Dr. Brown Debates Rabbi Shmuley Boteach on Isaiah 53
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Dr. Brown Debates Rabbi Shmuley Boteach on Isaiah 53
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Here is the link to the full debate! ua-cam.com/video/O9kYhJHTjxE/v-deo.html
Dr Brown showed so much love ❤ to his brother, that it really changed my outlook on how I treat others despite my differences in beliefs.
Glory to God in Jesus name
What I see in Isaiah 53 is explaining how Jesus became our Goat of Departure and Sin offering.this wasn't in your debate at all.. Prove to me through Jesus dying on the cross became goat of departure and sin offering at the same time. How he fulfilled the law.
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@@iyaskelu7173 sir, terms such as NASA used to explain the Goat of departure in Leviticus 16 can't be accepted to explaining sin offering Jesus Christ our Lord did on the cross.
Jesus became our Goat of departure and went to the desert carrying our transgression the desert when baptised by John.
That's why he could forgive sins before going to the cross.
The part of atonement His death fulfilled according to Leviticus has little or nothing to do with him taking care of our transgressions
It is so funny that personal pronoun can be used to denote country. Can a country, Israel be a man of sorrow? Isa 53:6 " ....the Lord *has laid on him the iniquity of us ALL* ". Isa 53:8 For He was cut off from a land of living..."" Israel(a country) cannot be cut off from *a land* . It doesn't make sense.
Rabbis are depressed cause they don't have the sacrifice of atonement from sin. To sacrifice a lamb was an act of repentance not a "sorry for that" speech. Rabbis can not erase the Torah fact that sacrifice is needed, even God says that obedience is more important than sacrifice, but still, sacrifice is a basic tool for the finalization of forgiveness.
The "blindness" that Paul mentions is still very much present today as I have personally experienced a total rejection by Jewish people of any evidence whatsoever that points to Jesus as the Messiah. As Jesus Himself said, ‘If they won’t listen to Moses and the prophets, they won’t be persuaded even if Someone rises from the dead.’” [Luke 16:31]
They rejected the evidence without any reason that you say they're blind?
Maybe your evidence isn't as strong as Dr. Brown's confidence would suggest.
@@blueglassdaveDaniel 9
@@collectiveconsciousness5314 I'm glad you brought that up. Preachers and evangelists frequently go on, and on assuring anyone who'll listen, that the "prophesy" in Daniel 9 is obvious, 100%, rock solid proof that Jesus was the Messiah, as Christianity defines him. They never mention all the serious biblical scholars who make good cases for all, or parts of Daniel being written much later than the Babylonian exile in which it's placed and so the interpretation of the statue with feet of clay describing the following empires and the "abomination in the temple" being the actions of Antiochus IV Epiphanes and so on were not prophesies but simply an account of history placed in the mouth of an earlier historical figure, which was not an uncommon practice. This is far from far from the only explanation of Daniel 9, even among Christians, however, you will almost never hear about this from those who insist that Daniel 9 is unquestionable proof of Jesus being the Messiah either because they don't know it themselves, not being scholars, or they do know it and don't accept it or want to cast any doubt on their message.
Now, the primary, and frankly only, argument against this is "How dare you deny that this is prophesy! We've always said so!", and here, they're covering up reality once again. The New Testament contains about 300 passages taken from the Jewish Scriptures by NT authors and used as proof texts for Jesus, yet not a single one of these authors uses this supposedly rock solid "proof" text to support their belief that Jesus was the Messiah. They were grabbing texts from throughout the entire Tanach (the Jewish scriptures) yet they all ignored this "knock out" proof from Daniel? Daniel was well known in the first century and the goal of every NT author was to convey their beliefs to their audiences, yet not one mentioned chapter 9. Clearly, they didn't think it applied to Jesus. In fact, the first interpretation of the various "7's" as applying to Jesus doesn't happen until the early third century. If you will look up, "From Daniel to Revelation: How did the early Church Fathers interpret Daniel 9", it has a good layout of many highly influential early fathers and their various interpretations of Daniel 9.
These were all Christians. Jews had, and have, their own perfectly valid interpretations. Rabbi Toviah Singer is, increasingly, the Rabbi Christians love to hate but regardless of what anyone thinks of him, I'd suggest listening to his interpretation of Daniel 9 and asking yourself if you can explain why he's wrong.
I certainly don't blame you for accepting the word of so many confident Christian sounding speakers and authors but, unfortunately, as throughout life in general, a good salesman, sincere or not, can make us believe every word they say, whether they're right or not, and with Daniel 9, they are not the only game in town.
@blueglassdave The NT prophesied that in the last days, there would be a great falling away from the truth. It also prophesied that the whole world would turn against Israel and despise Israel. We are starting to see both happen. That is enough evidence to me that the NT is true.
Calling Jesus a Pharisee is ironic.
He proved he knew more than the Pharisees when Joseph and Mary lost him in synagogue. But in his spirit, the spirit of reform and restoration Jesus was much closer to the Essenes. Of course He was more than both, He was the perfection of both
I'm now 68 years, I've accepted Jesus as my Saviour at 8 years. In Jesus Mighty Faithful Name AlleluJah ... Jesus died for my sins. Amen. 🎉❤ I'll enjoy my Study on Isa. 53: Tku, for GODs Word 🙏🛐🎉
Amen wow ❤️✝️🫶
Amen
@prophetmuhammad8744Psa 44:11 Thou hast given us like sheep appointed for meat; and hast scattered us among the heathen.
Psa 44:22 Yea, for thy sake are we killed all the day long; we are counted as sheep for the slaughter.
These verses clearly points to the Israelites as sheep to be slaughter.. truly they are the suffering servant.
For those who say you were brainwashed, I also at a young age believed (5 yrs old) and am now 58yrs. Yet my brother who was 4yrs didn't believe and is still an atheist. He and I were very close our whole childhood.
Praise God 🙏
Jesus said, Unless you have the Heart of a little child, you cannot enter into the Kingdom of God. Children have humble hearts with no pride in Them.
A little child doesn't fall down the rabbit hole of scholastic and convoluted arguments about ancient documents. Having a relationship with God can't be that complicated....can it?
@@DIBBY40 Darkness will always fight against the light until Satan is bound. Jesus said, The members of your own household will be your worst enemies because of Him.
People with so much pride and entitlement cannot see. Thank you Dr Brown for exposing the spiritual blindness of the Jews through scripture
Cannot see what? He asked a question, Jesus opened his mouth, he had offsprings, where is the atonement of Jesus for the nation of Israel? What is your answer?
Rabbi Shmuley has soo much hate inside which has blinded him to see the truth. Thank u for this video Doc. Brown
disagreement and a difference in tradition is not hate.
@@smolderingtitan of course it is not but the way he express his disagreement in such manner is hate. its obvious.
you wanna see hate? check out Rabbi Tovia Singer
@@smolderingtitanpassionate argument stems from somewhere dark
@@chrissyJ6232 I sort of, kind of, maybe, disagree. (Don't want to be too passionate, yo)
😂😂 it's quite funny how rabbi completely takes verses out of context and brag so confidently. Dr Brown as usual obliterates the debate
So sad, to hear the pride, blasphemy and stupidity of such a smart and respected man. I pray that one day, soon, Our Lord will help the scales off of his eyes and heart. Thank you, Dr. Brown, for sharing the Gospel, with the Jew 1st❣️. Maranatha, to our Savior and King 🙏. I can't wait until Our Lord fulfills the rest of prophecy! Has the rabbi read your book, Not Afraid of the antichrist? Do rabbis know/study prophecy of the New Testament or quran? Btw, do you agree that we're in the fig tree generation? It will be 80 years since '48, in 6 more years. What do you think of the Yehuda Rav Shlomo? They think he's doing miracles. And, an important rabbi said BByahu will introduce him in the near future.
"In the last days there will be many, who say here he is, there he is, do not go there..." - "to decieve if possible, the very elect..." - Jesus of Nazareth.
Dispensationalism is probably false... it doesn't show up anywhere in church history until 1830... the church isn't a parenthesis in history... and if the rapture is imminent we wouldn't need anymore signs... or are there more things to happen? Which one is it? Also, where in scripture is there a place to justify a pausing or indefinite 69th week of Daniel?
Post Millenial or A Millenial seems much much more likely.
@@allonekingdom AMEN🙏🏻
Opening statement was a bomb dropped. Outstanding run through Isaiah, with a slam dunk Isiah 53…Dr. Brown gave a great opening.
Shmuley gave a self righteous trust in self rather than the Sinai Covenant he says he believes in. He doesn’t need the prescribed sacrificial system or atonement provided by the yearly sacrifice mediated by The High Priest. He says “Torah Torah” but has no concern that he dismisses the entire atonement system…. It’s crazy, wake up my brother
As a messianic Jew, I am saddened by his rejection of Yeshua our Mochiach
Dr Brown explains very well.
Absolutely,i totally agree!👍🏾 💯
Im astonished what is happening today, Jews and Christians are talking together✡️💙✝️❤️Bless you Rabbi , all respect 🫡
Something has always died for our sins for without the shedding of blood there is no firgiveness of sins.....bulls, goats, lambs etc but always put on the scapegoat, Jesus now the lamb of God the final sacrifice. Surely a blinding over Israel or how could a dirty gentile like me be saved. Thankyou Jesus
Oh really? Then please explain how jesus was allegedly able to heal a paralyzed man if there's no forgiveness without sacrifices?
