Bandai please, do NOT try to price match these minis to complete with GW. Your game will fail. If I can buy and build an 8 inch, articulated and color molded Gunpla for the cost of ~5 40k minis, in grey plastic, I should be able to build the equivalent of a full GW ARMY for the cost of a Perfect Grade. You have better technology and production capacity than GW, what you don't have is the same amount of brand recognition in the west. Despite how popular Gundam has gotten in recent years. Play into your strengths and succeed. Play GWs game and this will crash and burn like G-EVO
@@11AleZZ it would be a bit like Battletech in that regard. You can buy more minis, but if you own a dozen or even less you are set to play for the rest of your life unless you do want more. That's a cool way to gain new players.
@franciscoduarteauthor the problem is the complexity and balance, in this class of low level complexity of games, balance tend to be bad, so most wargamers don't gonna get in to the game beyond the novelty, Bandai have 0 experience in this class of games
I think the main deciding factor of if this game lives or dies is how well Bandai can keep their ear to the ground and really listen to the community. They need good community managers for every main region. I also think if this game becomes a hit, it could hurt GW's future growth. They're going to catch all the people who bounce off of the high cost of entry for 40k. Even KillTeam requires that you either magnetize some of your minis or buy a second $55-$60 box. If it's like BattleTech where you only need $30-$40 bucks for a team, they're going to nab GW's future potential customers.
Until everyone who is interested gets referred for speech therapy for saying the stupidest term ever “gunpla” I’m excited about this, but seriously there is nothing pleasant about that word in English.
I don't think GW will get ruined by Bandi's new miniature game, but I think Bandi in some ways will hurt GW. Bandi is a much larger company and has a larger catalog of model kits, and products line. Hell, they beat GW in the entertainment side of things back in the late 70's and early 80's.
@Scaevola9449 And to add, if you do buy something expensive from Bandi. It actually feels like it's worth the buy. Not buying a $55 for a kit of 10 guardsman, but $55 for a Master Grade? Makes way more sense
@@Lakefront_Khan I wish that they should though! Bandai should just create a TT PnP like gundam build fighters where you create your Gunpla using a point-buy system and then fight on your battles on the Tabletop! Maybe base the movement and positioning on a special action base.
Okay, so scale wise, what we are seeing is that the Ships are Map Scale. The Hex grid, much like Classic BattleTech, represents "sectors" of space. The Mobile Suit minis are not in actual scale with the map, or they would be tiny (like 6mm infantry tiny), but are still small enough to fill the hex space that they are effectively in control of. As for the idea of any game being a "Warhammer Killer" that just plain isn't how it works, the only thing that can kill Warhammer is Warhammer.
He also doesn't like battletech or western mecha genre, even though it takes what classic gundam and other old Japanese mecha shows did by have a "realistic" setting for giant robots. Dude is a tourist and probably in constant flip flopping on what he actually likes
@TheCADDGUY I think this might be the only video of his I've seen. And I didn't even watch the while thing. Had it on in the background at work. He made the balanced comment and I laughed and skipped it. I withhold my opinions for now, for the most part.
They should make it super robot wars. Make it so you can play all gundam if you want, but also expand out into all the other crazy mech's they've mixed into those games.
God, not just for the sake of that main game, but for kitbashing. Evangelion Evas and Angels would be so good for Chaos, Boss Borot would be rad for Orks and the Aura Battlers would be perfect for Eldar.
Warhammer has been around for more than 40 years. If Star Wars Legion, Star Wars X Wing, Marvel Crisis Protocol, Batman Miniatures Game, Halo: Ground Wars etc etc didn't knock GW off the top spot then probably Gundam wont either.
it will be awkward if the minis has grassy/rocky themed base but then the battle took place in space so it's better to make it bare for flexibility. and i'm sure you can remove the base if you want the minis blend in better with the environment
I think the reason why they didny paint the bases is because they want the eye to focus on the figure (which they sell) and not in the base (which they dont sell)
Actually, I think it'sspecifcally because the bases are modeled after one of their "action bases" and want the minis to reflect that possibly as a nod to "We know you're gonna use these rules with HG gunpla, go buy our action bases to do it.
The play mats I've seen so far have been for space battles, I suspect the idea in leaving them plain was to make them look equally at home in space and other terrain. Clear plastic would have been an idea to go with that too.
Show of hands, who else is hoping they make a Big Zam? Both because I have no idea where to find an actual Gunpla of one, and also because I just really love the "UFO on legs" design. And yes I did first hear about it via that one Game Grumps bit, what of it?
I will be grabbing a zaku or three. If nothing else they will just chill with my zaku collection, but I hope they will work with my battletech stuff. I will give the game a go, but I have no desire to add another game to my collection. Between mcp, battletech, asoiaf, infinity, opr, Mordhiem and godtear. My adhd gaming and painting dance cart is full.
I REALLY hope that it is a huge hit, really accessible and well made, with models that are easily available to get your hands on. But what I foresee, given the history of card games about gundam, and Bandai's proclivity to drop its tabletop products on a whim, is that the sets everyone wants will be a pain in the butt to find online because not enough were made, the rules will be overly complex to the point that you're flexing your math skills to be any good at it OR the rules will be so lackluster that you won't FEEL a difference between fielding Wing Zero or a Zaku. And the game will be out of print before all the models that we saw in the commercial and showcase were officially sold in stores.
I'm a bit more optimistic. If the rules are good, then, even if the game fails, we still get a good ruleset to use with HG's if the rules suck, but the minis are great(and the definitely look great) and readily available, then Mobile Sit Skirmish will have a good source for conveniently sized minis.
While I agree, I can definitely see this to some extent cutting into potential GW profits. Or at the very least, the idea of it, may spook Corporate. Depending on how well this does, we’ll probably see some level of response in the form of a side game like they did with titanicus or some new model maybe. I know that sounds weird, but GW often puts out a new side game or revamps an old one, in order to compete in a different market against.
@bc9402 Just looking at what they've shown, it looks more in line to Underworlds. So either they revamp Kill Team into a similar vein, or they make a 40k version of underworlds.
