MADAME WEB is the End of All Things - Movie Review & Sony's Spider-Man Plan, EXPLAINED!

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  • Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
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  • @ScreenCrush
    @ScreenCrush  7 місяців тому +78

    This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/screencrush and get on your way to being your best self.

    • @JEMurl
      @JEMurl 7 місяців тому +2

      Zing!

    • @rocko7711
      @rocko7711 7 місяців тому +2

      🥰😍🤩😘

    • @LordGavial1138
      @LordGavial1138 7 місяців тому +1

      So if Ben is the Uncle
      Does That mean we assisted in the baby shower of future Peter Parker??

    • @tonypayne7371
      @tonypayne7371 7 місяців тому +1

      y wasn't maddam web🤮shelved4 tax purposes nstead of being released like"warn a brother" did4 BatGirl🤷‍♂️

    • @JayC_x
      @JayC_x 7 місяців тому +3

      I think i'll see it. I loved Troll 2, the entire highlander series and evil dead 1.

  • @lorneboucher6046
    @lorneboucher6046 7 місяців тому +516

    Best comment I read was “this makes morbius look like the dark knight.” I died 😂

    • @rl9064
      @rl9064 7 місяців тому +12

      DAMN😂

    • @joshsmith6043
      @joshsmith6043 7 місяців тому +8

      Ouch!!!

    • @SnorlaxChilling
      @SnorlaxChilling 7 місяців тому +3

      I was just wondering how this stands up to Morbius. That says a lot

    • @dr.braxygilkeycruises1460
      @dr.braxygilkeycruises1460 7 місяців тому +3

      That was such a cold statement, I now have frostbite! DANG. That hurts. 🤣😂😅

    • @kevinmutai87
      @kevinmutai87 7 місяців тому

      Puahahaha

  • @jdiggitty
    @jdiggitty 7 місяців тому +1816

    She literally fired her management company for not telling her it wasn't Disney Marvel.

    • @sylviatamieanan4088
      @sylviatamieanan4088 7 місяців тому +277

      She works in this industry and didn't know that?!

    • @_TheViewer_
      @_TheViewer_ 7 місяців тому +186

      @@sylviatamieanan4088honestly, this is true, she could’ve looked it up or checked on UA-cam what’s the word of mouth 😂

    • @RajBauer
      @RajBauer 7 місяців тому +194

      Its her fault for literally not understanding the industry

    • @chucklebutt4470
      @chucklebutt4470 7 місяців тому +45

      lmao that's amazing

    • @fredbyoutubing
      @fredbyoutubing 7 місяців тому +315

      ​@@_TheViewer_she pays then to do that. Of course she should check herself but she trusted them to do their job.

  • @The_Infamous_Boogyman
    @The_Infamous_Boogyman 7 місяців тому +495

    Dakota has always, perpetually, "acted" as if she was saying a long drawn out "thank you" speech to a grandma after asking for a dirt bike and getting a teddy bear

    • @sanges99
      @sanges99 7 місяців тому +49

      When he made that crack about her line reads seeming as if she's been forced to act in a church play I was immediately thinking, "but that's literally always how she 'acts' in *anything* she's in"

    • @SpiderDan2099
      @SpiderDan2099 7 місяців тому +14

      I have thankfully never seen her in anything else and I hope I never do!

    • @Chad0023
      @Chad0023 7 місяців тому +13

      True , she probably never got over 50 shades

    • @edoboleyn
      @edoboleyn 7 місяців тому +8

      @@Chad0023 That would traumatize anyone.

    • @nicholasfactor
      @nicholasfactor 7 місяців тому +1

      it could have worked but the writing omg

  • @samblackwell8308
    @samblackwell8308 7 місяців тому +109

    Dude.. when they showed her in a wheelchair at the end, I lost it 😂

    • @clauaome25
      @clauaome25 7 місяців тому +5

      Yeah how did that happen??

    • @danielle.spence-tidd6967
      @danielle.spence-tidd6967 7 місяців тому +16

      I was thinking when she was thrown across the metal scaffolding and fell that she injured her back, so she's now paralyzed from her waist down.

    • @roodick85
      @roodick85 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@danielle.spence-tidd6967 Lol most likely...😅

    • @emsantos0283
      @emsantos0283 7 місяців тому +7

      Stop! Are you serious? I'm never watching the movie but damn they did Dakota and the other ladies in this movie so wrong. This is not the actors fault. Studio is completely to blame.

    • @davidsavage5630
      @davidsavage5630 7 місяців тому +3

      Was she bald too?? Professor XX lol

  • @Snoodlehootberry
    @Snoodlehootberry 7 місяців тому +117

    The 2008, Incredible Hulk really credited the viewers with knowing that the origin story of the Hulk was so well known and stuffed it all in the opening credits. That’s how you do an origin story.

    • @JaneAxon123
      @JaneAxon123 7 місяців тому +11

      That makes no sense as people didn't know this character like they do the hulk, so you are contradicting your own logic. Captain America is how you do an origin story. Also most people know the batman origin but Batman Begins fleshed it out more and made it great. Whichever way you do it, just make it good lol.

    • @Snoodlehootberry
      @Snoodlehootberry 7 місяців тому +6

      @@JaneAxon123
      Simply an example of how well it was done. With a bit of thought, and origin story can be told very compact and structured way is what i mean. Take the opening montage of Pixar’s UP! as a good example.

    • @willdiesel8431
      @willdiesel8431 7 місяців тому

      The studio didn't care about making a positive mark so mucb as they did a unsightly skid mark. With that being said Hulk still hasn't gotten a solo since then and there was no better time then directly after Infinity War.

    • @giannidescalzo2101
      @giannidescalzo2101 7 місяців тому

      ​​@@JaneAxon123so? They don't tell you the origin story of every cop and pilot and lawyer and intern etc etc etc. Or hey, the Guardians of the Galaxy, had you ever heard of them before? People aren't stupid, they can deal with "Oh okay, she's Spider-Woman" and we'd all be just fine.

