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Michael Lombardi knows his stuff
Jimmy Garappolo proves Brady is a product of the Pats.
so the Patriots have to lose on purpose? arizona blew that game and miami came back
Jonathanflores Flores Miami came back cause a rookie with little no no experience in the system came in. Jimmy was lighting it up against both teams. Cardinals are no pushovers like Miami. It is obvious. Brady is not starting, the Pats manage to win more than 10 games. Rodgers goes down, the Packers only win a max of 1 game, and maybe tie a game against bum teams. See 2010 and 2013 for examples. Refute that please. Curious
It proves nothing of the sort actually. You seem to discount the fact that Jimmy G (And Matt Cassel for that matter) spent all of their time prior to stepping on the field watching and learning from Tom Brady (The Greatest QB Of All Time). Maybe if Rodger's backups could actually learn anything from him the packers wouldn't be such absolute garbage without him. Refute that please. Curious.
+Griefer king Why is that Aaron Rodgers fault? What are the backups @ Patriots truly learning from Tom? That's more of a coaching standpoint you're coming from. Mike Lombardi answered or 'refuted' your question perfectly.
Griefer king So why hasn't Matt Cassel used "watching Brady" after he left the Pats. When he left the Pats, he didn't play nearly as good, averaging less than 3,000 yards. He is not even good enough to be a reliable backup. They were great cause they learned the system, not caused they watched Brady. Watching someone doesn't do shit. Why don't you tell me that Brady watched Bledsoe? Cause that is not how it works. Cute try though trying to refute
I think the problem is, in the social media era, we rate...underrate...overrate players far to quickly. Let's wait until their careers are over.
True
Right!!
I disagree with that.
How can someone be overated that led his team to a superbowl win LOL
Because some people believe A-Rod is the greatest QB of all time. While he's certainly a phenomenal QB, he's not even close to being the GOAT.
Skip Bayless literally hates all QB's not named Tom Brady.
And Tony Romo
Skip has a man crush on Brady
AjaxForever I thought his man crush was Tebow
Well Tom Brady IS the G.O.A.T. as QB..
Wrong. He also loves Tebow, Manziel, Romo, and Prescott.
Here we go again, I guess Dak Prescott should be in the Hall of Fame by now according to Skip
Seeing this now with LaFleur changing the offense, and Lombardi's statements were spot on. We need to stop treating football players like basketball players. A QB is the most important position, but it is also literally the most dependent position in all of sports. They aren't pitchers, they rely on everyone else from their coaches to their offense, to their defense. QBs get too much credit and too much blame
3 years later you were wrong
@@davidjackson9680 actually I am more right than I realized seeing the many qbs drafted and the difference it makes where they ended up
@@unholydiver1095 in reference to Aaron you were wrong young qbs yes
@@davidjackson9680 was talking about qbs in general. Rodgers included. Same with older generation qbs like Marino, Montana, Bradshaw, Brady. Manning, etc
@@unholydiver1095 I see your point but Aaron imo gets put in too many goat conversations by the people and analysts when he only has stats and bad playoff losses
Skip Bayless lives vicariously through Tom Brady
The guy knows Football.
Bi-curiously
Michael Lombardi should replace Mike McCarthy
skip: "youre just mad that you picked the packers" lmfao
his face after was price less.
his face after was price less.
his face was priceless
so i guess the vikings get no credit huh?
NOPE HELL NO!!! JK they played excellent
I know right
Not really. This is more about the Packers playing like 💩 not the Vikings. They scored 17 points. They didn't go out and blow them out. Damarious Randall made Stefon Diggs look like Jerry Rice and Sam Bradford look like Joe Montana. The offensive line can't block a soul, Eddie Lacy did little to nothing. This was about the Packers not executing.
exactly. the score doesn't reflect how Vikings dominated.. packers offense literally only scored due to the amount of dumb penalties on vikes defense
lol
The First real serious injury of Tom's career. A guy who hadn't took an in game snap since High School led the Patriots to 11 wins Threw for over 3,000 yards and 20 plus TD's. Tom Brady: Greatest System QB ever!!!!!!!
