From the Line of Fire team: Dr. Brown's has made this debate available for more than 30 years, but many listeners were not aware that it was posted on the RealMessiah.com website. You can find more debate videos and other relevant materials there.
Hey @LFTV, just been watching some stuff featuring Dr Brown on AGTV streaming platform. Really enjoyed his appearing and input - he made some good arguments and was great to hear his point of view. Hope there is more of Dr Brown on that platform in future too.
@MercyGrace.JC7 Rabbi Singer has agreed to do another debate on two conditions that the debate be live and that the original unedited tape be released of the first debate and Brown said he conveniently lost the original unedited tape wich was cleverly edited by cutting most of Singgers rebuttals while including the hosts comments inbetween such as telling Singger to quickly respond back then he clips out half the answers but leaves in himself moderating inbetween to make it appear smoother and more natural
Five months ago, I transitioned from being a modern Orthodox Jew to embracing Christ. Living in Israel, where nearly 99% of Jews do not believe in Yeshua as the true Messiah, presents a unique challenge. My move to Israel was unplanned and spontaneous, but I’m beginning to feel that God placed me here for a purpose. I believe Jesus revealed Himself to me so that I can start a ministry to spread the good news of the Gospels to my Jewish brothers and sisters. I understand that this journey will be an uphill battle, likely filled with heartache, ridicule, and the loss of friendships and family ties. Yet, something deep within me is calling me to pick up my cross and make disciples among the people of Israel. May the Holy Spirit guide and strengthen me in this mission. And thank you @Dr. Michael Brown for your guidance and teachings! ❤
Friend, I'm so glad you've embraced the Messiah. It's so important to connect with other brothers and sisters to grow in our faith. I also live here in Israel and am one of the leaders in a congregation in the center. If you're not already connected, I would be happy to connect you with local congregations of Jewish and Gentile believers to help you in your journey with the Lord!
I honestly find it sad that you gave up Hashem to follow a man. I hope one day you'll see your error and do complete teshuvah and go back to Hashem. May that happen soon. Were in Israel, do you live?
@@garyweiss7111 Accept for the fact that the prophecies of the Bible clearly point to Yeshua as the Messiah, we cannot ignore the fact that HaShem has hidden Yehsua's Name everywhere in different Bible codes of the entire Tanach for us. One clear example is found in Proverbs 30 where the question is asked "Who is the son and what is his name?" Proverbs 30:4-6 speak of a mystery, particularly to followers of Judaism, as it asks the question, what is God’s Son’s name? Who has ascended into heaven, or descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound the waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name, and what is His Son’s name, If you know? 5 Every word of God is pure; He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him. 6 Do not add to His words, Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar. Verse 6 warns us not to add to His words, which many are guilty of various faiths are guilty of doing. But now, if we take those verses in Hebrew, which runs from right to left, and lay them out rows of 22 letters per row (which is quite elegant, since Hebrew has 22 letters), here is what we find: We could call this the Proverbs 30:4 Symmetry; the red squares note the start and end of verses 4-6. The green text (seven characters long) are the words “what is his son’s name”. The yellow text states “add not to his words”. The horizontal purple text spells “Hashem” (or “the name” which is the Jewish traditional reference to God’s name), and the vertical purple text spells “is Yeshua”. So together, the purple text spells “the Name is Yeshua”. Although in itself, this proves nothing, it is nevertheless noteworthy because of the perfect cross form symmetry of the positioning of the two statements in purple, as well as their symmetry with the previous words, and the fact that this the name “Hashem” is perfectly inside of “what is His Son’s name” and both are tied together by the words “is Yeshua”. Here is the Link www.evidencetoconsider.com/prophecies-messianic/proverbs-304-symmetry Many more examples are even found, but in Isaiah 53 when talking about the suffering servant, all the names connected to Yeshuas crucifixion are found hidden in the bible codes. goldtmann.wordpress.com/2017/09/28/bible-code-yeshua-shemi/ www.mayimhayim.org/Academic%20Stuff/GodsWord%20part%202.htm An awesome G-d we serve, no coincidences with HaShem! And there is healing in the Name that Saves, and so all Israel will be saved soon with the Hand of Yeshua, when they too will see the sons eye/ayin, spelled Yud, shin,vav and ayin! No longer will Israel Gods first born be blinded.
I'm so glad that you have recognized Him whom you have pierced, Yeshua Messiah. God Bless you! And bless you for reaching out to your fellow Jews so that they can be saved eternally as well. This is truly the will of God on earth. Praying for your success, not only in Israel but around the world. Shalom Shalom!
Tova won’t do it because Pastor Michael Brown calls him out on his lies . He lies so much that all is listener only maybe one or two actually do their research . It sad
@@MercyGrace.JC7 Brown goes around telling everyone that Singer refuses to debate him but doesn't mention the conversation that they had when Singer said he would debate him on two conditions that it be live and that he release the original unedited tape and Brown said he conveniently lost the original tape
I would love to see Dr Brown have on Dr James Tour, who is renowned Phd Chemist and who is Jewish, and has become a believer in Christ. He has been a great inspiration for the faith.
Dang. I thought Tovia was stepping back to the plate after running from Dr. Brown all these years. I hope one day he faces Brother Brown again rather than random lay Christians on UA-cam
Dr. Brown edits his videos, bashes the Rabbis, the part of this video not here now Sid Roth and Dr. Brown spent and hour bashing the Rabbi and you wonder why the Rabbi doesn't want to debate him again. Go figure. The Rabbi took on people far better than Dr. Brown and won. You should listen to Dr. Brown and Rabbi Shochet. Dr. Brown really lost that debate.
@@garyweiss7111Brown is aware of the allegations that he edited the video. His response however is that Tovia was right there with them on which clips to include and exclude. If Tovia has responded to that response, please tell me. You will have to define bashing. Because I have seen clips of Tovia bashing the writers of the New Testament, but that’s fine if it is relevant to an argument. At that point I don’t consider it bashing. Likewise, Dr. Brown showing where the rabbis contradict each other or questioning the reliability of the Talmud is relevant to the argument that we can’t trust them. Even hypothetically granting your points, I do not see why that is a reason to avoid debating Dr. Brown. He is a Jew. He reads Biblical Hebrew fluently. And he is an orthodox Christian. He is a qualified opponent. Furthermore, a debate would be a perfect platform to expose Dr. Brown of his deceptive editing and rabbi bashing. It seems more like Tovia doesn’t want to debate with Christians who are conversant in Torah. Dismissing Dr. Brown for his behavior is an excuse not to interact with him- at least, to me.
@trentr8906 In the original video, did you hear the last hour? Nothing but putting the Rabbi down as if he actually doesn't know what he's talking about. Sid didn't bother to invite the Rabbi back. The Talmud is debates. Rabbis bring up different opinions and then come up with a ruling. So, of course, you'll have different opinions. I just find it so funny how J believers always bring up Rabbis and say, "You see Rabbi X says this about this verse so it fits J perfectly." Rabbis are holy to us so. We should listen and accept J. Then, in the same breath, call the same Rabbis liars who invented the Oral Torah and teach against the real Torah. The same ole listen to your Rabbis when I say so, but ignore them when you say so. Dr. Brown doesn't know Modern or Biblical Hebrew near as well as a vast majority of our Rabbis. To even hint I should follow him and reject the real authorities is a joke. Read how Dr. Brown debates. How he edits and all the stuff. You'll know why few want to debate him. Rabbi Singer took on the best and won. If Dr. Brown was truly fair Rabbi Singer and any knowledgeable Jew would destroy him. I can prove him wrong with ease. Feel free to pick one of his points, and I'll prove it.
@@garyweiss7111So did Tovia respond to Dr. Brown’s defense against editing this debate or not? If so, please tell me what he said. But the burden of proof is still upon you to debunk the “J” use of a rabbi. Because otherwise you are committing the same error you are accusing Dr. Brown of. You are mad that “J believers” accept the interpretation of some Rabbis but not all. Then you turn around and accept the interpretation of Rabbis who are not used by “J believers” but not the interpretation of Rabbis “J believers” were using initially. You yourself fall into the criticism of “listen to these rabbis but not those.” Here’s how I see it: the “J” use of rabbis is to show that even non-Christian rabbis in some cases interpret a passage the way Christians do. Therefore, it the interpretation cannot be dismissed as a “novel Christian invention.” Jews too can use this method against Christians. If a Jew finds a Christian commentator of the New Testament that agrees with the Jew’s interpretation, the Christian cannot write off the interpretation as a “Jewish perversion.”
The fact that Rabbi Tovia Singer refused to debate Dr. MB for now over 30 years after this one in '92 tells alot about the ungodly crusade Tovia Singer embarked on.
@@thedude9941 from what I heard Tovia Singer felt cheated, that most of his content was not included in the limited debate time, so after that he refused to even endorse the televised debate. Just for that reason alone is enough to just call a new debate to settle the matter once and for all.
@@robbie8129 I think Dr Brown said that the three men edited the recording together to get the time down to the 90 minute maximum permitted by cassette tapes. So this editing process was collaborative, he said. As for the video recording aspect, I think Dr Brown said that Tovia said he would sign the release at the end of the debate, but at the end was unwilling to sign it.
@@weiyishen He edits his debates and most likely took out parts that make the Rabbi look very good. One of the man reason he refuses to debate Dr. Brown is because the way he edits his debates then runs to shows like Sid Roth to just put down the Rabbi again.
I thank the Lord I discovered your ministry Dr. Brown. I heard the youtube recording of your 30 year old dialogue with Rabbi Singer. You debated him with such kindness, sincerity and Christian charity yet your arguments defending the faith were par excellence. Irrefutable. God bless you sir. May the Lord continue to bless your ministry.
Thank you brother Brown for this insightful debate. It was was like hearing Yeshua to Jewish leadership of His time. I will also stick to written Torah rather than folklore.
I pray the Lord softens Mr. Tovia’s heart through you Dr. Brown. I pray He helps you to see him the way He does and gives you an overwhelming supernatural love, patience and peace in your debate and helps you to sow what’s needed for His namesake. In Jesus Christ’s name. Amen. God bless you Jew. You are a Jew and an Israelite.
I loved the discussion, and understand why Rabbi Singer doesn’t want to debate again. Both are experts and did and a wonderful job presenting their sides, but it appeared that the Rabbi was having a more difficult time from becoming contentious.
Every religion and every cult can produce the same kinds of testimonies. So why should we accept yours over everyone else's? The Torah gets the final word not testimonies. Sorry to tell you J is against the Torah. So that is the final word.
@jesussays216 When someone comes who actually does the jobs, fulfills the prophecies and qualifications of the messiah, then we'll know who the messiah is. We'll wait. You can continue to follow the false messiah if you want, but I'll wait for the real one.
