META MAGSORC 100k+ Parse One Bar PVE Oakensoul Build (Firesong DLC)
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Super easy build for a one bar magicka sorcerer. Includes a parse setup and a normal setup. This one has been the meta oakensoul dps build for several months at this point, and this is my setup for this type of character. linktr.ee/dvmpstr
For people wondering about off-balance and exploiter: In all of my testing, I have found that wrathful strikes outperforms exploiter both in parsing as well as in normal content. To proc off-balance with unstable wall of elements, the enemy must first be concussed (this comes from lightning staff attacks) and then a 7 second window into big damage will happen when paired with the exploiter perk. You can absolutely run exploiter and still pull big dps in this fashion, but wrathful strikes is a more reliable boost to damage across the board in my experience, and allows you to focus on spamming heavy attacks instead of having to constantly think about setting an enemy off-balance or wondering when one of your other party members will be casting something to set an enemy off balance. Just my two cents and one more way that I think this sort of build can be made more fun and passive for the non-sweatlords among us while remaining just as viable as the alternative setup!
Exactly what I have found on 21M and in content (trials and dungeon HMs). 👍
hey man what is entropic touch in your logs i copy this build but i dont have entropic touch in the logs ?
@@MrrTupacshakur That's the attacks from the volatile familiar if I am not mistaken!
@@dvmpstr thanks man much appreciated mine says volatile f so I was so confused what it was lol
@@MrrTupacshakur Probably just a weird setting or something on my end 😅
Been playing this one for months, and it’s super OP. I like one bar.
Good to get different takes on this build. I had never tried barbed trap using this build. I'll give that a go later today.
Thanks for that.
For me, the cool thing is, this build works on just about all classes.
I stash the gear in a chest and switch between toons when farming Vet Pledges. Sorc, Warden, DK, Necro, Templar.. all work just great with this exact build.
When I get in a PUG with a fake tank.. I've even been known to tank a few bosses with my 30K health / 20K resistances.
Great all around build.
Some people don't like to be super sweaty. Couldn't have said it better myself. I will hold down my left click and watch everything die WITH PRIDE!
Hey dvmpstr,
Thanks for the guide on this build, I’m currently following this set up at CP 520 and only have slimecraw and two more pieces to transmute.
I was able to hit 62K DPS and that’s with a few pieces of gear missing, don’t care for the recent changes ZOS has made recently I’ve found a build that works for me.
Keep it up dude, appreciate you 10/10 meme humour 😂
Much appreciated!! :)
@dvmpstr do you have any guides for stamblade? Playing with my wife who’s currently building up her stamblade :)
@@cynical9413 Nice! I don't have any build videos for stamblade, but it would essentially be very similar to the stam dk one that I did make a few months back. Something like all points into stamina, thief mundus, takeaway broth as food, and then 5x relequen/5x pillar of nirn (two daggers as weapons) with oakensoul and a slimecraw piece. For skills, I would probably use twisting path, surprise attack, merciless resolve, killer's blade, and barbed trap with incapacitating strike as an ultimate - and then for CP something like deadly aim/wrathful strikes/master-at-arms/backstabber + fortified/rejuvenation/bloody renewal/boundless vitality. I would do bloodthirsty jewelry, divine on all of the armor (all medium!), and then one nirnhorned dagger with flame and one charged dagger with poison.
Always room for making swaps in there to suit it to her playstyle!
Alternatively, I did go through the classes (pre Arcanist) and do videos on SOLO stam builds that are based on using 2H weapons. They would still work fine in a group setting, but they are definitely more geared towards solo content and more casual play rather than pulling big dps in sweaty group settings. :)
@@dvmpstrthanks for taking the time to reply, will bare this in mind!