@@moses2031 Jesus is God, he can both forgive sins and heal.....the cross is the ultimate sacrifice that he looked toward and we look back too. But a sacrifice JESUS was always scheduled for you and me and the paralysed.
@@moses2031the sacrifice is standing there before him, believing in him was accepting that sacrifice.
Blessings to you Dr.Brown and your ministry
The Jews are right on this...The text in Isiah 53 DOES NOT MENTION JESUS NAME, DOES NOT MENTION THE MESSIAH, and besides Isiah was concerned with what was going on in his time...Don't you all think the Jews know their own Torah...This is just like most of all the other prophecies...they are too vague, Christians wish them to be true, because they want to believe... And nothing wrong with that but that does not make it true... There are so many problems with the whole Bible that once you research the bible with the HISTORICAL SCHOLARS you will find so much of it is forced to make the old testament predict the new testament. We all know Jesus cannot be wrong...yet he did not return in the lifetime of the apostles like he said he would...THAT SHOULD BE ENOUGH...LAST CHAPTER OF MARK WAS ADDED LATER....it goes on and on...
You need the Holy Spirit, He will guide you in all truth. Seek the Lord we live in evil days.
I am sure the Jews know there own Torah ...and so does Dr Brown...he is a Jew. I enjoyed and learned from both sides of the argument. There are also Jews that don't even believe in God.
It takes the Holy Spirit of Jesus christ to open the eyes
I recommend Dr. Brown Vs. Rabbi Tovia Singer and also Professor Solberg Vs. Rabbi Singer as well
Shmuley's histrionics was an immediate turn off
I would love for you to interview Rabbi Zev Porat, he has a powerful testimony.
Brown is on the right side of history and Scripture. Too bad more Jews cannot yet bring themselves to join him there.
Awesome 😎
As a gentile, i am thoroughly enjoying thorough thursday.
I am a Gentile Believer too.
The passage applies to Abraham Lincoln. Pretty funny.
Blesphmey
Praise Yahweh Almighty Father's and Yahshua Almighty MessiYah 🙏 HallyluYah Yahweh and Yahshua
From a newcomer to Christianity and Judaism. I was raised catholic but rarely participated in the faith. Rabbi was arguing that Jews dont need a man to die for their sins because it alludes that men no longer having to live a life of morality. The Holy Bible doesnt teach that, it says you still need to repent and live a life of glory and morakity, jesus dying does not absolve you of all your wrongdoings. Thats a silly assumption.
This is my first time hearing Schmuley. He delivers a highly emotional and very self-centered message. No different from a prosperity preacher. His arguments.... should I say, comments... ignore everything Jesus said.
his argument is that Christians misinterpret Isaiah 53. He uses unnecessarily theatrical language but he finally gets there. I'm not overly impressed with Brown's arguments regarding Isaiah 53. At best, it's a draw. Bear in mind that this video is not my first introduction to the discrepancies between the Jewish and Christian interpretations of Isaiah 53 so my reluctance to accept the Christian message is not based on the contents of this video.
It's a very poor debate altogether. Brown sounds like he's listing good points but to me it seems more like gish galloping.
The Rabbi is wrong. Isaiah 53 has not always been interpreted by the Jews as referring to the nation of Israel and in fact the interpretation of referring to the nation of Israel is rather recent. To cite but a few examples:
Rabbi Moses Alschech (1508-1600) says (referring to Isaiah chapter 53):
“Our Rabbis with one voice accept and affirm the opinion that the prophet is speaking of the Messiah, and we shall ourselves also adhere to the same view.”
Rabbi Yafeth Ben Ali ( second half of the 10th Century):
“As for myself, I am inclined to regard it as alluding to the Messiah.”
Abraham Farissol ( 1451- 1526) says:
“In this chapter there seem to be considerable resemblances and allusions to the work of the Christian Messiah and to the events which are asserted to have happened to Him, so that no other prophecy is to be found the gist and subject of which can be so immediately applied to Him.”
Gersonides (1288-1344) on Deut. 18:18:
“In fact Messiah is such a prophet, as it is stated in the Midrasch on the verse,’Behold, my servant shall prosper…’ (Isa. 52:13).”
Rabbi Simeon Ben Jochai (2.Century) , Zohar,, part II, page 212a and III, page 218a, Amsterdam Ed.):
“There is in the garden of Eden a palace called : ‘The palace of the sons of sickness, this palace the Messiah enters, and summons every sickness, every pain, and every chastisement of Israel: they all come and rest upon Him. And were it not that He had thus lightened them off Israel, and taken them upon Himself, there had been no man able to bear Israels chastisement for the transgression of the law; this is that which is written, ‘Surely our sicknesses he has carried’ Isa.53,4).- As they tell Him (the Messiah) of the misery of Israel in their captivity, and of those wicked ones among them who are not attentive to know their Lord, He lifts up His voice and weeps for their wickedness; and so it is written,’He was wounded for our transgressions’ (Isa.53,5).
@@falsemessiah751
Even if there were some who believed Isaiah 53 refers to Israel in the 2nd century A.D. it still didn't start to become a commonly held view until Medieval times.
I didn't bother to look up your sources for the commentaries but I am guessing they are all from after the year 1000?
@@falsemessiah751
Actually when I look up your citations I am not getting early dates for everyone either. When I look up Ibn Ezra I get the years 1000-1100. When I look up Don Yitzchak Abarbenal he didn't live until the years 1437-1508. When I look up Talmud Berachoth I do get the years 5a c.450 - c.550 CE which are a little earlier but, again, I didn't say there were absolutely no sources calling the Suffering Servant Israel. What I said is there were plenty of sources before fairly recently calling the Suffering Servant a person rather than the nation of Israel. When I look up Midrash Rabba I find that it was created over 8 centuries being first published in the 1600s; maybe I'm wrong on this one but if I am please point out where because I don't see otherwise when I look it up. When I look up Targum Jonathan it was written in the 4th century A.D. However, there is also this intro to Isa. 52:13 in Targum Jonathan which says ”Behold, my servant the Messiah shall prosper; he shall be high and increase and be exceedingly strong…“. If you look above at my previous citations I also gave you one from the Rabbi Simeon Ben Jochai Zohar,, part II, page 212a and III, page 218a, Amsterdam Ed. which dates from the 2nd century A.D.
@@falsemessiah751
Midrash (on Ruth 2,14): “He is speaking of the King Messiah - ‘Come hither’, i.e.”>Draw near to the throne, The bread of the kingdom.’ This refers to the chastisements
@@falsemessiah751
Would you mind telling me which of your sources are from before the Medieval period because when I look them up none of them appear to be from before that time period. Rabbi Simeon Ben Jochai lived in the 2nd century A.D. and Rabbi Jose the Galilean lived in the 1rst and 2nd centuries A.D.
I have no idea who is Walter Brueggemann Ph.D but I'm sure I could find just as many people who disagree with him. There are certainly plenty of Jewish writers proceeding him in the previous centuries who would disagree with him.
There is further evidence ancient Jews believed Isaiah 53 to prophesize the Messiah in Micah 5:2:
But as for you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
Too little to be among the clans of Judah,
From you One will go forth for Me to be ruler in Israel.
His goings forth are from long ago,
From the days of eternity. Micah 5:2
A person who would be born in Bethlehem is mentioned in this passage.
The Jewish Study Bible says of Micah 5:2:
"Traditional Jewish interpretations of this verse tends to focus on comparisons between the birth pangs of a woman and the hardship of Israel prior to the coming of the Messiah. See the following text: “Rab said: The son of David will not come until the [Roman] power enfolds Israel for nine months, as it is written, Therefore will he give them up, until the time that she which travaileth hath brought forth: then the remnant of his brethren shall return unto the children of Israel. ‘Ulla said: Let him [The Messiah) come, but let me not see him. Rabbah said likewise: Let him come, but let me not see him … Abaye enquired of Rabbah: ‘What is your reason [for not wishing to see him)? Shall we say, because of the birth pangs [preceding the advent] of the Messiah?’ But it has been taught, R. Eleazar’s disciples asked him: ‘What must a man do to be spared the pangs of the Messiah?’ [He answered,] ‘Let him engage in study and benevolence; and you Master do both.’ ” (b. Smr/1. 98b [Soncino ET]).[1]"
It can be seen from here that the Messiah would come sometime after the Roman Empire had become powerful and occupied Israel for more than 9 months. This view from the Jewish Study Bible is Isaiah 53 refers to the Messiah and not to the nation of Israel.
