@@trevorheimler7520 2 started off well enough, he was involved for the first few episodes but then you could feel his absence. The rest of season 2 and all the way through season 4 were alright for what they were, but as the series went on, they had various episodes that were there that didn’t move the story along and were essentially there to just pad the seasons out as the series went from a 6 episode first season to a 13 episode second season and for the rest of the series the seasons have 16 episodes. I think the 11th and final season has a few more due to it ending, but I can’t remember off hand so I may be wrong with that. But they basically have more episodes, with the story drawn out more than it needed to be.
@@Jared_Wignall I think season 5 was the last enjoyable season. Season 6 had a couple good moments but overall yeah the show played its course and all it had was the likable cast that was gradually dwindling.
Spoilers: There were several good seasons in there. But the reveal at the end of season 2, that the girl they’ve been looking for the whole season was in the barn with the rest of the walkers, was a gut punch.
Can we just appreciate how Jeffrey Demunn (dale) was so loyal to darabont by deciding to leave as they had worked together on the Green mile. Seems like they where good friends
@@jaxchacky9358 He actually quit in loyalty to his friend. But Frank chided him and told him it was still a great role for him, and asked he not quit because of what had happened to him. Jeff went back to the producers to say he had a change of heart, but they told him the wheels were already in motion for his departure. It's quite clear that they didn't want Frank's long term collaborators on the show. And Jeff offering to quit, made it easy to get rid of one. But it also clearly shows why Laurie Holden was written out at the first opportunity, too. Look how long Andrea lived in the comic in comparison.
It baffles me how Vince Gilligan hasn't yet had a major creative control problem with AMC when it comes to Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul. I thinks he's worked with them for about 15 yrs. Not to say AMC are the good guys. They're clearly not. Maybe he has but it's just been hidden from the press due to studio compromises with him and NDA's?
@@Owen-ub3fv I thought about that. I think it's because TWD is a cash cow, and AMC wants to control it. Keep in mind I don't think AMC actually owns the rights to Breaking Bad or BCS. With TWD they actually own the rights to the show when it comes to TV/Film rights.
I can only wonder how much better the show would have been if Frank had stayed. All the stupid crap that was totally ridiculous in Seasons 6-8 would probably not have happened. Just terrible writing. Being pissed is fine, it happens, but saying crazy shit about killing people is never acceptable. Probably what got him fired.
It sounds like no one has ever told Frank no while working on a project before and he didn’t take it well. Threatening to harm people Is never acceptable, even if you have talent.
Not really enough reason to fire and a breach of his contract. That's why AMC ended up having to settle and paid him 200 million, just 50 million short of what he had sued them for.
There has to be some good in the ole boy. He brought too many of his actors along. People don't always remember the ones who help you get where you are. He did. Just watch The Mist, it's like watching TWD with all the familiar faces. Yes, season 1 is my favorite.
Yes I see a bunch of articles saying Frank actually fought for the cast and crew (pay and working conditions)....but it seems he ended up not liking a few of them.
They knew the man, his temper and his TALENT. That said, either the reality of who he was may have been too much to handle or AMC needed to make the extended deal to get him to sign on, once a hit was in the can well, so was he and the expenses that came with him. Ultimately it screwed the fans from realizing what WTD could have been in its best form, but that die was cast when Kirkman sold it to AMC and lost creative control due to budget. Hopefully, Skybound will find a way to build the Clementine story arc into a mainstream series that will follow a more gritty reality that Darabont hinted at and Tell Tale captured in its animated video game series.
The first season is still the best. The second was the worst for a long time. But you kept watching because it had so much potential. I kept watching casually. I waited to get behind several episodes then I would catch up. But after Rick left, it just wasn’t the same.
What I Ioved about the show was not the action or plot, it was those simple moments of humanity between crises, from characters you were invested in. It was seeing how they were getting by and imagining what you'd do if in that position. It was the tightness of the group- they became a family. To me I think the CDC episode is what really started the beef with kirkman. Personally I didn't like the CDC episode at all but I love everything else Frank did and think the show would have remained extremely strong if he'd stayed with it. The show was still good for a few years, and tolerable for a few more, but it was just never the same post Frank.
I don't think he has a dark side. I just think he was angry in those emails that got leaked to the press because he genuinely cared about the show and the wellbeing of others. Not for his own vanity or ego. Now I don't know him personally but Frank Darabount seems like an incredibly smart and caring man. Like James Cameron but with more of a kind human quality about him. I get the impression he is just like Andy Dufresne from the Shawshank redemption and wrote a lot of himself into that character. A champion for the common good and good people. You can't blame him for losing his temper with those AMC execs. They are unfoundedly horrible and stupid excuses for human beings. Trust me.
