"And of course theres some of those dead end areas that just have some sort of spooky crap in them and then it'll kill you or crash the game" is downright the funniest line in this video.
I just love how mundane it is for him. He has seen it all, like a janitor who has been with the company since day one while every other employee has been rotated out of the company already.... hmm.
I'm proud of you! You've gone from just covering some game you found, to sharing it with friends, to being a co-dev of the game. Great work, that's inspirational.
8:07 Oh, it wasn't intentional! As much as I like seeing 445 up there, it's not too tough to fix. In the current hotfix version, changing the ROM byte at 0x19904B from 03 to 02, will fix it. Not sure where that would be in C programming land, unfortunately, but in memory it's over at RAM 807F0C08, which is 'ADDIU S0, S2, 0x0003', the 0x0003 part needs to be 0x0002 instead. It's fine as-is, of course! Making it so only bowser gives you the red stars that don't raise the counter was a really smart decision. Really, the fact that 450 stars have their ID set properly is just astounding. I don't think people will fully understand how difficult that is... you did something amazing here.
Would you be able to help "unlock" some of the other ID slots? Right now, the last two stars in Ex-12 and all of Ex-13 don't add to the star total. (These are the star IDs that use the "high" 54-66 values, if that means anything to you). There's a new hotfix being worked on that changed the Bowser reds to add to the total, and we might add in a few more stars if these slots are usable.
@@BikdipOnABus Yeah, hopefully youtube doesn't eat my reply, it's been doing that lately! I'll post a fresh comment if it does. The code appears to avoid those spots intentionally, probably back when they were green stars. We can sabotage it, though. We can restore the last two stars of the extended 12 row here... ROM 0x199047, change 3F to FF (RAM 807F0C04, ADDIU A2, R0, 0x003F) (the 0x003F becomes 0x00FF) And we can change that byte from before to add the extended 13 row as well ROM 0x19904B, change 03 to 01 (RAM 807F0C08, ADDIU S0, S2, 0x0003)(the 0x003 becomes 0x0001) I noticed all the bytes got shifted around from 0.9 to 1.0, so it might shift around again, just keep an eye out for any weirdness. This brings the max to 463!
Man, there’s nothing like a happy ending. Props to you, Chris and all the other folks who worked on this game, as someone outside the SM64 hack scene this is still one of the most fascinating and hype games I’ve played in quite awhile!
Hey Bikdip. You are probably the first person I ever subscribed to on YT along with some other OGs like Shadow of Miles. Almost two decades ago at this point which is insane. So glad you're doing well.
I remember being super young and loving your playthrough of kaizo mario 64, its awesome that you now have a part you played in one of the most interesting hacks haha
How do I play this on the original intended hardware of the thrown out gameboy advance hidden behind Flynn's Arcade from the movie Tron near the vicinity of an area adjacent to a location?
@@spyr0guyMake sure you have the first copy of super Mario at your, and beat bowser seventy times, then jump the entire game facing backwards until you meet bowser, he will say a random code, that unlocks the castle in the game.
Everytime I see your icon pop up in my feed, Im reminded of your old Zelda Classic quests c: I should give B3313 a try for myself sometime! I love watching videos of it
2 questions jish: 1) is this game decomp-based or mostly asm hacks? 2) certainly you've had sm64-based dreams, right? why is this romhack so perfectly reminiscent of those dreams? it's super erie and great.
Just an update on the star tracker, it's been officially released for parallel launcher so now you should be able to properly keep track of your stars! :D
honestly i wonder if you would come back to add those stars that you couldnt cause star limit. Cause if you would, there is probably some way of extending the limit,especially cause 450 doesnt sound like a usual limit like for char 255 etc
@@spyr0guy ty for the info, but is it exscessive? this rom hack is all about personalized ai that keeps generating new levels endlessly, and an sm64 dream where you explore the game endlessly
I hope it's not too much to ask; is there any way to tell whether I have the hotfix? I downloaded it off of the Mario Palace channel on the 4th. If I need to patch in the hotfix, how should I do it? The same way I patched it before?
@@RollyPollyPal Thanks! Everything worked out just fine. I was wondering though, do you know how to get the star tracker (provided in the description) to work? When I run B3313, the star tracker only displays the vanilla star layout.
@@HereticYoshi hi, when using the star display, right click Layout -> Load From and then choose the jsml file that's linked in the desc. hope that helps!
Just my personal opinion but I feel like the final release disappointingly tampers a bit too much with B3313's original spirit. What makes B3313 worthwhile in my eyes is its (relative) subtlety; don't get me wrong, I don't mind any of the added levels, nor the added creepy parts which just fairly keep up the proportion between creepiness and normality, but I feel like Chris and maybe Bikdip and whoever else ruined the living-breathing atmosphere of B3313 a bit too much by, to mention a few examples, reusing the Polygonal Chaos track (it originally showing up only once, in Polygonal Chaos, is such a great visual and auditory tone changer, it's like a transcendent mix of the normal and the creepy)(or am I mistaken and the Polygonal Chaos area was removed entirely? Not sure why it would be), or adding new semi-ominous music and ironically taking away the ominous silence of the last couple areas before Star Road, and finally perhaps my biggest gripe, changing Star Road as radically as they did. Were they just not allowed to use the original Star Road map anymore? The music of the original Star Road felt like such a perfect, complementary reward for your work throughout the whole plexus, and by being complementary I don't think it even ENDED or neutralized the ominous tone of everything before it, but rather added a new deeper dimension to it. You could wonder, as you started to rest among the clouds and get ready for its new final levels, if things have truly gotten safer or if there's still a presence looming somewhere waiting for you. The original Star Road added really unique layers to the whole romhack, whereas the new one makes it more monotone in my eyes, taking away from the overall subtlety. Anyway it's not the hugest deal cuz theoretically you can still go between different versions (I think?), at least between the final release and the Unabandoned version which keeps the original star road whilst trying to fix star ID's like the final release does too. Not trying to be a hater to the final release or any of its devs, I'm happy they've got it out and that people are excited by it, and it helps to make the plexus feel even more expansive. I just wanted to share this personal view of mine on it.
