Canon Comparison: C100mkII | C200 | C300mkII
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- Опубліковано 10 жов 2024
- Kenny from OWL BOT highlights some of the similarities and differences between the Canon C100mkII, C200, and C300mkII cameras.
TL;DW -- If you're a solo shooter, the C100mkII is probably your best bet. If you're an indie filmmaker, the C200. If you're shooting Docu-style or ENG stuff, the C300mkII (or the Sony FS7) are where you're gonna want to go, as it/they are largely the industry standard and your post house will shower you with kisses.
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#Canon #C200 #C300MKII
Literally just got two used c100 mk2 from eBay $800 and $915. I’m tired of tricked out heavy DSLR/Mirrorless rigs. I just need a robust, all-in-one solution for weddings, funerals, etc. Can’t wait for my next gig!!! 👍👍
My man is busy. Shoots an explanation video then immediately back to hustling gigs. I have a lot to learn from this man.
One of the best nuts and bolts breakdowns of these cameras I've seen
Good style. You had me at "I hate saying my own name".
That was actually very useful and simplifying it all to a "use case" made total sense. It is quite noticable that whether in stills or video camera reviews, people blather on about the spec sheet when in the 'real world' and for most people, they will not use (probably), 80% of the supposed features on any particular camera.
Nice review - I just bought a C100 M2 in early 2019! Still terrific HD - for my needs a great all-sound documentary camera
Great ending!
I do love each of these cameras. Can't wait to see the 6k & 8k versions and how they will upgrade the C100.
first 7 second of this video is a gem. This is why youtube is better than tv. great comparison. stil relevant in 2019!
I have a C100 and it worked out well for me. It shoots really great 1080p. I used it to produce commercials that were on broadcast TV as well as numerous Internet promotions. And it is great to use a true cinema camera with ND built in and other features.
i shoot with c100mk2 daily and rent C300MK2 for big projects. gr8 review.
From Canon's website: "The EOS C700 and EOS C300 Mark II cameras share the same Super 35mm 4.5K CMOS image sensor developed by Canon to achieve a 15-Stop dynamic range."
Seriously the most helpful video I've ever watch EVER! THANK YOU!
Forgot to mentions the 12 bit 2k DCI 444 that comes out of the C300. Those files are a lot of fun to play with in post.
Are they cropped? And are they any better than raw lt on c200?
@@cheesus-t6h I don't believe there's a crop when shooting 12bit. RAW will always have the most information, but for the most part 444 is plenty enough and easier workflow.
This was great and helped me decide on the c200, thank you for shooting it straight!
It would be nice if SSD's became the new standard for cinema cameras.
Thanks for making this video, the use case approach was very informative and confirming.
Finally !! The video I was looking for...
Thanks dude, very helpful. I wonder how the c100 and c100 fair up against a modern dslr.
The C100mkII will crush any DSLR currently available.
@@Owlbot in particular in low light or stage light, they produce a freaking nice broadcast image.
I can say with confidence that my c100mkii strongly outperformed my 5dmkiii, hands down, no contest. I never owned one but used a 5dmkiv a lot and the c100mkii still destroys that image. And I’m currently evaluating the footage against my new EOSr and it still edges it out but the gap is significantly smaller, they actually match really well.
The EOSr actually grades stronger because of its 10bit 4:2:2. My c100mkii only outputs 8bit 4:2:2 external but that’s the biggest difference. Otherwise the images are fairly similar.
@@Owlbot I have sony cameras (A7s A7rII, A7III) and I prefer my C100 markII, I don't know why but there is something in the image that I love, I can't explain...And the ergonomics is just perfect
@@jsleger3404 I feel the same way. Great little camera.
I need your advice : I'm looking for a new camera to film myself with and thought the C100 mkii would be a good option.
Would still recommend it in 2020 ?
yes, i just got my C100 mk2 and it's very good for interview and filming yourself/youtube.
why not, 4k isnt really all that. as a forst camera itll teach you all you need to know, i have a c300 original and i love it, teaches me things everytime
In your opinion . What would be the best c200 autofocus setting for someone wanting to film football with it ?
C100 good in 2023??
Mark ii yes😊
I'm sure someone is going to want clarification or to ask some questions so lett'er rip and I'll be happy to respond!
-Kenny
OWL BOT I’ve been using the C100 Mkii and GH5 at work and I have to say the GH5 beats it for b-roll. You have that 4K, in body stabilisation and high fps. The only thing I find better in the C100 is the ND, sound and ergonomics. When would you say is the best time to use a C100? Thanks for the info!
@@veggetossj2 when you want a video thats softer than your cellphone
@@veggetossj2 yeah for B-Roll (and smaller shoots) the GH5 is a great little camera. The advantage to the C100 is exactly as you said: the XLR jacks, the internal ND, and speed/usability (along with the host of video-specific features that come in handy). In general, you'll be able to achieve a "higher" production value with something like the C100 than the GH5 in the same amount of time, unless you kit out the DSLR/M in which case you're dealing with the ergonomics and usability problem. That being said I can think of plenty of times where all I needed was a solid image and a smaller package would be helpful, like when I'm traveling or what have you, and in those cases a DSLR/M is a god-send and that in-body stabilization definitely comes in to play. Usually I don't want/need 4K so that doesn't tend to weigh too heavily on my judgment, but I will say it's nice to have, and having spent a month with the C200 for my PVC review, I can say I really like having in-body raw.