You seem to discount the fact that Matt Cassel spent all of his time prior to stepping on the field watching and learning from Tom Brady (The Greatest QB Of All Time). Notice what happened when he stopped being able to? Chiefs were happy to have him :^).
With a team that finished the regular season at 16-0 and a QB with a 50:8 TD/INT Ratio the year prior. Yeah man, stellar logic.
what system? charlie weiss , josh mcdaniels , and bill O'brien not to mention the 14 pats were playing musical chairs with the O' Line. so no matter what system it is this man will find a way to win. Arod is no Brady
Brady is no Joe Montana!!!!
Brady 4 rings to Roger's 1 doesn't even come close
Brady is overrated, a back up QB has the same production. Brady hasn't carried his team in a while.
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hahahaha what a joke hahaha
bro...he just won the super bowl 2 years ago
really wow
What crack are you smoking?
The Vikings defense played good against him but I still don't think he's overrated, he makes amazing plays every Sunday, this is coming from a Vikings fan.
i love skip he always tells it how it is. atleast in his mind. lol.
Brady 🐐 > Rodgers
For now and always asshole, Rodgers is 10 years into his career and having these troubles now. Brady is contending for super bowls at late 30's. Rodgers won't ever be the goat.
Guy hasn't showed up in the playoffs since his super bowl run. Not the goat
Lombardi just made Skip feel so stupid. He clearly knows way more about the game of football than Skip. Skip just makes super dramatic statements about players to get viewership and publicity. And Lombardi is right on the nose about this. Tom Brady is a legend, and probably the best QB of all time. Aaron Rodgers is also amazing. The biggest reason Brady has had so much more success than Rodgers is that the Patriots system is sooo much better than the Packers. The Packers play-calling is horrible and relies way too heavily on Rodgers making big plays. The Patriots doesn't rely nearly as much on Brady, and they instead focus on attacking specific teams. But Brady still makes it much better because he is an amazing QB.
finally someone smart, props.
If Aaron Rodgers is overrated, then isn't Tom Brady even more overrated? How is it that Jimmy G has managed to look like the best QB in the league? How is that the only time Matt Cassel proved to be an effective QB in the NFL, he was playing for the Patriots? Same thing for Bledsoe. How is it that Jimmy G is having all this success without Gronkowski? If Rodgers is overrated, then Brady is nothing more than a system QB.
It's hard to imagine any other QB apart from Rodgers throwing for 45 TD's and 6 interceptions in a season.
4 ring, only stat that matters
Rings*
Brady had an incredible (i forgot the exact number against the seahwaks in the 4th in his last superbowl. Before that he came back from down 14 twice against the ravens in the afc chip game. Scrambling and all (not fast but enough). Bottom line is this New England does run a great system but this was created with Brady. Belichick didnt do this on the browns or with Bledsoe, but with Brady and then after. Y'all caught with Rodgers because of his physical attributes and they are good but if they don't come through in the biggest moments then it means nothing. Brady is greatest in the toughest moments and earns his way to the toughest moments year after year. Different receivers, with and with out deep threats. with and without running games. Craziest of all he still building his legacy. Brady the GOAT
You do realize that Jimmy G and Matt Cassel were learning directly from Tom Brady every single day before they stepped foot on the field, right? I can make the same argument about Tom Brady's greatness. Look at what happened when Matt Cassel stopped having direct contact and practice time watching and talking with Tom Brady every day. Your argument is dead. Take the L and move on.