There is also this from Josephus who lived was born in 37 A.D.:
“That then should their city be taken, as well as their holy house, when once their temple should become foursquare.” But now, what did most elevate them in undertaking this war, was an ambiguous oracle that was also found in their sacred writings, how, “about that time, one from their country should become governor of the habitable earth.” The Jews took this prediction to belong to themselves in particular and many of the wise men were thereby deceived in their determination. Now, this oracle certainly denoted the government of Vespasian, who was appointed emperor in Judea. However, it is not possible for men to avoid fate, although they see it beforehand. But these men interpreted some of these signals according to their own pleasure; and some of them they utterly despised, until their madness was demonstrated, both by the taking of their city, and their own destruction. (Book 2, chapter 6, and paragraph 4)
In this passage the Jews are expecting someone to come in the 1rst century to deliver them from the Romans (about that time, one from their country should become governor of the habitable earth.) which is a Messiah who would come and rule over the whole World.
@@falsemessiah751
Upon further research it does appear that there were at least three people before Jesus who claimed to be the Messiah according to Jewish historian Josephus. They were 1. Judas, son of the bandit chief Ezekias, whom Herod the Great had executed 2. Simon of Perea, a slave of king Herod who was the leader of a rebellion that burned down the palace in Jericho who was eventually executed 3. Athronges in Judea who leading his armed supporters and brothers was recognized by them as being a king and led them against Herod Archelaus and the Romans. It is apparent from this writing that Jews were already expecting a Messiah to deliver them from the Romans before Jesus was crucified. (Josephus, Jewish War; Josephus, Jewish Antiquities; Crossan, The Historical Jesus: The Life of a Mediterranean Jewish Peasant)
Both sides had relevant points, and the entirety of the interpretation Isaiah 53 has yet to be revealed, because there are parts of the Old Testament (the prophets) that have yet to be fulfilled.
To make a blanket statement in assigning a single character in history to the servant in Isaiah 53 does not hold water, gaps will remain on both sides of the argument, whether you believe the servant to be Jesus Christ or Israel as a nation.
There remains a time in history when the Jewish people will again be exalted before all the nations, as Jesus Himself said, that Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles "until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled".
Even Paul writes that blindness in part has happened to Israel "until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in".
Jesus did not come to re-emphasise the separation between Jew and Gentile, but to remove the enmity between the two.
The goal should be to establish a connection between both sides of the argument rather than to see both as being mutually exclusive, only then will there be total reconciliation, as Paul writes in Romans 11, that "all Israel shall be saved", and both Christians and Jews continue to look towards such a time.
Writing this as a Christian and a believer in Jesus Christ.
The Spirit and the Bride say, "Maranatha!"
Who is more angry.
I respect smully , but to me the sheep to the slaughter or silent lamb fits Jesus perfect, his own people killed him sheep to slaughter, and yes silent lamb as he didn’t fight or argue or cry he took it like a man and redeemed us
I wonder what the Jewish religion would look like if Gods plan was different, it Jesus was never born, judaism would be just some small obscure religion i think.
Judaism is still one of the smallest religions, based on numbers of believers, on the planet. But so are lovers of classical music.
The Jews would never have been persecuted and would be much larger.
christianity didn't do any favors for Judaism.
@@moses2031 Jews were persecuted before Christians arrived on the scene.
@@SaintCharbelMiracleworker That is true, but wouldn't you agree that after Christianity, the Jews were persecuted way more than before Christianity? Aren't you aware that when Constantine became emperor he mad numerous harsh decrees against those who followed Judaism? Do you think the crusades, blood libels, inquisitions, forced conversions, Chmielnicki pogroms, etc would have happened if Christianity weren't around? Why is it that most people who are Antisemitic today have their views about Jews influenced by religion?
Did not Jesus' own apostles hide there faces? When Peter was asked " werent you one of the Nazarenths apostels?" Peter responded 3 x " im not him" So Jesus was rejected by his own people
Phewwwww getting chills every time Dr Brown proclaims scriptures about Yeshu’a our Lrd
The Torah states that a husband that divorces his wife can not remarry her if she has committed adultery and she is only released to remarry on the death of her husband. This is the mystery of the Gospel. As Israel was wed at Mt Sinai and later divorced by Elohim for adultery we are redeemed to remarry because of the death of the Husband, Yeshua Ben-Elohim.
It absolutely amazes me how the Rabbi just does not understand his own scriptures..
Rabbi said Jesus can't be the lamb because Jesus spoke words on the cross. By this logic, if any Jewish People uttered a peep at their torture/death in the holocaust or any other time of Jsewish persecution, that would disqualify Israel from being the sacrificial lamb as well.
I was sincerely dissapointed in the rabbi's arguments. His main point was about being victimized and therefore deserving to win the debate. That's all I got out of it. He doesn't really understand Christian teachings or the concepts in them. The biggest irony of the whole debate is when he said that Jesus didn't atone for Israel because 40 years later they were destroyed. Yes! if you reject and murder God's only begotten son and dismiss his holy sacrifice, thereby rejecting his atonement, God will turn his face away from you!! You opted out of the atonement! That's why you were scattered to the nations!!! If Israel would have recognized their Messiah and come together in his teachings, that wouldn't have happened!! Am I crazy here? Does that not make sense?!!!
Is it just me, or does shmuley sound like he's putting an act on? 🤔 He sounds super sarcastic to me most the time, idk,
Shmuley looks ridiculous try to debate 😂
Really you see Lincoln Ibrahim went like slain sheep to save the black and don’t see Isaiah 53 : that sheep was the lord Jesus Christ slain for his people ..
I guess according to the Rabbi, the crusades were not war against the Muslim caliphates but rather against the Jewish people
I am Jewish. From an early age I learned what the Christians had done to the Jews during the Crusades.
Crusade is a happy, fun word for Christians, used casually by Christians today but for Jews it evokes death, torture, and rape.
When the Christians were marching to the Holy Land to liberate it from the Muslims, they realized non-believing Christ killers lived in their midst and began attacking them. The Jews were surprised. It was like a Holocaust.
From Wikipedia -History of the Jews and the Crusades:
"Prior to the First Crusade, there are multiple accounts of cooperation between Christians and Jews. Not only was there economic collaboration, with Jews being involved in several industries such as trade, minting, and financial advising, but Jews and Christians were also social with one another, even attending each other's weddings and funerals."
"Ivan G. Marcus in his article The Culture of the Early Ashkenaz argues that the Jews pulled away from the Christian community physically, mentally, and spiritually due to the sheer ferocity and shocking nature of the crusades. All of these and more provide differing opinions on the results of the crusades, but all agree that the crusades caused a separation between the two religions."
Memorialization of deceased relatives and of Jewish martyrs has figured in the liturgical observances of Yom Kippur since the massacre of approximately 8,000 Rhineland Jews at the time of the First Crusade (1096). Indeed, many of the Jewish mourning customs that have continued down to our own day originated in that time and place in response to the emotional challenges faced by the survivors.1 An extensive Jewish memorial literature of chronicles and poetry (particularly liturgical poetry, piyyutim) was created in the wake of those sad events.2
One of those liturgical poems is Eileh Ezkerah (“These do I recall”), which recounts the legend of the Ten Martyrs....
Source:
Eileh Ezkerah: Memorializing Jewish Martyrs on Yom Kippur
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Rabbi Richard S. Sarason, Ph.D.
The Jewish community was prosperous, well established and seemingly secure. However, the fury of the Crusaders fell upon that community, with hundreds being slaughtered and Jewish property being burned and looted. The Crusaders dragged their Jewish victims to the baptismal fount demanding their conversion to Christianity. Some Jews succumbed, but most of the Jews of those communities accepted death, even killing their own families rather than accepting any form of conversion. It was a dark time in Jewish history and remains as deep and dark a page in the annals of the Christian Church.
Source: Remembering The Crusades by Rabbi Berel Wein
To this day, one of the most important and humbling prayers on Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur is Untanneh Tokef said to be written by Amnon of Mainz.
The legend about its author may not be factual in all its details but I remember the first time I heard the Rabbi tell it. This chilling legend evokes the collective memory of what the Christians did to us during the Crusades and how we remained true to God.
From Wikipedia: Amnon of Mainz
Amnon of Mainz or Amnon of Mayence is the subject of a medieval legend that became very popular.
It tells of Rabbi Amnon, of Mainz (Mayence), Germany, in the 11th century, whom the Archbishop of Mainz, at various times, tried to convert to Christianity. On one occasion Amnon evasively asked to be given three days' time for consideration, but when he left the Archbishop's palace he immediately regretted even appearing to waver in his Jewish faith. When he failed to appear on the appointed day, the archbishop had him brought guarded into his presence. Amnon, rebuked for his failure to keep his promise, pleaded guilty, and said that his tongue should be amputated, because it had expressed a doubt as to the truth of Judaism. The archbishop, however, pronounced the sentence that Amnon's feet, which had refused to come, and his hands, be cut off. This was accordingly done.
Amnon gave orders that he be carried into the synagogue, where Rosh Hashanah was being observed. The reader was about to begin the Kedushah, when he was asked by Amnon to wait. The latter then recited the prayer known as "Unetanneh Tokef," ("Let us tell how overwhelming [is the holiness of this day]") which is a description of the Day of Judgment. No sooner had he finished the prayer than he died.
Michael is super in his presentation.
This jew was a embarrassment and clearly had no idea what Christianity is. I'm surprised how ignorant some of these so called rabbis are . Well done Dr Brown you are far to superior than these stereotypical Jews . They truly r unlearnrred of anything outside there Judaism n only if they knew they missed there own messiah n how the messiah was fortold that the temple will be destroyed around time of messiah n how they casted locks for his things.
