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- Skip doesn't think Terrell Owens belongs in the Hall of Fame - but Shannon doesn't agree.
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TO is second all time in receiving yards, third all time in TDs. Lead the league in TDs three times. How is he not first ballot?
Writers panties are in a bunch b/c TO gave them hell.
+H1GHD3FF "Football is not a popularity contest" Jack Lambert
+Dwight Love well that's bs
I'm wondering that myself
+Spencer Stone your stupid
H.O.F isn't about being a nice teammate its about being the best football player at his position in a given era . Cant dismiss the numbers!
TO has 90+ more TD's than Irving, why is this even a conversation?
Sometimes I wonder..........did T.O. bone Skips girl?
LMAO
i think he did and taped it
lol
him and Floyd ran a train on her...
You forgot LeBron and Aaron Rodgers...
Shannon sharpe is legit as they come as far as analyst go
Yes sir
Best on football out of Undisputed and First Take. How will his basketball be though when the season starts?
Well said
do you feel skip and shannon have better chemistry than he and Stephen A. Smith
I agree. I love the insight Sharpe brings. Real talk about the game.
Skip is judging him in the locker room. Instead of judging him on the field.
Exactly. Its not the hall of fame for "good teammates", or "good locker room presence." All that should matter is what he did between the lines.
Shannon is wearing purple.
Skip is salty for TO telling to kick rocks and squeeze a butt cheeks
It's obvious,Skip never played connect four,for dam sure not football.
If he actually had team success on the field, you'd have a point.
This show made me forget about First take.
you right
weird right. But I'm sure coming NBA time first take will get more interesting. Basketball is SAS's thing.
What's so great? He talked to T.O. a few months ago on First Take. Max is more entertaining to listen than this clown Skip. He's contradicting himself by telling T.O. on FT that he will vouch for him as 2nd ballot
a show that's exactly the same thing talking about the same topics with the same format with Skip Bayless (again) made you forget about First Take?
Huh? What?!?!
Skip is the definition of a one trick pony...he said all this crap (with probably 99% of the same words) 5-10 years ago.
Take Shannon Sharpe off this show and it's complete recycled garbage!
Exactly. It's the same show. Skip doesn't evolve. I like Skip as well. However, his Tim Tebow praise and his Lebron hate is tired and boring.
Skip is talking real nonsense.
Always has
+H1GHD3FF Hey can't dispute the numbers so he goes to the drama argument.
Yep. This is the Skip I know . He gets in his feelings and it takes over his ability to use logic .
let me explain when 1 of the greatest most decorated coach wants nothing to do with you and your a superstar like to you have to ask why
^^^WTF??
Shannon and Skip are a great combination. Shannon is calm and speaks with candor and respectfully. Skip is almost a totally different person.
I'm not a T.O. fan but he is a Hall of Famer.
You are so right.
Stop replying to yourself you loser, typical Eagles fan
Spoken like a true Cowgirl. Go suck on a used tampon.
until Shannon can't take anymore nonsense & screams at him LOL
Skip sometimes gets too far away from logic and speaks from an emotional place. Reminds me of my bitch (pause).
That's funny as hell . Lol
She sounds like a lucky women. /sarcasm/
bitch = dick
haha lol yea
CTFU (PAUSE).........CTFU again
We got rapists, murderers, and drug users in the HoF. But let's keep a guy out because he was an annoying teammate and showboat.
Enrique Godinez Hey idiot, I was just making the point that people have done worse and got inducted into the HoF.
Stephen Pamphile facts
*Yessssss*
Yup
False equivalency but ok
Skip has no argument, but he insists on saying something. HOF is about the most talented that fulfilled it.
It's called karma man. But it won't matter T.O. is such a narcissist all he will do is bitch and complain instead of reflecting on what an asshole he was. T.O. will eventually get in. But they're going to make sure he gets a slap or 2 in the face of his ego first to make a point.