I think star road got changed because it was pretty visually inconsistent with the rest of the hack. I agree the new version is kind of a downgrade but I do think it fits a lot better with the overall aesthetic the hack is aiming for Also, bikdip is merely responsible for fixing star id's and the placement of a few stars, I don't think he's responsible for any major area changes
@@RollyPollyPal like I said, I don’t think it’s inconsistent, because it varies things up without actually eliminating the overall tone, it creates the mere question “are we finally safe?” without actually answering it. I think your perspective is Chris’, but I disagree with it because what you see as consistency I personally see as monotony. I didn’t know if bikdip gave some suggestions on some levels or something but yeah I know he focused on star ID’s
@@SocksFCGameArchives I don’t know about “definitive” but I just prefer both version 0.9/“abandoned 1.0” and the unabandoned project. I don’t really think there is a definitive version because the official final release still has so many of its own pros, I just personally think some of its changes are too radical.
@@ryancurnow5806 it's only cos I think that it's gone off the rails slightly by shifting focus onto horror rather than mystery and its bizarre weirdness. I heard that 0.7 was the last version like that but I've only ever played Unabandoned
Very cool documentation of the new version, but I've got a question, for some reason windows (being windows defender smartscreen) thinks the new version of star manager might be threat to my computer for some reason, I'm taking it that the actual program is safe but just to be sure let me know.
I'm going from 1.0 to the hotfix and noting that my save works on the new rom file until I try to load any other areas (painting, start -> lobby) then crashes. Seems like a softlock. Could it be the emulator I'm using? I've tried renaming my rom to match the original patched file, etc. On Project64 which has been great until now. Tia!
Question, I was reading the wiki and....what's this about a sex room and getting there you spin around the tode statue for like 5 hours all for a cyan star? Is that still a thing lmao? Also 9:22 isn't that the area behind the faceless tode in that big hallway maze with a jumpscare? It had many MANY bowser paintings going downward if I remember. Last, you were talking about the Warzone part of Bomb battlefield (snow area) Did the star out of bounds also get fixed for this in the next area with a timer and king bomb is there?
Question 1: You left out the part where first you have to use the Ice Key to move the truck and find Mew underneath it, and then use the Overture of Sages to enter the Light Temple and get the Triforce. Question 2: Yeah pretty much. I think this map is new but it's basically the same as that place you're describing. Question 3: That star was weird. It was never meant to be obtainable in the first place, but when I was editing the star IDs, I made sure to set that one to be a fake ID (one that doesn't give you a real star) in case someone managed to reach it again. (Any area with a countdown timer like that has one of these star sprites that generates a star when you touch it, since that's the object that creates the timer in the first place)
Trying out the official 1.0 patch and I can't seem to be able to use the z button at any moment despite catching a few red stars, is there any reason behind it?
Does this update have a proper ending? And is Star Road fully accessible as post-game? (Haven't played it myself yet, just been haunting with wiki waiting for updates.)
So. When I go to the website and click the download link, Parallel launcher opens a download and appears to download the file, but then when the launcher opens properly, I can't find anything to do with that patch. I don't know where its downloading to, and my SM64 Rom isn't patched. I can't find anything about this online. EDIT: Never mind. The only issue is that I hadn't logged into Romhacking and integrated my account with the launcher. Got it working now!
The Day 1 release has MIPS in three locations (Uncanny Courtyard, Crimson Hallway, Wing Cap by the Rainbow Highway). The Day 2 version only kept the one in Uncanny Courtyard (but accidentally left the one in the Act 1 alternate version of Crimson Hallway, which was then removed in a later update prior to 1.0.1)
Will we get a Sequel to B3313 in the future? If it's necessary to add new ideas for a rom hack. Despite whether B3313 1.0 is final, why not 1.1, or 1.2 until 2.0?
Chris is pretty burnt out on the hack as is, if anything I'd recommend you try other experiences that are similar like Yume Nikki or LSD Dream Emulator
Maybe in an alternate timeline where the Thing That Happened didn’t happen, but we don’t live in that timeline so this is it, Luigi. It was well worth the wait, too.
i doubt youll read this but how the heck did you recreate all the rooms/maps for this game?! like you wouldnt had to make a whole map in blender for like just 1 room and that's just the castle youve made probably over 50 normal levels too
I didn't make any areas. My level of involvement with this game was mostly documentation, bug reporting, and some object tweaking (moving stuff around, changing values). The actual level architecture was never anything I had any control over.
@@Laenthorthis mod being impossible to run on real hardware just makes it even spookier. it makes it feel like you're playing something that just shouldn't be possible
@@Laenthor ok, well, sorry for finding a silver lining about it and not being a pessimist. i need to learn to complain more and be more miserable and ungrateful, like you
question since this is the final release of B3313 (probably you wont do this) but can you do videos on every course castle hub like an 100% guide? you probably wont do this cuz its tiring as hell but if you do end up doing it, don´t upload the videos like every two days or such cuz it will be unhealthy for your health thx P.S: also you should put in the videos a way to get to the levels cuz the whole castle is one hell of a confusing maze
I SWEAR I WATCHED THAT YEAR OLD VIDEO 2 DAYS AGO also im gonna try this now and hope to god this works on dedalus 64 on my 3ds because 1.0 unabandoned (i think) works (without saves so i gotta use savestates) BUT
Unabandoned is built off of 0.9 so is missing a lot of the new areas featured here. It's a slightly more polished experience but I think on the whole 1.0 has more content
Unabandoned has less content, has more issues, and is unauthorized and disowned by the original B3313 creator. The story behind its existence is a rabbit hole and a half, but I’ll spare you the details and just say you shouldn’t support it.