Please explain to me how Rodgers is better? Obviously Bill Belichick builds a good team, and Garoppolo was drafted in the 2nd round. But no way in hell could Jimmy G or Cassell do what Brady does in the playoffs every year. Truth is, you don't want to look at facts. Cassell was surrounded by a team that went 18-1 the previous year, and there was a 7 game drop off. Garoppolo was a potential heir to Brady, and had months to prepare, and has learned the playbook for 3 years. Belichick is a defensive minded coach, who knows how to coach and prepare his players. But he has no "system" which makes players look like HOF QB's. The patriots run the most complex offense in the league, with the QBs and receivers being able to dissect coverage on the go and adjust their routes accordingly. If Brady was a system qb, then he would be told who to throw to pre-snap and rack up yards like college QBs. Rodgers on the other hand runs one of the most simple offenses in the league and still holds the ball. Granted, his coaches aren't as creative as most elite coaches, but no way in hell is Rodgers better than Brady. Stop being delusional and take the L.
Aaron hasn't been the best QB since 2014 and that year i thought it was tony romo.
If you check the numbers he's not even the best green bay QB. He's not even the best active QB. Shit, Drew Brees is doing better and he is 5 years older.
so he had a bad game that doesn't make him overrated it means Vikings have a defense
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Please aaron rogers is overrated.
Marcus Moore he had 31 touchdowns 8 interceptions a playoff win nearly two four thousand yards and a 10-6 record... On a down year.
Wrestler 4life I can gave two shit about regular season stats especially when the majority of his career hes been playing in a division where his team has always been the favorite. You bring up the 10-6 season when they won the superbowl, y haven't they been back since. Its about winning in the playoffs when you are an elite QB. If you can say payton manning is overrated because of his lack of play in the playoffs you definitely can call Aaron rogers overrated. He very good but hes overrated. When he makes another superbowl appearance we can talk.shit Eli manning even got a better playoff resume than Aaron rogers
Wrestler 4life Aaron rogers overrated btw who beat the 15-1 green bay that year, the giants how ironic
Aaron Rodgers can't carry Tom Brady's shoes? Okay Tom Brady can't carry Aaron Rodgers team.
Exactly
Dude Rodgers has never had a bad team he is just a bad QB
Tom Brady has carried worst teams to the AFC championship.
tom brady can't carry an inflated football, much less a bad team. pats fans dont know how good their defense was in 2001 and they have no clue how good their players are now. the only reason they're any good is because of belicheck.
Daniel Yankun Rodgers is a bad QB? Ha. Smack yourself.
Okay so Rodgers is overrated for one bad game? Cmon now that's stupid. Rodgers is the best QB in football rn
Brady
Thats the only other QB you can mention in the same breath
cam newton is up there also big ben and id even say drew bres with the shitty core hes had through out his carer
Rodgers is better than Cam and Brees. Bress is a sure in HOFer but not better than Rodgers another guaranteed HOFer.
Big Ben is another HOF quarterback but Rodgers is better than him.
Mike McCarthy has run the same 6 plays since 2007 defenses figure it out after a while.
Skip just say this BS just so people can watch ! SHAPE is literary carry this show !
SHARPE And SAS need a show
Sharpe*
skip said facts fuck boy
u need a white perspective on topics n issues bro, cant have two blacks only talking about white america
Who the fuck is Shape?
Facts
Couldn't agree more with Michael Lombardi about the packers offense
I think its more so the vikings defense than rodgers..if you look at it we couldn't stop the deep pass without getting a PI..they should of kept going more vertical routes..not to mention the vikings special teams minus the punt block had the packers starting from their own 15 or less the whole night
yea the punter is good
Packers fan here. Regardless of the great Vikings defense, Aaron is playing poorly.
+Hayden Lindwall you are not a Packer fan.
Anthony Cameron Najera I have been a GB fan since birth, for over 20 years. He is missing throws that typical Aaron would never miss. He has't had a passer rating over 100 in 14 straight games, despite his career average being north of 104. He has a worse yds/attempt figure at 5.8 currently than every QB except Keenum and Gabbert. If you can't tell something is wrong, you're oblivious or in denial.
Hayden Lindwall hes with that chick now. Lol
Aaron Rodgers had a bad game, and even for me as a packers fan I was disappointed in him. That doesn't mean that he's overrated, and the vikings had a pretty good defense, so gotta show some respect for them as well.
