@@proxjayant this is a unfathomably statement that makes no sense. You don't even know what you're asking because you're questions don't make sense lol . Movie Kangs in multiverse. one more badass then them all. he was exiled by his variants. he wants to kill them and rul multiverse. he who remains is dead loki killed him. lol it cant be any simpler then that. where's the kang we defeated at the end movie. no one knows you have to wait till next movie.
When he was going through the "did we actually beat kang" in the restaurant I was waiting for kang to be one of the waiters or other patrons or something
@@jayw3512 from the videos from new age rockstars too. When Scott is walking down the street and sees the couples twice. And everyone dressed in green and purple. The ant man mural art on the wall with with a heart around it signifying he’s “dead”. Looks to seem Kang affected Scott at the end for sure.
@jayw3512 yeah but then so.ething big must happen cause if kang is in new York or somewhere in America then kang would do something but us not nowing cause for now he's not going to appear in any films
If you’re introducing a line where the hero says “I don’t have to win, we both just have to lose” then he needs to also actually lose. He didn’t have to die himself but he should’ve lost something. Since Hope clearly went for the sacrifice play when she jumped back to save Scott she would’ve fit the bill nicely. If she died then Janet would also have had to face real consequences for what she did.
If he lost and was stuck in the quantum realm, scot would lose so much more time with his daughter. This is why I liked the ending. The poor guy finally gets to see his family.
Yes! Yes! Yes! If at least one member of the Ant-Family died (particularly Scott or Hope), it would be dramatically unsettling and it would really give this movie STAKES, which it lacks tremendously.
At first I thought it was weird that Scott was walking around like a champ, having beaten Kang. Then he started realizing he might have messed up, I realized Scott hadn't won. Kang is probably shrunken down and regrouping with a bunch of probability versions of himself and working his way up an ant hill of Kangs.
this is the best theory , maybe that was Kangs plan. He did say he's seen everything so maybe he need antman to beat him and get sucked in to that power cell at the end.
Thing is too kang shrunk down into his own multiverse machine so in theory he may not even need his chair anymore he may be fused with the orb and be able to travel the multiverse at will....but idk
He was telekinetic at first because he has his armor. After the ants destroyed his suit, those powers where not available anymore. That's why he seems to be depowered when fighting Scott and relied purely on brute force.
He is not dead. Is shrunk down with the multiverse traveling machine if anything a theory is now he is fused with the machine and can travel the multiverse without his chair.
True, it was just an introduction to the Kang character and his capabilities. There's still alot in store and this was just the beginning. Scott knows he gonna need help, the similar to Bruce comint to stark and the avengers in Infinity war.
I do wonder if Kang won the psychological war though? Scott ended the movie questioning whether he did defeat him or not. Kang was still on his mind in a less definitive way like with Thanos. Kang is a different kind of villain; he is incredibly smart and manipulative vs purely physical.
So in a way, they both lost after all. Or Kang didn’t even lose yet?! He’s probably not even dead, he looked like he was shrinking like Darren. Only round one, round two or more he definitely will win!
@@fictionverse7292 I will be no surprised if the Council of Kang turns out to be fodder while this Kang return from Probability Storm as Beyonder or Prime Kang aka the strongest Kang of MCU.
Not a great look when the greatest threat has already died once & then seemingly lost to Ant-Man.... When will the fear factor begin? Right now it's not there ...
@@claudewinters2091 i get it, if he would have won it would seem like a much bigger threat, but what i think they want to show is that he is a very different kind of a villain than thanos. He can be beaten without his suit and gadgets but he is more of a psychological threat who simply won't die even after you are able to kill him somehow. If that is not threatening than what is? And we saw that at the ending of this movie in scott's mind.
@@apoorvsingh4459 agree! This kind of villain is scarier-the one you don’t think is a threat, the one who manipulates and uses smarts along with the physical. Kang is more than Thanos in this regard.
Ryan: "The Wasp did nothing in the movie..." Me: "AYFKM?? She did the one thing Scott needed, she believed in him." Scott's universal truth was that he, across all of his variants loved Cassie. Hope's universal truth was that she supported Scott. It was Scott's love for Cassie that made his variants work together, it was Hope's love for Scott that made her variants work together.
The eerie ending just had me waiting for like every waiter in the restaurant or every person Scott walked by to transform into a Kang variant (sorta like a Skrull transformation lol)
There’s no doubt Kang should’ve shown up and the movie cuts. Think about if that happened and his Variants think he died, but he didn’t. I think Marvel missed on that aspect.
I was just so surprised in a bad way that Kang lost to Scott and his team. I really thought the movie would have a more darker tone. The trailer and even the movie had that feeling that someone important was going die and when noone did I was upset. I also thought that Scott and Hope being immediately rescued right after being stuck in the QR was really dumb too. I did like the movie though but it could of been waaaaay better.
To be fair, he'd just been jumped by a hundred over powered high tech ants who destroyed his suit. Even without his "powers", he was a far better combatant than Ant Man. Technically Ant Man didn't win, Janet popped back through the portal and started blasting an already severely injured Kang. They got lucky!!!
It’s not as easy as saying “Scott won.” He might have won the battle, but lost the war if that Kang was the one that could have actually stopped the Kangs we saw at the end of the movie. This seems to be consistent with the idea of free will and destiny that Loki & Sylvie struggled with. It might seem like a win, like Sylvie had against He Who Remains, but with devastating consequences.
I don't think this movie was supposed to stand alone or answer any questions. I think the purpose of it was to introduce Kang and set up what's to come. This may end up being one of the most important movies of this phase.
Spoilers! I'm glad people like it! For me, I feel like it was too convenient that ONLY the ants went through a time dilation field and it was like "type 2" or something civilization and they were able to beat Kang. Also, I feel like nobody got captured in this movie, I felt like I could slap Kang's robot henchman and get away like the characters did frequently. Also Kang sat around the whole movie and had only one action sequence. I feel like he was a missed opportunity.
The ants didn't beat Kang. All they did was tear his suit up. MODOK disabled his force field which is reasonable since he was made from the same type of tech. The ants just carried him away. Henchmen have always been weak.
@@chozengaming8547 still kang coulda killed literally everyone the second he got his drive. He let Janet live multiple times she literally ruined his plans multiple times I don’t know why he kept taking her with him 😂
@@Collect2Disconnect huh? What did you watch? She literally enlarged the core for his chair as soon as it was fixed and fucked off out of there. They were instantly in opposition.
The way he asked him if he had killed him before and the Avengers as if it was nothing, to turn around and lose to AntMan and Wasp was telling and a head scratch moment
Well Kang was lynched by a million man-sized highly technlogical ants beforehand, altough they really shoud have used a scene to say that they got an ugrade to make their second fight more believable, that much is true. Also one should never underestimate sheer number.
Here in India where I watched, we didn't have the iconic line, "Are you an avenger? Have I killed you before?" . Instead we had Kang saying, "I have killed many avengers". Was this a universal thing?
I think the reason why we feel that the magic is disappearing is because phase 4 was not capped off. Before, in the Infinity Saga, each phase was ended with an Avengers movie that tied up the storylines within that phase. Sine phase 4 didn't have an Avengers type movie to tie things up the stories run into each other
I think there's a feeling of diminishing returns right now. There have been, what, 31 movies now, not to mention all of the TV shows. So I think the over-saturation of MCU is causing a lot of apathy and "MCU fatigue" right now.
@@frankyDavalos because you are slow if phase 3 ended with Far from home? And Phase 4 started with Black Widow. When did they fight Thanos? Goof his point is They all ended with a big Averagers movie. 3 Avenger movies with 1 being a 2 part movie 3 phases goofball
We saw a live action Council of Kangs. I keep repeating that to myself a dozen times a day I'm so amazed. And yeah, Majors is a capital A actor, so this should be fantastic to see.
I honestly expected a significant part of this movie to be Kang tempting Scott into helping him by promising to rewrite time so he could spend more time with Cassie growing up. I was surprised to see this barely feature.
When Scott went to the coffee shop at the end of the movie and then had to finally pay for his coffee (and was surprised by it), did anybody else think they went back to the wrong timeline?
That's what I thought or is it a later time in the real world since they were in the quantamn realm for so long (time passes different there than in the real world)
When Matt comes in that was the most indecisive word salad ever. You can tell from the way he is dancing around he didn’t like it but doesn’t want to come across too aggressive after Ryan obviously likes it.
I’d say the best line was his rebuttal to janes line “ you’ll be killing trillions!” And he hit her with the coldest line in the MCU “ I wished that mattered to me “ 🥶🥶
I don't even think he said "to me" Pretty sure the line was just "I wish that mattered" like it doesn't matter at all, to anyone. In the grand scale of time at least.
I thought he was going to hit back with something like. "Trillions? Your view is so small you can't even begin to comprehend the number of beings that would disappear" I feel this would have linked to Thanos's line about being burdened by knowledge.
He is Human too. I think they did a GREAT JOB at that. Because it was a point when Janet said “it’s over” and Kang turns around with TEARS running down his face and said “you know better then anyone.. it’s never over”. We forget that he is human, and is forced to take lives, to possibly save his reality. I loved it. I felt how you did at first… but I am looking at it like it makes more sense once I really saw what they wanted to make. Even when she asked who is Kang?? He said “who I have to be.” I really think we will look back on this movie as a huge arc. They also showed us the ending in Loki. So it’s like a Tarantino movie… you can just show the story in any order.
can anyone tell me that the kang whose got exiled who exiled him kang councils or he who remains and if kang councils did that then the fook he who remains did? he said he killed all his version and only one left so he should be the one who exiled him bcoz that kang come in quantum when janet was trapped and that time timeline or multiverse wasn't broken bcoz he who remains have control and killed his all version then how the fook kang councils become? is after he who remains died or before that so it means he who remains was working with them? all along to open multiverse so confuaing and making no sense.
What I got from this movie is that Kang is the good guy and’s he’s trying to protect his timeline from the council of Kangs. I think he becomes he who remains as well. Making his timeline the secret timeline
I don't think Kang will become he who remains.. But I strongly believe loki thinks he who remains is good and try to find him in loki2 ,like who would become he who remains and help him
I think that not knowing who Kang exactly is and seeing the variants will intrigue some viewers enough to want to learn more. Not everyone needs to be spoon fed everything all at once.
