Yeah it makes zero sense. It’s hard enough to believe that anyone could “travel” to the quantum world, but at least Ant Man had a bullshit suit with air supply that keeps him in a suitable environment. But I guess now people can just hang out there, breathe “air”, and apparently have Star Wars bars. So stupid.
Well I mean its comic/movie fiction logic. I interpreted the Quantum Realm as an entirely new universe. I think there's this common theory that if you shrink far enough, you'll find yourself in a "smaller" universe. Which could be interpreted the same if you somehow grow big enough you'll find yourself in another "bigger" universe. But I do prefer when the Quantum Realm wasn't full of life and was more of a mysterious limbo.
That was something strange and mysterious, which made it interesting and something that you remember when shown. Same with the tesseract in Interstellar.
I liked that Cassie was just a normal girl before. It made it so much more impactful that her dad got drawn into this whole superhero crap. I would have much rather seen someone who was just brought along for the ride , who is afraid of losing her father again after the Blip, and is trying to get to know him all over again. …Buuuuut nope she’s gotta be another genius girl boss.
I heard in the next one she throws a 273 yard TD to Mahomes to win the Superbowl with 1 second left on the clock. The story covers how she beat him out in camp, and he switched to tight end because he wanted to play for such an inspiring leader. Evil whyte man, Tom Brady is the villain, but he has a redemption arc after the final siren, realising she is the REAL goat, and proclaiming her as such, publicly. She also cures cancer at half time by funnelling it ALL into Trump, then launching him into the sun.
Oh, come on. They did not need to homogenize Cassie into being another Ironheart or Ms. Marvel! At least Kamala Khan - Ms. Marvel had a positive, uniquely entertaining energy about her instead of Cassie acting like a discount Karli Morgenthau without the violent flag-smashing who preaches to the superheroes about helping homeless people. Girl bosses do not sell as well as Disney thinks they do, especially when they are this poorly developed and thought-out and cookie-cutter. You can not just scream "representation" and let that be the end of your efforts to write a smart female character whose only flaw is being too powerful or too insufferable. That is how HBOmax got itself stuck with 💩like Velma, when Warner Brothers Discovery was not wise enough to Batgirl it into oblivion like they did with Scoob! Holiday Haunt, Scooby-Doo and Krypto Too, and a whole bunch of other Scooby-Doo projects that WBD on a dime decided were just not worth the risk to sell on HBOmax...because they were too good to generate as many hate-watchers as Velma, even though there are plenty of positive Scooby-Doo fans who would gladly pay HBOmax good money to watch all of those things. Why the fork would WBD and HBOmax stake everything Scooby-Doo on Velma, this disrespectful, bizarro product of nothing but negative nostalgia? April 21, 2023, 12:03pm
Remember when the Winter Soldier was built up across three films and the careful story telling to turn him into a hero? Remember how Spider-Man was re-introduced to everyone? Remember how carefully laid the plans were for Thanos? Yep, neither do the head honchos at Disney.
When Cassie shit on Scott because he never done anything when he already returning half of universe people. I know Thanos was right, MCU better die with dignity
Remember when multiverses and variants were displayed in Endgame? Remember the entire show Loki? Or Spider-Man No-Way-Home? Or latest Dr. Strange? I guess you don’t remember either.
When the heck was the Winter Soldier a hero? And what build up for him? He was barely there in the tripe that was named after him. He was a prize in Civil War. And... that's about it. Like honestly if you think he had build up or is a hero you probably ingest far too much fandom.
One thing I am beginning to notice with more recent Marvel releases is that the threat continuously comes not from the villain itself but that the protagonists just makes a stupid mistake that puts him or her and the others all in jeopardy. All of this just boils down to simple fact that screenwriters can't think of anything narratively meaningful and so all they can do is to have the characters create a problem in order to have them solve it. Genius writing.
No way home in a nutshell. That entire turd of a film wouldn't even have happened if the writers gave Peter or Strange an ounce of brain power. Seeing all these characters deemed as 'geniuses' and then witnessing them make obvious mistakes just makes me cringe.
@@gamemediafan1714 Her father is a producer who worked on Spider-Man:Far from Home, which also happened to have the same casting director which worked on this movie. Hollywood is just about connections, not talent.
disney represents the gen z teens in mcu. disney wants thier PRINCESSES wearing PLOT ARMOR to be beloved by gen z. you may even notice every strong man dying in the mcu (kang) defeated by women. disney sucks.
@@liamphibia To be fair, the Cassie we remember has grown up to be a teenager in which you know how teenager works. That being said, it doesn't justify her annoying behaviour either especially that she and her dad is in the middle of nowhere
I love how these citizens of the Quantum Realm under Kang's ironfist rule all of a sudden found the courage to rebel at the tower solely because Cassie the activist took ownership of the Zoom call
The first 15 mins of this movie summarises the current state of the MCU. Paul Lang is enjoying life, he is an celebrated author and is attending book signings. Whilst reading a particularly inspiring excerpt to a group of children he is contacted by the police. It turns out his 14yo daughter has been arrested. He quickly cuts the book signing short and rushes to the police station to be met by his insufferable, unapologetic daughter. She disrespects him repeatedly along with the police. On the way home he voices his displeasure and tells her not to be arrested again. He is then ganged up on by his daughter and gf. He is shamed for attempting to parent his own child, for ‘telling his daughter what to do’. When they arrive home they are enjoying pizza. Paul tries to get support from other family members who inform him that his daughter has been arrested before and that they never told him. Also that his daughter has been engaged in dangerous experiments behind his back. His thoughts and opinions dismissed and ridiculed. Wow, what fantastic messaging Disney! I have never witnessed such a thorough emasculation of a man in my life. It’s surprising Paul Langford isn’t suicidal. Is this really the kind of message you want to teach young women?
This is why you SLAP respect and obedience into kids when they are young so you don't end up with disrespectful, insufferable little assholes and bitches.
I like the part where Scott learns nothing, faces no personal consequences to his own life, doesn’t get conflicted with any ethical choice like the trailer suggested, does not get to do anything particularly heroic and gets to continue living his life as if nothing happened. Also loved the constant amount of Deux ex machina, exposition and plot contrivances scattered all throughout the movie. 10/10
I mean he would have if he knew about Kang's past but I guess they wanted to skip that. I will play the devil's advocate and say they at least made him do heroic stuff without getting shafted like in other movies.
Man if they would’ve made the movie how the trailer looked I would’ve walked out from the unoriginality. Trailer looked he was regretting missing a time that happened in the past so he was going to fix it. WE JUST GOT THAT WITH SPIDER-MAN lol was happy that skipped predictable plots. at this point it’s not Marvel it’s y’all and group think.
@@adonislavale8283 Because Ant man 3 plot is unpredictable right? A big bad guy wants to end the world and then the good guys win. That’s not predictable? If ant man had gotten trapped in the quantum realm due to him trying to keep Kang i’m there, that would have been less predictable than the happy ending we saw coming from the beginning. And it would have make us care for Cassie losing her father. Instead nothing of weight happens, no consequences nothing.
@@prestigiorebelde Which would have been close to what happen to him from a comic... but I guess they decided not to because that's not safe to do. Like man...
To make it worse, his mother in law omitted about her knowledge about Kang from everyone which put the whole multiverse in danger but she didn’t get chastised like Scott did.
Each new Ant-Man movie seems to drift further from the idea that the normal world is a completely different and fantastical place when viewed from a miniaturized perspective. That gave the first movie a lot of charm and a distinctively grounded feel that has completely disappeared by this point
I completely agree, the Antman movies get worse and worse. I really liked the first movie, how it got creative when taking a character and shrinking him. I still remember him shrinking in the bathroom, running through door locks, and flying on Anthony. Such a wholesome and humorous movie. The Wasp was decent, but I honestly can't remember anything about it. Literally the only scene I can remember is the post credit scene, where they got snapped. And this movie succeeded in making the Quantum Realm boring and lame.
I think you summed it up perfectly. The MCU is no longer an Event to experience, it is a Gig. A series of repeated nonsense done over and over and over again till everyone has ‘seen this all before”, but the actor’s contracts force them to continue on into perpetuity. It’s not something new anymore. It’s a Gig. And as Scott Pilgrim’s band mate said ‘who cares if it’s selling out? A gig is a gig is a gig is a gig.”
Maybe it's just me, but I felt this way at the second Avengers movie. I think Marvel movies are fun, but at least for me they became old extremely quickly. One every now and then is good fun, but I can't imagine seeing twenty of them.
Get your goofy ahh out of here, 'an event to experience'. You talking like Marvel used to be seeing a Mozart concerto in real life. It was always fast blockbuster entertainment, now its fast and dumb
The new MCU movies after Endgame feel like those repeatable side quests you unlock after beating the main storyline, but are treated like important major events that you need to do or else the world ends or something.
That's my issue with these movies. They already beat the big threat that they've been building to for 10 years. Now they have nowhere to go. It's the same with Star Wars. The prequels were building up to the Fall of the Republic and the Birth of the Empire. The original trilogy was about defeating the Empire. There is no good reason to have any movies after you've finished telling a story already. The best sequels are really just parts of a bigger overarching story. When you create a story that builds and resolves a problem in one movie, it is extremely hard to make a compelling sequel.
@@alpacawithouthat987 You are naïve if you thought the entire MCU was gonna end with endgame. This is one of the biggest franchises out there and there’s plenty of source material they can pull from.
@@alpacawithouthat987 Thanos is weak compared to what else is in the comics. The only way for another huge infinity war type event on screen would be to get rid of basically everything in my opinion. Iron man is dead, all the actors are in their 40s, by the time they built up the next villain, the avengers would be 15 - 20 years off their pension. Introduce xmen and fantastic four, maybe reboot a few big names like spiderman, hulk, daredevil and thor and iron man. 10 year film saga that builds up doctor doom and galactus.
Do the writers really think that teenagers are so stuck up they’d hate their father after he died for 4 years trying to save the universe? If that happened to me I would appreciate them forever
Which is exactly what Marvel wants you to do when introducing a menacing/challenging character into the story. Laugh. I think they think Marvel is like some shitty version of a copy/paste Medieval play where you just boo and hiss the villain and cheer whenever the hero pops on screen for any reason
That's usually what jokes do. Did anyone here ever read a comic with Modoc in it? He was always a joke. A bumbling side kick that despite being a huge head was a bumbling moron. Do you guys just want to watch a gay porn with no jokes or women in it?
@@Whooooooaaamaaan But thats literally what modok is in the comics, he's a giant floating head who's appearance has been made fun of since his conception. They take advantage of the fact that theres literally no way they could translate Modok in a serious way, so they make fun of his looks rather than try to make his something he's not
You hit the nail on the head when you said no one has their heart in it anymore. It’s so painfully obvious. At one point it was this glorious thing you could get excited about - you knew who everyone was, you knew something was coming, they brought everyone together for the first time in cinema history, they threw in a long game villain, they built the stakes, they delivered. It ended with End Game. That film was the culmination. The issue is Marvel doesn’t understand you don’t always want to be on holiday. You need time to miss it. They’re so scared people will forget about it or move on that they forgot quality ALWAYS wins out. Make something good and people will see it regardless of how much time has passed.
"They brought together for the first time in cinema history..." That's a slightly ignorant statement, no offense. Pretty sure a large base of the theater crowd revisted The Rocky Horror Picture Show, and would all stand up and sing together some of the songs in it. The original Star Wars trilogy garnered multiple revisits to the theater too and was an unforgettable banning together of fans who would cosplay just to go to those movies. In recent history, Endgame is about the only thing going on, but people are more reserved than they were in the 70s and 80s. A lot of the audience flare is toned down and mostly kept in private groups. There's no shabang that makes people burst out of their social bubbles to expound their excitement to all around them. Endgame had a lot going on in terms of expectation, but, socially-speaking, it's 'just a movie' a lot of people like.
I miss the days when the first Avengers Infinity War trailer was released and the hype was insane. Going to the premiere of Infinity War in a fully packed movie theater was truly the peak of the MCU in my opinion.
Agreed. Infinity war was my last positive memory of MCU, going to see Marvel films was an event back in those days. I don't even remember going to see Endgame.
Marvel back in the day: every character/hero has well defined characteristics, powers and flaws that don't usually overlap other heroes, resulting in several well ronded characters that can shine in specific situations, resulting in great stories where you need that one hero do to something. Marvel now: eVeRy TeEnAgEr CaN cReAtE sTaRk TeCh In ThEiR hOmE.