May YHVH open his eyes through the Torah and give Tovia a fleshly heart not a stony one. There was only one true rabbi and that is YAHUSHA HA'MASHIACH HalleluYAH!
Very amazing debate. I was very impressed with Dr. Brown’s responses. Interesting that Tovia read out the prophesies and asked if Jesus fulfilled them I said yes to all of them. So not sure what his point was.
Rabbi Singer at 19:00 lauds the fact, argumentam ad majoram, that rabbinic Jews, as the "last and only sect of ancient Judaism" vis-a-vis the vanished Sadducess, Karaites etc., must be the true people of the covenant, all the while ignoring the 'elephant in the room', namely, that on his own terms his claim defeats his entire position: the continuing and far more successful existence of that other ancient Jewish sect: Christianity.
This debate got Singer running so bad he's now in a different country and appealing to Muslims just so he can attack Christians. Unfortunately, many find him convincing. It would help immensely, Dr. Brown, if you do regular rebuttals to Singer, as you have done before.
If this debate was held today it would take a totally different turn. The narrators and guests did not spend much time on scripture. Any information outside of scripture is completely irrelevant. The only proof of anything that either religion holds true is what is written in the books. I can assure you that Rabbi Singer would be focusing on the scripture and that is the only thing that is important. The questions were based on things like Talmidic history and all of those things are irrelevant. When Christianity is held to the scriptures they fail miserably.
@@jonathanglabman Then SInger should have been able to show that, yes? Instead he ran and keeps running. On both the scriptural and external accounts (which they used to explain scripture), Singer absolutely failed.
@Norbingel Jonathan is correct. Rabbi Singer did show it and does in his books and videos. Christianity truly fails when scripture is used. Real scripture and not there tampered with version of the Tanak.
@@garyweiss7111 again, then Singer should have been able to show that instead of running for decades. If Singer is able to "show it" in his books and videos, it's only because there's no rebuttal there. Every rebuttal by Brown (and others like Anthony Rogers) makes it clear that Singer is completely wrong. Not only that, they show he's wrong in a way that shows he's either an incompetent scholar or that he's lying since he should know the claims he's making are wrong. For example, when Singer makes his "Christians tampered with/mistranslated the Tanakh" claims, the rebuttals show that even ancient Jews used the so-called mistranslations/corruptions exactly as Christians do and it's something Singer knows or should have known.
Isaiah 53:5 clearly describes a figure who suffers and bears the sins of others: "But he was wounded for our transgressions, crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the punishment that made us whole, and by his bruises we are healed" (NRSV). This aligns with the New Testament portrayal of Jesus, who is described as fulfilling this prophecy through his suffering and death. Daniel 9:26 foretells that "an anointed one shall be cut off and shall have nothing" before the destruction of the Second Temple, which occurred in 70 CE. This timing corresponds with Jesus' crucifixion, suggesting that the Messiah had to come before this event. The concept of God incarnating is supported by Isaiah 7:14, which states, "Look, the young woman is with child and shall bear a son, and shall name him Immanuel" (NRSV), meaning "God with us." Furthermore, Zechariah 12:10 predicts, "They will look on the one whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him as one mourns for an only child" (NRSV), indicating a divine figure who is pierced for humanity's sake. The sacrificial system pointed to a greater atonement. Leviticus 17:11 explains, "For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you for making atonement for your lives on the altar" (NRSV). This is echoed in the New Testament when Jesus says, "This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins" (Matthew 26:28, NRSV). Jeremiah 31:31-34 speaks of a new covenant where God's law is written on hearts: "I will forgive their iniquity, and remember their sin no more" (NRSV). This new covenant represents a transformative relationship with God, as anticipated by the prophets. In the name of Jesus Christ, I bless you all!
Singer is obsessed with Rabbi’s not God. All he needs to do is seek the kingdom of God for his answers. God of Israel will answer. Ask God if Jesus is the messiah. God answers early and clear.
No, no, no. That man is DOOMED, for ETERNITY. God instructed me not to pray for him when I tried in the past. It never happened to me for praying for the worst criminals and crooks. God always accepted my intercession for them. In fact, he told me NEVER wish hell for any human. I'm not wishing him hell. He brought that judgement on himself. It's a warning for those who try to walk in his footsteps. God is gracious and patient, but he has a limit. When a person crosses that threshold, he is finished. There is reverse. It's like Judas case. After betraying the Lord and waking up to what he did, he tried to repent but the Lord rejected his request. That's why he killed himself.
@@MAT-244 There is no limit. Singer is kinda like Paul. He’s trying so hard to find God in all the wrong places like everyone else. I’m going to keep praying!
What I find interesting is that every time we as a people rejected God and His ways, we were overruled by our enemies! Is it a coincidence that after the rejection of Massiah we have no nation or temple for over 2000 years? If Jesus was a false messiah that God allowed as a test, would we not have been rewarded for rejecting a false messiah rather than destroyed and displaced as a nation?
His heart has been hardened. He is on his way to hell. He brought the Holy Spirit curse/judgement on himself and his descendants. What a fool! He sold his inheritance in exchange of worthless stones "diamonds."
This is the debate that Singer did not sign off on because it was highly edited in a bias manor cutting out most of Singgers rebuttals and content in order to make Brown appear the winner. Every time Singer asked Brown to release the original unedited version Brown refused. Singer challenged him to a new debate on 2 conditions that the original be released and that the second one be live but Brown said he conveniently "lost the original recording" get your facts straight. Meanwhile Brown and cristians brag that Singer will not debate him again when it's Brown that refused to debate FARE and Singer is not going to be fooled twice with another biased chopped up edited recording making Brown appear the winner a second time. Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me
@@patrickmeyer2598 I just told you it's because Brown REFUSED to debate in a live format as well as REFUSED to release the original unedited tape and said he "lost" it
It blows my mind that Dr. Brown keep posting this debate online. In fact it blows my mind that he would post any of his debates online. Dr. Brown lost this argument just as he lost his debate with Rabbi Micheal Shochet of blessed memory and Rabbi Daniel Freitag etc. Dr. Brown never won a single argument. I am a very objective person because I love listening to people's views and opinions. I always look at a debate from both sides. Rabbi Tovia also clearly said his opinion does not count he quoted G-d's words plainly. And he did not just quote G-d he clearly showed that what he said is inline with scripture. Which matters the most. Rabbi Tovia Singer won this one. There is no need for rabbi Tovia Singer to debate him again. People in the comments praise Dr. Brown just because he said what a christian likes to hear. He himself is Christian too. Thats it. If you want to believe something you want to believe it. Rabbi Tovia Singer proofed his point. He does not run he doesn't need to run he won!
Tovia cant take browns old hebrew knowledge and must accept the torah not how the rabbis take it. Atoinment sacrifice was finished when temple was destroyed at 70Ad. The Messiah had to come before it's destruction Jesus did.
yes there is a very good video by Dr Brown titled daniel 9 and psalms 22, that shows Tovia making the most wild claims about hebrew, and Dr Brown refuting them, and Tovia just looks like a complete charlatan.
The Rabbi would not even address the text of Isaiah 53 as it is irrefutable scriptural proof that Jesus is the Messiah...He fully obviated...And Isaiah 53:6 specifically is proof text!!
come on dude.. i'm no fan of tovia.. I think Dr Brown is much better. But counter missionary rabbis have dealt with Isaiah 53 loads of times, every verse. It can be debated either way. Even Dr Brown has said some of Iaaiah 53 the he/servant is Israel, and sometimes an individual. Jewish sources show both views but nowadays most rabbis just claim it's Israel every time so they say 53:6 is referring to Israel. It is a bit of a stretch. But some verses of Isaiah 53 might need some stretch to match Jesus lie one saying he'll see his seed, when he had no children.. so you interpret it as spiritual seed.
heard this to the end and what is striking to me is how wonderful it is that there was a Messianic Jewish community in NY in 92...there was always a number that believed and may the Almightly multiply you all in faith; i have also commented on some of Tovia Singer's videos where there were some twistings of the TN'K only to have my comments removed; there is no debate - may G-d bring him to see His beloved Messenger of Peace - He knows Tovia has read the New Testament more than a TON of other pious christians
*1 John 4:1-3* *Test People Who Say They Have God’s Spirit* *4* Dear friends, don’t believe all people who say that they have the Spirit. Instead, test them. See whether the spirit they have is from God, because there are many false prophets in the world. *2* This is how you can recognize God’s Spirit: Every person who declares that Jesus Christ has come as a human has the Spirit that is from God. *3* But every person who doesn’t declare that Jesus Christ has come as a human has a spirit that isn’t from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist that you have heard is coming. That spirit is already in the world.
39:07 "if a wicked person turns away from all his sins that he has committed and keeps all my statutes and does what is just and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. None of the transgressions that he has committed shall be remembered against him; for the righteousness that he has done he shall live." - Ezekiel 18:21-22
Singer forsnt believe the Christ has comr AND YET he thonks his sins were forgiven by simply acknowledgement and asking for forgiveness. The torah says, " Without the shedding of blood, there can be NO FORGIVENESS for sin." Singer MUST disregard the Laws of Moses since he can have no forgiveness for his sin.
@@AnHebrewChild Leviticus 17:11 makes clear that blood is the means of atonement. 11‘For the fnlife of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you on the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood by reason of the fnlife that makes atonement.’
Rabbi Singer is destroying the faith of many Christians daily on his Tanakh Talk show hosted by William Hall! Rabbi Singer's persona is like that of a modern day Medieval Fantasy Wizard! Especially when he starts talking Hebrew and referring to God by the many references like Hashem and Hasbaruchu. Recently Rabbi Singer debated professor Samuel in Australia and professor Solberg in Nashville. He left both men Shell Shocked in the end. So far this modern day Wizard of Tanakh Rabbi Singer is unbeatable as far as I can tell. A Final Lengthy Updated Debate between Dr. Brown and Rabbi Singer is the only remedy! I believe Dr. Brown would prevail in a new debate👏
If you believe what Tovia teaches you will not have faith in Christ. Believers have faith in One True God- we believe in God and Jesus Christ his only Son who is One with his Father. Jesus the Messiah is now at the right hand of his Father and will return to judge the world and all anti-Christs, see Acts 2:34,Psalm 110:1-4, Hebrews 5:5-7.
That's because he debates people who don't have a serious background in Jewish lecture. He will never debate a Messianic Jew or anyone like one for an example One For Israel and many Messianic prominent rabbis he refused he everything he says it's nothing plus nothing equals nothing he goes around in a circle and refuses himself
@@garyweiss7111 Moses wrote about the promises to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob before the 10 commands (words) were given to Moses on Mount Sinai. Jesus said he came to fulfill these promises by the grace and truth of God.