He fullfilled it for San Francisco with a major catch but is that enough?
Pretty much. Unless you commit a major crime
Skip is full of it. More than have the peeps in the Hall had issues worse than T.O.. Its about numbers and contribution to the game. THATS IT!
They Shot Malcom imo, TO would have won a superbowl with McNabb if it weren't for that asterisk on New England. Remember the whole scandal where they were trying everything to cheat, even by getting lip readers to translate over the mic?
Michael Irvin was great but he’s no where near Jerry Rice, Terrell Owens, and Randy Moss
Add Calvin Johnson you got my Mt. Rushmore of WRs.
@@sabreeemneely idk you forgetting about Larry
I'll take Calvin Johnson over Terrel
and Irvin...
Add Marvin Harrison and Steve Smith or Ocho.
I totally agree.
he did play for the superbowl,,,with the eagles
yeah they said that. but he didnt get them there. he didnt play the two playoff games leading up to the SB
didn't he put them in position to play 2 home playoff games
Sylvester Jones ***** i never said he was bad, i just pointed out that the Eagles lost in the post season with him and won 2 without him.
not only that but he was THE BEST EAGLE in that game..... i really don't think we wouldve made the playoffs that year without him. He made #5 a better QB. And what did McNabb do the rest of his career AFTER T.O. left... nothing. What the EAGLES done since then.....
NOTHING!
Put T.O. in the HOF and lets move on
Keith Yo what about Dawkins...
T.O. is an all time great no question. The relationship he had with the media is what's keeping him out. The media should not be able to hold him from football immortality because of their feelings.
He's way better than Irvin
FR, I would take TO over Irvin any day
Who ever would take TO over Irvin values ego over somebody who never ever played the games for numbers (& could've led the league in receiving) and sacrificed his stats and body every game for the betterment of the team. There is a reason troy aikman praises Irvin over any other teammate and all of TOs quarterbacks hate him. This is the reason owens never won. Irvin 3 > Owens 0
@@nickgojc7905 Eli has 2 rings and I'd take Marino over Eli. Irvin can't carry TO's jock, it's not up for debate, it's a fact. Look at the numbers... Michael is the most overrated WR and possibly NFL player of all time. Just because he is a TV personality and has a big mouth does not make up for his abysmal career numbers.
*Big fact*
@@donsremodeling I wouldnt go that far with what you said about Irvin but TO is definitely way above Irvin
Skip still mad about what TO did to his Cowboys
Wtf does the locker room have to do with performance.Michael Jordan was the worst team mate to have but guess what, when it was time to play he played the hardest. Stupid debate over this topic. Everything skip said is irrelevant and has nothing to do with his career as a player
couldn't have put it better myself! No one has ever come out and argued that MJ was a good teammate or a friend. It doesn't matter.
Great comment
+Marcus Moore your right Horace Grant said that Bill Cartwright threatened to ruin his career if he yelled at him.
Jordan's attitude and competitiveness elevated his teammates to greatness in 6 NBA Championships. What did B.O's do? Nothing. A big old goose egg. And it got him run out of each city. His attitude hurt more than it helped. All his numbers did was keep inflating his already over inflated ego. No sir not a great comment. Comparing what Jordan did to the likes of Owens??? You sir know nothing about sports. Here is your dunce hat. Go to the corner and everybody else please point your fingers and laugh at this man.
+Michael Heath He did not see those 6 NBA crowns until Grant,Pippen came along with other ppl.
Played in a super bowl with a broken leg, with incredible numbers through his whole career. He deserves it at this point.
Naw he was selfish for that according to skip
@@ChreamOhWheat yea but we all know skip is a bit on the dense side when it comes to bias and lacking true objectivity for the game.
Come on Skip lets cut the bullshit now, "no ballot" come on man.
He loves Michael Irvin which Irvin was great, but Skip doesn't wanna mentioned back in 97 or 98 when Irvin stabbed his teammate over a haircut if we're going to talk about locker room distractions . If you're not going to talk about that then Skip shouldn't be talking about T.O.s short comings off the field .