And everyone has nanotech. Everyone can just think that they want their helmet gone, and POOF it's automatically stored. Want it back? POOF, it's back. I hate it!
Everytime a movie trailer from Marvel comes out nowadays, comments are filled with “they are gonna fix the MCU with this one!” Then the movie is trash lol
It is such a shame though because the first Ant Man movie was actually great. It was going into the right direction. The second one wasn't that bad, but they did portray the ant man as an idiot. Even though he seemed quite clever and smart in the first movie. And now this? The images alone make it look bland and useless.
I legitimately believed that with this one though💀. It was introducing the main villian of the saga so i was sure they would make sure to deliver on that but ig having him basically killed off by mf ants is cool too
You are not alone. I watched every MCU movie with glee until I reached a point where I never watched another MCU movie with glee. They were doing a good job with Ant Man but of course, MCU. So, I will continue to not watch.
Talk me about it. Hope's hairdoo in the first Ant Man made her so cute, but this shaggy shit she has in Quantumanalia makes her look like an insufferable and unpleasant high school teacher.
I love the fact that Kang has millions of years of advanced technology he was able to bring into the quantum realm and yet his minions still use the old hackable 4-digit pin code you get in ATMs as a security feature to get his command center up and running.
Did I miss something from the plot? I don't recall him bringing millions of years of advanced technology into the quantum realm. I thought he was exiled there and developed the technology / community afterwards. All he had with him was the ship. Not saying that this is much better, but it might explain the lack of consistent resources that you are referring to.
@@FuntGrunt Catwoman when asked why the people in the quatumworld couldn't stand against him, says that his technology is far superior and no match for what they had there.
I don't trust Disney anymore. Top Gun Maverick beating Black Panther and Infinity War at the worldwide box office and The Batman having a richer, original story than anything Marvel and Disney put out was the wake up call I needed to get away from Disney. Hell, Guillermo Del Toro's Pinnochio had more detail in the characters and soul in the story and characters than Disney's soulless remake! Even Marcel the Shell and Bob's Burgers the Movie were sweeter than Turning Red or Strange World.
@@michaelpothoven1041 Seriously yeah! Only once or twice before I (and others) have noticed him being more upset than usual with the ending, but this felt even worse than those times. And I can understand. I think everybody here can. Entertainment is dead. Long live the good old days and your DVD collection in the attic.
Uh, but that line comes at the very end of the review when we already have a "good grasp." So how can 219 people agree with your inane comment? Group think. Where the term "sheep" got it's new meaning.
Not gonna lie, the first Antman was one of my favorite MCU films with the reason being Antman wasn't a millionaire or genius scientist. He was just a guy on parole that worked at a fast-food place & just wanted to see his family again...
And then got a suit from a millionaire biotechnology scientist that basically created time travel and the bending of time and space. It's actually more realistic that batman would exist or Tony stark than ant man.
@@1stAmendmentorDie1776 it is not supposed to be realistic, Ant Man 1 was appreciated because Scott Lang was a broken man, who was somehow trying to fix his life and ends up being a superhero. In this movie the Sheroes are good at almost everything and the virtue signalling has ruined what could be a proper story line setup, sth like Iron Man 3
Yeah that was its appeal. It wasn’t that great though, it fell to the usual marvel formula quite a lot but the premise truly is different. But even stripping that away makes it so much worse
Nah. Crazy part was Drinker was not joking when he said 'called him a d!ck' to convince MODOK to switch sides. Had I not seen the movie (boring, like a kid's saturday morning cartoon) I would have thought that an exaggeration. It literally happened.
You guys hating for no reason. It was a great movie. In post credits a variant of Kang meets Ant-Man and says, "I am Kang!" Ant-Man looks at him and asks, "Kang? Have I killed you before?" Still gives me chills!!
I remember reading a comment regarding Cassie, and how she could've been handled better than what we got in Ant-Man 3. Long story short, the person who wrote it described making her into a character dealing with severe abandonment issues, which would make sense given The Snap and what happened to Scott and most likely her mother & step-father. She thinly hides it under the guise of being your typical high school girl, who does well enough in school and talks about boys & social media stuff -- but underneath all of that, she's scared of losing Scott and is at times a bit clingy. I mean, I'd rather have abandonment issues & possible separation anxiety than the unrealistic, genius-savant, girl-boss activist in the film. Oh, and Emma Fuhrman should've been given an f-ing chance to prove herself!
Exactly. When Batman is with the Justice League he deals with planetary level threats. By himself he deals with all the villains in Gotham. Not every story needs to be about saving the universe because if they are there's no way to ever raise the stakes.
“Scott you may have helped saved the universe with the Avengers, but what have you done lately?! You gotta do better Scott, you gotta step up!” -Scott’s Family
Imagine saying that to a WWII veteran who saved the world from being taken over by the Nazis, because that's essentially what Scott is - apart from like, times a trillion.
That’s what frustrates me about Hollywood writing nowadays, all teenagers, specially female, are more calm, mature, intelligent, observant, and self-assured than any adult in the room despite of their experience or achievements and without anything to show for except being or feeling neglected by their parents.
The fact that the father who helped saved the entire universe still isn't enough to the daughter is phenomenal. But that's expected of post Endgame M-She-U nowadays.
Having Hank being the one who built the device instead of Cassie would've made more damn sense Edit: to anyone who has a problem with my comment let's agree to disagree and not make a big deal out of it
@@spideydew20 yeah I kind of forgot the whole movie started because of a science project lol. It doesn’t matter who built it because it was just a plot device to make the story happen.
But he kinda did, they say that she did it with his help. It more so that Hank is being nice and giving her the credit even though it was a shared effort at best. Which is fine since its a sort of Grandfatherly thing to do, though I suppose you could say that the character Hank Pym would be more possessive over his designs, but in this situation I don't see that being a fair complaint. So I don't see it being a problem this time, though I'm sure they will make her too unrealistically smart later on in another movie despite him not being around to help.
It felt like Cassie is an apathetic psychopath. She never showed any emotions of love, fear, anger, etc. She actually never cared what happens to others or anything. She doesn't want to help anyone, she just want to show off something she's not. Also her hair and face looked good even after an intense battle. The only bearable character was Scott Lang in the entire movie
One huge mistake I knew the writers would absolutely make is having Ant Man defeat Kang, even if temporary. Kang is supposed to be the next greatest threat rivaling or surpassing Thanos in scale. If Ant man can even slightly best, out-think, or outmaneuver Kang; it completely takes down his aura as a genuine threat. Imagine if during Captain America 2; Rogers and his crew had a small skirmish with Thanos and manages to get the best of him, even for only a moment, and temporally stops him. It would completely ruin his build-up, mystery, and proper strength of a villain worthy of this caliber. At BEST, Kang should have the Ant family running for their lives, with Kang completely immobilizing them just before the escape, and then deciding at the last moment to let the Ant family escape out of pity; like its his version of honoring the deal. This would keep Kang as a real threat, as he sees Ant Man as someone not even worth killing.
Istg this is exactly what I was thinking. Like every character who speaks about Kang does so with fear in their eyes. They whisper his name in terror. And ANT MAN of all the superheros beats him (KILLS HIM) in a fist fight? Come on man. How am I supposed to take Kang seriously after that?
This. Comic relief beats the mighty exiled Kang. And the final nail in the coffin was that post-credit scene with cartoonish pharaoh, sultan and robot Kang. Like the Citadel from Rick and Morty, just 100 times worse.
The main problem was ant-man was a side character in his own film he did not even beat kang he was getting beat up over and over by kang and would of lost but far left writers did not like a strong male role winning so in come strong female character Wasp to save ant-man and both together push him into a time thing and he disappears so not even a good death really. The main character of this film was the stronger smarter and all round better ant-mans daughter as i bet you she will be taking ant-mans spot soon and will be ant-women and even Kang in this film was so weak and crap and on Loki the villain is not scary or poses a threat really i guess if thanos and kang had a fight thanos will just kill him in seconds even with out the stones.
So it turns out that goofy looking picture of Modok I saw the other day *wasn't* a silly photoshop... just when I didn't think Disney could hit a new low with character design quality, they prove me wrong. Absolutely fascinating.
@Alejandro c All they had to do was lean into the uncanny valley of his appearance and just make the face look more monstrous than human. Why they let it just be a stretched out human face, I'll never know. It looks like a placeholder for something better that was forgotten to be put in during the editing stage.
All Disney/Marvel do anymore is remove the mystique & mystery from said ambiguously existential ideas that early MCU creativity handed to them. When the MCU was actually fun & new. I’d rather binge TCD videos than sit through another Marvel snorefest. To think how Disney got handed a potentially infinite cashcow & all they could think of doing with it is turning it into a hyper-boring vehicle for their hypocritical wokeist anti-ideologies. ….and comprehensively alienating the fanbase that once fed & nurtured the cashcow. 🤑
The fact that the creators replaced Scott’s daughter with a different person without letting the OG actress know and finding out about it on a SOCIAL MEDIA POST, was such a d*ck move and I honestly feel bad for the original actress.
And that actress was such a sweet and phenomenal person too. She captured Cassie's innocence and positivity so well and it would've been great to see her in the film. But nope, not only did Marvel kick her out like a bunch of assholes but they also replaced her character with an arrogant, self righteous know it all who goes on political activisim...
My favourite part has gotta be when they all get sucked into the machine which was talked about for 5 minutes as the way to see into the quantum realm, and then Cassie, THE INVENTOR OF THE MACHINE, decides to say “where are we?” WHERE TF DO YOU THINK YOU WENT LMAO
At this point this isn't even criticism, it's just ridicule of basic human behavior under stress, it's as if you expect that the characters are perfect machines that always react with facts and logic or something
Scott was in the quantum realm for 5 years and said it felt like 5 hours but Janet always kept saying she was in there for 30 years not once did she say time goes different down there
@@tricycloplox6698 nope, she warned him of a "time vortex" whatever the hell that means and of Tardigrades which are those little things that are said to be "immortal" So yes, she said word time but that's kinda it
It would have been better if Janet and Hank were researching the quantum realm, they recieve a distress call from Kang. They decide not to answer considering the risks. This gets a response from Scott who argues they should help. Cassie being the activist teen she is goes into the quantum realm with a stolen wasp suit. Scott and co realise this and go after her. They meet Kang who's ship is missing a mcguffin he needs to use his powers and ship. Kang tricks them into giving him the thing he needs. Then he proceeds to earth to cause destruction. Scott and co arrive and steals the mcguffin from Kang. Then Scott heroically sacrifices himself pushing Kang back into the quantum realm without the thing that gives him powers. Cassie, guilt ridden strives to be a hero in her father's place. How's that?
The thing about Ant-Man 1 was that originally Edgar Wright was on board to direct but let go due to 'creative differences'... but there's still stuff in the final film that feels very much like Edgar Wright, like the Thomas the Tank Engine battle is reminiscent of the model village fight at the end of Hot Fuzz, the physical comedy that comes from playing with things at scale. Luis' stories also feel like something from an Edgar Wright film. So even if he didn't stay on, it feels like Marvel kept some of his best ideas and they became the high points of the film.
Except for the quantum realm kang is now the “possibility storm kang” and we weren’t even sure if this kang was fully evil like the broader council of kangs. It’s entirely possible that scott did all of this to fight a future ally… which was just shoved into a device that makes multiple copies of him. How do we fight infinite kangs? Infinite kangs!
Best line in the movie, when the Paul Rudd character says: “A lot has happened today”. The writers want you to know they are self aware. (Yet that line hits like a painful reminder of the previous hour.) This movie was, in fact, simply a string of things happening, and without the string.
damn, you didn't have to call him the Paul Rudd character lmao the movie is literally named after him, but yeah I agree the movie is just things happening for no apparent reason
I like how they explained in the first movie about pym particles and the conservation of mass etc, and they threw all this out of the window. It didn't even survive the first movie.
I never understood why Kang, the smartest man in the multi-verse, was unable to create his own shrinking machine. I mean look at his city and technology. Looks like he had the means. Would that have just been to easy?
Thats easy he is not a woman in the m she u..He needed a woman to help him..Janet left him so his brain stop working..Everybody can't have the brain of a teenager girl making quantum realm technology in a garage out of thin air
I watched this movie on an 8 hour flight to London. Thank God they also had Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade so I could revitalize the spark of joy afterwards.
@@johncarldelossantos7345 ikr, and it's not like they couldn't have had him tag along in the quantum realm, he could have made this movie so much more enjoyable to watch
Agreed. I was shocked at how good that was in this day and age. It tore down the character yes, but where it excelled was building him back up and allowing HIM to be the hero. Sad how rare that is in these dark times where passing ruffians can say nee at will to old ladies.