God I can only hope that the transformable MS comes with both Mobile Armor and MS mode. It's such a pain to have to look for 2 of the same gunpla for when I last played a Gundam tabletop. There have been homebrew Gundam tabletop rules that are more akin to tabletop skirmish games than tabletop wargames, most prevalent being Mobile Suit Gundam Skirmish. Game has rules for competitive and narrative play, rules for tanks, aircraft and infantry along with the Mobile Suits and Mobile Armors and has special rules for space combat.
While we wait for Gundam Assemble, I recommend you try Mecha Bardagulan Tabletop. Based on what you said, it could be a game for you. The rules are free so you can try if it fits your taste.
I want to see it expanded to Bandai/Sunrise non-Gundam (but Gundam-adjascent) series, especially the 80s ones. But failling that, I want to see the G-Reco designs like the Grimoire and Zowort 'Armored Core At Home' Heavy.
I'm just going to throw it out there, I think the Assemble bit of the name is meant for people not ready in a war gamming space to think "avengers assemble" from the MCU movies as a bring everyone together. Without knowing the rules, maybe units aren't faction locked, but maybe units might have buffs if you have another unit in play, like the red and blue paired suits, such as Unit 4 and 5 of UC or Mercurius and Vayeate of Wing. Till we know more it's hard to judge. I know the UC purist aren't going to touch anything outside of US related suits.
5:00 Bird Mode? But that isn't AC gundam from Wing series lol! What have you been doing lately? Did you keep up with the latest gundam series 😅 that is a *Rising Freedom* in it MA (Mobile Armor) Mode that was shown in the SEED Freedom movie/pv 🎥
Having the system based around a hex grid makes it easy on Bamco when it comes to rules that involve measurement. Is it less freeform? Yes. Does it hurt Little Timmy's head less when it comes to doing math? Also yes. Here's hoping the prices aren't stupid.
I was also going to add that if they want to add any facing mechanics like battletech the hexes help with that too. Cutting out the endless rules lawyering that comes with the tape measure and LOS saves A TON of time in game
The miniatures game is being made by Bandai, a japanese company. You ever played a japanese video game and walked away going "wow, that was really easy to learn, simply implemented without a bunch of bells and whistles, and didn't involve number crunching"? No, didn't think so. I don't think GW will be ruined by the new miniatures game. I hope its not more complex than 40k. But I have a sinking feeling this will be Battletech levels of complexity.
@@Kepora1 Really? I have really enjoyed the direction of Ilclan and their latest Campaign Operations setup is so much easier to run than the old system its hard to go back.
There CURRENTLY is no entry level, begginer friendly, wargame but that doesn't mean that's always been the case. Star Wars X-wing launched in 2012 and from then until 2019 it competed neck-and-neck with 40K and even outperforming it some years. X-wing was about as beginner friendly as you could get. Games lasted about 20-45 minutes on average, all the models came pre-painted, and a $50 starter set and a couple of $15 ships were all you needed to get started. I see no reason why Bandai couldn't have pitched a Gundam tabletop wargame to be like the next X-wing.
I want Gundam ground types with options for GM head, ground GM's, GM Snipers, EZ-8, and hell, gimme some federation and Zeon tanks too. Can you tell that 08th MS team is my favorite?
I think these minis are gonna be pretty cheap because gundam artifact minis have three times the plastic and detail and are 7-10 dollars each! And also hoping for really cool grunts like the geara zulu!
for those that prefer useing a tape measure for movement, couldn't you just measure the base hex and use that as your movement unit. like it seems like you roll the dice to determine how far you move so like if you roll 3 jsut measure out the length of 3 hex bases and move their
Not if facing matters. Like in Battletech the facing of the mech might matter, and in that case the hexagon shaped map plays a role in limiting turning/facing.
The Battletech comment is always funny to me, I like both Battletech and Gundam but I know so many people who are mutually exclusive with what they like. Either the sleek designs of Gundam or the Industrial Machinery vibes of Battletech. Personally I like the Turn-A as my fav from Gundam though, and Eris as my favorite from Battletech because it looks like an Armored Core lol.
literally all of this is moot if they don't make a big zam tho jokes aside, i really do hope this is good. i've been looking into finally jumping into mini painting and stuff and maybe this will be the push i need! i really hope we see some weirdos, and i have hope we will considering that there was a Kapool in the trailer. Xeku or bust!!
It makes me wonder if these figures are 1/550 scale because you could use the vintage mobile armors which most of them including big zam are in that scale.
Bandai really missed the perfect opportunity to call it Gundam Hammer! I have a question though... can I use my HGUC Dendrobium instead of a miniature?
I'm just hoping it's affordable, or at least you can build an army or so of Mass Production Suits, and main Units like say have 3 or so Gundams, while being backed up by 10 or so GMs for a starter, if not have it mix and match where you get GMs, Gundam, Guncannon, and Guntank mixed in, but it doesn't cost as much as what a basic kit for Warhammer can cost you (and if they choose to do individual suits for sale, they better cost at least $10 USD or below for Gundams or Captain Zeon Units). The only way I see this failing is if Bandai itself becomes it's own enemy when it comes to distribution, pricing, and variety.
Slightly unrelated, but I bought my Son a copy of "Necromolds" for Christmas and it's probably the best 60 bucks I've ever spent in the wargaming hobby, and Bandai has already got my attention 😊
Also unfortunately Battletech in general is the closest comparison. Its cheap and easy to get into, 45 dollars for the box set gets you everything you need to play the game in several different ways. The models are preassembled too which is a severely underrated aspect for just picking up a wargame. Additionally expanding the variety of the game only costs like 20-30 dollars per Mech pack or per Map pack. There's also Alpha Strike, which can be played with a 60-80 dollar kit that includes enough to play several different factions with very little effort or setup. I mean shit I have taught people how to play 90% of the game in 30 minutes at parties. The main downside is that Neoprene Maps are much more expensive as an investment compared to Battletech Maps being 30 dollars for multiple sets of WILDLY different terrain.
8:34 Not much to say cause I think it is possible but it depends. But to confirm we have Stands / Bases for HGs and we can and some have Actual did a Gameplay using it. I'm in the Philippines side so yes someone has done it already using Action Base (the stands) for this game style. I will think this might succeed by chance.