When I was a kid, the experience of sitting down with a comic always left me with more questions than it answered. And it was perfect in this. It’s escapism, and plot holes themselves aren’t always antithetical to escapism (just the one’s resulting from lazy writing). These films achieve what the comics did, and more. Before, until the conventions rolled in there was little in the way of community. Now, the fan community is practically everywhere and the films’ success is tied to this change in our culture. Also, in the earlier phases we were always like “can’t wait until the pallet of character expands and crosses over all the time. Well now it’s happening, and we have a breakdown of the simplicity of the overarching story (ie infinity - to - multiverse sagas). Boo hoo. I love it. We’ve always wanted it. Here it is! Marvel Team-Up from the 70s was so central to the development of the comics stories, and I’m happy to see it happening in the films.
I absolutely loved this film. It's literally what I wanted to see. It's not perfect, but I have seen it 3 times already. I love Marvel but I normally only see a film once in theaters. But whatever it is about this film is bringing me back. Now with that said, of course film is subjective, but some are acting like this film is the worst thing ever made. And I think 80% of it is people who do like it, but the cool thing is to hate. And that is the absolute worst of fandom. Point is, I am hype for phase 5 and where this all leads.
Dude, you are absolutely right about Jonathan Majors. In Loki, I thought he was silly. Then saw Quantamania and how well he became another character and his sadness. It was very clear that I needed to watch the last episode of Loki again and boy. He really gives that character life. I can see all the emotions that I would feel if I had to make decisions. I feel like the critics only consider the movie but don't put the puzzle pieces together of the whole MCU. Nearly everything in the MCU is connected and correlates to another movie. The connections are extremely important.
I feel like the only way it was possible to "beat" kang, was kangs pride, he wanted to take someone with him to witness him win, Janet at first, then Cassie maybe, but then he says to Scott during the end fight scene, and I'm poorly paraphrasing, but he said, "I want you to always remember, you could have left." Instead of just killing them, he gave them too many chances to keep trying to stop him.
Funny you touch on that I forgot to in my rant. In the comics Kangs biggest virtue is his Pride. He is incredibly arrogant but extremely prideful. When the movie played into that it was great. The whole background on Janet and his relationship was amazing. I wish they heavily leaned into that. Everyone has a weakness and pride can be a delicious exploit if exposed correctly. This has been seen many times in the comics. Janet meant a lot to him because she believed in him when his own "variants" casted him out. It seemed as though Kang admired the intelligence of Janet or maybe a deeper connection. Deep down I think he wanted someone adding on to your point to witness his ascension or belief there of.
Maybe it's because I watch every ScreenCrush MCU video, but the magic is not dying for me. I'm even more excited and more involved in the story that's unfolding. I really enjoyed this movie 🤷♀️
One thing i really really did enjoy about the movie is seeing Kang go Darth Vader on everybody using the force to threaten Scott and Cassie if they didn’t do what he wanted
Honestly, if Kang is suppose to be the next Big bad, then they shouldn't have entrusted his debut to an Ant-Man film. Ant-Man just ain't big or popular enough, so they potentially messed up their villain before he even got started!
Big disagree. Ant Man is part of the Avengers and really deserved this because at the end of the day, like or not, he is basically the reason why in that universe everyone is still alive (and, of course, the rat who touch the button KEKW) , the problem is HOW they introduce him. They had blank check to explain how he lost the war against the other kangs, what is the purpose of his annihilation. They showed him like a huge deal, the Bogeyman, just to kill him like nothing.
@@LucasTowers__ literally proving my point, he lost to Ant-Man, who the MCU turned into a joke. How are fans suppose to take this guy seriously as the next big threat, when he lost to the comic-relief of the Avengers!?
Kang was not defeated for everyone saying that. He was shrunk down with the multiverse traveling machine and honestly I feel he may be fused with it now and can travel the multiverse at will.
It doesn’t matter if he isn’t dead, it’s a god awful first impression. We’re supposed to feel this villain is worse than thanos but he gets his ass kicked by ANT MAN (the comic relief in the avengers movies). Compare that to Thanos literally erasing half the universe and beating the soul out of every hero we came to know and love. Doesn’t even come close
@@diegobracho4963 lmao your comparing a weakend kang to a infinity gauntlet wielding thanos? Who's entire movie was about him executing his plan not just an introduction movie so obviously Thanos is going to be a monster. Kang during the flash back when Jannet touched his chair was absolutely murking entire REALITIES without some huge army and with out a single infinity stone. Thanos snapped half a universe that's amazing and all but kang was destroying multiple universes literally destroying them not just snapping half of existence. without any stones kang was opening portals through space and time with out the (space stone) also controlling Scott and Casey body with just a suit and again he wasn't even at full power. Not saying the movie was some cinema breakthrough but people just be trying to hate now a days.
@@juanbaez5036 Even without using the gauntlet, Thanos beat the crap out of Thor and Hulk at the beginning of the movie, then in Endgame, he takes on three Avengers at once with just his sword. And the little flashes we see of Kang from his sphere thingie don’t really show us anything that we compare to Thanos. It showed Kang killing random people
Watch the end again, I think Scott and team were dropped into a different timeline where they were already dead that Kang already is in control of. There is a lot of green in purple all around him as he’s doing his inner monologue AND there is antman graffiti and we all know that’s how they morn and recognize dead hero’s
I thought the sequence in the probability storm was SO clever having all the versions of him work together like the Ants he trained with in the first one And him being able to steal something was the only real reason for Kang and Modok bringing him there which was just like the first one as well… loved the homage and pay-off and All the other problems were forgiven… I loved this movie more than A lot of the other solo marvel movies
Expectation really is the key. I've learned that for me my expectation directly corelates with how much I enjoy a movie. The high the expectation, the more I've found myself to be disappointed. Now my litmus test is simply, "Are you not entertained?!?!" And for me, the answer was unequivocally "yes!"
This movie feel like a lie at whole. The things that it hyped where either not there or simply sucked at end. I mean the loss that antman was supposed to suffer was actually a helmet. Also, next big bad ass Kang is blasted to death by puny Hope. And so many escape cliches in one movie.
I enjoyed it a lot, of course not perfect but over all it was cool. Wish it did use Kang more or give more info about him but I understand they’re saving it for later. Like a 7/10
@Dana White's Cocaine Dealer either that or he figures out a way to absorb the probability field from his device. Imagine if he infuses it with himself and gains the power of time/multiverse travel without the chair
Sounds like your real life hang ups are spilling into the movie. Luckily for you that was a very minor part of the movie, and the only thing you needed to take away from it is help people who need help. Unless that is a problem for you.
@@hethvardhanshah3084 no way home should have been a grand movie like spiderman into spiderverse but it was ok story wise. Without all the cameos movie has nothing.
can anyone tell me that the kang whose got exiled who exiled him kang councils or he who remains and if kang councils did that then the fook he who remains did? he said he killed all his version and only one left so he should be the one who exiled him bcoz that kang come in quantum when janet was trapped and that time timeline or multiverse wasn't broken bcoz he who remains have control and killed his all version then how the fook kang councils become? is after he who remains died or before that so it means he who remains was working with them? all along to open multiverse so confusing and making no sense anyone tell me.
@@proxjayant Think of time as water, multiple states but can be shaped. When the sacred timeline is in shape, then time is in a bottle with lid by the "He Who Remains" which is a multiversal end point. There will always be a He Who Remains at the end to cap it all together. And before that happens the water must be out and open and wild. So when he dies, the water is spilled, and eventually one of him is created and re-establishes a timeline
People are not appreciating straight up just enjoyable pop culture movies and shows. It hurts when people trash movies saying stuff like they don't understand anything at all. like you said, we are indeed living in a great time for pop culture fans.
The multiverse is easy to understand. Every choice leads to a different branch in the time line. Therefore any choice out of character reflects a different personality trait & character tendency. That's why each Kang will react differently.
Love your content as always! :) Offering a different perspective on the finale of the film: I would argue that the perceived "weakness" of Kang being "defeated" by the Wasp at the end actually further _lends_ itself to Kang's threatening nature and the development of his character in the MCU - but in the _long_ term. Those of us deep in the nitty-gritty details are aware of what, who, and the scale of what Kang represents. I like the idea that they are establishing here that even when you _think_ you have beaten Kang, how will our heroes ever know? This is driven further home by the epilogue sequence (which I agree made the whole film for me as well as a great ending). Overall, totally agree it's a mid-tier film but it is also my 2nd favorite Ant Man and I am so happy we are finally officially in new primary villain territory.
That is what i thought too, he is a different kind of threat than thanos. There is no end to him, even if you are able to kill him somehow. It is more of a psychological threat
17:47 dude I genuinely got freaked out at the end when Scott is thinking if he doomed them all. I have bad anxiety as it is and it’s heightened in movie theatres but the drowning out of the music and Scott’s expression and voice over. I almost had lsd/acid flash backs and just felt impending doom looming over when that scene started happening 😂
@@sweepyourspeech8350 haha I left the theatre as soon as the movie was over I looked up the end credit scenes in the car I was genuinely on edge anxiety is a bitch 😅
I think the guests seriously underestimate the public's ability to enjoy the top soil of the plot of Quantumania. Kang very much explained his motivation, who he is and what he's all about. There are many more layers that comic obsessives can appreciate and await, but those things don't need to matter to general audiences.
@@mattosso7676 yeah im one of the few guys who enjoy quite a bit of phase four and quantumania establishes alot of new stuff that im really pumped for. but still, i feel like the mcu needs to end after the multiverse saga. there is literally NOWHERE else to go from the multiverse - which is literally every possible universe and timeline.
@@slimgrim3607 That's the challenge...to continue to make Marvel movies that are fresh and give fans a great experience. They're not going to just quit making movies. So they have to continue to reinvent themselves. Creating the multiverse gives them the ability to do that and still maintain some connections with what they've already established.