Honestly his crazy emails don't even come across that crazy to me. Yeah it wouldn't fly in most jobs, but in creative fields like film, I feel like it could've been so much worse. I think they did him dirty for sure, but I'm not convinced the show was worse off without him in the long run. Here's one thing I will never, ever, understand: why on earth would they cut the budget after the shoe's successful first season? Honestly it's a miracle the show is as good as it is given AMC and all the behind the scenes drama with showrunners.
Greed maybe - AMC in court says that the lawsuits are because these people (Frank, Robert, Gale, etc) are greedy. These people are saying it's AMC that is greedy. A judge will decide. So greed seems to be the best answer to why they expected twice the production for way less $.
No doubt if it weren’t for Frank Darabont, there is no Walking Dead show. It definitely sounds like Frank and AMC had a tumultuous relationship. Like Andrea said to Shane about his ideas & opinions being right it’s just that his approach was all wrong, this sounds like what happened to Frank. No matter what you have to get your point across in a respectful manner. It sounds like Frank failed to a certain degree behind the scenes in that area. With that said, season 1 was indeed brilliant. It’s hard to say how the Walking Dead would’ve turned out if Frank wasn’t ousted. Keeping in mind as much of a genius Frank might be, he isn’t perfect. When making The Shawshank Redemption, Frank wanted the ending to be Red riding the bus on his way to see Andy. After this ending failed with test audiences his hand was forced to have the ending of Red making it to the beach to be reunited with Andy (this ending being very much against Frank’s will) completing a magnificent ending to a movie everyone loves.
All good points. It's hard to work with people - Frank with people or people with Frank - I've had the same issues on projects. Minus the genius part haha
I wish he was able to keep his cool. I mean they probably would have fired him even if he didn’t say anything about killing people. He had a right to be pissed about everything he talked about. They let Vince Gilligan and his crew have complete creative control over breaking bad. It should have been the same here it’s so disappointing.
It would’ve benefited the series in the long run had he stayed on, but they fired him and wanted to shoot the show with a limited budget. Financially AMC made the right call but as a result, the shows legacy is just being a stepping stone for other projects and having seasons that all vary in quality.
Now there's a tiny girl slaughtering waves of walking dead. I like Darabont for all the work he's put into the horror genre, I think there's way too much mindless nonsense in the show now, it's meant to be horrific and yet we never get to embrace that. I think he was right about a lot of those working on it, sad thing is that those same people now run the damn thing.
I totally agree with you. Although I think his frustration is 100% warranted, the words he chose were his mistake. I now don't blame AMC for cutting ties. I always hated th decision but now, I see things in a new light.
The episode where Dale dies you can tell the quality of the show took an unfathomable unfathomable dip after that, to me it was Frank's last episode Think about the season 2 finale it was all shooting up guns a blazing instead of scary
The show would have survived all the way to season 25. Even if he had stayed on as a adviser after season 11 had ended. I think the show would have had a much bigger following and fan base if Frank had stayed, because he was a great big famous Director and he was a real good story teller director. Frank could have greatly saved the series from low viewership.
Hi James, nice content, as ever. I believe geniuses are often difficult to live and work with. Darabont is, clearly, a genius. If Frank was allowed to advance the show his way what a feast we would have had. Even Covid 19 would have been afraid to interrupt the schedule! Even with the poor writing and production that followed him the seeds he sowed in terms of pace, mood, drama and spectacle ensured 10 more seasons of ever more diluted action and, in most cases, inaction. I can only dream of where Darabont would have taken this show. It just shows you don't have to be a genius to be an asshole but, usually, in my experience you need to be an asshole to be a genius.
Thanks for the insight. I still wish Frank was involved. Loved the show until about season 5 and it went downhill fast. I use to have such anticipation for the episodes to be let down equally each week back then. Edit: the email about killing people and throwing out the door. I hear it, I understand how you interpreted it. But I kind of hear it differently as he is talking about killing characters off. Maybe I’m being naive. But that’s how I take it.
The Walking Dead had the most Awesome beginning you could ask for...... Kirkman and Darabont - Just Genius...... The rest is petty bs...... How about some gratitude that he got the whole thing rolling ?! I have never stopped watching..... Through the good, the sad, and the shocking, its all pure Magic to me...... TWD got me through some crazy times in real life, and I will always be Thankful......
I don't think Frank is the asshole you're making him out to be here. Look at Sam Witwer when he's talking about TWD and Frank. If everyone was afraid of Frank and only talks good about him because of it, it would be noticed. Sam did not show any signs of that. He talks like he means what he says about Frank. You also have many actors that have been in numerous movies with Frank directing, which I doubt would happen if Frank was an asshole. However, sometimes you do need to be an asshole to get your point across.
I do not know either way about Frank for sure - but I have been the boss many many times and it's hard not to be called an asshole by people - no matter what happened. Just the way it is. I agree that people like Sam and Andrew Lincoln do not say bad things about Frank - he was one of the main reasons Andrew said yes to the part.