    • @factualopinion4275
      @factualopinion4275 7 місяців тому +1

      thats how you do an origin story for fantastic 4, superman, the next new spiderman/batman

  • @LtCaveman
    @LtCaveman 7 місяців тому +761

    "Do not give these people your money" - Ryan 2024
    Facts

    • @SpiderDan2099
      @SpiderDan2099 7 місяців тому +5

      😂 Yes this line literally made me laugh more than any attempt at a joke in the movie (if we can call it that) 😅😢 it is too late I already gave em' my money 🤑

    •  7 місяців тому +3

      it's the only way of sending a message

    • @logantrimble006
      @logantrimble006 7 місяців тому +7

      Agreed, Sony's Marvel movies are jokes now. I never want to see another Marvel movie from them ever again. Just give Spider-Man's film rights back to Marvel already.

    • @drewdavidlong6882
      @drewdavidlong6882 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@AbilioCosta no its not because you don't understand how it works. The people to blame for this is the marketing department, because they mislead people just like they mislead people on TASM2 by suggesting that Rhino was in the main movie, instead of a credit stinger. The only reason their is back lash is because expectation . If they had left out them In the suits in the movie, if they didn't put them in suits in the promotional poster. This wouldn't be happening. When I saw the trailer part of me thought this is what would happen just based on the vision
      But if you think money is going to wise studio executives up to the issues you're wrong.
      Because like Ike Perlmutter Sony executives are going to think its because its female heroes, when its not.
      What's frustrating as a movie its actually fine , but because you are expecting to see Julia , Anya and Mattie suit up as heros. It becomes disappointing.

    • @earlr2992
      @earlr2992 7 місяців тому

      Madam web is supposed to be an interdimensional being on the level of the beyonder. This origin seems stupidly and does not even follow the comic book story.

  • @BhocolateBhipBookies_
    @BhocolateBhipBookies_ 7 місяців тому +310

    He was in the Amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders right before she died.

    • @madtitan0825
      @madtitan0825 7 місяців тому +35

      Oh my god same

    • @Terrible0x0Trivium
      @Terrible0x0Trivium 7 місяців тому +37

      And now it's Morbin' Time!

    • @Lux210
      @Lux210 7 місяців тому +30

      An Incursion occurs when the boundary between two universes erodes and they collide, destroying one or both entirely.

    • @resnatachyon
      @resnatachyon 7 місяців тому +8

      Wow... just simply modern Shakespearian Wow.

    • @GaaraFPS
      @GaaraFPS 7 місяців тому +6

      @@Lux210are you really trying to compare these two lines to one another?

  • @Emi_Alvarez
    @Emi_Alvarez 7 місяців тому +440

    Madame Web makes Secret Invasion looks like the The Departed

    • @lillianrogers75
      @lillianrogers75 7 місяців тому +38

      I laughed so hard at your comment that I spit water on my cat accidentally. 😂

    • @Emi_Alvarez
      @Emi_Alvarez 7 місяців тому +26

      @@lillianrogers75 then my work here is done (put jacket in my shoulder)

    • @AtariSavage
      @AtariSavage 7 місяців тому +10

      Oh my God I just had major torso surgery - and did not expect to laugh so hard, and hurt so much
      Damn you

    • @ocularpatdown
      @ocularpatdown 7 місяців тому

      Yikes lol

    • @ocularpatdown
      @ocularpatdown 7 місяців тому

      @@Emi_Alvarez👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🎉

  • @megsam4077
    @megsam4077 6 місяців тому +26

    one of the things that bothered me in this movie was that at the diner one of the people there was reading the daily bugle and the cover said “3 missing girls” - HOW?! they only went missing that day - how would the newspaper of them missing be out only hours later in the SAME day?!

    • @Treblaine
      @Treblaine 5 місяців тому

      They want it set in 2003 but with the live news updates of 2023 without the devices to support it so just try to have a newspaper do the same thing.

    • @oscarcovarrubias5874
      @oscarcovarrubias5874 3 місяці тому

      I said the same thing.

    • @kinggoya8610
      @kinggoya8610 3 місяці тому

      Matte Franklin said she has an uncle name Jonah

  • @DumahAtreides
    @DumahAtreides 7 місяців тому +29

    Street level Tom Holland with DD team up sounds PERFECT

  • @Marvelousgamer7697
    @Marvelousgamer7697 7 місяців тому +752

    Sony is so FOUL for this. I NEED the Live Action Spider-Man rights to go back to Marvel. I can't take these Sony spin-off Spider-Man movies anymore, and neither can the movie industry.

    • @stringer2295
      @stringer2295 7 місяців тому +80

      And it’s worse because it literally feels like they intentionally try to make bad movies

    • @madtitan0825
      @madtitan0825 7 місяців тому +49

      @@stringer2295oh that is without a doubt, they don’t give a shit about quality, they did this cuz of their contract with marvel, as long as they kept shitting out spiderman related movies, they can keep the right to Spiderman, that’s why they pull no effort in these spinoffs

    • @Marvelousgamer7697
      @Marvelousgamer7697 7 місяців тому +34

      @@madtitan0825 this hurts my soul because they're going to continue to make terrible Spider-Man movies just so they can keep the Spider-Man movie rights away from Marvel

    • @madtitan0825
      @madtitan0825 7 місяців тому +34

      @@Marvelousgamer7697 this might be an odd take but as a mcu fan I initially didn’t mind Sony keeping Spiderman right since we got those amazing Spiderverse movies and as long as they have a healthy partnership it’s fine, but at this point Sony is at a level of disrespect that I just can’t fucking accept, they prevent marvel from using some characters like Kraven cuz they wanna make a movie about him, they intentionally fucked up the continuity of Strange’s spell and ruin Vulture’s character within a minute cuz he wanna team up, and a rumor said they want another multiverse movie for Spiderman despite Feige wants it to be more grounded and street level, what in the actual ever living fuck

    • @Bingo_the_Pug
      @Bingo_the_Pug 7 місяців тому +19

      Marvel sold off the rights to Spider-Man, Sony’s NEVER going to give it back. People complaining about “Sony doesn’t know how to handle the character” are the same ones that gave Into the Spider-Verse 5 star reviews, you can’t have it both ways

  • @strangelaw6384
    @strangelaw6384 7 місяців тому +120

    He was in the amazon with my mom, when she was researching spiders, right before she died

  • @illTortuga
    @illTortuga 7 місяців тому +140

    My theater genuinely laughed out loud during the baby shower scene when they were guessing the baby's name and Cassandra said "Oh, my mom actually died during childbirth" and pointed at Mary's pregnant stomach, then proceeded to make it worse by laughing and then trauma dumping 🤣

    • @mzaite
      @mzaite 7 місяців тому +15

      My favorite part was when she said “It’s webin’ time!”