I see the Rabbi won hands down
Which one?
@@marksimons4108 are you for real???
Lol...
I am sure he won before the debate too haha
Keep deceiving yourself.
@@niobserver1073 you come across as an im becile stop the tabs
@@Isaac5123
You can't even punctuate and spell properly lol..
You need to be honest with yourself. Stop projecting yourself on others
And yet he proud to be called a chosen people living in the God promise land but not believe Messiah,the God of Yisrael.
This man is filled with pride and self righteousness and the humility of Christ Jesus is not in him at all.
@@falsemessiah751 do you believe in Jesus of Nazareth as The Christ of God crucified, dead, buried and resurrected?
@@falsemessiah751 good you are honest.
I know you are waiting for your own messiah but this messiah you wait for is false and will deceive many like you.
Jesus Christ is the messiah and for sure He is coming back to establish His Kingdom.
I’m just wondering why is this video cut?
Many thanks Dr Brown.
God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ is your strength.
The Rabbi is trying to play on emotions and strengthen your case. Most of the Jews that he spoke of in 70 AD and in our time that were slaghtured never accepted Jesus. So his point about Jesus's attornement as useless for them makes zero, no sense. He got desperate just like Rabbi Singer and started to bramble. They are just not humble enough to admit that Jesus is our Lord and Savior.
The Rabbi's debate lacks succinct proofs, he only bases on stories without proofs. He tried though, but my Lord Jesus Christ is Lord and the son of the living God.
Read the prophets Rabbi. God had forsaken Israel. He had given them over to destruction with only a remnant remaining. It was brought on them. It wasn’t voluntarily taken on them by themselves. The servant in Isaiah 53 voluntarily took the suffering upon himself.
i don't know about others, but i find it quite curious, if not enlightening, that of the 3 Abrahamic religions (although i only consider Islam to be "Abrahamic" in name only), only Christians have clear, consistent, logical, harmonized explanations for the interpretation of Scriptures-from Beginning to End. when Christians debate Jews and/or Muslims, Jews and/or Muslims consistently play the role of "spoiler" or "debunker" while Christians simply provide their hypotheses of the Text. why aren't Christians ever asked to explain why their particular Jewish/Islamic explanations of the Bible are wrong? however, that's not to say it _never_ happens, but when it does, it's typically of a single verse that doesn't go any further in a complete story. shouldn't this fact count for something more? personally, i believe it does.
Isaiah 53.
Read Isaiah 41:8-9, 43:10, 44:1, 44:8, 44:21, 45:4.
All of the above passages say the nation of Israel is the servant. All of these passages lead up to 53. If just going by logic....53 must also agree that the servant is Israel. Otherwise, 53 must be taken out of context to be about someone else. Dr. Brown states that from 48 onward, the text is speaking of a single person as a servant. 49:3 is clearly talking about Isaiah himself....."and he said to me" the writer. Isaiah was a member of Israel and is therefore a servant of Hashem just as much as any Torah observant Jew.
43:10 clearly demonstrates the Servant is both singular and Plural. Witnesses and my servant. G-D frequently refers to Israel with both see Jeremiah 30:10 where the nation of Israel is also referred to as a "Servant" in singular form. In Exodus 4:22 they are referred to as G-D's "Firstborn son"....singular. Hosea 11:1 also does this. This idea is common-place all over the Old Testament.
Isaiah 52:15: So shall he cast down many nations; kings shall shut their mouths because of him, for, what had not been told them they saw, and [at] what they had not heard they gazed.
What nation today hasn't heard of Jesus?? This speaks of nations of the world in complete shock because they discover something they did not know nor did they ever consider it.
Isaiah 53:1: Who would have believed our report, and to whom was the arm of the L-rd revealed?
This is clearly the shocked nations speaking. In fact verses 1 through 8 of 53 are the kings of nations speaking. With this said, they have erroneous belief's that are also displayed in verses 1-8.
Exodus 32:30-33, Ezekiel 18, Deuteronomy 24:16 make clear that one man cannot atone for the sins of someone else. The person that sins, they must obtain atonement themselves and another man cannot provide it in any way.
Verses 9 through 12 is HaShem/G-D speaking.
Verse 5 reads: But he was pained because of our transgressions, crushed because of our iniquities; the chastisement of our welfare was upon him, and with his wound we were healed.
In mistranslations the text says "But he was pained FOR our transgressions". This is not what the text says in the Hebrew original. It says "Pained BECAUSE of/From our transgressions".
Verse 8 is highly mistranslated. In Christian texts it says:
"By oppression and judgment he was taken away.
Yet who of his generation protested?
For he was cut off from the land of the living;
for the transgression of my people he was punished.
Hebrew original says: מֵעֹ֚צֶר וּמִמִּשְׁפָּט֙ לֻקָּ֔ח וְאֶת־דּוֹר֖וֹ מִ֣י יְשׂוֹחֵ֑חַ כִּ֚י נִגְזַר֙ מֵאֶ֣רֶץ חַיִּ֔ים מִפֶּ֥שַׁע עַמִּ֖י נֶ֥גַע לָֽמוֹ:
Correct Translation:
From imprisonment and from judgment he is taken, and his generation who shall tell? For he was cut off from the land of the living; because of the transgression of my people, a plague befell them.
Compare the two translations. The last word in the Hebrew is לָֽמוֹ which is pronounced "Lamoe". It is plural. The Christian text translats this word as "He" as in "For the Transgression of my people HE was punished". They translated a plural word in singular form. It should read "Because of the transgression of my people, a plague befell THEM".
This clearly demonstrates the servant is many people AFTER Chapter 49.
Verse 10 Christian translation:
Yet it was the L-rd’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the L-rd makes his life an offering for sin,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
and the will of the L-rd will prosper in his hand.
Verse 10 Jewish translation:
And the L-rd wished to crush him, He made him ill; if his soul admits guilt, he shall see children, he shall prolong his days, and G-d's purpose shall prosper in his hand.
The Hebrew says: וַֽיהֹוָ֞ה חָפֵ֚ץ דַּכְּאוֹ֙ הֶֽחֱלִ֔י אִם־תָּשִׂ֚ים אָשָׁם֙ נַפְשׁ֔וֹ יִרְאֶ֥ה זֶ֖רַע יַֽאֲרִ֣יךְ יָמִ֑ים וְחֵ֥פֶץ יְהֹוָ֖ה בְּיָד֥וֹ יִצְלָֽח:
This says "if his soul admits guilt" The Hebrew word here is pronounced Asham which means guilt. The Christian version replaces this word with Sin. Guilt and sin are two completely different concepts and Hebrew words. This servant is a SINNER!
If this servant is a sin offering it means death. The Hebrew word used here for Children is "Zerah" or "זֶ֖רַע". This word can only mean physical flesh and blood descendants in biblical hebrew. It cannot mean spritual children which would be "Bnay". How can a dead person produce physical children? They cannot and is not possible. It also states that this Servant will "Prolong his days". You cannot prolong your days if you are a sin offering. You can prolong your days if you admit guilt as a sinner.
I will lastly point out that verse 11 states that others will be saved by the servants KNOWLEDGE! Has nothing to do with a sin offering of any kind. It's KNOWLEDGE.....THE KNOWLEDGE I JUST TYPED HERE! Simply admit guilt, ask for forgiveness, repent of bad actions that caused you to have to admit guilt. Read Zephaniah 3:13 which uses the same language as Isaiah 53 and clearly mentions Israel.
Isaiah 55:7 states:
The wicked shall give up his way, and the man of iniquity his thoughts, and he shall return to the L-rd, Who shall have mercy upon him, and to our G-d, for He will FREELY PARDON.
iSAIAH 55:7 makes it quite clear no sin sacrifice is required at all!!! No acknowledgement of someone dying for your sins. Simply give up the inquity, admit guilt, follow G-D's Torah and that's all you have to do! You will be immediately forgiven. Give to Charity is a great way to show HaShem/G-D that you are sincere.....Read Daniel 4:27 which is the exact advice Daniel gives to Nebuchadnezzar, a non Jew.
This text is grossly misued and mistranslated in Christian texts and is quite clearly demonstrated. You should ask yourself this: Why do none of the authors of the New testament NOT use Isaiah 53 as a proof text? Because they clearly knew something you do not know but NOW if you read this far...you do!
Shalom!
Shmuley is silly.
After hearing Shmuley, I now understand more than ever the statement: "We have no king but Caesar!" Orthodox Judaism adheres to traditions and fables rather than the Truth of the Almighty as witnesses in
scripture. Simply astonishing!!
Rabbinic Judaism and its followers love to think they are righteous and good men, Jesus makes them acknowledge their sinfulness, and so they hate him, just as Jesus said, for testifying their deeds (even their best deeds) are filthy rags to a holy God. It is despicable that they would use their platform to denounce their own Messiah.
“Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.”
Mark 7:8
Is Othodox Judaism the same, or similar to Rabbinic Judaism?
Do all of modern sects of "Judaism" stem from Rabbinic Judaism?