Definitely, his background is quite clearly explained in the scene with Janet. He's a conqueror who's is destroying whole worlds and timelines. He was banished by people who he wants revenge against (first post-credit scene clearly shows it was the council that did this). But he is trapped in the quantom realm and needs to escape to continue doing what he was doing. That is his motivation and background described enough for a casual viewer to understand. As a comic geek, you can understand more, but a casual viewer gets plenty of detail to understand what's happening and why
@@zoetrim7400 This sums it up nicely. The movie does everything it can to make you not reliant on Loki too. Kang literally does a condensed version of the speech He Who Remains did, even using similar key visuals. I am fairly certain that people who have not watched Loki or Multiverse of Madness can easily follow this plot.
Well after that deep dive I don't know if there's much I can add but... when it comes up in conversation I tell people to remember that Ant Man has always been one the most grounded and small hero's in the MCU. Now the theme is don't underestimate the little guy since his actions saved so many worlds from Thanos and these are still really fun characters to explore. We're also heading into a new big bad so the movies have to start small and get bigger as we move forward.
He'd still be super mini/microscopic and imperceptible to human size perspective but giant in the beyond microscope world of the quantum realm they were in.
My question is… how on earth were they able to still shrink in the quantum realm if they are (presumably) at the smallest state they can possibly be in (i.e. Planck length)?
Kinda interesting that Scott arguably set forth the series of events that reversed the snap, ending the Infinity Saga, and he also kinda got the ball rolling on the Kang Dynasty. Although Sylvie and Loki maybe deserve that distinction more.
I haven’t seen anyone say this but, with the rumors going around that the Beyonder will be a Kang variant, I think that this version of Kang being sucked into the multiversal engine will be what turns him into the Beyonder. It was my immediate thought with the white light that immediately flashes afterwards.
I agree that Hope didn't have much to do, but I did like how she was constantly calling out Janet. Even though she has become super successful with Pym van Dyne, she is also trying to make up for lost time like Scott has with Cassie. Yeah wasn't a perfect movie, but I thought it was really entertaining.
People are disappointed by the fact that kang was defeated by a surprise attack and ant and wasp team impermanent victory. They forgot that the most terrifying kang thing is that he is everywhere. I'm with Ryan on this one!
this reminded me a lot of the "destroyer of worlds" thing from Stargate SG1. You don't need to know too much about Kang's backstory. you just have to know what they are capable of and that it's now your fault
Just seen it on Disney Plus. It's a visually beautiful film! The story is "Too Much. Too Fast". Feels like they compressed an entire season of a popular TV show into a two hour film. We know we were supposed to root for the Freedom Fighters fight against Kang, but the story moved too fast in a medley of so many other things that we don't get enough time to develop an affection for the Freedom Fighters. The film seems more like a two hour long movie trailer.
I also thought the theme of this movie was going to be Scott feeling bad that he lost so much time with Casie. But the movie isn’t about that at all. One of my biggest issues with the movie is no one even seems threatened by kang. Scott isn’t moved, hank isn’t moved, hope wants to understand why kang is a threat but she can’t, Janet is terrified of him but she literally does not explain the so called grace danger. All these mcu movies set up such big ambitions in the trailer and make you anticipate something threatening and then you watch the movie and it’s just not that serious at all.
Janet saw what Kang did and Kang explained what he did, so you get the gist. But even outside of his Conqueror identity he build an empire in the Quantum Realm on his own and was basically unstoppable until an entire army of Type 2 civilization ants and Modok broke his underpowered suit. The man is just human without his tech, yet he still was a major threat with the scraps he had here. I think the movie maybe failed to convey these limitations enough.
@@yoursonisold8743that’s all “telling”, though. They don’t *show* us enough for him to be a serious villain. And now he’s 0-2. We’ve seen two Kangs, and both were quickly dispatched. Not doing a great job of setting up the new Big Bad Guy.
@@TheChancellor212 Totally wrong. Not only did the movie show him blow up a planet in his rage in the flashbacks Janet saw, they also showed how he build a goddamn empire in the Quantum Realm and made incredibly powerful tech that by far outclasses anything we've seen until now... with scraps. He Who Remains basically comittied suicide through Sylvie. He was untouchable until he allowed her to kill him. So that isn't a loss. And Kang Prime in this movie had the worst odds of any Kang and was depowered on purpose. The movie it trying to give you that uneasy feeling that defeating Kang is never the end and might only make things worse.
I enjoyed it with family in friends. Had about 8 people altogether and we were all pleased afterwards. It's not Engame level..it was Ant-Man and it was better than the first two. It sounds like it's doing well with a $359m take after this past weekend. That's pretty good.
My wife never got into marvel movies. She didn't care about Kang or whatnot. But she somehow really enjoyed this movie. She just enjoyed for what it is.
do you remember when Kang says that the worst thing they could have done was leave him there longer, to prepare? I imagine that was not a throw away line, and that he's now in a probability chamber, and we saw that all of the Scott Langs and wasps could come to an agreement, so what if this Kang the Conqueror, now gets to strategize and train with all of his kang "variants" that also share his resentment of being trapped, echoing that same warning that they shouldn't have given him more time
It should have been an intentional expedition or heist into the quantum realm into kang's micro empire, so that Janet could finally stop him after all these years. Scott's daughter sneaks on board using her suit and it goes wrong from there. Having the ant team come in prepared but still being unable to stop Kang would have been a bit more effective than them stumbling into it and still managing to get out. Also someone should have chosen to stay behind or been trapped at the end.
Going into this movie i had this feeling that it is basically guaranteed to be good because the directors and screenwriters and all that obviously understood the extreme importance of this movie because this is how they set up the entire next phase of marvel and could potentially be a make or break for the rest of the entire MCU. And i think they did what they had to, it was nothing crazy but it’s good enough and that’s all it really has to be.
Let's not forget that this is the beginning of Phase 5. So this movie, while a complete story unto itself, is just the setup for everything else coming after it. I'm curious to see how we view this film after the Phase 6 is complete. It'll be interesting to see how well (or poorly) it set everything up.
@@mattosso7676 we're talking about the movie itself, why would you focus more on the setup when it is the end of the Ant-Man trilogy? Garbage writing. And this writer will also write Avengers Kang Dynasty, Avengers is doomed.
@@renz5960 It has to serve three functions. 1. Be a complete story unto itself. 2. Be the climax of the Ant-Man trilogy. 3. Serve as the setup for the next phase in the MCU. I think it works fine on all 3 levels.
I agree with you on the 'de-powering' of Kang, but yes, they do seem to explain it with his 'gauntlets' being damaged before their last fight. On Kang's 'Defeat': Is merging a person with a power source that connects to the multiverse really a good idea? Could kill him, could end up making him as/more powerful than Scarlet Witch.
I think a whole lot of critics are just tired of Marvel, and the ad campaign DID make it look like a much different movie than it was. Antman has always been a wee bit more humorous than most of the Marvel movies, so maybe a brutal villain like Kang was a little off, tonally, but the humor lands MUCH better in this one than in Love & Thunder. I was entertained / art is subjective. *shrugs*
I do feel the Kang that was "defeated" in the end is one of thousands. I was expecting other Kangs to show up right after he was zapped away, to help demonstrate the complexities of the mutliverse.
There are a lot of missed opportunities. Scott could respond to Cassie's activism by quoting the Sokovia accords; he was on Cap's side, and going to Germany put him in jail and made Hank and Hope to be on the run. Also, the redeemed one could have done it by helping in that ending, maybe he helps (he did it once, maybe with Janet's help could do it backward) and uses that as an escape and that's how Scott and Hope should have been left behind.
There were so many plot holes in this movie that it really sullied the experience for me, and I'm not someone who is easily annoyed by stuff like that. The one that I haven't heard mentioned by anyone yet is that when Kang has his "fine, I'll do it myself" moment near the end, and he starts shooting the townspeople with his blaster, he's quite clearly vaporizing people, but when he starts fighting with the Ant-gang, his blaster simply knocks them a bit backwards. Did he set it to stun? Does he not want to actually kill Ant-Man? Are there horse socks? Is anyone listening to me?
@@captainmartin1219 yep, but this was too obvious, the logic was gone at that time. I know an example is how iron man can take damage logically even with armor but we can hardly think about it because the bad guys don't insta kill the background characters. This one, the rebels didn't even put up a fight against kang even just by a few seconds. Kang beat thor but can't insta kill ants
@@pauljosephresus354 Lol 🤣🤣😆. Dude phase 4 is really bad 😞. O get what your saying. My expectations for this phase are so low that nothing I hear about this films really bothers me because I expect worse going in.
I think Matt is vastly underestimating the people who go to see this. I’m not what you guys call a ‘nerd’, my brother is a massive comic fan and I go see the movies with him - and watch the shows. I watched Loki, I know who Kang is. I’m not ‘lost’ or ‘confused’. I know Kang is the bad guy and I know he’s not dead or defeated. Give us ‘normals’ some credit.
My wife is a 'normal'. But then she didn't watch Loki. Still the point of Marvel movies is to tell a self contained story. And her views mirror many of the criticisms of critics of the film
@@siddestroyer No, it’s not Marvel’s job to make self contained movies. As @issiahsilva says, you’re either along for the ride or you’re not. I am; I very much enjoy Marvel films and I like that they’re embracing larger story arcs. 🙂
I saw it today, enjoyed it quite a bit. I saw Loki and rewatched the last episode before I went in. Majors was totally owning it and nah definitely not dead in my opinion. I hear one guy behind at the end saying to his mate, whoa was that Loki. He had not seen the D+ shows. There are some key moments in the shows for movies going forward. Hopefully they slow down on the shows.
I saw Quantumania with a total non-fan, I don't think she's seen anything in it. SHE LIKED IT! She said it was easy to follow the story and the characters, the setting was gorgeous and the humour and suspense were well balanced. Now she wants to know what happens next.. which might be the Hidden Genius of this opener to the new Phase!
the final episode of loki does the best job of kang explaining who he is and where he impacts the grand scheme of everything I think if someone saw that before they saw Ant-man quantum mania, let's be pretty much up to speed .