    • @JAHWA710
      @JAHWA710 7 місяців тому +5

      That’s was the point!

  • @thelordofhellaz
    @thelordofhellaz 7 місяців тому +6

    I felt soooo bad for Adam Scott in this movie. He was the best part of this thing and was the best Ben Parker ever put on film.

  • @adamanteumn2981
    @adamanteumn2981 4 місяці тому +2

    Can we talk about how during the firework scene, they had a f****** bottle rocket absolutely LAUNCH a super human across the warehouse?

  • @MusicLover-my6fo
    @MusicLover-my6fo 7 місяців тому +316

    The fact that Dakota Johnson (1) hasn't seen Madame Web, (2) is apparently down to return for a direct sequel, (3) couldn't even name the MCU Spider-Man trilogy films by name, (4) compared this film to AI, and (5) reportedly left her talent agency is al because of this is astonishing.

    • @mzaite
      @mzaite 7 місяців тому +9

      Her dad was the king of make a paycheck. If you never plan on back end, money is money.

    • @guyverGODZILLAheiseiERA
      @guyverGODZILLAheiseiERA 7 місяців тому +30

      meanwhile SYDNEY is actually passionate about her love for the character ....
      and is coming off a blockbuster .....
      yet they go with miss mediocre
      and not someone who actually gives a fuck about her career

    • @Loch1210
      @Loch1210 7 місяців тому +14

      So she fired her management, but will do a sequel?

    • @TheJim42069
      @TheJim42069 7 місяців тому +4

      ​@@Loch1210Yeah that don't make sense to me either.. especially after knowing the movie didn't make any money

    • @eitanweinbaum2276
      @eitanweinbaum2276 7 місяців тому +10

      The AI clip is taken out of context. The joke was that it’s a comic book movie with Sydney Sweeney

  • @jonathanc2679
    @jonathanc2679 7 місяців тому +341

    I would pay large sums of money to be in the theater when Feige watched this.

    • @AmyKaylasVegas
      @AmyKaylasVegas 7 місяців тому +4

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @chrisczech744
      @chrisczech744 7 місяців тому +30

      @@AmyKaylasVegas I want the 117min shia labeouf-esque stream of just Feige watching Madame Web

    • @RFSCaveman
      @RFSCaveman 7 місяців тому +30

      Bold to think he went and saw it

    • @sylviatamieanan4088
      @sylviatamieanan4088 7 місяців тому +15

      ​@@RFSCavemanMaybe if we paid him to watch it

    • @davidsamuelson2089
      @davidsamuelson2089 7 місяців тому +12

      Funny to see Feige watching The Marvels or Ant-Man 3.

  • @MovieMuseOfficial
    @MovieMuseOfficial 7 місяців тому +302

    Crimes against cinema were committed in this atrocity of a film. We appreciate your honest opinion, Ryan.

    • @ocularpatdown
      @ocularpatdown 7 місяців тому +5

      Worse than Morbius?
      Because that one…just…no.

    • @rohithkumar8708
      @rohithkumar8708 7 місяців тому

      apparently..madame web makes morbius look like the dark knight. ​@@ocularpatdown

    • @MovieMuseOfficial
      @MovieMuseOfficial 7 місяців тому +4

      Yes, worse than Morbius.

    • @sonofaBRUH
      @sonofaBRUH 7 місяців тому +3

      @@ocularpatdown I'd say the quality of Madame Web was on par with Morbius. The difference being Morbius was pretty fun to watch because of how easy it was to make fun of. Madame Web on the other hand... that was painful

    • @ismingo4264
      @ismingo4264 7 місяців тому +4

      @@ocularpatdownmobius is a stupid Watch, madame web is a painfull watch

  • @littlereddstar5264
    @littlereddstar5264 7 місяців тому +27

    I would have loved to have seen a version that went something like this: Glenn Close is playing the older Madam Web, who is telling her story to us the viewers. We see her younger version getting her powers etc up until now. But in actuality she’s been showing her memories to the person taking her place because she knows she’s going to die. And at the end we find out her replacement is a freaked out Julia Carpenter (Sydney Sweeney).
    It does feel like Sony is ruining the IP on purpose to stick it to Marvel Disney. It’s like they’re making it that much harder for them to rebuild or use it when or if they get the rights back.

    • @marklittle7976
      @marklittle7976 7 місяців тому +3

      Love this idea ❤

    • @gotmike
      @gotmike 7 місяців тому +1

      Don’t they know that Disney has a canon erasing Death Star?

    • @CaliCowboy805
      @CaliCowboy805 7 місяців тому

      Just like what Fox did over using the Phoenix knowing that, that's one of the awesomes stories in Marvel. Freaking Jerks

    • @danielhenderson3753
      @danielhenderson3753 7 місяців тому

      Ouch, it really does. It would seem that Sony has the upper hand, but why in the world do they want to keep losing money on box office bombs in the process? They must have a some crazy back end deal.

  • @catcherGURL230
    @catcherGURL230 7 місяців тому +3

    My favorite line was at the baby shower when she said, "His name is P-," then the balloon popped, and the scene restarted. Like they can't even say "Peter Parker." 😂

  • @docweidner
    @docweidner 7 місяців тому +228

    Paul from Heavy Spoilers sounded like he needed to use Better Help after reviewing this. Appreciate your honesty on this.

    • @nicholasfactor
      @nicholasfactor 7 місяців тому +4

      I assumed this was one of the videos where they wove the ad in

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 7 місяців тому +2

      I have his video cued up to watch next. Fun times!

  • @matt2027
    @matt2027 7 місяців тому +100

    "Shitamatic Universe" 😂
    I'm sooo stealing that!

