FIRST TIME WATCHING *Black Panther:Wakanda Forever*

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  • @SebScreen
    @SebScreen  Рік тому +417

    Fixed now guys, had too much of the talokan flower 🤪

  • @priscillas4722
    @priscillas4722 Рік тому +268

    Lupita Nyong’o was born in Mexico and is fluent in Spanish! In an interview she said how much she was looking forward to speaking the language in this film! 😊

  • @bingbongboi2046
    @bingbongboi2046 Рік тому +1024

    Two points I think you missed. One, Shuri is trained. We even saw her fight in Black Panther, Infinity War, and End game. Also, if Shuri killed Namor (even tho she wanted to), it would be the end of Wakanda. The Talokans had a way larger army and would have waged eternal war against Wakanda if they killed their god.

    • @Luciphell
      @Luciphell Рік тому +33

      They just did an abysmal job of showing that power disparity in the film. All we have is one throwaway line by Namor early in the film.

    • @bingbongboi2046
      @bingbongboi2046 Рік тому +99

      @@Luciphell i think you missed the part where namor (powered by water) was being dehydrated.

    • @Luciphell
      @Luciphell Рік тому +11

      @@bingbongboi2046
      No, I mean they failed to show the vast numbers difference in their armies.

    • @bingbongboi2046
      @bingbongboi2046 Рік тому +96

      @@Luciphell imo opinion it was kinda obvious when talokans were still coming out of the water when their was like only 12 wakandas left on their ship at the end battle. but yeah, i see that point.

    • @Luciphell
      @Luciphell Рік тому +7

      @@bingbongboi2046
      I mean, I see how it would have been easily done, and I also see why it wasn't done.
      All it would have taken would have been a wide establishing shot of the entire Tolokan army surrounding and converging on their ship. The Tolokans riding on great troop transport whales surfacing all over. Dolphin riders as far as the eye can see. That would have been pretty cool.
      Pretty sure they just cut corners and saved some time and money on what would have been to them a lot of money and work for background stuff. Missed opportunity I say.

  • @Orion_TheyThem
    @Orion_TheyThem Рік тому +305

    RiRi Williams is IronHeart. In the comics she was one of those students that Tony Stark gave a grant to. And she was kinda a protege of sorts. Tom's Spiderman took her spot in the cinematic universe.

    • @KrisFlicks
      @KrisFlicks Рік тому +26

      fr, wish we could’ve seen her develop a friendship with Tony earlier

    • @kcraincano8961
      @kcraincano8961 Рік тому +13

      @@KrisFlicks i bet we're only getting some flashbacks with her and tony since her upcoming show is about the events after wakanda forever. or maybe tony also gave her his A.I consciousness just like in the comics to train her

    • @Orion_TheyThem
      @Orion_TheyThem Рік тому +2

      @@kcraincano8961 there's no way because RDJ is *done* with the MCU. He made it very obvious that he wants nothing more to do with it. Which is why we didn't get any new flashback scenes with him and Peter in No Way Home.

    • @kcraincano8961
      @kcraincano8961 Рік тому +4

      @@Orion_TheyThem well sure that's true but i still believe that one way or another stark will have something to do with riri. it may be a very small role or maybe just references. we can't have ironheart without stark influencing her

  • @purgeblue
    @purgeblue Рік тому +418

    The choice of making his passing into the MCU as well instead of finding a new actor for T’Challa was the most honorable and respectful thing they could have done. No one on the entire planet could ever be the Black Panther Chadwick was

    • @LadyBug020411
      @LadyBug020411 Рік тому +44

      And I loved that he had a son who shared his name, so that all of T'Challa's stories that we would have missed out on can still be told.

    • @jonathanfoster4202
      @jonathanfoster4202 Рік тому +10

      I’m still not ALL the way on board with them not recasting him myself, but I did love this film regardless. Such an amazing and heart-wrenching story, and all the actors were beyond incredible

    • @Nazzgulek
      @Nazzgulek Рік тому +8

      "was the most honorable and respectful thing they could have done" - no, it wasn't. The most honorable thing would be to recast T'Challa so that all the hard work that Chadwick had put into creating his character would not go into a dumpster.

    • @antoniodalton9256
      @antoniodalton9256 Рік тому +2

      The black guy that played the purge when they were in Staten island could play TChalla perfectly. Maybe even better than Chadwick.

    • @vivaraulito
      @vivaraulito Рік тому +3

      It isn’t at all they basically marketed his death instead of recasting the character that he spent so much work bringing to life only to place him 6ft under…. Even Chadwick’s own family wanted the recast they understood the work he put into that but none of y’all really do

  • @adrianmartinez5265
    @adrianmartinez5265 Рік тому +240

    Angela Bassett is a BEAST. She is the first acting Oscar nominated in a Marvel movie. She's incredible.

    • @cedricdallaire3324
      @cedricdallaire3324 Рік тому +1

      yes she is but that was not her best role tbh.... she was way better in american horror story.

    • @joey.thanes
      @joey.thanes 10 місяців тому +7

      @@cedricdallaire3324 you don't get oscars for tv shows 🙄

    • @brothercinnamon2479
      @brothercinnamon2479 9 місяців тому

      ​@@cedricdallaire3324people like you

    • @Slimsh4dy360
      @Slimsh4dy360 7 місяців тому

      Know this is late, but Pretty sure Brie Larson won an Oscar in 2016.