The man is talented. But please remember this. In any line of work in any company in the world there is a code of conduct. Regardless of talent or skill if any employee said to their bosses about colleagues what Darabont said it would be an instant dismissal case.
Never new about all the details. Man that's crazy. If things could have been different I wonder how different the show would be if he had stayed around much longer.
Man I loved season 1 it’s def in my top favorite seasons of all the shows.. but some things just still bug me till this day! Like the walkers using bricks and climbing ladders and tall fences or the little girl picking up her doll.. when I go back and Watch season 1 those things get to me.. only because they never do those things ever Again.. I try to imaging if the show kept the walkers that way and kept them smart what would the show be like..
Everything about season 1 and 2 gave the real vibes of a real zombie movie. It was art. But I don't think TWD would have lasted as long on TV if he was still there
@@TWDExplained well…take away the hat, the southern drawl and the darkness of the mustache, and he basically resembles Frank. He’s constantly claiming to be the voice of God (echoing Franks detractors, basically saying he’s a megalomaniac) and he’s obsessed with family and he’s kinda sentimental and emotional. I mean……I don’t really believe that that’s what deliberately happened, per se……but if it was, I can’t say I’d be that surprised. AMC says “final season? Let’s make a villain look like Darabont for fun.”
He made the show what it is. If anybody that came after him were the ones who initiated the show, it would have been just like any mediocre TV show. It is correct that they hire completely incompetent writers and 'talent'. Over paid who do their 'job' but with zero actual talent. And high incompetence and lack of professionalism. It is evident throughout all Walking Dead TV how bad some of the writers are. While others are decent. Nobody came close to Frank. However, it was completely his fault for getting canned. There was no conspiracy. No dirty motives. No bureaucracy or corporate politics. He was 100% out of line and unprofessional in his own way. There is zero excuse for ever losing your temper. Yes there were problems with the production. But no matter how major, you address it in a civil and professional/respectful manner. And present yourself as a positive individual to be around.
I've watched interviews with Jon betnthal and Sara wyane calis and they both said that frank was amazing and when he was fired it was all about money and timing if he would of stayed on the show much longer he would of been making more money that's all it comes down to course AMC tried to make it about other things
Just stumbled on this but great video. AMC was moronic for firing this dude. Think about what Walking Dead could have been with 1 competent director doing 5-9 seasons instead of the soap opera it became
Everyone who has ever worked know that in creative projects you say things you dont mean when the pressure builds up, i believe he just cared really much for his show and he could have made great things. PS. If you pay people to work and they dont do their work as they should after you told them how to do it, i mean yeah fuck them.
I would say that was way to far on his part.. like you don’t just threaten people’s lives over things not going your way.. that’s life? I feel he may of had a few brews before writing that lol but still yeah you don’t say things like that
I dunno man if u experienced the shit that he did u might do the same thing Its like the kid that says a joke then other kid says the same joke and everyone laughs , he revived a somewhat dead genre at that time he bŕought a team a cast his stroytelling... just so it gets taken out by a greedy company to me that is too far ,
Watching this show and getting angry about the decisions they have made, how things are portrayed, the focal plot points, and the morality, often makes me upset, and feels like they seriously squandered this show. It is painful how things continually do not make sense with the zombies and they seemingly change things on the fly. That would not be happening with the high-level Darabont who had huge drive, will, and vision for this show. For it to go 11 seasons....it makes me so sad to wonder how it could have been had it kept him at the helm and had the production crew actually been up to par. Still not good for him to say those things of course. It sucks. I can barely get through the last few seasons. Just started season 10, trying to get through it to see this out, but its been rough. Hope Darabont gets what he deserves if they did him wrong.
I don't really have an opinion on any of thos but I will say this.....Season 2 was is and always will be my favorite season. Seasons 1 and 2 are what got me into the show. 3 was good but from 3 on the show changed alot. My favorite time period was frank darabonts baby. So maybe he was better for the show...idk
I don't know why people still try to defend anything after season 2 The only good thing was in season 3 is David Morrissey, in season 4/5 terminus and carol Rambo mode was enjoyable but that's all. Anything else is pure shit including the new characters
@@MonasteryOfSilence Actually, i’ve owned and run a successful business for fifteen years. Based on how mad you got from my one off the cuff comment I feel you have anger issues and I feel sorry for anyone forced to work on a project with you. Please consider anger management classes and maybe a girlfriend or boyfriend. 😻
@@thecatnat3574 You must feel very smart after that comment. I wasnt even mad by the way and since you feel i have anger issues from a random comment in the internet you should close the successful business you run and become a psychic, about considering a girlfriend or boyfriend i could use your cat Nat :D
Yeah, I hate to say it, but Darabont had it coming. He was good, but you have to maintain your professionalism. He sounded kind of arrogant, like he's the only one who knows what to do.