@@ninjapirate47 what do you mean by saying it torn down the character? Puss? The idea was to make him more mature and less self-absorbed. We didn't have the time to see how this new Puss is gonna act, but I think he'll be as fun and charismatic as the old one, but his confidence will be grounded on his friends and he'll be more humble towards risks and death.
And how virtually no time passed on the real world when the got back... Kind of weird how that was a major plot device at the end of and man 2, leading up to endgame...
Not to mention they recasted Cassie, and they didn’t even tell the actress who played the older Cassie in endgame that she was recasted…. For all their talk about “girl power” and “women’s rights”, they seem really quick to recast a woman who they deemed “not experienced enough actress (but really it’s because she’s not pretty enough)”, and don’t even have the balls to pick up the phone and tell the original actress that she was recasted….
@@memeview2566 bruh I know right, not gating her just she really use one face position even outside of this movie, like Dream face reveal, eyes up, face down
Dang you still watching Marvel after phase 4 shit phase? You got guts man. I dipped after endgame because I don’t really see the point in continuing when most of the good heroes are dead or retired.
You know a movie is bad when it ends like a family guy episode. Right back to normal like nothing happened with the characters learning some kind of lesson that will never be mentioned again.
Apparently Kang was "strong enough" to stop all his other selves and the stoppage of Kang was the purpose of this movie. Yet the villanous nature he shows here is completely unnecessary and even weird. Also, if someone who can stop such a danger in the future is bested by even antman, it's not a huge threat..
Ok but, everything that happened, happened in another universe;’so obviously it wouldn’t effect the normal day to day life of everyone. But it affected THEM, and they also set up a huge bad guy that will not take advantage of this
Honestly, since the 90’s I have felt that the fundamental problem with serialized comic book heroes is that their stories never end. Writers have to dream up imaginative new stories LONG after the characters have reached a good point to end. And since comic writers are constantly attempting to top themselves, they just wander into greater and greater extremes, without any of it really meaning anything. Marvel movies have started succumbing to that fate. There will never be an end, until they are forced to stop telling stories because financial ruin doesn’t allow them to continue.
@@GambitsEnd You are basically describing DragonBall now. Story should have ended with DragonBallZ years ago. Now Goku needs a new God Super Saiyan 3000 power up to become the strongest being in the Galaxy, then Universe, then Multiverse then whatever a collection of 100,000 Multiverses are called.
I saw this in the theater yesterday with my daughter. My main reaction was boredom and I fell asleep for the first time ever in a movie. When I woke up my feeling was more sadness at the end of a nap than concern I missed some key in a good story. True crap.
Damn I'm late the party, I'm 15 minutes into this thing and this video and all the comments are making me not want to watch it. I remember the first and one of the only movies I fell asleep during, It was Donnie Darko 2 with that loser form that show my ex girlfriend used to watch... What was it? Oh yeah Gossip Girl or something. Anyway, thanks everyone for the heads up, I'll probably look for something else to watch here in a minute
The weirdest part about the whole plot was... the plot. So you have this inter dimensional traveler who says that his other versions have joined forces to take over the multiverse, and that he was exiled from space and time because he sought to destroy the citadel of ricks. So like... this movie is basically about ant man stopping the only force capable of defending against a multiversal destruction. The entire time I was just completely confused as to how he was the bad guy or why they wanted to stop him. Literally the first introduction of him was him promising to never harm our main universe, so like... What the hell is this movie even about aside from ant man knowingly dooming all universes for no reason whatso ever... Well, I guess his daughter did say she was sad about some small quantum tribe have their resources taken away, so like, that weird D plot that the movie doesnt even remotely explore is worthy of destruction of all reality I guess.
@@jamesbizs Not saying he's a hero, but he defected from a united force of every other kang that are seeking to conquer ALL universes. The Kang in ant man straight up said he wouldn't destroy our universe, and he's an enemy of an immeasurably larger threat. He's not the good guy, but he's the only one with any ability whats so ever to defend against the army of Kangs seeking to destroying the entire multiverse. Now if the citadel of ricks wasn't something he explicitly warned about, then sure, destroy him, but the fact that he was exiled by the most powerful thing in existence and we know about that things plans, he's literally the only hope to ever possibly stop them. So yea, maybe not a hero, but he's certainly a weapon, the only weapon, so perhaps killing him is not the greatest idea.
Wow that actually sucks. His daughter was so likable in the first Antman movie and in Endgame. But it appears having a girl who just wants to help her dad out after he was gone for years is too hard to do.
She had way too much camera time just too talk or complain. Ands it’s like Scott has nothing too do with his daughters life because he literally knows nothing about her in this movie.
Absolutely true. I watched thirteen movies, up to Infinity/End Game. None after that. Why would I? It ended there. The infinity stones were present throughout as the heroes found their powers and fought the threats the stones created, until Thanos had them all and the final confrontation happened. It was wrapped all wrapped up. Just like I only watched the first Matrix movie. There was a guy who was hugely grateful for me seeing only the first one, because he wanted at least one person to be able to enjoy not having seen the rest.
@@trequor one movie over and over? I'd like to hear your case. Measure Taxi Driver vs The Wolf of Wall Street or The Departed vs Silence. Self-inflicted suffering is the only through-line I see, but that's just drama at its core. Anything else?
@@Grasslander I agree with everything you said except only watching the first Matrix movie lol. If that’s not your cup of tea so be it, but if you liked the first one I highly recommend watching Reloaded and Revolutions as it tells the complete story and is actually really good. The last movie sucked honestly, not even worth watching
The difference is that before, they used to be fun, relatively cohesive theme parks. Now, they're just broken down, rotting and decrepit hollow shells of what they used to be.
It more applies to Avatar anyway. But yes, the MCU has long ceased having any redemptive value, as cinema or theme park ride or any other possible label.
@Lucifer Morningstar 🅥 Hey Lucy. You owe me several trillion in gold. I'll be taking it out of your wings you pigeon, and running you through with a spit to turn you over a fire.
After thinking back on the scenes where Janet helped Kang rebuild his power source, which she then destroyed, I realized there's a massive plot hole. A plot hole so massive, it breaks the entirety of Phases 3 and 4 of the MCU. (and a little bit of Phase 2) What is this plot hole? The devices Janet uses to destroy Kang's power source are blue Pym particle disks. The blue ones. The ones that make you grow instead of shrink. Disks, which she could use in her Wasp suit to escape the Quantum Realm in the blink of an eye. She could have gotten back to Earth as soon as she destroyed the ICBM in the first movie. Conaidering this, events in Phases 2, 3 and 4 would have played out drastically different. For example, the second Ant Man movie would literally never have happened, as the objective in that is to rescue Janet from the Quantum Realm.
@@Travvv94 Everyone thinks their taste in movies is supreme. I guarantee a majority of these “critics” couldn’t make a good film themselves if their lives depended on it. I didn’t quite care for this one but some of these people are stuck in their echo chambers, so quick to dismiss others hard work with nothing under their belts aside from watching movies and thinking they know everything about the process.
To be honest, I watched Endgame out of sheer obligation. After that, I don't see why keep watching Marvel movies... Literally. I don't see anything on screen that I want to pay for.
The MCU needs a personal threat, like Kraven the hunter pursuing someone or their family. Not world-ending superpowers, just personal stakes and some well-choreographed fight scenes
@@foxboy6145 it's hard to outdo or even match the build up to Thanos, especially with the levels of power now established. But make some heist or detectice type story where they have to figure it out, but not with super/magic technology. Just a puzzle/detective story with some superpowers on the side
I really enjoy how Hank spent years developing the shrinking tech with massive government backing, a team of scientists, and his own advanced laboratory only to be shown up by a child who can manipulate quantum space time in a few weeks with no money, no education, and no equipment. Cuz she's just better at everything cuz she's better.
It's basically exactly the same as what they did with Ironheart - a college kid (girl, of course; black, of course) with no technical experience, equipment, training, money or background can reproduce everything that Tony Stark built using an entire billion dollar company and teams of engineers plus decades of research...
It truly starts to become comedic just how many young people in this universe are world-changing geniuses. The MCU was always formulaic but they’re no longer even trying.
@@jonathankemp8496 this. Imagine if in the first Iron Man when he walks out of that cave in his first suit, he does it wearing his full nanotech suit...that's pretty much Riri. No struggle, no purpose, no development. Just a super smart kid who always wins because she's too awesome
@@swimdude2011bw And remember, he actually spends time DESIGNING the suit and has to build the arc reactor from dis-assembled Stark Industry weapons the bad guys supply him with. Then he builds the (seriously clunky) suit around the prototype arc-reactor from scrap metal using dodgy welds and with basic weapons and tech. In fairness, the 'suit' Riri Williams builds she has assistance from Wakanda, but she still has zero experience and is just gifted with everything. Ant-Man's daughter similarly (having mysteriously aged 10 years and become an entitled scum sucker as well as a genius) can now rabble-rouse and build better tech than Hank Pym.
Let’s be real, the only reason MODOK was even in this was “Kang needs an underling” then they threw a dart at a wall with pictures of “people the nerds like” and it just happened to land on MODOK
I really do hate modern movies. I am totally done with them. I know "you gotta dig. There are plenty of good ones out there". I hear ya. But that aint working for me. Just like modern music, its just not there
"It's like some Jakey from the East End of Glasgow claiming to have invented a functional time machine after drinking a pint of brake fluid." This is a better film premise than Marvel + Disney seem to be able to come up with.
You may want to read Gallegher stories by Henry Kuttner - basically, the same premise. Nice and creative stories with the same formula that works every time and would work in about a dozen times more. Would make a nice mini series, actually.
It's not just that the subsequent movies were unnecessary, it's that they were unnecessary and insulting. If they marvelify the blade reboot, they'll have destroyed the last scrap of good will they had with me. If people were attached to Endgame (or in my case, the original Blade), there are clear high water marks by which to fail.
Allthough in endgame they did the mid timetravel thing but the soulsstone sacrifice, end fight, stark death and cptn america happy end was great, like really great.
You can hear the pain & suffering in it, like he had to watch it so that you don't have to, saving you from said pain & suffering. Not all heros wear capes, some drink copious amounts of liquor to quell the frustration of modernism...
Guy literally took one for the team seeing how many fans telling him to do a decent review of this utter trash... I'm afraid there's not enough "Hallelujah Alcohol" to make him happy at this point and at this rate, it might take a while before he/we could actually enjoy a decent movie (keep my fingers crossed for John Wick 4).
As a woman I do look at those "strong female characters" and am forever terrified at the possibility that I might sometimes talk or sound like them!! Makes me want to keep my mouth shut forever!!!
Seriously what kind of people are writing these characters lol.. dont they have any female relatives, friends, aquaintances as references for character depth, personalities etc.. feels like they are writing all of them under the basement or something
If fictional characters and the people that make sperg comments and videos about them terrify you and want to make you want to shut up forever... you honestly should at that point.
What you mean talking like a hoodrat, barely literate, clearly slept all the way thru language arts class--all thru their school career? Or so vocal one would mix up being at a restaurant with being in the monkey cage at the zoo? Or a combination of both peppered in with so much ignorance, so obvious they have never spent a day in school? Cuz that's happening kind of a lot
Girl here too and the problem is that they try to force it A LOT. If you want to normalise something, you have to act as if it had always been like that, which translates in doing it in a natural way. I remember in infinity war (was it in that? there are so many movies my head is a mess) how the girls werent that relevant or important for the plot development but the "all girls in" scene in the final fight was supposed to be the "girl power" representation in the story. Hell no. Thats not how it works, it just makes people more negative about it. Why? Because they try to force it in them. People only change their minds or get used to something if they dont feel like somebody decided for them. Make it natural, any realistic personality and dialogue can be as good and make a character strong. It's all about building characters properly, and sometimes subtle works better as a tool than bold or loud. There is a balance, they just dont care to find it.