11:05 We confirmed That on us the Gunpla Builders side are like we know by chance Bandai Namco actually made the most Cheapest Minis and if true it is like from what I heard is like 3-4-5 USD less or more. Cause from what se saw is It uses the same Material and Use of HG Runners. Just tempted a bit cause what I heard was a He Said She Said for not but from what I heard Warhammer 40K Fans will like the Pricing for them cause it is likely to be cheaper.
I just wish they gave support for the existing model lines. Imagine large scale battles akin to the "titan" room scale seen in some official Warhammer 40K venues but with perfect grade kits. I'm not asking for HG be the standard but for the option to do it. Plus it would be fun if for a proper RPG based on the feedback of Gundam Assemble we have the ability to use Gunpla as the rpg mech tokens.
Its actually a brilliant move from Bandai. A lot of W40K content creators have been posting videos on building their first Gunpla models. They all talk of the value they get from Bandai compared to GW. I love both W40K(minis) and Gundam. I will be buying some of these minis even if I don't ever play the tabletop. Bandai already sells 2" gundam figures in gashapon machines. But the minis from the Assemble line seem to have very sharp details and more dynamic poses. I personally hope they bring Gundam EX-S and the Deepstriker. Looking forward to Zaku Zulus and Zaku Geara variants.
Im very excited for this game. Id love to see epyon, mercurius, vayeate, ez-8, jesta cannon, to name a few. But those are the ones I can think of odd the top of my head atm.
I'm curious to see what the actual game would be like for scale (not for sizes but number of models) along with the price. Also curious how the mini's will be distributed & if it'll be available from local tabletop game stores.
I think they might not have done the bases because like, half of gundam battles are in space and in making it look better for ground combat scenarios, you'll make it look worse for the space ones.
Mere months after I buy Battletech stuff lmao Oh well, there's room to two mecha games, and what's cool is I'll both stompy mechs of the Inner Sphere, and the more agile Gundams of the Universal Century :D
Keep in mind Battletech literally has 40 years of refinement to its ruleset too, in addition to CGL being pretty solid support for the game. I am excited for this but I am worried they won't support it for too long.
If it's similar in complexity to something like X-Wing the Miniatures Game, I'll be happy to get into this one. That is assuming there is local players as well. Got burned on a few due to dying player bases.
There's an old and abandoned Japanese only game using 1/400 gundams. I made a few ships in that scale for 3d printing and recommend they be used as the play area as they are so big. If you had 2 ships you would need a hall to play both sides. So I get the not to scale for large units if they want to make ships part of the game.
The paint job only looks slightly better than what I could do. Really surprised that they weren't closer to GW's Heavy Metal paint team. At least for the ones shown in the trailer (let's face it, most of these suits have decent art to base your paint scheme off of (like the character sheets for the mecha)).
they probably just got a bunch of people who used acrylics for the first time. not surprising they dont look like the output of a team with like 30+ years of existence that has dedicated products
Bandai launching their competitor while the Warhammer community is growing a lot of resentment for GW is an absolute based thing to do ( they definitely didn't plan this)
I'm not a Warhammer hobbyist. I'm a Wargamer hobbyist. I've been playing Warhammer and other Wargames all my life. I've seen many Wargames rise and fall. The closest I've seen another Wargame almost tople Warhammer is Warmachine and X-Wing. What I'm trying to say is i don't think it will take down Warhammer as the number 1 wargame. I have beef with Warhammer, but it's not falling anytime soon
Gundam Assemble, Trench Crusade, Dropfleet next ed. GW have shot their base in the foot for long enough now really good companies are coming to pick up the slack and give people what they want.
If anything was going to be competition for warhammer it would have been legion. Gundam, cool as it is, is still a niche market and this game looks to be a completely different experience than Warhammer. It’s like comparing monopoly and trivial pursuit.
Depends on a lot of factors, like apples and oranges, I might be wrong but if you like hero's winning the day, probably Gundam, if you like a gritty setting with not much hope and EVERY faction is evil to some degree, play 40k..but im a bit biased, I like mechs that look like walking tanks, not samurai...
Playing a game at 1/144 scale sounds neat until you realize everyone's lugging plastic hand grenades around. That said super excited to pay Master Grade prices for 2 inch models 🙃
From what I've heard, tabletop wargaming is near-nonexistent in Japan, so I'm not sure how good the rules will be, but at worst it will be a good source mecha models in a gameable scale. On the other hand, a simplified version of the mechanics from the Super Robot Wars video games would probably be a good basis for a tabletop game. (PS While "Gundam Assemble" might not be a great name, it does make me wish Marvel's minis game was called "Avengers Assemble")
I mean, the use what you already make for the game would make sense if those models weren't selling. Not the case with the larger models. Bandai makes bank on those. They want to sell these to people who wouldn't buy their larger scale more display style models.
I think I saw an Aerial and I am a fan of WfM so I'm getting that one, and hopefully there will be a Barbatos too (any version). The EZ-8 would be very welcome as well. Overall I am really looking forward to this, mostly to collect the models tbh, but if the game is good I'm in
Making them cheaper than GW is like the easiest part , You have things like Gundam artifact that have lots of details , are bigger and they cost like 7-10 dollars
The miniatures have the right size for a tabletop game, but I have low confidence in the quality of this game, and if the pricing is off (ie GW prices), I'm not interested as I would mainly buy them as a convenience for use in other giant robot games.
The game has massive problems out the gate by not being faction based. From what the starter sets seem to imply, there will be no difference between one year war units and, say, Ad Stella timeline units. So a Zaku I would be on equal footing with the Gundam Aerial. I didn’t see anything to imply a points system. Immersion ruined out the gate. I really hope they just dropped random models for the announcements and will push it more towards the Warhammer style rules to make it an actual interesting game rather than a risk variant with funky models. Also as for making a game with the existing models, people do play Gundam Skirmish still. Some people glue up their models just for that. I’m also very cynical about the success of this game. To me, the multiverse route decision they went with tells me they didn’t really take this seriously and instead aim for a sale boost on launch and then probably leave it to die like the metaverse, GunEvo and so on and so forth. I’m sad to say it might just be dead on arrival as a tabletop and if it stays alive it’ll be more of a mini-gunpla thing like the existing Artifact models Also my wishlist is just literally every Zeon MS, from OYW to Mars Neo Zeon. Not biased.