  • @jackcasey1400
    @jackcasey1400 7 місяців тому +59

    Nothing will ever beat the first avengers where my hometown sold standing room tickets and the theater was so unbelievably packed and when loki caught Hawkeyes arrow the “woooaahhhss”, and “whatttt!?!?”s were amazing

    • @jaycee8329
      @jaycee8329 7 місяців тому +8

      Where's your hometown? Standing room tickets?

    • @yannickbamona1164
      @yannickbamona1164 7 місяців тому +2

      And then the BOOM in his face 😌 priceless

  • @leomonaghan3933
    @leomonaghan3933 7 місяців тому +3

    The only way to end this is for everyone to just boycott Sony Pictures productions (ALL of them) until they agree to sell the rights to the Spider-Man characters back to Marvel.
    Make the franchise a liability to Sony rather than an asset so that they have really no choice but to get rid of it.

  • @ujamaa4
    @ujamaa4 7 місяців тому +7

    I pretty much turned into that "Friday" meme with Ice Cube and Chris Tucker after that comment at 24:15 LOL

  • @Chad0023
    @Chad0023 7 місяців тому +53

    This is generally the 1st time I've seen Ryan disappointed at reviewing a movie par from Secret Invasion, he's usually a great optimist😂

    • @SpiderDan2099
      @SpiderDan2099 7 місяців тому +1

      Same!

    • @danielhenderson3753
      @danielhenderson3753 7 місяців тому +1

      He was PISSED. I get it. We love these movies so much, it just feels like betrayal or greed-fueled incompetence--or both--when one like this comes out.

  • @Seansyoutubehandle
    @Seansyoutubehandle 7 місяців тому +83

    One step closer to Deadpool baby. Lets hope they wake up and sell marvel Spider-Man back

    • @Jo_Mama710
      @Jo_Mama710 7 місяців тому +6

      Sony will never sell the rights back, and I’m not saying that as a fanboy. The only way I think the right would go back is if Sony was bought by another company

    • @SpiderDan2099
      @SpiderDan2099 7 місяців тому +1

      We can always hope!

    • @LifesGuardian
      @LifesGuardian 7 місяців тому

      Nah, Marvel would've blown this too. Actually, it's probably be worse because they'd have tripled the budget and still come out with a similar product.
      The Marvels. I can't even fault Larson for that turd. She actually looked like she tried with this one, too bad the story/script was trash.

    • @occheermommy
      @occheermommy 7 місяців тому +5

      People are so critical of the Marvels but half the people haven’t seen it. It is a fun movie. It’s not the hard core Winter Soldier type movie. It more Ant Man. Were there things they could do better yes but it was really good

    • @LifesGuardian
      @LifesGuardian 7 місяців тому +5

      @@occheermommy Ant-Man was never meant to be a "good" movie. He's an ancillary character just there to fill out the roster. Captain Marvel was supposed to lead The Avengers. Saying this movie was as good or even comming close to a level as Ant-Man is as hard a dig as anything I've said. Even then, I still think you're giving this movie too much credit.
      I slaughtered a world.
      That's hard... Still besties though.
      There was enormous opportunity for growth of the character here. Her actions caused a civil war that destroyed a civilization, from that destruction a villian destroyed worlds. Yet, Monica is more angry that she didn't call or come to visit? She just outed herself as space "bad guy from WW2" and the other characters barely bat an eye. She sulks for a bit, but then they all join forces and everything is ok again. Where is Kamala's broken faith in her hero? Where is the hesitation to work with her that you'd expect from someone asked to put differences aside and work with a genocider for the greater good. Marvel is so worried about offending women that they can't give this character any actual depth. That's why The Marvels was bad.
      Tony was always flawed. He boned up a lot, then grew and fixed it. Cap had his faith in SHIELD crushed and he became a criminal in service to what was right. Natasha was an assassin for the enemy and turned after meeting Clint. After that, her whole being was focused on cleaning her ledger. Even Scott was grounded by the potential loss of his daughter. They started a similar arc with Carol. Then quit halfway through.

  • @MasterGeek-mk5ne
    @MasterGeek-mk5ne 7 місяців тому +50

    Now I understood why Dakota Johnson fired all of her agents.

  • @patrickfyall3536
    @patrickfyall3536 7 місяців тому +16

    Shout out to the Batman Forever sittin in the background 👍🏿. Underrated. Lol

  • @goteamgaz
    @goteamgaz 7 місяців тому +1

    Is there a point where Disney lawyers have an argument that Sony are genuinely harming the Marvel brand and get the contract cancelled?

  • @bobkenobi1008
    @bobkenobi1008 7 місяців тому +28

    This was the youtube video my mom was watching while researching spiders in the amazon before she died...

  • @nicholasgarrick8855
    @nicholasgarrick8855 7 місяців тому +92

    Thank you ryan for taking one for the team ,and warning us about this film.

    • @psychoapplesauceeater8562
      @psychoapplesauceeater8562 7 місяців тому +1

      Warning?

    • @JAHWA710
      @JAHWA710 7 місяців тому

      He does this for EVERY movie, show, commercial, etc…

    • @huachenyuphilippines8243
      @huachenyuphilippines8243 7 місяців тому

      Its not bad for cas origin story

    • @aricwilliamsdeveloper
      @aricwilliamsdeveloper 7 місяців тому

      Don't bother staying for the post credit scene....there is none..I tell you the entire theater was pissed.............................this movie is dodo

  • @markymars
    @markymars 7 місяців тому +51

    I saw it for free and I still want reparations 😂

    • @garyfrombrooklyn
      @garyfrombrooklyn 7 місяців тому +3

      😆

    • @catsithx
      @catsithx 7 місяців тому +1

      Facts

    • @madtitan0825
      @madtitan0825 7 місяців тому +7

      2 hrs u’ll never get back sadly

    • @ocularpatdown
      @ocularpatdown 7 місяців тому +2

      How I felt about “Star Trek: Nemesis.”

    • @catsithx
      @catsithx 7 місяців тому +2

      @@ocularpatdown it's worse

  • @gannonkendrick9343
    @gannonkendrick9343 7 місяців тому +1

    I just realized that the three Spider-women are going to be Spider-women like 11 years before Peter in this continuity. Which makes Peter like a copycat four times over and Spider-man a derivative superhero.