@@Gutslinger pretty much, yes! The Way of the Most High is His way, not man's way, not a "Jewish" way or a Christian way but His Way! The nation of Israel, God's nation of Israel has always been made up of native born Israelites and foreigners who joined into Israel! It's like being an American, you don't lose your racial identity because you are American! Hope this helps!
@@yosefyahu4778 I've been trying to understand Judaism from a religious or religious doctrine point of view. Because I often hear of "Orthodox" Judaism and "Rabbinic" Judaism, and I see differences in how some dress or practice their religion. I'm just wondering if Rabbinic Judaism is the roots to which all of those modern forms of Judaism stem from.
Because from my understanding of what I've heard from Messianic/Christian Jews is that Rabbinic Judaism started somewhere between 70AD and 135AD, after the Romans destroyed the 2nd Temple, sometime during the Bar Kokhba revolt in which there was a major fracture between Messianic Jews and non-Messianic Jews, because the non-Messianic Jews and Rabbi Akiva put their faith into Bar Kokhba as being the Messiah.. Which ultimately failed and lead them being in exile, to Babylon, where Rabbi Akiva was from, I believe.
That was a mouthful..
I am from asia and I testify that Jesus is the Messiah and The Son of God.
I am from the US and I testify that jesus was a bastard, a deceiver, and a false prophet.
Amen Ronald👑🔥🕊
@@paulawallace8784
23 and I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn.
Exodus 4:23 KJV
God is reffering to Israelites because at this time when He was talking to Moses, Jacob aka Israel is already dead 430 years ago.
@@paulawallace8784
And the LORD said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go. And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn: and I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn.
Exodus 4:21-23 KJV
Now the sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt in Egypt, was four hundred and thirty years. And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, even the selfsame day it came to pass, that all the hosts of the LORD went out from the land of Egypt. It is a night to be much observed unto the LORD for bringing them out from the land of Egypt: this is that night of the LORD to be observed of all the children of Israel in their generations.
Exodus 12:40-42 KJV
@@paulawallace8784 God of the Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the Jews, are saving a lot of gentiles all over the world. Israel is the chosen people to be the priest of the the world and Jesus is doing that right now. But you have to remember that God created everyone and is not only for the Jews. This kind of thinking is arrogance which God hates.
One of Rabbi Shmuley arguments is that the Nazis can't be atoned for, yet in Jonah God's is willing to spare Nineveh (Assyrian empire) from their crimes.
What were those crimes? Burning children alive, cutting off hands and feet, and skinning people alive before cutting their heads off.
I would argue that the Assyrians were just as evil as the Nazis and that God would be willing to forgive those who truly repent.
@@D18.21 Do you understand what original sin is?
@@paulawallace8784 It wasn't "A" mistake, it was "THE" mistake. Adam and Eve were created with free will. From the moment Eve used her free will and believed a Bad Angel evil entered and corrupted God's creation who were originally created without sin. Eve and Adam disobeyed God. Mary believed a Good Angel Archangel Gabriel and she obeyed God. Mary's YES to God undid Eve's NO to God.
Ah, that's the key: those who repent.
@@SaintCharbelMiracleworker No, it absolutely did not. Mary, atoned for nothing. Mary was a sinner and could NOT atone.
@@johnbreitmeier3268 Nobody said Mary atoned for our sins.
The rabbi is incoherent and purely emotional...he's heart seems to be hardened to the same Gospel he studies. I pray for God to remove the scales upon the eyes of his chosen nation and for all the other nations as well. Praise be to God!
From the very moment Rabbi Schmuley began to speak, I could discern his deception.
so true...satan couldnt handle defeat at the cross so he stays there deceiving many taking away the atonement of sins like in this debate and islam
Can you explain what is his deception?
Wow! Deception! Not even sincerely believing otherwise. Just out and out lies. That's quite a little discernment meter you've got there. Just think, if this hadn't been UA-cam and you'd actually been there, your "Spidey Sense" would have been going crazy!
Amen, Isaiah 53 is about Yeshua 100x over! Also, notice how Shmuley looks to lack Shalom and yet Browns countenance shows the love and Shalom of Christ Jesus. That’s speaks louder than even the facts of Isaiah 53.
I don’t understand the rabbi’s thinking. There’s no atonement for Hitlers or Bin Ladens sins because they cross a line, but he says there’s no atonement for his own common sins. Then how does one get into the presence of God? God just forgives some and not others based on how bad the sin was? So little sins don’t offend a perfectly righteous and holy God? It doesn’t make sense.
Of course you don't understand cuz you never actually read scripture and instead rely on your man made traditions:
Yet he was merciful;
he forgave their iniquities
and did not destroy them.
Time after time he restrained his anger
and did not stir up his full wrath.
He remembered that they were but flesh,
a passing breeze that does not return (Psalm 78:38-39)
This is a good point you made. Once a line is crossed there’s no turning back. I feel that line crossed could be subjective. Then who’s going to be forgiven and who’s not?
@@AncientCornelius-kn7yp before God there is no way to pay the price for any sin of ours that has been made since Adam's fall. 😮 ...but accepting JESUS' offered sacrifice is overcoming the DEATH-SENTENCE, that will meet us on the judgement day! WE should - and are allowed to ! - cover us with the blood of THE RIGHTEOUS MESSIAH: JESUS for every bad 💭 THOUGHT 🧠 we had or LIFE🤰🏿(!) we took THE SAME!
Dr. Brown's arguments are steeped in scripture while Schmuley's are emotional appeals.
G_d detests human sacrifice...nobody dies for another man's sins..duet 24_16
@@robbynealzucker3408
The given verse is not mentioning about sacrifice and only mentions the relationship between a father and son. God order Abraham to sacrifice his Son. It is known that even a lamb can be sacrificed as a substitute for people's sins. The Book of Isaiah, which is also a Jewish book, clearly mentions that this soul is sacrificed for a sin. If this verse is about Jewish people, it will contradict your argument, becsuse why would they be sacrificed for others' sins instead of their own? Additionally, who Isaiah is referring to as "we" and "our" when he mentions grief and healing. Clearly he is also a Jew n his mentioning his people.
Isaiah 53 (KJV)
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⁴ Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
⁵ But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
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¹⁰ Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
@@robbynealzucker3408
Nobody can fullfil Isaiah 53 but Jesus !
@@mmnsurahman5646for example which part of Isaiah 53 nobody can fullfil but Jesus?
Schmuleys argument about opened his mouth, seeing offsprings, how makes sense he atones the sin of Israel, these are "emotional appeals"?...
Okay I honestly have a hard time listening to this guy. His theatrics grate on my nerves, so I mean this as a serious question. Is he unaware that the OT describes the people of Israel rejecting God and being punished for it? Every snippet I hear he is describing Israel suffering for being so righteous. Does he think God broke his promises at the end of Deuteronomy?
Who, you are referring, Dr or Rabbi???
רבנים יקרים,
אני מקווה שהמכתב הזה ימצא אותך בבריאות טובה, ואני מתפלל שאלוהי אברהם, יצחק ויעקב וחכמה יהיו על לבבך. אני כותב לך בלב מלא אהבה ויראת כבוד עמוקה לעם היהודי. בתור חסיד של ישוע המשיח, אני רוצה לחלוק איתך מידע משמעותי מהברית הישנה שמוביל לגאולה ולהתגלותו של ישוע כמשיח. גילויים אלו נחשפים כעת על ידי חלומות לעם היהודי בכללותו.
הברית הישנה, עם השטיח העשיר של חזיונות אלוהיים, מספקת תובנות עמוקות לגבי תוכנית הישועה של אלוהים. נבואות אלו, שנמסרו במשך דורות, משמשות עדות להתאמה המדהימה בין כתבי הקודש היהודיים לחייו של ישוע.
נבואה: ישעיהו ז' 14 "על כן ה' בכבודו ובעצמו יתן לכם אות: הנה הבתולה הרה ותלד בן ותקרא את שמו עמנואל". הגשמה: מתי א' 22-23 "וכך נעשה כל זה למען יתקיים אשר נאמר על ידי ה' באמצעות הנביא לאמר: 'הנה הבתולה הרה וילדה בן ויקראו'. שמו עמנואל', שמתורגם ל'אלוהים איתנו'".
נבואה: מיכה ה:2 "אבל אתה, בית לחם אפרתה, אף על פי שאתה קטן בין אלפי יהודה, אך ממך ייצא אלי המושל בישראל אשר יציאתו מימי קדם ומעולם. ." הגשמה: מתי ב' 1-2 "ועכשיו אחרי שישוע נולד בבית לחם יהודה בימי הורדוס המלך, הנה, חכמים מהמזרח באו לירושלים, ואמרו, 'היכן הוא שנולד מלך הקודש'. יהודים? כי ראינו את כוכבו במזרח ובאנו לעבוד אותו'".
נבואה: ישעיהו 53:5 "אבל על פשעינו הוא נפצע, על עוונותינו הוא נפגע; ייסור לשלום שלנו היה עליו, ובפסיו נרפאנו". הגשמה: פטרוס א' 2:24 "אשר נשא בעצמו את חטאינו בגופו על העץ, כדי שאנו, לאחר שמתנו מהחטאים, נחיה למען הצדק - אשר בפסים שלו נרפאת."
