FN Reflex Review!!! Accuracy issues!
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- Taking a look at the FN Reflex, a fairly new pistol release from FN. Another entry into the micro 9mm marketplace with what I believe is accuracy issues and or quality control issues.
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Mine is very accurate. Had a few failure to feeds with the first couple boxes of ammo, but disassembled and cleaned and lubricated well and have not had that since. Break-in periods Are REAL folks, don’t judge a fire arm too soon. I find this pistol very accurate, very tight on the rails and just needed a short well lubricated break-in period. Good job FN!
I'm glad it worked out for you, but not every single one that rolls off the assembly line is perfect. I've owned close to 100 pistols and this was by far one of the worst shooting pistols I have owned. Thanks for checking out the video.... glad you have one you like.
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I just watched your video. I also have a FN Reflex, and the sights mine had were definatly bad. The front sight is #8 height and the rear is too low at #6. I replaced the rear with a Sig pattern, Trijicon DI night sight set. Fixed the problem completely. The rear sight the factory installed was 0.261" which is #6 height. The rear sight I replaced it with was 0.306" or #8 height. My trigger drastically improved around 600 rounds, and now at 2400 rounds its fantastic. The FN factory QC process is to fire 5 rounds of 124gr American Eagle Ball ammo inside a 3" circle at 50 feet. My pistol after changing the sights, will do much better with just about any ammo through it now. I went round and round with FN customer service, and finally got them to walk me through the process. Mine will hold 3" out to about 30 yards with 124gr loads, and about 4" with 115gr Win silver tips. The velocity however becomes an issue beyond about 50 feet, after which I don't believe there is enough velocity to fully expand a defensive JHP load. Hope that helps you some, its fantastic once you take the time to get the sights right. I go into a bit of detail on Reddit if you are really board, and I also went into detail on my video. I hope you stick with it and try swapping the sights before you let it go.
Well... I believe FN should fess up and just tell people they fudged this up. Then offer to fix it. Their email from customer service stated to me that the accuracy requirement was 21' with 5 rounds being within a 4" circle. So 5 shots at 7 yards within a 4" circle.... which in my opinion is not accurate. They also told me that the Reflex required a "combat hold"...... The FN is already left my collection and I will not be buying another FN product anytime soon. Thanks for the information and thanks for taking the time to check it out and stop by.
What you said about the front sight was on point and probably exactly why it's shooting low. I agree. In all truth though, the majority of handguns that have side to side knock in front sights have the exact same "gap" between the frame and the bottom of the sight. My XD mod 2 and SIG p365 have the exact same gap. Though my Glocks (MANY) and my CZ's (NOT ENOUGH LOL) Either screw in til flush iwth the frame or get knocked in from the direct front and center of the frame. Sorry you have an issue with your gun sir. Thank You for the video and all the work.
I just got one today and my first 10 rounds I hit a 2 inch bullseye at 25 ft 7 out of the 10 rounds. So I’m happy to report the one I got seems to be dead on. I got the black one without the optics cut. With a discount from the local gun shop it was 477.00
Shot 115 and 124 gr with no failures at all. Definitely got a good one here. I was holding dead center on the dot .
glad to hear it worked out for you. Thanks for checking out the video.
My gunshop showed me the FN Reflex and I havw to admit I was impressed with everything. The one thing I didnt do was shoot it, the second was purchase it right there and then, and now I'm glad I didn't make that purchase. For now, I'm happy with what i have. They shoot and hit on target every time. This is the 5th video I've watched and all have the same results, including responses from FN. Sad situation. They know there is a problem by now. Figure it out and fix it, or take it off the market.
I bought one around 3-4 weeks ago. I’ve had one feeding failure in 400-500 rounds. It is a tac driver, but the front site must be held on the target / point of impact. Best shooting compact / Micro pistol I’ve ever shot. The only thing that worry’s me is the light trigger pull on a gun with no external safeties. This video was made 6 months ago. It could be some of the first shipments had problems. I don’t know.
I blacked out the rear sight dots. Worked for me. Kept lining up dots. Made me shoot low.