This is from a Bears fan. Hes not overrated, but they jock ride him A TON. Hes a great quarterback who faced a defense that was better than him and an offense that was emerging. Give credit where its due people.
Aaron Rodgers was absolutely terrible last night
+LDaniel St you are a fucking moron.
agree.
He choked
BeastMode 21 And you are now blocked.
Their offense overall was not functioning properly.
The Green Bay Packers over the last 25 years have had only 3 losing seasons, they have made the Playoffs 18 times. They have played in 3 Super Bowls winning 2. They have played in 6 Conference Championship games. They have had only 3 starting quarterbacks in that time. They never had to cheat. That is a model of a truly great organization.
Cam went to the SB with a punt returner as is main receiver. Rogers has his best receiver and Jordy back and we still have excuses.
Rodgers looked bad yesterday.... But dont even act like he has any help on that offense as of now.. No1 can get open and they cant block. With that being said, he didnt look like himself yesterday and missed too many throws
So what? Every quarterback that has ever played has played a bad game.
The Packers are such a great football team. It is so disrespectful of all of these guys to act like they are not always a top five team in the NFL.
Any time there's the slightest competition in the NFC North -- Green Bay doesn't make the playoffs. His record against winning teams is dismal. He's good against poor teams, can't beat the better teams when it really matters.
Because Brady has been winning and the Pats have been involved in some crazy super bowls I haven’t paid much attention to the Brady vs Rodgers stuff. Most pats fans I believe kind of let the media put Rogers over Brady as the best QB “right now” but checking back into the conversation I now realize how absolutely delusional the media and packers fans are about this dude! So much so that he’s in the goat conversation??? The GOAT?? Really? Because he makes pretty long throws and has a good arm? I’m shocked... let me break this down...
Brady is better at the quarterback position than Rodgers. I don’t care how “talented” he is. Cam Newton is more “talented” than Rodgers! There are 20+ QBs more talented than Brady in the league right now! Talent is meaningless unless you execute! Brady is the common denominator of the success of the patriots, not even bellichek is! He sucked with the browns and sucked with the pats before Brady. Brady is the patriots system! Brady would’ve done better in Green Bay than Rodgers! Don’t give me stats... this isn’t baseball, stats simply don’t say very much in this sport, way way way too many unmeasured variables. Rodgers can’t win on the road, can’t come back when down in the 4th quarter, won one Super Bowl with favres team because he isn’t a leader, blames everyone but himself, routinely leads the league in throwaways, has a great o line but gets sacked like crazy because he runs around and can’t make quick reads and simply cannot make check down throws. His team sucks? Oh wait he’s had a dynamic running game for his whole career. Bad defense? Third in sacks right now. No receivers? Ok... name me one serious playmaker Brady has had over his 18 year career other than moss for one year and Gronk... he set the record for most number of diff receivers thrown to, and still won at least 11 games every year except is second year (which he won 9). Brady has had much worse teams, and won. Besides isn’t that what “goats” do?? Win anyway??? If he is the goat he can’t ever even have ONE losing season.
He’s athletic... super, means nothing. Win some games, he’s the goat of nothing and it is a TOTAL FORCED NARRATIVE by the media that he is even in that conversation because long term he will not and should not be remembered like Brady, or even like manning. And packers fans are eating it up... and so is Rodgers and it’s gonna be bad for your organization when he doesn’t get any blame at all. Manning is gone so they have to compare Brady to someone and I guess they chose this dude because he’s had some cool Hail Marys... just let it go the conversation has BEEN OVER. This is SILLY!
Best break down ever 🙌 👌and absolutely 💯
Brady's the greatest. Late 30s and still elite and contending for super bowls
Greatest on cheating
Lol stupid ass haters always bringing shit up that ain't true or have any proof. I bet your team is trash
Brady was always my favorite QB bar none!! Even though I'm a die hard Broncos fan I always favored Brady a little more than Manning.