I find hilarious that Cassie managed to rally the entire Quantum Realm into fighting against Kang, convinced a villain to turn into a good guy, and learn quantum mechanics in 20 seconds to open the portal back to Scott and hope. Not once did I think there was a sense of danger when everything was going well for the good guys
Cassie didn't learn quantum mechanics in 20 seconds. She had been sending stuff to the quantum realm for a while. That was the point of the satellites. To map the quantum realm so they could open a portal there
I’m still puzzled by how many movies phase 4 had, how much money was cut from making these films, how much revenue was still lost, and Disney STILL says “yeah, phase 5 is a good move”
I would say part of the blame with that was the pandemic. I think things are picking up now revenue wise. Also regardless of quality, I am certain Guardians, Marvels, Captain America and Blade will print money for them
@@2RG_I’d be surprised if Marvels does well. Guardians 3 will be a hit, and frankly it’s the only upcoming MCU film I have any remote interest in watching. In 2014 when the first one was released it should have flopped, I and most MCU fans at that point hadn’t ever heard of them. But the movie was actually pretty great and won people over on a new set of characters. Marvel hasn’t had much luck lately with their new characters
@@andyn46 LOL their worst projects pull in $750 million... What everyone condiders a huge "flop" when it comes to Marvel, is what every single movie maker out there has wet dreams about making.
@@zomebody5529 Because there are several instances of her being particularly unlikeable when discussing her character/the movie. Watch the interview of her with Chris Hemsworth and Don Cheadle.
@Zomebody I'm absolutely not "bullying" anyone. That interview she gave was of her own free will, the callousness she displays is all her doing, completely unscripted, and not in a movie setting, so your "defence" here doesn't hold much.
My biggest issue with Antman was them hinting at Kang for the first hour , no tension or investment because they didn't establish the villain the entire movie
Kangs motivation should’ve been bringing back galactus. And that’s why the other Kangs Banished Him And at the End of the Movie Everyone would have died.
I love how the quantum realm in the first film was a seemingly endless void of geometric shapes and now its Star Wars planet
Yeah it makes zero sense. It’s hard enough to believe that anyone could “travel” to the quantum world, but at least Ant Man had a bullshit suit with air supply that keeps him in a suitable environment. But I guess now people can just hang out there, breathe “air”, and apparently have Star Wars bars. So stupid.
It's so dumb. It was never supposed to be a world with life, it's a sort of dimension that will be nothing like our normal sized reality
LOL, exactly! The bar, in particular, tried too hard to be the Star Wars cantina.
Well I mean its comic/movie fiction logic. I interpreted the Quantum Realm as an entirely new universe. I think there's this common theory that if you shrink far enough, you'll find yourself in a "smaller" universe. Which could be interpreted the same if you somehow grow big enough you'll find yourself in another "bigger" universe.
But I do prefer when the Quantum Realm wasn't full of life and was more of a mysterious limbo.
That was something strange and mysterious, which made it interesting and something that you remember when shown. Same with the tesseract in Interstellar.
At this point I'm more interested in MCU reviews than the actual movies
weirdly my interest in the mcu ended after infinity war.
or have no interest
I agree lol
Fr, Drinker is actually funny unlike the new releases
Yep. Haven't watched a Marvel movie in the theaters since Endgame. And I only skimmed that last Spider-Man movie on streaming pretty quickly.
I liked that Cassie was just a normal girl before. It made it so much more impactful that her dad got drawn into this whole superhero crap. I would have much rather seen someone who was just brought along for the ride , who is afraid of losing her father again after the Blip, and is trying to get to know him all over again.
…Buuuuut nope she’s gotta be another genius girl boss.
I heard in the next one she throws a 273 yard TD to Mahomes to win the Superbowl with 1 second left on the clock. The story covers how she beat him out in camp, and he switched to tight end because he wanted to play for such an inspiring leader.
Evil whyte man, Tom Brady is the villain, but he has a redemption arc after the final siren, realising she is the REAL goat, and proclaiming her as such, publicly.
She also cures cancer at half time by funnelling it ALL into Trump, then launching him into the sun.
Holy shyt i just got bored listening to the review
@@yaboyfrresh I slept through Ant Man 3, review was just, as Homelander says "perrfect"
Most awesomest comment EVAR! Hahaaa! :-D
Oh, come on. They did not need to homogenize Cassie into being another Ironheart or Ms. Marvel! At least Kamala Khan - Ms. Marvel had a positive, uniquely entertaining energy about her instead of Cassie acting like a discount Karli Morgenthau without the violent flag-smashing who preaches to the superheroes about helping homeless people. Girl bosses do not sell as well as Disney thinks they do, especially when they are this poorly developed and thought-out and cookie-cutter. You can not just scream "representation" and let that be the end of your efforts to write a smart female character whose only flaw is being too powerful or too insufferable. That is how HBOmax got itself stuck with 💩like Velma, when Warner Brothers Discovery was not wise enough to Batgirl it into oblivion like they did with Scoob! Holiday Haunt, Scooby-Doo and Krypto Too, and a whole bunch of other Scooby-Doo projects that WBD on a dime decided were just not worth the risk to sell on HBOmax...because they were too good to generate as many hate-watchers as Velma, even though there are plenty of positive Scooby-Doo fans who would gladly pay HBOmax good money to watch all of those things. Why the fork would WBD and HBOmax stake everything Scooby-Doo on Velma, this disrespectful, bizarro product of nothing but negative nostalgia? April 21, 2023, 12:03pm
Anyone think it was weird how Scott saying his daughter needs to stop going to jail was made out to be a bad thing by his family? Lol
Like a stupid joke… like he was the joke??? (*for trying+attempting to be @GOOD MANLY+FATHER!!!) the joke was on him & going to jail is UBER KEWL 💯
Yeah…but….the patriarchy…
The villains desperately trying to destroy this universe are the real heroes here.
this is the one right here lol
Maybe not so different from the real world after all.
😂
Iike how madara was trying to save us from bourto
Thanos was right
Remember when the Winter Soldier was built up across three films and the careful story telling to turn him into a hero? Remember how Spider-Man was re-introduced to everyone? Remember how carefully laid the plans were for Thanos? Yep, neither do the head honchos at Disney.
When Cassie shit on Scott because he never done anything when he already returning half of universe people. I know Thanos was right, MCU better die with dignity
Remember when multiverses and variants were displayed in Endgame? Remember the entire show Loki? Or Spider-Man No-Way-Home? Or latest Dr. Strange?
I guess you don’t remember either.
@@percypercerton2125 Yeah the problem with those (minus Loki, NWH and Endgame) is that they're shit.
@@ThatOneGuyYouSawAMonthAgo9576 not relevant to topic. Contention was Ant Man 3 was a plot from an underdeveloped series of sources, and it’s not.
When the heck was the Winter Soldier a hero? And what build up for him? He was barely there in the tripe that was named after him. He was a prize in Civil War. And... that's about it. Like honestly if you think he had build up or is a hero you probably ingest far too much fandom.
One thing I am beginning to notice with more recent Marvel releases is that the threat continuously comes not from the villain itself but that the protagonists just makes a stupid mistake that puts him or her and the others all in jeopardy. All of this just boils down to simple fact that screenwriters can't think of anything narratively meaningful and so all they can do is to have the characters create a problem in order to have them solve it. Genius writing.
Exactly like the new avatar that's still making all the money.
No way home in a nutshell. That entire turd of a film wouldn't even have happened if the writers gave Peter or Strange an ounce of brain power. Seeing all these characters deemed as 'geniuses' and then witnessing them make obvious mistakes just makes me cringe.
seems like they cant write main characters anymore
@@chocochib9913 HISHE moment
I said this exact thing. They should call the entire series “Well-Intentioned White People K*ll The Marvel Universe.”
The fact that they replaced Cassie’s actress from endgame with one that couldn’t act is INSANE to me
From what I read they said the original actress didn’t look old enough for the time period that this movie takes place in.
Nepotism.
@@BeccasaurousRex270 So they took the criticism of Cassie aging up way more than she should, and made her even older?
Weird thing is I remember this actress from Detective Pikachu and she was actually decent in that.
@@gamemediafan1714 Her father is a producer who worked on Spider-Man:Far from Home, which also happened to have the same casting director which worked on this movie. Hollywood is just about connections, not talent.
Cassie is smart enough to build a freaking Quantum radio but dumb enough to not appreciate her father's heroism
The Cassie we remember would never say anything mean and disrespectful to her own father.
disney represents the gen z teens in mcu. disney wants thier PRINCESSES wearing PLOT ARMOR to be beloved by gen z. you may even notice every strong man dying in the mcu (kang) defeated by women. disney sucks.
There are two types of intelligence and they dont get along very well
@@liamphibia To be fair, the Cassie we remember has grown up to be a teenager in which you know how teenager works. That being said, it doesn't justify her annoying behaviour either especially that she and her dad is in the middle of nowhere
Tbh it's teenager 101. We were all like that.
Props to Cassie's actress for having only one emotion on her face throughout the entire movie.
Yeah amber heard is a terrible actress
YESS DUDE. She was so bad. Get someone who can act. To her defense it was in front of a green screen the whole time
bring back the original actress.
smug
yes, because that was the glaring issue lmao
I love how these citizens of the Quantum Realm under Kang's ironfist rule all of a sudden found the courage to rebel at the tower solely because Cassie the activist took ownership of the Zoom call
🤣
I like how Modok looks exactly like the Humpty dumpty character in Puss in Boots.
Totally didn't rip off Kino's speech from Cassian lmao
Very much like the "Minuses are made up!" scene: ua-cam.com/video/6KvwokFpbUE/v-deo.html
@@jonnyshanon2103 The Kinder Egg dude was scarier.
The first 15 mins of this movie summarises the current state of the MCU. Paul Lang is enjoying life, he is an celebrated author and is attending book signings. Whilst reading a particularly inspiring excerpt to a group of children he is contacted by the police. It turns out his 14yo daughter has been arrested. He quickly cuts the book signing short and rushes to the police station to be met by his insufferable, unapologetic daughter. She disrespects him repeatedly along with the police. On the way home he voices his displeasure and tells her not to be arrested again. He is then ganged up on by his daughter and gf. He is shamed for attempting to parent his own child, for ‘telling his daughter what to do’. When they arrive home they are enjoying pizza. Paul tries to get support from other family members who inform him that his daughter has been arrested before and that they never told him. Also that his daughter has been engaged in dangerous experiments behind his back. His thoughts and opinions dismissed and ridiculed.
Wow, what fantastic messaging Disney! I have never witnessed such a thorough emasculation of a man in my life. It’s surprising Paul Langford isn’t suicidal. Is this really the kind of message you want to teach young women?
Definitely wasn't my favorite part of the movie, that's for sure 🙄
Yep - because of course in the modern world kids don't need no stinking parenting - they know it all!
Frrr. Every time she opens her mouth and starts spewing out politics, I lose 10 brain cells each time
This is why you SLAP respect and obedience into kids when they are young so you don't end up with disrespectful, insufferable little assholes and bitches.
Don't we all just wish Logan Roy was available to say F--- Off, Disney and be done with those twerps?
The idea that AI is writing these plots seems more & more believable.
Not really, with an AI it would probably be better
she hulk tried to warn us
AI took over US governance as well
Don’t insult AI like that they could write a way better story than this shite
@@bb5242 What does that have to do with a movie review?.... try to keep up with the others.
I like the part where Scott learns nothing, faces no personal consequences to his own life, doesn’t get conflicted with any ethical choice like the trailer suggested, does not get to do anything particularly heroic and gets to continue living his life as if nothing happened.
Also loved the constant amount of Deux ex machina, exposition and plot contrivances scattered all throughout the movie. 10/10
I mean he would have if he knew about Kang's past but I guess they wanted to skip that. I will play the devil's advocate and say they at least made him do heroic stuff without getting shafted like in other movies.
Man if they would’ve made the movie how the trailer looked I would’ve walked out from the unoriginality. Trailer looked he was regretting missing a time that happened in the past so he was going to fix it. WE JUST GOT THAT WITH SPIDER-MAN lol was happy that skipped predictable plots. at this point it’s not Marvel it’s y’all and group think.
@@adonislavale8283 Because Ant man 3 plot is unpredictable right? A big bad guy wants to end the world and then the good guys win. That’s not predictable?
If ant man had gotten trapped in the quantum realm due to him trying to keep Kang i’m there, that would have been less predictable than the happy ending we saw coming from the beginning. And it would have make us care for Cassie losing her father. Instead nothing of weight happens, no consequences nothing.
Movies are so lazy now the plot contrivance has become the entire plot!
@@prestigiorebelde Which would have been close to what happen to him from a comic... but I guess they decided not to because that's not safe to do. Like man...
The fact that antman was upstaged by his daughter, girlfriend and girlfriend's mother!
Definitely a Disney priduction
To make it worse, his mother in law omitted about her knowledge about Kang from everyone which put the whole multiverse in danger but she didn’t get chastised like Scott did.
And Don't Be A Dick Darren! MODOK "I'm an Acenger!" Lol insert... Are You Serious?