I mean Gundam Evolution did this too with the cross Multiverse the card game is doing it also how can the zaku one go up against the Wing Zero you kind of have to suspend your disbelief and immersion with these kind of things eventually as more sets come out you could probably just make it purely faction based once we have enough models from a certain timeline but for the Mass Appeal I get why they didn't just start with the universal Century only timeline for the first couple years or something like that
@@sakidickerson I’d like to remind you GunEvo was also a shortlived cheap cashgrab. I’m very cynical to any new Gundam project that seems unfocused and I’ve yet to really be wrong in that. The mass appeal is good on paper, but it kills the longevity of a thing like this. You won’t have any fandriven communities that gather around their favourite factions and instead all you get is some diehards trying to keep the game alive, just as with Gundam Skirmish these days. The entire project, reveal and presentation feel very much like an out of touch Bandai executive heard of Warhammer or Battletech through their grandchild and said «do that, but change it a little». It does in no way seem like a project anyone at Bandai actually wanted to bring to life. The idea that «you just have to suspend disbelief with these things» is ridiculous when things like Warhammer, Battletech, Star Wars, LOTR, and many many more tabletop miniature wargames exist and all follow a very simple faction model. Call me a downer, but this entire thing screams dead within months. As for the cardgame, they haven’t even been clear about whether or not it’ll have interplay with the tabletop. It seems like two teams of headless chickens trying to figure out advertising.
@Herr_Gamer you're valid I totally get you and I agree Bandai has a bad history with not supporting these kinds of things long enough to see them thrive and leaving the fan base hanging. I just hope with enough support down the line we'll be able to have different formats maybe for mixed universes and one they appeals to purists. I still think it's better this way though. Imagine if you didn't care about wing or 00 at all but you had to wait years for them to exhaust those lines before even touching UC
@@sakidickerson I get that, it’s an issue that has come about thanks to the strangeness of Gundam as a series lf multiple timelines. I’m by no means an AU hater (besides Seed) but it would make sense to me if they’d still kept it more restrained than just throwing everything on the board at once. At least within the starter sets they have announced. It irks me just as much to see the Wing Gundam together with a Zaku I as it does to see the RX-78 with the Unicorm. I’d be less worried if they started out with One Year War minis for the UC and Operation Meteor minis for Wing, but they chose to pick and choose from all points of all timelines. It could be salvaged but I for one am not interested in buying a sleeves x neo zeon x zeon mashup pack. They seem to treat the selection like a cardgame pack even if it isn’t randomized
im a casual gundam fan, but ill buy the models if theyre reasonably priced. If they come in exclusively box sets or multi packs, Im probably not touching them. The scale is really dumb tho. they should have had everything to scale, especially since they make S C A L E M O D E L S primarily.
this is Bandai's only chance to make a Hyaku-Shiki with colours that nobody will complain about.
Why are you right....?
Until they make a gold plated special edition as a p bandai exclusive.
No because you need to paint your own minis
@@11AleZZ That's the joke.
Assumimg people arent gonna complain about OTHER peoples' colored Hack-u Shiki colors. 🙃
Bandai please, do NOT try to price match these minis to complete with GW. Your game will fail.
If I can buy and build an 8 inch, articulated and color molded Gunpla for the cost of ~5 40k minis, in grey plastic, I should be able to build the equivalent of a full GW ARMY for the cost of a Perfect Grade.
You have better technology and production capacity than GW, what you don't have is the same amount of brand recognition in the west. Despite how popular Gundam has gotten in recent years.
Play into your strengths and succeed. Play GWs game and this will crash and burn like G-EVO
The prices are around the same than GW, 25 bucks for 3 minis, but you need much less minis
@@11AleZZ thats the starter set which includes more than minis
@@datkat2001 yeah but the game it's suppose to be played with teams of 3-5 minis, so you don't need to buy 50+ minis to play a standard game
@@11AleZZ it would be a bit like Battletech in that regard. You can buy more minis, but if you own a dozen or even less you are set to play for the rest of your life unless you do want more. That's a cool way to gain new players.
@franciscoduarteauthor the problem is the complexity and balance, in this class of low level complexity of games, balance tend to be bad, so most wargamers don't gonna get in to the game beyond the novelty, Bandai have 0 experience in this class of games
Opening with Turn-A clips HOLY BASED you're a real one
I think the main deciding factor of if this game lives or dies is how well Bandai can keep their ear to the ground and really listen to the community. They need good community managers for every main region. I also think if this game becomes a hit, it could hurt GW's future growth. They're going to catch all the people who bounce off of the high cost of entry for 40k. Even KillTeam requires that you either magnetize some of your minis or buy a second $55-$60 box. If it's like BattleTech where you only need $30-$40 bucks for a team, they're going to nab GW's future potential customers.
Until everyone who is interested gets referred for speech therapy for saying the stupidest term ever “gunpla”
I’m excited about this, but seriously there is nothing pleasant about that word in English.
I don't think GW will get ruined by Bandi's new miniature game, but I think Bandi in some ways will hurt GW. Bandi is a much larger company and has a larger catalog of model kits, and products line. Hell, they beat GW in the entertainment side of things back in the late 70's and early 80's.
Bandai's pricing is also far less extortionate.
@Scaevola9449 And to add, if you do buy something expensive from Bandi. It actually feels like it's worth the buy. Not buying a $55 for a kit of 10 guardsman, but $55 for a Master Grade? Makes way more sense
@@Scaevola9449not so true, 3000 (25 dollars) yenes for 3 minis isn't so cheap
I don't think these things will really cross streams.
@@Lakefront_Khan I wish that they should though!
Bandai should just create a TT PnP like gundam build fighters where you create your Gunpla using a point-buy system and then fight on your battles on the Tabletop! Maybe base the movement and positioning on a special action base.
Someone make a joke that you can left the strike unpaint and say the phase shift is not activated
Okay, so scale wise, what we are seeing is that the Ships are Map Scale. The Hex grid, much like Classic BattleTech, represents "sectors" of space. The Mobile Suit minis are not in actual scale with the map, or they would be tiny (like 6mm infantry tiny), but are still small enough to fill the hex space that they are effectively in control of.
