That episode is the reality of a lot of white women who develop into abusers and narcissists. It felt extremely true to the consequences of the toxic aspects of western and european society the last hundred years. Beatrice feels a lot like a few of my female relatives.
NotAPlane I couldn’t disagree more. The whole point of him having to live with everything, his mistakes, his unfortunate twists of life, his new-found loneliness as he’s further from friends then ever before. He has to keep living with himself and who he is as a person while continuing to slowly grow and try to be a better person.
@@procrastinator547 no, the point of the show is we're not good or bad guys as Diane said. Its up to the viewer to decide whether he's redeemed and life goes on regardless and bojack rebuilds--there are no clean cut answers just life. It was great with the notion life just goes on. lol
"We are worthy of forgiveness but we aren't owed it" is a great statement for this show full of great statements. That's the feeling the season finale gave me. People were able to let go of Bojack and his toxicity in different degrees - cutting him completely out like (presumably) Hollyhock or keeping in touch but no longer having him influence their life, like Todd and Princess Carolyn. Diane was able to say goodbye to Bojack, live her own life without him and continue to. Bojack has become a better person than he was before. But his friends and loved ones aren't a reward he gets for doing that. They get to choose to stay or go. And Bojack can just keep living as this better version of himself.
This is an absolutely perfect breakdown and analysis. I also love the direct link between how much less time Bojack has spent with the main cast and the upward trajectory of their lives. Their lives are better without Bojack and that's just a fact the audience has to accept and root for. Bojack can now take his reformed self and try everyday to do better for himself and the people who choose to have him in their life.
I gotta say, even though it made a lot of sense, this part was very sad to me. That his friends would eventually let go of him. But it warmed my heart that Mr. Peanutbutter remained his friend until the very end, and that Bojack could eventually accept and value him as his friend. I feel like Mr. Peanutbutter was the only one who actually *always* believed in Bojack being able to work on his issues. He always saw that there’s something good buried within Bojack while Diane or Princess Carolyn just gave him another chance and then another chance after that ... until they couldn’t take it anymore. Mr. Peanutbutter really loved him with an unconditional and selfless love - like a dog does.
This is all very well articulated. I’d like to add that maybe Mr. Peanutbutter was only able to remain friends with Bojack because throughout most of the show he wasn’t in his direct line of fire. He was alway kind of doing his own thing. He was definitely affected by BoJack but not to the extent PC and Diane were. (In my opinion)
Yep. I wanted to keep the final episode for awhile, make a big thing about watching it. After “The View from Halfway Down” I was way too emotional not to immediately click next. Kinda wish I had sat with it for awhile now though
I cried too: concept was really creative, performance was outstanding, build-ups were really great executed... but the BGM when Herb says "oh BoJack, there is no other side: this is it", oh man... Also, I realised something: if everything had gone as BoJack planned (Dianne answers the call), it wouldn't have worked: ok Dianne saved you and now you're ok, but now what, What's next? The "goal" of BoJack being saved by Dianne does not feel as an optimal outcome, let alone a closure, but the one where BoJack gets closure with Dianne by saying on the phone with her (and staying with her on the roof and them being thankful for everything they've been through, because I refuse to accept episode 15 as a finale) is a great outcome and closureIf BoJack has taught me something, is that you don't stop dancing 'til the curtain drops, and that's a bittersweet two-way street But hey, that's just my humble opinion
@@GeebleTron In fact, I disagree, I think it's Raphael Bob-Waksberg making fun of himself. All the notes on his walls were FORESHADOW , DOLPHIN SYMBOLISM?? and other things found in Bojack. Also, Lisa Hanawalt does most of the designs and she's working alongside the episode directors and showrunner.
The best animal joke is the fact that most the names of the people in the show would be pet names for them. Ex. Princess caroline, Mr. Peanutbutter, Cuddly Whiskers, Meow Meow Fuzzy face
One of my favorites is from Season 2 with Wanda and Bojack and Bojack says they should address the elephant in the room and this elephant working on his bed just goes "Wow. okay. Wow." and leaves
What I love about this interviews is that RBW constantly gives praise to his staff and names them. Shows that he knows it was a group effort and doesn’t have an ego
The part where Herb doesn't forgive Bojack helped me realise I don't HAVE to forgive anyone for their horrible actions. I'm not Obligated to accept it, Bojack made me realise a lot of things that's why it will forever be my favorite
Time's Arrow is fantastic, but I wish people gave more love to "The Old Sugarman Place". Fixing up the broken house, the widowed fly, the bits of family history. It's all brutal and beautiful.
@@nickwittednonpareil The Old Sugarman Place is one of my favorites. Anyone else loving Downer Ending episode in the first season? Brutal and beautiful as well, crazy trip through all the dark themes of the whole show. It was the first one that left me speechless, I realized the show was something very very special. Also I like their playing with animation styles
I'll have you know that I would have it replaying every night at one point, just like devilman crybaby. And Ill probably do it more times than I can count from here on out. It comforts me, is that weird?
This show is ahead of its time. Its truly opened the door to these larger conversations that I hope more show in the future are able to continue. Personally, the show has help me reconcile some of my own issues with mental health. The shows ability to critique subjects of mental illness, addiction, family dynamics with compassion, humor, and subjectivity has been so eye opening. Thanks to all the great minds that went into making something so important and relatable!
The show is overly dramatic, if your life is similar to the drama that is seen in the show then it is easily avoidable by just simply acting like an adult It was like watching a bunch of kids trying to be woke and getting upset at each other for such pitiful issues
@@sacr3 Ah... The self-declared perfectly rational person who takes satisfaction in belittling others' subjective experience by presuming his or her own experience is definitive of others'. If being an adult means forgoing the substance of being human, I'd rather stay a kid, thank you very much!
sacr3 are you serious ? If you think that you’re really missing the point , or are just lucky enough to not have experienced trauma . Everyone makes mistakes in life and does stupid things and a lot of times it’s in part because of the damage we’ve experienced. The show is a bit dramatic but many things that happen are relatable and many people have gone through themselves or know somebody who has.
i love it when artists and creators are open and articulate about their creation raphael always gives insightful interviews and makes me appreciate the show even more
I disagree, the show was far too dramatic for the issues being displayed. I had to stop after a couple seasons because I couldnt help but laugh at the issues they were having, if you act like an adult these issues would disappear. They only exist because these individuals are acting like children would.
@@sacr3 as someone who has struggled with depression I strongly disagree. Though I don't share that many experiences with the characters, it is impossible for us to understand problems we can't aren't familiar with. And the show helped me and made me feel heard, other than any other show
I think there are lots of shows, across many different styles, that try to use heavy, existential themes. The problem is some shows become a little too self indulgent and come off as pretentious even if they were still really good. Evangelion comes to mind. Where all these shows failed to live up to their complete potential Bojack Horseman succeeds. The ONLY complaint I really have about the show is sometimes it got a little too preachy. Bojack Horseman will be remembered for generations.