Subbed for the dry British humour alone..
was using this for quite a while, i think 50% of the whole eu pc server been using it for quite sometime lol, i did some switching around with it though i use crystal weapon with it now due to the extra hit, reduced armor and minor prophecy for extra crit, on top of that also power overload.... was hitting 159k per tik with that, once of balance and you have your procs going 1st of course, but alot of fun haha
This is probably the only video I've seen that actually explains blue champion tree. Can you go over again the best in slot for parsing and best in slot for trials? That would be most appreciated 😀
For parse I would use weapons expert, backstabber, deadly aim, and wrathful strikes and hit the dummy from behind. Sometimes people use master at arms instead of deadly aim, but I think with these skills slotted I do more damage with deadly aim. If you're doing regular content you can get rid of backstabber and use fighting finesse instead since you won't be standing behind monsters very often.
@@dvmpstr hm, i tried this but dont get over 80k. Is the last 50 points in wrathful strikes that much a difference?
I can reliably hit 95-100k and I’ve tried a bunch of the blue cp. my best result was using exploiter, master at arms, deadly and weapon expert. I’m not at crit cap so on paper i feel like backstabber should be better but for some reason it’s not. Using the 4 i listed every parse is around 96-99 with the best ones barely being over 100. I have no idea why backstabber and finesse aren’t parsing better. Wrathful was only giving me around 94k. At the end of the day it honestly doesn’t feel like the blue cp matters much, the only thing that matters is that you have all 4 slotted at a full 5 points each. Which ones you choose won’t matter much as long as you make sure to use weapon expert
@@xgcdarkninja911 the reply from @mattctaylor23 is probably correct in that it probably isn't going to make a massive difference either way regarding some of the champion abilities, but the setup that i mentioned above is what worked best for me. the usual culprit for lower numbers (assuming all gear and morphs etc are correct) would just be practicing and tightening that rotation!
@@dvmpstr and the start. Cleaning up the beginning got me up to 103.4K using the same CP as you mentioned: Wrath Expert DAim Bkstab. I proc pets, walk up drop trap then dprey and GAtro. If wall it’s on the first HA. If hurricane, it’s also preset. Hurricane hits more on dummy because off balance is already applied. But in content someone has to bring OB, so I usually run wall, that I’ve parsed 102 with.
"Last Morndas at the College of Winterhold" roflmao. 😂😂😂😂
this is quality! thanks!
Nice build and video, i'm actually running 2 pieces Iceheart and no oakensoul, triggering Empower with a mage guild spell every ten seconds just to have a restoration staff on my back bar, like a freak
Very freaky! Sounds fun! 😃
Three of these in a dungeon or arena is an easy W. Just don't cross the streams
I am getting 93k. Still have to work at it.
The highest dps I have gotten in the post oakensoul nerf...
Ive been running the same build for a couple weeks now first propper build since coming back after a 6 yr break lol
You made me laugh and hopefully I learned something :)
That "pass the boof" got me on the floor 😂 awesome content tysm!
#barbros
What do you swop in and out when playing in a group? Or does it stay the same as the out and about build?
Yep, the out and about version that removes barbed trap and daedric prey is the one I tend to use for solo and group stuff respectively :)
im giving this vid a like purely for the intro joke lol nice one m8 ok now ill watch the vid
edit: solid build almost the same as i have, 1 quick question iv noticed on a few heavy attack builds that nobody seems to be running the berserker glyph anymore and either run the flame or poison glyph instead and i was wondering would the 5s extra weapon/spell damage buff not be more beneficial than a single flame or poison damage hit every 5s? im not a theory crafter whatsoever and playing on console i dont have access to the analytics like on pc
I think that the glyph of weapon damage (on a weapon) would work better in a situation that you aren't primarily using single target attacks like we are with heavies. If you were running a bunch of AOE spells it would definitely be useful like a 2h build focused on spamming cleave or something like that!