Accept for the fact that the prophecies of the Bible clearly point to Yeshua as the Messiah, we cannot ignore the fact that HaShem has hidden Yehsua's Name everywhere in different Bible codes of the entire Tanach for us. One clear example is found in Proverbs 30 where the question is asked "Who is the son and what is his name?" Proverbs 30:4-6 speak of a mystery, particularly to followers of Judaism, as it asks the question, what is God’s Son’s name? Who has ascended into heaven, or descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound the waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name, and what is His Son’s name, If you know? 5 Every word of God is pure; He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him. 6 Do not add to His words, Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar. Verse 6 warns us not to add to His words, which many are guilty of various faiths are guilty of doing. But now, if we take those verses in Hebrew, which runs from right to left, and lay them out rows of 22 letters per row (which is quite elegant, since Hebrew has 22 letters), here is what we find: We could call this the Proverbs 30:4 Symmetry; the red squares note the start and end of verses 4-6. The green text (seven characters long) are the words “what is his son’s name”. The yellow text states “add not to his words”. The horizontal purple text spells “Hashem” (or “the name” which is the Jewish traditional reference to God’s name), and the vertical purple text spells “is Yeshua”. So together, the purple text spells “the Name is Yeshua”. Although in itself, this proves nothing, it is nevertheless noteworthy because of the perfect cross form symmetry of the positioning of the two statements in purple, as well as their symmetry with the previous words, and the fact that this the name “Hashem” is perfectly inside of “what is His Son’s name” and both are tied together by the words “is Yeshua”. Here is the Link www.evidencetoconsider.com/prophecies-messianic/proverbs-304-symmetry Many more examples are even found, but in Isaiah 53 when talking about the suffering servant, all the names connected to Yeshuas crucifixion are found hidden in the bible codes. goldtmann.wordpress.com/2017/09/28/bible-code-yeshua-shemi/ www.mayimhayim.org/Academic%20Stuff/GodsWord%20part%202.htm An awesome G-d we serve, no coincidences with HaShem! And there is healing in the Name that Saves, and so all Israel will be saved soon with the Hand of Yeshua, when they too will see the sons eye/ayin, spelled Yud, shin,vav and ayin! No longer will Israel Gods first born be blinded.
A father wants his children to get along and get a life. A father doesnt need worship he wants independance in his children.love faith works etc.religion is division.the church is in your head. Eat the word .the word is and was with god.
The Triune Nature of God In the Trinity, the Father is the Manager. The Son is the Lover of Operations. Holy Spirit is the Worker. The 3 in 1 getting things done. He is Papa-He is Healer-He is Helper. The World was created by only 3 functions that went like this: Father thought it. Son loved it. Holy Spirit carried out the plan. That is how the Trinity works. So man must voice, Father, what do you think? Jesus, what do you love? Holy Spirit, what should we do about it? That's our mission.
Im at 30:00 and gosh Dr. Brown is definitely yneducated on manuscripts. And the bible is being translated into 3,000 languages? 1200. Thats in 2024, at the time of this event, MAYBE 600.
I like 'the real kosher jesus' and 'jewish objections to jesus' but... Q1- Why don't those Christian missionaries preach to Muslims & Jewish anti-Zionists instead of Jewish Zionists though? This would have a much bigger impact on the world. If a Zionist Jew accepts Jesus as Messiah, then like so what? Supposedly Christianity views Jesus as hidden in the Scripture, so actually Christianity should view Judaism as already acknowledging Jesus without knowing. I say to do as Paul says in Romans 11. Be good and then eventually Jews will come around though maybe not in your lifetime. There are even already 2 million out of 6-12 million American Jews who are Christian eg Irina Krush, Hans Niemann, Bobby Fischer, Fabiano Caruana, et al. Some of them were not so religiously Jewish. (cf That's 2 million out of ... 15-21 million Jews assuming 9 million Israeli Jews. There are 2.4 billion Christians out of 8 billion humans. So 10-15% of Jews are Christian. Then 30% of are humans are Christian. Not bad.) But for Muslims, Islam rules their life. Converting a Muslim is like healing someone born blind cf John 9. It's hard to say a Christian ex-Muslim was never really a Muslim as compared to an ethnic/religious Jew who converts to Christianity. I think it's 2 birds 1 stone. By converting Muslims, - you tilt PR in favour of Israel, reduce radicalism, etc. - As Jews see what a difference you're making for Muslims who convert to Christianity, perhaps in time Jews will convert. Or better yet you'll help establish world peace, s.t. Jesus will come again, so then everyone Jew or gentile will convert. Q2 - Like Jesus, why must we not say woe to Muslim apologists, Norwegian chess fans, secular American/Western liberals, etc who are like Pharisees & Sadducees while Israel is like Jesus and I guess conservatives are like apostles? (The apostles are Christian, but Jesus was always and is Jewish!) Q3 - A thought : Why wasn't it Jesus' plan to get crucified to guilt Romans, spread Christianity to Europe and so then the UK a Christian European country gave Israel back to the Jews? ( Xz_Q4Bh7wR4 ) --- Please don't let Jews hear that Muslims consider Jesus the Messiah. Every Muslim who says Jesus is Messiah counts as like negative 1. So the number of Christians minus the number of Muslims is like the real number of those who accept Jesus the Messiah. 2.4 billion Christians - 1.9 billion Muslims = 500 million --- More info: - Ha6uVGB-Mtw
Please note the connection with the word "shoot" in these 2 Messianic prophesy texts... Isaiah 11:1 (NLT) Out of the stump of David’s family will grow a SHOOT yes, a new Branch bearing fruit from the old root. Isaiah 53:2 (NLT) My servant grew up in the LORD ’s presence like a tender green SHOOT, like a root in dry ground. There was nothing beautiful or majestic about his appearance, nothing to attract us to him.
what is most interesting is there appears to be different points of view. you wonder why the confusion, perhaps i should say/write, differing opinions, as God could end all discussion. but not knowing the mind of God, or claiming to, one could imagine God's intent is for man to find the answers through, well, debate, listening, reading, contemplation, prayer ... the amazing thing happening here is man has been given permission to seek and find his own answers. as if to say, find your peace, for at the end of your days, the test of life will be graded, apparently, pass or fail. interesting. very interesting. can you live or perhaps more importantly can you die with what you believe? are you satisfied? you can envision why God made man, can't you. you can see why God gave man free will. you can also see why God gave man an instruction book.
Tovia is a jesus mthyicist, oh boy seems the bible is right about reading and never coming to the truth, reading the torah and the whole tanak you can not see jesus and foreshadowings and about 200 messianic prophecies. That is a hard heart, like pharaoh who experienced 10 plagues that finally his heart softened and let the ancient israelites go, same with king nebakanzzar, hope tovia's heart is replaced with a heart of flesh as seen in Ezekiel 36:26, i dont understand what keeps people so rebellious when you read and your studying, may be like in islam when you read and have a question so you ask the local imam, and they explain away your curiosity, same with rabbinic teachers as they tell you everything that points away from yeshua hamessiac. Almost like dawkins whereas now no proof is proof, as it could be powerful aliens.
Dr. Brown... you got served. While you got most of the "air time" and had the built-in bias of a Christian moderator (of sorts) and venue, yet it was Rabbi Singer who had the scriptural, cultural and historical "goods." The key points and resultant logical conclusions here are frankly these: Ezekial 18 makes clear all sins of commission are forgiven when individually repented of through obedience from that point on and God remembers them no more. No "Savior" needed, no "Atonement" principle given or foretold. And as Rabbi Singer proved via scripture (Leviticus 4 & Numbers 15), in Judaism even lesser "unintentional" sins are paid via sin offerings, not via a "Savior", either. Isaiah 53 is revealed to identify the "Servant" as the righteous remnant of Israel (revealed over and over and over again from Isaiah 41 on). Had Isaiah meant the Davidic Messiah to be that "Servant," he would have so stated... just as he had already established as his pattern all other times he mentioned the Messiah or gave prophecies concerning Him. To think Isaiah would identify the Messiah everywhere else when so referring... yet strangely hide that identity behind a different term (i.e., "Servant") he had previously and repeatedly assigned already to Israel is irrational and ridiculous. Yeshua (Jesus) was most foundationally disqualified from being the Messiah... for not being a patrilineal (father-to-son) descendant of King David as required by ALL Messianic prophecies regarding His identity... regardless how many contemporary Rabbis, commentators or Jewish "friends" Dr. Brown might have he claims opine otherwise. As Rabbi Singer pointed out repeatedly, it doesn't matter what opinion he or others might hold on any of these questions/topics but, instead, what God says through the relevant scriptures. Further, Yeshua never fulfilled even a single one of the Messianic prophecies given by any of the prophets. And all Christians can claim is that He someday will... when He supposedly returns... they promise!
😂 you can go ahead and debate hin then, the fact that Singer refuses to debate Brown when he call him out in 2021 for a discussion about the revolution of the Old Testament, another 3 year as gone and he still hasn't replied, notice how he refuses to talk about this debate and never wanted to upload this audio on his channel in fear that Brown will call him out again
Isiah 52, 13 is not about israel This verb for exaltation belongs to god alone. Its kind of blasphemous to think that they are that much exalted … but then israel always only thinks about themselves Thats their problem They dont care about if any gentil knows god They absolutly cant be phased But god is Bc he created all men kind and he is not racist But He was wounded for our transgressions,He was bruised for our iniquities;The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,And by His stripes we are healed.--Isaiah 53:5 How are we healed by israel stribes? How did israel bore the sins of many But israel was wounded for israels transgressions? Since when in the history of israel is israel healed by suffering? He was taken from prison and from judgment,And who will declare His generation?For He was cut off from the land of the living;For the transgressions of My people He was stricken.--Isaiah 53:8 Since when was israel cut off from the living? Israel is very much alive. This makes no sense.
Dr Brown: Please explain how circumcision was RADICALIZED around the 1st Century A.D. where the rite given to Abraham, changed from a small clip off the tip of the foreskin, to a radical REMOVAL OF THE ENTIRE FORESKIN, taught by the Pharisees who claimed it came from Moses. (Paul later calls this mutilation or referred to the mutilators.) This is the dilemma of the Apostles on the subject of circumcision in of Acts 15. They had no right to change the covenant of circumcision given to Abraham. They were ONLY rejecting the new radical procedure, brought to the council, by the Pharisees, who also erroneously added a new twist, claiming it was "needed to be saved".
nonsense. It must be a translation issue foreskin vs tip of foreskin, its the same thing. There's no radicalization. And Paul's reference of it as mutilation has nothing to do with radicalization or exaggeration of the cuting. It was a mutilation indeed. He wasn't wrong.