I always felt at times that the emotional moments were not given time to breathe and reflect upon, like s4ep2 when it could be better given a minute of reflection so that the emotions completely sink in. Also the comedy parts sometimes lessened the impact of emotional moments. I agree that sometimes the show can get too preachy,it isnt subtle anyway. The final season is flawed but the finale was beautiful. Btw this is one of my top 10 favorite show
It was overly dramatic and definitely too pushy, it trie too hard I found. Not anyone I know from the east coast to the west coast of canada has seen or talked about this show. It's not that great. If you're a social butterfly that is sensitive to woke topics and love drama, this is your show. If you're just a normal human being, well, it probably isnt a show for you. I say normal in that folks who work and focus on life around them, not life in the news and on social media.
sacr3 sacr3 Nah. Disagree. Mostly. I’ll grant you that the woke topics get a little much but the existentialist aspects and writing are done masterfully. Also, what a weird standard you’ve set here. I know plenty of what you consider “normal people” who love this show. You’ve pigeonholed this show into being only for “social butterflies” but I’ve introduced this show to lots of people and pretty much everyone loves it. There’s so much to this show that is wonderfully done. Yeah, maybe the old plumber who lives down the street that watches John Wayne movies on the daily wouldn’t like this show. But the themes concerning the human condition and the struggles of mental illness are done very well.
i want to know who sat down, in their office or at home or in their car and wrote "the view from halfway down." i want to know what went through their head, what caused them to write it as they did and what they felt inside when it was read in the episode. because i have never heard or read a poem that has moved me or shaken me to my core as much as that has. and i want to know who wrote it.
That episode was written by Alison Tafel. She wrote around 10 episodes including The Old Sugarman Place, which imo is also one of the best episodes in the whole show.
This show was a sudden- and great- surprise for me. I remember where I was in life when I was watching it. I was falling into a depression without even realizing it. I was constantly high on various substances. I was isolating myself and caving into this addictive feeling I had from it all. Soon enough, I was that person. Someone I could not even recognize. What shook me was a line from season 6 "“I bought into this idea that I was this thing that couldn’t be changed… the main thing I think about is how stupid I am that i didn’t do this sooner. i wasted so many years being miserable because i assumed that was the only way to be. i don’t wanna do that anymore.” I felt that to my core. Thank you for this show. Certainly one of a kind.
It was the same for me. The show was kind of my companion through the years as I was falling into addiction. I've rewatched it dozens of times now to the point that it feels like it's my bible, but I still distinctly remember where and how I first saw it...
@@JacksonKillroy I was literally thinking of rewatching Bojack Horseman again the other day, mostly because the person I was every year I have watched it is so different compared to the person I am now. The show was kind of my therapy. I remember feeling depressed, anxious, and relating and almost getting validation through the episodes. And also, it sort of made me stay in my cycle of sadness. I learn now that you need to truly fill your mind with positive thoughts and look at life in a less pessimistic way. So I am somewhat afraid that if I do watch it again, it will make me go down that addiction of feeling sad, angry, self pitiful, etc.... or, best case, I will be able to watch it without letting it tamper with my new mindset. and just sit back and just appreciate it. thanks for listening to my ted talk sorry ahaha
@@an-qo6by Haha, hey no problem, honestly. I can relate strongly to what you said about it being therapy AS WELL as validation. I know it often made me feel better about myself in a counterproductive way when I first watched it, like it almost normalized (if not even glamorized) being drugged out and lost. But for me at least, while it does remind me of how things used to be, I always see it with a new perspective when I rewatch it and it has never caused me to regress in any way.
When I think about the option of Forgiving Bojack I think about the times he’s said I’m sorry to people he screwed over and just think. Do you deserve to be forgiven because until you actually put your money where your mouth is the jury is out on that. I love the complication and relative human intricacies that Bojack has as a reflection of the ugliness that we as humans have and it also shows that there is always room for improvement. You do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself around... That’s what it’s all about.
"TV is a collaborative medium where one person receives all the credit" But seriously, the minds about Bojack are just incredible. This series is one in a million
Always nice to see people who made something that is precious to you and you realize that you are not mistaken, because the quality you see in this thing is actually in there, because smart and talented people put it there. It is an affirmation of your feelings twoards something as exceptional as this show. BoJack is something truly unique and has an overall quality that is somethimes hard to grasp or process. It is a joy to see that it is not an accident or your own mind reading stuff into it that isn't really there.
And that's why it makes me more angry to know that Netflix just cancelled it for no reason instead of letting it run its course. I'll never forgive, never forget.
@@Zeverinsen While I tend to agree, it led to a perfect ending for the show. And Netflix is not out there to produce great TV shows. It is out there to make money in a very tough market. They do what is profitable. And at the moment, that is new shows. It is a shame, but I don't blame them and in the end, it all falls back to what the viewers tune in to. After all, Netflix also made a show like BoJack possible and it has not once lost its quality over six years. The ending is not rushed, it came to a close, it is simply beautiful.
I've watched this show at least 8 times by now. And I feel very grateful, because it helped to realize some of my problems and fight my depressive thoughts. And I don't feel that lonely anymore, because it's on the show, someone else thinks of these problems and as many people resonate with the show I feel even better. I understand now that it's it's okay to be seeking for happiness at the moment when it seems to others that you have everything to be happy. It's okay to have bad emotions and thoughts as far as I'm working on it, it's okay to seek for professional help. God, this show gave me so much! Thank you!!!
Throughout the entire series, l was always close to crying but never did, all the way to the end of the last episode, yet when l rewatched the last scene and saw the lyrics of the song playing in the background, I broke down like never before. Such a beautiful show capable of showing true mental health, sad to see a masterpiece to go but all good things must come to an end.
Even though i'm gonna miss this show, part of me thinks that six seasons is a good number for the series to end on, because if it continued then i'm sure it would eventually get stale and and move past it's prime.
I don't agree. Netflix cancelled it, even though the creator specifically asked for a good amount of time to finish the show. I'm pretty sure it would've ended before 10 seasons, but it deserved at least 7 to actually wrap up their entire vision. Knowing that they did the best they could, but not having the opportunity to make it the best that it could be, makes me more furious. Essentially they cut us off from so much we'll never see, and I'll never forgive Netflix for it.
It's important that things end when they need to. As audience members we usually just keep wanting the good show to continue on in perpetuity as long as it's good. But all stories run out, and it's much better to finish the story while it's good than to just keep it going past its message in order to make money or please fans, that's when it gets stale and fans say "yeah the show kind of fell off after season 4..." then it would have been better to end at season 4 you know?
from an interview i read with the creator about the ending of the show, apparently he had a couple more themes and characters he wanted to explore and had some ideas for how to do it, but is still overall happy with how the show ended and happy that netflix gave him a long enough heads up so he can wrap the show as best as he could
I definitely think it needed one or two more seasons. Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy with the ending we got. But I feel that they really needed time to explore Bojack's tenure at the college, trying to be a better person and his attempts to develop a relationship with Hollyhock. That way we would have some time to really watch him grow and improve and maybe feel like he's truly heading for a better life; only for everything to come crashing down again one last time. Hollyhock's discovery of his past causing all the ground they made as siblings to shatter and fall away before his eyes, the reporters in the background digging up dirt in his past to drag him back to the reality that he never had to truly face up to some of the *massive* mistakes he'd made. It all would've hit so much harder if we'd had a full season to see his successes in moving on, and the steps he made towards recovery. Like I said, I'm completely content with the ending we got, but there was a lot of wasted potential. And while I'm glad Netflix kept to their word and warned the team ahead of time so they could craft a proper ending before the cancellation, I'm still kinda pissed that Netflix lacked the foresight to let Raphael complete the story as he wanted to. Ratings were still incredible, and audiences definitely wanted more, so there's really no excuse for cutting it short just when we were getting to the climax of Bojack's arc.