M-she-U
Each new Ant-Man movie seems to drift further from the idea that the normal world is a completely different and fantastical place when viewed from a miniaturized perspective. That gave the first movie a lot of charm and a distinctively grounded feel that has completely disappeared by this point
I completely agree, the Antman movies get worse and worse. I really liked the first movie, how it got creative when taking a character and shrinking him. I still remember him shrinking in the bathroom, running through door locks, and flying on Anthony. Such a wholesome and humorous movie.
The Wasp was decent, but I honestly can't remember anything about it. Literally the only scene I can remember is the post credit scene, where they got snapped. And this movie succeeded in making the Quantum Realm boring and lame.
The train set battle was peak XD
I think you summed it up perfectly.
The MCU is no longer an Event to experience, it is a Gig.
A series of repeated nonsense done over and over and over again till everyone has ‘seen this all before”, but the actor’s contracts force them to continue on into perpetuity.
It’s not something new anymore.
It’s a Gig. And as Scott Pilgrim’s band mate said ‘who cares if it’s selling out? A gig is a gig is a gig is a gig.”
Giggity
Maybe it's just me, but I felt this way at the second Avengers movie. I think Marvel movies are fun, but at least for me they became old extremely quickly. One every now and then is good fun, but I can't imagine seeing twenty of them.
Truly Weimar period of Western culture
I used to wait in line for Marvel movies. Now if I miss 1 on stream I'm not upset about jt anymore.
Get your goofy ahh out of here, 'an event to experience'. You talking like Marvel used to be seeing a Mozart concerto in real life. It was always fast blockbuster entertainment, now its fast and dumb
The new MCU movies after Endgame feel like those repeatable side quests you unlock after beating the main storyline, but are treated like important major events that you need to do or else the world ends or something.
"no, for reals, I need you to head over to Goldshire and get a wheel of cheese, or Thanos will return, or Palpatine, or something"
@@samblack5313 Lol, nail on the head
That's my issue with these movies. They already beat the big threat that they've been building to for 10 years. Now they have nowhere to go. It's the same with Star Wars. The prequels were building up to the Fall of the Republic and the Birth of the Empire. The original trilogy was about defeating the Empire. There is no good reason to have any movies after you've finished telling a story already. The best sequels are really just parts of a bigger overarching story. When you create a story that builds and resolves a problem in one movie, it is extremely hard to make a compelling sequel.
@@alpacawithouthat987 You are naïve if you thought the entire MCU was gonna end with endgame. This is one of the biggest franchises out there and there’s plenty of source material they can pull from.
@@alpacawithouthat987 Thanos is weak compared to what else is in the comics.
The only way for another huge infinity war type event on screen would be to get rid of basically everything in my opinion.
Iron man is dead, all the actors are in their 40s, by the time they built up the next villain, the avengers would be 15 - 20 years off their pension.
Introduce xmen and fantastic four, maybe reboot a few big names like spiderman, hulk, daredevil and thor and iron man.
10 year film saga that builds up doctor doom and galactus.
"Every teenage girl is a scientific megagenius that creates star-trek level technology, in their bedroom, in spare time... For fun" 😂
If we only saw that in real life happening...
Reminds me of Pacific Rim Uprising
Where a small advanced mech was built and piloted by a 13 year old girl
At this point every scientist is a joke. Even poor people are... Why are you poor just invent some in your bedroom...
And yet mechanical engineers, bio engineers, quantum physics experts, etc are all what gender?
@@TheKing-uu7jn She was like 18, I think
Do the writers really think that teenagers are so stuck up they’d hate their father after he died for 4 years trying to save the universe? If that happened to me I would appreciate them forever
Yeah, this movie is full of outlandish fantastical things, but the most unrealistic part by far is how terrible Cassie is to her father
modok with the mask actually looked scary and menacing with the voice but as soon as he took it off the entire theatre erupted in laughter
Which is exactly what Marvel wants you to do when introducing a menacing/challenging character into the story. Laugh. I think they think Marvel is like some shitty version of a copy/paste Medieval play where you just boo and hiss the villain and cheer whenever the hero pops on screen for any reason
That's usually what jokes do. Did anyone here ever read a comic with Modoc in it? He was always a joke. A bumbling side kick that despite being a huge head was a bumbling moron.
Do you guys just want to watch a gay porn with no jokes or women in it?
@@Whooooooaaamaaan u mad?
@@Whooooooaaamaaan But thats literally what modok is in the comics, he's a giant floating head who's appearance has been made fun of since his conception. They take advantage of the fact that theres literally no way they could translate Modok in a serious way, so they make fun of his looks rather than try to make his something he's not
The MCU writers think "comic book movie" means it should be satirical and funny because the word comic is in the description. Bunch of morons....
You hit the nail on the head when you said no one has their heart in it anymore. It’s so painfully obvious. At one point it was this glorious thing you could get excited about - you knew who everyone was, you knew something was coming, they brought everyone together for the first time in cinema history, they threw in a long game villain, they built the stakes, they delivered. It ended with End Game. That film was the culmination. The issue is Marvel doesn’t understand you don’t always want to be on holiday. You need time to miss it. They’re so scared people will forget about it or move on that they forgot quality ALWAYS wins out. Make something good and people will see it regardless of how much time has passed.
🎁🎁👆👆👆.
And even Endgame already suffered from Cpt. Marvel and that obnoxious cheese woman.
"obnoxious cheese woman" hahahaha 😆 😆 🤣 😂
"They brought together for the first time in cinema history..." That's a slightly ignorant statement, no offense. Pretty sure a large base of the theater crowd revisted The Rocky Horror Picture Show, and would all stand up and sing together some of the songs in it. The original Star Wars trilogy garnered multiple revisits to the theater too and was an unforgettable banning together of fans who would cosplay just to go to those movies. In recent history, Endgame is about the only thing going on, but people are more reserved than they were in the 70s and 80s. A lot of the audience flare is toned down and mostly kept in private groups. There's no shabang that makes people burst out of their social bubbles to expound their excitement to all around them. Endgame had a lot going on in terms of expectation, but, socially-speaking, it's 'just a movie' a lot of people like.
@@kyrolazioko4783 pretty sure he was saying “ everyone “ in the context of all of the characters, not actual moviegoers.
I miss the days when the first Avengers Infinity War trailer was released and the hype was insane. Going to the premiere of Infinity War in a fully packed movie theater was truly the peak of the MCU in my opinion.
Then endgame came out and completely shit all over that hype and excitement with that shit fest
Infinity war was the peak for me, endgame the beginning of the decline was seen.
You’re comparing infinity war that was built up since 2008 to a movie that’s barely getting started with Kang
Infinity war was the best one I thought Endgame was a massive pile of crap and it’s been straight trash ever since.
Agreed. Infinity war was my last positive memory of MCU, going to see Marvel films was an event back in those days. I don't even remember going to see Endgame.
Visually this movie was just too much.
yoo i watch your videos
Quantumania is just CGI p0rn on crack and steroids at the same time
Damn that coming from Benny himself
I actually had to leave the room. I do not have any sensitivities. It just made me feel…ick.
Like ur mom
Marvel back in the day: every character/hero has well defined characteristics, powers and flaws that don't usually overlap other heroes, resulting in several well ronded characters that can shine in specific situations, resulting in great stories where you need that one hero do to something.
Marvel now: eVeRy TeEnAgEr CaN cReAtE sTaRk TeCh In ThEiR hOmE.
And everyone has nanotech. Everyone can just think that they want their helmet gone, and POOF it's automatically stored. Want it back? POOF, it's back. I hate it!
One edit: every female character*
Star trek ?
Yo these teenagers can create the tardis from nothing
Get over it
@@JohnSmith-yd5wq cliche name and simple comment …you must be a bot
Everytime a movie trailer from Marvel comes out nowadays, comments are filled with “they are gonna fix the MCU with this one!” Then the movie is trash lol
I'm guessing they're in denial
Kinda gives off "This is our year!" football fan energy
It is such a shame though because the first Ant Man movie was actually great. It was going into the right direction. The second one wasn't that bad, but they did portray the ant man as an idiot. Even though he seemed quite clever and smart in the first movie. And now this? The images alone make it look bland and useless.
I legitimately believed that with this one though💀. It was introducing the main villian of the saga so i was sure they would make sure to deliver on that but ig having him basically killed off by mf ants is cool too
I loved it
I thought I was going crazy slowly watching less and less movies to the point where I don't even know what is out. So glad I am not alone here.
You are not alone. I watched every MCU movie with glee until I reached a point where I never watched another MCU movie with glee. They were doing a good job with Ant Man but of course, MCU. So, I will continue to not watch.
There’s many good films releasing , just not Mcu ones.
@@partybusexperiance3289 wtf are you even saying
My last movie was Arrival
Yep. I used to be so exited to watch a new marvel movie and now i lit dont care anymore.. Its not as good as it used to be.
“She looks like she gets her haircut in a vending machine” made my choke on my food 🤣🤣🤣
Talk me about it. Hope's hairdoo in the first Ant Man made her so cute, but this shaggy shit she has in Quantumanalia makes her look like an insufferable and unpleasant high school teacher.
Couldn’t have her looking pretty (*despite being EVANGELINE LILY
"after drinking a pint of brake fluid."
"made my choke on my food"
Then stop getting it from a vending machine.
I love the fact that Kang has millions of years of advanced technology he was able to bring into the quantum realm and yet his minions still use the old hackable 4-digit pin code you get in ATMs as a security feature to get his command center up and running.
Thanks for over-thinking it
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Did I miss something from the plot? I don't recall him bringing millions of years of advanced technology into the quantum realm.
I thought he was exiled there and developed the technology / community afterwards. All he had with him was the ship.
Not saying that this is much better, but it might explain the lack of consistent resources that you are referring to.
@@FuntGrunt Catwoman when asked why the people in the quatumworld couldn't stand against him, says that his technology is far superior and no match for what they had there.
The writers are like people in the 1960s predicting the year 2000
Trusting Disney is like forgiving a partner that has cheated on you a dozen times.
I don't trust Disney anymore. Top Gun Maverick beating Black Panther and Infinity War at the worldwide box office and The Batman having a richer, original story than anything Marvel and Disney put out was the wake up call I needed to get away from Disney. Hell, Guillermo Del Toro's Pinnochio had more detail in the characters and soul in the story and characters than Disney's soulless remake! Even Marcel the Shell and Bob's Burgers the Movie were sweeter than Turning Red or Strange World.
More like forgiving an abusive partner.
What was the last good movie by Marvel? No way home?
@@fynkozari9271Pretty much
Disney belongs to the streets
The Drinker's "GO AWAY NOW!" Had more emotion put in than anything we've seen Marvel try to do for the past couple of years.
i live for that lol
y’all just hate to hate😂moon knight had more emotion than anything I’d seen from any project in the past year
I legit got a bit of a shock from that... he sounds almost broken.
@@michaelpothoven1041 Seriously yeah!
Only once or twice before I (and others) have noticed him being more upset than usual with the ending, but this felt even worse than those times.
And I can understand. I think everybody here can.
Entertainment is dead. Long live the good old days and your DVD collection in the attic.
@What I don’t trust you. You’re just an evolved bot.
Michael Pena not being casted in this was a huge red flag to begin with 😂 I miss antman's OG team with polka dot man, T.i. and Pena.
They gave the other two movies (especially the first one) a lot of charm.
I can always get a good grasp on the movie's review based on Drinker's cadence in "gO aWaY NOW"
Ayo toast 👀🔥
He was in rare form with that this time lol. A very guttural hate
Lol yeah
Uh, but that line comes at the very end of the review when we already have a "good grasp." So how can 219 people agree with your inane comment? Group think. Where the term "sheep" got it's new meaning.
he was quite a bit more mad this time around
Not gonna lie, the first Antman was one of my favorite MCU films with the reason being Antman wasn't a millionaire or genius scientist. He was just a guy on parole that worked at a fast-food place & just wanted to see his family again...
Hell yeah! I totally agree! The first one was such a good movie.
And then got a suit from a millionaire biotechnology scientist that basically created time travel and the bending of time and space.
It's actually more realistic that batman would exist or Tony stark than ant man.
@@1stAmendmentorDie1776 it is not supposed to be realistic, Ant Man 1 was appreciated because Scott Lang was a broken man, who was somehow trying to fix his life and ends up being a superhero. In this movie the Sheroes are good at almost everything and the virtue signalling has ruined what could be a proper story line setup, sth like Iron Man 3
@@anonymouslund why is there an abbreviation for the word something thats the dumbest thing ivve ever seen
Yeah that was its appeal. It wasn’t that great though, it fell to the usual marvel formula quite a lot but the premise truly is different.
