Goshawk Outdoors Titanium MULTI-FUEL Burner & Siphon Alcohol Burner TURBO SYSTEM - Worth the Money?
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2021
- A while back I did a video on an awesome alcohol stove from Goshawk Outdoors out of Australia. It's kind of a blend between a siphon alcohol burner and the Trangia...you can check that video out here...
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After that video many asked me to review more of the products from Goshawk, and as good fortune has it, the company reached out to me and asked if there were other products I wanted to try out. No questions asked, no review requests...just for me to try out. Well, since my subscribers had asked me to review several items, I asked for them and they came through!
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Just purchased the multifuel EDDY 205 multifuel kit for motorcycle trips, expected it to be US 150+, was USD 107. Thanks for pointing them out.
On 1/19/22 a new redesigned “pro” version of this stove came out. A little over an ounce heavier, but tuned for maximum wood-burning gasification performance.
Bought the pro version not long ago, and got to say, i like it.
I have the multi fuel stove. I've used it with wood chips and there is no need to modify it with any additional mesh etc. It gasifies really well - great system.
How much soot does it put in pots vs non-gasifying stove? Also, how much smoke?
@@MrTangent Hi, I tested it with the meths burner and then wood chips and was very happy with both. A little soot is inevitable on the pots but not too bad. Very little smoke. That may vary depending on wether the wood chips have a coating but I did not notice too much smoke once I got the chips burning with some tinder. Also I did not need to add any sort of mesh to keep the chips from spilling out, the existing holes in the burn chamber were the perfect size to retain all the fuel. All the fuel burned to a small amount of ash. Hope this helps.
@@terryranger5525 Awesome, thank you.
I am a fan of these Goshawk stoves!
i have watched over 100 of your videos and have formed an opinion. You present thorough information that lets me make up my mind about the products. I find your videos to be the best I have ever found on UA-cam. Thank you very much for all your work.
Interesting cooking options, Ernie. Thanks for the look. Stay well and keep dry down there.
Another great video, it looked to me as if the multi fuel boiled the water faster, guess that was because of better air flow. I appreciate your no BS , facts only reviews. . . . . 👍👍👍
I can always count on you to introduce me to stuff I’ve never seen before. Your efforts are always appreciated. Thanks much!
Hello there! Didn't know you watch PH MD :P
And same, I wouldn't have known this exited
Thank you for this video review/demo/comparison.
Great review! Like you, I love the multi-fuel choice for a stove. That looks like a well made unit! You can never have too many stoves. LOL!!
Great review. You do a fabulous job 👍🏻
Excellent video. It put this company on my radar
Regarding price, I think it's in Aussie dollars - currently at about $.70 US, so the price is much better. Now about the pot handle. I like it because you leave it off while the water is heating and the slip it on to pour the water w/o burning yourself. Thanks for all of the videos. I really appreciate them and all of the many, many hours you put into them.
I love this channel. Greetings from CDMX.
Another great video Ernie!! I'm with you on the pot . It needs better handles for the price especially !! Take care and stay safe my friend !!
I thought that as well, but I was watching goshawks official video for this system, and the guy used the removable handle to hook the top air holes and move the stove while it was lit. It really makes me regret getting a lixada butterfly handle pot instead
Great review and thanks for sharing. The main reason I carry alcohol burners is for when it's raining and I have to kook under my sil-nylon tarp. The main reason I prefer nylon or poly tarps is the weight savings, but the main drawback is how easy it is for flying embers to burn holes in them. Alcohol burners are a light weight solution to that issue. To tell you the truth, the price for this given it's not made in China is not bad at all.
Thanks for the review. I have thought about the multifuel. I have the Convertible Windproof Eddy-X, which I really like.
I am in. Thanks man.
Been looking for a wood gasifier stove that nests in a 750ml for a while. Very excited to get my stove 👍
Great review great stove 👍🤟🇨🇦
thank you for shareing，like your channel very much
The wood stove reminds me of the Four Dog Bush Cooker which I like. Its about the same price; not sure if one is better. Thanks for another great gear review Doc.
Ernie, gasifier wood stoves are TLUD for efficiency and longevity of the initial wood bolus. Properly packed, you can get a full meal cooked without refuelling. So....they should not be lit from underneath.
Nothing wrong with lighting from below.
@@MrTangent Nothing wrong with any twig fires, true. But TLUD stoves are more efficient when used according to their design principles.
@@joelrampersad1359 I getcha. I am new to the TLUD principle. I’ve primarily been an alcohol/isopro/regular wood stove person. Just now getting into gasifiers (well, just now buying one… been watching vids on them for years).
thank you for the laughs..only 50 secs into video...I noticed last time your pronunciation...but didnt wish to comment..its a british thing....thanks again for your input from little old England.
Another good precise review thanks Ernie. Bushyboy Oz.