I thoroughly enjoyed the movie. Kept seeing the mixed reviews but kept an open mind and I loved it. Yes there are some nitpicks that’s mentioned in the video but overall the funny wasn’t forced and it was a hell of a lot better than thor love and thunder in my book
For those of you being shocked Kang didn’t win.. he needed to lose in order for the kang dynasty to win. He was the kang that would go on to create the TVA and seperate all multiverses into singular timelines. Scott now just let the Kang dynasty free and now they have a bigger problem on their hands. He was the one good kang
Interesting theory but the problem is that Kang the Conqueror doesn’t like the other Kangs and the other Kangs don’t like him hence why they exiled him. Possibly he “intentionally lost” so that The Citadel of Kangs (Kang Dynasty) will fight the Avengers to protect the multiverse, they all lose to the Avengers leaving Kang the Conqueror the last Kang alive.
I think it's simpler than that. Kang, by himself has no powers, he's like Tony Stark or Bruce Wayne. But when he has his suit and it's powered up by the multiverse engine and all that, he's near invincible. I felt like the stakes in this movie were high because when Kang has his suit in and it was powered on and maxed out, you can see that he isn't a force to be reckoned with. However, when they were able to disable his suit he basically became a regular guy, a buff dude with some muscle and fighting skills, but just a regular dude. He doesn't have those blue beams that instantly kill people or can make a impenetrable force field around him.
Ryan: what did you think of Quantumania? Matt: meh Ryan: what about the last 10 MCU movies? Matt: meh Ryan: I heard you got married, how was the wedding? Matt: meh Ryan: I also heard you had a child, that must be life-changing... Matt: meh Ryan: OMG AN ASTEROID WILL HIT EARTH TOMORROW WIPING OUT ALL LIFE! Matt: meh
It seemed like they wanted to draw a parallel to Janet's offer vs Scott's offer but the offer to Scott was never made explicit, they seemed to just change it to murdering Cassie instead
I think that at the end, Scott is trapped in a loop that's not real. I dont think he defeated Kang at all. I think he's stuck in an illusion. That's why things are slightly off.
I'm also baffled by how unfairly Quantumania is being rated by the critics. To me, Quantumania is way better than Thor 2 & 4, Eternals, Iron Man 2 & 3, Guardian 2, Incredible Hulk, and most of all DCEU films.
I'm getting the same feeling from the MCU as I got from WWE when I stepped away from it a few years ago after watching it non-stop for about 10 years; there's only so many stories within this universe and they all end up with fights as the resolution. And you can tell from a mile away how they're building up a new star or a new team or faction or a new Big Bad because we really have seen it all before. independent
I don't believe Kang was using telekinesis, it was his tech. The gloves light up when he makes hand gestures to control Scott and Cassie. Looks like telekinesis though.
I really enjoyed it! Saw it in imax and it was very good. Not the best ever but it was definitely worth it and opens the door to so much more! MUCH better than Multiverse of Madness
The audience rating is 84%. That's much more indicative of what people REALLY think. I enjoyed it. I's a good first film and sets up the new "Avengers event film" down the road. It was on par with the other Ant-Man movies. So I have no major complaints. The low RT rating is just the "critics" rating. I place ZERO credence in critics' opinions. Most "critic" review are nothing more than clickbait. There used to be professional critics working in media. Now any hater can create a blog, vlog, youtube channel or use any other social media platform just troll and spout hateful reviews (prioritizing their own personal, political rhetoric. But that's a different, much bigger topic).
Love your channel... 0:47 re: audience score: Yes, the review "bombing" by angry nerds is real... BOTH WAYS. People who genuinely don't like the film and want to be heard about the legitimacy of a bad film. BUT ALSO, how access media and apologist, shills, and anyone who just consumes all things Marvel and rarely want to be truthful about their stand on something that sucks. See, many attribute to review mobs as negative, influencing the bad swell of reviews. Same can happen when mobs want to post only positive stuff to keep scores VERY HIGH and influence inn that manner. It goes both ways. And I'm more afraid of those bots, access media and anyone with "a voice" that has nothing more than positive to say because they want content supported, want to keep relationships with those that feed them content, or an opportunity to earn etc. Just saying, keep it real... it works both ways.
Didn’t expect so much love for the movie. I came out of the movie really sad and angry. The humor was so bad compared to the first 2 movies and it felt like dialogues and characters were really bad written (like the new marvel series). I have hope for guardians, but the seriousness and quality of marvel drops hard.
Quantumania is like an episode of your favorite TV show, not necessarily as good as other episodes, but you need it to understand the season finale. I think a lot of us (including me) would've overlooked a lot of the movie's problems if it was the first movie in Phase 4, mainly because now the MCU has so many flops, we know what a good, bad and mediocre Marvel movies look like... and for me, this episode sits a little over the middle and I 100% agree with critic scores on it. It could've been better, but it wasn't.
Imo the biggest problems were the script and MODOK’s character. The dialogue between Cassie and MODOK in the scene about “not being a dick” perfectly encapsulates both issues.
I had a huge problem with it as well. Of the scenes that they cut, this one remained?! Also, although I understand the need for Cassie growing into her character as a potential future superhero was important, her abilities in the movie made her seem far more accomplished in handling situations then she should have been in a place that she HAD NEVER been. It demoted the movie to the range of Lava Boy and Shark Girl.
The movie was literally stupid, a placeholder that didn't have any stakes especially when characters are joking when the world is ending. Can they just stop with Mary Sue characters in every movie, it's getting boring extremely fast, the people who hated this movie hate Cassie's character the most. Your review can be ignored just like the rotten tomatoes scores you are talking about. You shouldn't review movies, just make insight videos. You liked the Phase 4, need I say more.
What did you think of Quantumania?
I enjoyed it tremendously
It looks pretty meh and very mediocre
personally I really enjoyed the plot, and the jokes didn’t seem all that forced.
I enjoyed it
I liked it quite a lot, and it’s grown on me the more I’ve sat on it.
This whole movie was Janet's fault for not telling them about Kang, but she was REALLY trying to keep Bill Murray a secret from Hank lol
And she still took them all there to see Bill. Still, She should have told them about Kang.
hahahahahaaa
ProsT belongs to the streets
Don't forget Casey she is at fault as well.
@@proxjayant this is a unfathomably statement that makes no sense. You don't even know what you're asking because you're questions don't make sense lol . Movie Kangs in multiverse. one more badass then them all. he was exiled by his variants. he wants to kill them and rul multiverse. he who remains is dead loki killed him. lol it cant be any simpler then that. where's the kang we defeated at the end movie. no one knows you have to wait till next movie.
When he was going through the "did we actually beat kang" in the restaurant I was waiting for kang to be one of the waiters or other patrons or something
Agree. I didn’t like that. That was a big miss. I do think though, something happened to Scott’s timeline and we (they) didn’t show us.
@@jayw3512 from the videos from new age rockstars too. When Scott is walking down the street and sees the couples twice. And everyone dressed in green and purple. The ant man mural art on the wall with with a heart around it signifying he’s “dead”. Looks to seem Kang affected Scott at the end for sure.
Kang is inevitable!!!
@jayw3512 yeah but then so.ething big must happen cause if kang is in new York or somewhere in America then kang would do something but us not nowing cause for now he's not going to appear in any films
If you’re introducing a line where the hero says “I don’t have to win, we both just have to lose” then he needs to also actually lose. He didn’t have to die himself but he should’ve lost something. Since Hope clearly went for the sacrifice play when she jumped back to save Scott she would’ve fit the bill nicely. If she died then Janet would also have had to face real consequences for what she did.
Real consequences for Cassie as well.
yeah I was hoping the wouldn't be able to get back.
If he lost and was stuck in the quantum realm, scot would lose so much more time with his daughter. This is why I liked the ending. The poor guy finally gets to see his family.
He lost. He's just in denial, like a lot of people.
Yes! Yes! Yes!
If at least one member of the Ant-Family died (particularly Scott or Hope), it would be dramatically unsettling and it would really give this movie STAKES, which it lacks tremendously.
I was annoyed Luis wasn't in it. He was the best part about ant man ,and the wasp. Also missed kurt ,and Dave. The trio was great.
I hope T.I.'s character isn't......dead and gone
Yeah I heard Luis' actor is in jail tho
Michael Pena was definitely missed, I was hoping he would get a suit even if it had no powers!
The Russian guy was still in it. He was a sentient blob.
@@davidjackson4326 I understood that reference
At first I thought it was weird that Scott was walking around like a champ, having beaten Kang. Then he started realizing he might have messed up, I realized Scott hadn't won. Kang is probably shrunken down and regrouping with a bunch of probability versions of himself and working his way up an ant hill of Kangs.
this is the best theory , maybe that was Kangs plan. He did say he's seen everything so maybe he need antman to beat him and get sucked in to that power cell at the end.
I see what u did, "ant hill" 😏
Thing is too kang shrunk down into his own multiverse machine so in theory he may not even need his chair anymore he may be fused with the orb and be able to travel the multiverse at will....but idk
Then maybe Scott didn’t win. He actually did lose too after all. (If Kang is really dead, which he isn’t)
This is a terrible theory.. this Kang was clearly the Kang that was meant to create the TVA. Scott killed the only good Kang
He was telekinetic at first because he has his armor.
After the ants destroyed his suit, those powers where not available anymore.
That's why he seems to be depowered when fighting Scott and relied purely on brute force.
I think what they could have done to make him more powerful is having them escape instead of defeating him.
They did do reshoots, I wonder what the original ending was.
@@Lance37a I hear originally he wasn’t going to “die” at the end so presumably he would have been able to escape
He is not dead. Is shrunk down with the multiverse traveling machine if anything a theory is now he is fused with the machine and can travel the multiverse without his chair.
Well he wasn’t supposed to be a super powerful kang, he is a kang who wasn’t at full power
True, it was just an introduction to the Kang character and his capabilities. There's still alot in store and this was just the beginning.
Scott knows he gonna need help, the similar to Bruce comint to stark and the avengers in Infinity war.
I do wonder if Kang won the psychological war though? Scott ended the movie questioning whether he did defeat him or not. Kang was still on his mind in a less definitive way like with Thanos. Kang is a different kind of villain; he is incredibly smart and manipulative vs purely physical.
So in a way, they both lost after all. Or Kang didn’t even lose yet?! He’s probably not even dead, he looked like he was shrinking like Darren. Only round one, round two or more he definitely will win!