    • @joey.thanes
      @joey.thanes 7 місяців тому

      @@Slimsh4dy360 not for captain marvel.

  • @JozyMozy
    @JozyMozy Рік тому +342

    I gotta say, I did not forsee a throwaway line about being "potentially as strong as the hulk" being the thing one would hone in on and obsess over through the film's climax. Definitely unique 🤣

    • @ISAACRICH
      @ISAACRICH Рік тому +112

      fr it was starting to annoy me lmao

    • @JustLikeKeviin
      @JustLikeKeviin Рік тому +97

      he kept comparing to the OG avengers 😭 “she’s trying to be iron man” “not as strong as the hulk” “should’ve called Thor” ! the movie was great, let it just be it’s own thing ◡̈

    • @domilovez
      @domilovez Рік тому +67

      Yeah... I was like dude needs to read or look up some comics cause the OG avengers aren't the most powerful beings by a long shot

    • @Spider-Nefilo
      @Spider-Nefilo Рік тому +6

      @@domilovez exactly

    • @KrisFlicks
      @KrisFlicks Рік тому +1

      @@domilovez literally

  • @rileyribble6733
    @rileyribble6733 Рік тому +94

    Namor IS indeed a mutant. In fact, in terms of being introduced in the comics, he’s the first mutant ever introduced

    • @dailycarolina.
      @dailycarolina. Рік тому

      wasn't Apocalypse the first Mutant ?

    • @rileyribble6733
      @rileyribble6733 Рік тому +3

      Daily In terms of chronologically in Marvel history, but NOT in terms of being introduced as a character. Namor was introduced in 1939, while Apocalypse wasn’t created until 1986 if memory serves me well

    • @glucosepouches
      @glucosepouches Рік тому +4

      @@rileyribble6733correct in fact i believe Namor was one of the first Marvel characters created, even preceding Aquaman from DC.

    • @ignisinfernal1843
      @ignisinfernal1843 Рік тому +2

      @@glucosepouches You are correct. He even precedes Captain America.

    • @JamieSmith-oj6th
      @JamieSmith-oj6th Рік тому +1

      @@glucosepouches he was the very first beside the human torch. Not johnny storm but an android version

  • @vante.m
    @vante.m Рік тому +482

    No movie that made me cry like this as soon as it started. I was just 2 minutes in and already bawled my eyes out. I miss Chadwick.

    • @maxschutzer4749
      @maxschutzer4749 Рік тому +2

      @@MamadNobari 💯

    • @ayaannazir7308
      @ayaannazir7308 Рік тому +7

      Chadwick is my favourite marvel actor and always will be, his acting is amazing rip Chadwick

    • @tastyeagle7114
      @tastyeagle7114 Рік тому +4

      So u didnt cry when hemidall died and loki died in the 1st 5 minutes of infinity war?

    • @bxrbie_hazel
      @bxrbie_hazel Рік тому +5

      @@tastyeagle7114 I did for loki not headmill

    • @bxrbie_hazel
      @bxrbie_hazel Рік тому +3

      Same

  • @juanfajardo1295
    @juanfajardo1295 Рік тому +65

    I can confirm that Namor did come before aquaman. He’s one of marvel comics very early heroes and first mutant. Not first mutant ever in the world but first to debut in the comics

  • @valentinruiz3828
    @valentinruiz3828 Рік тому +83

    Namor is one of the first characters created by Marvel, he was created in 1939. He came from Atlantis, and is the character that DC was inspired to create Aquaman (who was created in 1941). But since Aquaman was adapted into live action earlier, many believe that Namor is Marvel's Aquaman. that's why they decided to change the origin of namor in the mcu

    • @Ixfinitylol
      @Ixfinitylol 5 місяців тому

      Good point, and as a Mexican, its nice to see another hispanic make its way into the MCU :)

  • @NyikoDoris
    @NyikoDoris Рік тому +77

    Shuri is from a royal family, and they all learned to fight (remember her and Ramonda with their spears when Namor shows up in Wakanda for the first time? also in the first Black Panther and during the big fight in Endgame) she just chose to focus on science and technology while T'Challa took on being Black Panther as heir but Shuri CAN fight. Also, she's not stronger than Namor when they fight in the desert, he's just weakened enough that it could be a semi-equal fight then towards the end she uses her strengths (agility to get in front of him and rip his wing off and strategy to use what's left of the royal talon fighter to fry him)
    Namor didn't get dumb, he got cocky (surely they wouldn't try and fight us on OUR turf) similar to Wakanda ("we wish you the best of luck" [on finding vibranium outside of Wakanda]) Talokan is still much stronger than Wakanda, meanwhile, Wakanda barely got out of that fight with 10 warriors. Shuri kills him, and the hundreds of thousands or even millions of Talokanil will come for retribution against all of Wakanda because he's seen as a god by the Talokanil. Shuri retains her humanity, saves her people and Namor gets what he's always wanted anyway: Wakanda as allies and a war with the surface world in the future...Shuri only 'won' barely.

    • @basicsimp8798
      @basicsimp8798 Рік тому +3

      Seriously, I thought this were common knowledge as it's explained in the film and implied

  • @Sentinel3D
    @Sentinel3D Рік тому +225

    Yes. Namor is as strong as a moderately warm Hulk. In the 80s, he had big face offs with Hulk and Thor. Always an undetermined winner, but lately, Hulk always wins.

