizdumbisdumb
    @wizdumbisdumb 3 місяці тому +2

    came for the review, stayed for the shipping LMAO i love this

  • @kelpieblakemore
    @kelpieblakemore Рік тому +5

    Came for the review. Stayed for the headcannons.

  • @pajnzillapajn1168
    @pajnzillapajn1168 6 місяців тому +4

    higher resolution is for bigger monitors/tabs
    1080/2K looks good on 22-25 inch monitors
    then 2.5K (1440p) looks good on 27 inch inch,
    1080 on 27 inch on a regular distance looks blurry and pixelated while 1440 looks sharper

  • @Soldantae
    @Soldantae 9 місяців тому

    The mascot fanfic discussions were an unexpected but appreciated part of the video lmao❤

  • @elborgund
    @elborgund 11 місяців тому +2

    The non PRO Huion is 1080P too ,If one wants the bigger Ui with out changing settings in Windows/iOs, With windows one can change the Ui by scaling (not resolution).Not shure how to do it in iOs.
    The Huion have 2 screen protectors applied, one for protecting it in the box it comes in that you should remove, and one matt one that should stay on underneath that one, sometimes one can remove both protectors when removing the the one for protect it in the box, both comes off as one. Maybe that happened for you?

  • @Rickydepapel
    @Rickydepapel 7 місяців тому

    I'm addicted to watch Pen Display videos, and this is not the exception

  • @prototypetom77
    @prototypetom77 9 місяців тому +2

    The ending of this video is from another dimension - one i'd like to visit :D

  • @mellaae
    @mellaae 5 місяців тому

    im in love with your creativity! amazing amazing job! and i thank you so very much for the amazing detailed review. Your video has helped me decide on on my very first tablet ever! so again thank you! hope you are having an awesome day! (:

  • @PinkPlume
    @PinkPlume 10 місяців тому +4

    Despite being an older generation model, this XPPEN is much more reliable at a great price.
    The line quality has noticeably declined in their more recent displays, introducing wobble and jitter

  • @adesa756
    @adesa756 Рік тому +9

    Dang, I didn't know that the pen tablet company had a backstory😂, thanks for the backstory though

  • @svinty
    @svinty Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the review, recently i’ve been thinking about getting a tablet and honestly I needed this bc my indecisive ass cannot choose LMFAO

  • @Lotrpottergirl1
    @Lotrpottergirl1 Місяць тому

    Thanks for the review (I also love your dress! ❤)

  • @dayocandy
    @dayocandy Рік тому +1

    did you just did this art to show their competitions , lol youre a genius

  • @nothing7360
    @nothing7360 Рік тому +5

    Me being a bl webtoon creator: hmm, she knew what my brain think about this illustration 😂❤
    Start stamp: 12:34

  • @mudd975
    @mudd975 Рік тому +1

    LMAO 😹🤣🤣🤣 “please let me know if you’re in love” was the best ending lol 🤣 I love this ship now ❤🎉

  • @adwendoodles
    @adwendoodles Рік тому +1

    OK no joke I have the Huion you reviewed and I never knew about the button holding down settings thing 😅 I'm so glad I decided to watch this (I decided to watch it for the bishounen)

  • @IiDFKk
    @IiDFKk Рік тому +11

    they have to respond now, i’m invested😪

    • @qrbitsart
      @qrbitsart  Рік тому +8

      they're going to slowcook us

  • @praxycho
    @praxycho Рік тому +1

    I love your artstyle and especially your headcanon😂❤

  • @jeep3r
    @jeep3r 9 місяців тому +1

    Ty for the review, i was thinking of changing to a screen tablet from my huion inspiratory h1060p, but i was having problems deciding between xpen and huion.

  • @kizanko
    @kizanko Місяць тому

    Please Wacom MAKE A MASCOT! I love this! I need more of this! I AM ROOTING FOR THEM!

  • @UsernameInvalid48
    @UsernameInvalid48 12 днів тому

    The Naruto Sasuke comparison made me laugh. Great review too and I'll be checking out a Huion

  • @diptangshubiswas8642
    @diptangshubiswas8642 9 місяців тому +1

    love this review . one question. can you kindly tell what's the minimum gpu needed to run the kamvas 16 pro 2.5k version ?
    I have the gtx 710 but dk if it would work with that

  • @zypher4838
    @zypher4838 5 місяців тому

    your video helped me lots and i decided buy one of these guys instead of a wacom woth x3 price in my country

  • @firefly_hazard
    @firefly_hazard 6 місяців тому

    Thank you so much for talking about screen texture that is a make or break for me because I don't use a screen protector on my ipad and the glass is nasty for drawing

  • @Homeostase.medicina
    @Homeostase.medicina 3 місяці тому +2

    Do they have to be connected to a pc to be used? Loved the video, greetings from Brazil!