@@fictionverse7292 I will be no surprised if the Council of Kang turns out to be fodder while this Kang return from Probability Storm as Beyonder or Prime Kang aka the strongest Kang of MCU.
Not a great look when the greatest threat has already died once & then seemingly lost to Ant-Man.... When will the fear factor begin? Right now it's not there ...
@@claudewinters2091 i get it, if he would have won it would seem like a much bigger threat, but what i think they want to show is that he is a very different kind of a villain than thanos. He can be beaten without his suit and gadgets but he is more of a psychological threat who simply won't die even after you are able to kill him somehow. If that is not threatening than what is? And we saw that at the ending of this movie in scott's mind.
@@apoorvsingh4459 agree! This kind of villain is scarier-the one you don’t think is a threat, the one who manipulates and uses smarts along with the physical. Kang is more than Thanos in this regard.
Ryan: "The Wasp did nothing in the movie..."
Me: "AYFKM?? She did the one thing Scott needed, she believed in him."
Scott's universal truth was that he, across all of his variants loved Cassie. Hope's universal truth was that she supported Scott. It was Scott's love for Cassie that made his variants work together, it was Hope's love for Scott that made her variants work together.
The eerie ending just had me waiting for like every waiter in the restaurant or every person Scott walked by to transform into a Kang variant (sorta like a Skrull transformation lol)
You are not alone
I expecting kang casually passing by scott on the road lol
I was waiting for the same
For some reason I thought he was gonna get a 3rd eye too.... Like why.... And not another one lol....
There’s no doubt Kang should’ve shown up and the movie cuts. Think about if that happened and his Variants think he died, but he didn’t. I think Marvel missed on that aspect.
I was just so surprised in a bad way that Kang lost to Scott and his team. I really thought the movie would have a more darker tone. The trailer and even the movie had that feeling that someone important was going die and when noone did I was upset. I also thought that Scott and Hope being immediately rescued right after being stuck in the QR was really dumb too. I did like the movie though but it could of been waaaaay better.
To be fair, he'd just been jumped by a hundred over powered high tech ants who destroyed his suit. Even without his "powers", he was a far better combatant than Ant Man. Technically Ant Man didn't win, Janet popped back through the portal and started blasting an already severely injured Kang. They got lucky!!!
@@zshakur Pretty sure that was Hope not Janet...
@Shikamaru Nara What’s the difference? Like seriously, who gives a flying fk who these side characters are? Kang should’ve killed them
It’s not as easy as saying “Scott won.” He might have won the battle, but lost the war if that Kang was the one that could have actually stopped the Kangs we saw at the end of the movie. This seems to be consistent with the idea of free will and destiny that Loki & Sylvie struggled with. It might seem like a win, like Sylvie had against He Who Remains, but with devastating consequences.
In an interview Paul Rudd said that the last fight was a lot more violent than what made the final cut. I’d be interested to see the full version.
I don't think this movie was supposed to stand alone or answer any questions. I think the purpose of it was to introduce Kang and set up what's to come. This may end up being one of the most important movies of this phase.
Answer to thumbnail: No!!!
Spoilers!
I'm glad people like it! For me, I feel like it was too convenient that ONLY the ants went through a time dilation field and it was like "type 2" or something civilization and they were able to beat Kang. Also, I feel like nobody got captured in this movie, I felt like I could slap Kang's robot henchman and get away like the characters did frequently. Also Kang sat around the whole movie and had only one action sequence. I feel like he was a missed opportunity.
yes
The ants didn't beat Kang. All they did was tear his suit up. MODOK disabled his force field which is reasonable since he was made from the same type of tech. The ants just carried him away. Henchmen have always been weak.
@@chozengaming8547 still kang coulda killed literally everyone the second he got his drive. He let Janet live multiple times she literally ruined his plans multiple times I don’t know why he kept taking her with him 😂
@@Collect2Disconnect huh? What did you watch? She literally enlarged the core for his chair as soon as it was fixed and fucked off out of there. They were instantly in opposition.
You mean like Thanos sat around for almost 20 movies and ten years real time?
The way he asked him if he had killed him before and the Avengers as if it was nothing, to turn around and lose to AntMan and Wasp was telling and a head scratch moment
slamming and holding Ant-Man right next to the engine after years of resenting Janet for ruining it was insane writing to me
Well Kang was lynched by a million man-sized highly technlogical ants beforehand, altough they really shoud have used a scene to say that they got an ugrade to make their second fight more believable, that much is true.
Also one should never underestimate sheer number.
Here in India where I watched, we didn't have the iconic line, "Are you an avenger? Have I killed you before?"
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Instead we had Kang saying, "I have killed many avengers".
Was this a universal thing?
@@akashvig5007 no he said that to
Dude not to antman, but only to most mundane of antman gadget THE BLASTER of HOPE..
I think the reason why we feel that the magic is disappearing is because phase 4 was not capped off. Before, in the Infinity Saga, each phase was ended with an Avengers movie that tied up the storylines within that phase. Sine phase 4 didn't have an Avengers type movie to tie things up the stories run into each other
I wonder if Multiverse of Madness would've been the capstone movie of phase 4 if certain things didnt happen.
Phase 2 ended with antman
@@ion8531 phase 3 ended with Spider-man far from home. I don’t understand your point.
I think there's a feeling of diminishing returns right now. There have been, what, 31 movies now, not to mention all of the TV shows. So I think the over-saturation of MCU is causing a lot of apathy and "MCU fatigue" right now.
@@frankyDavalos because you are slow if phase 3 ended with Far from home? And Phase 4 started with Black Widow. When did they fight Thanos? Goof his point is They all ended with a big Averagers movie. 3 Avenger movies with 1 being a 2 part movie 3 phases goofball
My favorite part was the council of kangs. I think Jonathan major showed major range with that scene alone.
he was the highlight of the whole movie for sure
We saw a live action Council of Kangs. I keep repeating that to myself a dozen times a day I'm so amazed. And yeah, Majors is a capital A actor, so this should be fantastic to see.
Lmfao
Cause that was the only good thing in the movie
That scene was laughably awful
I honestly expected a significant part of this movie to be Kang tempting Scott into helping him by promising to rewrite time so he could spend more time with Cassie growing up. I was surprised to see this barely feature.
You are not only one the trailer literally showed it
That would have required more thinking and better writing, lmao
@@devilmaycarebutGODdonot you know a movie isn't good when the trailers tell a different story to get you interested
When Scott went to the coffee shop at the end of the movie and then had to finally pay for his coffee (and was surprised by it), did anybody else think they went back to the wrong timeline?
That's what I thought or is it a later time in the real world since they were in the quantamn realm for so long (time passes different there than in the real world)
I thought so too… I wasn’t sure if it was because of that but at the end he spat out food something (maybe it had something to do with it?)…
@@marisolamaya159 it was just a joke that the former boss made the cake and it was bad
The joke was they finally figured out that he wasn’t Spider-Man
No it's because they found out that he isn't Spiderman so they don't care about him the same way anymore
When Matt comes in that was the most indecisive word salad ever. You can tell from the way he is dancing around he didn’t like it but doesn’t want to come across too aggressive after Ryan obviously likes it.
Make him wag. Watch him toss his own salad now, he can’t remain. Listen Matt fence sitter dungo, I’ll remove you.
Agreed, just say it!
Did you just leave a critical review of a critical review
I’d say the best line was his rebuttal to janes line “ you’ll be killing trillions!” And he hit her with the coldest line in the MCU “ I wished that mattered to me “ 🥶🥶
Yes!!! Haha
I don't even think he said "to me"
Pretty sure the line was just "I wish that mattered" like it doesn't matter at all, to anyone. In the grand scale of time at least.
@@a.castillo2190 Yeah! Including that small phrase would change the context completely
I thought he was going to hit back with something like. "Trillions? Your view is so small you can't even begin to comprehend the number of beings that would disappear"
I feel this would have linked to Thanos's line about being burdened by knowledge.
He didn’t say “ to me”
He says “I wish that mattered”
He is Human too. I think they did a GREAT JOB at that. Because it was a point when Janet said “it’s over” and Kang turns around with TEARS running down his face and said “you know better then anyone.. it’s never over”. We forget that he is human, and is forced to take lives, to possibly save his reality. I loved it. I felt how you did at first… but I am looking at it like it makes more sense once I really saw what they wanted to make. Even when she asked who is Kang?? He said “who I have to be.” I really think we will look back on this movie as a huge arc. They also showed us the ending in Loki. So it’s like a Tarantino movie… you can just show the story in any order.
can anyone tell me that the kang whose got exiled who exiled him kang councils or he who remains and if kang councils did that then the fook he who remains did? he said he killed all his version and only one left so he should be the one who exiled him bcoz that kang come in quantum when janet was trapped and that time timeline or multiverse wasn't broken bcoz he who remains have control and killed his all version then how the fook kang councils become? is after he who remains died or before that so it means he who remains was working with them? all along to open multiverse so confuaing and making no sense.
Spoiler alert?
Nothing about this was anything like a tarantino movie!
Was barely an ant man movie.
@@lukecharlton It wasn't Tarantino but this was arguably the most Ant-Man installment to date.
I hate people like you dude, why are you watching a video about a movie you haven’t seen if you don’t want spoilers? Make it make sense
What I got from this movie is that Kang is the good guy and’s he’s trying to protect his timeline from the council of Kangs. I think he becomes he who remains as well. Making his timeline the secret timeline
he's ded. try harder
hes not dead he got transported to another dimension
@@javier.alvarez764 okay mr.Kevin Feige
ThanosWasRight
KangWasRight
I don't think Kang will become he who remains.. But I strongly believe loki thinks he who remains is good and try to find him in loki2 ,like who would become he who remains and help him
I think that not knowing who Kang exactly is and seeing the variants will intrigue some viewers enough to want to learn more. Not everyone needs to be spoon fed everything all at once.
When I was a kid, the experience of sitting down with a comic always left me with more questions than it answered. And it was perfect in this. It’s escapism, and plot holes themselves aren’t always antithetical to escapism (just the one’s resulting from lazy writing).
These films achieve what the comics did, and more. Before, until the conventions rolled in there was little in the way of community. Now, the fan community is practically everywhere and the films’ success is tied to this change in our culture.