    • @Spider-Nefilo
      @Spider-Nefilo Рік тому +7

      He deserved to Win ngl, screw Shuri, Namor is a real one 🗿🌊

    • @reynaldolorenzo8409
      @reynaldolorenzo8409 Рік тому +18

      @@Spider-Nefilo He obviously would’ve won but it’s a BP movie so🤷🏽‍♂️
      When he grabbed her and flies with her he just needed to get her in the water and that’s it but they needed Shuri to win so🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @juicypapi2650
      @juicypapi2650 Рік тому +6

      @@reynaldolorenzo8409 Yeah plot armour was really shown in this film for Shuri

    • @ironking790
      @ironking790 Рік тому +1

      @@Spider-Nefilo He didn't deserve to win. I know Spider-Man wouldn't agree with his intentions either.

    • @ironking790
      @ironking790 Рік тому +7

      @@reynaldolorenzo8409 T'challa has beaten Namor in the comics before too. Namor is stronger underwater, but without being underwater he more evenly as strong as T'challa. Same applies to Shuri as Black Panther vs Namor. Namor likey more so had his mind on going after Shuri over going into the water.

  • @enter4none
    @enter4none Рік тому +37

    Namor is a strategist, giving Shuri the fantasy that he yields works better for him, puts him in a better position as long as Talokan stays one step ahead to Wakanda's counter tech.

  • @gianteyeinthesky677
    @gianteyeinthesky677 Рік тому +606

    This movie was definitely worth the wait. Everyone involved in the making of this film should be proud

    • @tmac731
      @tmac731 Рік тому +5

      BP 2 should’ve been taken place after Infinity War, they could’ve killed Tchalla since he was dead for 5 years, honor Chadwick then bring Tchalla back

    • @bongzilla4172
      @bongzilla4172 Рік тому +8

      The movie was OK. Nothing special. First one was for sure better.

    • @mcnalisasmile
      @mcnalisasmile Рік тому +14

      @@bongzilla4172 it's definitely your opinion bc I thought this one was more finished, the story I mean, really emotional and had everything I didn't even know I was looking for !

    • @TOXICYT2016
      @TOXICYT2016 Рік тому +3

      @MamadNobari pretty sure Shuri dusted so she couldn't even be the black panther anymores in those 5 years

    • @g4brieI
      @g4brieI Рік тому +2

      @@mcnalisasmile I'm sure he didn't ask

  • @scottalynch
    @scottalynch Рік тому +267

    This is an awesome film. I didn’t get a chance to see it in the theater. I watched it as soon as it was on D+ (3am on 2/1). I didn’t make it 2 minutes. Tears were streaming down my face. It hit me especially hard as I’m grieving the loss of my wife on 1/30. We were together 22 years and it wasn’t long enough. ❤

    • @sweetrain50
      @sweetrain50 Рік тому +8

      I'm so very sorry for your loss. May her memory continually be a blessing. Peace and comfort to you.

    • @tubatsimoloi7743
      @tubatsimoloi7743 Рік тому +6

      My condolences 🌹. I hope you're okay.

    • @scottalynch
      @scottalynch Рік тому +11

      @@tubatsimoloi7743 I am not okay, and that’s ok. Something like this will change someone. I will never be the same as I was prior to 30 Jan. This will continue to change me. I see and hear constant reminders of her, and continue to miss her deeply. This is something I would never wish on anyone. I have been having discussions with others that have gone though the intense loss of a longtime partner. I am still very close to our kids (adults) and mother. I have support, but it will take as much time as it takes. I will not put a time limit on it.

    • @jasminemallen_
      @jasminemallen_ Рік тому +5

      So sorry for your loss, this broke my heart to read it.

    • @DarkDragon_Midnight
      @DarkDragon_Midnight Рік тому +1

      My condolences, I'm sure she was an amazing woman, 🫂

  • @wjquick32
    @wjquick32 Рік тому +11

    I saw this movie opening night, was on a row full of college students from my alma mater. The opening silent credits got complete shocked silence in the theater all 3 times I saw it. Losing the Queen was so rough, everyone was crying and I almost had a personal breakdown over how close it hit home. And of course the last montage. The college kids all sounded like they had bad head colds after the movie ended. The most I've ever cried in a movie theater by far. Heartbreakingly beautiful movie.

  • @johnnybhoff226
    @johnnybhoff226 Рік тому +121

    I loved this movie. Was incredible. Idk how to explain it. To me, it didn’t feel like a typical marvel movie. The hero’s weren’t too far from typical presentation, neither were the villain’s. The best reason I can have is that it’s more relatable than any other marvel movie. With Chadwick’s passing it’s brought all his films in to a whole new level of appreciation and meaning. especially this one. It was just amazing. And it dealt with his passing incredibly thoughtfully. Will forever hold a place in my heart.
    Rest easy KING. We’ll miss you❤

    • @Spider-Nefilo
      @Spider-Nefilo Рік тому +4

      I'll give you a reason, Ryan Coogler (like i have no other explanation this guy is a Great director overrall, maybe not the Best Director in the MCU...but still, he has a vision and style, he is DA GOAT 🤍)

    • @johnnybhoff226
      @johnnybhoff226 Рік тому +2

      @@Spider-Nefilo I totally agree. He is amazing.

  • @bryannguyen2383
    @bryannguyen2383 Рік тому +31

    The way they built up Namor and including Mayan culture was beautiful. This film was amazing to see in theaters and during flashbacks of Chadwick the entire theater was silent and you could almost hear a pin drop. End fight was a big stale but the rest was solid, pure story w the most beautiful scenes of the MCU. Definitely top 3 if not the best of Phase 4 imo. Finally a movie exploring deep emotion while letting the characters breathe.