Natty Brah 4 game suspension proves everything dumbass
ed ubinas right, cuz Manning always fucked you guys up in the playoffs or regular season while Brady gave you W's
Michael Lombardi just gained a new fan with that breakdown
1-4 in conference championship games, 1-8 when trailing in halftime in the playoffs, 0-42 when trailing to a super team by more than a point in the playoffs, only 2 game winning drives in the P.O. which was against the Cowboys (Both rigged btw for him to win) Especially the Dez Bryant catch, and 17 NFL Comebacks in history which is even less than Joe Flacco. Aaron had a top 5 WR core and a top 10 defensive team during his tenure with the Packers, yet he blew a 16-0 to the Seahawks and got outplayed by Kaepernick twice. One of the very rare times I actually agreed with Skip; He is ridiculously overrated imo.
4-1 td/int ratio son
This dude sound stupid 🤦
I think it's time to let Mike M. go!! Aaron Rogers is far from overrated skip! he needs something new. the offensive play calling is horrible and for whatever reason they don't let lacy do his thing all signs point right at Mike!!
Skip is right. Everybody else is somewhat right too. The thing is that Rodgers is great but Brady is greater. Two greats means everyone is somewhat right when it comes to talking about them. The debate was weak too.
Rodgers is the only reason we are where we are. Nd that's in the mix at the top of the heap every year stop disrespecting
Rodgers is great, nobodies disagreeing. But as the "undisputed best qb in the league" he is overrated.
what have you done for me lately..
Bro my Vikings gave you guys a beating tell me what the packers of done in the last 2-3 years? Nothing . The Viks are at the top of the NFC North.
Exactly, the only reason we have been good the last 6-7 seasons is due on rodgers part, but now that he is in a slump we can see just how mediocre we are when rodgers isn't playing like we are used to seeing. Regardless, Go Pack Go!!
Hope you didn't type that comment with the laces out
Rogers has been basking in his Super Bowl honeymoon for years. He has done nothing since the SB to continue to call him one of the best QB's in the game.
The funny thing is, that fumble he lost really wasn't on AR. That defender was basically unblocked because Bulaga made a mistake on that play. The INT was a little off, but Trae made a good play on the ball and Adams didn't fight to the ball hard enough.
He's starting to look washed up
I think he might be declining early
SHUT THE FUCK IF ANY OF YOU THINK AARON RODGERS IS WASH UP DONT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL
People said that last year, too. Then the Packers nearly got to the NFC Championship game. A defensive breakdown in OT kept them from getting there.
Last season was a down year for Rodgers so I overlooked it, but now he's off to a bad start again. Just saying he might be declining
Rodgers played a terrible game. I understand when the ball gets stripped, it happens, but to let it happen 2 more times in such a careless manner is just bad football. Worst performance ive ever seen from him.
Certainly a terrible game for him. Skip just wants to ignore Rodger's consistent past seven years.
Worst performance? How about his game vs the Broncos last season?
Mike Lombardi is absolutely right. One thing I wonder is, is that Rodgers played like 2-3rd drives whole preseason. I wonder if that has something to do with Rodgers and others as the starters played so little in the preseason. maybe they need to knock some dust off
Yo I didn't expect the Vikes to win. Their offense was so predictable. Either give AP the ball and when he is struggling give the ball to Stephon Diggs or Kyle Rudolph. The Packers offense featured so many different formations and the Vikes D still shut them down. I'm thinking about changing my NFC super bowl pick.
The reason the Vimings offense still did good work was because of Sam Bradford. He threw very well.
Lol hope your pick isnt the vikings.
Rodgers throws better than any quarterback you compare him to. That's a fact just off numbers,so no he's not overrated. The problem is GB doesn't have a great defense and the two times they did they won a Super Bowl and went to the NFC championship game. He's not gonna throw 5 TD's every game the times he has a bad game, the defense isn't there to help. He's better than Brady. And he's the best QB in the league.
Not every team has a gameplan around throwing 5 yard slants to Edelman and Amendola like Brady, Skip. Or you know have that unstoppable force Gronk.