And looks like he was actually the only one who knew what to do because the show nosedived in quality after he left. Frank is one of all time greatest filmmakers and those angry rants need to be taken in context, AMC screwed him and he was given an incompetent crew, people often say things they regret after when they are pissed off, it's not like he lost his cool in normal circumstances.
@@kdscool1536 , true. I often wonder what the show could've been if he had stayed. I know the budget was a huge source of contention. I can see today how a low budget has affected the quality of the show.
The first few seasons were great. Once they started killing off characters and bringing in new people to fallow that i had no care for i stopped watching it.
Just me! My opinion ONLY! AMC EXISTED before the TWD! Back then they showed Old western movies exclusively! So, maybe the executive of the channel resented the stock holders for wanting more diversity in programming. So, they chose the show because they wanted TWD to Fail!
I think Frank was completely justified and everything he said. One it's just words. People are too damn affected by words. Also, we need to judge somebody on their actions. Anyway, Frank Derabonte is the director of the series. He brought it to life. AMC is just the money that's it. The man has a filmography to marvel at. He directed 2 of the greatest films ever made. Now,'The Walking Dead' was his new baby, and he wanted it to look the way he wanted. Studios are constantly coming in and messing with the directors vision. These idiots are not being paid to be imaginative. They don't know the first thing about storytelling. It is JUST a product to them. Not an art form. These Studio heads need to stay in their lane. They are the business side of the agreement. Leave the production to the storytellers. That is why they were hired for their imagination. There is always an agreement before production. An agreement to what Frank would be allowed to do and what he wanted. Somebody went back on their word, and I don't think it was Frank.
ON THE DARK SIDE The dark side's callin' now, nothin' is real She'll never know just how I feel From out of the shadows she walks like a dream Make me feel crazy, make me feel so mean Ain't nothin' gonna save you from the love that's blind Slip to the dark side and cross that line On the dark side, oh yeah On the dark side, oh yeah
Imagine how much better seasons 2-8 would have been with him
Were they bad?
@@trevorheimler7520 2 started off well enough, he was involved for the first few episodes but then you could feel his absence. The rest of season 2 and all the way through season 4 were alright for what they were, but as the series went on, they had various episodes that were there that didn’t move the story along and were essentially there to just pad the seasons out as the series went from a 6 episode first season to a 13 episode second season and for the rest of the series the seasons have 16 episodes. I think the 11th and final season has a few more due to it ending, but I can’t remember off hand so I may be wrong with that. But they basically have more episodes, with the story drawn out more than it needed to be.
@@Jared_Wignall I think season 5 was the last enjoyable season. Season 6 had a couple good moments but overall yeah the show played its course and all it had was the likable cast that was gradually dwindling.
Spoilers: There were several good seasons in there. But the reveal at the end of season 2, that the girl they’ve been looking for the whole season was in the barn with the rest of the walkers, was a gut punch.
would’ve been amazing, season 2 was my fave honestly
Can we just appreciate how Jeffrey Demunn (dale) was so loyal to darabont by deciding to leave as they had worked together on the Green mile. Seems like they where good friends
Poo Poo they also worked together on Shawshank and The Mist
@@nicholaslindsey7087 glad somebody mentioned them movies.
Oh so that's the reason why dale died so quickly! Man I miss Dale, he was one of my favorite character :(
And the x files first film
@@jaxchacky9358 He actually quit in loyalty to his friend. But Frank chided him and told him it was still a great role for him, and asked he not quit because of what had happened to him. Jeff went back to the producers to say he had a change of heart, but they told him the wheels were already in motion for his departure. It's quite clear that they didn't want Frank's long term collaborators on the show. And Jeff offering to quit, made it easy to get rid of one. But it also clearly shows why Laurie Holden was written out at the first opportunity, too. Look how long Andrea lived in the comic in comparison.
I’ll forever be grateful for this man. Without him The Walking Dead would have just been a comic. Franks the reason I found this universe
Don’t understand the logic of halting the budget and demanding twice the number of episodes of a smash hit show
Greedy, why put some much effort when we can milk the audience with minimal work
But isn't AMC being sued by like 12 different people over this show. Something is definitely not right with AMC.🤔
Yep - Robert Kirkman, Gale Ann Hurd and Glenn Mazzara to name 3 others.
Why?
@@T2G-DJT money, and having control of the show wrestled from them. Or something like that
It baffles me how Vince Gilligan hasn't yet had a major creative control problem with AMC when it comes to Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul. I thinks he's worked with them for about 15 yrs. Not to say AMC are the good guys. They're clearly not. Maybe he has but it's just been hidden from the press due to studio compromises with him and NDA's?
@@Owen-ub3fv I thought about that. I think it's because TWD is a cash cow, and AMC wants to control it. Keep in mind I don't think AMC actually owns the rights to Breaking Bad or BCS. With TWD they actually own the rights to the show when it comes to TV/Film rights.