I love the way he mentions and highlights the way his crew and writers have helped create the show and make it so amazing. I wish Benioff and Weiss had been smart enough and humble enough to build a strong writers room for GoT. No matter how strong your creative vision is you always need help by others - especially in series spanning several seasons.
Diane always reminded me of this girl ive had a similar situation with, so The fact that nothing ever happened between her and bojack and they probably had to cut eachother off, hurt even more
The six dislikes are from Neal McBeal Mr. Aplenty Diane's mother Seahorse baby (thumbs have other meanings under water right?) Katrina American Singer Songwriter Beyonce
That comment near the end about the show articulating experiences that are otherwise difficult to express is so true. It's what made the show so powerful and cathartic to me. I see parts of myself in the characters that I knew were there but couldn't really pinpoint. It helped me feel more normal, like these parts of myself I'd never seen addressed anywhere else before are valid and human. I have struggled with the same tendencies to self-destruct, binge, procrastinate as these characters for most of my life and always felt ashamed of it. For years I wondered what was wrong with me and if anyone else ever experienced these things. Now a clear illustration exists I can point to, that I can use as a frame of reference in my constant marathon to keep on living and become better. The show has definitely helped me and so many other people and is a testament to the power of art to illuminate new facets of the human experience.
this show really provides the viewer with a very rich and useful vocabulary for expressing very emotionally complex situations. that, to me, is an invaluable service and i am not surprised that it has helped many people recognize and talk about their problems.
Ryan Hartwell the great part about that is that it’s so real that the fact that it isn’t sad is hopeful. It shows that there’s a chance that it doesn’t have to be sad.
The view from half way down was hands down the best episode to come out of this show, but it couldn’t have been possible with all the “good damage” from the show
floppy loppy It was good. But I was just like sad with the ending. I know it wouldn’t go with the shows theme but I was hoping it could end on a happier note.
I like RBW's comment about being worthy of grace but not owed it. No one exactly deserves forgiveness, its not something you are entitled too, but it is absolutely necessary for moving forward, and by fighting to change you can perhaps be worthy of it. It makes me think...
@@ElvishShellfish No it isn't. What you just said is it's the responsibility of the person wronged to assist the person who wronged them in moving forward. And it isn't. It never was and never will be. The person who committed harm is owed absolutely nothing and if they try to apologize and receive no forgiveness then that's just the way it is. What they need to do is continue taking responsibility for the reality of their actions, accept it and move on.
@@bleh329 I uhh... said that we are not entitled to nor owed forgiveness. I agree with you on that point. I think there's something about being human that makes us potentially worthy of forgiveness almost inherently... I dunno, that kind of contradicts what I said earlier. I need to think for myself what the difference is between being worthy of forgiveness and being entitled to it. Like I said, this makes me think. Maybe I was sloppy in saying we absolutely need forgiveness to move forward. Absolutely if you want to actually continue to have a relationship with someone after they hurt you, you would need to forgive them, and they would need to own their actions and "turn themselves around" and make the effort to grow. If the relationship doesn't or can't continue, I suppose both parties can go on living life without forgiveness. However, I think for the healing process to complete (as much as possible-hurt may always be there), the hurt person would need to forgive the perpetrator, and the perpetrator would need to forgive himself. Sometimes this is impossible, and there is just a gaping wound left in that part of someone's life, and that's just the way it is.
Tbh I don't think he ever truly could for what he's done and what he's caused. At least at the end he genuinely feels bad and tries to change for what he's done. It's really strange because you can't help but root for him in a weird way. I think maybe he is a better person towards the end of it. All he can do now is just move forward really and try to be a decent person. Hell that's how good the writing is in this show. Because when people make mistakes whether it be minor or terrible that's all we can really do and if needed in some instances try to right wrongs that have been done.
@Fiona Cha I think that's a really profound statement! It makes me think of all the times I've been miserable or happy, the state of my mind literally could sometimes define that, as opposed to my circumstances. We can not control most of how people chose to think of us, we can only forgive and chose to treat ourselves well. Maybe a big lesson for Bojack was to stop running after the Hollywoo (d) machine to fix his brokenness.
Damn, seeing all these people claiming all the things that I feel is sure comforting to me. It was a show that I whatched since the second season and it was so impactful. I was able to get out of a two way toxic relationship, exchange my major to one that would make me happy and the show helped me cope with my depression episodes. Even though I felt even worse than when I was depressed sometimes. It is such an amazing show and I will miss it so much. It feels like I've lost friends of mine. But I think that's what makes Bojack special. If you like, you love it and it makes you forever marked by it.
I finished watching It last night, i'm so thankful to everyone that contribuited to create bojack horseman, It's one of the best series ever, to me one with the best dialogues, i've appreciated every second of It, thank YOU so much
So many mind-blowing episodes.. This man is a genius and this show is in the top-10 greatest of all times, animated or live, along with The Sopranos, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, etc
His last point about the show articulating things you've felt but have never properly been able to explain is so true. For me, I think the biggest one was Diane's "Good Damage" monologue and her conversation with PB at the end. So poignant for me personally. Love the show, immensely sad to see it go, but happy that it ended so beautifully.
I could never fully state how much this show has helped and formed me. It helped me survive the trickiest time in my life and was one of the deciding factors that made me get therapy and eventually overcome my suicidal mindset. It's taught me so many lessons that might've saved my life at some points and given me a healthy perspective on life and making it through my teens. I can't imagine what I'd be like now without it. Whenever I'm in a rough state for a while I return to the show and it always helps. I believe every kid my age when ready should watch this undeniable masterpiece. Thank you Waksberg, what you've made is truly incredible.
This oral history about Bojack is such a good series about the series Bojack. Bojack is such a beautiful, heart breaking, funny, depressing, heartwarming show. I cant think of a show that is as good as this one. I will miss it, I'm glad to have watched it. Thanks for these webisodes that talks a little bit about it.
Anyone else think he looks a bit like Herb? I don't think we're all deserving of forgiveness. Even if a person works to make themselves better, makes that effort, and actually manages to change, the people they've harmed along the way owe them nothing. And, pending the type of harm, asking someone for forgiveness is asking a lot. And might even risk opening wounds they'd managed to leave behind. It's putting a responsibility on their shoulders on behalf of the person who put a lot on their shoulders in the first place. They now have to carry around this harm, possibly for the rest of their lives. The person who's done wrong has already given them enough responsibility in this way. Either way, forgiveness is a religious concept that's trickled down into the version of it we have today. People act as if forgiveness is essential. They'll argue the value of it to the person harmed, both to their benefit and even the benefit to the person who committed the harm. But for the reasons mentioned above, I think doing so is largely inconsiderate and irresponsible.