For those who might be curious regarding the change in the surgical procedure of circumcision for Jews, note the following; "But was or is male circumcision a relatively minor procedure? ***Crucially, Jewish circumcision now differs markedly from the originally instituted covenant.*** Until 300 BC, the ritual is recorded as calling ***only for the removal of the tip of the foreskin***. However, when Jewish athletes travelled to Greece to compete in athletic events, they imitated their Greek hosts by pulling their remaining foreskins over the glans penis and tying them closed with a ribbon or piece of string. Over time, this stretching is reported as resulting in a fully-functioning foreskin. “When the athletes returned home, Jewish elders were incensed to see their Hellenised foreskins. To put an end to the practice, ***they instituted the periah***, which involved not only the complete removal of the foreskin ***but the tearing of the frenulum [the delicate and sensitive membrane on the underside of the penis] with a sharpened fingernail.”***
💛 There's no more time friends !! 😊 SALVATION PRAYER...🥳. Dear God I am a sinner and in need of a savior. I acknowledge your son Jesus Christ, who shed his blood, died on the cross and was raised on the third day. I repent. Will you please forgive me of my sins. I forgive those that have sinned against me. Lord Jesus I ask you to come into my heart, live your life in me. From this moment on I am yours. Thank you for giving me forgiveness. Thank you for giving me eternal life. In Jesus name Amen.
What puzzles me the most is Dr. Brown quoted Talmud to "proof" Jesus is messiah and at the same time say that it isn't a book of God. Why using it then? Does that mean Dr.Brown secretly believe Talmud? Dr. Brown lost this argument just as he lost every other debate against Jewish rabbi's.
😂😂😂noe judaism is suffereing so many will come to faith....53 lije talking to a muslim. zech12 10. so they will look on judaism the pierced nation. 😂😂😂😂
Tovia doesn't realize that the oral torah is no different than the book of mormon or the qu'ran. Pure apostacy, adding to and detracting from the WRITTEN word. Only the New Testament (New Covenant) is a seamless continuation and fulfillment of the Tanakh. The only true Judaism there is. It is the oral torah that has perpetrated the "blindness of the Jews," leading them away from God. While the New Testament completely supports the Torah, brings the world to the knowledge of Torah, the so called oral torah contradicts the written Torah and puts itself above God and His written word. Pure evil, and a lie. Pure apostacy. In reality, the oral torah doesn't exist in the Tanakh, or in history at all until long after the New Testament was completed at the end of the first century. The oral torah was written in response to the New Testament and Messianic Judaism/Christianity. As an objection to the New Testament. Which is why it contradicts the Tanakh so often.
The oral Torah is said to go back to Mt Sinai by most Rabbis, yet like you said you can't find it in the Tanakh or in OT history. The earliest the oral Torah can be traced back to is the second century BC during the Hasmonean era, which is also said to be the Genesis of the Pharisees as a distinct school of thought. And we know from the NT that the oral Torah was only followed by the Pharisees, and was rejected by the Sadducees and Esseans.
Of course a man cannot become G-d but G-d does manifest in bodily form to His creation specifically Abraham❗️ “And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, Jehovah appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am God Almighty; walk before me, and be thou perfect. And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly. And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying, As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be the father of a multitude of nations. Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for the father of a multitude of nations have I made thee.” Genesis 17:1-5
@@Doc7-mf2fe "In the womb he took his brother by the heel, and in his manhood he strove with God. He strove with the ANGEL and prevailed." - Hosea 12:3-4
@@t.scottmajor1316 "In the womb he took his brother by the heel, and in his manhood he strove with GOD. He strove with the ANGEL and prevailed." - Hosea 12:3-4 And he blessed Joseph and said, “The GOD before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac walked, the GOD who has been my shepherd all my life long to this day, the ANGEL who has redeemed me from all evil, bless the boys; and in them let my name be carried on, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.” Genesis 48:15-16
I find that this debate is rather sad, Mike Brown argues from the advantage point of the con man Paul, whereas Tovia argues from the advantage point that the Pauline Gospel is the foundation of the Netzarim Jews. Both can win using those ideas but neither is even close to the truth. Yeshua is not god! Yeshua did not die for your sins! The only way to receive eternal life is to follow the Torah just as Yeshua mentions numerous times in the Gospels. The Pauline Gospel was written 75 plus years before the gospel, therefore Paul has a great deal of power in the thoughts added.
@davidwenger9821 Yes. But since you don't believe or understand the mystery of the Holy Trinity it's no use trying to explain it to you lol! The Son died and later arose!
Let me ask you, and since you know all the mysteries of Yah. How does Yeshua say that you receive eternal life? As a added bonus I didn't say your god Paul. Go I will wait. Scriptures please
@davidwenger9821 It's important to let our Jewish brothers and sisters know that we Christians-real Christians believe in the same God they do! Christians like Jews believe in the Hebrew God of Israel! We believe in the Hebrew God of the Bible! We believe in Yahweh! We believe in Hashem! We believe in the God of Abraham, Jacob and Isaac! We believe in the great I AM! Except us Christians take it just a step forward... We believe it's all Jesus Christ! Sadly the Jews don't. They just believe Yahweh is just Yahweh. Hashem is just Hashem. Jews are almost home! They're almost there! We're reaching out to them, extending a hand as if trying to rescue them! Come on! Just one more step and you're Home! But sadly they reject Jesus.
I think youre dwelling too much on the past. Jesus was not the messiah, and The Hebrew Scriptures proves that very clearly. Matter of fact, just the Hebrew Scriptures proves it alone. I think its thst youre still dwelling on this because you were proved wrong, on top of using a another “christian” mediator to help you out. Jesus is idolatry. Its that simple. As simple as Exodus 20:1-3
The story of Joseph takes up 25 chapters of God's first book (Genesis). The story of Joseph reveals God's plan for the Sons of Israel / 12 tribes. Out of envy, they rejected their brother, who their father loved most, who had a vision of all his brothers bowing down to him. They rejected their brother, who Israel/Jacob thought was now dead, but was alive, who came out of the pit, and went to the Gentiles and became their Savior and Ruler. Later, the rejected Savior and Ruler was revealed to his brothers who rejected him, when they confessed their sin of rejecting him. Could it be any more clear?
@@VFXShawn Exactly it was Yosef.(JOseph). Simple, Joseph never died, none of his brothers never worshipped him as' god" it's reverence .. and if Joseph was such a Saviour how come Israel ended in bondage again? Jospeh never "shed' blood' for anyone... On top of GOD hates human sacrifices. See how ridiculous the idea is. On top of that, the one 'superior of Joseph was Pharoah ( GENTILE).... what implying just fell down... because you're going out of context.... Contexto talks better. Don't use the Cinderella book to interpret the story of Pinocchio. The Tanach interprets itself.
@@MTDMP 1. Joseph was considered dead by his father Israel, upon seeing the bloody robe presented by his deceptive brothers, and as a result, Israel was then known once again as Jacob as long as he thought his son was dead, symbollically showing that Israel is not Israel so long as they believe their Messiah (Jesus) is dead. 2. While it is true his brothers did not worship Joseph as God, that is because Joseph was not God, Joseph was just their brother, however, the dream Joseph had was the sun, the moon, and the stars all bowing down to him (Genesis 37:9). This dream was not about Joseph himself, but about the Messiah, whom all the nations will worship and serve (Daniel 7:13-14). 3. Israel ended up in bondage long after Joseph had died, his story had ended, and a new Pharoah who did not know Joseph had risen to power. Josephs story was only symbolic and prophetic of the Messiah, but his story like all human stories ended at the termination of his life. Joseph was not the final deliverer of Israel, the Messiah is. 4. God hates human sacrifice, yes, but God also told Abraham to offer his son Isaac, "your only son, whom you love", as a picture of what God himself would provide, as Moses and Abraham both acknowledge as prophecy (Genesis 22:13-14). 5. Joseph was 2nd only to Pharaoh, who represents God the Father in this analogy, with strong parallels to Psalm 110:1 "The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool." Joseph was the right hand of the Pharoah, and so pictures God and his Messiah perfectly.
From the Line of Fire team: Dr. Brown's has made this debate available for more than 30 years, but many listeners were not aware that it was posted on the RealMessiah.com website. You can find more debate videos and other relevant materials there.
You should tag him and that will notify Tovia about you posting this. It might draw him into another debate
Hey @LFTV, just been watching some stuff featuring Dr Brown on AGTV streaming platform. Really enjoyed his appearing and input - he made some good arguments and was great to hear his point of view. Hope there is more of Dr Brown on that platform in future too.
I struggled listening since there were advertisements seemingly every 5 min.
Dr Brown one ☝️ f the comment state that Rabbi Singer has asked you to do a live debate with you and you have denied him. Please address this ..
@MercyGrace.JC7 Rabbi Singer has agreed to do another debate on two conditions that the debate be live and that the original unedited tape be released of the first debate and Brown said he conveniently lost the original unedited tape wich was cleverly edited by cutting most of Singgers rebuttals while including the hosts comments inbetween such as telling Singger to quickly respond back then he clips out half the answers but leaves in himself moderating inbetween to make it appear smoother and more natural
A blast from the past! Thanks, Dr. Brown.
Five months ago, I transitioned from being a modern Orthodox Jew to embracing Christ. Living in Israel, where nearly 99% of Jews do not believe in Yeshua as the true Messiah, presents a unique challenge. My move to Israel was unplanned and spontaneous, but I’m beginning to feel that God placed me here for a purpose. I believe Jesus revealed Himself to me so that I can start a ministry to spread the good news of the Gospels to my Jewish brothers and sisters.
I understand that this journey will be an uphill battle, likely filled with heartache, ridicule, and the loss of friendships and family ties. Yet, something deep within me is calling me to pick up my cross and make disciples among the people of Israel. May the Holy Spirit guide and strengthen me in this mission.
And thank you @Dr. Michael Brown for your guidance and teachings! ❤
Friend, I'm so glad you've embraced the Messiah. It's so important to connect with other brothers and sisters to grow in our faith. I also live here in Israel and am one of the leaders in a congregation in the center. If you're not already connected, I would be happy to connect you with local congregations of Jewish and Gentile believers to help you in your journey with the Lord!
Jesus is with you! Amen.
I honestly find it sad that you gave up Hashem to follow a man. I hope one day you'll see your error and do complete teshuvah and go back to Hashem. May that happen soon.
Were in Israel, do you live?
@@garyweiss7111
Accept for the fact that the prophecies of the Bible clearly point to Yeshua as the Messiah, we cannot ignore the fact that HaShem has hidden Yehsua's Name everywhere in different Bible codes of the entire Tanach for us.
One clear example is found in Proverbs 30 where the question is asked "Who is the son and what is his name?" Proverbs 30:4-6 speak of a mystery, particularly to followers of Judaism, as it asks the question, what is God’s Son’s name? Who has ascended into heaven, or descended?
Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound the waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name, and what is His Son’s name, If you know? 5 Every word of God is pure; He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him. 6 Do not add to His words, Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar. Verse 6 warns us not to add to His words, which many are guilty of various faiths are guilty of doing. But now, if we take those verses in Hebrew, which runs from right to left, and lay them out rows of 22 letters per row (which is quite elegant, since Hebrew has 22 letters), here is what we find:
We could call this the Proverbs 30:4 Symmetry; the red squares note the start and end of verses 4-6. The green text (seven characters long) are the words “what is his son’s name”. The yellow text states “add not to his words”. The horizontal purple text spells “Hashem” (or “the name” which is the Jewish traditional reference to God’s name), and the vertical purple text spells “is Yeshua”. So together, the purple text spells “the Name is Yeshua”. Although in itself, this proves nothing, it is nevertheless noteworthy because of the perfect cross form symmetry of the positioning of the two statements in purple, as well as their symmetry with the previous words, and the fact that this the name “Hashem” is perfectly inside of “what is His Son’s name” and both are tied together by the words “is Yeshua”.
Here is the Link www.evidencetoconsider.com/prophecies-messianic/proverbs-304-symmetry
Many more examples are even found, but in Isaiah 53 when talking about the suffering servant, all the names connected to Yeshuas crucifixion are found hidden in the bible codes.
goldtmann.wordpress.com/2017/09/28/bible-code-yeshua-shemi/
www.mayimhayim.org/Academic%20Stuff/GodsWord%20part%202.htm
An awesome G-d we serve, no coincidences with HaShem! And there is healing in the Name that Saves, and so all Israel will be saved soon with the Hand of Yeshua, when they too will see the sons eye/ayin, spelled Yud, shin,vav and ayin! No longer will Israel Gods first born be blinded.
I'm so glad that you have recognized Him whom you have pierced, Yeshua Messiah. God Bless you! And bless you for reaching out to your fellow Jews so that they can be saved eternally as well. This is truly the will of God on earth. Praying for your success, not only in Israel but around the world. Shalom Shalom!
Like this if you want to see a Singer VS Brown 2024 Rematch!!
Tova won’t do it because Pastor Michael Brown calls him out on his lies .
He lies so much that all is listener only maybe one or two actually do their research . It sad
@@MercyGrace.JC7Singer actually has asked him to do it and he refuses to do it live cause he can edit it
@@alysabrumfield9607 I highly doubt that I heard Brown ask him many time . Singer lies a lot and many of his follower are being deceive .
@@MercyGrace.JC7 Brown goes around telling everyone that Singer refuses to debate him but doesn't mention the conversation that they had when Singer said he would debate him on two conditions that it be live and that he release the original unedited tape and Brown said he conveniently lost the original tape
@@MercyGrace.JC7not so familiar with the guy but how Jews did rabbi Tova save from Islam?
I would love to see Dr Brown have on Dr James Tour, who is renowned Phd Chemist and who is Jewish, and has become a believer in Christ. He has been a great inspiration for the faith.
great idea
Dang. I thought Tovia was stepping back to the plate after running from Dr. Brown all these years. I hope one day he faces Brother Brown again rather than random lay Christians on UA-cam
That's what I thought,too bad like to see some thoughtful indepth conversation!
Dr. Brown edits his videos, bashes the Rabbis, the part of this video not here now Sid Roth and Dr. Brown spent and hour bashing the Rabbi and you wonder why the Rabbi doesn't want to debate him again. Go figure. The Rabbi took on people far better than Dr. Brown and won. You should listen to Dr. Brown and Rabbi Shochet. Dr. Brown really lost that debate.
@@garyweiss7111Brown is aware of the allegations that he edited the video. His response however is that Tovia was right there with them on which clips to include and exclude. If Tovia has responded to that response, please tell me.
You will have to define bashing. Because I have seen clips of Tovia bashing the writers of the New Testament, but that’s fine if it is relevant to an argument. At that point I don’t consider it bashing. Likewise, Dr. Brown showing where the rabbis contradict each other or questioning the reliability of the Talmud is relevant to the argument that we can’t trust them.
Even hypothetically granting your points, I do not see why that is a reason to avoid debating Dr. Brown. He is a Jew. He reads Biblical Hebrew fluently. And he is an orthodox Christian. He is a qualified opponent. Furthermore, a debate would be a perfect platform to expose Dr. Brown of his deceptive editing and rabbi bashing. It seems more like Tovia doesn’t want to debate with Christians who are conversant in Torah. Dismissing Dr. Brown for his behavior is an excuse not to interact with him- at least, to me.
@trentr8906
In the original video, did you hear the last hour? Nothing but putting the Rabbi down as if he actually doesn't know what he's talking about. Sid didn't bother to invite the Rabbi back.
The Talmud is debates. Rabbis bring up different opinions and then come up with a ruling. So, of course, you'll have different opinions.
I just find it so funny how J believers always bring up Rabbis and say, "You see Rabbi X says this about this verse so it fits J perfectly." Rabbis are holy to us so. We should listen and accept J. Then, in the same breath, call the same Rabbis liars who invented the Oral Torah and teach against the real Torah. The same ole listen to your Rabbis when I say so, but ignore them when you say so.
Dr. Brown doesn't know Modern or Biblical Hebrew near as well as a vast majority of our Rabbis. To even hint I should follow him and reject the real authorities is a joke.
Read how Dr. Brown debates. How he edits and all the stuff. You'll know why few want to debate him. Rabbi Singer took on the best and won. If Dr. Brown was truly fair Rabbi Singer and any knowledgeable Jew would destroy him. I can prove him wrong with ease. Feel free to pick one of his points, and I'll prove it.
@@garyweiss7111So did Tovia respond to Dr. Brown’s defense against editing this debate or not? If so, please tell me what he said.
But the burden of proof is still upon you to debunk the “J” use of a rabbi. Because otherwise you are committing the same error you are accusing Dr. Brown of. You are mad that “J believers” accept the interpretation of some Rabbis but not all. Then you turn around and accept the interpretation of Rabbis who are not used by “J believers” but not the interpretation of Rabbis “J believers” were using initially. You yourself fall into the criticism of “listen to these rabbis but not those.”
Here’s how I see it: the “J” use of rabbis is to show that even non-Christian rabbis in some cases interpret a passage the way Christians do. Therefore, it the interpretation cannot be dismissed as a “novel Christian invention.” Jews too can use this method against Christians. If a Jew finds a Christian commentator of the New Testament that agrees with the Jew’s interpretation, the Christian cannot write off the interpretation as a “Jewish perversion.”
Dr Brown it’s amazing as always !! Wish I had his knowledge! Keep up your great work dr brown !! We need more people like you !
The fact that Rabbi Tovia Singer refused to debate Dr. MB for now over 30 years after this one in '92 tells alot about the ungodly crusade Tovia Singer embarked on.
What's the point of a second debate? They both got their views across right here.
@@thedude9941 from what I heard Tovia Singer felt cheated, that most of his content was not included in the limited debate time, so after that he refused to even endorse the televised debate. Just for that reason alone is enough to just call a new debate to settle the matter once and for all.
@@robbie8129 I think Dr Brown said that the three men edited the recording together to get the time down to the 90 minute maximum permitted by cassette tapes. So this editing process was collaborative, he said. As for the video recording aspect, I think Dr Brown said that Tovia said he would sign the release at the end of the debate, but at the end was unwilling to sign it.
@@weiyishen
He edits his debates and most likely took out parts that make the Rabbi look very good. One of the man reason he refuses to debate Dr. Brown is because the way he edits his debates then runs to shows like Sid Roth to just put down the Rabbi again.
@@garyweiss7111 I wasn't there, but assuming you watched the video, you know that Brown says Singer was involved in the editing process.
God bless you Dr Brown. Thank you for standing strong in the faith of the Lord Jesus Savior.
Amen!
About time!
I thank the Lord I discovered your ministry Dr. Brown. I heard the youtube recording of your 30 year old dialogue with Rabbi Singer. You debated him with such kindness, sincerity and Christian charity yet your arguments defending the faith were par excellence. Irrefutable. God bless you sir. May the Lord continue to bless your ministry.
Since that day, Tovia Singer regret debating Dr Brown and never debate him again, even though Dr Brown invite him multiple times
Thank you brother Brown for this insightful debate. It was was like hearing Yeshua to Jewish leadership of His time. I will also stick to written Torah rather than folklore.
I pray the Lord softens Mr. Tovia’s heart through you Dr. Brown. I pray He helps you to see him the way He does and gives you an overwhelming supernatural love, patience and peace in your debate and helps you to sow what’s needed for His namesake. In Jesus Christ’s name. Amen.
God bless you Jew. You are a Jew and an Israelite.
Great job Dr Brown!!
I’m praying for Tovia to have a wonderful conversion like Saul of Tarsus did. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🙏🙏
I loved the discussion, and understand why Rabbi Singer doesn’t want to debate again. Both are experts and did and a wonderful job presenting their sides, but it appeared that the Rabbi was having a more difficult time from becoming contentious.
Notice how Singer never uploaded any of this on his channel as he is fully aware of fear that Dr. Brown will call him out again for another debate
Dr brown did a great job and won in the first 5 minutes
I sir Tovia, am a testimony that Yeshua is the Messiah, amen !
Every religion and every cult can produce the same kinds of testimonies. So why should we accept yours over everyone else's? The Torah gets the final word not testimonies. Sorry to tell you J is against the Torah. So that is the final word.
@@garyweiss7111 not asking you to except my testimony. It is my testimony, that's all. Take it for whatever it is to you sir
@jesussays216
I have my own as well as so many other Orthodox Jews. I go by them since they fit with Torah. I wish you the best of luck.
@@garyweiss7111 keep looking for the Messiah, for He shall surely come, though He tarry
@jesussays216
When someone comes who actually does the jobs, fulfills the prophecies and qualifications of the messiah, then we'll know who the messiah is. We'll wait. You can continue to follow the false messiah if you want, but I'll wait for the real one.
May YHVH open his eyes through the Torah and give Tovia a fleshly heart not a stony one. There was only one true rabbi and that is YAHUSHA HA'MASHIACH HalleluYAH!
Very amazing debate. I was very impressed with Dr. Brown’s responses. Interesting that Tovia read out the prophesies and asked if Jesus fulfilled them I said yes to all of them. So not sure what his point was.
Wow Tovia lost every point he made.
Rabbi Singer at 19:00 lauds the fact, argumentam ad majoram, that rabbinic Jews, as the "last and only sect of ancient Judaism" vis-a-vis the vanished Sadducess, Karaites etc., must be the true people of the covenant, all the while ignoring the 'elephant in the room', namely, that on his own terms his claim defeats his entire position: the continuing and far more successful existence of that other ancient Jewish sect: Christianity.
This debate got Singer running so bad he's now in a different country and appealing to Muslims just so he can attack Christians.
Unfortunately, many find him convincing. It would help immensely, Dr. Brown, if you do regular rebuttals to Singer, as you have done before.