As for the idea of any game being a "Warhammer Killer" that just plain isn't how it works, the only thing that can kill Warhammer is Warhammer.
interesting! i saw some similarities with battletech but it looks like it's taking a lot more inspo from it than i thought!
tHIS DUDE SAID WARHAMMER WAS BALANCED. LOL
He also doesn't like battletech or western mecha genre, even though it takes what classic gundam and other old Japanese mecha shows did by have a "realistic" setting for giant robots.
Dude is a tourist and probably in constant flip flopping on what he actually likes
@TheCADDGUY well yeah. He said wh was balanced. Clearly he's new or dumb or a liar.
@calebhebert2733 you can tell he hasn't played much of any table top games. Which makes his opinions extremely transparent
@TheCADDGUY I think this might be the only video of his I've seen. And I didn't even watch the while thing. Had it on in the background at work. He made the balanced comment and I laughed and skipped it. I withhold my opinions for now, for the most part.
@calebhebert2733 this is the only video of his i have seen as well.
He outed himself and his lack of actual personal knowledge
It's already got the Kapool so it can't fail.
It's my favourite gbo2 suit so I'm gonna main it in assemble as well lol
They should make it super robot wars. Make it so you can play all gundam if you want, but also expand out into all the other crazy mech's they've mixed into those games.
God, not just for the sake of that main game, but for kitbashing. Evangelion Evas and Angels would be so good for Chaos, Boss Borot would be rad for Orks and the Aura Battlers would be perfect for Eldar.
I NEED a DCAM-004 ASAP dog. I pray to Sajuuk they do anything SRW.
I kind of hope Bandai sees the potential in this and makes it happen. I would like to use Getter Robo and such.
Warhammer has been around for more than 40 years. If Star Wars Legion, Star Wars X Wing, Marvel Crisis Protocol, Batman Miniatures Game, Halo: Ground Wars etc etc didn't knock GW off the top spot then probably Gundam wont either.
When you said G-Savior at the end, I nodded my head, the movie may be bad, but the Mobile Suit does not have to necessarily suffer the same fate.
it will be awkward if the minis has grassy/rocky themed base but then the battle took place in space so it's better to make it bare for flexibility.
and i'm sure you can remove the base if you want the minis blend in better with the environment
Could also be that Bandai will sell premade bases you can just pop the model off/on whenever.
@@The-Singularity-X01 yeah, more money for them too!
I think the reason why they didny paint the bases is because they want the eye to focus on the figure (which they sell) and not in the base (which they dont sell)
Actually, I think it'sspecifcally because the bases are modeled after one of their "action bases" and want the minis to reflect that possibly as a nod to "We know you're gonna use these rules with HG gunpla, go buy our action bases to do it.
The play mats I've seen so far have been for space battles, I suspect the idea in leaving them plain was to make them look equally at home in space and other terrain. Clear plastic would have been an idea to go with that too.
If Bandai creates a new Gundam anime out of this, it'll definitely help
Yes like Build fighters
Gundam Assemble Fighters
Build Tactics!
If there's one thing Bandai knows how to do, it's making glorified commercials for their products
@ or how about a show that combines the miniatures with the card game.
I've been looking for mini's to use with Lancer and these are perfect!
Saaaame! Haha. I don’t think I’d actually play their miniatures game, but I’m all about buying the minis!
Useless fact: the zeong is only 17.3m
While the sinanju is 22.6m so that checks out
Legs are just for show
Makes perfect sense since the Zeong has no legs.
Show of hands, who else is hoping they make a Big Zam? Both because I have no idea where to find an actual Gunpla of one, and also because I just really love the "UFO on legs" design. And yes I did first hear about it via that one Game Grumps bit, what of it?
I will be grabbing a zaku or three. If nothing else they will just chill with my zaku collection, but I hope they will work with my battletech stuff.
I will give the game a go, but I have no desire to add another game to my collection. Between mcp, battletech, asoiaf, infinity, opr, Mordhiem and godtear. My adhd gaming and painting dance cart is full.
If there is a way to play an army of Zakus, I will do just that and be a very happy man.
I REALLY hope that it is a huge hit, really accessible and well made, with models that are easily available to get your hands on. But what I foresee, given the history of card games about gundam, and Bandai's proclivity to drop its tabletop products on a whim, is that the sets everyone wants will be a pain in the butt to find online because not enough were made, the rules will be overly complex to the point that you're flexing your math skills to be any good at it OR the rules will be so lackluster that you won't FEEL a difference between fielding Wing Zero or a Zaku. And the game will be out of print before all the models that we saw in the commercial and showcase were officially sold in stores.
Yeah, their ability to support it, and the rules being solidly conveyed and nice to play will be what will make or break it.
I'm a bit more optimistic. If the rules are good, then, even if the game fails, we still get a good ruleset to use with HG's if the rules suck, but the minis are great(and the definitely look great) and readily available, then Mobile Sit Skirmish will have a good source for conveniently sized minis.
40k cooked? No. From the images shown, this game will have more in common with either Battletech, or Warhammer Underworlds.
This is my thoughts. It doesn’t look like a “GW killer” it looks like an entirely different style game from either of GWs flagship IPs
While I agree, I can definitely see this to some extent cutting into potential GW profits.
Or at the very least, the idea of it, may spook Corporate. Depending on how well this does, we’ll probably see some level of response in the form of a side game like they did with titanicus or some new model maybe. I know that sounds weird, but GW often puts out a new side game or revamps an old one, in order to compete in a different market against.
@bc9402 Just looking at what they've shown, it looks more in line to Underworlds. So either they revamp Kill Team into a similar vein, or they make a 40k version of underworlds.
There is a ton of lore for narrative battles like Solomon, Odessa, Aboa Qu. I could see Zeon vs Federation narrative games
Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz expansion pack, let’s go!
Apollo Geist? Is that a Kamen Rider reference?
Battletech design are fantastic...