  • @juanfajardo1295
    @juanfajardo1295 Рік тому +15

    Also fun fact about Lupita, she grew up in Mexico so she speaks Spanish

  • @MichaelDavis2754
    @MichaelDavis2754 Рік тому +39

    I love how the Queen says "we know what you whisper" and that's one of the tracks in this movie

  • @kaidt5861
    @kaidt5861 Рік тому +121

    Went and saw this on opening day. It was so good, imo, but I cried so damn much. I'm from about an hour away from where Chadwick Boseman was from and he was such an inspiration and played so many black heroes. And to hear how he worked so hard while going through so much & didn't tell anyone. And the internet was picking on him close to the end because of the weight loss. It really broke my heart, so everything in the movie just reminded me of someone worth much respect & that was from all accounts an amazing person. Especially at Romanda & the end when Lift Me Up started playing. 😭😭🖤💜🖤

  • @surlycanadian
    @surlycanadian Рік тому +63

    I only had a basic idea of Namor’s powers and their levels prior to this. A quick look-see on the marvel wiki reveals that Namor has beaten savage Hulk and Red Hulk. His power levels depend on his contact with water and decreases the longer he is out of water. Out of water he has beaten she-hulk, Luke Cage and Thing. He has also gone toe to toe with Silver Surfer.
    Some details I already knew about his are at the time of his creation in 1939, he was the first flying superhero (superman could only leap tall buildings in a single bound at the time and first flew in the radio program in 1940). His origin was later retconned to be a mutant after the creation of mutants in marvel comics in 1963.

    • @punkem733
      @punkem733 Рік тому

      Going toe to toe with Surfer is hilarious. Namor could become water, and still would be a million x weaker.

  • @jordonworthy1820
    @jordonworthy1820 Рік тому +23

    I remember being in the theater and trying to hold back my tears, and then I looked around and I kid you not EVERYONE was bawling their eyes out, so I was like “fine ima cry too” and proceeded to shed grown man tears.

    • @sathvamp1
      @sathvamp1 Рік тому +1

      Good for you, seriously, because I once held it in during one particular movie (because my roommates were there) but I'd really WANTED to let it out... and holding it in actually felt like it hurt my brain, so I actually regretted it, lol! Then afterwards though, I discovered I was suddenly addicted to tearjerkers (I guess the associated endorphins had still gotten released!)

    • @squeakSquak
      @squeakSquak 2 місяці тому +1

      @@sathvamp1 I held in my tears for avengers endgame because I wanted to challenge myself (stupid I know) and I literally didn't feel emotions for a few days until i cried lol

    • @sathvamp1
      @sathvamp1 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@squeakSquak Oh wow that's an intense one to try something like that with, jeez! Your delayed reaction reminds me a bit of what my own brain did with "Hachi- A Dog's Tale". Except, that wasn't voluntary suppression- it was apparently subconscious repression instead, because I had at first wondered why I hadn't cried even more than I did (I did a little, but given what was going on in that movie, I would have expected a bigger reaction from myself). Then later that night I caught myself repeatedly starting to think about the movie again, but finally realized that every time I started to, I'd subconsciously push the thoughts away "because they were too painful" (which is how my brain put it when I finally realized what was going on, lol). So, I did then make a special effort to let myself think about it, and... yeah there was basically a huge flood :P

  • @sophiafml
    @sophiafml Рік тому +13

    i've never cried at a movie theater as much as i did watching this movie, i was full on sobbing. this movie is so special and i think they did an absolutely amazing job honoring chad but also furthering the story and making a beautiful film. this is definitely one of my favorite marvel projects in phase 4.

  • @Shade1703
    @Shade1703 Рік тому +11

    im pretty sure when Mbaku said that Namor is maybe as strong as the hulk it was because he got beaten. So he was playing up Namor's strength for his pride.

    • @ginabelle7
      @ginabelle7 Рік тому +4

      That’s exactly what I got from it. Idk why he was so stuck on that line. 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Iletyoulive
      @Iletyoulive Рік тому +2

      No he actually is

    • @vordt4139
      @vordt4139 Рік тому +3

      No, He actually is stronger than Hulk, as well as most of Hulks forms. The only one who is stronger in every sense is World Breaker Hulk, who we have not seen in the MCU

    • @Shade1703
      @Shade1703 Рік тому +1

      @@vordt4139 if you go by comics, he maybe is as strong as the hulk. Yes they fight, and quite a few of the times that Namor has straight up beat the hulk is either on or under the water. So ofc Namor in his element is a better fighter than the hulk out of his element. I also wouldn’t say that Namor is “stronger”, he’s a more capable and skilled fighter and is faster, and from what I’ve seen in his fights with hulk, that makes up for the lower strength.
      Even Ryan Coogler said that Namor is “as strong as Thor, and around water is as strong as the Hulk.” But that quote doesn’t really even make sense either because we’ve seen in the MCU that hammerless Thor beats the Hulk in ragnarok. Thor with stormbreaker and odinforce probably demolishes Hulk. Thor with stormbreaker almost kills full gauntlet Thanos, so these things stop making sense.
      It’s totally fine to say Namor has beaten the hulk in the comics, and he probably could in the MCU since MCU hulk is weaker, especially as professor hulk who isn’t angry. But using an extremely unclear word like “stronger” and not saying that you mean in the comics just muddies the conversation. Being able to beat someone does not necessarily make you stronger in terms of strength.
      Besides how would M’Baku know how strong the hulk is. Especially after only being punched once by Namor.