@@spyr0guyYou are emphasizing your position a lot honestly and I see a lot of enmity with the old team but some things that you criticize about are actually a bit of a lie because the reason why I say the differences of this version is because I played Unabandoned and it was fixed and had more content seem unauthorized but still expanded the game compared to Abandoned. That's why I'm asking if there are several differences in this one.
@@elweegee3575 Ask curly and wasteofblood if unabandoned has permission to use their assets. My enmity with the other team is a combination of my dislike of misinformation and having been present for the server hijacking (not raid, hijacking. They used a security vulnerability in discord to ban the admins and take over for a couple hours before it was fixed.) To be told to my face that something I witnessed with my own eyes didn’t happen is unforgivable, which is what they’ve been doing.
hey im retro arch / parallel launcher runs really slowly for some reason. i tried to use the 1.0 rom on Project64, and had the same issue. u know how to fix?
@@martiny6620 well, the gameplay should be as fast as your seeing in these videos. But you'll notice that jumps are much higher/longer than in vanilla. I agree that the gameplay is a little slower. Ig you may be able to play at 110% emulation speed.
@@dogyX3 for context, i was playing on an earlier version of 1.0 before and it felt faster. this video looks the same speed as my game rn, it just is noticably slower than the original rom for some reasn
As far as I'm aware, B3313 was never intended to run on Mupen, only Project 64 V3.0 So it's highly unlikely that they tested for that and tried to fix it. I've however found that the game does mostly run on Parallel Launcher, Glide64 on Linux
@@dogyX3there's a version of mupen out there specifically optimized for this game. you can find it buried somewhere in the comments of the download page linked on the video
He's just always in his own world. He really quiet, for real, unless he know you. Funny as hell, though, but if he know you type shit, y'know what I'm sayin'? Like...
Some additional notes from a prior developer since 2022, being heavily involved with planning the star discoloration, the 'personalization AI' and all that stuff. 'Troll Engine' is the name of the piles of decomp code that made developing and adding new features much less tedious than doing them in MIPS assembly. B3313 1.0 uses a heavily outdated version of this Troll Engine. Had Chris not caused me to quit twice by completely disregarding my education and treating my loving, therapeutic girlfriend like utter shit, we could have crafted a better overall B3313 experience. In particular, Unabandoned's version of Troll Engine fixes the following issues: - The 8 red stars in Ext15 counting is a mistake resulting from trying to count the yellow stars past the red IDs. This has been fixed in UA's Troll Engine when we found that red stars were counting as yellow with fixed star IDs. Red and green stars not counting as - look at the HUD - *yellow* stars was an intentional design decision. As for how to check those star counts if they don't count as yellow stars - for red stars, consult the final door that requires 13 red stars, and do some very simple math from what it says. Green stars were going to be in the HUD one way or another. 1.0's green stars are actually reskinned yellow stars; (the unused) `get_green_star_count()` function will always return 0 for legit 1.0 save files. - Random crashes in areas. The majority of the crashes are always in the `geo_process_node_and_siblings()` function as a result of the parameter being a non-null, malformed pointer somehow formed from garbage data. Still not exactly sure what causes that to happen in the first place, but I added a pointer validity check which erased the crash once and for all - interestingly, this hasn't resulted in invisible objects or anything of the sort. Angry Sun also causes a crash from such a malformed pointer, this time in `geo_set_animation_globals()`. This one hasn't been fixed publicly yet - Unabandoned A3 is currently in development. There was also some stuff with Koopa the Quick (who has been removed in 1.0 presumably due to the issue that we fixed in our version), and Chain Chomp who can cause softlocks in 1.0. As for running the game on Mupen/RetroArch, I'm hosting versions/cores that can correctly read data past 64 MB, with the instructions to building your own if you don't trust my binaries.
I found this guy as a complete mess. There will inevitably be the ones to point out that I am a ban evasion account and such a fake story. Absolutely disgusting. One could even say, 'shame' 😉 Really glad he's doing well now. He actually just had no life. That family was beyond pathetic and is a prime example why psychology needs to be taught at schools.
@@LemonLover110Shame things had to happen the way they did, but game’s out now and it’s really good, so happy ending I guess. Too bad this Bennet Danny fellow can’t let it go.
I still dont get this hack. It feels like a giant maze of randomness, often including either tiny levels that feel pointless or huge areas that are mostly empty. I like the size of the hack, but... i just dont get it
The hack has a very similar spirit to games like Yume Nikki and LSD Dream Emulator. These games are games full of bizarre places that, at first, don't seem to make a lot of sense, and can vary in size. The bizarreness of the slightly different and yet familiar versions of the SM64 levels and exploring these many differences is often what pulls people in. As the comment above said, it also can make the player uncomfortable by having them explore these big liminal spaces. The game also takes notes from the very classic "Every copy of Mario 64 is personalized", and the size and quantity of the places has a direct link to the story the ROM hack has. tldr: the game's confusing layout, quantity of rooms and their contents is due to the things that inspired the hack, and also the story the hack tells.