  • @andikarachman16
    @andikarachman16 7 місяців тому +3

    I remember in an interview, one of the writer said, "madame web did not have a back story", i mean come on, she might not have a full back stories, but she did have a foundation for a good back story, in the comic its explained that her husband made her the equipments that she used as madame web, if Sony really insist on madame web stories they could actually exploit that, tell the story about her and her husband, maybe they could make it a series where she is already a street level clairvoyant and maybe her husband was a cop that need her powers to solve a case, such a miss opportunity

  • @Zombiesnyder13
    @Zombiesnyder13 7 місяців тому +72

    VENOM had the writer from 50 SHADES OF GREY (who is also directing VENOM 3)
    MORBIUS had the writers from GODS OF EGYPT (Who are also behind MADAME WEB)
    And KRAVEN THE HUNTER has the writers from TRANSFORMERS: THE LAST KNIGHT
    AVI ARAD ruined everything again
    And he isn't even involved in MADAME WEB

    • @somejerkbag
      @somejerkbag 7 місяців тому +5

      Yes I still also blame avi arad. Somehow it still reeks of him. He's just the worst

    • @nms7872
      @nms7872 7 місяців тому

      Kraven has a great director though

    • @erich9004
      @erich9004 7 місяців тому +2

      The writer of Morbius wrote this, that explains it all.

    • @SpiderDan2099
      @SpiderDan2099 7 місяців тому +1

      Haha! 😂 Just trying to sabotage everything! Spidey!

    • @Zombiesnyder13
      @Zombiesnyder13 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@nms7872
      He can't save Kraven, he's just the director, not the writer or the producer
      It's very possible that he's acting as director for hire

  • @lasaviorlove413
    @lasaviorlove413 7 місяців тому +105

    His initial statement was what I have been saying for years. People are so spoiled with the mcu they don’t understand what superhero movies were in the 90s. The mcu has changed the way nerds think movies should be. But there are still people out there that will make movies like this without reading the source material

    • @SpiderDan2099
      @SpiderDan2099 7 місяців тому +4

      Yeah like Ryan said it looks like it was made in 2003 😢 And in the movie Ezekiel get future facial recognition and tracking tech from the NSA 😅 I wish the creators of this movie got ahold of some tech to make a good movie!

    • @CyberChrist
      @CyberChrist 7 місяців тому

      Or... the MCU has gaslit you about how great movies were in the 90s, about how terrible MCU movies are, and about how they're nerd movies, while trampling all over the comics.

    • @CheebsCheeby
      @CheebsCheeby 7 місяців тому

      ​@@CyberChristlol get a hobby

    • @godlikemonolith
      @godlikemonolith 7 місяців тому +2

      This crap doesn’t make the recent MCU any good. 🤦🏽

    • @CyberChrist
      @CyberChrist 7 місяців тому

      @@CheebsCheeby Because I don't like MCU movies? Well, I used to love comics, but they destroyed that, too.

  • @TDawgBR
    @TDawgBR 7 місяців тому +82

    I've been wondering if Disney/Marvel could sue Sony for devaluing the overall Spider-man IP.

    • @SpiderDan2099
      @SpiderDan2099 7 місяців тому +8

      Oh man I wish!!

    • @jvlicious
      @jvlicious 7 місяців тому +31

      Marvel: Your honor, just look at this shit! You gotta give us Spider-man back
      Judge: Agreed, case closed ⚖️

    • @deadschooled
      @deadschooled 7 місяців тому +3

      They’ve only made 1 good movie since infinity war. Sit down and shut the hell up

    • @glenisold79
      @glenisold79 7 місяців тому +4

      They are too busy devaluing the marvel and star wars ip

    • @Treck533
      @Treck533 7 місяців тому +6

      Disney is awful aswell let’s not get it twisted

  • @Hellismary
    @Hellismary 7 місяців тому +3

    The irony is they could’ve had a comics accurate Madamn Web and she’s pulling all the spider woman across the SpiderVerse to assist her in something or another instead of how they had it here with the opposite, would’ve made her like a professor x type

  • @chrisr4023
    @chrisr4023 7 місяців тому +1

    1. Stop hiring mediocre "stars" to play a superhero role. They dont give two shits.
    2. Get an enthusiastic newbie who is familiar with the char., or who is willing to learn, or give effort into the role.
    3. Get someone who cared about the fans of the character/franchise.
    4. You now have more $$ to spend on vfx and other stuff.
    I hate seeing people who would 100% laugh and labelled comic book readers back in the day, now all of a sudden wanna be part of a franchise just cause it became cool and profitable. You can see their distaste in the eyes.

  • @NYCHotDogStands
    @NYCHotDogStands 7 місяців тому +30

    Thanks goodness you're sponsored by Better Help. I just signed up after watching this movie.

    • @SpiderDan2099
      @SpiderDan2099 7 місяців тому +1

      😂 oh man had the same thoughts while watching this video! 😊

  • @danimitetwitch
    @danimitetwitch 7 місяців тому +70

    It’s fascinating they seem to be driving the spiderman ip full speed in two opposite directions on both the live action and animated front. They keep making amazing animated films that raise the standard for aniamted storytelling, and somehow simultaneously driving the live action spiderman stuff right off the edge of a cliff. It’s just amazing. There is no middle ground with Sony.

    • @michaelmurray6197
      @michaelmurray6197 7 місяців тому +1

      I wonder if part of that has to do with what is going on at Disney. Apparently they are getting sued for how they have been treating their animators. Basically the allegation is that they forced a bunch of their most experienced animators out in order to make more room for diversity hires. Would be interesting to see if Sony picked up a bunch of these animators and that is why they have been making such great animated films.

    • @tskmaster3837
      @tskmaster3837 7 місяців тому +1

      I don't like the Spider-verse movies so either I'm very wrong or I'm the only one who sees how empty they are.
      "With great power comes great canon."