It's a shame, It would of been epic if Darabont stayed on board!
I can only wonder how much better the show would have been if Frank had stayed. All the stupid crap that was totally ridiculous in Seasons 6-8 would probably not have happened. Just terrible writing. Being pissed is fine, it happens, but saying crazy shit about killing people is never acceptable. Probably what got him fired.
Mike yep, you're probably right.
It sounds like no one has ever told Frank no while working on a project before and he didn’t take it well. Threatening to harm people Is never acceptable, even if you have talent.
Not really enough reason to fire and a breach of his contract. That's why AMC ended up having to settle and paid him 200 million, just 50 million short of what he had sued them for.
He would have ended it a lot sooner
@@NawiTheCore threatening to kill your employees is not enough of a reason to get fired? ….mmmmk.
AMC screwed him. The facts don’t lie.
I want to know how he would have handled the Prison Arc
Frank directory of twd is so nostalgic to me as a zombie genre fan
The whole show would have been better with Darabont in charge instead of Gimple.
Way better.
There has to be some good in the ole boy. He brought too many of his actors along.
People don't always remember the ones who help you get where you are. He did.
Just watch The Mist, it's like watching TWD with all the familiar faces.
Yes, season 1 is my favorite.
Yes I see a bunch of articles saying Frank actually fought for the cast and crew (pay and working conditions)....but it seems he ended up not liking a few of them.
I really liked how cinematic the show looked back in season 1 and specially epsoide 1, it was like a true horror movie
They knew the man, his temper and his TALENT. That said, either the reality of who he was may have been too much to handle or AMC needed to make the extended deal to get him to sign on, once a hit was in the can well, so was he and the expenses that came with him. Ultimately it screwed the fans from realizing what WTD could have been in its best form, but that die was cast when Kirkman sold it to AMC and lost creative control due to budget. Hopefully, Skybound will find a way to build the Clementine story arc into a mainstream series that will follow a more gritty reality that Darabont hinted at and Tell Tale captured in its animated video game series.
Season 1 is the best. Pilot episode is a masterpiece its deserve oscar
The first season is still the best. The second was the worst for a long time. But you kept watching because it had so much potential. I kept watching casually. I waited to get behind several episodes then I would catch up. But after Rick left, it just wasn’t the same.
AMC Wanted To Control A Show They Had No Passion For .
What I Ioved about the show was not the action or plot, it was those simple moments of humanity between crises, from characters you were invested in. It was seeing how they were getting by and imagining what you'd do if in that position. It was the tightness of the group- they became a family.
To me I think the CDC episode is what really started the beef with kirkman. Personally I didn't like the CDC episode at all but I love everything else Frank did and think the show would have remained extremely strong if he'd stayed with it.
The show was still good for a few years, and tolerable for a few more, but it was just never the same post Frank.
Yeah that thing about "what would I do" was the thing that really drew me in
I don't think he has a dark side. I just think he was angry in those emails that got leaked to the press because he genuinely cared about the show and the wellbeing of others. Not for his own vanity or ego.
Now I don't know him personally but Frank Darabount seems like an incredibly smart and caring man. Like James Cameron but with more of a kind human quality about him. I get the impression he is just like Andy Dufresne from the Shawshank redemption and wrote a lot of himself into that character. A champion for the common good and good people. You can't blame him for losing his temper with those AMC execs. They are unfoundedly horrible and stupid excuses for human beings. Trust me.
Imagine how good the show would’ve been if he wasn’t fired
His departure sealed the fate of Walking Dead in the long term. They ruined the Show...
Honestly his crazy emails don't even come across that crazy to me. Yeah it wouldn't fly in most jobs, but in creative fields like film, I feel like it could've been so much worse. I think they did him dirty for sure, but I'm not convinced the show was worse off without him in the long run. Here's one thing I will never, ever, understand: why on earth would they cut the budget after the shoe's successful first season? Honestly it's a miracle the show is as good as it is given AMC and all the behind the scenes drama with showrunners.
Greed maybe - AMC in court says that the lawsuits are because these people (Frank, Robert, Gale, etc) are greedy. These people are saying it's AMC that is greedy. A judge will decide. So greed seems to be the best answer to why they expected twice the production for way less $.
Keep doing Frank and season 1 videos...
Many more S1 videos to come - Filming the Tank Downtown, Amy's Death, The 1st Zombie, 1st Comic-Con and more!
No doubt if it weren’t for Frank Darabont, there is no Walking Dead show. It definitely sounds like Frank and AMC had a tumultuous relationship. Like Andrea said to Shane about his ideas & opinions being right it’s just that his approach was all wrong, this sounds like what happened to Frank. No matter what you have to get your point across in a respectful manner. It sounds like Frank failed to a certain degree behind the scenes in that area. With that said, season 1 was indeed brilliant. It’s hard to say how the Walking Dead would’ve turned out if Frank wasn’t ousted. Keeping in mind as much of a genius Frank might be, he isn’t perfect. When making The Shawshank Redemption, Frank wanted the ending to be Red riding the bus on his way to see Andy. After this ending failed with test audiences his hand was forced to have the ending of Red making it to the beach to be reunited with Andy (this ending being very much against Frank’s will) completing a magnificent ending to a movie everyone loves.