And dont forget all the cocaine he got caught with too!!!!!!!!!
I'm a 49ers fan myself and so I can understand where Skip is coming from but still he's first ballot because of what he done on the field he played like beast mode in the WR position where ever he goes and a total package that can do it all.
Shannon killed that argument!! Skip gotta stop ignoring the facts in this one!!
TO should be in the HOF no doubt about it. No one cares what happens in the locker room or outside the field. its between the lines.
Forget the locker room, its about what's happening on the field. Dude is a Hall of Famer, this shouldn't even be up for discussion...
same shit I was just sayin
if T.O. does not get on and McNabb does it will be a crime....T.O. went off on mcnabb cause he quit(mcnabb) mid 3rd quarter in the super bowl...go back and watch you see it in his eyes and body language. and that is what pissed off T.O. who came back early from a broken ankle to play for his team...I believe be was just very passionate about winning, sometimes to a fault...and it is sad one of the greatest ever will be remembered for that and not his talent
webshootah77 that super bowl loss was all McNabb everyone who actually watched the game should see that. no reason they should have lost that
webshootah77 You Exactly right Bruh!!!!
Gh0stxRider Exactly McNabb gave up. Simple as that!!!
I'd be shocked if McNabb gets in. He was very good, not great. Eli was very good, not great. Eli beat the GOAT twice in the SB=LOCK HOFer.
You think if Bayless was hooked to a lie detector would be telling the truth about TO not being a HOFer?..I do not.
Shannon's last line was gold.. skip is ridiculous
Skip's point is valid, if it is the hall of fame for character, granted, but this the hall of fame for "what you do on the football field" as Shannon stated, so he should be a first ballot. That he wasn't says that the judges broke the rules that they agreed to abide by!
You meant Skip's point is invalid* right?
It was a play on words. His point inevitably, in my opinion, is invalid
If the hall of fame is for character then the only ones who would be in there is Vince L coach of the packers. You have OJ in there mike irving the coke head in there deion i had sex with over 100 woman in there and so on. Stop it skip.
These "judges" are prolly all old school dudes who can't handle change in the game. I bet they were fuming when Cam and his Dab won the MVP.
Exactly what happens when you let a guy that couldn't catch a cold in his underwear in a snowstorm decide who gets into a sports hall of fame.
???? what are you talking about
You don't get a cold from standing outside.
Victor Hagan but he is top 5 WR
Look up Michael Irvin stats compared to Terrell Owens Irvin not even in T.O. league.
Skips just mad that he didn't bring a championship to Americas team lol I think that's why he is hating
you know what? lol that actually makes sense. never thought of it that way
Everyone knows TO is a first ballet hall of famer.
He's always been bashing him I think T.O. did something to him in San Fran!
Yes, fuck a girl that would never fuck Skip.
iloveyoumadhuri triggered
I remember one play when romo had threw an interception at the goal line on the other side of the field (opposite of T. o.) and he ran him down and Made the tackle inside the other 5 yard line when everyone else gave up on the play. Say what you want, but t.o. NEVER gave up on a play.
Owens was a complete and total beast at WR. I don't care what he did "off" the field.
Skip is a perpetually frustrated "wanna be" athlete who never mounted to anything so he sits on his media thrown trying to knock others down.
Complaining that T.O. led the league is drops is like complaining about Reggie Jackson in his prime leading the league in strikeouts. You accept it because the flip side is so productive you can live with the mistakes.
I watched his entire career..and I NEVER saw him take a play off...or mail in a game.
Shannon is so correct as are the people posting that Skip is bitter that T.O. didn't deliver his ring while in Dallas.
What a complete and total fool.
So Skip honestly think Randy Moss is not going to the Hall of fame when it's his turn to be eligible because he turn against the Patriots and Raiders?