    • @qrbitsart
      @qrbitsart  3 місяці тому +1

      Yes they do, glad u enjoyed!

  • @mx338
    @mx338 6 місяців тому

    FYI, scaling options on your Mac are limited because of your processor/GPU, other Macs can also properly scale with the Huion tablet?

  • @misacineiro1800
    @misacineiro1800 2 місяці тому

    Thank you very much for the video. I was struggling in this love triangle, but now I can open the secret ending rout☺️☺️☺️

  • @AngelicRomance1
    @AngelicRomance1 11 місяців тому +1

    I’m looking to buy the XP pen tablet. Are you able to choose what application/software to use to draw? Like photoshop, gimp, etc?

    • @sevenfawm
      @sevenfawm 11 місяців тому

      It runs off your device like a second monitor so yes you can choose whatever program you use. I use Clip Studio and Sai2 and have also used Gimp with my Xp-pen 15.6. I would for sure recommend one.

  • @icweener1636
    @icweener1636 Рік тому

    hello thank you for the reviews, I want to venture to digital art, this will be my first time (fingers crossed) I am planning to buy a screen drawing tablet and Im choosing between huion or xp pen, and I think Im gonna go with huion but i'll go with the 13 inch pro 2.5k since I will be travelling

  • @kaniokopiumxx9333
    @kaniokopiumxx9333 4 місяці тому

    I didnt come here for the review I came here for the lore

  • @liasIias
    @liasIias 3 місяці тому

    Is there any follow up of the last part of this video?

  • @zerotear6289
    @zerotear6289 11 місяців тому +1

    I have the same Huion Kamvas 16 Pro 2.5k model, and I've only been using it for three months and the edges started to turn yellow. After I reported it to customer service, they replaced it with a brand new one for me, and then not even three months later the edges started to yellow again.
    I've asked 2 artists who use the same model and they have the same problem, if you are still using it, then I would like to know and ask you to keep an eye on the device you are currently using to see if the same problem occurs.

    • @aribuwu
      @aribuwu 11 місяців тому

      Oh no. I’m just buying it right now 😰

    • @xsvt5767
      @xsvt5767 11 місяців тому +1

      Really? That's rather odd. I've had this exact tablet for a year and a half now and have yet to run into this problem. How did the problem manifest itself on your unit? I'd like to keep an eye on mine just in case this starts happening.

    • @aribuwu
      @aribuwu 11 місяців тому

      @@xsvt5767 did you run into other problems though?

    • @zerotear6289
      @zerotear6289 11 місяців тому

      @@xsvt5767 Here is a video I recorded, the problem is that the edges of the screen are yellowed like in the video.
      ua-cam.com/video/lYqJcqzEF6E/v-deo.html

    • @aribuwu
      @aribuwu 11 місяців тому

      ​@@xsvt5767 i just received mine today :)

  • @hanahime6612
    @hanahime6612 Рік тому

    What about mechanical waves in lines? Have you tried drawing slow straight lines instead of quick? I wanna see if the waves issue is still there.

  • @rainbowgaming8441
    @rainbowgaming8441 11 місяців тому +2

    i am using Huion Kamvas 16 Pro and RTX 4090
    and no lag at all

  • @riggerdgenxron1402
    @riggerdgenxron1402 6 місяців тому

    I've an old GTX 1060 3gb graphics card, can I use this model for digital sculpting without any lag with this card? my main concern is will my card be able to pull off 2.5k without any lag? kindly reply.