I am so grateful that this mastermind and his entire crew exists. Really RBW and the writers have done an amazing job and i will be forever looking up to this show as one of the biggest and most enlightening experiences ever. Much love
Initially, (1) I couldn't stomach the idea of watching yet another animated show for adults and (2) the main character is a "Horse/Man"?!! Due to the Stay @ Home order, I decided to binge watch all of the episodes. I am so mad at myself for not being more open-minded and willing to watch the show back in 2016. I instantly fell in love with the show. I am disappointed and unwilling to accept that there will be no more BJH episodes. "I'm A Grown A@# Todd", has to be my favorite line.
It's interesting that he mentions "Say Anything" as the first big turning point of the series. To me, Princess Carolyn was always the "heart" of the series. She dumps Bojack in the very first episode, continues being his agent and goes on to both care for him and call him out on his behaviour during the series. She's also one of the most grounded characters in the series. In "Brrap Brrap Pew Pew" (one of the most female-centric episodes where Bojack almost seem like a goofy side-character), she even gets to put Diane in her place. She's also the main reason the series doesn't end with a total anti-climax, as she get the most heart-warming ending of all characters in the last season.
I wish i could show the makers of this masterpiece that Ive thought so much about this show, how its incredible on all the levels and I appreciate this show so much, it is en will always be in my heart
Wait, Weird Al is Captain Peanutbutter? I either totally missed or totally forget that! :O And it is a totally serious role. He doesn't even tell a joke. The mind boggles!
Fish out of water is one of my least favorite episodes, but times arrow is probably my nr 1, although the view from halfway down might have taken that spot.
Times Arrow was my number 1. Then it was Free Churro. Now it’s The View from Half Way Down. I guess all in all those are my three favorite episodes and the order doesn’t really matter.
everybody is talking about how this show opened a new gate for animation or created a new age in comments, but i dont agree with that. bojack horseman is such a precious show and i dont think there will be any show that will go in it's way and reach it's story-telling. im not saying "omg its at the top!!!best thing that human kind can ever create!!", its just has this uncomparable atmosphere with the jokes, characters, artstyle etc. its such a unique story to tell in such a... unique way. there is no other and i dont think there will be an other similar.
13:05 Freaking A was he right. I had a similar experience with a person that Herb and Bojack had, I was Herb and this guy was Bojack. We kinda were friends but not really, by high school, he was my bully and tormented me, causing me to develop PTSD as a result. He was a horrible guy and this show taught me forgiveness is not owed to anyone and its okay not to forgive so long as it doesn't consume you. And to this, I proudly say I will never forgive this person for all the horrible things he's done to me.
"wouldn't it be cool to tell a story from beatrice's perspective" by cool do you mean immensely emotionally scarring
Tha episode is one of the best ever written for television.
And yes, the scars will never disappear
That episode is the reality of a lot of white women who develop into abusers and narcissists. It felt extremely true to the consequences of the toxic aspects of western and european society the last hundred years. Beatrice feels a lot like a few of my female relatives.
Scars are cool
Exactly.
I wish he could have talked about "The View From Halfway Down." What an incredibly dark and powerful episode
@NotAPlane no lol
NotAPlane I couldn’t disagree more. The whole point of him having to live with everything, his mistakes, his unfortunate twists of life, his new-found loneliness as he’s further from friends then ever before. He has to keep living with himself and who he is as a person while continuing to slowly grow and try to be a better person.
@@procrastinator547 no, the point of the show is we're not good or bad guys as Diane said. Its up to the viewer to decide whether he's redeemed and life goes on regardless and bojack rebuilds--there are no clean cut answers just life. It was great with the notion life just goes on. lol
Adam Azzalino ya? Did you reply to the wrong person? I’m not disagreeing with you
procrastinator547 you guys almost said the same thing hahahaha
"We are worthy of forgiveness but we aren't owed it" is a great statement for this show full of great statements. That's the feeling the season finale gave me. People were able to let go of Bojack and his toxicity in different degrees - cutting him completely out like (presumably) Hollyhock or keeping in touch but no longer having him influence their life, like Todd and Princess Carolyn. Diane was able to say goodbye to Bojack, live her own life without him and continue to. Bojack has become a better person than he was before. But his friends and loved ones aren't a reward he gets for doing that. They get to choose to stay or go. And Bojack can just keep living as this better version of himself.
This is an absolutely perfect breakdown and analysis. I also love the direct link between how much less time Bojack has spent with the main cast and the upward trajectory of their lives. Their lives are better without Bojack and that's just a fact the audience has to accept and root for. Bojack can now take his reformed self and try everyday to do better for himself and the people who choose to have him in their life.
I gotta say, even though it made a lot of sense, this part was very sad to me. That his friends would eventually let go of him. But it warmed my heart that Mr. Peanutbutter remained his friend until the very end, and that Bojack could eventually accept and value him as his friend. I feel like Mr. Peanutbutter was the only one who actually *always* believed in Bojack being able to work on his issues. He always saw that there’s something good buried within Bojack while Diane or Princess Carolyn just gave him another chance and then another chance after that ... until they couldn’t take it anymore. Mr. Peanutbutter really loved him with an unconditional and selfless love - like a dog does.
@@fjodorf7341 yes. Peanutbutter is everything.
This is all very well articulated. I’d like to add that maybe Mr. Peanutbutter was only able to remain friends with Bojack because throughout most of the show he wasn’t in his direct line of fire. He was alway kind of doing his own thing. He was definitely affected by BoJack but not to the extent PC and Diane were. (In my opinion)
Didn’t even talk about Free Churro..
It was on our list, but we just ran out of time - maybe some other time down the line.
@@jmearescjr That would be fantastic
I adore the show but I think Free Churro is overrated
@@manuam98 You clearly didn't read Camus
@@RS-kt6is No, I just heard about him on UA-cam essays. You probably did as well.
“Oh bojack, no... there is no other side. This is it.”
every time I hear "....Sarah Lynn...?" I get chills....
Season 6 Episode 15 made me cry harder than I've ever cried before. I cannot believe the impact that this show has had on me
Yep. I wanted to keep the final episode for awhile, make a big thing about watching it.
After “The View from Halfway Down” I was way too emotional not to immediately click next.