MrB0gart so did Terrell Owens with the eagles he played in the super bowl 4 weeks after breaking his ankle and have screws put in it
If the HOF selection was solely based upon what happened off the field then it would be a very small group of people. However, since the HOF is based upon what you do on the field, then T.O should be in the HOF. I would take T.O over any receiver playing today because of what he can do on the field.
I guess you also think Darren Sharper should go in too
darren sharper couldve fucked a 1 day old baby in the ass but that doesnt change the fact that he deserve to be in the hall of fame. lets say there's a quarterback in the nfl that played in the league for 15 years but was never good enough to be a starter but he was the most generous and unselfish person off the field. do you think that would be enough to get him into the pro football hall of fame? the answer is no... so if someone cant get into the hall of fame for the positive things they do off the field why should someone be kept out because of the negative? i understand what darren sharper did was fucked up and people dont like when people who do fucked up shit get rewarded even when they deserve it. but if he gets inducted into the hall of fame its not because he's a rapist it's because he's one of the greats just like oj simpson.
+mritizwatitiz What about Michael Vick!!!!!!
Dwight Love michael vick is definitely a hall of famer. anyone who revolutionized the game deserve to be in there just like gale sayers. gale sayer only rushed for 4.9k yards and 39 tds yet he's in the hof and thats because he changed the way people ran the ball.
mritizwatitiz If that is the case then Randall Cunningham will be wearing a HOF Jacket before him just like Fran Tarkenton is in Canton already he was one of the first mobile QBs in the 60s.
Skip.....go sit down!
He is sitting, brah.
Guess he gotta stand then
Good point Shannon at the end!_"He's destroying defenses once they got to the field!" Case Closed! Give that man his due! T.O. is Hall of Fame worthy!
TO should be 1st ballot. Just the catch against the Packers alone.
Imagine being 2nd 3rd and 6th in all time stats and not getting in. Crazy
TO is one of the best I've ever seen. I've never seen Jerry rice I saw TO and Mose I think TO is better.
Jerry Rice is the greatest pure football player ever, regardless of position. His statistics and records are all the proof you need.
Don King Terrell could've broken all of jerrys records if he was allowed to play as long as Jerry
Moss is better
Moss didn't block and he didn't like going over the middle...plus he quit on his team numerous times...I'll take TO any day
JodieJoe26 Then you'd lose
T.O went into 1 SB and came back from an ankle injury. He still balled out with!! Let that sink in Skip
He ain't play with rage when Sean Taylor hit him
#RIP21
#TOFIRSTBALLOTHOF
Crazy how young Shannon and skip look just 6 years ago, compare to the recent videos
He ain't running for prom this isn't a popularity contest. T.O is arguably the third best receiver to play the game. I hate Owen's attitude but the guy was a straight up monster and stats back that up
That's the whole story he had a broke ankle in the Super Bowl and was doing work .
Skip doesn't deserve to talk ever again T.O is the 3rd greatest receiver ever
Skip is perfect for entertainment on a debate show because he's so thick headed and stubborn. You cant convince this man of anything no matter how convincing your case is. He loves his Cowboys, Spurs, Tom Brady and Steph Curry, and hates Lebron. And no matter how right you are, he will never change his mind about any of those things
shannon is so right on this one
It's not even a question. TO is a HOFer. He'll get voted in.
You cannot talk about football in the 1990s-2000s without mentioning TO. You certainly cannot discuss the wide receiver position without mentioning him either.
He'll be in there.
Owens was bad ass. as a cowboys fan I hated playin him but I loved it when he came to dallas he was exciting to watch, every time he had the ball you knew he was bout to break away and score
it's about what he does on the field and he is the 2nd best wr I've ever seen
Third, bitch. No way he is above Rice or Moss. Get your shit straight.
+They Call Me Tatter Salad Moss was more exciting, TO was better.