It’s basically just a randomizer that pulls from a pool of Random Cartridge Tilt Events whenever you go through an area transition and goes off more often the more red stars you have. Quite simple and probably very easy to make.
@@BikdipOnABus oh I didn’t see that. I just thought it’d be cool if you drip fed the info from it. The coolest part of the community was back in v0.7 when everyone was hunting to find out everything together. I’m not bashing on your vids or effort tho. I love your channel for the b3313 content
Why would anyone do that? Unabandoned was never 1.0, nor was it really anything more than a slightly neutered 0.9 with a few duct-tape fixes. This is, and always was going to be 1.0.
Have you gotten B3313 to work using Parallel Launcher relatively easily? I'll give it a shot if you can confirm it, it sounds promising. If you can spare any details or point me in the right direction on how to compile vanilla with the hack properly for Parallel Launcher that would also be ideal. These days I use OpenEmu, but I can be convinced otherwise.
@@SmeiskAudio yes i use it and it runs perfectly with GLide. I almost have 50 stars 😊. Parallel Launcher makes it very easy to play ROM hacks. All you have to do is give it the base ROM and it does the rest
I use a specific version of Project64 named Project 64N and has no ads. I thought B3313 needed a specific modified emulator because of its size or mapping.
19:23 a door being inside a bathroom stall is probably the best explanation on how this hack feels
I can;t believe they made Mario Pissing real
Unironically yeah.
"And of course theres some of those dead end areas that just have some sort of spooky crap in them and then it'll kill you or crash the game" is downright the funniest line in this video.
It’s so sad Mario died of crashma
@@spyr0guy When will dad come home?
@@anuncreativename1478 Crashma game
I just love how mundane it is for him. He has seen it all, like a janitor who has been with the company since day one while every other employee has been rotated out of the company already.... hmm.
I'm proud of you! You've gone from just covering some game you found, to sharing it with friends, to being a co-dev of the game. Great work, that's inspirational.
Thank you for all the help, man
its amazing to finally have an official 1.0 release
Thanks for making this game
Thank you for all the bangers, this rom hack and your music!
B3313 are one of the best hacks ever made.
I would like the SM64 Hacking community to be as big as the SMW one.
Thank YOU for completing this game! You guys really created an actual masterpiece of media
8:07 Oh, it wasn't intentional! As much as I like seeing 445 up there, it's not too tough to fix.
In the current hotfix version, changing the ROM byte at 0x19904B from 03 to 02, will fix it.
Not sure where that would be in C programming land, unfortunately, but in memory it's over at RAM 807F0C08, which is 'ADDIU S0, S2, 0x0003', the 0x0003 part needs to be 0x0002 instead.
It's fine as-is, of course! Making it so only bowser gives you the red stars that don't raise the counter was a really smart decision.
Really, the fact that 450 stars have their ID set properly is just astounding. I don't think people will fully understand how difficult that is... you did something amazing here.
I revisited this video just to check for something I missed and I found this comment. You're an absolute legend!
Would you be able to help "unlock" some of the other ID slots? Right now, the last two stars in Ex-12 and all of Ex-13 don't add to the star total. (These are the star IDs that use the "high" 54-66 values, if that means anything to you). There's a new hotfix being worked on that changed the Bowser reds to add to the total, and we might add in a few more stars if these slots are usable.
@@BikdipOnABus Yeah, hopefully youtube doesn't eat my reply, it's been doing that lately! I'll post a fresh comment if it does.
The code appears to avoid those spots intentionally, probably back when they were green stars. We can sabotage it, though.
We can restore the last two stars of the extended 12 row here...
ROM 0x199047, change 3F to FF
(RAM 807F0C04, ADDIU A2, R0, 0x003F) (the 0x003F becomes 0x00FF)
And we can change that byte from before to add the extended 13 row as well
ROM 0x19904B, change 03 to 01
(RAM 807F0C08, ADDIU S0, S2, 0x0003)(the 0x003 becomes 0x0001)
I noticed all the bytes got shifted around from 0.9 to 1.0, so it might shift around again, just keep an eye out for any weirdness.
This brings the max to 463!
more star :D
Man, there’s nothing like a happy ending. Props to you, Chris and all the other folks who worked on this game, as someone outside the SM64 hack scene this is still one of the most fascinating and hype games I’ve played in quite awhile!
Just started playing 0.7 a few weeks ago, excited to check this version out!
This might be too much to ask but a full 100% playthrough from you would be awesome
theres somewhere else
Thank you for documenting this game as much as you have!
Hey Bikdip. You are probably the first person I ever subscribed to on YT along with some other OGs like Shadow of Miles. Almost two decades ago at this point which is insane. So glad you're doing well.
Been fun watching your playthroughs of this and seeing the game evolve. Sweet that it is finally finished!
I remember being super young and loving your playthrough of kaizo mario 64, its awesome that you now have a part you played in one of the most interesting hacks haha
Really proud of you Josh. I had to go over to the charity stream video and shout you out for the work you've put into this.
How do I play this on the original intended hardware of the thrown out gameboy advance hidden behind Flynn's Arcade from the movie Tron near the vicinity of an area adjacent to a location?
Guys he's speaking facts...
You have to find it in a train station in a spain station in Miyamoto's behind
You have to plug it into an outlet inside Osama bin laden’s hidden Pizza Hut dumpster next to a creepy old man’s yardsale
@@spyr0guyin outer space, don't forget
@@spyr0guyMake sure you have the first copy of super Mario at your, and beat bowser seventy times, then jump the entire game facing backwards until you meet bowser, he will say a random code, that unlocks the castle in the game.
I'm still waiting for C4424 to release as a demo.
What about D5535?