Great summaries - thanks!
Might be the greatest end of a comparison video ever. "Yo James..."
Thanks. Very helpful. I'm considering buying two C100 MK ii's for two camera wedding shoots. I'm new to the business. Thoughts?
A good rule to live by is to think about what most of your clients require and build your kit around that. Then, if a particular client wants more than your equipment can deliver you can always rent. Often you can even pass those costs along to the clients. The two big drawbacks to the C100 are that they are getting pretty far along in the product cycle and may be due for a refresh and that they only provide 1080, not 4k. With that in mind, if you can get a good deal on a couple of used ones and most of your clients are good with 1080 resolution, I'd say go for it. Another thought might be the 5D Mk IVs. They do 4k and if you can work around them being a little clunky for video, you'd have a great still camera for years to come even after you've replaced them for video use.
At the moment i am stil using the c100 for wedding, great image, but its a bit heavy to carry, handheld shooting is not a option with these canon, also its unpratical to use this on a gimball.
Thank you. Just what I needed.
Super helpful thanks!
I would say anything more than 2000 euros/dollars is not viable for a micro budget indie filmmaker. I make shorts with little to no budget. More than an C100, I dunno. Is C300 much better? How about 1dc? Their colors are amazing… But how about the cinematic look straight from the camera ?
can c300 mark II can be used for films, music videos, ad films ??
It's ok. Nice!!
what rig do you use for the C100? I find it inconvenient to hold after a while and shaky with non-IS lenses. thanks!
I use the Redrock Micro Ultracage, mine has a power distro in it too (which they make) so I can power the cage, a monitor, and a the microRemote FF through it.
All of them has canon CLOG?
yes
I think you mean, the C100 mark1 [& C300 mark1] had the C500 sensor. The C100 mark2 has the same dual-pixel sensor from the C300 mark2.
here's a link: www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/products/details/cameras/cinema-eos/eos-c100
It's not that important, but read if interested. The most important thing to me is how the image looks from the C100, even on a 4k timeline, which is amazing and "filmic," and "cinematic," straight out of camera.
Thanks for these videos!
Excellent
Thanks for the video, thumbs up! Question please. I saw another video saying the C200 sometimes has inconsistent or unreliable auto focus tracking on the face. Is that accurate? Or not? Thanks!
So I've heard that from our customers but I've also heard the opposite. I think your mileage will vary based on a lot of factors so it's hard to really say if a feature like autofocus tracking will be usable for what you're doing. Autofocus tends to bring out some strong opinions. On one side you've got people that will always judge it harshly because it'll never be as good as a trained AC pulling off marks. On the other hand, you've got people who say, "eh better than nothing". I think like anything that takes control out of your hands, you've just got find out what it's good at and what it's not and ALWAYS keep an eye on whether it's working the way you want it to. There's a reason self driving cars make you keep your hands on the wheel after all!
@@StrayAngelFilmsInc Thank you for your thoughts on auto focus, I appreciate your input. The problem with buying these types of Canon cinema cameras from the likes of B&H and Adorama is that those retailers all say no refund is available. So that means one must really make sure whether a feature actually works or not cuz the product cannot be returned for a refund.
@@caseyonlocation8257 If you're in LA, shoot us an email and you can come by and check one of ours out. That said, even if you can get you hands on one to test, you still nee to be super sure of what you're actually testing. If you want it to to keep a subject in focus during an interview, test that. If you think you'll be tracking multiple people doc style, test that. Use the same lenses you'll be shooting with primarily. All the different factors present different challenges for the autofocus to overcome so make sure you're testing the camera in the situations you'll need it to work in.
@@StrayAngelFilmsInc Aah, all excellent points and thank you for your kind offer! I'm in San Francisco, so maybe one day! Thanks!
Seems like the c200 steps on the throat of the c100. So c300 if your shooting with a studio. c200 if you’re on your own shit?
Are the XLR inputs with or without phantom power?
With
says that if u focus on number u forget the image, yet doesn’t show the image... ok, I better search for reviews that actually show the image
does the c300 mark ii shoot raw internal just like the c200
Unfortunately, no raw internally for the C300 Mk II. Just 422 10 Bit in 4k and 444 12 Bit in 2k.
www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/products/details/cameras/cinema-eos/eos-c300-mark-ii
@@StrayAngelFilmsInc okay thank you would you recommend the c200
@@jlmcclendon5660 If you are going to have the time to tweak/color the raw footage, yes. You'll get a better final 4k image. If you want a faster workflow or if you're just delivering footage to clients, maybe the C300 Mk II.
Did you say base iso on the cameras is 800?
Yes, except for the C100mkII which is 850.
@@Owlbot That's good to know! I assumed that 800 was pretty much the standard on all of Canon's cinema cameras
Hello Kenny
Hello
Not a single second of footage? Everything here can easily be googled
Awesome video! I absolutly love it. Keep on like this and have a glance at mine if you feel like it. =)
Who is this clown lol
Nothing like hearing someone talk about a FILM/VIDEO SUBJECT for 7 minutes without any footage.....how disappointing.
Wow just talking......its like I could have just read a manual.
Aka buy a real camera like a sony, mini ursa, eva 1, ls300, or any of the other real cameras rather than these sad excuses
What a joke
the problem with the ursa etc. they lack color.. And they don't shine indoors. But for the rest resolution wise they tend to have more detail these day except for the c200.