They Call Me Tatter Salad better than moss way more complete as a wr
right 2nd behind rice all time left it all on the field every game
right 2nd behind rice all time left it all on the field every game
He was destroying them once he got to the field. classic
Skip is just old fashioned. You need people like him, Ochocinco, Odell in the NFL not these boring Yes people with no personality
T.O. Isn't a criminal.... The guy is legit
TO is the 2nd best Wideout of all time... Yes above Randy Moss... TO is the Kobe Bryant of football.. He expected all his QBs to be just as good as he was. And they acted like Shaq and got tired of it.
Stupid
He wasn't better than moss. Moss was unstoppable in his prime.
growing up watching them TO was better to me. he did so much more on the field than moss.
+J you can make a good argument for both. I think moss had better hands and was taller but TO was stronger and could break away for big plays
Mane they couldn’t pay me enough to listen to Skip Bayless for 1 hour much less 3 or 4.
Skip overrates Michael Irvin.
Funny the Team Obliterater stuff comes out again right when the HOF votes are being counted.
T.O. wasn't no joke. Top 3 Wide Receiver in the history of the NFL. You have guys who are in the HOF who have done way worse. Drug addicts you name it..
Skip is off point once again
It's Duly Noted. Skip Bayless HATES Terelle Owens.
skip is so wrong here
skip will never know what it's like to strive to be the best on the field and fight for victory, so much so that it destroys your emotional and rational thinking , he expects him to be a robot after going to war
Shannon should have his own show, skippy is holding him back.
Hall of famer all day...skip bayless is such a hater just makes my skin crawl.
HE PLAYED IN THE SUPERBOWL ON ONE LEG AND STILL DOMINATED TO SHOULD'VE DEFINITELY BEEN FIRST BALLOT
I agree with skip that he wrecked Philadelphia but TO is a HoF
Actually he elevated the Eagles and came to the Super Bowl to play.
Carlos Jones They went to the SB without him bruh...
+Lukas Calov he'll na the egles haven't been to the super bowl sense he left
+Lukas Calov he'll na the egles haven't been to the super bowl sense he left
+Lukas Calov he'll na the egles haven't been to the super bowl sense he left
ANYONE DOUBTS T.O IS DESERVING OF ENTERING ARE WRONG...T.O CAME TO MY EAGLES SAME YEAR WE WENT TO A SUPERBOWL IN 2004 ......PLAYED WITH A BROKEN FOOT....WE LOST BY 3 PTS TO PATS.... Hall of Fame IS ABOUT #S.... NOT OFF FIELD ISSUES
skip bayless looks like the guy on the 20 dollar bill
The "guy" is Andrew Jackson
+NY Boricua Jackson is not very popular among the native Americans.
yeah i know, and i also think replacing skip with harriet tubman would leave viewers far better informed on the world of sports
+daedal Its true Andrew Jackson will be replaced by HARRIET TUBMAN very soon!!!!!!!
chewyismycopilot lol savage
This is why the Media picking awards or selecting the Hall of Fame is the problem in sports. Even when Shannon read the laws to Skip, he still ignored. When he read the stats to him, he still ignored it. The media picks MVP's and etcetera.....Favortism by reporters dilutes the significance of awards. This is a prime example of what I'm talking about.
Skip is so stubborn the numbers don’t lie Terrell owens is a hall of famer I can say that as a loyal niners fan and come on skip there is no way any logical way any nfl fan would rank Michael Irvin over jerry rice but what do you expect from a bais cowboys fan who clearly can’t be objective
In the four major team leagues (NFL, NBA, NHL, and MLB), in their Halls-of-Fame, you would have no difficulty finding a large laundry list of pricks in either of them. Their personalities didn't disqualify them. Is Terrell Owens a prick? Yes. Was he a pain in the ass to put up with in the locker room and on the sidelines? Without question. However, with that being said, his numbers speak for themselves, and his numbers alone are Canton caliber. Even with his attitude, he would get my vote just based on the numbers he put up.