Rodgers is a freaking monster... DEFINITELY not overrated... dude is just that talented... skip needs to chill out with knocking him. Although I love what skip says about tb12, rodgers is the ONLY living player that has a chance to take the "GOAT" crown away from tommy. Id take rodgers ahead of montana/marino ALREADY without multiple super bowl wins (yet). Love watching #12 on the packers play. Im a die hard pats/brady fan but I never miss a packers game. Aaron is special
Rodgers is following a similar career arc to Brett Favre. They started out as backups, worked their way up to the starting spot, won a Super Bowl their sixth year in the league at age 27, and then got complacent and full of themselves. After their Super Bowl wins, they continued to put up great passing numbers, but never reached the same level of great play and rested on their laurels. Because they won Super Bowls so early in their careers, I think they both took it for granted that they would win it all again, and didn't respect or appreciate how hard it is simply get to a SB, let alone win one.
Michael Lombardi NAILED IT. Who cares what Skip is talking about, Lombardi is the only reason to watch this clip....but it's a DAMN good reason.
Lombardi is absolutely right on this one. Green Bay is running Isolation route concepts even though None of the Receivers is beating his man consistently. There are no bunch Formations or pre snap motions or pick Plays that are designed to get someone open. In Addition to that Green Bay is playing out of a 11 personnel around 75% over the last 3 years while the league is around 53%. Mike McCarthy got bailed out in the past by Aaron Rodgers and talented Receivers (do you remember Plays from the past where you thought "man that was an amazing designed Play"). The Green Bay Coaching staff needs an injection of new blood but if the pas is any indication Mike McCarthy will not do that.
I don't think Aaron Rodgers is overrated.......but he sure as hell isn't the best quarterback in the league. Let's put that myth to rest right friggin' now.
Why does everybody get so bent out of shape about Skip. He doesn't like Rodgers and it's been that way for a while that's his on air persona along with Cowboys and Tebow lover. It was one game he has regressed a tad but McCarthy doesn't run enough. Mike was spot on about the schemes and plays McCarthy runs. I'm not gonna say Brady is a system QB or say Rodgers is overrated because it's the NFL to win MVPs and SBs and constantly get your team to the playoffs you have to be great. It's hard to do this consistently in pro sports, so there is no reason to overreact its just a tv show getting ratings.
lets just be honest people, Aaron Rodgers and the packers just lost to a better team last night. just give the Vikings credit for crying out loud. zimmer has changed this team around, and now are not the laughing stock anymore, and instead of everyone making up excuses for Rodgers just tip your hats off to the vikes. they were and have been on the packers hills for a minute now and finally starting last year they have start to make their presence felt, 1st off last year beating them in greenbay, winning the division, making the playoffs, and now beating them again. this game really should have been a blowout but because they couldn't recover a couple of fumbles and hold on to a couple of ints the packers were able to stick around and make this game closer than it really was suppose to be anyway.
Michael Lombardi hit this right on the head. Coming from a Packers fan.
Skip has no idea what Lombardi is talking about - Skip only knows sports in made up terms like "heart of hearts, will over skill, clutch gene, etc"
He's only overrated in the sense that people think he's the best qb in the league rn. I still think brady is the better quarter back when it counts rn than aaron
Bayless nailed it on his critique of Rogers. The man ALWAYS struggles against any good team.
I didn't see any of the Packers receivers get open yesterday
They did, and he missed a few of them
On a lot of plays receivers got open. Rodgers has just been too gun shy, he won't pull the trigger. It seems like he either doesn't trust the WR or he's second guessing himself... also Rodgers fundamentals have been awful
He got a Dead arm it ain't the same like it was 2008~2010.He's also has to stop throwing it from platforms.
Rodgers needs to stop holding the ball that fucking long
Why are people just not realizing the Vikings are just that good. Mike Zimmer is good!!
They really tried to go after Skip on this topic and still couldn't bring up equal arguments to combat Skip's. Smh. Lmao.