@@moronic618 E6646
What even happened to A2202?
Cuild 4424?
WTF was that ending
mario 64 personalized
supamario
he found the b3313
The b33throom
I can't find it uploaded anywhere else
It's really cool to see you helping out with a project as popular as this.
very informative video, as always! good job on the IDs also
Everytime I see your icon pop up in my feed, Im reminded of your old Zelda Classic quests c:
I should give B3313 a try for myself sometime! I love watching videos of it
the inevitability of b3313
>"Please don't ask me how to play on anything other than a PC-"
Wii U Bros... we LOST.........
Now I can’t play beeie on my N-Gage :(
*laughs in steam deck*
Has anyone actually tried to get this latest update working on Wii U? Version 0.9 didn’t work, but 0.7 did.
Edit: 1.0 indeed does not work
Tested with Ultimate Injector under Super Mario 64 USA base. I'm able to get to the title screen! Once you select a file, it hangs on a black screen.
Never expected the true release to happen! POG!!!
One day I am going to count exactly how many different versions of “inside the castle walls” I can encounter back-to-back.
I can't believe it's finally here, I'm so excited
good job steering this disaster bus
b3313 gaming
Chris went all out on the music for some levels I love it
2 questions jish:
1) is this game decomp-based or mostly asm hacks?
2) certainly you've had sm64-based dreams, right? why is this romhack so perfectly reminiscent of those dreams? it's super erie and great.
The game uses loads of decomp code in Rom Manager
Vanilla Bathroom in the outro goes hard
Just an update on the star tracker, it's been officially released for parallel launcher so now you should be able to properly keep track of your stars! :D
if 1.0 has game breaking bugs, it is generally good practice to increment the version. like to 1.01.
honestly i wonder if you would come back to add those stars that you couldnt cause star limit. Cause if you would, there is probably some way of extending the limit,especially cause 450 doesnt sound like a usual limit like for char 255 etc
Theoretically one can fit up to 812 but that’s a bit excessive.
@@spyr0guy ty for the info, but is it exscessive? this rom hack is all about personalized ai that keeps generating new levels endlessly, and an sm64 dream where you explore the game endlessly
@@kewinzabojca7226 It would take forever to place 812 stars, much less ID them. Would admittedly be pretty neat, though. Power stars as potato chips.
@@spyr0guy true, tho hope someone writes ai in the future that will generate real personalized content :D
I hope it's not too much to ask; is there any way to tell whether I have the hotfix? I downloaded it off of the Mario Palace channel on the 4th. If I need to patch in the hotfix, how should I do it? The same way I patched it before?
Same way you patched it before, name it the same as your old b3313 rom and overwrite it. It should carry your save data over.
@@RollyPollyPal Thanks! Everything worked out just fine. I was wondering though, do you know how to get the star tracker (provided in the description) to work? When I run B3313, the star tracker only displays the vanilla star layout.
@@HereticYoshi hi, when using the star display, right click Layout -> Load From and then choose the jsml file that's linked in the desc. hope that helps!
Just my personal opinion but I feel like the final release disappointingly tampers a bit too much with B3313's original spirit. What makes B3313 worthwhile in my eyes is its (relative) subtlety; don't get me wrong, I don't mind any of the added levels, nor the added creepy parts which just fairly keep up the proportion between creepiness and normality, but I feel like Chris and maybe Bikdip and whoever else ruined the living-breathing atmosphere of B3313 a bit too much by, to mention a few examples, reusing the Polygonal Chaos track (it originally showing up only once, in Polygonal Chaos, is such a great visual and auditory tone changer, it's like a transcendent mix of the normal and the creepy)(or am I mistaken and the Polygonal Chaos area was removed entirely? Not sure why it would be), or adding new semi-ominous music and ironically taking away the ominous silence of the last couple areas before Star Road, and finally perhaps my biggest gripe, changing Star Road as radically as they did. Were they just not allowed to use the original Star Road map anymore? The music of the original Star Road felt like such a perfect, complementary reward for your work throughout the whole plexus, and by being complementary I don't think it even ENDED or neutralized the ominous tone of everything before it, but rather added a new deeper dimension to it. You could wonder, as you started to rest among the clouds and get ready for its new final levels, if things have truly gotten safer or if there's still a presence looming somewhere waiting for you. The original Star Road added really unique layers to the whole romhack, whereas the new one makes it more monotone in my eyes, taking away from the overall subtlety.
Anyway it's not the hugest deal cuz theoretically you can still go between different versions (I think?), at least between the final release and the Unabandoned version which keeps the original star road whilst trying to fix star ID's like the final release does too. Not trying to be a hater to the final release or any of its devs, I'm happy they've got it out and that people are excited by it, and it helps to make the plexus feel even more expansive. I just wanted to share this personal view of mine on it.
I think star road got changed because it was pretty visually inconsistent with the rest of the hack. I agree the new version is kind of a downgrade but I do think it fits a lot better with the overall aesthetic the hack is aiming for
Also, bikdip is merely responsible for fixing star id's and the placement of a few stars, I don't think he's responsible for any major area changes
@@RollyPollyPal like I said, I don’t think it’s inconsistent, because it varies things up without actually eliminating the overall tone, it creates the mere question “are we finally safe?” without actually answering it. I think your perspective is Chris’, but I disagree with it because what you see as consistency I personally see as monotony.
I didn’t know if bikdip gave some suggestions on some levels or something but yeah I know he focused on star ID’s
What would you say is the definitive version of this?
@@SocksFCGameArchives I don’t know about “definitive” but I just prefer both version 0.9/“abandoned 1.0” and the unabandoned project. I don’t really think there is a definitive version because the official final release still has so many of its own pros, I just personally think some of its changes are too radical.