Kinda wish I had sat with it for awhile now though
That episode was so good i had to rewind it like 5 times it did not want it to end
Yes!!!! I could not stop crying. My throat was in paaain
I cried too. I thought it was the end for bojack
I cried too: concept was really creative, performance was outstanding, build-ups were really great executed... but the BGM when Herb says "oh BoJack, there is no other side: this is it", oh man... Also, I realised something: if everything had gone as BoJack planned (Dianne answers the call), it wouldn't have worked: ok Dianne saved you and now you're ok, but now what, What's next? The "goal" of BoJack being saved by Dianne does not feel as an optimal outcome, let alone a closure, but the one where BoJack gets closure with Dianne by saying on the phone with her (and staying with her on the roof and them being thankful for everything they've been through, because I refuse to accept episode 15 as a finale) is a great outcome and closureIf BoJack has taught me something, is that you don't stop dancing 'til the curtain drops, and that's a bittersweet two-way street
But hey, that's just my humble opinion
He’s kind of dressed like flip, the writer of Philbert, in the show
Elizabeth Delossantos I'm sure this was entirely intentional from the animation studio, like an in-joke (if this is his usual attire)
John Douglas LaBerge honestly that wouldn’t be surprising
@@GeebleTron In fact, I disagree, I think it's Raphael Bob-Waksberg making fun of himself. All the notes on his walls were FORESHADOW , DOLPHIN SYMBOLISM?? and other things found in Bojack. Also, Lisa Hanawalt does most of the designs and she's working alongside the episode directors and showrunner.
He also has some visual similarities with Herb
@@zyaffee I agree. It's kind of fascinating to me because it can reflect the creators perspective and Herb feels like a really "real" person.
The best animal joke is the fact that most the names of the people in the show would be pet names for them. Ex. Princess caroline, Mr. Peanutbutter, Cuddly Whiskers, Meow Meow Fuzzy face
I spit out my tea when I saw fuzzy face first introduced himself. "I'm officer fuzzy face, meow meow fuzzy face." I died.
Mr. Chocolate Hazelnut Spread?
Sun and Moon that was cute to smile at but def not the best joke
One of my favorites is from Season 2 with Wanda and Bojack and Bojack says they should address the elephant in the room and this elephant working on his bed just goes "Wow. okay. Wow." and leaves
Neal McBeal, the Navy SEAL
How can they talk about guest stars and not bring up Character Actress Margo Martindale smh
@Dina M Margot is behind the camera.
Or Lin Manuel Miranda
Or Daniel Radcliffe
@Dina M True! Un-Jessica Biel-ievable!
FREAKING PAUL MCCARTNEY!!!
What I love about this interviews is that RBW constantly gives praise to his staff and names them. Shows that he knows it was a group effort and doesn’t have an ego
The part where Herb doesn't forgive Bojack helped me realise I don't HAVE to forgive anyone for their horrible actions. I'm not Obligated to accept it, Bojack made me realise a lot of things that's why it will forever be my favorite
I think everyone loves free churro but time's arrow is an absolutely incredible episode
Time's Arrow is fantastic, but I wish people gave more love to "The Old Sugarman Place". Fixing up the broken house, the widowed fly, the bits of family history. It's all brutal and beautiful.
My favorite episodes are for sure The Old Sugarman Place, Fish Out of Water, Time's Arrow and The View From Halfway Down.
@@nickwittednonpareil The Old Sugarman Place is one of my favorites. Anyone else loving Downer Ending episode in the first season? Brutal and beautiful as well, crazy trip through all the dark themes of the whole show. It was the first one that left me speechless, I realized the show was something very very special. Also I like their playing with animation styles
It's the old sugarman place for me
@@nickwittednonpareilyes it’s in my top 5
I’m gonna miss this show, so much.
It's a great re-watch. Even multiple times...
The Heart Of A Blackbird agreed. The darkness of the later seasons have helped me appreciate the earlier seasons. A lot of fun
I'll have you know that I would have it replaying every night at one point, just like devilman crybaby. And Ill probably do it more times than I can count from here on out. It comforts me, is that weird?
@@SickxSoul Maybe weird, but I do the same thing with other shows. I'm sure this one will have a similar place as well. Weird is good.
A comic show about speaking animals is the most realistic and relatable show about life
Hey, isn't that the guy that made Horsin Around
oh yeah
Erika!!
Hay*
THREE LITTLE ORPHANS ONE TWO THREEEEEEEEe
😂
This show is ahead of its time. Its truly opened the door to these larger conversations that I hope more show in the future are able to continue. Personally, the show has help me reconcile some of my own issues with mental health. The shows ability to critique subjects of mental illness, addiction, family dynamics with compassion, humor, and subjectivity has been so eye opening. Thanks to all the great minds that went into making something so important and relatable!
The show is overly dramatic, if your life is similar to the drama that is seen in the show then it is easily avoidable by just simply acting like an adult
It was like watching a bunch of kids trying to be woke and getting upset at each other for such pitiful issues
@@sacr3 Ah... The self-declared perfectly rational person who takes satisfaction in belittling others' subjective experience by presuming his or her own experience is definitive of others'. If being an adult means forgoing the substance of being human, I'd rather stay a kid, thank you very much!
sacr3 are you serious ? If you think that you’re really missing the point , or are just lucky enough to not have experienced trauma . Everyone makes mistakes in life and does stupid things and a lot of times it’s in part because of the damage we’ve experienced. The show is a bit dramatic but many things that happen are relatable and many people have gone through themselves or know somebody who has.
True dat
@@sacr3
What makes anime no different?
The fact that Weird Al is a fan of Bojack Horseman makes me so happy.
it makes me SO happy
i love it when artists and creators are open and articulate about their creation
raphael always gives insightful interviews and makes me appreciate the show even more
the moment "that's too much, man!" showed up tears filled my eyes and my stomach dropped
Will artnet deserves an Oscar for his performance of free churro. And the writers, the best screenplay Oscar.
I disagree, the show was far too dramatic for the issues being displayed. I had to stop after a couple seasons because I couldnt help but laugh at the issues they were having, if you act like an adult these issues would disappear. They only exist because these individuals are acting like children would.
@@sacr3 as someone who has struggled with depression I strongly disagree. Though I don't share that many experiences with the characters, it is impossible for us to understand problems we can't aren't familiar with. And the show helped me and made me feel heard, other than any other show
@@sacr3 but like, watch whatever you want
You know that an Oscar is for movies, right?
@@guichiaccion u know what i mean..
This is the show that defined the decade
Turned out to be far better and more culturally relevant than R&M. That surprises me.
@@Andrew-ht7rf
What about regular show?
I think there are lots of shows, across many different styles, that try to use heavy, existential themes. The problem is some shows become a little too self indulgent and come off as pretentious even if they were still really good. Evangelion comes to mind. Where all these shows failed to live up to their complete potential Bojack Horseman succeeds. The ONLY complaint I really have about the show is sometimes it got a little too preachy.
Bojack Horseman will be remembered for generations.
Could I ask which parts you found preachy? I'd love to look a those plot points through that lens
I agree with your statement another show I feel like balances existential themes is adventure time
I always felt at times that the emotional moments were not given time to breathe and reflect upon, like s4ep2 when it could be better given a minute of reflection so that the emotions completely sink in. Also the comedy parts sometimes lessened the impact of emotional moments. I agree that sometimes the show can get too preachy,it isnt subtle anyway. The final season is flawed but the finale was beautiful. Btw this is one of my top 10 favorite show
It was overly dramatic and definitely too pushy, it trie too hard I found. Not anyone I know from the east coast to the west coast of canada has seen or talked about this show.
