Three Cheap AliExpress SSDs: Are they trash?
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2023
- In one of my previous videos I looked at a bunch of cheap Micro SD Cards where most of them turned out very well. This time I look at a couple of SSDs and compare them to the cheapest comparable SSD from my country and a 7200RPM HDD.
For me it's every so often an Issue, that I get asked to "Make my PC faster". And one of the first steps is to replace the HDD with an SSD. However telling people that the parts cost ~20$ already sours the mood, thus I looked at these SSDs to see if they are a good alternative. And they indeed are.
Images: catbox.moe/c/duwr9b
If you want to buy them you can find them here:
ACOS: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DlH...
BU KING: de.aliexpress.com/item/100500...
Somnambulist: de.aliexpress.com/item/100500...
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In regards to long-term testing. I started testing some of the drives / cards, but would like your input on this issue. Check out this community post for more info: ua-cam.com/users/postUgkx-QyWJm01kRqExuClV2dTtY_9YXvas27w
I took the risk and bought a 2tb ACOS about a year ago, I was expecting for it to fail within the year, but I am pretty impressed to see that it has lasted thus far.
Nice
keep up with the good work, its always good to test cheap bargains and get to know were to spend your money on a budget
I bought "XrayDisk" and "KingSpec" and they are very reliable SSD´s. Just a warning the only SSD that melted inside after 2 weeks of use was the "Goldenfir".
They are very reliable : aka didn’t burn after few days…
Goldenfir used to be a fully micron ssd. It was a 1:1 BX500 copy with different firmware
Goldenfire, lol
non of them hold there speed after 20-30%, why you promoting trash stuff lmao
@@manyord7089 Im sorry didnt want to promote anything that its not working for someone , but im only saying for a cheap ssd it worked for me....i do a lot of mining don need an ultra expensive ssd...just my opinion, but im aware that its crap overall yes
Thanks, I knew all I wanted, this was helpful
I picked up a couple of the Somnambulist drives a while back because I liked the design and wanted to see if I could swap the case over to a higher end drive. That idea died pretty fast when I saw it was just plastic but I decided to throw one into a system to see how it performed. Been using it as a boot drive for almost 6 months and it's held up pretty well.
Hello friend.Have you tested the disk's temperatures during operation? Because I suspect that with a metal cover they will have much lower temps.
@@Athenian888 It gets a little warmer than I'd like, but I haven't seen it ever get into dangerous temps. At the moment it's sitting at 40c and the highest I can remember seeing is around 60c.
i got a Somnambulist 64gb ssd for 6.79nzd included tax and shipping on welcome deal works great for the price
@@MrJ0mmyhow are the speeds? Recently bought one and it has an issue where speeds are fast for about 6 seconds then suddenly drop to about 10mb/s.
Any solution for this?
@@alispeed5095That cause it doesn't have any cache. No possible fix other than allowing the disk to use system RAM as cache but I have never tried that.
i've got dirt cheap drives like these in my servers, hp proliant g6's, and they've ran nonstop for 4 years.
these drives are great if you have the space for multiple drives, and the know-how to setup a raid.
I've just got a dell server with 10 sff bays and I'm seriously considering this
u've earned a new subscriber, keep up ❤️
Thanks. I hope you enjoy all future content as well!
I'm surprised this channel isn't big.
Well it grew larger than I ever thought it would get to be fully honest. :D
Cool
They are cheap but not the best value without dram cache. For gaming yeah, but def very slow when they deal with many small files
Great Video i was wondering how cheap aliexpress ssd were
will you do a long term update?
Yes. I already did one in the community tab. The Somnambulist started tobnot have any brocken blocks, but would randomly disconnect
Only time will tell, i have an intel ssd since 2014 and it still works flawlessly
Intel SSDs are pretty good to begin with and even used ones are a good bet when looking for reliable storage. As far as I know they did shut down their enterprise SSDs though which were fantastic (but also expensive).
Were you able to test if they all work with HDD status LED? Noticed that some drives would never light up the HDD led
I don't recall the status LEDs not being on, but I didn't really look out for it.
I think I never even in my life looked at the HDD LED.
really good content your making tho
Not sure if you can pass a trim command over ide, probably best to use something like an x25-e for that kind of thing.