@@ryancurnow5806 it's only cos I think that it's gone off the rails slightly by shifting focus onto horror rather than mystery and its bizarre weirdness. I heard that 0.7 was the last version like that but I've only ever played Unabandoned
Very cool documentation of the new version, but I've got a question, for some reason windows (being windows defender smartscreen) thinks the new version of star manager might be threat to my computer for some reason, I'm taking it that the actual program is safe but just to be sure let me know.
It does that for everything, it's fine
corporate OS when something niche shows up:
Wow, I had no idea you could climb the iron fence inside Bowser's sub. I always used wall jumps to get up there.
Say, was the trailer link updated to lead to this version with the hotfix?
I'm going from 1.0 to the hotfix and noting that my save works on the new rom file until I try to load any other areas (painting, start -> lobby) then crashes. Seems like a softlock. Could it be the emulator I'm using? I've tried renaming my rom to match the original patched file, etc. On Project64 which has been great until now. Tia!
and how are you supposed to open the star tracker
So what's the difference between the official and the unofficial?
We need the star layout for Parallel Launcher.
Question, I was reading the wiki and....what's this about a sex room and getting there you spin around the tode statue for like 5 hours all for a cyan star? Is that still a thing lmao?
Also 9:22 isn't that the area behind the faceless tode in that big hallway maze with a jumpscare? It had many MANY bowser paintings going downward if I remember.
Last, you were talking about the Warzone part of Bomb battlefield (snow area) Did the star out of bounds also get fixed for this in the next area with a timer and king bomb is there?
Question 1: You left out the part where first you have to use the Ice Key to move the truck and find Mew underneath it, and then use the Overture of Sages to enter the Light Temple and get the Triforce.
Question 2: Yeah pretty much. I think this map is new but it's basically the same as that place you're describing.
Question 3: That star was weird. It was never meant to be obtainable in the first place, but when I was editing the star IDs, I made sure to set that one to be a fake ID (one that doesn't give you a real star) in case someone managed to reach it again. (Any area with a countdown timer like that has one of these star sprites that generates a star when you touch it, since that's the object that creates the timer in the first place)
I wonder if the random crash in Goomboss Battle got fixed in the 1.0 hotfix
The game crashes every time I go to the center of the map
Trying out the official 1.0 patch and I can't seem to be able to use the z button at any moment despite catching a few red stars, is there any reason behind it?
Does this update have a proper ending? And is Star Road fully accessible as post-game? (Haven't played it myself yet, just been haunting with wiki waiting for updates.)
Yes and yes
So. When I go to the website and click the download link, Parallel launcher opens a download and appears to download the file, but then when the launcher opens properly, I can't find anything to do with that patch. I don't know where its downloading to, and my SM64 Rom isn't patched. I can't find anything about this online.
EDIT: Never mind. The only issue is that I hadn't logged into Romhacking and integrated my account with the launcher. Got it working now!
Source for that animation at the end?
Wall Castle is no longer available in this update?
Because Wall Castle isn't an official area. This is the official version, not the Unabandoned one.
Thanks Linkara
I have a question
did you remove mips completely on the hotfix or just the stars
cuz im not sure which version i got
The Day 1 release has MIPS in three locations (Uncanny Courtyard, Crimson Hallway, Wing Cap by the Rainbow Highway). The Day 2 version only kept the one in Uncanny Courtyard (but accidentally left the one in the Act 1 alternate version of Crimson Hallway, which was then removed in a later update prior to 1.0.1)
@@BikdipOnABus thank you!
Can you convert save data from the first release to this latest one??
12:36 where are the two power stars that you need 120 stars to get located?
Will we get a Sequel to B3313 in the future? If it's necessary to add new ideas for a rom hack. Despite whether B3313 1.0 is final, why not 1.1, or 1.2 until 2.0?
Chris is pretty burnt out on the hack as is, if anything I'd recommend you try other experiences that are similar like Yume Nikki or LSD Dream Emulator
nope
The version number is how 'dumped' the cartridge is according to the lore. There cannot be anything past 1.0
Maybe in an alternate timeline where the Thing That Happened didn’t happen, but we don’t live in that timeline so this is it, Luigi. It was well worth the wait, too.
The dev team said he planned to make a 2.0 versión.
And the unabandoned team will make a another similar project.
how does the new "dusk" weather work? I've seen it mentioned but it hasn't worked for me so far
Dusk? Sounds interesting, also never heard of that but I wouldn't mind myself looking into it.
pretty sure that it's only one area dependent on RNG warps (sunset castle grounds) and not an actual rtc setting
@@LemonLover110 it's just a random skybox change for castle grounds
it's joever
@@thegreatestroman1651 ok thx!
@@ecstaticwooper368 Oh
Why can’t there just be a level select option! 😭
what emulator are you using? just a specific project 64 version? the link in your faq video is outdated.
Yeah, Project64 3.0.1.
Would be good if you added the romhack super mario 89 that looks like a dreamcore version of sm64 as well
that would be dope
i doubt youll read this but how the heck did you recreate all the rooms/maps for this game?! like you wouldnt had to make a whole map in blender for like just 1 room and that's just the castle youve made probably over 50 normal levels too
I didn't make any areas. My level of involvement with this game was mostly documentation, bug reporting, and some object tweaking (moving stuff around, changing values). The actual level architecture was never anything I had any control over.
@@BikdipOnABus do you know the process on how they made the maps I'm super curious
@@ProbablyCrispyBacon Not really.
so theres not gonna be any more updates?