Also, in the earlier phases we were always like “can’t wait until the pallet of character expands and crosses over all the time. Well now it’s happening, and we have a breakdown of the simplicity of the overarching story (ie infinity - to - multiverse sagas). Boo hoo. I love it. We’ve always wanted it. Here it is!
Marvel Team-Up from the 70s was so central to the development of the comics stories, and I’m happy to see it happening in the films.
You have my respect.
Amen! 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
It was my favorite marvel movie all time
I absolutely loved this film. It's literally what I wanted to see. It's not perfect, but I have seen it 3 times already. I love Marvel but I normally only see a film once in theaters. But whatever it is about this film is bringing me back. Now with that said, of course film is subjective, but some are acting like this film is the worst thing ever made. And I think 80% of it is people who do like it, but the cool thing is to hate. And that is the absolute worst of fandom.
Point is, I am hype for phase 5 and where this all leads.
Dude, you are absolutely right about Jonathan Majors. In Loki, I thought he was silly. Then saw Quantamania and how well he became another character and his sadness. It was very clear that I needed to watch the last episode of Loki again and boy. He really gives that character life. I can see all the emotions that I would feel if I had to make decisions. I feel like the critics only consider the movie but don't put the puzzle pieces together of the whole MCU. Nearly everything in the MCU is connected and correlates to another movie. The connections are extremely important.
well said! Jonathan Majors is amazing
I appreciate this post 👏🏿👏🏿
I would have enjoyed Kang having a solo origin movie
It can still happen 😎
I feel like the only way it was possible to "beat" kang, was kangs pride, he wanted to take someone with him to witness him win, Janet at first, then Cassie maybe, but then he says to Scott during the end fight scene, and I'm poorly paraphrasing, but he said, "I want you to always remember, you could have left." Instead of just killing them, he gave them too many chances to keep trying to stop him.
Funny you touch on that I forgot to in my rant. In the comics Kangs biggest virtue is his Pride. He is incredibly arrogant but extremely prideful. When the movie played into that it was great. The whole background on Janet and his relationship was amazing. I wish they heavily leaned into that. Everyone has a weakness and pride can be a delicious exploit if exposed correctly. This has been seen many times in the comics. Janet meant a lot to him because she believed in him when his own "variants" casted him out. It seemed as though Kang admired the intelligence of Janet or maybe a deeper connection. Deep down I think he wanted someone adding on to your point to witness his ascension or belief there of.
@@apacolypz11 right. I think that is why he waited patiently to see her reaction after reading his mind threw the ship
@@diceloc441 exactly he really wanted to know what she thought of him but also see his worth. See his purpose. He needed that Bill of approval.
Maybe it's because I watch every ScreenCrush MCU video, but the magic is not dying for me. I'm even more excited and more involved in the story that's unfolding. I really enjoyed this movie 🤷♀️
I agree... I watched it on IMAX 3D and loved it so much. The visuals were stunning.
It’s dead asf
Movie just lost millions of dollars at the box office
One thing i really really did enjoy about the movie is seeing Kang go Darth Vader on everybody using the force to threaten Scott and Cassie if they didn’t do what he wanted
There were a lot of Star Wars moments weren’t there!
@@ShaneHampsheirTV Some of the alien-like creatures also gave me Star Wars vibes!
Honestly, if Kang is suppose to be the next Big bad, then they shouldn't have entrusted his debut to an Ant-Man film. Ant-Man just ain't big or popular enough, so they potentially messed up their villain before he even got started!
Ant man is a absolute point in time they had to start there if you watched Loki tv show stay down it’s gone get better
Big disagree. Ant Man is part of the Avengers and really deserved this because at the end of the day, like or not, he is basically the reason why in that universe everyone is still alive (and, of course, the rat who touch the button KEKW) , the problem is HOW they introduce him. They had blank check to explain how he lost the war against the other kangs, what is the purpose of his annihilation. They showed him like a huge deal, the Bogeyman, just to kill him like nothing.
@@LucasTowers__ literally proving my point, he lost to Ant-Man, who the MCU turned into a joke. How are fans suppose to take this guy seriously as the next big threat, when he lost to the comic-relief of the Avengers!?
Was he telekinetic? or did he control tech? i thought that as more his wheelhouse, being able to control his opponent's technology and whatnot
Kang was not defeated for everyone saying that. He was shrunk down with the multiverse traveling machine and honestly I feel he may be fused with it now and can travel the multiverse at will.
I keep thinking people need to be shown stuff, because to me it's clear he isn't dead
It doesn’t matter if he isn’t dead, it’s a god awful first impression. We’re supposed to feel this villain is worse than thanos but he gets his ass kicked by ANT MAN (the comic relief in the avengers movies).
Compare that to Thanos literally erasing half the universe and beating the soul out of every hero we came to know and love. Doesn’t even come close
Because ppl don't really know marvel like they say they do lmao
@@diegobracho4963 lmao your comparing a weakend kang to a infinity gauntlet wielding thanos? Who's entire movie was about him executing his plan not just an introduction movie so obviously Thanos is going to be a monster. Kang during the flash back when Jannet touched his chair was absolutely murking entire REALITIES without some huge army and with out a single infinity stone. Thanos snapped half a universe that's amazing and all but kang was destroying multiple universes literally destroying them not just snapping half of existence. without any stones kang was opening portals through space and time with out the (space stone) also controlling Scott and Casey body with just a suit and again he wasn't even at full power. Not saying the movie was some cinema breakthrough but people just be trying to hate now a days.
@@juanbaez5036 Even without using the gauntlet, Thanos beat the crap out of Thor and Hulk at the beginning of the movie, then in Endgame, he takes on three Avengers at once with just his sword. And the little flashes we see of Kang from his sphere thingie don’t really show us anything that we compare to Thanos. It showed Kang killing random people
Watch the end again, I think Scott and team were dropped into a different timeline where they were already dead that Kang already is in control of. There is a lot of green in purple all around him as he’s doing his inner monologue AND there is antman graffiti and we all know that’s how they morn and recognize dead hero’s
I thought the sequence in the probability storm was SO clever having all the versions of him work together like the Ants he trained with in the first one And him being able to steal something was the only real reason for Kang and Modok bringing him there which was just like the first one as well… loved the homage and pay-off and All the other problems were forgiven… I loved this movie more than A lot of the other solo marvel movies
This isn’t a solo movie this is a Antman and The Wasp movie brother a
I loved that! I just finished reading Dark Matter, so that was right on topic with where my mind has been at lately.
I loved it, beginning to end. Mainly because I accept what the storytellers want me to see, not what I expect to see.
People with brain spotted
Expectation really is the key. I've learned that for me my expectation directly corelates with how much I enjoy a movie. The high the expectation, the more I've found myself to be disappointed. Now my litmus test is simply, "Are you not entertained?!?!" And for me, the answer was unequivocally "yes!"
Yes they are building up and so just enjoy the ride
@@tamikas9425 Yep. Otherwise why even bother going to the movies.
Yeah it's great that this movie promotes socialism which, as we all know, never killed anyone and is by far the best thing to aim at. GO MARVEL
This movie feel like a lie at whole. The things that it hyped where either not there or simply sucked at end. I mean the loss that antman was supposed to suffer was actually a helmet. Also, next big bad ass Kang is blasted to death by puny Hope. And so many escape cliches in one movie.
I enjoyed it a lot, of course not perfect but over all it was cool. Wish it did use Kang more or give more info about him but I understand they’re saving it for later. Like a 7/10
That Kang will most likely return. The end may have even gave him a power up.
Definitely better than Thor 4 and doctor strange 2 by far
@Dana White's Cocaine Dealer either that or he figures out a way to absorb the probability field from his device. Imagine if he infuses it with himself and gains the power of time/multiverse travel without the chair
7/10 what movie did you watch that a solid 4
@Dana White's Cocaine Dealer Marvel fans are like Zack’s fans
The part that I really liked was when hank brings all the ants and I was like woo that's the og ant man . Kang was fantastic and the world was cool.
Sounds like your real life hang ups are spilling into the movie.
Luckily for you that was a very minor part of the movie, and the only thing you needed to take away from it is help people who need help.
Unless that is a problem for you.
@@SilortheBlade you good man ?
@@SilortheBlade bro what 😂😂 are you good
I was not disappointed by the movie like I did with multiverse of madness. Quantumania was best movie since endgame.
If this crap is the best since endgame then it's really sad.
@@buca9696 then what is the best after endgame tell me?
@@Sam-jf8hj spiderman no way home easily is the best after endgame
@@hethvardhanshah3084 no way home should have been a grand movie like spiderman into spiderverse but it was ok story wise. Without all the cameos movie has nothing.
@@Sam-jf8hj but it did have the cameos
I enjoy the movie alot I just wish that they were some more immediate consequences for a story involving kang.
Me too
Movie was really good!
Jonathan Mayors is insanely talented..
Thor 4 has nothing against this movie
can anyone tell me that the kang whose got exiled who exiled him kang councils or he who remains and if kang councils did that then the fook he who remains did? he said he killed all his version and only one left so he should be the one who exiled him bcoz that kang come in quantum when janet was trapped and that time timeline or multiverse wasn't broken bcoz he who remains have control and killed his all version then how the fook kang councils become? is after he who remains died or before that so it means he who remains was working with them? all along to open multiverse so confusing and making no sense anyone tell me.
@@proxjayant just watch more Screen crush
Thor 4 is an great movie, shut up
@@proxjayant Think of time as water, multiple states but can be shaped. When the sacred timeline is in shape, then time is in a bottle with lid by the "He Who Remains" which is a multiversal end point. There will always be a He Who Remains at the end to cap it all together.
And before that happens the water must be out and open and wild.
So when he dies, the water is spilled, and eventually one of him is created and re-establishes a timeline
People are not appreciating straight up just enjoyable pop culture movies and shows.
It hurts when people trash movies saying stuff like they don't understand anything at all.
like you said, we are indeed living in a great time for pop culture fans.
The multiverse is easy to understand. Every choice leads to a different branch in the time line. Therefore any choice out of character reflects a different personality trait & character tendency. That's why each Kang will react differently.