Do you mean trim as in with SCSI? In that case I'm sure it would work. Although with that kind of application I'd go with more reputable manufactures.
you can pass any command over IDE. SATA SSDs are IDE.
yooooo dude! what is this F3 benchmark thingy and where can i find it? thank you man.
F3 is originally a tool to check if a Flash Drive has the advertised capacity. Similar to h2testw.
You can easily install it with smth like `sudo apt install f3`.
You can find all you need to know here: fight-flash-fraud.readthedocs.io/en/stable/
@@dyXurChannel ahh! thanks for the info man!
i just used something like that to verify a 128 GB flash drive that i got from Micro Center for free. Even though it was from Micro Center (they had some special that if you show up you get free drive with a coupon), it was free, so figured i would check it out lolol. well, it turns out that the drive WAS the full 128 GB capacity, and the damn test took OVER FOUR HOURS!!! 😂😂🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭
@@dyXurChannel oh, it turns out that i used h2testw to verify my flash drives.
They WILL slow down considerably on big file transfers
Well done. I have bought few of them, including 1TB Somnabulist and after few months I have zero issues with them. I know that they are DRAM-less but as a game storage they work great. Considering that only few manufacturers make flash they might be built with the same parts like big brands but without big margin for marketing.
Another commenter mentioned it, but there is a chance that the flash is b-ware. But for data that isn't important it's really great
@@dyXurChannel "the flash is b-ware"
How's the drive holding up now?
For games chinese SSDs with large storage looks good.
@@Zangetsu_X2oh its beware alright. With chinese product you never know when theyll swap for cheap part to make a higher margin.
However in this case they mean rejected bits from Major Manufactures. But minor isduex that can be corrected with software. But Major Manufacturers dont wanna risk it since they have 3-5 warranties.
are you planning to do another episode with flash drives?
The next one in this "series" is gonna be about M.2 SSDs. I'll do flash drives after that.
Did you make any reliability/torture tests? My problem with these drives is knowing if I'll lose all data or not
Reliability test are ongoing, but if the data you store in it is important, then I'd rather go with a known brand that offers some form of data recovery if it fails within X years.
Bought 2 ACOS drives to use as external SSDs, not problematic at all
Been doing the same with a 512GB one. Have it encrypted for backing up important and sensitive data (taxes, contracts, etc.) and so far it works very well.
After 5 moths, how is it going? I wanted to buy one too
Actually for OS responsiveness you want to compare random read/write 4k speeds, not linear r/w speeds.
I'm guessing you used an enclosure instead of directly connecting to SATA?
Yes. I've hooked them up over USB instead of SATA.
I found the SATA results to be too flaky for a good comparison. Especially accross multiple PCs.
@@dyXurChannel first off, you are awesome and thank you so much for your work!!! but what do you mean by flaky? i've always found using SATA connections to be better and faster all around compared to USB connected drives. having to convert between SATA to USB with adapters often slows things down, and some IDE drive commands don't always make it through for some reason.
BUT: i have seen different computers have different behaviours on the same drive before. like some drives that are having problematic issues on one machine might able to be seen and recognized and read on write when using another machine.
@@zangetsu6638 The problem I had with SATA, was that the depending on how the other SATA ports were hit the SSD would spew vastly different results (might be a power draw issue on my end?). This made the results quite flaky and unusable. On USB however this was not a problem and my main concern with these SSDs was not speed, but if they are the correct size, so it didn't matter as much.
@@dyXurChannel ahh, i see. thanks for the explanation! btw how many drives were hooked up at the same time? i think that i've probably only ever had two SSDs hooked up at once, so maybe that helped with ? lol i don't know.
Also, i've found the different types of SATA controllers on the motherboards act differently from one model to the next model of SATA controller. it was nice to have more than one available computer that was very different from each other, to test iffy drives. i was surprised that some chipset / controllers were buggy or picky and sensitive, while others were more forgiving and could still access failing drives.
but i usually almost always hit the highest speeds over SATA than over USB.