If this debate was held today it would take a totally different turn. The narrators and guests did not spend much time on scripture. Any information outside of scripture is completely irrelevant. The only proof of anything that either religion holds true is what is written in the books. I can assure you that Rabbi Singer would be focusing on the scripture and that is the only thing that is important.
The questions were based on things like Talmidic history and all of those things are irrelevant.
When Christianity is held to the scriptures they fail miserably.
@@jonathanglabman Then SInger should have been able to show that, yes? Instead he ran and keeps running. On both the scriptural and external accounts (which they used to explain scripture), Singer absolutely failed.
@Norbingel
Jonathan is correct. Rabbi Singer did show it and does in his books and videos. Christianity truly fails when scripture is used. Real scripture and not there tampered with version of the Tanak.
@@jonathanglabman
I'm glad that you see things clearly.
@@garyweiss7111 again, then Singer should have been able to show that instead of running for decades. If Singer is able to "show it" in his books and videos, it's only because there's no rebuttal there. Every rebuttal by Brown (and others like Anthony Rogers) makes it clear that Singer is completely wrong. Not only that, they show he's wrong in a way that shows he's either an incompetent scholar or that he's lying since he should know the claims he's making are wrong.
For example, when Singer makes his "Christians tampered with/mistranslated the Tanakh" claims, the rebuttals show that even ancient Jews used the so-called mistranslations/corruptions exactly as Christians do and it's something Singer knows or should have known.
Wow! Tovia is completely full of .........
I wish Michael would release the first debate they did behind closed doors that he recorded
Isaiah 53:5 clearly describes a figure who suffers and bears the sins of others: "But he was wounded for our transgressions, crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the punishment that made us whole, and by his bruises we are healed" (NRSV). This aligns with the New Testament portrayal of Jesus, who is described as fulfilling this prophecy through his suffering and death.
Daniel 9:26 foretells that "an anointed one shall be cut off and shall have nothing" before the destruction of the Second Temple, which occurred in 70 CE. This timing corresponds with Jesus' crucifixion, suggesting that the Messiah had to come before this event.
The concept of God incarnating is supported by Isaiah 7:14, which states, "Look, the young woman is with child and shall bear a son, and shall name him Immanuel" (NRSV), meaning "God with us." Furthermore, Zechariah 12:10 predicts, "They will look on the one whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him as one mourns for an only child" (NRSV), indicating a divine figure who is pierced for humanity's sake.
The sacrificial system pointed to a greater atonement. Leviticus 17:11 explains, "For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you for making atonement for your lives on the altar" (NRSV). This is echoed in the New Testament when Jesus says, "This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins" (Matthew 26:28, NRSV).
Jeremiah 31:31-34 speaks of a new covenant where God's law is written on hearts: "I will forgive their iniquity, and remember their sin no more" (NRSV). This new covenant represents a transformative relationship with God, as anticipated by the prophets.
In the name of Jesus Christ, I bless you all!
Singer is obsessed with Rabbi’s not God. All he needs to do is seek the kingdom of God for his answers. God of Israel will answer. Ask God if Jesus is the messiah. God answers early and clear.
No, no, no. That man is DOOMED, for ETERNITY. God instructed me not to pray for him when I tried in the past. It never happened to me for praying for the worst criminals and crooks. God always accepted my intercession for them. In fact, he told me NEVER wish hell for any human. I'm not wishing him hell. He brought that judgement on himself. It's a warning for those who try to walk in his footsteps. God is gracious and patient, but he has a limit. When a person crosses that threshold, he is finished. There is reverse. It's like Judas case. After betraying the Lord and waking up to what he did, he tried to repent but the Lord rejected his request. That's why he killed himself.
@@MAT-244 There is no limit. Singer is kinda like Paul. He’s trying so hard to find God in all the wrong places like everyone else. I’m going to keep praying!
@@wrlSivan16 Up to you, but as for me. I will not disobey the Lord.
What I find interesting is that every time we as a people rejected God and His ways, we were overruled by our enemies! Is it a coincidence that after the rejection of Massiah we have no nation or temple for over 2000 years? If Jesus was a false messiah that God allowed as a test, would we not have been rewarded for rejecting a false messiah rather than destroyed and displaced as a nation?
💰🪔📢💎best explanation ever open other Jewish hearts ,he is the only salvation .God bless you !
Is this the debate that Singer don't want to talk about, like ever? 🤣🤣
His heart has been hardened. He is on his way to hell. He brought the Holy Spirit curse/judgement on himself and his descendants. What a fool! He sold his inheritance in exchange of worthless stones "diamonds."
This is the debate that Singer did not sign off on because it was highly edited in a bias manor cutting out most of Singgers rebuttals and content in order to make Brown appear the winner. Every time Singer asked Brown to release the original unedited version Brown refused. Singer challenged him to a new debate on 2 conditions that the original be released and that the second one be live but Brown said he conveniently "lost the original recording" get your facts straight. Meanwhile Brown and cristians brag that Singer will not debate him again when it's Brown that refused to debate FARE and Singer is not going to be fooled twice with another biased chopped up edited recording making Brown appear the winner a second time. Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me
@@patrickmeyer2598 I just told you it's because Brown REFUSED to debate in a live format as well as REFUSED to release the original unedited tape and said he "lost" it
It blows my mind that Dr. Brown keep posting this debate online. In fact it blows my mind that he would post any of his debates online. Dr. Brown lost this argument just as he lost his debate with Rabbi Micheal Shochet of blessed memory and Rabbi Daniel Freitag etc. Dr. Brown never won a single argument. I am a very objective person because I love listening to people's views and opinions. I always look at a debate from both sides. Rabbi Tovia also clearly said his opinion does not count he quoted G-d's words plainly. And he did not just quote G-d he clearly showed that what he said is inline with scripture. Which matters the most. Rabbi Tovia Singer won this one.
There is no need for rabbi Tovia Singer to debate him again. People in the comments praise Dr. Brown just because he said what a christian likes to hear. He himself is Christian too. Thats it. If you want to believe something you want to believe it. Rabbi Tovia Singer proofed his point. He does not run he doesn't need to run he won!
Your not arguing why and it’s needed. I’m listening.Youre in a judgin mode of intentions.
Tovia has never prooven anything so far.
11:50 a.m. Dr. Brown dog walked Tovia. First round knockout. God bless you Dr. Brown.
koala bears first and last debate with Dr Michael Brown
Is this the one that couldn’t air because of Tovia?
I don't think so because of the pinned comment.
@@OnTheThirdDay I really want to see the debate that never aired. And I would love to see these two debate one last time
@@tylerbrown4374 Me too.
Tovia cant take browns old hebrew knowledge and must accept the torah not how the rabbis take it. Atoinment sacrifice was finished when temple was destroyed at 70Ad. The Messiah had to come before it's destruction Jesus did.
I agree 👍
yes there is a very good video by Dr Brown titled daniel 9 and psalms 22, that shows Tovia making the most wild claims about hebrew, and Dr Brown refuting them, and Tovia just looks like a complete charlatan.
Why do so many in his channel have good points?
They really rip into people.
And make good points.
What are you asking? I'm not sure I understand
@@AnHebrewChild Why are Jewish channels like Tovia Singers doing so well and still debunking Christianity?
The Rabbi would not even address the text of Isaiah 53 as it is irrefutable scriptural proof that Jesus is the Messiah...He fully obviated...And Isaiah 53:6 specifically is proof text!!
come on dude.. i'm no fan of tovia.. I think Dr Brown is much better. But counter missionary rabbis have dealt with Isaiah 53 loads of times, every verse. It can be debated either way. Even Dr Brown has said some of Iaaiah 53 the he/servant is Israel, and sometimes an individual. Jewish sources show both views but nowadays most rabbis just claim it's Israel every time so they say 53:6 is referring to Israel. It is a bit of a stretch. But some verses of Isaiah 53 might need some stretch to match Jesus lie one saying he'll see his seed, when he had no children.. so you interpret it as spiritual seed.
Yep. Tie it with Zechariah 12 and we see Yeshua/Jesus had to suffer first.
heard this to the end and what is striking to me is how wonderful it is that there was a Messianic Jewish community in NY in 92...there was always a number that believed and may the Almightly multiply you all in faith; i have also commented on some of Tovia Singer's videos where there were some twistings of the TN'K only to have my comments removed; there is no debate - may G-d bring him to see His beloved Messenger of Peace - He knows Tovia has read the New Testament more than a TON of other pious christians
Is that tovia breathing hard assuming in frustration while michael brown talks ?
*1 John 4:1-3*
*Test People Who Say They Have God’s Spirit*
*4* Dear friends, don’t believe all people who say that they have the Spirit. Instead, test them. See whether the spirit they have is from God, because there are many false prophets in the world. *2* This is how you can recognize God’s Spirit: Every person who declares that Jesus Christ has come as a human has the Spirit that is from God. *3* But every person who doesn’t declare that Jesus Christ has come as a human has a spirit that isn’t from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist that you have heard is coming. That spirit is already in the world.
This does not sound like Rabbi Singer. Put up a public request to debate Rabbi Singer.
39:07 "if a wicked person turns away from all his sins that he has committed and keeps all my statutes and does what is just and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. None of the transgressions that he has committed shall be remembered against him; for the righteousness that he has done he shall live." - Ezekiel 18:21-22
"... and keeps all my statutes," would this require a blood sacrifice under the Sinai Covenant or no?
@@matthewsouthwell3500no need, only if temple is restored
Youngsters.
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Release the tapes!
This!!!!
Singer forsnt believe the Christ has comr AND YET he thonks his sins were forgiven by simply acknowledgement and asking for forgiveness.
The torah says, " Without the shedding of blood, there can be NO FORGIVENESS for sin."
Singer MUST disregard the Laws of Moses since he can have no forgiveness for his sin.
Where does it say that in Torah?
@@AnHebrewChild Leviticus 17:11 makes clear that blood is the means of atonement.
11‘For the fnlife of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you on the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood by reason of the fnlife that makes atonement.’
@@ShooterReview thanks for sharing your thoughts.
@@AnHebrewChild your welcome, brother 🙏
Was the new Testament right about the 2nd temple in Jerusalem?
Tovia is slimy. Squirmy. Everything he can do to twist the text away from Jesus.
11:38 😂😂
Rabbi Singer is destroying the faith of many Christians daily on his Tanakh Talk show hosted by William Hall! Rabbi Singer's persona is like that of a modern day Medieval Fantasy Wizard! Especially when he starts talking Hebrew and referring to God by the many references like Hashem and Hasbaruchu. Recently Rabbi Singer debated professor Samuel in Australia and professor Solberg in Nashville. He left both men Shell Shocked in the end.
So far this modern day Wizard of Tanakh Rabbi Singer is unbeatable as far as I can tell.