Wundwort? it's always a pleasure to meet a fellow man of culture
Please tell me there’s gonna be a Apsalus mobile armor miniature
God I can only hope that the transformable MS comes with both Mobile Armor and MS mode. It's such a pain to have to look for 2 of the same gunpla for when I last played a Gundam tabletop. There have been homebrew Gundam tabletop rules that are more akin to tabletop skirmish games than tabletop wargames, most prevalent being Mobile Suit Gundam Skirmish. Game has rules for competitive and narrative play, rules for tanks, aircraft and infantry along with the Mobile Suits and Mobile Armors and has special rules for space combat.
4:59 that's not the regular Freedom Gundam, that's the Rising Freedom from the recent Gundam Seed movie
You know people will play it with full sized kits, and no one can stop them.
While we wait for Gundam Assemble, I recommend you try Mecha Bardagulan Tabletop. Based on what you said, it could be a game for you. The rules are free so you can try if it fits your taste.
I just want them to play against my Battletech armies
My dream has finally come true. Now take the rules and upscale it for your gunpla
I want to see it expanded to Bandai/Sunrise non-Gundam (but Gundam-adjascent) series, especially the 80s ones. But failling that, I want to see the G-Reco designs like the Grimoire and Zowort 'Armored Core At Home' Heavy.
Start with Turn A sweet sweet Moonlight Butterfly to grab my attention.
I'm just going to throw it out there, I think the Assemble bit of the name is meant for people not ready in a war gamming space to think "avengers assemble" from the MCU movies as a bring everyone together. Without knowing the rules, maybe units aren't faction locked, but maybe units might have buffs if you have another unit in play, like the red and blue paired suits, such as Unit 4 and 5 of UC or Mercurius and Vayeate of Wing. Till we know more it's hard to judge. I know the UC purist aren't going to touch anything outside of US related suits.
5:00 Bird Mode? But that isn't AC gundam from Wing series lol! What have you been doing lately? Did you keep up with the latest gundam series 😅 that is a *Rising Freedom* in it MA (Mobile Armor) Mode that was shown in the SEED Freedom movie/pv 🎥
Having the system based around a hex grid makes it easy on Bamco when it comes to rules that involve measurement. Is it less freeform? Yes. Does it hurt Little Timmy's head less when it comes to doing math? Also yes. Here's hoping the prices aren't stupid.
I was also going to add that if they want to add any facing mechanics like battletech the hexes help with that too. Cutting out the endless rules lawyering that comes with the tape measure and LOS saves A TON of time in game
The miniatures game is being made by Bandai, a japanese company. You ever played a japanese video game and walked away going "wow, that was really easy to learn, simply implemented without a bunch of bells and whistles, and didn't involve number crunching"? No, didn't think so. I don't think GW will be ruined by the new miniatures game. I hope its not more complex than 40k. But I have a sinking feeling this will be Battletech levels of complexity.
I love Battletech but hate what CGL has been doing, so sign me up for Gundam Battletech!
@@Kepora1 Really? I have really enjoyed the direction of Ilclan and their latest Campaign Operations setup is so much easier to run than the old system its hard to go back.
I'm making posable modular jegans that are still 2 inch tall so they work with this game
I hope they do because their pricing is crazy. If Bandai can the deliver same quality but lower prices.
There CURRENTLY is no entry level, begginer friendly, wargame but that doesn't mean that's always been the case. Star Wars X-wing launched in 2012 and from then until 2019 it competed neck-and-neck with 40K and even outperforming it some years.
X-wing was about as beginner friendly as you could get. Games lasted about 20-45 minutes on average, all the models came pre-painted, and a $50 starter set and a couple of $15 ships were all you needed to get started.
I see no reason why Bandai couldn't have pitched a Gundam tabletop wargame to be like the next X-wing.
I want Gundam ground types with options for GM head, ground GM's, GM Snipers, EZ-8, and hell, gimme some federation and Zeon tanks too.
Can you tell that 08th MS team is my favorite?
I think these minis are gonna be pretty cheap because gundam artifact minis have three times the plastic and detail and are 7-10 dollars each! And also hoping for really cool grunts like the geara zulu!
Yes. I love the Zulu.
Still waiting for a damn MG!
I just want a Rick Dijeh kit, be it original or the modified variant.
for those that prefer useing a tape measure for movement, couldn't you just measure the base hex and use that as your movement unit. like it seems like you roll the dice to determine how far you move so like if you roll 3 jsut measure out the length of 3 hex bases and move their
Not if facing matters. Like in Battletech the facing of the mech might matter, and in that case the hexagon shaped map plays a role in limiting turning/facing.
I think its possible to use 1/144 with hexagon action base. we just have to have larger table and custom made playing mat.
The Battletech comment is always funny to me, I like both Battletech and Gundam but I know so many people who are mutually exclusive with what they like. Either the sleek designs of Gundam or the Industrial Machinery vibes of Battletech. Personally I like the Turn-A as my fav from Gundam though, and Eris as my favorite from Battletech because it looks like an Armored Core lol.
literally all of this is moot if they don't make a big zam tho
jokes aside, i really do hope this is good. i've been looking into finally jumping into mini painting and stuff and maybe this will be the push i need! i really hope we see some weirdos, and i have hope we will considering that there was a Kapool in the trailer. Xeku or bust!!
It makes me wonder if these figures are 1/550 scale because you could use the vintage mobile armors which most of them including big zam are in that scale.
Oh hey Big Zam
dont really care about the bi zam but would love to see them do some of the big mobile armors like the val walla or the dendrobium
At 2 inches, they are going to likely be closer to the 1/400th scale Gundam Collection range
Bandai really missed the perfect opportunity to call it Gundam Hammer!
I have a question though... can I use my HGUC Dendrobium instead of a miniature?
I'm just hoping it's affordable, or at least you can build an army or so of Mass Production Suits, and main Units like say have 3 or so Gundams, while being backed up by 10 or so GMs for a starter, if not have it mix and match where you get GMs, Gundam, Guncannon, and Guntank mixed in, but it doesn't cost as much as what a basic kit for Warhammer can cost you (and if they choose to do individual suits for sale, they better cost at least $10 USD or below for Gundams or Captain Zeon Units). The only way I see this failing is if Bandai itself becomes it's own enemy when it comes to distribution, pricing, and variety.