I think Shannon and Lombardi did. Skip just puts it all on Aaron when the team around him aren't doing great either along with the coaching.
Derek S Yeah I can definitely understand that.
Can't argue with Skip that "current" Aaron is not himself.
I'm not ready to say that Aaron Rodgers is overrated but he sure as hell has been lackluster and disappointing to begin the season
The shit that Skip says causes me to put vodka in my morning coffee.
Aaron Rodgers Is The Best Quarterback In The NFL Today
Tom Brady is a great quarterback, of course he is. But he's benefitted by playing under the greatest coach in NFL history; someone who's constantly catered his team to Brady's strengths/weaknesses as a player. Example: At 39 years old, Brady's arm isn't as capable for big plays and deep balls as it once was. So what does Bill Belichick do? He fills the depth chart with shifty slot wideouts, guys who get open quickly on quick slants and out routes. He gets two great TEs, one being the best of all time in my opinion, to dominate the middle of the field as big targets for Tom. It's a super easy offense to thrive in, and while Brady IS great, he does benefit a lot from it.
Now look at Rodgers. His system doesn't employ a lot of these characteristics. It's designed for big plays, beating coverages, and relying on the talent at the QB and WR positions to drive the ball down the field. When it works (2011-14) it's awe inspiring. But when just one part of that system doesn't work, it suddenly becomes extremely difficult to drive the ball and score. If you watched the pregame on NBC last night, a big topic was Rodgers' ability to improvise during plays. That's great, but when you have to improvise on almost every play, you're going to run into some mistakes regardless of how good you are. I'm sure if Aaron didn't have to do this as much, he wouldn't. But there's a problem somewhere on the offense that's forcing him to constantly wing it during games.
I'm not trying to give a definitive answer on who the better quarterback is (I say Rodgers but it can go either way), but when you compare two QBs you need to think about the situation they're put in.
idk, I'm not a Pats fan but I've watched that dude clutch up in playoff and superbowl games too many times to not recognize him as one of the greatest qb's of all time. Today I'd take Rodgers, but both in their prime? Brady.
Oh I'm with you 100%, all I'm saying is that context matters when comparing NFL players, especially QBs
But Shannon I thought you said the packers were going to "sweep em"??
Isn't it like Week 2? Scheech, sometimes teams actually find their rhythm later on in the season.
PREACH SKIP!!!!!
i love to see skip humiliate the overrated aaron
FUCK OFF BITCH
He's an extremely bias hater
Skip actually got schooled pretty bad on this topic I think
I can't lie ... I do too 😂😂😂😂😂😂
+H Bizzle man me three
Of course Green Bay is overrated. Arron Rodgers is a good QB not taking anything from him but one thing I noticed is that he folds up when he faces real defenses that can pressure the QB and beats him everytime.
Mike Lombardi ABSOLUTELY NAILS the Packers problems. It starts & ends with Mike McCarthy & his ego & Pittsburgh Stubbornness. He's been figured out by the NFL yet he refused to adjust.
The problem is not Rodgers. It's MIKE MCCARTHY. I say this as a Pats fan: Brady is brilliant, but he doesn't have nearly the skill set of Rodgers. He excels because he has perfected the ability to play in the system that BILL BELICHICK designed. You think Mike McCarthy would be winning games with Jimmy Garoppolo and Jacoby Brissett? You think he'd went 11-5 with Matt Cassel? HELL NO.
Michael Lombardi: The Packers rely too much on their talent and are not creative enough with their scheming
Skip: That's no excuse, because the Packers added more talent to their roster.
this will be the season to decide that
I remembered when Michael Irvin chewed out Michael Lombardi on NFL network
I have always been saying that this team is overrated. Finally people are realizing it.
Im a Die hard Packer and I agree Aaron hasn't been himself lately and he needs to show me something to say he's the best quarterback in the NFL. I do think tho he will pick it up in the coming weeks.