Love your content as always! :) Offering a different perspective on the finale of the film: I would argue that the perceived "weakness" of Kang being "defeated" by the Wasp at the end actually further _lends_ itself to Kang's threatening nature and the development of his character in the MCU - but in the _long_ term. Those of us deep in the nitty-gritty details are aware of what, who, and the scale of what Kang represents. I like the idea that they are establishing here that even when you _think_ you have beaten Kang, how will our heroes ever know? This is driven further home by the epilogue sequence (which I agree made the whole film for me as well as a great ending). Overall, totally agree it's a mid-tier film but it is also my 2nd favorite Ant Man and I am so happy we are finally officially in new primary villain territory.
That is what i thought too, he is a different kind of threat than thanos. There is no end to him, even if you are able to kill him somehow. It is more of a psychological threat
17:47 dude I genuinely got freaked out at the end when Scott is thinking if he doomed them all. I have bad anxiety as it is and it’s heightened in movie theatres but the drowning out of the music and Scott’s expression and voice over. I almost had lsd/acid flash backs and just felt impending doom looming over when that scene started happening 😂
Yeah I thought he was about to get a 3rd eye for some reason...lol
@@sweepyourspeech8350 haha I left the theatre as soon as the movie was over I looked up the end credit scenes in the car I was genuinely on edge anxiety is a bitch 😅
Like Doctor Strange!!!
Saw it last night, thought it was a fantastic film. Looking forward to the rest of phase 5 and how the council of Kangs plays out.
I think the guests seriously underestimate the public's ability to enjoy the top soil of the plot of Quantumania. Kang very much explained his motivation, who he is and what he's all about. There are many more layers that comic obsessives can appreciate and await, but those things don't need to matter to general audiences.
I thoroughly enjoyed this movie. I think we can't know how well everything was setup until the dust settles after Avengers: Secret Wars.
@@mattosso7676 yeah im one of the few guys who enjoy quite a bit of phase four and quantumania establishes alot of new stuff that im really pumped for. but still, i feel like the mcu needs to end after the multiverse saga. there is literally NOWHERE else to go from the multiverse - which is literally every possible universe and timeline.
@@slimgrim3607 That's the challenge...to continue to make Marvel movies that are fresh and give fans a great experience. They're not going to just quit making movies. So they have to continue to reinvent themselves. Creating the multiverse gives them the ability to do that and still maintain some connections with what they've already established.
Definitely, his background is quite clearly explained in the scene with Janet. He's a conqueror who's is destroying whole worlds and timelines. He was banished by people who he wants revenge against (first post-credit scene clearly shows it was the council that did this). But he is trapped in the quantom realm and needs to escape to continue doing what he was doing. That is his motivation and background described enough for a casual viewer to understand.
As a comic geek, you can understand more, but a casual viewer gets plenty of detail to understand what's happening and why
@@zoetrim7400 This sums it up nicely. The movie does everything it can to make you not reliant on Loki too. Kang literally does a condensed version of the speech He Who Remains did, even using similar key visuals. I am fairly certain that people who have not watched Loki or Multiverse of Madness can easily follow this plot.
Well after that deep dive I don't know if there's much I can add but... when it comes up in conversation I tell people to remember that Ant Man has always been one the most grounded and small hero's in the MCU. Now the theme is don't underestimate the little guy since his actions saved so many worlds from Thanos and these are still really fun characters to explore.
We're also heading into a new big bad so the movies have to start small and get bigger as we move forward.
The question I had was everytime he grows big in this movie was he technically just normal size since he's in the quantum realm?
Quantum realm was vast universe bro
He'd still be super mini/microscopic and imperceptible to human size perspective but giant in the beyond microscope world of the quantum realm they were in.
My question is… how on earth were they able to still shrink in the quantum realm if they are (presumably) at the smallest state they can possibly be in (i.e. Planck length)?
This movie is fun and entertaining. Solid movie. Enjoyed it from start to finish.
Kinda interesting that Scott arguably set forth the series of events that reversed the snap, ending the Infinity Saga, and he also kinda got the ball rolling on the Kang Dynasty. Although Sylvie and Loki maybe deserve that distinction more.
I haven’t seen anyone say this but, with the rumors going around that the Beyonder will be a Kang variant, I think that this version of Kang being sucked into the multiversal engine will be what turns him into the Beyonder. It was my immediate thought with the white light that immediately flashes afterwards.
I agree that Hope didn't have much to do, but I did like how she was constantly calling out Janet. Even though she has become super successful with Pym van Dyne, she is also trying to make up for lost time like Scott has with Cassie. Yeah wasn't a perfect movie, but I thought it was really entertaining.
People are disappointed by the fact that kang was defeated by a surprise attack and ant and wasp team impermanent victory.
They forgot that the most terrifying kang thing is that he is everywhere.
I'm with Ryan on this one!
this reminded me a lot of the "destroyer of worlds" thing from Stargate SG1.
You don't need to know too much about Kang's backstory. you just have to know what they are capable of and that it's now your fault
Just seen it on Disney Plus. It's a visually beautiful film! The story is "Too Much. Too Fast". Feels like they compressed an entire season of a popular TV show into a two hour film. We know we were supposed to root for the Freedom Fighters fight against Kang, but the story moved too fast in a medley of so many other things that we don't get enough time to develop an affection for the Freedom Fighters. The film seems more like a two hour long movie trailer.
I also thought the theme of this movie was going to be Scott feeling bad that he lost so much time with Casie. But the movie isn’t about that at all. One of my biggest issues with the movie is no one even seems threatened by kang. Scott isn’t moved, hank isn’t moved, hope wants to understand why kang is a threat but she can’t, Janet is terrified of him but she literally does not explain the so called grace danger. All these mcu movies set up such big ambitions in the trailer and make you anticipate something threatening and then you watch the movie and it’s just not that serious at all.
Janet saw what Kang did and Kang explained what he did, so you get the gist. But even outside of his Conqueror identity he build an empire in the Quantum Realm on his own and was basically unstoppable until an entire army of Type 2 civilization ants and Modok broke his underpowered suit. The man is just human without his tech, yet he still was a major threat with the scraps he had here.
I think the movie maybe failed to convey these limitations enough.
@@yoursonisold8743that’s all “telling”, though. They don’t *show* us enough for him to be a serious villain.
And now he’s 0-2. We’ve seen two Kangs, and both were quickly dispatched. Not doing a great job of setting up the new Big Bad Guy.
@@TheChancellor212 Totally wrong.
Not only did the movie show him blow up a planet in his rage in the flashbacks Janet saw, they also showed how he build a goddamn empire in the Quantum Realm and made incredibly powerful tech that by far outclasses anything we've seen until now... with scraps.
He Who Remains basically comittied suicide through Sylvie. He was untouchable until he allowed her to kill him. So that isn't a loss. And Kang Prime in this movie had the worst odds of any Kang and was depowered on purpose. The movie it trying to give you that uneasy feeling that defeating Kang is never the end and might only make things worse.
I enjoyed it with family in friends. Had about 8 people altogether and we were all pleased afterwards. It's not Engame level..it was Ant-Man and it was better than the first two. It sounds like it's doing well with a $359m take after this past weekend. That's pretty good.
My wife never got into marvel movies. She didn't care about Kang or whatnot. But she somehow really enjoyed this movie. She just enjoyed for what it is.
do you remember when Kang says that the worst thing they could have done was leave him there longer, to prepare? I imagine that was not a throw away line, and that he's now in a probability chamber, and we saw that all of the Scott Langs and wasps could come to an agreement, so what if this Kang the Conqueror, now gets to strategize and train with all of his kang "variants" that also share his resentment of being trapped, echoing that same warning that they shouldn't have given him more time
I liked it, but it could've been better. The end credits scene was awesome and I can't wait for the future.
It should have been an intentional expedition or heist into the quantum realm into kang's micro empire, so that Janet could finally stop him after all these years. Scott's daughter sneaks on board using her suit and it goes wrong from there. Having the ant team come in prepared but still being unable to stop Kang would have been a bit more effective than them stumbling into it and still managing to get out. Also someone should have chosen to stay behind or been trapped at the end.
Going into this movie i had this feeling that it is basically guaranteed to be good because the directors and screenwriters and all that obviously understood the extreme importance of this movie because this is how they set up the entire next phase of marvel and could potentially be a make or break for the rest of the entire MCU. And i think they did what they had to, it was nothing crazy but it’s good enough and that’s all it really has to be.
Let's not forget that this is the beginning of Phase 5. So this movie, while a complete story unto itself, is just the setup for everything else coming after it. I'm curious to see how we view this film after the Phase 6 is complete. It'll be interesting to see how well (or poorly) it set everything up.
@@mattosso7676 we're talking about the movie itself, why would you focus more on the setup when it is the end of the Ant-Man trilogy? Garbage writing. And this writer will also write Avengers Kang Dynasty, Avengers is doomed.
@@renz5960 It has to serve three functions. 1. Be a complete story unto itself. 2. Be the climax of the Ant-Man trilogy. 3. Serve as the setup for the next phase in the MCU. I think it works fine on all 3 levels.
@@mattosso7676 it doesn't deliver lol, critics, audience and box office tells you that 😂
@@renz5960 Rotten Tomatoes audience score is 83%. So fans clearly enjoyed it.
I agree with you on the 'de-powering' of Kang, but yes, they do seem to explain it with his 'gauntlets' being damaged before their last fight.
On Kang's 'Defeat': Is merging a person with a power source that connects to the multiverse really a good idea? Could kill him, could end up making him as/more powerful than Scarlet Witch.
I think a whole lot of critics are just tired of Marvel, and the ad campaign DID make it look like a much different movie than it was. Antman has always been a wee bit more humorous than most of the Marvel movies, so maybe a brutal villain like Kang was a little off, tonally, but the humor lands MUCH better in this one than in Love & Thunder. I was entertained / art is subjective. *shrugs*
I do feel the Kang that was "defeated" in the end is one of thousands. I was expecting other Kangs to show up right after he was zapped away, to help demonstrate the complexities of the mutliverse.
That wouldn't have made much sense, because this Kang was exiled by the others. The entire point was that he was alone and heavily depowered.