@@zangetsu6638 The only PC I had in use when making that video was my NAS with 6HDDs and 2 SSDs and my Desktop with 2 SSDs & 3 HDDs. So that was very likely the problem
Im actually surprised there werent just sd Cards slapped in them. Although the speeds should have tipped me off XD
I think it would be more expensive for them to make an adapter board and put a SD of that size in there.
It would've been funny though, since I know that "SSD"s like that exist.
That's called eMMC.
@@gersonl eMMC is like 1 step above SD cards lol, they both suck for long term use
@@jsnotlout3312 basically eMMC is on board sd flash memory, no?
@@gersonl Yeah pretty much. I thought it was slightly different, but it appears to be the same
My hard drive is dying and I am thinking to upgrade to an SSD, is it worth it to use as an internal SSD.
Oh it is definitely worth going to an SSD. Of course your best option would be a M.2 SSD if you have the slot for it, but even a regular SATA SSD (the type in the video) is going to be a massive upgrade over a HDD (especially if its a 5400rpm and not a 7200rpm one).
"My hard drive is dying and I am thinking to upgrade to an SSD, is it worth it to use as an internal SSD."
Looking at aliexpress now the prices don't seem any cheaper than know brands from amazon, in fact factor in the chances of import tax etc and it's just not worth it especially for UK anyway.
It's the same buying in Australia at the moment. Any price we see on ali expressed automatically incurs 10 percent GST.
When looking at higher capacity drives, the difference with A-brands isn't that big. The Acos 1TB version is €43.55 (incl. VAT for my country) on Ali while a Samsung 870 QVO costs €60 on Amazon. That's less than €17 more for an A-brand with years of warranty.
There is definitively a point of diminishing returns, that's true. But I also wouldn't trust one of these SSDs with over 1TB+ of data to begin with.
@@dyXurChannelalso in other countries the Samsung is way more expensive due to unregulated prices
I'm using Somnambulist 1tb from 6-7 months now I was using it as a external hard drive then swapped my internal hard drive (HDD) with Somnambulist 1tb. It's working fine i never have had any issues the temp sensor on these Chinese SSDs are messed up other than that it is working perfectly on my pc.
That's great to hear!
Yeah the temp sensors suck, but it also doesn't help, that the case is plastic and not metal to help a bit with the heat.
is the ACOS one still working
Yes. The ACOS is still working.
Depending on your back up schedule and method, disc drives are probably the most valuable component on a computer because of the data. I wouldn't venture too far away from Samsung and Western Digital. I'd never touch a drive without a DRAM cache. If money is tight, it's better to sacrifice capacity than quality.
use a cheap bottle of acetone/makeup remover and a wetwipe/cotton pad
(the logos/santa will come right off its just ink on a plastic case)
Interesting. Did you try that or do you assume it would work.
I have no acetone around atm, but might try with some other chems I have around. A completely unbranded SSD would look nice IMO.
@@dyXurChannel I have no tried it on these but thats how I remove brands/logos off USB sticks /front of TVs and so on that is black or white plastics (wipe with acetone leave it so soak on the ink then rub hard a few times with some more eventually it comes away)
Yeestor based SSD are trash. The Realtek RayMX ones are just slightly above. You should go with SMI and Maxiotek based ones.
But the unic problem is chinese SSDs is very used, most in general is the same in low prices.
В этих ssd простой контролер без буфера. От этого скорость и падает
Yeah I would be surprised if they had any cache on board
I'm not sure id trust my 500gb of precious cat hone video memories to "random SSD brand #2"
I'm fine with cheaping out on all sorts of parts, but when it comes to storage, i pay the premium.
Oh absolutely. With now close to 1k pictures & videos of my own cats I wouldn't do that either.
For precious stuff it's best to go with the 321 rule. 3 Copies at 2 locations with 1 off sites.
10 dollar ssd is my recommendation
Let’s see your h2test results
F3 (which are the values used in the video) is comparable to h2test. Also as far as I know h2test is only for windows, which I don't use.
Useless test. Read/Write speed tests on SSD don't mean anything since that behaviour changes radically with fragmentation and wear.
You should have checked the amount of overprovisioning on each drive which is the only relevant metric for an SSD.
And you need to fill and empty the drives around 500-1000 times (depending on the flash type) to get a useful test if you don't know anything about the parts.