נבואה: ישעיהו ט:6 "כי ילד נולד לנו, בן ניתן לנו, והממשלה תהיה על כתפו. ושמו ייקרא נפלא, יועץ, אלוהים אדירים, אב נצח, נסיך השלום. ." הגשמה: לוקס ב':11 "כי נולד לכם היום בעיר דוד מושיע שהוא המשיח ה'".
נבואות אלו, בין רבות אחרות, מדגישות את ההתאמה המדהימה בין הברית הישנה לחייו של ישוע. אנו מוצאים בו את התגשמות הבטחותיו של אלוהים ואת הגשר המאחד את האמונה היהודית עם תקווה לישועה לכל האנושות.
בזמן שאתה חושב על הנבואות האלה, אני ממליץ לך לחקור את הקשר בין הברית הישנה והחדשה, תוך הכרה בישוע כמשיח המיוחל. יהי רצון שאלוהים של אברהם, יצחק ויעקב יגלה לך את האמת הזו לגבי המשיח המיוחל.
בברכה, יעקב
Thank you I will definitely use what you have wrote when speaking to my Jewish Neighbors. God bless
A Gentile Looks at Isaiah 53.
From a Gentiles perspective, Isaiah 53 really looks fulfilled in Jesus Christ. 53 is not about the nations acknowledging a misunderstanding about Israel...it better fits the Isaiah Servant narrative, of God's promise of worldwide salvation to the Gentiles. Chap 42 starts with the Servant's great success in bringing salvation to the Gentiles. 49 talks about the Servant bringing salvation to the Gentiles,, and both calls Him Israel, and distinguishes Him from the nation of Israel in the same way a leader of people both represents the people and is other than them. 52 ends with the Gentiles being surprised at this Servants suffering, and 53 explains the purpose of His suffering being an almah, a guilt offering that atones for our sins, and brings forgiveness and righteousness to us. 55 identifies the One Who brings this salvation to the Gentiles as Messiah, and tells all mankind, Gentiles and Jews to repent and seek the Lord, and we will be forgiven.
If I didn't know one word of the New Testament, I would recognize this theme as being obviously fulfilled in history, the worldwide rise of Christianity, started by the crucifixion of Jesus Christ for our sins, His resurrection; and the viral expansion of the Church.
E V E R Y debate Dr. Brown has with a rabbi, the rabbi can never be logical or biblical just full of emotions and sometimes irrational. This is why Dr. Brown wins every time…
Rabbi Shmuley's opening statement 🤦🤦🤦 what on earth was that?!
Emotion. Pride. I don't think he realizes just how much he was telling on himself. That he was fulfilling the prophecies in his words and beliefs. I get just as much proof of Jesus as Messiah from Dr. Browns points as I do from Rabbi Shmuley's. His was just unintentional.
Self righteousness at it’s best.
Thank you dr Brown for defending our precious faith!
Shmuley’s whole argument was based off of stirring emotions. Brown presented good reasoning and logical arguments.
@@openigang The bible never says God is not a man, you cut the verse off mid sentence captain misrepresentation lol.
It says "God is not a man, THAT HE SHOULD LIE" That only mean God isnt like men in the specific way that He does not lie.
If I say "I did not go to the store, that I may buy you milk" does, that mean I didn't go to the store? Or does it mean I did not go to the store for the purpose of buying you milk?
If I say "I am not a husband who cheats" Does that mean I am not a husband? Or that I am not a husband who cheats? Obviously the second one.
That you have to misrepresent by cutting that verse of mid sentance says it all.
@@openigang In addition, that verse was given prior to the incarnation, and therefore would not contradict the later incarnation of God.
@@openigang Exodus 15:3 "The Lord is a man of war: the Lord is his name"
Does that mean God is a man? Obviously not, right? If "God is not a man that he should lie" mean God isnt a man, then obviously "God is a man of war" would mean He is a man, correct?
See? Anyone can misrepresent verses to makew them seem as if they mean something that they dont.
Angry Jew ... John 844 children of Satan
@@openigang John 844 is you
The distinction in level of revelation of Truth is so stark! Dr Brown bringing the Gospel! So good. Sadly, Shmuely only has natural, national, rational and human reference... because no Holy Spirit. :(
Shmuley lacks content and appeals primarily to emotional ploys. Dr Brown hinted at this in the beginning, knowing this is his best and only strategy
We need more debates like these Brown. This one was really good
all is blasphemy saying the invisible most power being with no physical body that his proper name is about him is unlimted blasphemy and idolatry iam former protestant idolatr pentecostal and messianic, now back to the Gof of Torah as true Jewish not fake messsianics that follow the grecor roman god jesus-yeshua
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@@RebbeYehoshuahLamberti you said a whole lotta nothing.
@@dualtags4486indeed💀truly the definition of a word salad.
@@RebbeYehoshuahLamberti Zachariah ch 3 vs 1-5
1 And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.
2 And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?
3 Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments, and stood before the angel.
4 And he answered and spake unto those that stood before him, saying, Take away the filthy garments from him. And unto him he said, Behold, I have caused thine iniquity to pass from thee, and I will clothe thee with change of raiment. This Angel is forgiving sins why is that so?
Now lets go to Judges ch 13 vs 16-18. When Manoah asked for the name of the Angel, He said his name is a secret, now in Hebrew language, that word means beyond comprehension (pailee, pailai) (Isaiah ch 9 vs 6) so can an Angel say His name is wonderful or beyond comprehension? Reading down to verse 21-22: 21 But the angel of the LORD did no more appear to Manoah and to his wife. Then Manoah knew that he was an angel of the LORD.
22 And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God.
So again, we see this Angel of the Lord called God.
@@RebbeYehoshuahLambertihuh 😕
Dr. Brown- thank you. Love your humility and dedication to the truth of the Word of God!
all is blasphemy saying the invisible most power being with no physical body that his proper name is about him is unlimted blasphemy and idolatry iam former protestant idolatr pentecostal and messianic, now back to the Gof of Torah as true Jewish not fake messsianics that follow the grecor roman god jesus-yeshua
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@@RebbeYehoshuahLamberti Nice, you turned into a prideful, self-righteous, pretentious, hardened heart person.
It’s clear that Rabbi Schmuley is out of his league debating with Dr. Brown. Pray that his spiritual eyes will be opened to the LORD Jesus.
Did you catch how Rabbi Shmuli kept reverting back to the false notion that Yeshua's atonement absolves a "Believer" of all legal, relational and natural consequences.
He lost the debate and the constant reverting back to that argument revealed it.
The Apostle Paul taught that the Government does not bare the sword in vain. There are consequences for our actions.
The forgiveness and absolution is between God and man through Yeshua. Praise His Name forever!!!
Amen.
He seems like an angry man. Pride keeps him from seeing or hearing.
If Israel is a woman and or a bride, how come Isaiah 53 speaks of a man? How do Jews not see that?
@@openigang God calls wisdom “she” in proverbs is it really a female? No. Jesus says he is coming for his bride not his son. I would encourage you to study this also.
@@openigang you didn’t read my answer to your answer 🤔
It's both/and not either or. But I do believe Isaiah 53 to be about Messiah, not Israel.
@@andys3035 that is my point. It is about a man who is coming as the messiah. This Rabi said Isaiah 53 is “all of the Jewish suffering will bring the messiah”. But Isaiah is clear that it is a man/male who will live a certain life and die. Plus Jesus said he is coming for his bride Israel/the church on his second coming. So both of their interpretations don’t line up with what the Bible says only what tradition told them. Even Jesus said that in Matthew to the Jewish leaders that tradition is more important to them that what the scriptures said plainly.
@@STAMPA_אמן אמן, אלוהים יברך אותך, בשם ישוע המשיח❤❤
MY precious precious precious precious LORD JESUS died for my sins and for all of those who will accept Him. "Man of Sorrows. what a name, for the Son of GOD Who came, wounded sinners to reclaim, Alleluliah!! What a Savior!!!!!!!!!!!. His Jewish relatives still hate Him though He has done no wrong. They hated Him then, they hate Him now. "Father forgive them for they know not what they do"
LORD please consider healing my cancer and encephalopathy. Also, my faith is suffering due to not knowing if Jesus is from You .please help my unbelief
In the name of Jesus. You are healed.
Jesus healed my cousin of stage 4 cancer and my aunt two years later of breast cancer, . ...by his stripes we are healed.
What makes you think that Jesus Christ might not be from God? The old testament proves without a doubt that Jesus Christ is the son of God. Read every chapter of the new testament, the word of God will help you see that Jesus Christ is from God.
John 17:3
"3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent."
A 100% raw fruits and vegetables based diet can heal cancer. Look up the benefits of apricot kernels in fighting cancer. Drink distilled water, stop drinking tap water. Tap water is filled with chemicals that can give you all kinds of diseases.
Jesus Christ is from God. Believe it, you don't have to doubt. Pray to God to help you see the truth of Jesus Christ. Please read the Bible.
There are no beggars on the streets of heaven. You are either an heir or you aren't.