  • @kelo6338
    @kelo6338 Рік тому +1

    Hello! I wanted to ask if anyone knows how to make the icons in CSP a little bigger? I just got my Kamvas 16 pro recently and have been wanting to make the ui bigger,,,

    • @paincake1018
      @paincake1018 Рік тому +1

      I think u need to set the resolution for ur huion display in bigger scale prolly at 125% 🤔. Just go to display settings n select the huion monitor(usually display no 2) n scroll down for the resolution option

  • @marisssArt
    @marisssArt Рік тому

    you have me hooked with your vision, and now i need a fanfic about that... its a shame i not a writer but im an artist!! i can make fanart and let the shippers do the fanfic XD (i was the random person who message you about them kissing jajajajaj

  • @loriecona6766
    @loriecona6766 Рік тому

    oh my goodness what tablet stand are you using!! That metal one looks great, I have the XP PEN 15.6 and the stand it comes with is too low to the table for my back! :)

    • @qrbitsart
      @qrbitsart  Рік тому +1

      Oh that one comes with the Huion! I think you can buy it on its own, but it's kind of pricey

  • @blazeravenscar
    @blazeravenscar Рік тому +1

    I swear to god the Huion and XP-Pen twitter accounts should post the love lore. xD Like how The chain fast food restaurants have “Beef” with each other.

  • @SaveSoda
    @SaveSoda 5 місяців тому

    IS THAT JOONGHYUK AND DOKJA ON YOUR DESK???😭😭❤️

  • @Dadone11
    @Dadone11 Рік тому

    I want to ask you a question. How did you learn to draw anatomy! It would be really helpful!

  • @Zerkorigin
    @Zerkorigin 3 місяці тому

    wich is better pen displays whit buttons or whit out?

  • @mohsenmolaie3878
    @mohsenmolaie3878 3 місяці тому

    Hello
    please guide me to buy
    Which one is better ?
    1 - XP-Pen Artist 15.6 Pro
    2 - Huion-Kamvas 16 (2021)
    thank you

  • @leaderbats
    @leaderbats Місяць тому

    i am a beginner. Which graphic software is better with Huion (Just like the one used in video)?

  • @DrawJam
    @DrawJam Рік тому

    Oh my god!!! Has anyone done a bishonen Wacom yet???

  • @Poikyee
    @Poikyee Рік тому +2

    can i use the huion Kamvas 16 for Mac??

  • @kanna2227
    @kanna2227 11 місяців тому

    The review came with an extra fanfic 😂

  • @gachalolomg4909
    @gachalolomg4909 5 днів тому

    This is adorable

  • @nesyah_ko
    @nesyah_ko Рік тому

    i know this is a bit off to topic.. but can i know how did you put multiple references in the sub view window? cuz im still new in using CSP

    • @silvermiyazato7767
      @silvermiyazato7767 9 місяців тому +1

      Ill showw u,after u chose a size for ur view window u just need to go to file and find insert,choose all the picture u want to use as reference and insert it,then make as many layers as ur reference and each picture should be merge with a layer. If u want to change the size or place of ur reference u can use a laso tool. Thats how i usually insert ref

    • @nesyah_ko
      @nesyah_ko 9 місяців тому

      @@silvermiyazato7767 thank youuuu will try laterr

  • @thesproutdoodles
    @thesproutdoodles Рік тому

    Wacoms mascot would be a mechanical dragon: change my mind

  • @woops8866
    @woops8866 5 місяців тому

    would the slim pen work on the XP-PEN? Or is it only compatible with the Huion?

    • @qrbitsart
      @qrbitsart  5 місяців тому +2

      it's only compatible with Huion tablets!

    • @woops8866
      @woops8866 5 місяців тому

      thank youuuu!

  • @Shadowthevampire
    @Shadowthevampire 11 місяців тому

    Is this huion kamvas 16 pro or 16 pro 2k or 16 pro 4k?

  • @inner8371
    @inner8371 Рік тому

    Hi! I was curious, if you went to college/university, did you major in arts??

  • @AnerNuhanovic
    @AnerNuhanovic 6 місяців тому

    Which one is better

  • @RasmusKonttinen
    @RasmusKonttinen 10 місяців тому

    Can u do other things than drawing on the tablet

  • @whimsylore
    @whimsylore Рік тому +5

    Haha love the headcannon ending

  • @CableTV-f6y
    @CableTV-f6y Рік тому +1

    Man I had got a computer for that dragon framer turns out the computer wasn't compatible with God damn dragon frame got a camera and everything and then I had to get another damn computer I got one of them x-pen 156 pro coming

  • @xMeelox
    @xMeelox Рік тому

    At first i was like omg i think tjis video will help me and when you said langa and reki i knew something was up then you started shipping them so i immediately stopped the video and clicked on the subscribe button

  • @DanielBuligan-m6v
    @DanielBuligan-m6v 13 днів тому

    Why is your voice husky?