    • @danimitetwitch
      @danimitetwitch 7 місяців тому

      @@michaelmurray6197 possibly, i know that across the field there has been a ton of talk around huge crunch demands on animation and vfx teams which was part of the writers and sag aftra strike last year. Maybe disney is burning out their best talent and they are going elsewhere. Honestly i can wait 5 years for spider-verse 3 so long as animators are getting treated fairly.

    • @MCPanda6969
      @MCPanda6969 7 місяців тому

      @@tskmaster3837 "empty" isn't the right word here. "shallow" is, but then comes the question "why are you watching a cartoon and expecting depth?"

    • @LuznoLindo
      @LuznoLindo 7 місяців тому

      ​@@MCPanda6969 Because cartoons these days have depth. Steven Universe, Gravity Falls, The Owl House, and many others.

  • @Bonzulac
    @Bonzulac 7 місяців тому +48

    "He was in the Amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders right before she died" wasn't in the actual film.

    • @Terrible0x0Trivium
      @Terrible0x0Trivium 7 місяців тому +6

      You should probably move.
      Cyborg, Justice League (2017)

  • @sandeepkark
    @sandeepkark 7 місяців тому +1

    someone was pointing out that all these young writers have not read any comic books and they are not expected to read, so obviously they are not even close to the source material, expect character names they get everything wrong

  • @laserbeam1620
    @laserbeam1620 7 місяців тому +3

    The first ad for this video was for Madame Web LOL

  • @professort5550
    @professort5550 7 місяців тому +21

    Every time I see the trailer on TV, I think, “Yeah, not gonna bother. I’ll wait for streaming “ 😂

  • @dereklasker5350
    @dereklasker5350 7 місяців тому +31

    Watching the roundtable part felt like watching a sports talk show for a team that’s past their championship window and is about to collapse and go into a rebuild phase

    • @mzaite
      @mzaite 7 місяців тому

      You mean the last 40 years of Cleveland Sports talk radio?

  • @jdkincorporated4577
    @jdkincorporated4577 7 місяців тому +112

    Wow. I've never seen Ryan be so dissatisfied with a movie. I'll wait to see it on streaming... Free streaming. 😑

    • @daddydojang
      @daddydojang 7 місяців тому +9

      You won’t have to wait long. Haha

    • @foreverfendi1037
      @foreverfendi1037 7 місяців тому +2

      Dang, nerds getting finer and finer every year😍

    • @Cyranowan
      @Cyranowan 7 місяців тому +1

      Don't listen to him. Even if you're a fan of Spider-Man and know who Madame Web is, this is an origin story. And like most movie made from comics, they alter the source of the origin. I didn't know her origins. I wasn't a big spidey fan back then and now. But it was an okay movie. It's a B plus at best. And it sets it up where she can show up in other movies later on and we'll see. That said, I don't think this movie deserves a sequel. I mean what is she going to do? Drive around in her wheelchair?

    • @youngserg438
      @youngserg438 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Cyranowanyeah it’s really not that bad

    • @youngserg438
      @youngserg438 7 місяців тому +1

      It’s not that bad of a movie lol this video is way over blown

  • @vaughnturner
    @vaughnturner 6 місяців тому +1

    That guy at 21:40 sounded just like Comic Book Guy from The Simpsons! 😂😂😂

  • @gicousinjoe6199
    @gicousinjoe6199 7 місяців тому +2

    This movie is the cinematic equivalent of a wet fart in an elevator - offensive, nauseating, and impossible to escape.

    • @jeromewagschal9485
      @jeromewagschal9485 7 місяців тому +1

      That's the stuff of nightmares ☹️☹️ and I speak from personal experience...If that movie is the cinematic equivalent of that count me out...

  • @paulzbylut6770
    @paulzbylut6770 7 місяців тому +16

    Finally somebody with a platform saying all the things that I have been feeling for years about Sony

  • @anzelcanete435
    @anzelcanete435 7 місяців тому +34

    I wonder if Sony ushered this movie to the market in an attempt to preserve the Spiderman property until they finish the Spider-Verse Trilogy because let's be real it's the only thing they have going for them right now.

    • @nicholasfactor
      @nicholasfactor 7 місяців тому +2

      it's been public knowledge for a while that's what they're doing.

    • @raok
      @raok 7 місяців тому +1

      Keep IP rights locked with movie every 2-3 years

  • @joshprice7527
    @joshprice7527 7 місяців тому +44

    watching this cause im not going to see the film😂

  • @jgberzerker
    @jgberzerker 7 місяців тому

    Essentially “replacing” spider-man with Venom and/or spider-woman is exactly what Sony should be doing. Craven actually looks pretty good. Craven hunting Venom rather than Spider-man could be a phenomenal movie.

  • @mlowentertainment
    @mlowentertainment 6 місяців тому

    How did no one notice the irony of mentioning “Black Cat” as his black, cat is walking across his desk with his tail in front of his face😂😂 please someone tell me they also noticed and laughed 😂❤

  • @baron7755
    @baron7755 7 місяців тому +20

    1:45 thats because Dakota Johnson is a one-note actor. The movie could have been the best MCU movie there was, and she would still deliver dialogue the same.

  • @JPinnix1818
    @JPinnix1818 7 місяців тому +19

    Matt’s review at 7:18 had me gasp that’s horrible comparison 😂. “Monks spend their entire lifetimes…” 😂😂😂😂

  • @joshDammmit
    @joshDammmit 7 місяців тому +62

    Sony is fulfilling a contractural obligation to keep a Spider-Man property in production at all times in order to retain the rights to keep IP rights over Spider-Man and affiliated IPs.

    • @Jezee213
      @Jezee213 7 місяців тому

      How was MCU able to make spider man without the rights? Did they just get permission or?

    • @joshmoney5986
      @joshmoney5986 7 місяців тому +5

      that doesnt mean they have to make dog sh*t movies to do so.

    • @Scotty2Hotty4
      @Scotty2Hotty4 7 місяців тому +5

      @@Jezee213in 2016 remember civil war ? Spider man appeared…. There Is a license agreement and now contractual binded between Sony and ‘DISNEY’ (who owns marvel and the comic rights literally ) that allowed It to be beneficial to both sides.. however, what gets confusing Is Sony cannot plagiarize from the comics to on screen film without the permission of Disney/marvel itself which is owned by Disney solely.