I'm sorry, but TO is no question a hall of famer. He did all that, but when you look at his stats he is NO DOUBT a HOF. He played like a beast and deserves recognition.
#ThatsMyQuarterback
Shannons face in the thumbnail is great 😂😂😂
The ultimate hater returns
As much as I hate Terrell Owen's and I'm a Giants fan, I think he should be in the Hall of fame. Now there probably gonna delay a couple of years because of his negatives or distractions whatever, but as much as I hate him because I admit I'm a giant fan he will be or should be in the hall of fame eventually in time.
t.o. did play for a Superbowl in the 2004-2005 season when he was with the eagles they lost to the patriots that yr
He might have meant won a super bowl.
if eagles won that Superbowl, Terrell Owens would of won MVP that game
I love the hostess:She looks cute and let's the guys talk.
Like Charles Barkley said, 'Skip Bayless is a punk'.
Shannon is Sharp.
I really fuck with Skip, but no in HOF that's crazy
This show is better than First Take. Fuck Max and Molly!
Romo was the reason TO failed in Dallas
This is why I love Skip. The fact he said TO is a no HOF is pure theater satire. He believes the shit that is coming out of his mouth.
I can't stand Terrell Owens; he represents everything wrong with professional athletes...he's a hard core narcissist, he's a locker room cancer, he's not a team player, he's talked mad shit about almost every QB he's played with.
That said...
His numbers alone warrant HOF induction. Owens is second all time in receiving yards, third in Tds, sixth in catches, and he played in Super Bowl XXXIX on one leg and still had nine catches for 122 yards.
Owens was a reprehensible human being while in the NFL but his numbers and dominance put him among the best receivers in NFL history. Only Jerry Rice and Randy Moss were demonstrably better.
he was an asshole not reprehensible you doorknob! killers, rapists, child molesters and thieves are reprehensible
Robert Daugherty ...Stop being all litigious and shit. Narcissists are not good people.
+SuperThumpasaurus I never seen T.O quit. Randy moss I seen him quit in Oakland and Minnesota.
Hi It's me ...Owens didn't quit, he always played his ass off. And Randy Moss didn't talk mad shit about every QB he played, Owens did. Moss took plays off and was by all accounts a team player and a good locker room influence. Owens worked tirelessly and was a toxic personality.
+SuperThumpasaurus and Owens has better stats Than moss. When nobody wanted him and everybody wanted moss.
Shannon Sharpe is a bright and thoughtful dude. Like listening to his thoughts.
If we based it on off the field antics Lawrence Taylor wouldn’t be in the hall of fame Skip gotta stop this
Rip greg knapp
He doesn't care for T.O. but he knows that in his heart of heart T. O. belong in the HOF
skip is crazy man. the HOF is based on numbers which is objective regardless of what he did off the field
Terrell Owens is top three if not top two
T.O. Is a legend! Facts!
Producing on the field means nothing to skip. It's what goes in the locker room and in T.O.'s driveway that matters to Skip. What goes on on the football field means very little to Skip Bayliss.
and this is the liability of having writers vote on players. as a 49ers fan, i loathed TO for years but would never make a foolish argument that he wasn't 1st ballot
Anybody who doesn't think T.O is first ballot HOF, have not been watching football the past 15 years.
It's a numbers and Statistics game. T.O deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. Numbers speak louder than Character.
Aint no player pullin skip aside to talk about another player 😂
Skip only argument is what he did off field. If that is your only argument then you lost this. T.O was a monster on field and what you do on field is what matters.
Facts
Skip is literally saying the hall of fame isn't about the best players being there. Wtf???
This show has been great so far, Sharpe has been doing a great job.
I agree with the fact that TO should have handled his situations different especially in Dallas but he's still no questions, hands-down HOF. NO DEBATE
Skip is beyond bias on this point. He must really hate T.O. to not call that man a hall of famer.
T.O is absolutely first ballot! Screw Skip the Hater!
Lmao Skip is the biggest troll