  • @paulrodarte5736
    @paulrodarte5736 Рік тому +2

    Reno, Nevada here. I was in the theater opening night. The Marvel title screen/moment of silence was dead silent in the theater. You felt it. It was as if no one wanted to make a sound. I fought back tears, and for the most part succeeded. The moment I saw Nakia with a young child, I knew, i lost it. Half of the theater lost it. I have been to most of the opening nights for Marvel, and this was as impactful as Infinity War, Endgame, and Spiderman: No Way Home. You could just feel the vibration throughout the theater.

  • @frederiquem6725
    @frederiquem6725 Рік тому +3

    People tend to forget that shuri fought at least 2 wars. She was there against killmonger and his followers and she fought in end game too. She has training.
    Now with the black panther super serum, and the suit, she has the strength to go with the training.

  • @TheSlimerBoi
    @TheSlimerBoi Рік тому +10

    If you didn't know, the black/pruple haired lady, Fontaine, is the same person who hired the evil Captain America from FATWS and also has Yelena working for her.

  • @TWM069
    @TWM069 Рік тому +15

    I'd say this movie is one of the top Marvel films to date. I could watch it over and over again and still be in awe of everything from the acting to the action to the culture etc

  • @Maratonkata
    @Maratonkata Рік тому +7

    The movie i cried the most, not gonna lie. Everything in this movie was beautifull. I love the fact that they didn't rush anything in it and gavee everything a good explanation. And the way they ''recasted'' T'Challa without actually doing it is amazing way and so respectful. The soundtracks, the visuals, the actors, everything was 10/10. Can't wait to see more of Namor and now M'Baku as the new king of Wakanda is gonna be really interesting. Great movie. I hope Ryan Coogler is gonna stay at this franchise and continue working on Black Panther. Fantastic director. Also the beautifull Marvel intro in the beggining. My cinema was so quiet. No one was drinking, eating, talking and even breathing. Amazing.

  • @vandersonvalley5924
    @vandersonvalley5924 Рік тому +16

    I absolutely love Namor and can’t wait to see more of him as he was the most captivating

  • @jalynharrison1947
    @jalynharrison1947 Рік тому +9

    Lupita (Nokia) is of Kenyan and Mexican heritage and knows how to speak the languages fluently already I’m pretty sure so she didn’t have to learn it for the movie.
    Also at the end of the movie when you’re like “no I would’ve had to kill him” is such a mood. Like naw baby I don’t play bout my momma

  • @DarkDragon_Midnight
    @DarkDragon_Midnight Рік тому +7

    This movie came out a day before my little sister's birthday, Black Panther, alongside Thor is one of her favorite marvel characters of all time, we went to the theatre on her birthday to watch it, my sister honestly wasn't expecting it to be so sad. We all cried a lot, even me, who is very hard to get to cry with movies. It was definitely worth it, I have a lot of respect for how they made this movie feel like a tribute to Chadwick Boseman, instead of simply replacing him

  • @shaunjanielaragon8361
    @shaunjanielaragon8361 Рік тому +7

    It was said that when namor is in enough water he is as strong as the hulk so... super excited for the future of his character

  • @yarnehekker8027
    @yarnehekker8027 Рік тому +35

    The trailers for this movie were insane and the movie itself was amazing 👏🏻 😍

    • @aidanmonroe17
      @aidanmonroe17 Рік тому +1

      Haha, I thought it was a really disappointing movie to remember Chadwick

    • @yarnehekker8027
      @yarnehekker8027 Рік тому +3

      @Aidan Monroe Nah it was great. Sure some things could've been better but it still was amazing

  • @lovethatforme
    @lovethatforme Рік тому +18

    I'm glad they introduced a son as the next tchalla in a way. I'm hoping that many of his stories can be rewritten for this new character. There was a lot of controversy regarding not hiring another actor to play T'challa and just continue as if nothing happened.

    • @punkem733
      @punkem733 Рік тому +2

      They were going to introduce a son even if he was alive.

    • @BetaBreaking
      @BetaBreaking Рік тому

      ​@@punkem733 the initial idea for BP2 was that T'Challa was gonna be ruling and raising his son while trying to navigate a war with the "Atlanteans"

    • @lovethatforme
      @lovethatforme Рік тому

      @@punkem733 eventually, but not soon had he been alive.

  • @SpecsTube
    @SpecsTube Рік тому +8

    I was freaking out so hard when I saw Michael B Jordan in the ancestral plane so hard - love him so much

  • @dragon9slayer250
    @dragon9slayer250 Рік тому +4

    What you missed is that he’s as strong as the hulk in water. When he’s dried out his power slowly diminishes

  • @vanilla6326
    @vanilla6326 Рік тому +17

    Went to see this in theatres and just silently cried in the back of the theatre. Such a good movie to mourn Chadwick
    Edit: also for the first five minutes of the film there was no noise from the audience, no wrappers, no shifting, nada.
    Edit 2: I mean in defense of Shuri not killing Namor, as M’baku pointed out he is a god to his people so killing him would’ve been to sign up for a never ending war. Chadwick hadn’t actually passed yet when this film started production, the writers had to scramble when he passed on. Shuri becoming the black panther after T’challa’s death and Riri becoming iron woman are both comic accurate. I do wish riri was given more development in this film but I assume she’ll get more screen time in another film.