Pizza tower b3313 edition is my favorite games
hey, werent you featured on retsupurue? congrats on the game dude
LETTSSS GOOOOOOO!!!
there's something so funny about watching this brain-melting hack being played with such completely bored and irreverent commentary on top
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Does this work on a real n64 with an everdrive? I can't really find info on that.
I'd like to know too, but probably not
@@MusicJunkie37 I tested it and it just says the file is too large, so unless it's further compressed to 64mb instead of 93mb it's not going to work.
@@Laenthorthis mod being impossible to run on real hardware just makes it even spookier. it makes it feel like you're playing something that just shouldn't be possible
@@RedHatGuyYT That is an awful reasoning. It should be perfectly playable on hardware, the only contraint is the size of the game.
@@Laenthor ok, well, sorry for finding a silver lining about it and not being a pessimist. i need to learn to complain more and be more miserable and ungrateful, like you
question since this is the final release of B3313 (probably you wont do this) but can you do videos on every course castle hub like an 100% guide? you probably wont do this cuz its tiring as hell but if you do end up doing it, don´t upload the videos like every two days or such cuz it will be unhealthy for your health thx
P.S: also you should put in the videos a way to get to the levels cuz the whole castle is one hell of a confusing maze
does savestating and spamming the yellow switch still cause horrific fuckery?
I don't think so. Pretty sure when you hit it and reload, it doesn't remember anything from before the reload.
I SWEAR I WATCHED THAT YEAR OLD VIDEO 2 DAYS AGO
also im gonna try this now and hope to god this works on dedalus 64 on my 3ds because 1.0 unabandoned (i think) works (without saves so i gotta use savestates) BUT
What is the diferrence with unabandoned?
Unabandoned is built off of 0.9 so is missing a lot of the new areas featured here. It's a slightly more polished experience but I think on the whole 1.0 has more content
@@RollyPollyPalCurious because Unabandoned have 21 stars more of this versión.
Possible have more differences this versión.
Unabandoned has less content, has more issues, and is unauthorized and disowned by the original B3313 creator. The story behind its existence is a rabbit hole and a half, but I’ll spare you the details and just say you shouldn’t support it.
@@spyr0guyYou are emphasizing your position a lot honestly and I see a lot of enmity with the old team but some things that you criticize about are actually a bit of a lie because the reason why I say the differences of this version is because I played Unabandoned and it was fixed and had more content seem unauthorized but still expanded the game compared to Abandoned.
That's why I'm asking if there are several differences in this one.
@@elweegee3575 Ask curly and wasteofblood if unabandoned has permission to use their assets. My enmity with the other team is a combination of my dislike of misinformation and having been present for the server hijacking (not raid, hijacking. They used a security vulnerability in discord to ban the admins and take over for a couple hours before it was fixed.) To be told to my face that something I witnessed with my own eyes didn’t happen is unforgivable, which is what they’ve been doing.
hey im retro arch / parallel launcher runs really slowly for some reason. i tried to use the 1.0 rom on Project64, and had the same issue. u know how to fix?
Have you tried switching the renderer plugin to Glide64?
@@dogyX3 i think it was an intentional thing with the rom. i dont even notice the slowness anymore
@@martiny6620 well, the gameplay should be as fast as your seeing in these videos.
But you'll notice that jumps are much higher/longer than in vanilla.
I agree that the gameplay is a little slower. Ig you may be able to play at 110% emulation speed.
@@dogyX3 for context, i was playing on an earlier version of 1.0 before and it felt faster. this video looks the same speed as my game rn, it just is noticably slower than the original rom for some reasn
I have idea how about make in future multiplayer version of this mod ?
Does anyone know if the crashing at file select bug on mupen android is fixed?
As far as I'm aware, B3313 was never intended to run on Mupen, only Project 64 V3.0
So it's highly unlikely that they tested for that and tried to fix it. I've however found that the game does mostly run on Parallel Launcher, Glide64 on Linux
@@dogyX3 you can get a fixed version of mupen core that allows 64mb+ roms to run from benedani's website
@@dogyX3there's a version of mupen out there specifically optimized for this game. you can find it buried somewhere in the comments of the download page linked on the video
W
Whats the room on the thumbnail called?
Tubular Lobby
@@BikdipOnABus thank you
Thats ending
Hey guys, Bikdiponabus here..
Is this 1.0 unabandoned or is this updated after unabandoned.
two different things. UA was unofficial (not by chris), this one is official (by chris)
How green stars work?
Can someone pls tell me more about the last couple seconds of the video
He's just always in his own world. He really quiet, for real, unless he know you. Funny as hell, though, but if he know you type shit, y'know what I'm sayin'? Like...
Bruh, im playing b3313 on M64 AE lol💀💀☠️💀☠️
When b3313 1.0 for ex coop
Some additional notes from a prior developer since 2022, being heavily involved with planning the star discoloration, the 'personalization AI' and all that stuff. 'Troll Engine' is the name of the piles of decomp code that made developing and adding new features much less tedious than doing them in MIPS assembly.
B3313 1.0 uses a heavily outdated version of this Troll Engine. Had Chris not caused me to quit twice by completely disregarding my education and treating my loving, therapeutic girlfriend like utter shit, we could have crafted a better overall B3313 experience. In particular, Unabandoned's version of Troll Engine fixes the following issues:
- The 8 red stars in Ext15 counting is a mistake resulting from trying to count the yellow stars past the red IDs. This has been fixed in UA's Troll Engine when we found that red stars were counting as yellow with fixed star IDs. Red and green stars not counting as - look at the HUD - *yellow* stars was an intentional design decision. As for how to check those star counts if they don't count as yellow stars - for red stars, consult the final door that requires 13 red stars, and do some very simple math from what it says. Green stars were going to be in the HUD one way or another. 1.0's green stars are actually reskinned yellow stars; (the unused) `get_green_star_count()` function will always return 0 for legit 1.0 save files.