All good points. It's hard to work with people - Frank with people or people with Frank - I've had the same issues on projects. Minus the genius part haha
I wish he was able to keep his cool. I mean they probably would have fired him even if he didn’t say anything about killing people. He had a right to be pissed about everything he talked about. They let Vince Gilligan and his crew have complete creative control over breaking bad. It should have been the same here it’s so disappointing.
It would’ve benefited the series in the long run had he stayed on, but they fired him and wanted to shoot the show with a limited budget. Financially AMC made the right call but as a result, the shows legacy is just being a stepping stone for other projects and having seasons that all vary in quality.
Now there's a tiny girl slaughtering waves of walking dead. I like Darabont for all the work he's put into the horror genre, I think there's way too much mindless nonsense in the show now, it's meant to be horrific and yet we never get to embrace that. I think he was right about a lot of those working on it, sad thing is that those same people now run the damn thing.
Where lmao
If frank was directing that little girl would have gotten a bullet to the head like Rick did his first zombie kill lmao
I totally agree with you. Although I think his frustration is 100% warranted, the words he chose were his mistake. I now don't blame AMC for cutting ties. I always hated th decision but now, I see things in a new light.
thanks for watching!
The episode where Dale dies you can tell the quality of the show took an unfathomable unfathomable dip after that, to me it was Frank's last episode Think about the season 2 finale it was all shooting up guns a blazing instead of scary
Dale dies what the hell .thanks dumb dumb
I freaking love season 2.
The show would have survived all the way to season 25. Even if he had stayed on as a adviser after season 11 had ended.
I think the show would have had a much bigger following and fan base if Frank had stayed, because he was a great big famous Director and he was a real good story teller director. Frank could have greatly saved the series from low viewership.
Hi James, nice content, as ever. I believe geniuses are often difficult to live and work with. Darabont is, clearly, a genius. If Frank was allowed to advance the show his way what a feast we would have had. Even Covid 19 would have been afraid to interrupt the schedule! Even with the poor writing and production that followed him the seeds he sowed in terms of pace, mood, drama and spectacle ensured 10 more seasons of ever more diluted action and, in most cases, inaction. I can only dream of where Darabont would have taken this show. It just shows you don't have to be a genius to be an asshole but, usually, in my experience you need to be an asshole to be a genius.
Must be why I am difficult to live and work with haha - thanks for the comment William Green!
James, you sound very thoughtful and considerate. Not all geniuses have to be aholes!
Thanks!!
Thanks for the insight.
I still wish Frank was involved. Loved the show until about season 5 and it went downhill fast.
I use to have such anticipation for the episodes to be let down equally each week back then.
Edit: the email about killing people and throwing out the door. I hear it, I understand how you interpreted it. But I kind of hear it differently as he is talking about killing characters off.
Maybe I’m being naive. But that’s how I take it.
Thanks for the view and comment!
yes - that could be what he meant.
He was fired just weeks before he was about to be financially vested in the show. Something really stank there....
AMC dumb af, amazed they kept breaking bad up. Probably just got lucky with that masterpiece.
The lawsuit ended as of 2 hours ago. Darabont received 200 million dollars in compensation
Yep! Glad it's over and he got something!
"I believe there is another man inside everyman"
-Thomas Jane
The Walking Dead had the most Awesome beginning you could ask for...... Kirkman and Darabont - Just Genius...... The rest is petty bs...... How about some gratitude that he got the whole thing rolling ?! I have never stopped watching..... Through the good, the sad, and the shocking, its all pure Magic to me...... TWD got me through some crazy times in real life, and I will always be Thankful......
Did you see this video I did on Frank? ua-cam.com/video/YRpMNlMm-NI/v-deo.html
Amazing content sir, thank you for keep up the great work for all these years.
Thank you for the views and comments!
I don't think Frank is the asshole you're making him out to be here. Look at Sam Witwer when he's talking about TWD and Frank. If everyone was afraid of Frank and only talks good about him because of it, it would be noticed. Sam did not show any signs of that. He talks like he means what he says about Frank. You also have many actors that have been in numerous movies with Frank directing, which I doubt would happen if Frank was an asshole. However, sometimes you do need to be an asshole to get your point across.
I do not know either way about Frank for sure - but I have been the boss many many times and it's hard not to be called an asshole by people - no matter what happened. Just the way it is. I agree that people like Sam and Andrew Lincoln do not say bad things about Frank - he was one of the main reasons Andrew said yes to the part.