I suspect the bases look like that precisely because you can scale it up to HG scale to work with those Hg action based
Bro…. Its heroscape. Thank god I still have my sets
Slightly unrelated, but I bought my Son a copy of "Necromolds" for Christmas and it's probably the best 60 bucks I've ever spent in the wargaming hobby, and Bandai has already got my attention 😊
I'm honestly hoping the grid is done similarly to Heroscape, where the map can impact the units beyond just obscuring line of sight.
the plastic, it sings to me
Also unfortunately Battletech in general is the closest comparison. Its cheap and easy to get into, 45 dollars for the box set gets you everything you need to play the game in several different ways. The models are preassembled too which is a severely underrated aspect for just picking up a wargame. Additionally expanding the variety of the game only costs like 20-30 dollars per Mech pack or per Map pack.
There's also Alpha Strike, which can be played with a 60-80 dollar kit that includes enough to play several different factions with very little effort or setup. I mean shit I have taught people how to play 90% of the game in 30 minutes at parties. The main downside is that Neoprene Maps are much more expensive as an investment compared to Battletech Maps being 30 dollars for multiple sets of WILDLY different terrain.
Gimme that tallgeese model! Definitely gonna buy in to this. I’ve wanted a gundam mini game since i started mini gaming. Hype as fuck even if it sucks
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Not much to say cause I think it is possible but it depends. But to confirm we have Stands / Bases for HGs and we can and some have Actual did a Gameplay using it. I'm in the Philippines side so yes someone has done it already using Action Base (the stands) for this game style. I will think this might succeed by chance.
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We confirmed That on us the Gunpla Builders side are like we know by chance Bandai Namco actually made the most Cheapest Minis and if true it is like from what I heard is like 3-4-5 USD less or more. Cause from what se saw is It uses the same Material and Use of HG Runners. Just tempted a bit cause what I heard was a He Said She Said for not but from what I heard Warhammer 40K Fans will like the Pricing for them cause it is likely to be cheaper.
I wonder if this game will use the rule set of the Super Robot Taisen videogames.
I just wish they gave support for the existing model lines. Imagine large scale battles akin to the "titan" room scale seen in some official Warhammer 40K venues but with perfect grade kits. I'm not asking for HG be the standard but for the option to do it. Plus it would be fun if for a proper RPG based on the feedback of Gundam Assemble we have the ability to use Gunpla as the rpg mech tokens.
I'd love to see guncannons, all 3 tallgeese, and heavy arms
Its actually a brilliant move from Bandai. A lot of W40K content creators have been posting videos on building their first Gunpla models. They all talk of the value they get from Bandai compared to GW. I love both W40K(minis) and Gundam. I will be buying some of these minis even if I don't ever play the tabletop. Bandai already sells 2" gundam figures in gashapon machines. But the minis from the Assemble line seem to have very sharp details and more dynamic poses. I personally hope they bring Gundam EX-S and the Deepstriker. Looking forward to Zaku Zulus and Zaku Geara variants.
Im very excited for this game. Id love to see epyon, mercurius, vayeate, ez-8, jesta cannon, to name a few. But those are the ones I can think of odd the top of my head atm.
I'm curious to see what the actual game would be like for scale (not for sizes but number of models) along with the price.
Also curious how the mini's will be distributed & if it'll be available from local tabletop game stores.
Gaia Gear chads get on modeling some mini’s for this
You could always upscale the game the hex tiles for this game could be replaced with flight stands fir the HG kits and boom all good
I think they might not have done the bases because like, half of gundam battles are in space and in making it look better for ground combat scenarios, you'll make it look worse for the space ones.
I'm hoping for an 08th MS team lineup, an those are definitely getting ground bases.
Mere months after I buy Battletech stuff lmao
Oh well, there's room to two mecha games, and what's cool is I'll both stompy mechs of the Inner Sphere, and the more agile Gundams of the Universal Century :D
Keep in mind Battletech literally has 40 years of refinement to its ruleset too, in addition to CGL being pretty solid support for the game. I am excited for this but I am worried they won't support it for too long.
>woundwort at the top of the list
you know what, based.
If it's similar in complexity to something like X-Wing the Miniatures Game, I'll be happy to get into this one. That is assuming there is local players as well. Got burned on a few due to dying player bases.
When they announced the assemble, one person i could think of. Millennial model mayhem😂
There's an old and abandoned Japanese only game using 1/400 gundams. I made a few ships in that scale for 3d printing and recommend they be used as the play area as they are so big. If you had 2 ships you would need a hall to play both sides. So I get the not to scale for large units if they want to make ships part of the game.
Hamma-Hamma, please! Neo-Zeon designs need more love!
The paint job only looks slightly better than what I could do. Really surprised that they weren't closer to GW's Heavy Metal paint team. At least for the ones shown in the trailer (let's face it, most of these suits have decent art to base your paint scheme off of (like the character sheets for the mecha)).
they probably just got a bunch of people who used acrylics for the first time. not surprising they dont look like the output of a team with like 30+ years of existence that has dedicated products
@@datkat2001 Fair point.
Bandai launching their competitor while the Warhammer community is growing a lot of resentment for GW is an absolute based thing to do ( they definitely didn't plan this)
It's not competition lmao
Speak for yourself my Zudah x G-Saviour team is gonna go hard in the paint 🔥🔥
I'm not a Warhammer hobbyist. I'm a Wargamer hobbyist. I've been playing Warhammer and other Wargames all my life. I've seen many Wargames rise and fall. The closest I've seen another Wargame almost tople Warhammer is Warmachine and X-Wing.
What I'm trying to say is i don't think it will take down Warhammer as the number 1 wargame. I have beef with Warhammer, but it's not falling anytime soon
Gundam Assemble, Trench Crusade, Dropfleet next ed.
GW have shot their base in the foot for long enough now really good companies are coming to pick up the slack and give people what they want.
If anything was going to be competition for warhammer it would have been legion. Gundam, cool as it is, is still a niche market and this game looks to be a completely different experience than Warhammer. It’s like comparing monopoly and trivial pursuit.