"For he raised us from the dead along with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms because we are united with Christ Jesus." (Ephesians 2:6)
"And it is impossible to please God without faith. Anyone who wants to come to him must believe that God exists and that he rewards those who sincerely seek him." (Hebrews 11:6)
You are currently seated with Christ in heavenly places if you have believed in Him. You have full access to Him. He's the one who invited you in. You're welcome there. It is Christ who brings us into the presence of God Himself.
"Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me." (John 14:6)
You don't have to beg for healing. He already knows your needs, and He is most interested in your health. But above all, He desires your heart, your love, and your affections. He desires a close relationship with you, that is based off of faith in His greatest gift of all to you, His own Son Jesus Christ.
Why are you writing a prayer in a youtube comment section?
I wonder if Rabbi Shmuley believes that David was forgiven for his murder of Uriah.
Nice..👍👍
@@paulawallace8784 BELOW IS THE MESSIAH IN THE JEWISH TEXTS - Jesus is directly descended from David and He meets all the requirements below.
He would be both GOD and MAN (Genesis 3 :15; Isaiah 7:14; Isaiah 9
:6-7; Jeremiah 23 :5-6; Micah 5 :2; Zechariah 12 :10; Zechariah 13 :7;
Psalm 80 :17; Psalm 110 :1-7)
He would bring salvation to the Gentile nations (Isaiah 42 :1-4; Isaiah
49 :1-13)
Messiah would come before destruction of Second Temple. (Daniel 9 vs 24-27)
Virgin mother/birth - (Genesis 3 :15; Isaiah 7vs14)
He would be human (Genesis 3 :15)
He would be a descendant of Abraham (Genesis 22 :18)
He would be from the Tribe of Judah (Genesis 49 :10)
He would be a son of David (Isaiah 11 :1-2; Jeremiah 23 :5-6; 1
Chronicles 17 :10-14)
He will live eternally (1 Chronicles 17 :10-14)
He would be full of the Holy Spirit (Isaiah 11 :1-2; Isaiah 42:1-4;
Isaiah 61 :1-2)
He would be humble (Zechariah 9 :9-10)
He would be gentle (Isaiah 42 :1-4)
He would have a unique relationship with God (Psalm 16 :1-11)
He would be the son of God (Psalm 2 :7-12; Proverbs 30 :4; 2Samuel7)
He would be the Good Shepherd (Zechariah 11 :1-17)
He would be born in normal circumstances (Isaiah 52 :13-53 :12)
He would be born in poverty (Isaiah 11 :1-2)
He would be preceded by a herald (Isaiah 40 :3-5; Malachi 3 :1)
He would be born in Bethlehem, city of David (Micah 5 :2)
He would be seen riding on a donkey (Zechariah 9 :9-10)
He would be present 483 years after the decree to rebuild Jerusalem,
after the Babylonian Captivity (Daniel 9 :24-27)
He would appear before 70 AD (Genesis 49 :10; Isaiah 7 :14; Isaiah 8
:9-10; Isaiah 9 :6-7; Zechariah 11 :1-17; 1 Chronicles 17 :10b-14;
Daniel 9 :24-27)
He would be a king (Genesis 49 :10; Numbers 24 :17; Isaiah 7 :14; Isaiah
9 :6-7; Jeremiah 23 :5-6; 1 Chronicles 17 :10-14; Psalm 2 :7-12; Psalm
110 :1-7)
He would be a priest (Psalm 110 :1-7)
He would be a prophet (Deuteronomy 18 :15-19; Isaiah 61 :1-2)
He would be specially trained (Isaiah 50 :4-9)
He would remove the curse due to Adam’s fall (Genesis 5 :21-29)
He would be rejected at first (Isaiah 49 :1-13; Isaiah 52 :13-53 :12;
Zechariah 11 :1-17; Zechariah 12 :10; Psalm 22; Psalm 110 :1-7)
He would only be accepted by a small believing remnant of the people
(Zechariah 11 :1-17)
He would appear to fail but in fact be successful (Isaiah 42 :1-4)
He would be sold for 30 pieces of silver (Zechariah 11 :1-17)
His rejection would result in an attack upon Israel and the scattering
of the people (Zechariah 11 :1-17; Zechariah 13:7)
His rejection would be followed by the acceptance of a false Messiah
(Zechariah 11 :1-17)
He would eventually be accepted (Isaiah 49 :1-13; Psalm 110 :1-7)
He would be seated at the right hand of God (Psalm 80 :17; Psalm 110
:1-7)
He would suffer (Isaiah 50 :4-9; Isaiah 52 :13-53 :12; Psalm 22)
He would be legally tried and condemned to death (Isaiah 52 :13-53 :12)
He would die (Psalm 16 :1-11; Psalm 22)
He would be executed (Isaiah 52 :13-53 :12; Daniel 9:24-27)
He would die a violent death by means of piercing (Zechariah 12 :10;
Zechariah 13 :6-7; Psalm 22)
His death would be substitutionary (Isaiah 52 :13-53 :12)
His death would result in the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple
(Daniel 9 :24-27)
He would be buried in a rich man’s tomb (Isaiah 52 :13-53 :12)
He would be resurrected (Isaiah 52 :13-53 :12; Psalm 16 :1-11; Psalm 22)
He would bring justification to those who believe in Him (Isaiah 52
:13-53 :12)
He will be ruler of the Gentile nations (Psalm 2 :7-12)
He will rule over Israel in the Messianic Kingdom (Psalm 110 :1-7) J
Jeremiah 31 vs 31-34 - I will enact a new covenant with the House of Judah
Answer: He was!
David said to Nathan, “I stand guilty before the LORD!” And Nathan replied to David, “The LORD has remitted your sin; you shall not die" (2nd Samuel 12:13)
I believe he was forgiven but his deed didn't go unpunished. Notice he didn't have that baby and his family was in shambles. His son slept with his wife, his son graped his daughter, his son killed his son for graping his daughter so, there were consequences for David's action.
This Rabbi sounds like he is doing an oration back in the highschool
All the rabbi did was tug on your heart strings . Great debate . GOD Bless you both.
Funny how when Christians hear the same stuff they usually hear they assume it is good reasoning...and that the alternative is just emotional pleas.
May Out Lord Jesus Christ bless you with healthy and peace Dr Brown.We pray for the peace of Israel Amen alleluiah 🙏
Im actually really disappointed, i was hoping shmuley would bring real challenges, but his arguments were so weak it's pathetic.
Dr Brown has been very instrumental in explaining Hebrew Scriptures and steering the debates to logical reasoning and away from emotional appeals..
Leading people into messianic Judaism is straight up idolatry. The Israelites are commanded not to leave their Torah and to follow the God of Israel
@@D18.21 doesn’t get much clearer than that 🙏
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Who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name and what is his sons name?
You as a jew can you explain this for me?
Proverbs 30:4-5
4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
@@enockt6218 I’m not a Jew. I’m a gentile who has found the truth through the jew as per their mandate from Hashem the God of Israel. Not jsus the god of your xtian bible.
Gentiles coming to the jew
Zecharia 8:23 23 This is what the Lord Almighty says: “In those days ten gentiles from all languages and nations will take firm hold of one Jew by the hem of his robe and say, ‘Let us go with you, because we have heard that God is with you.’”
The mandate from God
Exodus 19:6
you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words you are to speak to the Israelites.”
The children of Israel bring Gods salvation to the world not the xtian
Isaiah 49:6
I will also make you a light for the Gentiles,
that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth.”
The only true word of God is in the tanach. The newTESTament is a test from God deuteronomy 13
@@seekers-of-righteousness Im not sure if you read my comment i ask you explenation of a verse did you see it?
Are the children of israel going up to heaven and down and have established the whole world? You gather the wind and water?
It does not say children its say his sons name.
Proverbs 30:4-5
4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
The problem with the Orthodox Jewish interpretation of Isaiah 53 being "Israel",
instead of the Messiah, is In most of the verses, there are 2 different subjects. One subject is represented by the Pro-nouns "He" & "Him", while the other subject is represented by the Pro-nouns "We" & "Our". And these 2 subjects cannot be the SAME.
Now we know that the Pro-nouns "We" & "Our", are clearly speaking of the people of "Israel".
But the Jews believe that the Pro-nouns "He" & "Him", are ALSO speaking of "Israel".
And that interpretation does not work because that makes BOTH SUBJECTS the SAME,
and it does not make any sense. Here is an example....
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3 "HE" (Israel) is despised and rejected of men; a "MAN" of sorrows,
and acquainted with grief and "WE" (Israel) hid as it were "OUR" (Israel's) faces from
"HIM" (Israel); "HE" (Israel) was despised, and "WE" (Israel) esteemed "HIM" (Israel) not.
4 Surely "HE" (Israel) hath borne "OUR" (Israel's) griefs, and carried "OUR" (Israel's) sorrows:
yet "WE" (Israel) did esteem "HIM" (Israel) stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But "HE" (Israel) was wounded BY "OUR" (Israel's) transgressions,
"HE" (Israel) was bruised BY "OUR" (Israel's) iniquities:
the chastisement of "OUR" (Israel's) peace was upon "HIM" (Israel);
and with "HIS" (Israel's) stripes "WE" (Israel) are healed.
6 All "WE" (Israel) like sheep have gone astray; "WE" (Israel) have turned every one
to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on "HIM" (Israel) the iniquity of "US" (Israel) all.