I've had 3 Reflexes (Long story) and all of them had problems. I bought it to replace my G43. I love the FN grip, I love the sights, and the trigger is pretty good from the factory. All of them had failure to feed problems. One would have a soft strike about every 3rd round. We tried 5 different types of ammo and 9 different magazines. We put about 200 rounds through each gun. All of them would shoot low left no matter who was shooting it. I put Holosun 507k red dots on 2 of them and I had the elevation up maxed out and it still wouldn't bring the POI up to POA. I put a laser bore sight cartridge in them and it would not line up with the iron sights. It showed low left on all of them. The same laser bore sight lined up perfectly in all of my other handguns. I sold 2 of them and the 3rd one has been at FN since September for repair, in hopes that I can at least have one good one. That was 3 months ago and it's still not fixed.
FN sent mine back in less than 2 weeks.... something like 10days to 2 weeks.... very short turn around. No email... no letter, no nothing. Just a target with a nice group on it. Guy in an email said it was shot from 21' (7yds) with 124grn american eagle. I told him it still shot low. he said I just needed to get used to the trigger. I ended up selling the firearm to someone that wanted it more than I did. One of the worst performing handguns I have purchased to date. If you want a small handgun check out the Masada Slim. Great guns.... 100% reliable and just tack drivers... optic ready.... 13 plus 1. and can be had for less than 450. Thanks for checking out the channel. Something here for everyone.
3 months ??? That’s unacceptable 😢
Mine has feeding issues also, however I've found the it runs federal syntech 115gr ammo flawlessly, but it sucks that I'm limited to one specific type of ammo
yes that does stink. sorry to hear about that. if you ever have the chance to hold a IWI Masada Slim check it out. great gun.
New sub because I respect your honesty. I heard and seen many ours saying it shoots low and left. Shouldn’t have to pay $400+ on a red dot to get it to shoot right. I chose the SW shield plus over the reflex just because of this issue. Anyways thanks !
Shot mine today 65 yards 6” plate consistently accurate with holosun red dot
well, with a red dot vs. irons.... of course it's going to shoot fine with a dot..... the dot is zeroed to the weapon..... if the weapon comes from the factory with jacked up sights then a red dot would fix it. The pistol I reviewed was not optic ready..... but the one I reviewed shot great groups.... just consistently shot low.... and I'm not the first person to experience this. I appreciate you checking it out and stopping by.
Could you show us the target pages that FN sent you? I would also love to see your FN Reflex placed on a vice to see how it shoots and show us the sight alignment once it's set on the vice.
there has actually been a channel that has done the vice test..... same results. I no longer own this pistol....... thanks for checking it out.
I've been carrying my Masada Slim for 1 year now..I have 2,125 rounds thru it and it's never jammed. That consists or 18 different brands and styles of ammo. The trigger is better than any other pistol it's size and less recoil as well. It's also very accurate.
10-4 I will double that. I liked mine so much I bought a 2nd. One with a dot... one without. They are great. Thanks for stopping by. I appreciate it.
You have big hands tho, do you shoot low with the 15 round mag as well ?
What’s crazy is I absolutely agree that the factory sights are off, so I went with a holosun red dot to fix the problem with shooting low left. I had to max out the red dot up and right to try and get it on a plate at 20 yds. Not only are the sights junk I think something internally is not right.. possibly the recoil spring is too light? I’m about to put this one on the trading block 😡
I recently purchased one and honestly it’s shot perfect for me. Dead on bullseye. I shot it combat hold and 11 round without pinky extension
I have read varying reports..... this one does not shoot well for me at all. I appreciate you stopping by and checking out the channel.
Please somewhere post pictures of your front and rear sight individually and with the sights lined up the way you shoot to hit your target at POI/POA. We need someone to compare the guns between one that claims to shoot right on target vs one that does not. SOMEBODY PLEASE lmfao
Groups look nice! Maybe will get better after break in period! Seems most new pistols are a center hold/cover hold would get it on target? Have a great day and thanks for your review! 👍
Oh, a break in period. Yeah.... that aint happening. Any quality handgun should shoot well after 500 rounds or so. This is not quality. I was cleaning it today and a trigger bar support spring just simply fell out. This thing is hot garbage.
Having same exact issue with shooting low. Switched between pistols to verify I wasn't shit aim 😂
I did the exact same thing.... went into the safe and pulled out 4 other pistols made sure I was not losing my mind that day.....