Real deal braker is if the ssd has dram cache
Don't you mean the opposite?
@@dyXurChannel haha i mean if it does not have the dram cache than it is nono for me so yeah the oposite :-D
Plus, you have the added benefit when you buy them of funding the People's Liberation Army! The people of Vietnam, Taiwan and Tibet thank you for your purchase!
To be fair, most things I see/buy in stores today are "Made in China" as well. It is what it is, but I get the sentiment.
Why doesn't people of america thank him?
Don’t do that. China is always a thread to other countries’ sovereignty, including Vietnam, Taiwan, Tibet, Mongolia, West Uyghur. We absolutely won’t thanks you for supporting PLA.
Fuck Vietnam, Tibet.
Not Taiwan because I have tsmc shares
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Acos are TRASH. They fail, I bought a bulk of 20 and at least 10 failed and went completely unusable after a couple of weeks of being in a PC.
That's good to know. Is there a common way that they fail?
@@dyXurChannel I did not notice a pattern, they most of the time gave BSOD while using Windows, but it also happened to me to have a few fail at a restart or during the Windows installation.
@@dyXurChannelThey commonly fail from rough finishing at the factory. If you format every bit and surface check them, it will make the drives good. The chinese ssd's I have outlasted the branded junk I bought locally. The chinese drives don't have a kill switch that MS or other companies can activate.
Dont buy acus its trash just imagine u playing and bom blue screen what happ u lose all ur data
Heavy workloads like gaming are certainly not the best usecase.
Mine has been holding up though in regards to constant reads and writes.
120gb is not even a good scale noone wwnts that even for a os harddrive its too small
For my use case of getting the last bit of life out of old machines it is enough. A lot of people just don't need much storage (especially when they are also using the cloud). Windows takes like 40 to 60 GiB and a Linux install like 1 to 15 GiB. The last thing people come back to me for is the lack of space tbh.
If I never heard of the brand I would never buy one. I only stay with mainstream brands that have 4+ reviews and are the fastest I can buy.
Dram less ssd are garbage
All my chinese ssd's are dram-less. They play games and do normal pc things fine. Some of them are not so good for copying around large amount of data frequently. The 3d flash ones are fast.
@@fungames24 i had a apacer ssd it has worse than my old hdd
@@bekim137During copy, some of my chinese SSD's are slower than floppy. But, it doesn't matter because most of the time I don't copy anything. The 3d nand ones stay fast. Having fast flash is more important than having dram.
Apacer is a taiwanese brand that can't be bought from china.
Why are you comparing useless 128gb??
You need to test normal size that people buy these days, at least 1tb but preferably 2
I've seen 128GB plenty in use for variouse usecases. I currently maintain multiple servers that even use just 64GB SSDs as cache drives. Also my main usecase is older laptops that still use HDDs. Those often come with 60GB to 120GB HDDS.
@@dyXurChannel I have similar usecase I often end up swapping people's laptop HDDs with a 128gb SSD when they say it is "slow" and they really don't need the storage just basic computer usage and web browsing. I think it's totally fair to compare these 128gb drives I have a feeling they are one of the best selling
all trash , best SSD = kingspec and best m2 = goldenfire
No wonder this channel is dead. No actual testing on what matters.
No overview of the controllers or the NAND. No testing long writes. No bootup times. No endurance testing. Reliability. You know, the areas that actually matter and where these cheap drives fall very short compared to SSD's that cost more.
In what way is the channel dead?
But I agree I could improve the testing process, but something like endurance/reliability is hard to test. Like I could throw them into my NAS and use a cronjob do fill them up once a day, but this could take months if not even years to get the data.
@@dyXurChannel All that testing but reliability can be done quickly. Endurance testing is easy. Just get a shity test PC. Then have a program write to the drives 24/7 until they fail. Yeah, might take some time. But thats called quality content.
@@silvy7394 Yeah. To test indurance in that way could be done. Thanks for the help and feedback :).
I'll try to get something like that set up.
@@silvy7394 uh, how much you gonna pay the man to do all that? why don't you donate big chunk a cash to this channel first?
"No testing long writes."
If u very lucky they last 2 weeks
The ones I've been running nonstop since this video are still going strong (except the somnambulist)