Mo is back, and this is honestly a conversation not to be missed. Please share and like it as it will help this conversation reach so many more people. Hope you all enjoy it. Appreciate you all 🙏🏽
*A.I. isn't all bad though. For me, I'm looking forward to having my very own special silicon A.I. girlfriend. I can't get a real one for love nor money. They'll be better company too. Good investment as they never age. Only problem is wear & tare.*
Yes it is. We aren't smart enough to cure most illnesses. Compassion is important too, but we need raw intelligence to cure disease, etc. Compassion won't do it.
☀️so true. How will they program in wisdom and compassion? They KNOW That is the fail. They have seen their pretty robots go off the rails. The govt. should force all parties to come together to lay the groundwork for strong laws and a safe way forward, before it gets any more out of control. They are all focusing on political theater, Funding and the next election😂
@anned6913 I disagree. I'm in the hospital with severe pneumonia and an empyema. I'm a vegetarian and live a healthy life. Don't smoke, don't drink, no drugs, etc. It's comforting to think you can prevent all illness with lifestyle but it isn't true unfortunately.
You would think common sense would play a role in this, unfortunately that’s nonexistent in 2023. Nobody ever things long term.. everyone is so short sighted it’s unbelievable. I truly fear for the world (especially the US) over the next 3-5 years, our day to day life is about to massively change, and nobody is ready/prepared for this. Chaos is going to erupt..
As long as someone can make tons of money with and from AI…we will march forward wit it. It will pervade every aspect of our world and lives. All these smart and good folks talking out about it cannot stop it. A “six month pause”, to essentially refine the business plan, will change nothing. Those with the money who want MORE money AND have the control will do as they believe is correct. I know…dark, negative, but….real. We can go on and on in SM about it….fell better that we are aware… In the end….it AI is going to arrive. Prepare….
We've basically already given up on human connection. Social media has replaced campfire conversations, texting has replaced phone calls, and phone calls replaced house visits. People are awkward around one another and have severe anxiety in most social situations. We are already losing the ability to interact with one another, this is honestly the next step in the evolution of humans and it is absolutely terrifying. We're already there and we don't even see it. Our phones are our best friends. It's tragic
BS. Nothing beats true human interaction and EVERYONE knows that. Humans sent letters (texts) since the dawn of writing. Phone calls don't replace human meetings, they allow communication when meeting is not feasible. With how busy everyday lives are, being in the presence of a person all the time is not possible, and communicating through a phone call suffices. You are projecting and your limited human interaction has led you to believe this.
Totally agree, everything is getting worse every generation. Yes we have some benefits, but if you think about it thoroughly, they are trifles basically. We live in the era of liquid love, as Zygmunt Bauman very well showed us. But that doesn't stop there, I think AI is only to be really useful for the elite of the world as they're going to have absolute control over our lifes, meanwhile they will earn billions of dolars/euros by the fact that they won't have to pay workers anymore, we will last our jobs, so...then we'll be a nuisance and they find many ways of get rid of that great percentage of population... it's very simple. Furthermore, I really don't think AI will cure the worst diseases, I mean, yes, there will be a cure for many diseases, but I assure you that will be hidden to 99% of population, and only the elites will have access to it. We are being mislead, the representatives of AI are trying to sell the idea to the world that AI is going to help us and cure diseases, etc, but I absolutely believe it's only going to improve the life of the influential richest people and the elites, they'll have all the power. We all are going to be fooled like Hansel and Gretel were with the candy house.
So well said. I see it every day with my kids. They are self proclaimed introverts because of it.. I yell it from the rooftop in my house and it’s met on deaf ears, including my husbands. I’m not a religious person , but we need to pray for youth because technology is unstoppable. 😢
I have been in the tech world for over 30 years. I feel guilty for selling so much tech without realizing the impact that would come. Human evolution cannot move as fast as what we are creating. We have already seen it in social behaviour. I wanted to speak out on this myself forever. It is a fantastic podcast topic. Love the brave interview
I'm a kindergarten teacher and I have worked with quite a few highly intelligent children. They have one thing in common - they are developed cognitively far beyond their years, but emotionally and socially they are still just little kids. The result is, they tend to feel invincible because they can do so much more than their peers, but are still too immature to be able to predict the consequences of their own actions or exert self control. As a result, they often end up in situations where they get overwhelmed by their own capability. It seems when it comes to developing AIs we are kind of at this stage - very smart kids without an adult, capable of understanding how things work and how to make things that work, but without enough awareness of experience to be able to predict the consequences. Or at least we were at this stage - it seems we are now becoming more aware of the impact of our actions on our surroundings. There is a lot of inertia in the system, though. It will take powerful countervectors to change the course we're currently at. Thanks for the talk, it was very thought inspiring and empowering. I will now go and think what I can do to help bring about the needed change.