    • @diegojose4173
      @diegojose4173 7 місяців тому +9

      The deal is that they have a time limit of five years to produce films. If they don't produce a film in five years, the theatrical rights return to Disney.

    • @jaquanpowell4605
      @jaquanpowell4605 7 місяців тому +5

      @@Jezee213a partnership between Sony and Marvel. They split the profits

  • @danmarks158
    @danmarks158 7 місяців тому

    I'm impressed that Ryan can say the words "Black Cat" and one immediately manifests itself in front of him.

  • @brethart9303
    @brethart9303 7 місяців тому

    I've always felt that if Sony really wants Spider-Man in their films, they can either focus on the Miles Morales character, or bring back Andrew Garfield.

  • @more17
    @more17 7 місяців тому +12

    Dakota Johnson definitely thought she was going to be in the MCU; she tagged Marvel studios in a social media post when she got the role. After she saw the first trailer and how bad it was, she fired her talent agency. I think she's doing everything she can to distance herself from this movie.

  • @quiden75
    @quiden75 7 місяців тому +18

    Venom making nearly $1B encouraged Sony to make unserious films like this versus a Miles or Spider-Gwen film.

  • @hamsmcham3238
    @hamsmcham3238 7 місяців тому +6

    My daughter went to see it last night with friends and when I went to pick her up, I was like "How was it?" And she was like "*sigh* I really wanted to like it. I like the actors, I like it's a bunch of girls... But it was bad... Like really not good"

  • @autolargue
    @autolargue 7 місяців тому +1

    The writers of this video show they know little about the Spiderman history and how impactful the character is to the whole Spiderman world.

  • @jbolin75
    @jbolin75 7 місяців тому +4

    Matt's scenes need to include a volume warning, lol.

  • @MrTragedious986
    @MrTragedious986 7 місяців тому +12

    Why is Sony so obsessed on making spin off movies without Spider Man? What are they trying to accomplish other than money? All they been doing is hurting the Superhero fatigue.

    • @HumanB312
      @HumanB312 7 місяців тому +3

      Miles, Spider Gwen or Black Cat could work without Spider-Man

    • @MrTragedious986
      @MrTragedious986 7 місяців тому +2

      @@HumanB312 yeah, but not for Madame Web.

    • @thealjohnsonshow2188
      @thealjohnsonshow2188 7 місяців тому +2

      +MrJulesR986
      To hold onto the Spider-Man rights

  • @amcdavey
    @amcdavey 7 місяців тому +12

    Sony makes the movies that Zaslav should be deleting

  • @enigma7385
    @enigma7385 7 місяців тому +10

    I need to clip this: 10:28 "What where you, what wha... what was your... wha... how?"

  • @metubecm
    @metubecm 5 місяців тому

    nobody even flinched when Ryan brings up 'black cat', just as his black cat blocks the camera 😆

  • @puresugah
    @puresugah 4 місяці тому

    My husband and I watched it on Netflix last night…we howled for two hours straight. Five minutes in and the movie destroyed itself. It’s crazy they actually released this, but they did!

  • @itsmytoast666
    @itsmytoast666 7 місяців тому +31

    Adam Scott is a baller. His stuff with Adult Swim, where he reenacts various tv openings was absolute genius. Scott's hilarious, and I want to believe he enjoys comics the same way he enjoys Fast & Furious.

  • @zenith8569
    @zenith8569 7 місяців тому +22

    Reportedly, Venom 3 is going to have him face off against Toxin, which would be the third symbiote vs symbiote fight in a row. Gives early seasons of The Flash vibes... It'd be better if at the end of Kraven, we see his next hunt is Venom and Venom 3 ditches Toxin so we can see Kraven and Venom fight. At least then there's some connections. Plus neither has to die. Toxin could still be involved and be the one to break up the fight. Or maybe Toxin's so bad that the other two have to team up in order to beat Toxin. I dunno, but right now none of these are exciting anymore.

    • @Sheamus1212
      @Sheamus1212 7 місяців тому +7

      For the love of god can they stop. Even carnage was awful. And having two syms fight is so boring since theyre just blobs that cant die

    • @zenith8569
      @zenith8569 7 місяців тому

      @@Sheamus1212 I agree. I was hyped for the first movie, hopeful for the second, and not looking forward at all to the third. For a studio working so closely to Marvel, they've really learned absolutely nothing about... Well, about anything. Can't even seem to connect their movies.

    • @viperswhip
      @viperswhip 7 місяців тому

      Nothing in any of the movies has come close to having a villain as good as the first season of The Flash.

    • @zenith8569
      @zenith8569 7 місяців тому +1

      @@viperswhip Oh, I enjoyed season one. Not comparing the quality of villians, though. Venom would lose hands down.

  • @CtrlOptDel
    @CtrlOptDel 7 місяців тому +25

    At this point I get the feeling that these movies - Morbius, Madame Web, probably Craven the Hunter too - are pure contractual obligations & these characters will all get killed-off in slapstick ways in the first act of Avengers: Secret Wars…

    • @mattgilbert7347
      @mattgilbert7347 7 місяців тому +5

      Like the opening of "The Suicide Squad" (Gunn's movie, not that first abomination).

    • @crystalshaw8744
      @crystalshaw8744 7 місяців тому +3

      One can only hope.

  • @unbabunga229
    @unbabunga229 7 місяців тому +1

    Princess Anne’s attempted kidnapping is honestly one of the craziest stories, she really is a fierce and strong woman

  • @LegoDermDad
    @LegoDermDad 6 місяців тому

    I am going on 74 years old. I have been a Marvel fan since I was 6 when "comic books" were 10 cents each. My son and I see ALL the Marvel based movies together. We thought Morbius was "bad". However Madame Web has reached a new level of GARBAGE !!!!! What is Sony's problem. They should fire all the idiots that were involved in making this trash and refund everyone who was tortured by viewing this with interest and an apology.