  • @sepiaswirl
    @sepiaswirl Рік тому +15

    I saw it in theater, not on opening night or whatever, but still. During the quiet moments right at the start and the end, you did in fact hear people cry and sniffle. It was a very strange experience but also kind of beautiful I guess, to see so many people be touched by Chadwick and to share in the sorrow. As for the movie, I think as a tribute to Chadwick and T'challa it nailed it. As for the story, I thought it was alright c: I definitely didn't hate it, but I also didn't love it completely. It's a great movie all the same, and I appreciate what they made for sure.

  • @marian.german
    @marian.german Рік тому +4

    This movie made me cry a LOT. I saw it in theaters 4 times because it kinda made me feel like it was wakandians vs mexicans😂 (i know it’s not) but i'm mexican and it's so cool to see now that a lot of mexican kids see themselves as namor and namora

  • @viktorszakacs9494
    @viktorszakacs9494 Рік тому +5

    Fun Facts about Namor: in th comics he's was first mutant. He was one of the first characters of the Marvel comics (early name Timely comics) he was made in october of 1939, before Aquaman (so we could say that DC copied Marvel in thi case, but that's how ideas are, if you have a good one someone will "copy" it).
    So yeah, hes pretty big deal

  • @alexavmtz
    @alexavmtz Рік тому +10

    oh im definitely gonna cry again. When i watched it at the cinema i cried all the way through and couldn't stop crying even when i arrived home

  • @legodoctorstrange
    @legodoctorstrange Рік тому +8

    Namor McKenzie AKA "The Sub-Mariner" is one of Marvel's oldest characters being created in 1939, along with being the first Mutant. He's also the predecessor to Aquaman, who was created in 1941
    They changed Namor's origins as a half Human half Atlantean to a Talokanil due to Universal still having the main rights to the character. His ethnicity was also changed from a White/Asian to a Latino/Hispanic
    And yes, he's as strong as the Hulk (WHEN IN WATER), can fly at speeds up to 345mph (555kph) , and has the durability of Thor
    "Imperious Rex!" is the Atlantean battle cry in the comics
    Sorry if I'm ranting, I'm just a HUGE Namor fan

    • @bbcseriesfan
      @bbcseriesfan Рік тому +1

      Glad to see I'm not the only one. I absolutely ADORE Namor in the comics, everytime he shows up I'm cheering at the page like an idiot. XD

  • @kaet7472
    @kaet7472 Рік тому +10

    I love how good this movie was. It has to be my new favorite mcu movie. The music too is so good, even after rewatching it multiple times i always get chills.

  • @shadowfire_08
    @shadowfire_08 Рік тому +4

    I just happen to live in Chadwick’s hometown of Anderson, South Carolina. this man has done soo much for the local communities & kids down here. Wakanda Forever, My King 🤴🏿🙅🏼‍♂️🍻

  • @scottjohnson3112
    @scottjohnson3112 Рік тому +9

    I cried as soon as the movie began, but this was a wonderful movie and I'm glad to finally watch it with you

  • @Arsalan9851
    @Arsalan9851 Рік тому +14

    Yesss no ⚪️ thanks seb for the instant response and reupload 🐐

  • @anagh1412
    @anagh1412 Рік тому +3

    seb, you didnt recognise valantina?
    she was the one who was guiding john walker and she was the one who was in black widow post credit scene.
    she will be back in the thunderbolts, with yelena, bucky, red guardian (hopper lol), john walker, etc

  • @garrettwhite5943
    @garrettwhite5943 Рік тому +7

    I don't speak for anyone else in the cinema but I was crying for the first, like, twenty minutes of this movie. And a few more times throughout

  • @okay4425
    @okay4425 Рік тому +2

    i went to cinema opening night and the theater was so quiet everytime chadwick was mentioned or shown, and i heard so much sniffling too it was crazy. i’ve never been to a marvel movie where the room was so quiet, it was very respectful.

  • @edielaufeyson1106
    @edielaufeyson1106 Рік тому +4

    I watched this opening night and the cinema and there was one point where the man in front of me turned around and told me to shut up because I was crying too loud… it just made me cry even more.

  • @adrianvargas2939
    @adrianvargas2939 Рік тому +2

    20:21 Namor came out before Acuaman in 1930s 🤓👆 and he is the first marvel mutant, Namor is like one of the most important characters in Marvel comics since he is part of the main illuminati (the people in doctor strange MoM) and has battled/helped the Xmen, fantastic 4 and the avengers (and he was actually a white guy from Atlantis)

  • @Ran-ob8ct
    @Ran-ob8ct Рік тому +3

    Namor and Shuri are definitely not friends after that fight lol. The reason why Namor didn't just go and kill everyone in Wakanda or kill Shuri was because his main objective has always been to persuade Wakanda into allying with them to attack the surface world, it was never about destroying Wakanda.
    He basically got what he wanted in the end with Talokan and Wakanda reaching a truce plus he probably knows that the attack on the bridge was pinned against Wakanda so the US (and its allies) will definitely take offensive actions against Wakanda and Namor then can use that to back Wakanda into a corner to agree with them to help wipe out the surface world.