AARON RODGERS COST ME MONEY LAST NIGHT. BUT I FINALLY AGREE WITH SKIP ABOUT AARON RODGERS BEING OVERRATED
Why Aaron Rodgers is overrated: Skip loves Brett Favre and Tom Brady, therefore the guy who replaced Favre and has replaced Brady/Manning as the best quarterback in football is overrated.
Why Andrew Luck is overrated: Skip thought Robert Griffin III would be better and he was wrong
Why Lebron James is overrated: he did a stupid powder toss that Michael Jordan used to do and chose the number 23
Why none of these guys are overrated: Skip is always wrong.
That Patriots Superbowl ring is so fucking beautiful thank you Mike for wearing it
This Michael Lombardi guy knows what he's talking about
And then we beat Skip's cowboys in the playoffs
Skip - "your just mad cause u picked the packers " lmao
They also didn't give to to Lacy enough. They'd run on first when it's most predictable then not run it from then on. Bad play calling yesterday which is why they couldn't do anything
Brady's the best, second is Bree's third is Rodgers
Rogers complain to much.he always crying bout something
What? What are you talking about? You want to see what crying looks like go watch a Cam Newton press conference after a loss.
Shane Kennan
I don't watch post press conferences,could care less..but after most plays I see Rodgers crying and complaining to either the ref or one of his teammates.
aaron rodgers is basically jay cutler if jay cutler was a really good quarterback. in other words, they have the same personality but rodgers gets away with it more because he does better
binarystar300
u right I don't know what to think about Cutler.it almost seem like he don't care if he win or lose.
Rogers might but Rodgers does not.
Incredible analysis from Mike Lombardi
Brady is a system QB always has been always will be. Patriots haven't skipped a beat since he got suspended for cheating. That being said Rodgers played horrible last night and seems to have lost focus the past couple of years. It seems he is more interested in hobnobbing with the Hollywood types and resting on his past laurels than focusing on football. Of course Bayless is loving it, he has always hated Rodgers and always likes to kick him when he is down
this is such a true comment although i do respect brady and what he has done but this is true people need to understand how much of a great coach belichick truly is
+Tod Wilkinson last time pats played green bay who won??
Tod Wilkinson
matt cassel led them to 11 wins of course we know brady is GREAT an ALL TIME guy and one of the best to ever do it just saying the patriots still find ways to win without him
Tod Wilkinson
its not about that bro stop being rediculous nobody is saying this team is AS good without him just say this team CAN STILL be a good team weather he's playing or not
Tod Wilkinson
can you not just admit this team can be a winning team? why are you sucking brady off so hard nvm man think what you think but numbers dont lie this team has proven they win without him weather YOU choose to believe that or not numbers dont lie
This is like the 2014 season. Start off bad, then RELAX. The Vikings are this year's 2014 Lions
Anyone watching this is Jan 2022 after Packers are sacked by 49ers?
Micheal Lombardi is a disgrace to that name. He knows nothing about what the Packers do as football team.
Why is it when these young nfl players get into trouble? All of a sudden they become kids again. Drugs, alcohol, late night partying all of a sudden their kids. But when their running over line backers, scoring multiple touchdowns a game "he's a young man." The very second "the young man" has off field problems he's a "young kid."
Anyone notice Shannon's face when Skip said he was just mad because he picked the Packers? Lmao
Skip Bayless is always so serious, but I usually end up agreeing with him. I think Rodgers is one of the greats, he's made some amazing throws (especially last season) but if we're comparing him to Tom Brady, it's not even close.
Brady is more overrated than Rodgers by far. Take Brady off the team and Belichick will still win you 75% of the games. Take Rodgers off and you might win 50%, probably 40% the way the team is playing
micheal lombardi is a very smart guy
Rodgers's career is overrated. But the man himself is the best passer who has thrown a football. Without. A. Doubt.
Anyone who thinks Aaron Rodgers is overrated doesn't understand the game of football, and more importantly, doesn't understand the quarterback position. And yes, Aaron Rodgers is a better quarterback than Tom Brady.