Hey Doc! Can you do a review of the trails you have been on? Not like the whole overnight style, but something to help those of us in your area who want new trails and experiences
I was ready to see this. Wonder how that wood burner would compare to the solo lite. I do like it being titanium.
Nice set ups. I really like the gasifier stove.
The handle style for the pot is not an issue for me.
It doubles as tongs to pick up the stove. I wish I had known that before I opted out of it.
@@toastiesburned9929Excellent point about the dual use. I much prefer a usable handle without having to use gloves to pick up the pot.
It would be awesome to see a head to head comparison with the evernew syste Ernie!
Great review, another site to relieve me of my money. In that regard, have you looked at the Goshawk Rapid Boiling - Era Burner & AZ-0 Windproof Stand? They claim that it will boil 2 "glasses" of water in 3 minutes! I just ordered one, I'll let you know how it goes. As far as this system goes, I think that a Firebox Nano with a Trangia Spirit would easily rival the Goshawk system for less money.
Cool music while waiting for the water to boil.
Well, got myself one of those pioneer wood stoves and started to check it out. Compared to the solo, it usually does better. Surly much lighter, one of the Solo's biggest dissedvange, and better material- the solo rust inside. Also have room for almost the same amount of wood - i measured 50 grams. Titanium have less heat prisurve ability comparing to the Solo's Steele, and The pioneer have higher primary to secondary air ratio, i.e burns more wood faster: but also boils faster. It leaves about the same amount of ash, yet both leave south on the pot (even some tar). I believe the pioneer needs a chimney top and a base air limiter and a base plate to ideal.
Also got the steampunk, will check it compare to Tarangia in the original kit and see how it will go.
Some people pronounce it, "Goosehawk", which is of course the coolest.
Nice kit... excluding the price.
Is the handle more secure if you snug that tab up to the end connected to the pot?
Love the review Ernie. Keep them coming. I am a SS cookware person, I do know the titanium is lighter but, I feel safer cooking on the SS and it is not that much heavier. I am a pepper so this is what I am using. I do like the MSR Pocket Rocket and will get one of those along with having my Solo. Thank you again for sharing Ernie.
Unless I’m mistaken Ernie, there’s not a States side supplier for these stoves. So that means in addition to the cost, you’ll be paying for shipping on a slow boat from Australia.
Good luck finding a comparable stove for less. You've got 3 options, either get it made locally, ship it in from a reputable manufacturer, or buy Chinese knockoffs.
CAD$19 international shipping, flat rate
My Evernew Appalachian set weighs 5.67 oz compared to the Goshaw set at 7.3/8 oz. Not sure about the Goshawk but the burn chamber on the Evernew Appalachian set is really to small for a decent wood fire. The Goshawk brass stoves , I have the Goshawk Siphon Alcohol Stove , Steampunk EDDY-X and it's something else. It blooms in 12 seconds and can be used alone with a pot.
The evernew seems like the pot nesting feature is it's biggest drawback. Instead of letting the heat pass over the bottom of the pot, it's forced to exit through the side holes and it heats the stove walls up instead of the pot, and then reengages with the sidewall of the pot further up.
Another great video. How does it compare to the trangia 27 or 25?
Waaaay lighter and great at boiling water. The trangia gives you simmer control and allows for proper cooking. The goshawk and alcohol stove both fit in a Toaks 750ml pot, that’s tiny and light at only 9 oz. The trangia is around 32 oz depending on the size and pots included.
Alcohol stove: Relatively heavy, inefficient (narrow pot bottom), still needs a tall (heavy) windscreen. Sit-on-top alcohol stoves which are short need shorter, lighter windscreens, which always makes them a better option, imo.
Wood stove: Too small. Small burn chambers always require constant attention. Looks like it would be a smoker with a pot on top, and, just like an alcohol stove, the heat isn't directed onto the middle of the pot, like a pressurized gas stove: much of the heat is lost to the air. Wider pots are better at collecting the heat from alcohol and wood burners.
Those who "must" have a tiny pot (cup) should use a canister stove for best efficiency.
Ernie, could you do a timed boil test using identical wood stoves and pots?
Prospective wood stove owners deserve to know what a pain it is to use a tiny wood stove with damp wood: even gasification stoves smoke under wet conditions.
I appreciate your reviews, Ernie.👍
Very well said, I love my various wood burners, but I love them because I enjoy the tending and so on. They are not right for everyone they are inefficient, smokey and require constant attention, even my in tent portable stove which can swallow all my other wood burners inside the burn chamber is still so small that it needs hourly attention.
If all that work sounds like exactly the sort of thing you want to spend your evening on, wood stoves are fantastic for those places that ban open fires but allow them - otherwise, at the very least, take a back up!