    • @joshbrosh6626
      @joshbrosh6626 Рік тому +2

      And as they said if shuri killed him then there would be an endless cycle of war between the 2 nations i think seb missed that part

    • @Ran-ob8ct
      @Ran-ob8ct Рік тому

      @@joshbrosh6626 absolutely. I'm pretty excited to see where this will take us. I have a feeling Black Panther 3 will have the same vibe as Civil War had in the Infinity Saga in the same sense that dictated the interrelationships of the heroes/avengers since it seems like there's a lot in it that could shake the tides, idk though. I'm also hoping there's at the very least a mention of Namor in the fantastic 4 movie...

  • @wilfredoemmanuelpadilla2765
    @wilfredoemmanuelpadilla2765 Рік тому +1

    All of the beach scenes and Haiti scenes where shot in Puerto Rico and I couldn’t be more proud 😭❤. Just wish they gave credit to PR. 🇵🇷

  • @Bmcclain620
    @Bmcclain620 Рік тому +9

    This movie was hard to watch in theaters, dead silent the whole time, great tribute to Chadwick. R.I.P.

  • @Lee-ps9vh
    @Lee-ps9vh Рік тому +2

    not seb seeing them standing beside each other and thinking they are friends. lmaooo bffr.

  • @saqiburrahman6524
    @saqiburrahman6524 Рік тому +2

    Seb did you know that Namor was actually the first mutant ever created in the marvel comics. He is now the oldest established mutant in the mcu(as apocalypse isn’t canon).

  • @yawkeyboy1996
    @yawkeyboy1996 Рік тому +6

    I went to a double screening where they showed the first black panther movie then showed wakanda forever. It did get emotional at times watching both movies but I was glad I had the opportunity to see the first film again in theaters.

    • @eianblosch3341
      @eianblosch3341 Рік тому +2

      What theater does that? Because I would love to go to a quadruple screening of all the avengers movies before the Kang dynasty when it comes out

    • @yawkeyboy1996
      @yawkeyboy1996 Рік тому

      @@eianblosch3341 I went to AMC but from what I saw Regal and Cinemark were doing it as well.

  • @lanewaldon6450
    @lanewaldon6450 Рік тому +5

    I love how you mention X-men as Namor was Marvel's first published mutant and also fought alongside the Human Torch in one of his first appearances as well. Hulk is also in a weird position where his strength is potentially limitless so imo its not quite fair comparing strength to the Hulk

  • @wesleyr4846
    @wesleyr4846 Рік тому +1

    Cried hard at the end. Lost my grandmother to colon cancer on my birthday and not even a month later my mother gets diagnosed with it too. Colon cancer sucks

  • @lyzziekelly
    @lyzziekelly Рік тому +1

    I went in opening weekend and can confirm that everyone was crying. The opening credits is what got me the worst. No music, no commentary, just silence and his pictures 🥺.

  • @ArtByDesign80
    @ArtByDesign80 Рік тому +1

    16:17
    Lupita Nyong'o was born in Mexico City and has Kenyan and Mexican citizenship. She is a fluent speaker of English, Spanish, Luo, and Swahili.

  • @livingcoffee_edits
    @livingcoffee_edits Рік тому +2

    They never said he is as strong as the hulk, just that he might be as stong as the hulk as they don't know if he used his full strength while attacking the city

  • @marsasher1493
    @marsasher1493 Рік тому +4

    I remember opening night, the first 10-15 min the theatre was completely quiet, even during the marvel logo, and you could hear the sniffles, i was also a crying mess😂😂 love your content keep up the awesome work!

  • @stancinatti8198
    @stancinatti8198 Рік тому +8

    Yooo this movie was the best thing out of phase 4 this movie was so painful but beautiful Angela and shuri killed all their roles as well as namor love this film also that TikTok song is fire lmaooo

  • @centricgame
    @centricgame Рік тому +3

    the siren boat scene when the vocals picks up was terrifying opening night. it was amazing

  • @ShoreFell
    @ShoreFell 6 місяців тому

    I watched this in theaters on imax, and I can confirm that during the intro the entire theater was silent until the Marvel Studios logo came onscreen. To this day I sob seeing Chadwick Boseman and remembering what he represented. This film also has one of my favorite soundtracks of all time, and everyone’s performance was truly incredible.

  • @robertgronewold3326
    @robertgronewold3326 Рік тому +1

    Aquaman is actually a copy of Namor, as Namor came out two years before in 1939. They both were Atlantean in their respective comics, but because of the modern Aquaman film, they did a rework of they mythos for Namor in the MCU, and they made it pretty awesome as a result.

  • @jeffblue19onTwitter
    @jeffblue19onTwitter Рік тому +1

    "As strong as Hulk" is established in the comics. Namor is God-tier. He's a literal God, like Thor, which was discussed MULTIPLE times in the film. He's a mutant Aquaman basically, but stronger and more powerful...and more abilities (he can FLY). Dude is a fucking BOSS!

  • @luvvjor
    @luvvjor Рік тому +1

    Glad u waited to react to it and put it on UA-cam 🫶🏽 Love u Seb 🥺❤️

  • @BruceWayne-hr7vm
    @BruceWayne-hr7vm Рік тому +4

    Every single time, it needs to be explained over and over how a female character can fight a male one. Did you sleep through all her fight scenes in the previous movies, 'cause if T'Challa was trained why wouldn't she be as well. What part of the herb also giving her enhanced strength wasn't clear?

  • @sladewilson9718
    @sladewilson9718 Рік тому +3

    Watched this 3 times, still can’t decide whether Umbaku says as strong as the Oak, or Hulk. Both are funny for their own reasons😂😂

    • @SamBuckyForever
      @SamBuckyForever Рік тому

      I definitely thought he said as strong as the oak.