There are a lot of missed opportunities. Scott could respond to Cassie's activism by quoting the Sokovia accords; he was on Cap's side, and going to Germany put him in jail and made Hank and Hope to be on the run. Also, the redeemed one could have done it by helping in that ending, maybe he helps (he did it once, maybe with Janet's help could do it backward) and uses that as an escape and that's how Scott and Hope should have been left behind.
Scott Lang was on Steve Roger’s side in Civil War simply because he admires Captain America. The character is smart, but he isn’t a deep thinker.
The Sokovia Accords have been repealed though
There were so many plot holes in this movie that it really sullied the experience for me, and I'm not someone who is easily annoyed by stuff like that. The one that I haven't heard mentioned by anyone yet is that when Kang has his "fine, I'll do it myself" moment near the end, and he starts shooting the townspeople with his blaster, he's quite clearly vaporizing people, but when he starts fighting with the Ant-gang, his blaster simply knocks them a bit backwards. Did he set it to stun? Does he not want to actually kill Ant-Man? Are there horse socks? Is anyone listening to me?
The fact that the rebels where insta killed by Kang's blasts, but the main protagonist only get a knockback effect like it was a bullet
Extra extra no one read about um
This is honestly my only big gripe with the film.
Bro come one. At this point you should know the main characters automatically use plot armor.
@@captainmartin1219 yep, but this was too obvious, the logic was gone at that time. I know an example is how iron man can take damage logically even with armor but we can hardly think about it because the bad guys don't insta kill the background characters. This one, the rebels didn't even put up a fight against kang even just by a few seconds. Kang beat thor but can't insta kill ants
@@pauljosephresus354
Lol 🤣🤣😆. Dude phase 4 is really bad 😞. O get what your saying. My expectations for this phase are so low that nothing I hear about this films really bothers me because I expect worse going in.
I think Matt is vastly underestimating the people who go to see this. I’m not what you guys call a ‘nerd’, my brother is a massive comic fan and I go see the movies with him - and watch the shows. I watched Loki, I know who Kang is. I’m not ‘lost’ or ‘confused’. I know Kang is the bad guy and I know he’s not dead or defeated. Give us ‘normals’ some credit.
My wife is a 'normal'. But then she didn't watch Loki. Still the point of Marvel movies is to tell a self contained story. And her views mirror many of the criticisms of critics of the film
@@siddestroyer who’s to say it’s Marvels job to tell self contained stories at this point? At this point, you’re either along for the ride or not
@@siddestroyer No, it’s not Marvel’s job to make self contained movies. As @issiahsilva says, you’re either along for the ride or you’re not. I am; I very much enjoy Marvel films and I like that they’re embracing larger story arcs. 🙂
The best line was when Kang yells
GIVE IT TO ME JANET.
The anger in his voice was so excellent.
I saw it today, enjoyed it quite a bit. I saw Loki and rewatched the last episode before I went in. Majors was totally owning it and nah definitely not dead in my opinion. I hear one guy behind at the end saying to his mate, whoa was that Loki. He had not seen the D+ shows. There are some key moments in the shows for movies going forward. Hopefully they slow down on the shows.
I saw Quantumania with a total non-fan, I don't think she's seen anything in it. SHE LIKED IT! She said it was easy to follow the story and the characters, the setting was gorgeous and the humour and suspense were well balanced. Now she wants to know what happens next.. which might be the Hidden Genius of this opener to the new Phase!
the final episode of loki does the best job of kang explaining who he is and where he impacts the grand scheme of everything I think if someone saw that before they saw Ant-man quantum mania, let's be pretty much up to speed .
I thoroughly enjoyed the movie. Kept seeing the mixed reviews but kept an open mind and I loved it. Yes there are some nitpicks that’s mentioned in the video but overall the funny wasn’t forced and it was a hell of a lot better than thor love and thunder in my book
For those of you being shocked Kang didn’t win.. he needed to lose in order for the kang dynasty to win.
He was the kang that would go on to create the TVA and seperate all multiverses into singular timelines.
Scott now just let the Kang dynasty free and now they have a bigger problem on their hands. He was the one good kang
Exactly! They would have been better off letting Kang escape.
Interesting theory but the problem is that Kang the Conqueror doesn’t like the other Kangs and the other Kangs don’t like him hence why they exiled him. Possibly he “intentionally lost” so that The Citadel of Kangs (Kang Dynasty) will fight the Avengers to protect the multiverse, they all lose to the Avengers leaving Kang the Conqueror the last Kang alive.
I think it's simpler than that. Kang, by himself has no powers, he's like Tony Stark or Bruce Wayne. But when he has his suit and it's powered up by the multiverse engine and all that, he's near invincible.
I felt like the stakes in this movie were high because when Kang has his suit in and it was powered on and maxed out, you can see that he isn't a force to be reckoned with. However, when they were able to disable his suit he basically became a regular guy, a buff dude with some muscle and fighting skills, but just a regular dude. He doesn't have those blue beams that instantly kill people or can make a impenetrable force field around him.
Ryan: what did you think of Quantumania?
Matt: meh
Ryan: what about the last 10 MCU movies?
Matt: meh
Ryan: I heard you got married, how was the wedding?
Matt: meh
Ryan: I also heard you had a child, that must be life-changing...
Matt: meh
Ryan: OMG AN ASTEROID WILL HIT EARTH TOMORROW WIPING OUT ALL LIFE!
Matt: meh
It seemed like they wanted to draw a parallel to Janet's offer vs Scott's offer but the offer to Scott was never made explicit, they seemed to just change it to murdering Cassie instead
I think that at the end, Scott is trapped in a loop that's not real. I dont think he defeated Kang at all. I think he's stuck in an illusion. That's why things are slightly off.
I'm also baffled by how unfairly Quantumania is being rated by the critics. To me, Quantumania is way better than Thor 2 & 4, Eternals, Iron Man 2 & 3, Guardian 2, Incredible Hulk, and most of all DCEU films.
I'm getting the same feeling from the MCU as I got from WWE when I stepped away from it a few years ago after watching it non-stop for about 10 years; there's only so many stories within this universe and they all end up with fights as the resolution. And you can tell from a mile away how they're building up a new star or a new team or faction or a new Big Bad because we really have seen it all before.
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I don't believe Kang was using telekinesis, it was his tech. The gloves light up when he makes hand gestures to control Scott and Cassie. Looks like telekinesis though.
I really enjoyed it! Saw it in imax and it was very good. Not the best ever but it was definitely worth it and opens the door to so much more! MUCH better than Multiverse of Madness
I did too!
The audience rating is 84%. That's much more indicative of what people REALLY think. I enjoyed it. I's a good first film and sets up the new "Avengers event film" down the road. It was on par with the other Ant-Man movies. So I have no major complaints.
The low RT rating is just the "critics" rating. I place ZERO credence in critics' opinions. Most "critic" review are nothing more than clickbait. There used to be professional critics working in media. Now any hater can create a blog, vlog, youtube channel or use any other social media platform just troll and spout hateful reviews (prioritizing their own personal, political rhetoric. But that's a different, much bigger topic).
This movie was great from beginning to end. Even my kids was quite and focus on it. Usually my kids can't sit still
I liked this one more than the first two. I love when the story takes place away from earth.
Love your channel...
0:47 re: audience score:
Yes, the review "bombing" by angry nerds is real... BOTH WAYS. People who genuinely don't like the film and want to be heard about the legitimacy of a bad film. BUT ALSO, how access media and apologist, shills, and anyone who just consumes all things Marvel and rarely want to be truthful about their stand on something that sucks.
See, many attribute to review mobs as negative, influencing the bad swell of reviews. Same can happen when mobs want to post only positive stuff to keep scores VERY HIGH and influence inn that manner. It goes both ways.
And I'm more afraid of those bots, access media and anyone with "a voice" that has nothing more than positive to say because they want content supported, want to keep relationships with those that feed them content, or an opportunity to earn etc.
Just saying, keep it real... it works both ways.
I enjoyed the movie up until the end. I was really disappointed to see Kang lose to Ants of all things! But up until then, it was pretty good to me
Did you finish the movie? lol the ants didnt get him in the end
@Star Wars With PercyMan they over ran him and destroyed his OP suit, I hated that
Usually, USUALLY, critic score tells me how good the movie is and the user score tells me how enjoyable it is.
Didn’t expect so much love for the movie. I came out of the movie really sad and angry. The humor was so bad compared to the first 2 movies and it felt like dialogues and characters were really bad written (like the new marvel series). I have hope for guardians, but the seriousness and quality of marvel drops hard.
Kang was a really interesting villain. Loved how they added more layers to his character throughout the movie. Phase 5 here we go!
I really enjoyed this movie and that first post credit scene made it all worth it
Quantumania is like an episode of your favorite TV show, not necessarily as good as other episodes, but you need it to understand the season finale.
I think a lot of us (including me) would've overlooked a lot of the movie's problems if it was the first movie in Phase 4, mainly because now the MCU has so many flops, we know what a good, bad and mediocre Marvel movies look like... and for me, this episode sits a little over the middle and I 100% agree with critic scores on it. It could've been better, but it wasn't.
I LOVED THIS MOVIE!!!!!!!! This movie was so freaking hilarious and still stuck to the story
Imo the biggest problems were the script and MODOK’s character.
The dialogue between Cassie and MODOK in the scene about “not being a dick” perfectly encapsulates both issues.
My EXACT only problem with the movie
I had a huge problem with it as well. Of the scenes that they cut, this one remained?! Also, although I understand the need for Cassie growing into her character as a potential future superhero was important, her abilities in the movie made her seem far more accomplished in handling situations then she should have been in a place that she HAD NEVER been. It demoted the movie to the range of Lava Boy and Shark Girl.
The movie was literally stupid, a placeholder that didn't have any stakes especially when characters are joking when the world is ending.
Can they just stop with Mary Sue characters in every movie, it's getting boring extremely fast, the people who hated this movie hate Cassie's character the most.
Your review can be ignored just like the rotten tomatoes scores you are talking about. You shouldn't review movies, just make insight videos.
You liked the Phase 4, need I say more.
I really enjoyed the movie. I can see Scott becoming the "adult in the room" for the Young Avengers. Talk about the blind leading the blind!