Wouldn't be using a straight up poison bring even higher DPS? I remember in the past that was the case that poison outperformed the glyph
@@bora7494 on a single target maybe but thats 1 proc on 1 target every 5s whereas the berserker gives u a 5s buff to w/s dmg that will boost all ur dmg
@@dvmpstr nice thing about the lightning staff heavy atk tho is u deal 100% of the main targets dmg as splash dmg as well if others are close enuff but that wouldnt translate to the poison/flame proc on that one target, unless im reading something wrong, whereas the berserker glyph will increase the damage on all 6 of ur skills as well as the healing from naked bird lady and crit surge, sorry for the late reply as im not getting any notifications on yt for some reason
@@judsdragon Interesting idea. Got to check if that berserk bonus comes already with Oakensoul or not.
Did test alchemy poison on a trial dummy and the fire glyph outperformed it.
I have been grinding several days for the lightning staff, but the rng is just showing me a huge middle finger... god damn i am done with wayrest sewers for a good while.
May RNJesus be with you!
I finished this build now on my khajiit and it's my favourite build I ever had :D
One question tho, as a khajiit should I put different champion points or different traits/mundus stone so I don't go over the crit cap? If so do you have any suggestion cause I don't really have much understanding of how all that works lol
If you do end up going over the cap (I'm not sure off the top of my head if you would go over) then I would probably try out the lover mundus for some more penetration, though it won't be super helpful in group content when someone else is debuffing enemies for you!
@@dvmpstr thanks you have been a huge help for me!
64k. Something must be off for my Breton.
Keep going! As long as the gear and everything is in place, you'll just have to keep tightening up your rotation. That's where the major increases come from in my experience!
You can just hold the mouse button down the whole time and hit skills close-ish to when the heavy attack ends, just make sure the next heavy attack starts before you hit skills basically… That increased my damage the most with this build once I realised you could just hold it down.
Have you noticed bloodthirsty actually working on heavy attacks? On console several friends and I have noticed that the #'s don't really get any higher as the dummy health goes down.
I would definitely check the forums to see if it's something that people are noticing as an issue, but I would imagine there would be an uproar in the community if that was the case since these builds are so popular lately. :)
On pc we can use combat metrics addon to see a graph of dps/time to confirm everything is working properly.
Keep in mind that sorcerers have a passive that boosts damage based on how much health the enemy has (+10% Damage @ Full HP) plus all the pre casts we can do at the start of the fight I imagine it would even out a tad as those fall off gradually and bloodthirsty starts to kick in.
Just curious how Entropic Touch made it to your ability roster, with no Destructive Touch in the rotation.
Not sure what skill you're asking about when mentioning "entropic touch". Entropy is not on the skill bar at all in my setups, did you mean critical surge or daedric prey maybe?
Has this been nerfed? I see storm master changed from 20 seconds to 8 but 5 second recharge instead of 10?
That set changed, but I'm still rocking the same setup! Some people have switched over to noble duelist instead of storm master, but it's basically about the same by my estimation! 🙂
Has this been nerfed since the new update? Or is this build still kicking azzzz?
No nerfs on this guy yet, still running with the same setup as in the vid! 😎
Feels like cheating, but I can't go back. Every dungeon and trial (except CR need to barswap) that I've done is super easy. No death no sigil speedruns in both Maelstrom and Vateshran vet with minimal effort. Always at the top of Hodor unless someone else is using a similar build. Brokensoul.
@vilhelm schmitt I am sure you can play it in vCR too. Just have NO weapon at the backbar, and the overload doesn't hit you
@@Mischalicious Yeah you can do vCR, there's a video by Xynode on this!
How?
I'm 960CP, have exact same gear (but only staff is gold, other things are purple) and skills, same CP distribution, but when I parse on regular target humanoid skeleton - I pull out only 32k DPS
I can agree, that lower CP and purple gear could make it lower than 100k, but in THREE times?
Also, from where u got all that buffs and who apply Major and minor breach on the dummy? Aint it cheese?