  • @tommytyfoon8983
    @tommytyfoon8983 Рік тому +2

    They didnt say namor was as strong as the hulk. They said he was potentially as strong as the hulk so they didnt know how strong he really is.

    • @Dr.HooWho
      @Dr.HooWho Рік тому

      Yeah like since hulk can just get stronger the angrier he gets

  • @a.r.5100
    @a.r.5100 Рік тому +2

    My god Seb, always having to be corrected. Baku said POSSIBLY as strong as the hulk and Baku has never seen the extent of the hulk's strength

  • @Pokefirefour
    @Pokefirefour Рік тому +2

    I can’t imagine waiting so long to watch wakanda forever 😮
    btw great video, have been waiting for this video for a long time!

  • @jonathanfoster4202
    @jonathanfoster4202 Рік тому +1

    Lupita Nyong’o actually spent her teenage years in Mexico, so she’s fluent in Spanish 16:18

  • @LonaMisa9
    @LonaMisa9 Рік тому +2

    they can't kill Namor, this is just his introduction into the MCU, he's an important figure for the Illuminati

  • @paddi5793
    @paddi5793 Рік тому +2

    imagine Killmonger - King of Wakanda and Namor - King of Talokan...
    damn they would take over the entire world together
    but honestly i would have been so happy if Killmonger got a change of heart and was the new Black Panther

  • @lisamusicsmithy
    @lisamusicsmithy Рік тому +5

    Yes, my hubby and I went opening day to see this movie and yes people cried in the cinema we could hear them.
    Myself included but for more personal reasons, the relationship between brother and sister hit me hard (I lost my 26 year old brother, 5 years ago) and at the end when shes sitting by the fire and u see flashbacks of her thoughts of them both I lost it as I have lost my own brother and all I have now are memories so I was in a mess by the movies end it hit me hard.
    Wonderful movie tho

  • @sunnys.2081
    @sunnys.2081 11 місяців тому

    watching this in the theater on opening night was absolutely heartbreaking, you could really hear everyone crying... it was so emotional.

  • @Prophaniti666
    @Prophaniti666 Рік тому +3

    Drinking challenge: take a shot every time Seb gets hung up over the "strong as the hulk" line. Try not to die.
    Seriously though, it was a throwaway line from an in-universe character (and one who likely has no idea of actually how strong the Hulk or Namor are). It doesn't mean anything other than "he's strong".

  • @MRSNIPER1730
    @MRSNIPER1730 Рік тому +1

    Yea everyone was teary eyed for sure i saw as soon as it came out

  • @olivialees3187
    @olivialees3187 Рік тому +1

    Always hype when Seb uploads🔥

  • @The_Movie_Minute
    @The_Movie_Minute Рік тому +1

    Opening night in the beginning of this film, entire theater was not sniffling they were bawling, their eyes out. Everyone of that theater was mourning the loss of T’Challa and Chadwick Boseman that night.

  • @TacticalPlaysYT
    @TacticalPlaysYT Рік тому +2

    Absolutely love this movie! Seeing this in the cinema was something else.

  • @sersastark
    @sersastark Рік тому +2

    Lupita who plays Nakia was born in Mexico so she speaks Spanish naturally. also it's not that they're friends. they're wartime allies. didnt you learn about wartime allies, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend?" that's what this is.

  • @domilovez
    @domilovez Рік тому +2

    So I think you are missing the point that when they drink the herb, the black panther is basically the avatar of the Goddess Bast, the panther God making Shuri strong enough to fight the avatar of Kukulan (Namor).

  • @legodoctorstrange
    @legodoctorstrange Рік тому +2

    18:37 Namor came first!
    Namor: 1939
    Aquaman: 1941

  • @leftofpunk
    @leftofpunk Рік тому +2

    They didn't say he was as strong as the Hulk, they said potentially as strong. This was based on the fact that he was tossed so easily into that tiki bar or whatever it was.

    • @cristianaragon292
      @cristianaragon292 Рік тому +1

      And in the comics he has held his own with him and hulk

  • @scottredding7357
    @scottredding7357 Рік тому +1

    Allegra de Fontaine being Bilbo's ex-wife ... the flying hearse for T'Challa ... Shuri's entrance as the Black Panther. This film had it all.

  • @arenee107
    @arenee107 Рік тому

    My mom, sister & i seen it theaters & yeah the first 5 minutes we were bawling. But everyone in the theater was.

  • @SandraMorris51
    @SandraMorris51 Рік тому

    Thanks for the reupload!

  • @AudsVids
    @AudsVids Рік тому +2

    Angela Bassett is so good in everything but she's amazing here. The pitch meeting for these also addresses the suits issue and is very good.

  • @ks8611
    @ks8611 Рік тому +2

    Yes, Seb, Riri/Ironheart will be getting her own show

  • @sourceow8795
    @sourceow8795 Рік тому

    The new character introduced was Riri Williams. And yes, she is getting a show titled "Ironheart" which is also her superhero name.

  • @vibebbx9184
    @vibebbx9184 Рік тому +1

    Keep in mind “strength of the hulk” not “endurance of the hulk” hence why he can’t eat punches like the hulk

  • @sweetrain50
    @sweetrain50 Рік тому +1

    Yaaay! You reacted to it!!

  • @deadlyfinish9791
    @deadlyfinish9791 Рік тому +1

    by far my favourite youtuber/content creator absolute legend