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So when you make BOTH ("He" & "Him") & ("We" & Our") the SAME SUBJECT, meaning "Israel",
it does not make sense and it does not work.
Because "He" & "Him" is SINGULAR, and "We" & "Our" is PLURAL, so they cannot be the same.
Isaiah 53 is talking about Jesus the Messiah, the suffering savior for Israel & the Gentiles.
@@falsemessiah751 O.K., let's assume that you are right about that.
There are still 2 subjects that are talked about in those verses and they cannot BOTH BE "ISRAEL". So if one of the subjects is ISRAEL, then who is the other "subject" talking about ?
Please translate verse 3 for me below...
Write the whole verse out for me and insert into the pronouns, "We", "He", "Our" & "Him", and tell me who each "pronoun" is talking about.
Thank you for your time....
3 "HE" (Israel) is despised and rejected of men; a "MAN" of sorrows,
and acquainted with grief and "WE" (Israel) hid as it were "OUR" (Israel's) faces from "HIM" (Israel); "HE" (Israel) was despised, and "WE" (Israel) esteemed "HIM" (Israel) not.
@@falsemessiah751 Is there any reason why you cannot do what I asked you to do ? Write verse 3 out and insert into the Pronouns, We, He, Him, & Our, who it is talking about...it is a very simple request. Thank you
@@falsemessiah751 Thank you. Maybe because the "Plural" pronouns "We" are talking about "Israel" and not the Messiah.
Because in verses 4 & 5, according to your interpretation, "Israel" has borne and carried the "Gentile Nations" grief, transgressions, & iniquities !! That doesn't work either I"m sorry to say, and I would be very surprised if you did not agree.
@@falsemessiah751 Another honest question that I have concerning Isaiah 53, and the interpretation that "we" is speaking of the Gentile nations, is why would God speak through Isaiah, who is a Jewish Prophet to the nation of Israel, but yet Isaiah is speaking as a "Gentile" in the "first person" ?
The Gentiles were not even God's people at that time.
So when you add that together with "Israel" bearing the sins and iniquities of the Gentile nations, it just doesn't work, because several times in that chapter, it speaks of someone being "Sinless", and that cannot be speaking of "Israel" or any other "Nation".
@@falsemessiah751 I think we can agree that we don't even have to address the "so-called" mistranslations of the "Christian" bible, as I am reading these verses from your perspective and interpretation.
"the LORD hath laid on him (Israel) the iniquity of us (Gentiles) all.
(verse 6c) (God put MY sin on Israel ?, not at all.)
"when thou shalt make his soul (Israel) an offering for sin" (Verse 10b)
(Israel is the "offering" for MY or Gentiles sins? not at all.)
"by his (Israels) knowledge shall my righteous servant (Israel) justify many; for he shall bear their (Gentiles) iniquities." (verse 11b)
(Israel bore MY or the Gentiles iniquities? Not at all.)
"and he (Israel) bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors." (verse 12d) (Israel bore MY or the Gentiles sin ? Not at all.)
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"because he (Israel) had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth." (Verse 9b)
(Israel did NO VIOLENCE with NO DECEIT in their mouth?) Your joking right?
It just doesn't work.
As far as the "Sinless" verses go,
"had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth" (v. 9)
(That can't be speaking of Israel )
The other 5 verses "imply" sinless status as God is putting the
"sins & iniquities" of someone else on another person or "nation".
Meaning the "sins" were not their "own", meaning "sinless".
Just like "a lamb without blemish" was required for a sacrifice.
Sorry, "Israel" just doesn't fit that description, it just does not work.
Take Care.
I was there in the debate in nyc they recently had a few years ago ,it was great …funny and every educational .
all is blasphemy saying the invisible most power being with no physical body that his proper name is about him is unlimted blasphemy and idolatry iam former protestant idolatr pentecostal and messianic, now back to the Gof of Torah as true Jewish not fake messsianics that follow the grecor roman god jesus-yeshua
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@@RebbeYehoshuahLamberti
Jesus was a Jew not a Roman lol even most Jews say this .
Secondly we believe in Yeshua because of the prophecies he’s completed .
And if it were not the case than why are there over 500,000 Jewish believers in Jesus and growing everyday ?
Also let’s not forget that Yeshuas first followers were all Jewish lol.
Christianity has Jewish roots Wheather you like it or not .
You sound like a hateful person ,maybe you should ask God to help you with that .
First of all. The lineage of Yeshua ( Jesus) is obviously Jewish. Its unacceptable and foolish to say otherwise, period. Secondly, you still want to be accepted by YHWH for your own works ( which are filthy rags according to Isaiah) just like Cain. That is true blasphemy There is and never will be any other atonement than that provided by Jesus
@@stevencagle9640 And....oh brother. Lots of Jewish Messiah would-be's in history. Just like lots of candidates in American history. If America were exiled tomorrow, you would find it appalling and unbelievable for someone to tell you that you missed the boat with Ross Perot or MLK or even some other random American name drawn from a hat who supposedly came to help America achieve Nirvana so that she no longer had to offer fireworks on fourth of July. Your very definition of a Messiah is fabricated entirely out of context and opposed to its purpose.
@@stevencagle9640we want to be accepted by God by his Mercy. The same atonement which was before Jesus which is repenting works also after Jesus. There is no reason to to believe & trust the NT that they're telling us the truth, there is a reason to say the opposite!!
The Rabbi talks like christians have never been slaughtered and sold into slavery etc ... The Jews aren't the only ones who have been persecuted. Not only that. The jews haven't been silent during these hardships either. They were revered for being a group who actually stood up for themselves. And still do, just look at them today. They are anything but silent during hardships.
Interesting debate 🤔
ONE FOR ISRAEL CHANNEL put out a program titled "Isaiah 53 - is it Israel or Messiah" which clearly shows the contrast of "Israel versus Jesus" being the Messiah✝️ in the ONE FOR ISRAEL presentation everything is put on the table and is very clear who God was speaking of.
We have an INCREDIBLE amount of literature from the Second Temple Jewish period. A ton of it. So we're aware of what the Messianic expectations were and the passages they used to look forward to the Messiah. We also have a few examples of "Messiahs" from that period that many Jews followed, even to their deaths... those movements were wiped out quickly. But Jesus? His testimony still survives today and is widespread, all across the world.
There's a lot of revisionist history in the Jewish literature since Jesus' ministry, particularly about those passages that Christians use to point to Jesus' foreshadowing in the Hebrew Bible (the same passages Jews used to use to point to the coming Messiah). There's a reason so many Jews turned to Jesus after hearing what he did and examining the Scriptures, it's because they saw and understood his fulfillment of the promises that the prophets gave us. The problem is now, after 2000 years, most serious Jews rely on the Talmud more than they rely on the Scriptures. I'm sure many Jews will argue against that fact, but they know it is true.
I would challenge any Jew who is seriously versed in the Scriptures to go and read the New Testament. If you are so sure in your faith and the correctness of your position, go read. It shouldn't threaten your faith if you are so correct. But you might find that the New Testament is written by Jews, sometimes for Jews in particular, and contain all the answers about Jesus that you need to know. Then you can make your decision.
There is a veil over their eyes. Jesus will draw those he chooses in time.
I was thinking the same thing. Its almost like they get a pass.
@@shivasirons6159 God is just. I don't think it would be as simple as them getting an Xpress pass.
Christianity is totally not antisemetic everyone. Christians just say things like “there’s a veil over (((their))) eyes”
@@avibenavraham do you know who the Semitic people consist of?
@@PeytonOver antisemitism is a misnomer, it is anti Jewish prejudice
24:40. Thats a bit presumptuous, the nations of the world FINALLY came to understand ethics and morality through the suffering of the Jewish people!?
Thank you Dr. Michael Brown! I live in Auburn, Alabama, and there are many in my area that love the Jewish people and pray for Israel! Yeshua is Lord!
Rabbi Shmuley rests his destiny on his OWN WORKS? He says he can take pride in his righteous acts... how many would that really be...?
And he confidently talks about paying for his own sins, as if that's possible.
And he kicks against the goads, when he says there is no sacrificial lamb for us... when it's in the HEBREW scriptures.
Lk 24:25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
Shabbat Shalom, Glad to watch this video...
Shmuley is speaking like a liberal activist.
I find Schmuley’s appeal more emotional oratory than exegesis so I’m sad there wasn’t more meaningful debate, where a position was simply defended logically from the context.
Dr. Brown won the debate. He give more references, evidences and more deep in interpretation than Rabbi Shmuley.
In third day Jesus restore us we may live in his presence to glory to the Father.
Hosea 6:1-2
“Come, let us return to the Lord.
He has torn us to pieces
but he will heal us;
he has injured us
but he will bind up our wounds.
2 After two days he will revive us;
on the third day he will restore us,
that we may live in his presence.
The Hebrew text doesn't say AFTER two days, it says he will restore us FROM the two days
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And the third day ?
@@enockt6218 is correct translated
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Prove my point. That is prophecy of Jesus.
@@enockt6218 not at all!! "He will restore us FROM the two days" proves that it have nothing to do with Jesus! Do you have any idea what means "he will restore us FROM the two days"?