But even stripping that away makes it so much worse
It’s crazy to realize that a movie review is more entertaining than the actual movie
Well at least u get to watch on a huge screen projector. 3d?
nah
Nah. Crazy part was Drinker was not joking when he said 'called him a d!ck' to convince MODOK to switch sides. Had I not seen the movie (boring, like a kid's saturday morning cartoon) I would have thought that an exaggeration. It literally happened.
Too late. I already hate modern movies. That train left the station around 2005
You guys hating for no reason. It was a great movie. In post credits a variant of Kang meets Ant-Man and says, "I am Kang!" Ant-Man looks at him and asks, "Kang? Have I killed you before?" Still gives me chills!!
I remember reading a comment regarding Cassie, and how she could've been handled better than what we got in Ant-Man 3. Long story short, the person who wrote it described making her into a character dealing with severe abandonment issues, which would make sense given The Snap and what happened to Scott and most likely her mother & step-father. She thinly hides it under the guise of being your typical high school girl, who does well enough in school and talks about boys & social media stuff -- but underneath all of that, she's scared of losing Scott and is at times a bit clingy.
I mean, I'd rather have abandonment issues & possible separation anxiety than the unrealistic, genius-savant, girl-boss activist in the film. Oh, and Emma Fuhrman should've been given an f-ing chance to prove herself!
It's because every stand-alone movie now needs to have an Avengers level threat even though it doesn't need it.
It doesn't need it at all. I want to see a superhero movie where the hero is just doing everyday hero stuff with no big baddy
Exactly. When Batman is with the Justice League he deals with planetary level threats. By himself he deals with all the villains in Gotham. Not every story needs to be about saving the universe because if they are there's no way to ever raise the stakes.
This is why I love Deadpool 1. Just a straightforward grudge fight plot. Sure they level a building, but it's not earth or even city level threat.
Indeed
“Scott you may have helped saved the universe with the Avengers, but what have you done lately?! You gotta do better Scott, you gotta step up!” -Scott’s Family
SMH 🤦♀️
Scott: “You realize that you will never be here to insult me in the first place if it wasn’t me who brought you back, right?”
That scene hurt my soul. Man missef his daughters life and is happy just living life.
@@nont18411 Scott didn't ask for their consent to be resurrected
Imagine saying that to a WWII veteran who saved the world from being taken over by the Nazis, because that's essentially what Scott is - apart from like, times a trillion.
The most jarring moment in this film is when Cassie Lang says "Yeah, you saved the universe, but what have you done SINCE that?!"
Legal murder.
Like that wasnt a big deal. It was just crazy!
Now that’s great writing! LOL
"What have you done for me lately" extrapolated to a moral value. Wow.
That’s what frustrates me about Hollywood writing nowadays, all teenagers, specially female, are more calm, mature, intelligent, observant, and self-assured than any adult in the room despite of their experience or achievements and without anything to show for except being or feeling neglected by their parents.
It’s sad how Michael Douglass was just the movies Uber driver.
And you expected anything more from Disney???
The fact that the father who helped saved the entire universe still isn't enough to the daughter is phenomenal. But that's expected of post Endgame M-She-U nowadays.
you clearly never had a teen
"m-she-u" is crazy lmfao
She never took any accountability for almost killing everybody
He's a white guy, so nothing he does will ever be good enough for Marvel writers.
@@marielizysurourcq well she’s an adult now but yeah
Having Hank being the one who built the device instead of Cassie would've made more damn sense
Edit: to anyone who has a problem with my comment let's agree to disagree and not make a big deal out of it
It's actually Cassie, not Cathy....but at this point, it really doesn't matter.
@@spideydew20 yeah I kind of forgot the whole movie started because of a science project lol. It doesn’t matter who built it because it was just a plot device to make the story happen.
Hold on, are you really, *seriously* debating the plot of this thing? Might as well go watch the paint dry
But he kinda did, they say that she did it with his help. It more so that Hank is being nice and giving her the credit even though it was a shared effort at best. Which is fine since its a sort of Grandfatherly thing to do, though I suppose you could say that the character Hank Pym would be more possessive over his designs, but in this situation I don't see that being a fair complaint. So I don't see it being a problem this time, though I'm sure they will make her too unrealistically smart later on in another movie despite him not being around to help.
@@GBDupree hence the original Ant-man playing second, third or fourth banana to the movie
It subverted my expectations by not killing Ant Man and having his teen daughter take his spot.
Bro I thought for sure Kang would have killed him in that final battle
That ending was atrocious in the grand scheme of things
Yeah that’s never happened.
This is just the first movie guys give it time.
Man honestly I think that ending still would have been better than what we got
It felt like Cassie is an apathetic psychopath. She never showed any emotions of love, fear, anger, etc. She actually never cared what happens to others or anything. She doesn't want to help anyone, she just want to show off something she's not. Also her hair and face looked good even after an intense battle. The only bearable character was Scott Lang in the entire movie
Sociapath
And the actor for Kang certainly gave it his all
She's a far cry from the lovable kid she was in the other two movies.
@@thebarbelllifestyle1478have you ever met a teenage girl?
Now that you mention it, I want to believe that this Cassie is actually just a Skrull. Would explain a LOT
One huge mistake I knew the writers would absolutely make is having Ant Man defeat Kang, even if temporary. Kang is supposed to be the next greatest threat rivaling or surpassing Thanos in scale. If Ant man can even slightly best, out-think, or outmaneuver Kang; it completely takes down his aura as a genuine threat. Imagine if during Captain America 2; Rogers and his crew had a small skirmish with Thanos and manages to get the best of him, even for only a moment, and temporally stops him. It would completely ruin his build-up, mystery, and proper strength of a villain worthy of this caliber. At BEST, Kang should have the Ant family running for their lives, with Kang completely immobilizing them just before the escape, and then deciding at the last moment to let the Ant family escape out of pity; like its his version of honoring the deal. This would keep Kang as a real threat, as he sees Ant Man as someone not even worth killing.
He was Kang n sheit 😂
Istg this is exactly what I was thinking. Like every character who speaks about Kang does so with fear in their eyes. They whisper his name in terror. And ANT MAN of all the superheros beats him (KILLS HIM) in a fist fight? Come on man.
How am I supposed to take Kang seriously after that?
This. Comic relief beats the mighty exiled Kang. And the final nail in the coffin was that post-credit scene with cartoonish pharaoh, sultan and robot Kang. Like the Citadel from Rick and Morty, just 100 times worse.
The main problem was ant-man was a side character in his own film he did not even beat kang he was getting beat up over and over by kang and would of lost but far left writers did not like a strong male role winning so in come strong female character Wasp to save ant-man and both together push him into a time thing and he disappears so not even a good death really.
The main character of this film was the stronger smarter and all round better ant-mans daughter as i bet you she will be taking ant-mans spot soon and will be ant-women and even Kang in this film was so weak and crap and on Loki the villain is not scary or poses a threat really i guess if thanos and kang had a fight thanos will just kill him in seconds even with out the stones.
There’s like a million Kangs. If he was such a threat level, they wouldn’t need to organize together to be a big threat. Right?????
So it turns out that goofy looking picture of Modok I saw the other day *wasn't* a silly photoshop... just when I didn't think Disney could hit a new low with character design quality, they prove me wrong. Absolutely fascinating.
they should have just went with a CGI computer screen face, just like the Hydra scientist guy... it would have worked better IMO.
@@MrSuckeragi right? Just make him look like does in the comics! It’s like if you made groot have vin diesels face 😂.
@Alejandro c All they had to do was lean into the uncanny valley of his appearance and just make the face look more monstrous than human. Why they let it just be a stretched out human face, I'll never know. It looks like a placeholder for something better that was forgotten to be put in during the editing stage.
@@hope-cat4894 it really does look photoshopped 😂
They should have gone with the cackling spaniard guy
The thing I liked about the first ant man was the quantum realm was existential and abstract. Thank you for saving me an hour and a half of my life.
Yeah, now it's just a generic dump with bars....??? That's the level of imagination they have today. Must be somewhere around zero Kelvin.
Yeah I'm puzzled; isn't it just a sub-atomic state of being in which you keep shrinking further and further? (If I remember correctly?)
@@marconotonfacebook3480 Hey, bars also worked for Star Wars, s why not in this sub-atomic state of existence, right?
All Disney/Marvel do anymore is remove the mystique & mystery from said ambiguously existential ideas that early MCU creativity handed to them. When the MCU was actually fun & new.
I’d rather binge TCD videos than sit through another Marvel snorefest. To think how Disney got handed a potentially infinite cashcow & all they could think of doing with it is turning it into a hyper-boring vehicle for their hypocritical wokeist anti-ideologies.
….and comprehensively alienating the fanbase that once fed & nurtured the cashcow. 🤑
Probably 2 and a half hours
10:20 That aged horribly.
😂
The fact that the creators replaced Scott’s daughter with a different person without letting the OG actress know and finding out about it on a SOCIAL MEDIA POST, was such a d*ck move and I honestly feel bad for the original actress.
That happened? This solidified my theory that they purposefully gave less screen time to Evangeline Lilly because of her stance on SNS.
@@RKNancy SNS?
And that actress was such a sweet and phenomenal person too. She captured Cassie's innocence and positivity so well and it would've been great to see her in the film. But nope, not only did Marvel kick her out like a bunch of assholes but they also replaced her character with an arrogant, self righteous know it all who goes on political activisim...
I'm a big fan of Kathryn Newton (based on her time on Supernatural) but I did not like her at all in the Cassie role.
Yeah that just shows how shitty marvel is
My favourite part has gotta be when they all get sucked into the machine which was talked about for 5 minutes as the way to see into the quantum realm, and then Cassie, THE INVENTOR OF THE MACHINE, decides to say “where are we?”
WHERE TF DO YOU THINK YOU WENT LMAO
Hey, she just knows how to build these machines, not what they do!!
😂😂😂
Big Gepetto energy
At this point this isn't even criticism, it's just ridicule of basic human behavior under stress, it's as if you expect that the characters are perfect machines that always react with facts and logic or something
@@nadarith1044 Considering how she's supposed to be a perfect mega genius wahmen, yes I expect logic and facts.
Scott was in the quantum realm for 5 years and said it felt like 5 hours but Janet always kept saying she was in there for 30 years not once did she say time goes different down there
Facts haven’t heard this before. Nice catch
I thought about the same thing.
So was it 30 hours?
Yeah she did. Didnt she warn scott in the after credits of antman 2?
@@tricycloplox6698 nope, she warned him of a "time vortex" whatever the hell that means and of Tardigrades which are those little things that are said to be "immortal"
So yes, she said word time but that's kinda it
It would have been better if Janet and Hank were researching the quantum realm, they recieve a distress call from Kang. They decide not to answer considering the risks. This gets a response from Scott who argues they should help. Cassie being the activist teen she is goes into the quantum realm with a stolen wasp suit. Scott and co realise this and go after her. They meet Kang who's ship is missing a mcguffin he needs to use his powers and ship. Kang tricks them into giving him the thing he needs. Then he proceeds to earth to cause destruction. Scott and co arrive and steals the mcguffin from Kang. Then Scott heroically sacrifices himself pushing Kang back into the quantum realm without the thing that gives him powers. Cassie, guilt ridden strives to be a hero in her father's place. How's that?
Tbh they should hire me considering how horrible their writing is😂. And I'm an amateur who's only self published a silly book online.
damn that's better than any marvel movie recently
The thing about Ant-Man 1 was that originally Edgar Wright was on board to direct but let go due to 'creative differences'... but there's still stuff in the final film that feels very much like Edgar Wright, like the Thomas the Tank Engine battle is reminiscent of the model village fight at the end of Hot Fuzz, the physical comedy that comes from playing with things at scale. Luis' stories also feel like something from an Edgar Wright film.
So even if he didn't stay on, it feels like Marvel kept some of his best ideas and they became the high points of the film.
Sounds like Disney.
The explanation his friend has of his story and all those cut scenes are totally Edgar Wright. He did it in Hot Fuzz, Sean of the Dead, and others.
Great points! Valid take
@@Aktzin2 Never thought of that before, but you're spot on. He used to do it in Spaced too.
@@Aktzin2 Luis' storytelling scenes were actually Reed's and Rudd's idea.
Basically the ending to this movie is like every sitcom in the 90's:
EVERYTHING GOES BACK TO NORMAL
Except for the quantum realm kang is now the “possibility storm kang” and we weren’t even sure if this kang was fully evil like the broader council of kangs. It’s entirely possible that scott did all of this to fight a future ally… which was just shoved into a device that makes multiple copies of him. How do we fight infinite kangs? Infinite kangs!