A Final Lengthy Updated Debate between Dr. Brown and Rabbi Singer is the only remedy! I believe Dr. Brown would prevail in a new debate👏
If you believe what Tovia teaches you will not have faith in Christ. Believers have faith in One True God- we believe in God and Jesus Christ his only Son who is One with his Father. Jesus the Messiah is now at the right hand of his Father and will return to judge the world and all anti-Christs, see Acts 2:34,Psalm 110:1-4, Hebrews 5:5-7.
That's because he debates people who don't have a serious background in Jewish lecture. He will never debate a Messianic Jew or anyone like one for an example One For Israel and many Messianic prominent rabbis he refused he everything he says it's nothing plus nothing equals nothing he goes around in a circle and refuses himself
I hope him and Willian Hall finds only great success in bringing Jews back to Torah and away from other religions and idolatry.
@@garyweiss7111 Moses wrote about the promises to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob before the 10 commands (words) were given to Moses on Mount Sinai. Jesus said he came to fulfill these promises by the grace and truth of God.
@craigboone2845
J didn't fulfill any jobs, prophecies, or qualifications of the messiah
He by Torah law can't be king. He didn't fulfill anything.
Bro got cooked
Accept for the fact that the prophecies of the Bible clearly point to Yeshua as the Messiah, we cannot ignore the fact that HaShem has hidden Yehsua's Name everywhere in different Bible codes of the entire Tanach for us.
One clear example is found in Proverbs 30 where the question is asked "Who is the son and what is his name?" Proverbs 30:4-6 speak of a mystery, particularly to followers of Judaism, as it asks the question, what is God’s Son’s name? Who has ascended into heaven, or descended?
Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound the waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name, and what is His Son’s name, If you know? 5 Every word of God is pure; He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him. 6 Do not add to His words, Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar. Verse 6 warns us not to add to His words, which many are guilty of various faiths are guilty of doing. But now, if we take those verses in Hebrew, which runs from right to left, and lay them out rows of 22 letters per row (which is quite elegant, since Hebrew has 22 letters), here is what we find:
We could call this the Proverbs 30:4 Symmetry; the red squares note the start and end of verses 4-6. The green text (seven characters long) are the words “what is his son’s name”. The yellow text states “add not to his words”. The horizontal purple text spells “Hashem” (or “the name” which is the Jewish traditional reference to God’s name), and the vertical purple text spells “is Yeshua”. So together, the purple text spells “the Name is Yeshua”. Although in itself, this proves nothing, it is nevertheless noteworthy because of the perfect cross form symmetry of the positioning of the two statements in purple, as well as their symmetry with the previous words, and the fact that this the name “Hashem” is perfectly inside of “what is His Son’s name” and both are tied together by the words “is Yeshua”.
Here is the Link www.evidencetoconsider.com/prophecies-messianic/proverbs-304-symmetry
Many more examples are even found, but in Isaiah 53 when talking about the suffering servant, all the names connected to Yeshuas crucifixion are found hidden in the bible codes.
goldtmann.wordpress.com/2017/09/28/bible-code-yeshua-shemi/
www.mayimhayim.org/Academic%20Stuff/GodsWord%20part%202.htm
An awesome G-d we serve, no coincidences with HaShem! And there is healing in the Name that Saves, and so all Israel will be saved soon with the Hand of Yeshua, when they too will see the sons eye/ayin, spelled Yud, shin,vav and ayin! No longer will Israel Gods first born be blinded.
Zechariah 9:9
Zechariah 11:12,13
Zechariah 12:10-13:1
Zechariah 14:3,4
I this happening?!
Tovia, if you continue to reject the messiah despite the evidence, by all means, you can go to hell
A father wants his children to get along and get a life. A father doesnt need worship he wants independance in his children.love faith works etc.religion is division.the church is in your head. Eat the word .the word is and was with god.
The Triune Nature of God
In the Trinity,
the Father is the Manager.
The Son is the Lover of Operations.
Holy Spirit is the Worker.
The 3 in 1 getting things done.
He is Papa-He is Healer-He is Helper.
The World was created by only 3 functions that went like this:
Father thought it.
Son loved it.
Holy Spirit carried out the plan.
That is how the Trinity works.
So man must voice,
Father, what do you think?
Jesus, what do you love?
Holy Spirit, what should we do about it?
That's our mission.
Im at 30:00 and gosh Dr. Brown is definitely yneducated on manuscripts. And the bible is being translated into 3,000 languages? 1200. Thats in 2024, at the time of this event, MAYBE 600.
Ah dang, 40:00 is pretty solid; the only means of atoning for unintentional sins is sacrifice.
I like 'the real kosher jesus' and 'jewish objections to jesus' but... Q1- Why don't those Christian missionaries preach to Muslims & Jewish anti-Zionists instead of Jewish Zionists though? This would have a much bigger impact on the world.
If a Zionist Jew accepts Jesus as Messiah, then like so what? Supposedly Christianity views Jesus as hidden in the Scripture, so actually Christianity should view Judaism as already acknowledging Jesus without knowing. I say to do as Paul says in Romans 11. Be good and then eventually Jews will come around though maybe not in your lifetime. There are even already 2 million out of 6-12 million American Jews who are Christian eg Irina Krush, Hans Niemann, Bobby Fischer, Fabiano Caruana, et al. Some of them were not so religiously Jewish. (cf That's 2 million out of ... 15-21 million Jews assuming 9 million Israeli Jews. There are 2.4 billion Christians out of 8 billion humans. So 10-15% of Jews are Christian. Then 30% of are humans are Christian. Not bad.)
But for Muslims, Islam rules their life. Converting a Muslim is like healing someone born blind cf John 9. It's hard to say a Christian ex-Muslim was never really a Muslim as compared to an ethnic/religious Jew who converts to Christianity.
I think it's 2 birds 1 stone. By converting Muslims,
- you tilt PR in favour of Israel, reduce radicalism, etc.
- As Jews see what a difference you're making for Muslims who convert to Christianity, perhaps in time Jews will convert. Or better yet you'll help establish world peace, s.t. Jesus will come again, so then everyone Jew or gentile will convert.
Q2 - Like Jesus, why must we not say woe to Muslim apologists, Norwegian chess fans, secular American/Western liberals, etc who are like Pharisees & Sadducees while Israel is like Jesus and I guess conservatives are like apostles? (The apostles are Christian, but Jesus was always and is Jewish!)
Q3 - A thought : Why wasn't it Jesus' plan to get crucified to guilt Romans, spread Christianity to Europe and so then the UK a Christian European country gave Israel back to the Jews? ( Xz_Q4Bh7wR4 )
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Please don't let Jews hear that Muslims consider Jesus the Messiah. Every Muslim who says Jesus is Messiah counts as like negative 1. So the number of Christians minus the number of Muslims is like the real number of those who accept Jesus the Messiah.
2.4 billion Christians
- 1.9 billion Muslims
= 500 million
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More info:
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Please note the connection with the word "shoot" in these 2 Messianic prophesy texts...
Isaiah 11:1 (NLT) Out of the stump of David’s family will grow a SHOOT yes, a new Branch bearing fruit from the old root.
Isaiah 53:2 (NLT) My servant grew up in the LORD ’s presence like a tender green SHOOT, like a root in dry ground. There was nothing beautiful or majestic about his appearance, nothing to attract us to him.
I noticed this too, the Shoot of Jesse, the Shoot out of dry ground, great catch! Isaiah 53 is about the Messiah from Jesse!
Tovia needs scripture to back up!
what is most interesting is there appears to be different points of view.
you wonder why the confusion, perhaps i should say/write, differing opinions, as God could end all discussion.
but not knowing the mind of God, or claiming to, one could imagine God's intent is for man to find the answers through, well, debate, listening, reading, contemplation, prayer ... the amazing thing happening here is man has been given permission to seek and find his own answers. as if to say, find your peace, for at the end of your days, the test of life will be graded, apparently, pass or fail.
interesting. very interesting. can you live or perhaps more importantly can you die with what you believe? are you satisfied?
you can envision why God made man, can't you. you can see why God gave man free will. you can also see why God gave man an instruction book.
Tovia is a jesus mthyicist, oh boy seems the bible is right about reading and never coming to the truth, reading the torah and the whole tanak you can not see jesus and foreshadowings and about 200 messianic prophecies. That is a hard heart, like pharaoh who experienced 10 plagues that finally his heart softened and let the ancient israelites go, same with king nebakanzzar, hope tovia's heart is replaced with a heart of flesh as seen in Ezekiel 36:26, i dont understand what keeps people so rebellious when you read and your studying, may be like in islam when you read and have a question so you ask the local imam, and they explain away your curiosity, same with rabbinic teachers as they tell you everything that points away from yeshua hamessiac. Almost like dawkins whereas now no proof is proof, as it could be powerful aliens.
Raabi singer is definitely a deceiver. Cause king Salomon said there’s not one righteous man on earth that doesn’t sin.
Harden not your heart. Jesus is waiting for you.
Dr. Brown... you got served. While you got most of the "air time" and had the built-in bias of a Christian moderator (of sorts) and venue, yet it was Rabbi Singer who had the scriptural, cultural and historical "goods." The key points and resultant logical conclusions here are frankly these:
Ezekial 18 makes clear all sins of commission are forgiven when individually repented of through obedience from that point on and God remembers them no more. No "Savior" needed, no "Atonement" principle given or foretold. And as Rabbi Singer proved via scripture (Leviticus 4 & Numbers 15), in Judaism even lesser "unintentional" sins are paid via sin offerings, not via a "Savior", either.
Isaiah 53 is revealed to identify the "Servant" as the righteous remnant of Israel (revealed over and over and over again from Isaiah 41 on). Had Isaiah meant the Davidic Messiah to be that "Servant," he would have so stated... just as he had already established as his pattern all other times he mentioned the Messiah or gave prophecies concerning Him. To think Isaiah would identify the Messiah everywhere else when so referring... yet strangely hide that identity behind a different term (i.e., "Servant") he had previously and repeatedly assigned already to Israel is irrational and ridiculous.
Yeshua (Jesus) was most foundationally disqualified from being the Messiah... for not being a patrilineal (father-to-son) descendant of King David as required by ALL Messianic prophecies regarding His identity... regardless how many contemporary Rabbis, commentators or Jewish "friends" Dr. Brown might have he claims opine otherwise. As Rabbi Singer pointed out repeatedly, it doesn't matter what opinion he or others might hold on any of these questions/topics but, instead, what God says through the relevant scriptures. Further, Yeshua never fulfilled even a single one of the Messianic prophecies given by any of the prophets. And all Christians can claim is that He someday will... when He supposedly returns... they promise!