An iron atronach trial dummy will show higher dps since it has all of the extra debuffs and you will gain buffs as if you're in a trial environment being buffed by a group, so if you're smacking around a normal dummy it will be much lower!
@@dvmpstr oh, I see, that make sense now, thx)
Why do you have screen shake enableddd 😭
Immersion. Why do you NOT?!
Quick question cause I don’t understand it in the video but how is the parse in what order?
This one is a little weird on account of the pets, but you can pre-cast the two pet abilities and hurricane before running up, you can also drop ult immediately to maximize. The reason that I started my parse so awkwardly was just to show that you can still hit 100k without being super sweaty and just messing around.
Another commenter mentioned higher dps output from casting barbed trap before daedric prey, so a good general place to start would be something like "pre-cast both pets nd hurricane, ult, barbed trap, daedric prey" with heavies channeled in between each skill while being sure to queue up the next skill while the heavy is channeling. If you find that swapping them around on the bar helps your rotation then keep it up, but GENERALLY speaking I think casting skills from highest to lowest active time tends to work best for my brain, but of course daedric is casted more frequently, so I like to stick it on the lower numbers for finger comfort!
Is one sword and shield fit on nightblade and necromancer?
I'm going to go with a weapon for nightblade where nb will only use their own skill abilities no weapon abilities.
Also that critical skill don't work for me so it suck
Good luck! I don't usually use 1h and shield unless I'm doing a tank character, but it would probably work fine. If you're going the nightblade route for pve as a dps character and don't want to use any of the skills associated with the weapon skill line, I would suggest trying out something like dark shade, merciless resolve, twisting path, swallow soul, and crippling grasp.
Critical Surge is mainly used to get some heals from dealing criticals since we're already getting major brutality from oakensoul. Definitely swap it out if you aren't benefiting from it!
Imagine if sorcs got in class access to empower
Oakensoul grants empower! Trying out the might of the guild passive on another class with a similar setup now as well to see how it fares!
You get it from the mages guild
Yeah 8 sec orb that also reveals enemies it got nerfed from its origin
@@dvmpstr oh yeah but I mean like empower but you get to keep both your bars
@@vossboss220 how would that be relevant then? You aren't using oakensoul so you don't have any of the other buffs that come with it either.
Beginner question: Does unstable wall of elements (off balance) benefit me if I don't run Exploiter?
If you're running content rather than parsing, you can swap in exploiter in place of backstabber to benefit from off balance! However in my experience wrathful strikes provides a more reliable buff than having to proc off balance when running content, so I don't include exploiter in the video.
Unstable wall of elements is still a useful spell to use for some extra area damage!
@@dvmpstr the lightning wall procs off balance on concussed enemies, which is always the big numbers for 7 seconds. So someone has to bring OB. Exploiter is simply a buff to OB. But OB up time is usually less in content, so I dont use exploiter.
@@iamcosmicdude Yeah, that's why I don't use it either, it's not very reliable, so wrathful wins in my book!
One more thing to add since I didn't really answer the original question lol. Off balance (for a 7 second duration) causes the enemy to take 70% more damage from heavy attacks and restore twice the amount of resource, in this case magicka. So it will still benefit you to set enemies off balance speaking generally, yes. Exploiter basically just further increases this damage buff, and since you can't assume off balance to be very reliable when running content there's no need to use it IMO.
@@dvmpstr I always make sure someone is running lightning wall in group for OB. And I only see a 50 percent buff. Nerfed w/o telling us? My HA crits on 21mil are 80something, and 120something during OB. I wish it was higher. I recently cleared vBRP with 3 OakenSorcs plus tank. Everyone had 1 different skill for group comp. Plus 1 in InfallAeth for vuln. Fun times lol
So you need to have enough skill points for all 3 armor types??
Ideally you'll at least want everything that effects your spell damage/critical, but some of the defensive passives are useful as well, but you can certainly save up over time and just run it however you can in the meantime!