This alcohol burner in the multi fuel stove actually does a decent job, albeit slightly less fuel efficient than some other burners. The jets are angled so they burn in a circle, not just out.
The wood stove is actually pretty good as well. With dry wood about as big around as my thumb no more than 2.5" long, about 3/4 full burning from the top down, I got it to boil 500ml in less than 8 minutes from 55F. I did have to move the pot and add about 3 more pieces to get it to boil, but it was done before they burned out.
The alcohol burner of the is the same Lixada "siphon" - copycat of Toaks "siphon", by their turn copycat of FREVO R (Tetkoba's/Bird Brain CHS) stove, type not much fuel efficient, just boil faster.
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only gripe would be that the pot is not a solid, sleave-like fit to the wind screen this would be similar to the inferno/ sterno burner.
Watched the video. Then order me one.
I have one of the multifuel stove and it does great at focusing the heat and efficiency with twigs. The one thing I haven’t really found a good solution for is snuffing out the siphon alcohol burner when inside. Have you found a solution or do you just let it burn out?
Whenever you find a solution, lemme know. I was thinking just a disc of heavy aluminum foil, but if it gets any creases in it, it's not gonna work right.
@@toastiesburned9929 I found the bottom of a small tin can (I think it was a Campbell’s condensed soup) works real well. I leave some lip on to close off air and made a removable handle from an old folding spork. There are probably lighter solutions, but it works.
@@ssos4540 if you pour all the water out of your pot, like into your coffee cup or freeze dried bag, you can probably just put the empty pot over it. I haven't tried it, but I don't know why it wouldn't work. I'll try the soup can lid trick
@@toastiesburned9929 That would work sometimes but frequently in mornings the pot is doubling as a French Press for coffee, so it is not emptied immediately. The soup can bottom seems good. A soda can bottom would also work. I like the cans better than flat pieces, because the lips going around the outside cut off the oxygen better even if not tight.
Mark Young made a video addressing these issues, using a Lixada branded, same size siphon stove, including a simmer ring & snuffer, which allows u to conserve & save alcohol fuel, as u can easily dump out the excess, after snuffing, rather than just letting it burn off! Idr what it was made from, (a pop-top tuna can) but another user said a soda pop can is lighter.
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Suluk Una and Una Mini have it beat for weight by alot for worlds lightest gasifier stove... But price wise it's hard to put those two stoves in the same category.
Just looked up the una, makes these here look like someone made them in their garage.
They look great, but at nearly 4 times the price are they 4 times better? I think a lot of the weight of the Goshawk is in all those steel rivets.
@@mikevandebunt811 agreed, here's my 2 cents. I love stoves to , I have a lot of the older white gas types, my favorite being the coleman denali. But, I have several canister stoves as well. Also the solo wood stove and a few others, the only one I would rely on would be a kelly kettle. With the super light weight stoves, while pretty and cool factor aside, I think these days I wouldn't take any. I'd just take a small grill and use rocks I found at camp. If I'm carrying a pot , I wouldn't take the grill either. But yeah they look cool.
I saw the Una, and instantly had to have it! I looked at the price, and instantly forgot all about it! Love my goshawk multi-fuel stove tho. If I have time to build a fire, I probably wouldn't use it at all. It's not for camping, it's for hiking. If you aren't backpacking, use a bigger flame!
Pretty neat stoves. The alcohol stove is a blatant copy of the toaks siphen stove. Would be interesting to see how those rivets hold out in the gasifier stove. Might I ask what the height of the wood stove is? I have a 900ml pot, but it's a bit shorter than the toaks 750.
Hmm their alcohol stove weighs 42g which is 2x as heavy as the toaks (20g). Is it twice as large?
@@AtomicBleachyes, holds 100ml of alcohol
Will the Stanley Adventure cup sit on either of these two stoves? Where the hell you been Ernie?
No, cuz of curved bottom diameter is too small, but I carry a s/s grate that fits fine, and allows any small size cup
Hahaha. I would have pronounced it Go-shawk too. Thanks for the correction of the Aussie pronunciation.
Are the rivets on the multifuel stainless Steel or aluminium.?
I don't believe it is aluminum. Mine would be trashed by now. I'm pretty sure they're just steel, not sure about stainless, the one on the pot stands are like brass or something.
@@toastiesburned9929 thanks
Wood? Do you know how often you would be reloading that thing with wood. I have a BioLite and it's bad enough and it's twice that size LOL
I agree. Batch loader stoves are a nuisance.
It's really not as bad as you think. Mine boiled 500ml in
Yeah who would want a nice heavier handle that you can actually use on the pot without burning your hands or having to wear gloves to use it?
Now, of there ever is a titanium version of the Solo Stove Titan, I'd be throwing all the money in the world at it. I'm too wimpy to use wood stoves that 'leak' embers so easily.