  • @Yutaaa11
    @Yutaaa11 7 місяців тому +12

    The first scenes were so fcking funny, because they kept zooming in the face every dialogue like a sitcom 😂

  • @MusicLover-my6fo
    @MusicLover-my6fo 7 місяців тому +5

    I'll never understand why some people legitimately believe that Sony keeping the film IP for Spider-Man is a good thing. Just because the Spider-Verse films are good, the same can't be said about the rest of the products. It's very clear that the Spider-Verse films are made by a slightly different company that specializes in animation because the passion shows over to the screen. The Spider-Verse films are the exception, but they are definitely *not* the rule.

  • @johnbradley1139
    @johnbradley1139 7 місяців тому +12

    Matt went into vapor lock when you dropped the Uncle Ben reveal.

    • @profmicoy
      @profmicoy 6 місяців тому +1

      I laughed SO HARD at this!!!!! When I first watched it, I thought his screen was glitching! And then he blinked and I saw that he was just fuckin’ flabbergasted for a good 20 seconds, lol! I ran that part back about six times!

  • @jimmyk4445
    @jimmyk4445 7 місяців тому

    Matt: "Madame Web was really bad"
    Ryan: "thanks for that hot take"

  • @xzero422
    @xzero422 7 місяців тому

    My favorite part is when Madame Web said, "I have you trapped in my...web!"

  • @montycarlomusic
    @montycarlomusic 7 місяців тому +5

    Man I am SO GLAD that you kept it real with this I was waiting to see if you were going to sugarcoat how bad it was and just glaze like a lot of breakdown channels do.. it’s almost disrespectful for them to release this movie

  • @MusicLover-my6fo
    @MusicLover-my6fo 7 місяців тому +5

    What if Madame Web becomes so bad that it's memeable to the point that Sony puts it back in theaters after it's been digitally released just like they did to Morbius? I wouldn't put it past them.

  • @davidgonzales9039
    @davidgonzales9039 7 місяців тому +5

    "He worked at Amazon with my mom right before she got fired for putting spiders in the breakroom"

  • @Selfamused
    @Selfamused 3 місяці тому

    3 months later, I'm glad I waited till it was available on my Netflix subscription instead of paying a theater.

  • @viktorj16
    @viktorj16 3 місяці тому

    So I just watched this... I thought it was my wireless headset failing when I saw overlapping audio.. I even restarted my TV after...

  • @marcakins3373
    @marcakins3373 7 місяців тому +8

    I can’t wait to stream this train-wreak, thanks for taking one for the team…

    • @youngserg438
      @youngserg438 7 місяців тому

      This video is really way over blown it’s not that bad.

  • @7eeroy
    @7eeroy 7 місяців тому +20

    "On TNT" 💀

  • @jt28206
    @jt28206 7 місяців тому +11

    What Sony wants to do is keep cranking out these mid tier movies so they can hold on to the rights of spider man. Morbius really didn’t even lose money. This might not either. It’s pretty obvious what they’re doing. They don’t care about the bad press, they don’t care about the disasters, they want to hang on to the spider rights.

    • @kellycriterion1019
      @kellycriterion1019 7 місяців тому +1

      Well,if it were you,wouldn't you want to keep the rights?

    • @SpiderDan2099
      @SpiderDan2099 7 місяців тому

      All the while giving the MCU and Marvel proper a (much not needed at this time) worse wrap! 🫣

    • @andrewshandle
      @andrewshandle 7 місяців тому +2

      They don't need to put out 3 movies a year to keep the rights.

    • @arnoldd9664
      @arnoldd9664 7 місяців тому +1

      This isn’t true. Also box office disasters will affect a lot of things

    • @simonkendra3079
      @simonkendra3079 7 місяців тому +3

      At the same time why keep the rights if you’re not making money off of it? “Let’s not lose the rights because dollars” *makes movies that cost dollars but don’t make any*

  • @IronTiger
    @IronTiger 7 місяців тому +1

    "It's like if Warner Bros. had the rights to Superboy instead of Superman."
    Well, let me tell you about Salkinds...

  • @marasmorgean5813
    @marasmorgean5813 7 місяців тому

    They already gave you the answer: Madame Web is lesser known - so they can re-create her the way they want. Also you do not need a certain actor/actress (like iron man / thor etc).

  • @KingArthurFleck
    @KingArthurFleck 7 місяців тому +6

    "It would be amazing and spectacular".... I see what you did there LOL

  • @kevthepoet
    @kevthepoet 7 місяців тому +5

    "It would be amazing AND spectacular." Nice work Matt, nice work.

  • @garyfrombrooklyn
    @garyfrombrooklyn 7 місяців тому +22

    Well, hopefully Mystery Science Theater can make something of this 😆

    • @SpiderDan2099
      @SpiderDan2099 7 місяців тому +3

      That I would pay twice as much to see! 🤑

    • @thunderpantz
      @thunderpantz 7 місяців тому +1

      Rifftrax

  • @FabulousKilljoy917
    @FabulousKilljoy917 7 місяців тому +1

    You’d think Sony would just be happy making tv & game console money…but no…no…their greed knows no bounds, they must run the spider man brand into the dirt.

  • @whatrublind9942
    @whatrublind9942 7 місяців тому

    There goal was to keep mentioning spider-man so much that Disney Marvel would have to do a movie in their universe!

  • @lalalalalalalasing
    @lalalalalalalasing 7 місяців тому +6

    Black cat sightings:
    19:34
    22:52 (as Ryan mentions Black Cat)

  • @CeeJay591
    @CeeJay591 7 місяців тому +4

    If Ryan is ripping this apart it must have no redeeming qualities AT ALL, as this man tries very hard to find the good in everything.

  • @tristanxxxx
    @tristanxxxx 7 місяців тому +5

    I almost went out to the movies this afternoon to see this. Then a snow storm hit, and I stayed in. THEN I saw this video. Thank you, Ryan and Screencrush. I will, instead of giving them my money, be pirating this movie when it comes out (because I still want to see it for myself).

    • @zonesproductions
      @zonesproductions 7 місяців тому

      I'm not even going to waste time pirating it.

    • @kendallandrews8691
      @kendallandrews8691 7 місяців тому +2

      It is really bad, but I didn't mind watching it. Bad movies can be fun

  • @kellytibbs3815
    @kellytibbs3815 7 місяців тому

    They totally called it, make Venom your Spider-Man. Venom v Craven would have been huge !