@@AverageGIJoeOutdoors I've been pondering the idea of filling the front sight down to compensate and drift the rear sight to the right.
nah... why should you have to do that to a new firearm..... send it back to FN.... if it does not do what it is suppose to do then find something that will.... way too many options out there for FN to be putting out crap products.
I've had one for about three weeks and finally got to take it to the range yesterday. I put 200 rounds through it. Had the failure to feed problem twice. Also, I did not have any problem hitting the target. I could hit the bullseye or close to no problem at 15-30 yards.
Glad it's working out well for you so far. I have heard about the failure to feed issues, but some say they have a break in period. Mine did not find a home with me long enough to find out. Thanks for checking out the video.
@@AverageGIJoeOutdoors : Shot exactly 237 rds today and I experienced about 100 FTFs. And it shoots low and to the left. Not a happy camper!
I’ve had no problems with accuracy or feeding and the reflex had a better trigger than my 365
Can the iron sights be altered/fixed to no longer have the low left shooting issue?
The sights on most pistols can be "drifted" or adjusted. The issue with the reflex is they are the wrong size on the front sight. Thanks for checking out the video.
Went to the range the last two days with my new Reflex. I have to say I'm not impressed. Like most people are saying, im hitting low and to the left. I wish I could show you pictures of my targets with other guns at the same distance so you would know its not me. Im going to try to get better with it, but right now i feel like the Reflex will soon be on the trading block.
yeah, some people have had success with them.... I have heard more bad reports than good. Thanks for checking out the video, something here for everyone.
Agree 100% with your conclusion. Mine is just as bad, PLUS it will not feed hollow points. I am well beyond the 250 rd. break in period FN claimes is required (Sig, Taurus and Springfield don't need) but my Reflex is still just as unreliable as the day I bought it 😢
Sorry to hear that..... I am getting reports all over the place with the Reflex. The one I had functioned reliably but it's accuracy was just crap. FN's customer service was not that great either. Sorry to hear you got a bad one also. I have been telling people about the IWI Masada Slim for a similar size weapon that is great. I have 2. accuracy is great, and functions like a champ. Thanks for checking out the video and stopping by the channel. Something here for everyone.
I've seen your videos and only see that it has a problem with one type of ammo, you haven't shown your targets for us to see the problem with where it's shooting? I've had two Glocks that had problems both Gen 4's one a 19 other other was a 26 , the 19 would spit brass in your face every other round, they had to replace the extractor to fix that, but the 26 the extractor would hang up when fired and you had to hit the extractor on the slide because it was stuck out to the side and wouldn't eject the rounds. I sent it back to Glock and they had to replace the whole slide. My point here is some have problems with handgun brands where as others don't! Me I have no problems with the Reflex. Send it back to FN is my suggestion here!
It's been back to FN brother. Still did the same thing. I showed the targets in this video I do believe. Everyone can get a lemon for sure... but I am not the only person on this platform to have issues with the pistol. I am glad yours is working out for you. Have a great Holliday season.
@@AverageGIJoeOutdoors I was referring to frandunigan's videos he has on his site, but it's all good bro! Godspeed and have a great Christmas and a Happy New Year you guy's!✌
I am now a subscriber
that's awesome.... I appreciate it. There should be something here for everyone.
Try shooting with left hand so I can see if it's the right trigger finger. That got it shooting low left see if it will straighten up (shooting left handed).... I'm a lefty! I'm tryna see sum b4 buying... if it's really the sights/ gun i don't want it
Plenty of reports of the same problems from multiple people. Lots of other options out there and cheaper options...... thanks for stopping by.
The front sight on mine is nothing like yours. I shoot a dot, and it shoots amazing groups for a micro 9. My dot is not accurate to my irons, meaning the sights are off. When my sights are lined up, the dot is to the left.
well that makes sense compared to what I am experiencing and what I am hearing online. Thanks for checking out the video.
Maybe it has the best trigger for a micro hammer fired gun 🤷🏿♂️
doubtful..... the Canik MC9 trigger is better as is the Masada Slim. I have reviewed both of those as well.... both have better triggers.... both break cleaner and both shoot much better.