It's not that great. If you're a social butterfly that is sensitive to woke topics and love drama, this is your show. If you're just a normal human being, well, it probably isnt a show for you. I say normal in that folks who work and focus on life around them, not life in the news and on social media.
sacr3 sacr3 Nah. Disagree. Mostly. I’ll grant you that the woke topics get a little much but the existentialist aspects and writing are done masterfully. Also, what a weird standard you’ve set here. I know plenty of what you consider “normal people” who love this show. You’ve pigeonholed this show into being only for “social butterflies” but I’ve introduced this show to lots of people and pretty much everyone loves it. There’s so much to this show that is wonderfully done. Yeah, maybe the old plumber who lives down the street that watches John Wayne movies on the daily wouldn’t like this show. But the themes concerning the human condition and the struggles of mental illness are done very well.
I cried my eyes out watching "Free Churo"
I had to stop and sob after "I was your son. All I had was you"
Endless sobbing, I'm actually haunted by free churro
I had to pause it and first take it all in before continuing
Would love to see a complete blu ray set with extras like table reads and stuff from the actors.. . The chemistry between the cast is perfect!
Oh man, now I wanna see this
i want to know who sat down, in their office or at home or in their car and wrote "the view from halfway down." i want to know what went through their head, what caused them to write it as they did and what they felt inside when it was read in the episode. because i have never heard or read a poem that has moved me or shaken me to my core as much as that has. and i want to know who wrote it.
That episode was written by Alison Tafel. She wrote around 10 episodes including The Old Sugarman Place, which imo is also one of the best episodes in the whole show.
This show was a sudden- and great- surprise for me. I remember where I was in life when I was watching it. I was falling into a depression without even realizing it. I was constantly high on various substances. I was isolating myself and caving into this addictive feeling I had from it all. Soon enough, I was that person. Someone I could not even recognize. What shook me was a line from season 6 "“I bought into this idea that I was this thing that couldn’t be changed… the main thing I think about is how stupid I am that i didn’t do this sooner. i wasted so many years being miserable because i assumed that was the only way to be. i don’t wanna do that anymore.” I felt that to my core. Thank you for this show. Certainly one of a kind.
I liked that comment under the other video and I will like it in this video!
@@hbluemole6941 hahaha u the best
It was the same for me. The show was kind of my companion through the years as I was falling into addiction. I've rewatched it dozens of times now to the point that it feels like it's my bible, but I still distinctly remember where and how I first saw it...
@@JacksonKillroy I was literally thinking of rewatching Bojack Horseman again the other day, mostly because the person I was every year I have watched it is so different compared to the person I am now. The show was kind of my therapy. I remember feeling depressed, anxious, and relating and almost getting validation through the episodes. And also, it sort of made me stay in my cycle of sadness. I learn now that you need to truly fill your mind with positive thoughts and look at life in a less pessimistic way. So I am somewhat afraid that if I do watch it again, it will make me go down that addiction of feeling sad, angry, self pitiful, etc.... or, best case, I will be able to watch it without letting it tamper with my new mindset. and just sit back and just appreciate it. thanks for listening to my ted talk sorry ahaha
@@an-qo6by Haha, hey no problem, honestly. I can relate strongly to what you said about it being therapy AS WELL as validation. I know it often made me feel better about myself in a counterproductive way when I first watched it, like it almost normalized (if not even glamorized) being drugged out and lost. But for me at least, while it does remind me of how things used to be, I always see it with a new perspective when I rewatch it and it has never caused me to regress in any way.
When I think about the option of Forgiving Bojack I think about the times he’s said I’m sorry to people he screwed over and just think. Do you deserve to be forgiven because until you actually put your money where your mouth is the jury is out on that. I love the complication and relative human intricacies that Bojack has as a reflection of the ugliness that we as humans have and it also shows that there is always room for improvement. You do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself around... That’s what it’s all about.
MelaninSweetie Sugar Good analogy
Best apology is changed behavior
"TV is a collaborative medium where one person receives all the credit"
But seriously, the minds about Bojack are just incredible. This series is one in a million
Always nice to see people who made something that is precious to you and you realize that you are not mistaken, because the quality you see in this thing is actually in there, because smart and talented people put it there. It is an affirmation of your feelings twoards something as exceptional as this show. BoJack is something truly unique and has an overall quality that is somethimes hard to grasp or process. It is a joy to see that it is not an accident or your own mind reading stuff into it that isn't really there.
And that's why it makes me more angry to know that Netflix just cancelled it for no reason instead of letting it run its course.
I'll never forgive, never forget.
@@Zeverinsen While I tend to agree, it led to a perfect ending for the show. And Netflix is not out there to produce great TV shows. It is out there to make money in a very tough market. They do what is profitable. And at the moment, that is new shows. It is a shame, but I don't blame them and in the end, it all falls back to what the viewers tune in to. After all, Netflix also made a show like BoJack possible and it has not once lost its quality over six years. The ending is not rushed, it came to a close, it is simply beautiful.
This! It’s like you can feel the passion of the people who made it and this is just confirmation
I've watched this show at least 8 times by now. And I feel very grateful, because it helped to realize some of my problems and fight my depressive thoughts. And I don't feel that lonely anymore, because it's on the show, someone else thinks of these problems and as many people resonate with the show I feel even better. I understand now that it's it's okay to be seeking for happiness at the moment when it seems to others that you have everything to be happy. It's okay to have bad emotions and thoughts as far as I'm working on it, it's okay to seek for professional help. God, this show gave me so much! Thank you!!!
Throughout the entire series, l was always close to crying but never did, all the way to the end of the last episode, yet when l rewatched the last scene and saw the lyrics of the song playing in the background, I broke down like never before. Such a beautiful show capable of showing true mental health, sad to see a masterpiece to go but all good things must come to an end.
Even though i'm gonna miss this show, part of me thinks that six seasons is a good number for the series to end on, because if it continued then i'm sure it would eventually get stale and and move past it's prime.
Not to mention that the last stretch of episodes have been some of the best we've seen from the show. It really did end while it was still great
I don't agree.
Netflix cancelled it, even though the creator specifically asked for a good amount of time to finish the show.
I'm pretty sure it would've ended before 10 seasons, but it deserved at least 7 to actually wrap up their entire vision.
Knowing that they did the best they could, but not having the opportunity to make it the best that it could be, makes me more furious.
Essentially they cut us off from so much we'll never see, and I'll never forgive Netflix for it.
It's important that things end when they need to. As audience members we usually just keep wanting the good show to continue on in perpetuity as long as it's good. But all stories run out, and it's much better to finish the story while it's good than to just keep it going past its message in order to make money or please fans, that's when it gets stale and fans say "yeah the show kind of fell off after season 4..." then it would have been better to end at season 4 you know?
from an interview i read with the creator about the ending of the show, apparently he had a couple more themes and characters he wanted to explore and had some ideas for how to do it, but is still overall happy with how the show ended and happy that netflix gave him a long enough heads up so he can wrap the show as best as he could
I definitely think it needed one or two more seasons. Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy with the ending we got. But I feel that they really needed time to explore Bojack's tenure at the college, trying to be a better person and his attempts to develop a relationship with Hollyhock. That way we would have some time to really watch him grow and improve and maybe feel like he's truly heading for a better life; only for everything to come crashing down again one last time. Hollyhock's discovery of his past causing all the ground they made as siblings to shatter and fall away before his eyes, the reporters in the background digging up dirt in his past to drag him back to the reality that he never had to truly face up to some of the *massive* mistakes he'd made. It all would've hit so much harder if we'd had a full season to see his successes in moving on, and the steps he made towards recovery.