@@dvmpstr thanks, although the damage is pretty good for a one bar after completing a few activities found it dull and boring, I’m pretty sure lots of people Will like it but I don’t thinks this is for me, first I was complaining about bar swapping now I prefer it 🤣🤣🤣
Would a lighting glyph help more on the concussion part to increase the damage further?
In my experience the ticks of flame have a better output than extra lightning, but I'm sure it would work just fine if you aren't concerned with crunching numbers :)
@@dvmpstr Thanks. Just clarify. I didn't mean that the lightning damage would be higher. The chance of it triggering a concussed and hence the boost was my thought.
I assume from a pure immediate damage perspective an applied poison would outperform the flame enchantment?
@@bora7494 For parsing, the dummy takes extra damage from 'burning' so the damage over time ends up being better than other glyphs, but poison would work better for solo/group content since there's usually a ton of fire sources around to apply burning to monsters. So it tends to be fire for parse and poison for content imo!
@@dvmpstr Got it. That makes sense. Thanks.
@@dvmpstr I did a bit of testing. The purple fire glyph beat the crown lethal poison every time. Less than 500 DPS more. Tested multiple turns on trial and skeleton dummy.
So you are right - flame is the best option, and like you said not by much.
No Exploiter CP? 10% more damage to off balance enemies seems important to the build
No exploiter! Wrathful Strikes outperforms exploiter on the dummy (which has high uptime on off-balance) by about 1k dps, so it's small but worth the swap.
Would it be worth it to slot a dark magic skill for minor prophecy? Like mines
I haven't tried slotting mines for minor since we get major from oakensoul, but it could be worth testing for sure! Kind of hard to consider what to swap out though :P
@dvmpstr yeah it's a tough call. I guess you could swap out wall of elements if you had another off balancer in the group
@@fitnessfellaz yeah, that's probably the one thing that i would move (sometimes use streak there for certain content anyways)
Hi!
Set Sergeant's or infiltrator ??
Infiltrator is best ??
So long!
Sergeant is better than undaunted infiltrator. But you can use whatever sets you want to use.
@@dvmpstr Certainly!
but my doubt was about the dps with the infiltrator set, that is, the difference between the infiltrator and the Sergeant's.
success on the channel!
@@georgiosilva5588 Sergeant's Mail is better than Undaunted Infiltrator in my opinion. I do not have Infiltrator as one of the sets in this video, so I'm not sure where you're getting that from, but if you are asking if Infiltrator is better than Sergeant's Mail, I would say no. But you can certainly use it if you prefer it!
@@dvmpstr okay! 🙂👍🏽
The set infrator Best? Best sargent?
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hello, what is your armor style?
This is the oblivion explorer's garb!
How did you make that outfit 😮
This is the oblivion explorers garb and head piece from the oblivion dlc, I believe they are unlocked from the main questline in that zone and can be dyed 😀
@@dvmpstr thanks 👌
BRETON JAMES 😂
what about this combination what do you think of it?
Sergant mail and Noble Duelist's
(Waht make stormmaster better? )
maybe worth a test? Or have you tested it before?
Best regards
You can use whatever you want! Noble requires you to be in melee range which isn't great for a ranged build but if you play that way it could work, storm master has no such stipulation and is more reliable.
I've never understood the reason for having different set up for parse and content,, great can do 100k with parse set up but that's not the set up that's usefull in content, am I wrong?
It's just for fun. And some people may use the parse setup for a trial!
@dvmpstr the usable content set ups tend to do less dps by some way I reckon as they not cheesing dummies and need to add that survivability in.
@@syiccal Yeah for sure, in the case of this build you'd lose some dps by having critical surge slotted to heal you instead of having barbed trap, but parsing is meant to just have fun and show big numbers (for the most part). I actually have a video "the art of the parse" that goes into this in a little more detail. :)
what style is that??
Oblivion explorer garb with a dye!
I don't get the joke at the beginning buy good vidoe
Lmfao 🤣
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