  • @kaanozgul6945
    @kaanozgul6945 Рік тому

    I don’t like these cables. I have a so pen artist 12 and the cable is broken also the port on the tablet is broken because sometimes the cable gets in the way and I yank it out

  • @DavyWavy1283
    @DavyWavy1283 6 місяців тому

    OK guys we need to make a wattpad story, should i make one abt the mascots??

  • @MJ_Johnson
    @MJ_Johnson Рік тому

    so, who's gonna write it...?

  • @ArtisticallyTwistedTea
    @ArtisticallyTwistedTea 8 місяців тому

    This is probably going to sound like an incredibly dumb quewtion but do you need a computer or laptop to use either of these? Like is it a requirement or could you use them just the same without a computor or laptop?

    • @qrbitsart
      @qrbitsart  8 місяців тому

      yes, these don't work without a computer/laptop to hook up to

  • @daph3701
    @daph3701 Рік тому +4

    great review! I was curious to know if you’ve ever had any issues with drivers/compatibility w mac/macbooks with Huion’s products + any issues in general? I’ve been debating the bigger huion’s for a while since my ipad’s limitations are starting to frustrate me. I have a really old pen tab w huion but discovered after a few weeks that my hand eye is doodoo alongside the lag(?) on the tab being atrocious 😂

    • @qrbitsart
      @qrbitsart  Рік тому +1

      hmm there was a little issue installing the huion 16 driver, I had to delete the huion 24in driver and restart my computer before reinstalling the 16 driver, but after that it was fine, so perhaps just make sure you don't have any old drivers on your computer?

    • @daph3701
      @daph3701 Рік тому

      @@qrbitsart thanks for the response! I have heard of huion tabs requiring it be the only driver on the computer before, I guess it’s a reoccurring issue.

  • @johnminet9067
    @johnminet9067 Рік тому

    Love your story 😂

  • @average3970
    @average3970 Рік тому +2

    I love your outfit, you look like a ghibli character

  • @Haruki_chan
    @Haruki_chan Рік тому +11

    I ship it... the bl community will just buy both tablets for the company lore, cause thats canon now

  • @mochichimmyy
    @mochichimmyy Рік тому

    Great comparisson

  • @MattHalpain
    @MattHalpain 9 місяців тому

    I choose the 2017 XP pen for the price

  • @Con._ca
    @Con._ca Рік тому

    HELP THE LAST 3 min 😭

  • @heyyy7290
    @heyyy7290 10 місяців тому

    Dayum I feel like that’s supppper cheap for how huge it is

    • @heyyy7290
      @heyyy7290 10 місяців тому

      Compared to Wacom 😭

  • @EliasAngelo9426
    @EliasAngelo9426 3 місяці тому

    5:24

  • @therealmortshow
    @therealmortshow Рік тому

    that shit big as hell what the fuck is that shawdy (meme)

  • @Nazinsky
    @Nazinsky 5 місяців тому

    good to know we dont need wacom

  • @Nutterbutter369
    @Nutterbutter369 Рік тому

    I like it

  • @陈瑜璟
    @陈瑜璟 Рік тому

    Hi, bro, excuse me, in my video there is a video of Huion Kamvas Pro 27, which is the new product of Huion sold in China, if you are interested, you can have a look, thank you!

  • @orlainecastilla4837
    @orlainecastilla4837 Місяць тому

    that story 😆

  • @Timegirls3301
    @Timegirls3301 Рік тому

    Stand alone?❤

  • @design_with_crooked_hands
    @design_with_crooked_hands 5 місяців тому

    Huion сломался через пять лет использования никто этот китайский хлам у нас не чинит, работает как монитор, стилус не реагирует. XP-pen купили месяц назад, дочка рада, надеюсь прослужит дольше чем первый экземпляр.

  • @Mykal06
    @Mykal06 21 день тому

    To anyone reading this, there is a loving God who wants to save you. And because He loves us, He (Jesus) died on the cross and resurrected 3 days later so we can be forgiven of our sins and be saved. Repent and believe the Gospel! Please consider the state of your soul, don't let this chance pass you by. Believe in Jesus and follow Him so you can have salvation. Life is short, please make the right choice today before its too late. Jesus loves you.

    • @ms.bigbooty
      @ms.bigbooty 11 днів тому

      As a Christian myself, STFU.

  • @angeloumicah
    @angeloumicah 5 місяців тому +5

    theyve been awfully quiet-theyre tying to keep the ship on low i see i see,, very suspicious of these two companies 🫢🫢