Oh nooo spoiler 😂
So the plot's a bloody circle. Nothing of consequence happens and it ends at the exact point it started?
damn this comment is def gonna bite u in the ass later that ending was def a setup
If you really think that you missed the entire point of Scott’s ending dialogue
Best line in the movie, when the Paul Rudd character says: “A lot has happened today”. The writers want you to know they are self aware. (Yet that line hits like a painful reminder of the previous hour.) This movie was, in fact, simply a string of things happening, and without the string.
😄
lampshading
damn, you didn't have to call him the Paul Rudd character lmao the movie is literally named after him, but yeah I agree the movie is just things happening for no apparent reason
😂😂
I like how they explained in the first movie about pym particles and the conservation of mass etc, and they threw all this out of the window. It didn't even survive the first movie.
Drinker’s “that’s all I’ve got for today, go away now” was filled with so much pain and misery this vid.
I think he may of give up. That was a blood curdling scream. Perhaps he took his jeremys razor and couldnt take anymore...
nah it will be fine
Who did you want to win at the end - the CGI blue light or the purple glow special effect?
Purple glow was awesome
@Azure Wolf because purple glow is exotic and rare blue light is cheap and it’s everywhere
:D
@Azure Wolf it’s true in fantastic four rise of silver surfer I was rooting for the color silver
Or the another blacki-dirtying character...
I never understood why Kang, the smartest man in the multi-verse, was unable to create his own shrinking machine. I mean look at his city and technology. Looks like he had the means. Would that have just been to easy?
Plot
He’s not a white teenage girl with zero life experience
That is a GREAT question, especially since he had Darren Cross who created similar technology to teh Pim Particles Kang was searching for...
Thats easy he is not a woman in the m she u..He needed a woman to help him..Janet left him so his brain stop working..Everybody can't have the brain of a teenager girl making quantum realm technology in a garage out of thin air
As much as I enjoyed Kang (and respect Johnathan Majors) that bugged the shit out of me throughout the movie.
I watched this movie on an 8 hour flight to London. Thank God they also had Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade so I could revitalize the spark of joy afterwards.
I can't believe they removed Michael Pena, who was literally the best part of the first two movies
I was furiously waiting for him to just show up and save the film. And it hurts, it didn't happen.
@@johncarldelossantos7345 ikr, and it's not like they couldn't have had him tag along in the quantum realm, he could have made this movie so much more enjoyable to watch
Right?? I really wanted him to sum up everything from Endgame until now
The only Penas allowed these days are female ones.
Did they remove him or did he not want to be in it? Either way I'm glad he dodged this bullet.
Man. I miss liking marvel movies. It felt good.
Last Marvel Movie I watched was The 2004 Spider man movie. DC Batman and Joker movies have far surpassed any live action marvel movie
It ended in Infinity war.
How do you know that they're superior then?
@@kevinclement1533 you dont need to gurgle shit to know its shit
How does it feel to live long enough to see all your favorite franchises go down in flames?
Puss in Boots: The Last Wish is a perfect example of how movies should be.
Agreed. I was shocked at how good that was in this day and age. It tore down the character yes, but where it excelled was building him back up and allowing HIM to be the hero. Sad how rare that is in these dark times where passing ruffians can say nee at will to old ladies.
@@ninjapirate47 what do you mean by saying it torn down the character? Puss? The idea was to make him more mature and less self-absorbed. We didn't have the time to see how this new Puss is gonna act, but I think he'll be as fun and charismatic as the old one, but his confidence will be grounded on his friends and he'll be more humble towards risks and death.
That and DC League of Super Pets. DC League of Super Pets one of the best movies of 2022.
Yes, this. Saw it today and thought it was fantastic.
Lmao yeah , I saw that with my kids this past weekend. It was surprisingly good
I was shocked how quickly they just get zapped into the Quantum Realm for no reason! 😄
And how virtually no time passed on the real world when the got back... Kind of weird how that was a major plot device at the end of and man 2, leading up to endgame...
Not to mention they recasted Cassie, and they didn’t even tell the actress who played the older Cassie in endgame that she was recasted…. For all their talk about “girl power” and “women’s rights”, they seem really quick to recast a woman who they deemed “not experienced enough actress (but really it’s because she’s not pretty enough)”, and don’t even have the balls to pick up the phone and tell the original actress that she was recasted….
And the new Cassie wasn't even a good actor 💀 she has 1 face the whole time
Yep. She found out on her own she looked up the cast for Ant-Man 3
@@memeview2566 bruh I know right, not gating her just she really use one face position even outside of this movie, like Dream face reveal, eyes up, face down
@@memeview2566 yep "connections" most likely.
In my opinion the previous actress was a lot more pretty than this one. But yeah what they did is cowardly and outright condescending.
This is supposed to be the big kick off for phase 5 but honestly this is like starting a football game by scoring a touchdown on your own team
L copy paste
@@jaqen9266 no u
Copied ☠️
There's no touchdowns in football.
You mean a “safety” which is football for “own goal”
I saw this with a friend of mine, after the movie ended we both looked at each other and agreed that this will be the last marvel movie we watch
God bless you.. so that we don't need to spend money on this shit
Dang you still watching Marvel after phase 4 shit phase? You got guts man. I dipped after endgame because I don’t really see the point in continuing when most of the good heroes are dead or retired.
@@KhanMann66 same
That was what I said after Thor: Ragnarok. It was such absolute tone deaf shit.
I saw Dr. Strange 2 and called it quits. Not getting anymore of my money.
You know a movie is bad when it ends like a family guy episode. Right back to normal like nothing happened with the characters learning some kind of lesson that will never be mentioned again.
Apparently Kang was "strong enough" to stop all his other selves and the stoppage of Kang was the purpose of this movie. Yet the villanous nature he shows here is completely unnecessary and even weird. Also, if someone who can stop such a danger in the future is bested by even antman, it's not a huge threat..
Ok but, everything that happened, happened in another universe;’so obviously it wouldn’t effect the normal day to day life of everyone. But it affected THEM, and they also set up a huge bad guy that will not take advantage of this
@@jamesbizs bro, you need English lessons first, before Marvel movies, and that too, phase 4 movies.
Honestly, since the 90’s I have felt that the fundamental problem with serialized comic book heroes is that their stories never end. Writers have to dream up imaginative new stories LONG after the characters have reached a good point to end. And since comic writers are constantly attempting to top themselves, they just wander into greater and greater extremes, without any of it really meaning anything.
Marvel movies have started succumbing to that fate. There will never be an end, until they are forced to stop telling stories because financial ruin doesn’t allow them to continue.
Bad writers only know how to escalate a story. Which is why games like World of Warcraft and movies like the MCU have shit stories.
@@GambitsEnd You are basically describing DragonBall now. Story should have ended with DragonBallZ years ago. Now Goku needs a new God Super Saiyan 3000 power up to become the strongest being in the Galaxy, then Universe, then Multiverse then whatever a collection of 100,000 Multiverses are called.
@@Dattebayo04 *Omniverse.
Exactly
At least the _Invincible_ comic has an ending
9:45 "and is about as funny as an episode of Velma". This doesn't compute. How exactly am I supposed to divide by zero again?
I saw this in the theater yesterday with my daughter. My main reaction was boredom and I fell asleep for the first time ever in a movie. When I woke up my feeling was more sadness at the end of a nap than concern I missed some key in a good story. True crap.
😂
I stopped going to the cinema a long time ago because they offer a good sleeping atmosphere and they wake me up. I mean, I paid.
I just fell asleep watching this bore of a film last night! I thought about finishing it tonight, but I really don't think the torture is worth it.
Damn I'm late the party, I'm 15 minutes into this thing and this video and all the comments are making me not want to watch it. I remember the first and one of the only movies I fell asleep during, It was Donnie Darko 2 with that loser form that show my ex girlfriend used to watch... What was it? Oh yeah Gossip Girl or something. Anyway, thanks everyone for the heads up, I'll probably look for something else to watch here in a minute
The weirdest part about the whole plot was... the plot. So you have this inter dimensional traveler who says that his other versions have joined forces to take over the multiverse, and that he was exiled from space and time because he sought to destroy the citadel of ricks. So like... this movie is basically about ant man stopping the only force capable of defending against a multiversal destruction. The entire time I was just completely confused as to how he was the bad guy or why they wanted to stop him. Literally the first introduction of him was him promising to never harm our main universe, so like... What the hell is this movie even about aside from ant man knowingly dooming all universes for no reason whatso ever... Well, I guess his daughter did say she was sad about some small quantum tribe have their resources taken away, so like, that weird D plot that the movie doesnt even remotely explore is worthy of destruction of all reality I guess.
Why am I thinking of western civilization when reading your comment? Lol
Kang is simply rick Sanchez 144p also the whole quantum universe felt like star wars 144p. They even had their stormtroopers.
He was killing off entire universes…. Yeah. Sure. Let’s just believe they guy that he’s a hero
@@jamesbizs Not saying he's a hero, but he defected from a united force of every other kang that are seeking to conquer ALL universes. The Kang in ant man straight up said he wouldn't destroy our universe, and he's an enemy of an immeasurably larger threat. He's not the good guy, but he's the only one with any ability whats so ever to defend against the army of Kangs seeking to destroying the entire multiverse. Now if the citadel of ricks wasn't something he explicitly warned about, then sure, destroy him, but the fact that he was exiled by the most powerful thing in existence and we know about that things plans, he's literally the only hope to ever possibly stop them. So yea, maybe not a hero, but he's certainly a weapon, the only weapon, so perhaps killing him is not the greatest idea.
Wow that actually sucks. His daughter was so likable in the first Antman movie and in Endgame. But it appears having a girl who just wants to help her dad out after he was gone for years is too hard to do.
I am legitimately pissed at Disney for what they did to her.
The writers clearly self inserting their family problems into the plot again.
She had way too much camera time just too talk or complain. Ands it’s like Scott has nothing too do with his daughters life because he literally knows nothing about her in this movie.
Plus I thought the other Actor in Endgame was Better than The Newest Film! Why did they get rid of Her? Cheers 🍻
@@DaNxYsmells007 well yeah… he literally missed 5 years of it and now she’s an adult living her own life. What do you expect?
Scorsese said it best. These movies are theme park rides. Eventually, you get off, and you don't look back.
Absolutely true. I watched thirteen movies, up to Infinity/End Game. None after that. Why would I? It ended there. The infinity stones were present throughout as the heroes found their powers and fought the threats the stones created, until Thanos had them all and the final confrontation happened. It was wrapped all wrapped up. Just like I only watched the first Matrix movie. There was a guy who was hugely grateful for me seeing only the first one, because he wanted at least one person to be able to enjoy not having seen the rest.
Nah, Scorcese is great but he only makes one movie over and over again. There is deeper meaning in the Marvel movies... at least there used to be
@@trequor one movie over and over? I'd like to hear your case. Measure Taxi Driver vs The Wolf of Wall Street or The Departed vs Silence. Self-inflicted suffering is the only through-line I see, but that's just drama at its core. Anything else?
@@koshobai Taxi Driver is different, but that was a long time ago now.
@@Grasslander I agree with everything you said except only watching the first Matrix movie lol. If that’s not your cup of tea so be it, but if you liked the first one I highly recommend watching Reloaded and Revolutions as it tells the complete story and is actually really good. The last movie sucked honestly, not even worth watching
The best thing about these movies is, that we get to know Tatiana better with each new installment.
Tatiana already more fleshed out than the average marvel girlboss..
@theglassespro4557 It would surely make for a short movie by now.
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10:18 that aged like milk 😬
Martin Scorsese's comparison of marvel movies to theme parks is looking like a great compliment nowadays
The difference is that before, they used to be fun, relatively cohesive theme parks. Now, they're just broken down, rotting and decrepit hollow shells of what they used to be.
I liked Ricky Gervais take on that "What's he doing hanging around theme parks? He's not big enough to go on any of the rides".
It more applies to Avatar anyway. But yes, the MCU has long ceased having any redemptive value, as cinema or theme park ride or any other possible label.
@Lucifer Morningstar 🅥 Hey Lucy. You owe me several trillion in gold. I'll be taking it out of your wings you pigeon, and running you through with a spit to turn you over a fire.
As someone who watched Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes as a kid, the idea of Ant Man and The Wasp going up against Kang is hilarious.
It's like if Captain America and Falcon went up against the Marquis of Death lol
Earth's Mightiest Heroes was a great series.