It's not that serious. You could literally just bring a piece of thick aluminum foil, like from a turkey pan to set it on. Definitely don't use a wood stove on anything you don't want burned, even a solo.
Check out the Una stove. If price is not a concern, they already make what you're looking for.
i find there is a PRO version of this wood stove, but nobody have review still
Buy it and do a review!
Goss hawk Go shock GO FIGURE lol
Nice review, but these types of companies shouldn’t be given any press (for the knockoff designs).
The alcohol stove is a direct rip-off of a Toaks Siphon Stove design. As mentioned, the stand is a direct rip-off of the Evernew DX Stand.
WITH that said, their gasifier stove looks excellent! They can innovate… why copy the other stuff??
Agreed. I’ll stick with my Toaks inside my Firebox Ti Nano.
The handle looks like a cheesy copy of the pot handle used on the Stanley products.
But since it comes off, you can use it like a set of tongs to pick up the stove by the top air holes
I have the Firebox Nano and won’t buy such a small wood stove again. There’s a lot of work with it, and close to impossible in moist conditions. I see it as a learning experience, as an almost continuous lesson in fire lighting, but I won’t need more than one stove to make life this difficult.
I can understand the idea of saving weight, but the whole idea behind that is to save work and with the amount of added work in keeping this up I doubt it’s worth it.
It’s for the slower trips, where you may easily spend an hour on food and drink anyway and you’ll use lots of fuel, that the larger stoves have their function. You can drop the anxiety over fuel and just let it run as much as you’ll bother. Almost like a campfire. And these small stoves are just too much work to do that.
A gasifier stove is a completely different story! Fill it with tiny sticks and twigs, light it from the top, and 8min later I had boiling water. I threw a few more pieces in to keep it going, but they didnt fully burn before the water boiled
@@toastiesburned9929 I do have a gasiefer stove of a larger size, the Solo Stove Titan. And it has troubles with wet wood as well.
On one side, it burns more efficiently and that helps, but a small burn chamber creates troubles none the less. And for carrying, a gasifier stove is an inefficient way to carry a burn chamber of decent size.
I agree there’s upsides to gasifier stoves: Less smoke and pollution, and less need of firewood. But firewood is usually easy to find, and if you can have a large enough fire to burn hot it isn’t that bad. So while I can appreciate a larger gasifier stove if I can afford to carry it, it’s fine. But not the smaller ones please.
Can I have your Nano then? Mine is by far my favorite stove.
@@RustyKnorr Well, no. I like to have something for every occasion, and it's just that I live in a very coastal climate. When your firewood isn't dry, and it rarely is in these woods, you use half the space in your stove for fuel that won't burn yet. But we do have dry spells, especially in spring and early summer, and if it isn't an outright fireban yet (due to the entire area being flammable) it can be used. I wouldn't bring it without an alcohol burner or something as backup, though.
Only issue is you have to put a soot covered stove inside your pot. Cool system though.
The metal is so thin and the fire is so hot, it all burns to ash and barely any "soot" is left. Yeah, there's a few flakes of ash at the bottom, but if you're that worried about ashes in your food, I wouldn't cook over a wood fire anyway.
Dude, easy on the freakin saturation on your video. Damn, you’re hurting my eyes. 😵💫😵
So you’re just doing paid advertising?
Not bad, but why pay money for this?….I make an alcohol stove that is also a wood gasifier stove for $5 and it works just as good… my alcohol stove boiled in 4 minutes with 1 ounce of 93% rubbing alcohol in 35 degree Fahrenheit …. And of course the wood burning a little longer because I placed the pot on top before the fire actually had completely started…
Are they for sale to the public?
Do you have any vids of it?
@@Saltfly I made it with my son a few years ago..he has it and still uses occasionally... Wish I had a vid...never thought of making any
I've made diy gasifier stoves out of soup cans and the like. They work fine. They get way sootier and have jagged edges and fall apart after a while and rust out and take forever to cool down, and they don't nest in my pot. If you're just fkin around in the back yard, you're right it is a waste of money. If you like to hike, it's worth it to not have something so chinsy as a diy hobo stove.
Pointless using wood on something so small. better to make a real fire and put a 3 sided grate u can enjoy fine cuisine with that type of set up. These things are fisher price camping set ups.
I think you're mistaken on the intended use of this stove. It's, in fact, not for camping. This is for hiking. If you're just going to a spot to pitch a tent for a few days, yeah, this is kind of a dumb thing to bring. You can just build a fire. This is for when you're on the move, but don't want to pay the high cost of butane, but also don't want to carry a half liter of alcohol. It's pretty niche, but not pointless. I'm not carrying a fking grilling grate with me through the woods, u cra
PS, this is primarily for heating water for dehydrated meals and coffee. If you brought steak, you might wanna eat that on the first night. Unless you're taking a cooler with you hiking 🤣🤣🤣