Depends on a lot of factors, like apples and oranges, I might be wrong but if you like hero's winning the day, probably Gundam, if you like a gritty setting with not much hope and EVERY faction is evil to some degree, play 40k..but im a bit biased, I like mechs that look like walking tanks, not samurai...
Playing a game at 1/144 scale sounds neat until you realize everyone's lugging plastic hand grenades around.
That said super excited to pay Master Grade prices for 2 inch models 🙃
The video is great, you need to keep promoting your channel. Is not hard.
From what I've heard, tabletop wargaming is near-nonexistent in Japan, so I'm not sure how good the rules will be, but at worst it will be a good source mecha models in a gameable scale.
On the other hand, a simplified version of the mechanics from the Super Robot Wars video games would probably be a good basis for a tabletop game.
(PS While "Gundam Assemble" might not be a great name, it does make me wish Marvel's minis game was called "Avengers Assemble")
I mean, the use what you already make for the game would make sense if those models weren't selling. Not the case with the larger models. Bandai makes bank on those. They want to sell these to people who wouldn't buy their larger scale more display style models.
GW cooked themselves the minute they catered to the tournament sweat e sport crowd and focuse more on politics instead of making the game fun
It's Zaku time.
I think I saw an Aerial and I am a fan of WfM so I'm getting that one, and hopefully there will be a Barbatos too (any version). The EZ-8 would be very welcome as well. Overall I am really looking forward to this, mostly to collect the models tbh, but if the game is good I'm in
if they make these cheaper than GWs models and include a lot of gundam 00 and wfm suits then I am getting so many of these
Making them cheaper than GW is like the easiest part , You have things like Gundam artifact that have lots of details , are bigger and they cost like 7-10 dollars
The miniatures have the right size for a tabletop game, but I have low confidence in the quality of this game, and if the pricing is off (ie GW prices), I'm not interested as I would mainly buy them as a convenience for use in other giant robot games.
It just started so Bandai needs to really listen to player feedback on this. I want bandai to really hurt GW in marketshare.
Gotta say I really want this but it feels like a copy of giant killer robots table top game i recommend you look into it it's a great game
The game has massive problems out the gate by not being faction based. From what the starter sets seem to imply, there will be no difference between one year war units and, say, Ad Stella timeline units. So a Zaku I would be on equal footing with the Gundam Aerial. I didn’t see anything to imply a points system. Immersion ruined out the gate. I really hope they just dropped random models for the announcements and will push it more towards the Warhammer style rules to make it an actual interesting game rather than a risk variant with funky models. Also as for making a game with the existing models, people do play Gundam Skirmish still. Some people glue up their models just for that. I’m also very cynical about the success of this game. To me, the multiverse route decision they went with tells me they didn’t really take this seriously and instead aim for a sale boost on launch and then probably leave it to die like the metaverse, GunEvo and so on and so forth. I’m sad to say it might just be dead on arrival as a tabletop and if it stays alive it’ll be more of a mini-gunpla thing like the existing Artifact models
Also my wishlist is just literally every Zeon MS, from OYW to Mars Neo Zeon. Not biased.
I agree, I'd like to see factions myself!
I mean Gundam Evolution did this too with the cross Multiverse the card game is doing it also how can the zaku one go up against the Wing Zero you kind of have to suspend your disbelief and immersion with these kind of things eventually as more sets come out you could probably just make it purely faction based once we have enough models from a certain timeline but for the Mass Appeal I get why they didn't just start with the universal Century only timeline for the first couple years or something like that
@@sakidickerson I’d like to remind you GunEvo was also a shortlived cheap cashgrab. I’m very cynical to any new Gundam project that seems unfocused and I’ve yet to really be wrong in that. The mass appeal is good on paper, but it kills the longevity of a thing like this. You won’t have any fandriven communities that gather around their favourite factions and instead all you get is some diehards trying to keep the game alive, just as with Gundam Skirmish these days. The entire project, reveal and presentation feel very much like an out of touch Bandai executive heard of Warhammer or Battletech through their grandchild and said «do that, but change it a little». It does in no way seem like a project anyone at Bandai actually wanted to bring to life. The idea that «you just have to suspend disbelief with these things» is ridiculous when things like Warhammer, Battletech, Star Wars, LOTR, and many many more tabletop miniature wargames exist and all follow a very simple faction model. Call me a downer, but this entire thing screams dead within months. As for the cardgame, they haven’t even been clear about whether or not it’ll have interplay with the tabletop. It seems like two teams of headless chickens trying to figure out advertising.
@Herr_Gamer you're valid I totally get you and I agree Bandai has a bad history with not supporting these kinds of things long enough to see them thrive and leaving the fan base hanging. I just hope with enough support down the line we'll be able to have different formats maybe for mixed universes and one they appeals to purists. I still think it's better this way though. Imagine if you didn't care about wing or 00 at all but you had to wait years for them to exhaust those lines before even touching UC
@@sakidickerson I get that, it’s an issue that has come about thanks to the strangeness of Gundam as a series lf multiple timelines. I’m by no means an AU hater (besides Seed) but it would make sense to me if they’d still kept it more restrained than just throwing everything on the board at once. At least within the starter sets they have announced. It irks me just as much to see the Wing Gundam together with a Zaku I as it does to see the RX-78 with the Unicorm. I’d be less worried if they started out with One Year War minis for the UC and Operation Meteor minis for Wing, but they chose to pick and choose from all points of all timelines. It could be salvaged but I for one am not interested in buying a sleeves x neo zeon x zeon mashup pack. They seem to treat the selection like a cardgame pack even if it isn’t randomized
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Having the Gaia Gear would be a crazy pull. Too bad Bandai/Sunrise want nothing to do with it. 😭
I think it might play like sd gundam g generation series
Bandai saw blood with Games Workshop dying. Bandai already sells WH40k kits. Bandai should just buy Games Workshop lol.
I can't wait for Big Zam😂😂😂
Hopefuly Bandai create a ehole new IP for this game.
im a casual gundam fan, but ill buy the models if theyre reasonably priced. If they come in exclusively box sets or multi packs, Im probably not touching them. The scale is really dumb tho. they should have had everything to scale, especially since they make S C A L E M O D E L S primarily.
Gotta scale this up to hg 1/144 size