@@AverageGIJoeOutdoors those guns are striker fired. I think FN is referring to having the best trigger for a micro "hammer fired" pistol
I'm aware.... thanks for the information......
Rear sight is to low.. its a n# 6 .. buy a sig rear no.8 it will work
This thing has long since found a new owner. thanks for checking out the video, but I wont be buying anymore FN products for a little while.
Ive watched so many videos of the Reflex shooting low left. How does Hickock not shoot low left? ua-cam.com/video/LR2hvaO7SHM/v-deo.htmlsi=gUI9bM4eg6f9V5Qr
Hickok uses Kentucky windage when he shoots the fn.
It shoots low left.
Grip Angle... Same 18deg angle as the 1911 type handguns... Best angle for the human hand 👍😎🇺🇸
Issue with shooting low... Same as many others,the real issue is that many are having is that you are torqueing down your wrist as you pull the trigger with this Small handgun... Knowing this issue and correcting it will get better with practice 👍😎🇺🇸
After watching entire video I came back...
I watched you shooting this handgun and looked at the three different group shots....
You Are limp-wristing... Also You are Not having the same grip with each shot...
After each shot I notice that your trigger finger completely moves away from the trigger to then mounts back onto the trigger,bad habit...
Try this,as you fire a shot... Slowly release tention to allow the trigger to reset but keeping your finger in contact barely pass the reset... Doing so will help in keeping the same grip with repeated shots... Practice - Practice - Practice... Good Luck 👍😎🇺🇸
Appreciate the input...... but many other people have been having the exact same issues with this pistol. Dunno what video you watched but I'm quite familiar with how trigger reset works.....theres a little bit of a shadow being thrown inside the trigger guard from the angle of the sun.... I went back and watched it after your comment........The trigger reset on the Reflex sucks.... it's long. I've been at this for a little while.... close to 30 years. Have you owned a Reflex?
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Good Luck my friend 👍😎🇺🇸
I have owned many guns over the years but never this Reflex... I am concidering in getting one which will be my first 9mm handgun,I plan to use it as a fun range gun 👍.
All my handguns that I ever owned were 40cal...10mm... 45acp striker & hammer handguns and even .357 mag & 44mag revolvers... I do own a FN 502 as a fun range gun as well ... I spent over 12yrs in the military with most of that in Group,I have operated and well familiar with many types of weapons and enjoyed most of them.
The issue I mentioned in the Reflex was when I watched someone who first used it and he was continously shooting low with it... He shoots all his handguns from 150ft with plenty of easy accuracy but that reflex he was dumbfounded... After some research he realised that he was torqueing his hand downward with this small gun and weird trigger... The next day and shooting 1000rds in two hours (common for him) he had corrected his mistake and was back at his usual self in hitting the targets with the Reflex... Again best of luck to you and may all your adventures be fun 👍😎🇺🇸
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Joe, throw that fn gun away and try the Walter pdp compact.
I have owned one.... for sure a great firearm. I do however have a ppq sub compact still. Yes I would take it over the fn for sure. Thanks for stopping by the channel.
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Lol oh wow, big gap
Why do you large guys with big hands complain about small guns knowing they won't fit your big hands
Watching you fire the pistol is up and down within a inch watching video looking at pistol match it against the barn door you’re shooting and you can see your height difference, thanks for taking the time out for video
I'm sure you can shoot with the best of them man... thanks for watching.
My opinion in the gun and I have one people good gun don't judge it yourself off these videos all im gone say
Plenty of people have judged for themselves and say the same thing..,, thanks for checking out the video and stopping by the channel. Something here for everyone.
Thanks,I am very disappointed on HK repose to you,that alone is all I have to about HK.
This particular firearm was made by FN, but yes I was not happy to say the least. Thank you for checking out the video.
The Reflex is made by FN not HK
FN is known for 💩 triggers
Yeah, not a fan. I was cleaning it to "give it a new home"..... and the trigger bar retention spring just fell out..... it just fell out. Took me forever to figure out what it was.... where it went and to get it back to factory specs..... was a PITA. I won't buy any more FN stuff. Thanks for checking out the channel. Something here for everyone. Come back and see me. Thanks again.