Like I said, I'm completely content with the ending we got, but there was a lot of wasted potential. And while I'm glad Netflix kept to their word and warned the team ahead of time so they could craft a proper ending before the cancellation, I'm still kinda pissed that Netflix lacked the foresight to let Raphael complete the story as he wanted to. Ratings were still incredible, and audiences definitely wanted more, so there's really no excuse for cutting it short just when we were getting to the climax of Bojack's arc.
Just listening makes me appreciate the intelligent people and care that this show was made with
I love the way he mentions and highlights the way his crew and writers have helped create the show and make it so amazing. I wish Benioff and Weiss had been smart enough and humble enough to build a strong writers room for GoT. No matter how strong your creative vision is you always need help by others - especially in series spanning several seasons.
This show deserves all the Emmys
Diane always reminded me of this girl ive had a similar situation with, so The fact that nothing ever happened between her and bojack and they probably had to cut eachother off, hurt even more
The one dislike is Beatrice.
Well, it's no Ibsen after all.
The six dislikes are from
Neal McBeal
Mr. Aplenty
Diane's mother
Seahorse baby (thumbs have other meanings under water right?)
Katrina
American Singer Songwriter Beyonce
Of all the guest stars, Felicity “Booty Beauty Judge” Huffman was the last one I expected to be incarcerated irl.
That comment near the end about the show articulating experiences that are otherwise difficult to express is so true. It's what made the show so powerful and cathartic to me. I see parts of myself in the characters that I knew were there but couldn't really pinpoint. It helped me feel more normal, like these parts of myself I'd never seen addressed anywhere else before are valid and human. I have struggled with the same tendencies to self-destruct, binge, procrastinate as these characters for most of my life and always felt ashamed of it. For years I wondered what was wrong with me and if anyone else ever experienced these things. Now a clear illustration exists I can point to, that I can use as a frame of reference in my constant marathon to keep on living and become better. The show has definitely helped me and so many other people and is a testament to the power of art to illuminate new facets of the human experience.
I watched That’s Too Much, Man! With my dad and he said ‘they would both be dead with that amount of drugs.
Me: um...
He’s a horse lol
i am pretty sure that is the joke lmao
Victor Tello yep. I said that and then when Sarah Lynn died he was like ‘oh. Ok. This show is actually good then.’ 😂😂
this show really provides the viewer with a very rich and useful vocabulary for expressing very emotionally complex situations. that, to me, is an invaluable service and i am not surprised that it has helped many people recognize and talk about their problems.
I would compare the series finale to _The Graduate_ . It's neither happy nor sad, it's just...it is what it is.
Ryan Hartwell the great part about that is that it’s so real that the fact that it isn’t sad is hopeful. It shows that there’s a chance that it doesn’t have to be sad.
First thing I thought of was The Graduate when I saw the final scene.
Yup inspired by that classic
The view from half way down was hands down the best episode to come out of this show, but it couldn’t have been possible with all the “good damage” from the show
Bojack Horseman is over, and everything is worse now.
Everything is horse now
floppy loppy It was good. But I was just like sad with the ending. I know it wouldn’t go with the shows theme but I was hoping it could end on a happier note.
Nooooo. No. Bojack Horseman is over, and everything might just be okay.
At least you can still watch it. It’s not that bad
There’s just two parts to this? It feels like he was cut off? There’s still so much he hasn’t talked about!
Bojack Horseman is by far the best visual media I have ever consumed
It’s not if Bojack deserves forgiveness, it’s whether he could forgive himself
I like RBW's comment about being worthy of grace but not owed it. No one exactly deserves forgiveness, its not something you are entitled too, but it is absolutely necessary for moving forward, and by fighting to change you can perhaps be worthy of it. It makes me think...
@@ElvishShellfish No it isn't. What you just said is it's the responsibility of the person wronged to assist the person who wronged them in moving forward. And it isn't. It never was and never will be.
The person who committed harm is owed absolutely nothing and if they try to apologize and receive no forgiveness then that's just the way it is. What they need to do is continue taking responsibility for the reality of their actions, accept it and move on.
@@bleh329 I uhh... said that we are not entitled to nor owed forgiveness. I agree with you on that point. I think there's something about being human that makes us potentially worthy of forgiveness almost inherently... I dunno, that kind of contradicts what I said earlier. I need to think for myself what the difference is between being worthy of forgiveness and being entitled to it. Like I said, this makes me think.
Maybe I was sloppy in saying we absolutely need forgiveness to move forward. Absolutely if you want to actually continue to have a relationship with someone after they hurt you, you would need to forgive them, and they would need to own their actions and "turn themselves around" and make the effort to grow. If the relationship doesn't or can't continue, I suppose both parties can go on living life without forgiveness. However, I think for the healing process to complete (as much as possible-hurt may always be there), the hurt person would need to forgive the perpetrator, and the perpetrator would need to forgive himself. Sometimes this is impossible, and there is just a gaping wound left in that part of someone's life, and that's just the way it is.
Tbh I don't think he ever truly could for what he's done and what he's caused. At least at the end he genuinely feels bad and tries to change for what he's done. It's really strange because you can't help but root for him in a weird way. I think maybe he is a better person towards the end of it. All he can do now is just move forward really and try to be a decent person. Hell that's how good the writing is in this show. Because when people make mistakes whether it be minor or terrible that's all we can really do and if needed in some instances try to right wrongs that have been done.
@Fiona Cha
I think that's a really profound statement!
It makes me think of all the times I've been miserable or happy, the state of my mind literally could sometimes define that, as opposed to my circumstances.
We can not control most of how people chose to think of us, we can only forgive and chose to treat ourselves well.
Maybe a big lesson for Bojack was to stop running after the Hollywoo (d) machine to fix his brokenness.
"Fish out of Water" is phenomenal - emotional, artistic, heartwarming, and funny.
Damn, seeing all these people claiming all the things that I feel is sure comforting to me. It was a show that I whatched since the second season and it was so impactful.
I was able to get out of a two way toxic relationship, exchange my major to one that would make me happy and the show helped me cope with my depression episodes. Even though I felt even worse than when I was depressed sometimes.
It is such an amazing show and I will miss it so much. It feels like I've lost friends of mine. But I think that's what makes Bojack special. If you like, you love it and it makes you forever marked by it.
I finished watching It last night, i'm so thankful to everyone that contribuited to create bojack horseman, It's one of the best series ever, to me one with the best dialogues, i've appreciated every second of It, thank YOU so much
So many mind-blowing episodes.. This man is a genius and this show is in the top-10 greatest of all times, animated or live, along with The Sopranos, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, etc
His last point about the show articulating things you've felt but have never properly been able to explain is so true. For me, I think the biggest one was Diane's "Good Damage" monologue and her conversation with PB at the end. So poignant for me personally.
