You do know goats don't flip each other, right? I've been keeping goats 10 years and study them all the time. Real goat dominance is based on pressure/release and controlling space. When I was training my 250lb Boer to respect my space, he could display dominance and rear up as much as he wanted but if he couldn't get into my space, he couldn't push me around, and he knew it! After a few training session, he learned if he wanted attention as he was a massive snuggle bug, he had to wait his turn and stand patiently, not being pushy. After that, all I would need is my trusty ski pole (NEVER for hitting) but for direction. I could give him the best horn scratches with my ski pole or rub his back with it. Absolutely zero fear of a stick as a weapon but as soon as I placed a little pressure to his chest and snapped my fingers, he understood I was asking him to leave my space and he would politely walk away.
Love your handling techniques. I’m in a difficult position with an 8mo girl, single (more goats coming soon) and pushing her dominance. She’s good with me and my husband (though I have flipped her twice) but his family has completely different handling methods. I can’t leave her tied up at the main farm as if she challenges someone there they will hit her, which I feel is so counter productive. She loves pets, brushes, and snuggles.
She'll likely do better with more goats around, and yes, consistency and fairness are important in handling or you may continue to have struggles as she is confused.
An animal who is nervous about you thinks of you as a predator. Every predator does three things in an attack: it looks at its prey, moves towards it, and then tries to touch it. It might work better if you sat at the entrance to the crate with your back to them and offered food instead of physical contact. When they see that you're not exhibiting predatory behaviors, most animals will calm down, get curious, and initiate contact on their own. *edit: I don't mean to be critical at all. What you're doing is working, and what I'm suggesting often takes longer. I have found that this improves trust, though, which makes other things easier down the road. It's been worth the up-front cost for me.
Goats do that mostly to play out dominance hierarchies in the herd, less to defend themselves from predators. Maybe the alfa in defence of the whole herd will horn an attacker, but it is highly unlikely, that a terrified kid will horn you. Later, when they try to pull you in a dominance struggle, that can be dangerous, if not handled right.
Beautiful. Thanks for filming, Andy
I needed this, especially the video about how to flip a goat
You do know goats don't flip each other, right? I've been keeping goats 10 years and study them all the time. Real goat dominance is based on pressure/release and controlling space. When I was training my 250lb Boer to respect my space, he could display dominance and rear up as much as he wanted but if he couldn't get into my space, he couldn't push me around, and he knew it! After a few training session, he learned if he wanted attention as he was a massive snuggle bug, he had to wait his turn and stand patiently, not being pushy. After that, all I would need is my trusty ski pole (NEVER for hitting) but for direction. I could give him the best horn scratches with my ski pole or rub his back with it. Absolutely zero fear of a stick as a weapon but as soon as I placed a little pressure to his chest and snapped my fingers, he understood I was asking him to leave my space and he would politely walk away.
@diaryofagoat-lass1023 haha that's awesome, ski stick, "go that way" lol. You give your boar a name?
@@ShaneFlett His name was Monty and he was a king and a gentlemen.
@@diaryofagoat-lass1023 Monty.. nice. Monty the gentlemen
@@ShaneFlett Monty the King...
Love your handling techniques. I’m in a difficult position with an 8mo girl, single (more goats coming soon) and pushing her dominance. She’s good with me and my husband (though I have flipped her twice) but his family has completely different handling methods. I can’t leave her tied up at the main farm as if she challenges someone there they will hit her, which I feel is so counter productive. She loves pets, brushes, and snuggles.
She'll likely do better with more goats around, and yes, consistency and fairness are important in handling or you may continue to have struggles as she is confused.
An animal who is nervous about you thinks of you as a predator. Every predator does three things in an attack: it looks at its prey, moves towards it, and then tries to touch it. It might work better if you sat at the entrance to the crate with your back to them and offered food instead of physical contact. When they see that you're not exhibiting predatory behaviors, most animals will calm down, get curious, and initiate contact on their own.
*edit: I don't mean to be critical at all. What you're doing is working, and what I'm suggesting often takes longer. I have found that this improves trust, though, which makes other things easier down the road. It's been worth the up-front cost for me.
They're cute thanks for the info! Are these lamancha goats or crosses? Curious because of the nubby ears.
They are lamanchas, thanks for watching!
Where did you get that goat house???
Where did you get the goat house?
Why did you reupload this one?
Where do you find those shelters?
These are actually calf shelters, we acquired from a retired cattle operation
Rottweiler goats😂
Nice goats ...where are their ears.?
Do they ever try to horn you
Goats do that mostly to play out dominance hierarchies in the herd, less to defend themselves from predators. Maybe the alfa in defence of the whole herd will horn an attacker, but it is highly unlikely, that a terrified kid will horn you. Later, when they try to pull you in a dominance struggle, that can be dangerous, if not handled right.