The man is talented. But please remember this. In any line of work in any company in the world there is a code of conduct. Regardless of talent or skill if any employee said to their bosses about colleagues what Darabont said it would be an instant dismissal case.
One way or another, AMC would be financially smart to settle the lawsuit with Frank Darabont.
Agreed
Never new about all the details. Man that's crazy. If things could have been different I wonder how different the show would be if he had stayed around much longer.
We might at least have had an epsiode called Fall of Atlanta
@@TWDExplained Gosh that would have been really cool. I would love to see more of that.
Man I loved season 1 it’s def in my top favorite seasons of all the shows.. but some things just still bug me till this day! Like the walkers using bricks and climbing ladders and tall fences or the little girl picking up her doll.. when I go back and
Watch season 1 those things get to me.. only because they never do those things ever Again.. I try to imaging if the show kept the walkers that way and kept them smart what would the show be like..
But thanks for your videos man and thanks for the rick grimes action figure man!
Frank was the Lord of the Flies. He had flies in almost every episode of season 1.
Fuck you really don’t hear any flys post season 2. Never noticed
Everything about season 1 and 2 gave the real vibes of a real zombie movie. It was art. But I don't think TWD would have lasted as long on TV if he was still there
…you wonder if the character Pope from season 11A was a subtle dig at this Frank? I can’t unsee it.
hmmm explain more
@@TWDExplained well…take away the hat, the southern drawl and the darkness of the mustache, and he basically resembles Frank. He’s constantly claiming to be the voice of God (echoing Franks detractors, basically saying he’s a megalomaniac) and he’s obsessed with family and he’s kinda sentimental and emotional.
I mean……I don’t really believe that that’s what deliberately happened, per se……but if it was, I can’t say I’d be that surprised. AMC says “final season? Let’s make a villain look like Darabont for fun.”
S6E2 JSS is the best shot episode in the series. Respect for Jennifer Lynch. D. Lynch's daughter. I wish she did every episode.
After finishing season 1 few times I really wish Frank wasn’t fired AMC really fked up the show nowadays..
He made the show what it is. If anybody that came after him were the ones who initiated the show, it would have been just like any mediocre TV show. It is correct that they hire completely incompetent writers and 'talent'. Over paid who do their 'job' but with zero actual talent. And high incompetence and lack of professionalism. It is evident throughout all Walking Dead TV how bad some of the writers are. While others are decent. Nobody came close to Frank. However, it was completely his fault for getting canned. There was no conspiracy. No dirty motives. No bureaucracy or corporate politics. He was 100% out of line and unprofessional in his own way. There is zero excuse for ever losing your temper. Yes there were problems with the production. But no matter how major, you address it in a civil and professional/respectful manner. And present yourself as a positive individual to be around.
I've watched interviews with Jon betnthal and Sara wyane calis and they both said that frank was amazing and when he was fired it was all about money and timing if he would of stayed on the show much longer he would of been making more money that's all it comes down to course AMC tried to make it about other things
What's sad is you can tell almost immediately how the show changed the first season was amazing and it slowly got worse and worse after he was fired
He cared and I love the emails 😊
See what's gotta me scratching my head now the name of the spin offs aren't even named TWD I wonder if Kirkman is gonna get the boot.
Just stumbled on this but great video. AMC was moronic for firing this dude. Think about what Walking Dead could have been with 1 competent director doing 5-9 seasons instead of the soap opera it became
Thanks for watching!
Everyone who has ever worked know that in creative projects you say things you dont mean when the pressure builds up, i believe he just cared really much for his show and he could have made great things.
PS. If you pay people to work and they dont do their work as they should after you told them how to do it, i mean yeah fuck them.
I would say that was way to far on his part.. like you don’t just threaten people’s lives over things not going your way.. that’s life? I feel he may of had a few brews before writing that lol but still yeah you don’t say things like that
I dunno man if u experienced the shit that he did u might do the same thing
Its like the kid that says a joke then other kid says the same joke and everyone laughs , he revived a somewhat dead genre at that time he bŕought a team a cast his stroytelling... just so it gets taken out by a greedy company to me that is too far ,
Great director. But I imagine he would be tough to work for. A bit like a Gordon Ramsey of the film set. Same with James Cameron I have heard.
Watching this show and getting angry about the decisions they have made, how things are portrayed, the focal plot points, and the morality, often makes me upset, and feels like they seriously squandered this show. It is painful how things continually do not make sense with the zombies and they seemingly change things on the fly. That would not be happening with the high-level Darabont who had huge drive, will, and vision for this show. For it to go 11 seasons....it makes me so sad to wonder how it could have been had it kept him at the helm and had the production crew actually been up to par. Still not good for him to say those things of course. It sucks. I can barely get through the last few seasons. Just started season 10, trying to get through it to see this out, but its been rough. Hope Darabont gets what he deserves if they did him wrong.