Love the show, immensely sad to see it go, but happy that it ended so beautifully.
Bojack Horseman has created masterpieces like Free Churro or The view from halfway down, but in my heart Time's Arrow will always be first place.
best show EVER
I could never fully state how much this show has helped and formed me. It helped me survive the trickiest time in my life and was one of the deciding factors that made me get therapy and eventually overcome my suicidal mindset. It's taught me so many lessons that might've saved my life at some points and given me a healthy perspective on life and making it through my teens. I can't imagine what I'd be like now without it. Whenever I'm in a rough state for a while I return to the show and it always helps. I believe every kid my age when ready should watch this undeniable masterpiece. Thank you Waksberg, what you've made is truly incredible.
this guy was genius, truly
This oral history about Bojack is such a good series about the series Bojack. Bojack is such a beautiful, heart breaking, funny, depressing, heartwarming show. I cant think of a show that is as good as this one. I will miss it, I'm glad to have watched it. Thanks for these webisodes that talks a little bit about it.
Anyone else think he looks a bit like Herb?
I don't think we're all deserving of forgiveness. Even if a person works to make themselves better, makes that effort, and actually manages to change, the people they've harmed along the way owe them nothing. And, pending the type of harm, asking someone for forgiveness is asking a lot. And might even risk opening wounds they'd managed to leave behind. It's putting a responsibility on their shoulders on behalf of the person who put a lot on their shoulders in the first place. They now have to carry around this harm, possibly for the rest of their lives. The person who's done wrong has already given them enough responsibility in this way.
Either way, forgiveness is a religious concept that's trickled down into the version of it we have today. People act as if forgiveness is essential. They'll argue the value of it to the person harmed, both to their benefit and even the benefit to the person who committed the harm. But for the reasons mentioned above, I think doing so is largely inconsiderate and irresponsible.
This show helped me to better understand myself, others, and my relationship to them. Thank you
I am so grateful that this mastermind and his entire crew exists. Really RBW and the writers have done an amazing job and i will be forever looking up to this show as one of the biggest and most enlightening experiences ever.
Much love
Everyone, watch Undone. An amazing show and you can clearly see that it comes from this man's mind.
Initially, (1) I couldn't stomach the idea of watching yet another animated show for adults and (2) the main character is a "Horse/Man"?!! Due to the Stay @ Home order, I decided to binge watch all of the episodes. I am so mad at myself for not being more open-minded and willing to watch the show back in 2016. I instantly fell in love with the show. I am disappointed and unwilling to accept that there will be no more BJH episodes. "I'm A Grown A@# Todd", has to be my favorite line.
"Escape from L.A." will always be a personal favorite and was also a pivotal episode IMO.
every time i hear that clip of bojack saying “right sarah lynn? ...sarah lynn?” on the second “sarah lynn” my heart drops
Wow, Bob-Waksberg is an excellent speaker and really gave color to the creation of BH. Great video!
It's interesting that he mentions "Say Anything" as the first big turning point of the series.
To me, Princess Carolyn was always the "heart" of the series.
She dumps Bojack in the very first episode, continues being his agent and goes on to both care for him and call him out on his behaviour during the series.
She's also one of the most grounded characters in the series.
In "Brrap Brrap Pew Pew" (one of the most female-centric episodes where Bojack almost seem like a goofy side-character), she even gets to put Diane in her place.
She's also the main reason the series doesn't end with a total anti-climax, as she get the most heart-warming ending of all characters in the last season.
One of my all time favourite shows. Loved how they ended it too. Just great.👍
˝the fish out of water˝ got me super confused but towards the end it rly made me cry...SO AMAZING and thoughtful.
Raphael and his writing team are geniuses. I hope they have long successful careers
1:30 I love that ending... 'Thanks, phone' beautifully performed line
One of the best series of all time!
The way the writers can express such a serious topic in a digestible format takes genius
I love fish out of water and free churro. the view from halfway down though...
God, this show deserved more seasons, my sadness ain't gonna cure itself! Lol
And I'll never forgive Netflix for it
I wish i could show the makers of this masterpiece that Ive thought so much about this show, how its incredible on all the levels and I appreciate this show so much, it is en will always be in my heart
Thank you for creating that legacy 👏🏻♥️
it makes sm sense why i love undone
"Fish out of the water" was my favorite especially the visuals
I was hoping he was going to talk more about That’s too much man!
Damn I was hoping they’d talk about the second last episode of season 6
The view from halfway down
Hope he makes more shows
'I want that damage to linger'
Chicken for Days Episode 🤣🤣 so good
the "fish out of water" reminded me so much of nu pogodi, it felt like im stuck in my childhood
@02:29 "The form should always match the function". Cut to: Raphael's tie scarf.
Lol a Will Arnett Reese’s commercial played before this!
Wait, Weird Al is Captain Peanutbutter?
I either totally missed or totally forget that! :O
And it is a totally serious role. He doesn't even tell a joke. The mind boggles!
Best episodes are fish out of water and times arrow
Oh my god, Time's Arrow is a beast of an episode. I love the scribble on the mom's face it's so abstract.
Fish out of water is one of my least favorite episodes, but times arrow is probably my nr 1, although the view from halfway down might have taken that spot.
Times Arrow was my number 1. Then it was Free Churro. Now it’s The View from Half Way Down. I guess all in all those are my three favorite episodes and the order doesn’t really matter.
Half way down takes the cake
Love those
I am mourning the loss of this show like the loss of a family member
And eureka
I'm the man who has the cheese I'm the man who got the jerky put em both together and man they really worky cheese jerky
Say what
this took me back a solid thirteen years
BoJack Horseman is over and everything is worse now.
everybody is talking about how this show opened a new gate for animation or created a new age in comments, but i dont agree with that. bojack horseman is such a precious show and i dont think there will be any show that will go in it's way and reach it's story-telling. im not saying "omg its at the top!!!best thing that human kind can ever create!!", its just has this uncomparable atmosphere with the jokes, characters, artstyle etc. its such a unique story to tell in such a... unique way. there is no other and i dont think there will be an other similar.
I love the underwater episode
I miss this show so much and I hope he’s working on something new
Did he model flip after his own style because they’re wearing the same thing pretty much
0:03 the subtitles say "[Diane]" and it pisses me off..
I LOVE HIM!!!!!!! I WANT TO GIVE HIM A HUG SO BAd!
why did the land mammals wear breathing bowls under water but the fish & sea mammals not wear water bowls on land
13:05 Freaking A was he right. I had a similar experience with a person that Herb and Bojack had, I was Herb and this guy was Bojack. We kinda were friends but not really, by high school, he was my bully and tormented me, causing me to develop PTSD as a result. He was a horrible guy and this show taught me forgiveness is not owed to anyone and its okay not to forgive so long as it doesn't consume you. And to this, I proudly say I will never forgive this person for all the horrible things he's done to me.
It's funny to imagine the director of the underwater episode going through a factory with a timer and a baby