But this is not Avenger’s: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes or the comic.
Watch any future marvel project with expectations will only let you down
@do not f*** off
@@WhatAmIWatchingOfficial True, I just want to see the Marvel Zombies show and I'm pretty much done till Secret Wars.
After thinking back on the scenes where Janet helped Kang rebuild his power source, which she then destroyed, I realized there's a massive plot hole. A plot hole so massive, it breaks the entirety of Phases 3 and 4 of the MCU. (and a little bit of Phase 2)
What is this plot hole? The devices Janet uses to destroy Kang's power source are blue Pym particle disks. The blue ones. The ones that make you grow instead of shrink. Disks, which she could use in her Wasp suit to escape the Quantum Realm in the blink of an eye. She could have gotten back to Earth as soon as she destroyed the ICBM in the first movie.
Conaidering this, events in Phases 2, 3 and 4 would have played out drastically different. For example, the second Ant Man movie would literally never have happened, as the objective in that is to rescue Janet from the Quantum Realm.
Scott got lucky putting that disk on his belt in the first movie, technically he was supposed to be stuck going quantum but plot armor
Oh shit you're right.
As Walter White would say.. "You got me.." 😆 🤣
Wise observation
U don’t out grow the quantum realm tho… u navigate it once your small enough or Scott would have just grew big enough to smash the whole realm
The only thing I remember about this movie is the shrinking van and thinking “that would be handy!”
"Like eating a Big Mac for the 500th time..." the most succinct, amazing way to describe current Marvel content.
Still good, but tiresome
@@JPSimen *Still mid, but tiresome
@@Shockkings0714 *Still good
@@sirvilhelm3569 it’s not tho is it. It sucks
I thought so too
Let’s enjoy this guys, we’re living in the golden age of movie criticism.
It's gross. People pay to see a marvel movie and what they get everytime is a marvel movie. Since when did superhero films need to be sublime cinema
@@Travvv94 Everyone thinks their taste in movies is supreme. I guarantee a majority of these “critics” couldn’t make a good film themselves if their lives depended on it. I didn’t quite care for this one but some of these people are stuck in their echo chambers, so quick to dismiss others hard work with nothing under their belts aside from watching movies and thinking they know everything about the process.
Movie critics are as worthless as men having nipples.
This guys life must blow.
Are we though? This guy sure ain’t it.
the Cope in this reply section is strong!
Watching MCU after The Endgame feels like reading the credits after a movie ends.
To be honest, I watched Endgame out of sheer obligation. After that, I don't see why keep watching Marvel movies... Literally. I don't see anything on screen that I want to pay for.
Lmao
This.
It’s worse, it’s so much worse
For me, it's like some cash-grab dlc
“Haircut in a vending machine”. I’m using that!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The MCU needs a personal threat, like Kraven the hunter pursuing someone or their family. Not world-ending superpowers, just personal stakes and some well-choreographed fight scenes
That could work. I mean, you don't need to start off with a giant threat. Start small, then work your way up.
We can certainly dream
Like a good old fashioned revenge story. Or the simple westerns where a lone gunslinger would defend a town from a bunch of terrorising bandits.
@@foxboy6145 it's hard to outdo or even match the build up to Thanos, especially with the levels of power now established. But make some heist or detectice type story where they have to figure it out, but not with super/magic technology. Just a puzzle/detective story with some superpowers on the side
@@DownWithBureaucracy Who's the closest to Batman in the Marvel universe?
I really enjoy how Hank spent years developing the shrinking tech with massive government backing, a team of scientists, and his own advanced laboratory only to be shown up by a child who can manipulate quantum space time in a few weeks with no money, no education, and no equipment. Cuz she's just better at everything cuz she's better.
It's basically exactly the same as what they did with Ironheart - a college kid (girl, of course; black, of course) with no technical experience, equipment, training, money or background can reproduce everything that Tony Stark built using an entire billion dollar company and teams of engineers plus decades of research...
It truly starts to become comedic just how many young people in this universe are world-changing geniuses. The MCU was always formulaic but they’re no longer even trying.
@@jonathankemp8496 this. Imagine if in the first Iron Man when he walks out of that cave in his first suit, he does it wearing his full nanotech suit...that's pretty much Riri. No struggle, no purpose, no development. Just a super smart kid who always wins because she's too awesome
They clearly established that she used hanks personal work journals to learn everything she did and he was assisting her studys since the blip.
@@swimdude2011bw And remember, he actually spends time DESIGNING the suit and has to build the arc reactor from dis-assembled Stark Industry weapons the bad guys supply him with. Then he builds the (seriously clunky) suit around the prototype arc-reactor from scrap metal using dodgy welds and with basic weapons and tech.
In fairness, the 'suit' Riri Williams builds she has assistance from Wakanda, but she still has zero experience and is just gifted with everything.
Ant-Man's daughter similarly (having mysteriously aged 10 years and become an entitled scum sucker as well as a genius) can now rabble-rouse and build better tech than Hank Pym.
The "go away now" on this one was the best so far! I can really feel the exasperation in Drinkers voice. 10 out of 10.
"Go away NAHW!!!"
Bro if anything, man scared my ass off 💀
Let’s be real, the only reason MODOK was even in this was “Kang needs an underling” then they threw a dart at a wall with pictures of “people the nerds like” and it just happened to land on MODOK
I spend more time watching these awful companies fail than I do watching their content. Keep doing what you do, Drinker!
their failure brings me joy (it does)
I really do hate modern movies. I am totally done with them. I know "you gotta dig. There are plenty of good ones out there". I hear ya. But that aint working for me. Just like modern music, its just not there
Me too I don't watch most the movies
I hope they fail. They already are and it's glorious to witness.
Stopped watching years ago after I lost Hollywood hope. Nothing of worth was lost.
"It's like some Jakey from the East End of Glasgow claiming to have invented a functional time machine after drinking a pint of brake fluid." This is a better film premise than Marvel + Disney seem to be able to come up with.
You may want to read Gallegher stories by Henry Kuttner - basically, the same premise. Nice and creative stories with the same formula that works every time and would work in about a dozen times more. Would make a nice mini series, actually.
It's funny how we can genuinely pinpoint the EXACT moment the MCU should've ended.
Endgame?
@@Thegoatone23 Maybe not end, but a VERY long break. I do honestly want to see how they portray the XMen
It's not just that the subsequent movies were unnecessary, it's that they were unnecessary and insulting. If they marvelify the blade reboot, they'll have destroyed the last scrap of good will they had with me. If people were attached to Endgame (or in my case, the original Blade), there are clear high water marks by which to fail.
End of Infinity War (before the end credits)
Allthough in endgame they did the mid timetravel thing but the soulsstone sacrifice, end fight, stark death and cptn america happy end was great, like really great.
Why the angry “go away now”? That’s my favorite part of the video
You can hear the pain & suffering in it, like he had to watch it so that you don't have to, saving you from said pain & suffering. Not all heros wear capes, some drink copious amounts of liquor to quell the frustration of modernism...
He's fresh out the theater that's why 🥲
He's been getting angrier with almost every passing video unless he's pleasantly surprised. Can you blame him?
he does it every now and then
Guy literally took one for the team seeing how many fans telling him to do a decent review of this utter trash... I'm afraid there's not enough "Hallelujah Alcohol" to make him happy at this point and at this rate, it might take a while before he/we could actually enjoy a decent movie (keep my fingers crossed for John Wick 4).
As a woman I do look at those "strong female characters" and am forever terrified at the possibility that I might sometimes talk or sound like them!! Makes me want to keep my mouth shut forever!!!
Seriously what kind of people are writing these characters lol.. dont they have any female relatives, friends, aquaintances as references for character depth, personalities etc.. feels like they are writing all of them under the basement or something
If fictional characters and the people that make sperg comments and videos about them terrify you and want to make you want to shut up forever... you honestly should at that point.
What you mean talking like a hoodrat, barely literate, clearly slept all the way thru language arts class--all thru their school career? Or so vocal one would mix up being at a restaurant with being in the monkey cage at the zoo? Or a combination of both peppered in with so much ignorance, so obvious they have never spent a day in school? Cuz that's happening kind of a lot
Girl here too and the problem is that they try to force it A LOT. If you want to normalise something, you have to act as if it had always been like that, which translates in doing it in a natural way. I remember in infinity war (was it in that? there are so many movies my head is a mess) how the girls werent that relevant or important for the plot development but the "all girls in" scene in the final fight was supposed to be the "girl power" representation in the story. Hell no. Thats not how it works, it just makes people more negative about it. Why? Because they try to force it in them. People only change their minds or get used to something if they dont feel like somebody decided for them. Make it natural, any realistic personality and dialogue can be as good and make a character strong. It's all about building characters properly, and sometimes subtle works better as a tool than bold or loud. There is a balance, they just dont care to find it.
@@MikaiAnjthe only "females" those degenerate writers know, are either transgenders or kids they like to groom
I find hilarious that Cassie managed to rally the entire Quantum Realm into fighting against Kang, convinced a villain to turn into a good guy, and learn quantum mechanics in 20 seconds to open the portal back to Scott and hope. Not once did I think there was a sense of danger when everything was going well for the good guys
Cassie didn't learn quantum mechanics in 20 seconds. She had been sending stuff to the quantum realm for a while. That was the point of the satellites. To map the quantum realm so they could open a portal there
✨✨White girl magic✨✨
@@barfyman-dm6zx Don't make it a racist thing. Did you forget about Ironheart and Shuri?
@@barfyman-dm6zx- didnt think that bonehead comment through did you?
@@barfyman-dm6zx right because they only do that for white girls. Is this the only film you’ve seen?
“Looks like she gets her hair cut in a vending machine”. Too much 🤣
I’m still puzzled by how many movies phase 4 had, how much money was cut from making these films, how much revenue was still lost, and Disney STILL says “yeah, phase 5 is a good move”
I would say part of the blame with that was the pandemic. I think things are picking up now revenue wise. Also regardless of quality, I am certain Guardians, Marvels, Captain America and Blade will print money for them
@@2RG_I’d be surprised if Marvels does well. Guardians 3 will be a hit, and frankly it’s the only upcoming MCU film I have any remote interest in watching. In 2014 when the first one was released it should have flopped, I and most MCU fans at that point hadn’t ever heard of them. But the movie was actually pretty great and won people over on a new set of characters. Marvel hasn’t had much luck lately with their new characters
@@andyn46 LOL their worst projects pull in $750 million... What everyone condiders a huge "flop" when it comes to Marvel, is what every single movie maker out there has wet dreams about making.
You said it MCU fans not real marvel comic book reading fans, you movie people are annoying
@@ttrotary7 but they spend a shitton making it as well, so that "high grossing" barely breaks even, making it a flop
The "is that a personal attack or something" bit has become a timeless classic. I love that
I'm sure that when privacy will be involved in a video from The Drinker, we can expect a clip from South Park with Harry and Meghan.
Why do you guys bully Brie Larson for her character. She didn't write the character or the movie
@@zomebody5529 Because there are several instances of her being particularly unlikeable when discussing her character/the movie. Watch the interview of her with Chris Hemsworth and Don Cheadle.
I'm just hoping someone using the clip will follow up with "Yes. Yes it is."
@Zomebody I'm absolutely not "bullying" anyone. That interview she gave was of her own free will, the callousness she displays is all her doing, completely unscripted, and not in a movie setting, so your "defence" here doesn't hold much.
My biggest issue with Antman was them hinting at Kang for the first hour , no tension or investment because they didn't establish the villain the entire movie
Because they already did in Loki
I just realized that this is almost the exact same plot as recent times Star Trek 3. But with even more mary sue interjected into it.
Kangs motivation should’ve been bringing back galactus. And that’s why the other Kangs Banished Him And at the End of the Movie Everyone would have died.
@@Baseballe2 you mean that series that took away free will from every action from End Game to Iron Man?
@@1Card- damn that woulda been cool...
How did they kill Kang. He could squash them all with a finger movement.
They backed him up into a thing that was exploding and then it stopped exploding and sucked him inside it instead. It made no sense
Surprised none of them died.
They #metoo'd & cancelled the actor into oblivion, that's how😉.😅
my favorite part was when hank dropped the “sorry i’m late” while standing there looking like an absolute fool
Sorry i'm late it's been jungle out there I had to beat an old lady with a stick
@@PolishGod1234 Relatable, it's so difficult to live in today's society without crowbar.
@@PolishGod1234 BACK TO FORMULA
@@PolishGod1234 I’m something of a scientist myself
I thought he's gonna say something like "Yes meet my ants"