I don't really have an opinion on any of thos but I will say this.....Season 2 was is and always will be my favorite season. Seasons 1 and 2 are what got me into the show. 3 was good but from 3 on the show changed alot. My favorite time period was frank darabonts baby. So maybe he was better for the show...idk
he had a more 'movie' type of doing it - where it changed to standard TV drama stuff after - Thanks for watching!
Emails like that are necessary to wake people up . Then people got soft and couldn’t take heat
Season 1 was something better most all the other seasons feeling the zombie how they move the acting places they went CDC
I don't know why people still try to defend anything after season 2
The only good thing was in season 3 is David Morrissey, in season 4/5 terminus and carol Rambo mode was enjoyable but that's all. Anything else is pure shit including the new characters
I think think that season one should had lasted another ten episodes
Can someone help me and please tell me where I can watch fear of the walking dead for free
You can stream it on Roko for free if you have Roko.
look at any " ftwd free online" but not in google. look through duckduckgo.
Okay would u mind if there was arabic subtitles ?
pro duck I found out it’s on Hulu and thankfully I have Hulu lol , thanks away bro
@@vaustinx2894 np mate, sheers
I wonder if Gimple was one of the lazy writers Darabont was referring to
Darabont: Gimple is a lazy writer
AMC: Let's promote Gimple to Chief Content Officer over all of the TWDU
@@TWDExplainedGimple is AMC’s Yes Man after all.
amc settled for 200m. when will they learn
A professional always keep their cool.
What are you? 10 years old or you ve never worked in a creative project? Every adult knows how heated things can become...
@@MonasteryOfSilence Actually, i’ve owned and run a successful business for fifteen years. Based on how mad you got from my one off the cuff comment I feel you have anger issues and I feel sorry for anyone forced to work on a project with you. Please consider anger management classes and maybe a girlfriend or boyfriend. 😻
@@thecatnat3574 You must feel very smart after that comment. I wasnt even mad by the way and since you feel i have anger issues from a random comment in the internet you should close the successful business you run and become a psychic, about considering a girlfriend or boyfriend i could use your cat Nat :D
@@MonasteryOfSilence A little rapey are we? 😂
@@thecatnat3574 You fancy?
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Yeah, I hate to say it, but Darabont had it coming. He was good, but you have to maintain your professionalism. He sounded kind of arrogant, like he's the only one who knows what to do.
By comparison to Gimple, he did
He was pretty amazing tbf
He Gives Me Quentin Tarantino Vibes *
And looks like he was actually the only one who knew what to do because the show nosedived in quality after he left. Frank is one of all time greatest filmmakers and those angry rants need to be taken in context, AMC screwed him and he was given an incompetent crew, people often say things they regret after when they are pissed off, it's not like he lost his cool in normal circumstances.
@@kdscool1536 , true. I often wonder what the show could've been if he had stayed. I know the budget was a huge source of contention. I can see today how a low budget has affected the quality of the show.
The first few seasons were great. Once they started killing off characters and bringing in new people to fallow that i had no care for i stopped watching it.
Just me! My opinion ONLY! AMC EXISTED before the TWD! Back then they showed Old western movies exclusively! So, maybe the executive of the channel resented the stock holders for wanting more diversity in programming. So, they chose the show because they wanted TWD to Fail!
The emails are old news..
Yep, just adding a dark side video to the ones I recently done about him - all good.
@@TWDExplained Ah kk, cool then
1-2 were perfect
3-5 were good
6-9 were so so
This show could’ve been the best show ever if they kept Frank.
I think Frank was completely justified and everything he said. One it's just words. People are too damn affected by words. Also, we need to judge somebody on their actions. Anyway, Frank Derabonte is the director of the series. He brought it to life. AMC is just the money that's it. The man has a filmography to marvel at. He directed 2 of the greatest films ever made. Now,'The Walking Dead' was his new baby, and he wanted it to look the way he wanted. Studios are constantly coming in and messing with the directors vision. These idiots are not being paid to be imaginative. They don't know the first thing about storytelling. It is JUST a product to them. Not an art form. These Studio heads need to stay in their lane. They are the business side of the agreement. Leave the production to the storytellers. That is why they were hired for their imagination. There is always an agreement before production. An agreement to what Frank would be allowed to do and what he wanted. Somebody went back on their word, and I don't think it was Frank.
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Will I get pinned? 🤷♂️
Nope, sorry
All i know is that the show quality went downhill after episode 7 of season 2!!!
FIRST!
ON THE DARK SIDE
The dark side's callin' now, nothin' is real
She'll never know just how I feel
From out of the shadows she walks like a dream
Make me feel crazy, make me feel so mean
Ain't nothin' gonna save you from the love that's blind
Slip to the dark side and cross that line
On the dark side, oh yeah
On the dark side, oh yeah
Why did I post lyrics? I have no idea.
The guy is a genius