- Random crashes in areas. The majority of the crashes are always in the `geo_process_node_and_siblings()` function as a result of the parameter being a non-null, malformed pointer somehow formed from garbage data. Still not exactly sure what causes that to happen in the first place, but I added a pointer validity check which erased the crash once and for all - interestingly, this hasn't resulted in invisible objects or anything of the sort. Angry Sun also causes a crash from such a malformed pointer, this time in `geo_set_animation_globals()`. This one hasn't been fixed publicly yet - Unabandoned A3 is currently in development.
There was also some stuff with Koopa the Quick (who has been removed in 1.0 presumably due to the issue that we fixed in our version), and Chain Chomp who can cause softlocks in 1.0.
As for running the game on Mupen/RetroArch, I'm hosting versions/cores that can correctly read data past 64 MB, with the instructions to building your own if you don't trust my binaries.
shut up
I found this guy as a complete mess. There will inevitably be the ones to point out that I am a ban evasion account and such a fake story. Absolutely disgusting. One could even say, 'shame' 😉
Really glad he's doing well now. He actually just had no life. That family was beyond pathetic and is a prime example why psychology needs to be taught at schools.
Ain’t readin’ allat 😂
Interesting insight on the development ngl. Never knew green stars were going to be in the HUD.
@@LemonLover110Shame things had to happen the way they did, but game’s out now and it’s really good, so happy ending I guess. Too bad this Bennet Danny fellow can’t let it go.
I still dont get this hack. It feels like a giant maze of randomness, often including either tiny levels that feel pointless or huge areas that are mostly empty.
I like the size of the hack, but... i just dont get it
The point is
Liminal Space: Super Mario 64 1995 Edition
The hack has a very similar spirit to games like Yume Nikki and LSD Dream Emulator. These games are games full of bizarre places that, at first, don't seem to make a lot of sense, and can vary in size. The bizarreness of the slightly different and yet familiar versions of the SM64 levels and exploring these many differences is often what pulls people in. As the comment above said, it also can make the player uncomfortable by having them explore these big liminal spaces. The game also takes notes from the very classic "Every copy of Mario 64 is personalized", and the size and quantity of the places has a direct link to the story the ROM hack has.
tldr: the game's confusing layout, quantity of rooms and their contents is due to the things that inspired the hack, and also the story the hack tells.
never heard of lsd dream emulator, just google it, 40 reviews on steam. and they arent positive, but it looks cool.@@Michael-im1tr
dude ur still making vids i watched u when i was 10 lmao... 27 now
i died in Uncanny courtyard and the game crashed lol please fix it
Just don't die there
ik but just to make the game PERFECT but no one cares@@Calmtimer
Could you talk about the decomp TrollEngine by Benedani?
Why? It's not related to the subject of the video at all
Only becauseis not related to the video dosen't mean he can't ask @@RollyPollyPal
It’s basically just a randomizer that pulls from a pool of Random Cartridge Tilt Events whenever you go through an area transition and goes off more often the more red stars you have. Quite simple and probably very easy to make.
@@spyr0guyb3313 has a similar but simpler rng implementation for a few warps in places i forget where the result differs
@@spyr0guy explain why it consists of almost 1000 files if it's nothing but a quite simple randomizer then, buttercup
Tested on wii, and can confirm it does not work. I’m not sure about n64 because I don’t have an everdrive
Dang. Thanks for sharing though. Now I don’t have to test it myself
Aways wanted to play the hack but I have a weak heart and get scared easily so this will be a skip for me sadly.
I wish I could Play this game but I don't have a gateway laptop
WTF DID I SEE A A EXLODING SINGN
hi linkara
You did good work, though I'm not sure how you managed to put up with chris
Release the cheat sheet after you finish uploading the playthrough on your channel lol
It's literally in the description of part 1.
@@BikdipOnABus oh I didn’t see that. I just thought it’d be cool if you drip fed the info from it. The coolest part of the community was back in v0.7 when everyone was hunting to find out everything together. I’m not bashing on your vids or effort tho. I love your channel for the b3313 content
can everyone call this version B3313 1.1?
Why would anyone do that? Unabandoned was never 1.0, nor was it really anything more than a slightly neutered 0.9 with a few duct-tape fixes. This is, and always was going to be 1.0.
This is 1.0, there is no other 1.0, any rumors to the contrary are greatly exaggerated.
Please stop using Project 64, Parallel Launcher is infinitely better
Have you gotten B3313 to work using Parallel Launcher relatively easily? I'll give it a shot if you can confirm it, it sounds promising. If you can spare any details or point me in the right direction on how to compile vanilla with the hack properly for Parallel Launcher that would also be ideal.
These days I use OpenEmu, but I can be convinced otherwise.
Plus it doesn’t hit me with an unskippable 30-second ad every time I start it up. Project64 thinks it’s UA-cam 💀
@@SmeiskAudio yes i use it and it runs perfectly with GLide. I almost have 50 stars 😊. Parallel Launcher makes it very easy to play ROM hacks. All you have to do is give it the base ROM and it does the rest
I use a specific version of Project64 named Project 64N and has no ads.
I thought B3313 needed a specific modified emulator because of its size or mapping.
he put the rom in the song uploader. I told him it wouldn't hurt ;) ua-cam.com/video/5hZUHp1EMus/v-deo.html
this romhack is a trojan.
Yeah I dunno so much about that one.