😂 you can go ahead and debate hin then, the fact that Singer refuses to debate Brown when he call him out in 2021 for a discussion about the revolution of the Old Testament, another 3 year as gone and he still hasn't replied, notice how he refuses to talk about this debate and never wanted to upload this audio on his channel in fear that Brown will call him out again
Isiah 52, 13 is not about israel
This verb for exaltation belongs to god alone. Its kind of blasphemous to think that they are that much exalted … but then israel always only thinks about themselves
Thats their problem
They dont care about if any gentil knows god
They absolutly cant be phased
But god is
Bc he created all men kind and he is not racist
But He was wounded for our transgressions,He was bruised for our iniquities;The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,And by His stripes we are healed.--Isaiah 53:5
How are we healed by israel stribes?
How did israel bore the sins of many
But israel was wounded for israels transgressions? Since when in the history of israel is israel healed by suffering?
He was taken from prison and from judgment,And who will declare His generation?For He was cut off from the land of the living;For the transgressions of My people He was stricken.--Isaiah 53:8
Since when was israel cut off from the living? Israel is very much alive.
This makes no sense.
Dr Brown: Please explain how circumcision was RADICALIZED around the 1st Century A.D. where the rite given to Abraham, changed from a small clip off the tip of the foreskin, to a radical REMOVAL OF THE ENTIRE FORESKIN, taught by the Pharisees who claimed it came from Moses. (Paul later calls this mutilation or referred to the mutilators.) This is the dilemma of the Apostles on the subject of circumcision in of Acts 15. They had no right to change the covenant of circumcision given to Abraham. They were ONLY rejecting the new radical procedure, brought to the council, by the Pharisees, who also erroneously added a new twist, claiming it was "needed to be saved".
nonsense. It must be a translation issue foreskin vs tip of foreskin, its the same thing. There's no radicalization. And Paul's reference of it as mutilation has nothing to do with radicalization or exaggeration of the cuting. It was a mutilation indeed. He wasn't wrong.
@@OneStepToday Why don't you study this subject before you step into a discussion about which you are not educated???
For those who might be curious regarding the change in the surgical procedure of circumcision for Jews, note the following;
"But was or is male circumcision a relatively minor procedure?
***Crucially, Jewish circumcision now differs markedly from the originally instituted covenant.***
Until 300 BC, the ritual is recorded as calling
***only for the removal of the tip of the foreskin***.
However, when Jewish athletes travelled to Greece to compete in athletic events, they imitated their Greek hosts by pulling their remaining foreskins over the glans penis and tying them closed with a ribbon or piece of string. Over time, this stretching is reported as resulting in a fully-functioning foreskin.
“When the athletes returned home, Jewish elders were incensed to see their Hellenised foreskins. To put an end to the practice, ***they instituted the periah***, which involved not only the complete removal of the foreskin
***but the tearing of the frenulum [the delicate and sensitive membrane on the underside of the penis] with a sharpened fingernail.”***
@@mbrown6837 🎯
The moderator couldn’t keep from interrupting? Just Awful!
💛 There's no more time friends !! 😊 SALVATION PRAYER...🥳.
Dear God I am a sinner and in need of a savior. I acknowledge your son Jesus Christ, who shed his blood, died on the cross and was raised on the third day.
I repent. Will you please forgive me of my sins. I forgive those that have sinned against me. Lord Jesus I ask you to come into my heart, live your life in me. From this moment on I am yours. Thank you for giving me forgiveness. Thank you for giving me eternal life. In Jesus name Amen.
Do not add to or subtract from these commands I am giving you. Just obey the commands of the Lord your God that I am giving you.
Deuteronomy 4:2
What puzzles me the most is Dr. Brown quoted Talmud to "proof" Jesus is messiah and at the same time say that it isn't a book of God. Why using it then? Does that mean Dr.Brown secretly believe Talmud?
Dr. Brown lost this argument just as he lost every other debate against Jewish rabbi's.
Did u even watch the whole debate 😂
😂😂😂noe judaism is suffereing so many will come to faith....53 lije talking to a muslim. zech12 10. so they will look on judaism the pierced nation. 😂😂😂😂
Tovia doesn't realize that the oral torah is no different than the book of mormon or the qu'ran. Pure apostacy, adding to and detracting from the WRITTEN word. Only the New Testament (New Covenant) is a seamless continuation and fulfillment of the Tanakh. The only true Judaism there is.
It is the oral torah that has perpetrated the "blindness of the Jews," leading them away from God. While the New Testament completely supports the Torah, brings the world to the knowledge of Torah, the so called oral torah contradicts the written Torah and puts itself above God and His written word. Pure evil, and a lie. Pure apostacy.
In reality, the oral torah doesn't exist in the Tanakh, or in history at all until long after the New Testament was completed at the end of the first century. The oral torah was written in response to the New Testament and Messianic Judaism/Christianity. As an objection to the New Testament. Which is why it contradicts the Tanakh so often.
The oral Torah is said to go back to Mt Sinai by most Rabbis, yet like you said you can't find it in the Tanakh or in OT history. The earliest the oral Torah can be traced back to is the second century BC during the Hasmonean era, which is also said to be the Genesis of the Pharisees as a distinct school of thought. And we know from the NT that the oral Torah was only followed by the Pharisees, and was rejected by the Sadducees and Esseans.
"I am God and not a man." - Hosea 11:9
Of course a man cannot become G-d but G-d does manifest in bodily form to His creation specifically Abraham❗️ “And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, Jehovah appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am God Almighty; walk before me, and be thou perfect. And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly. And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying, As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be the father of a multitude of nations. Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for the father of a multitude of nations have I made thee.”
Genesis 17:1-5
@@elina5 “you cannot see my face, for man shall not see me and live.” - Exodus 33:20
@@t.scottmajor1316 genesis 32:30 So Jacob called the name of the place [a]Peniel: “For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.”
@@Doc7-mf2fe "In the womb he took his brother by the heel, and in his manhood he strove with God. He strove with the ANGEL and prevailed." - Hosea 12:3-4
@@t.scottmajor1316 "In the womb he took his brother by the heel, and in his manhood he strove with GOD. He strove with the ANGEL and prevailed." - Hosea 12:3-4
And he blessed Joseph and said, “The GOD before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac walked, the GOD who has been my shepherd all my life long to this day,
the ANGEL who has redeemed me from all evil, bless the boys; and in them let my name be carried on, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.” Genesis 48:15-16
Got it wrong Mr.Brown!your idolatry clouds your understanding of the Tanak
I find that this debate is rather sad, Mike Brown argues from the advantage point of the con man Paul, whereas Tovia argues from the advantage point that the Pauline Gospel is the foundation of the Netzarim Jews. Both can win using those ideas but neither is even close to the truth. Yeshua is not god! Yeshua did not die for your sins!
The only way to receive eternal life is to follow the Torah just as Yeshua mentions numerous times in the Gospels.
The Pauline Gospel was written 75 plus years before the gospel, therefore Paul has a great deal of power in the thoughts added.
Jesus is God! He did die for our sins! Yours and Mine!
@@CheerfulFerryBoat-ug8gr so Yahweh died hmmmm?
@davidwenger9821 Yes. But since you don't believe or understand the mystery of the Holy Trinity it's no use trying to explain it to you lol! The Son died and later arose!
Let me ask you, and since you know all the mysteries of Yah. How does Yeshua say that you receive eternal life? As a added bonus I didn't say your god Paul. Go I will wait. Scriptures please
@davidwenger9821 It's important to let our Jewish brothers and sisters know that we Christians-real Christians believe in the same God they do! Christians like Jews believe in the Hebrew God of Israel! We believe in the Hebrew God of the Bible! We believe in Yahweh! We believe in Hashem! We believe in the God of Abraham, Jacob and Isaac! We believe in the great I AM! Except us Christians take it just a step forward... We believe it's all Jesus Christ! Sadly the Jews don't. They just believe Yahweh is just Yahweh. Hashem is just Hashem. Jews are almost home! They're almost there! We're reaching out to them, extending a hand as if trying to rescue them! Come on! Just one more step and you're Home! But sadly they reject Jesus.
I think youre dwelling too much on the past. Jesus was not the messiah, and The Hebrew Scriptures proves that very clearly. Matter of fact, just the Hebrew Scriptures proves it alone. I think its thst youre still dwelling on this because you were proved wrong, on top of using a another “christian” mediator to help you out. Jesus is idolatry. Its that simple. As simple as Exodus 20:1-3
Only idolatry is following a *PAGAN BABYLONIAN CULT* that believes Man could override GOD
@@pepepena1937only an ignorant person place limits on what God can do and can’t
The story of Joseph takes up 25 chapters of God's first book (Genesis). The story of Joseph reveals God's plan for the Sons of Israel / 12 tribes. Out of envy, they rejected their brother, who their father loved most, who had a vision of all his brothers bowing down to him. They rejected their brother, who Israel/Jacob thought was now dead, but was alive, who came out of the pit, and went to the Gentiles and became their Savior and Ruler. Later, the rejected Savior and Ruler was revealed to his brothers who rejected him, when they confessed their sin of rejecting him. Could it be any more clear?
@@VFXShawn Exactly it was Yosef.(JOseph). Simple, Joseph never died, none of his brothers never worshipped him as' god" it's reverence .. and if Joseph was such a Saviour how come Israel ended in bondage again? Jospeh never "shed' blood' for anyone... On top of GOD hates human sacrifices.
See how ridiculous the idea is. On top of that, the one 'superior of Joseph was Pharoah ( GENTILE).... what implying just fell down... because you're going out of context.... Contexto talks better. Don't use the Cinderella book to interpret the story of Pinocchio. The Tanach interprets itself.
@@MTDMP 1. Joseph was considered dead by his father Israel, upon seeing the bloody robe presented by his deceptive brothers, and as a result, Israel was then known once again as Jacob as long as he thought his son was dead, symbollically showing that Israel is not Israel so long as they believe their Messiah (Jesus) is dead.
2. While it is true his brothers did not worship Joseph as God, that is because Joseph was not God, Joseph was just their brother, however, the dream Joseph had was the sun, the moon, and the stars all bowing down to him (Genesis 37:9). This dream was not about Joseph himself, but about the Messiah, whom all the nations will worship and serve (Daniel 7:13-14).
3. Israel ended up in bondage long after Joseph had died, his story had ended, and a new Pharoah who did not know Joseph had risen to power. Josephs story was only symbolic and prophetic of the Messiah, but his story like all human stories ended at the termination of his life. Joseph was not the final deliverer of Israel, the Messiah is.
4. God hates human sacrifice, yes, but God also told Abraham to offer his son Isaac, "your only son, whom you love", as a picture of what God himself would provide, as Moses and Abraham both acknowledge as prophecy (Genesis 22:13-14).
5. Joseph was 2nd only to Pharaoh, who represents God the Father in this analogy, with strong parallels to Psalm 110:1 "The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool." Joseph was the right hand of the Pharoah, and so pictures God and his Messiah perfectly.
Nice bs, Jesus was a man, a rabbi, a teacher and a guide to the right way of living.
He was not God, nor his son.
😂😂 is that the best u can come up with? Go ahead and debate him. I like to see you cry so badly