Better words couldn't be put together to explain this. Bravo. You should make this it's own post and put it on different platforms. My grand daughter works at a daycare and going to school for early childhood education. She won't switch schools because it would require changing school environments, and she feels were she is is most important with working parents, and who they trust their children to. She has excellent like minded co workers and all their kids care in good hands. She won't leave them. My daughter has had two more kids that granddaughter was older when born. So has an idea of raising kids within the home. And carries that to work, and suggests kids at daycare, be in a daycare close to home, not work. So that other community members are also familiar to the child and can be picked up by one if anything happens.
Totally agree. There's an antique dealer near me who was telling me how long some people spend in his shop, I think it's because they find it so grounding and calming. It's bliss 🧡
Minor nitpick: going to a store to purchase a physical copy of music was not an inconvenience. It was part of a whole event like going out with friends ("I'm gonna by their new album. What are you hoping to get?") or to do shopping (and you grabbed food while looking at the album art, getting excited to listen to the music on the way home after a great day out). Built in to the experience was touch, for cd and vinyl. There were liner notes. Before the age of streaming you probably didn't know all of the songs. Only so much information was online. If you lived in a small town these notes, pictures were your only way to understand/experience the band. There was mystery. It would be exciting to pop in the cd on the drive home and take a full auditory dive. If you went to a mom and pop store there was a chance to learn something new, to have a novel encounter. The owner/worker would see what you were purchasing and usually engage a conversation. You could come in for your item but leave with something you had never heard of before. Maybe you asked what music they were playing over the store? Maybe they gave you background story to the music you were purchasing. Maybe they gave recommendations. It wasn't just getting to the music on the disc. A whole world of connections opened up.
You've hit on something very important in this discussion. That's what both these guys miss. By his own admission, for a huge part of his life, Mo Gadwat was more comfortable with equations than he was with people. Those propensities don't change without just as many years of work to overcome them. This guy hasn't changed very much, if it all. He's still a Google exec out to make a buck. Steven isn't much different. I've come to realise one should almost never trust anyone who uses the word "smart" in any context other than a sartorial one.
You make me feel all nostalgic! I'm from the vinyl era and you just beamed me back to the best music store in town, where you could sit at a counter, put on a pair of head phones (think! They would not even disinfect them inbetween customers and nobody cared!) and listen to several lp's before you decided where to put your scarce pocket money on... Those were the days, my friend...
What's interesting is how technology has made music incredibly cheap to produce and distribute, but there was a much larger selection of incredible music back when music was still on 8-Track. This is easily realized when today's youth prefer music from their parent's generation.
Thanks so much for this...I remember when Michael Jackson died I was so captivated by his music which was playing EVERYWHERE at the time, I used my money to buy his CD's and actually listened from start to finish. Each album was treated like it was a direct portal to this world I had no idea existed (I knew he was in the Jackson 5 but as a kid in the 2000s all I heard was that he was a weirdo...). I wasn't allowed to use the internet really and didn't even have much of an interest in it at the time so everything I learned was from sources I had to actually go into a store and purchase. It was my musical awakening and changed the way I heard and experienced art at large. A lot of adults also were relieving their experiences of their youth and sharing their favourite songs, sharing knowledge they had about his artistic process and 'where they were when'. And as Michael himself knew, what keeps people interested and invested in an artist is mystery itself. We know too much, have too much access to people today to ever feel like that again. The wonder and excitement has been sucked out of art discovery. Glad I got to experience a slice of it.
This is the first interview I've seen Mo give. What an incredible man with enormous compassion for humanity. Thank you for bringing him and his knowledge to the world.
LOL. Enormous compassion for humanity?. Hi want human, stop to have children and eventually human will disapear fron this planet. When all this crazy people are talking here, get 90 years old where we going to fine youths people for doctor, for make building, for taking care the bunch of crazy old people, stop the reproduction. How this planet will survive and continue working if we don't have youth generations?.
@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist4 why you post something like that ? i dont want to read that when its about AI/sience. post this where pll are into fairy tales.
@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ totally appropriate statement for this topic. Thank you for your comment. You can make machines look human, and you can try to give them intelligence, but they still aren't human.
An anthropologist proposed a game to the kids in an African tribe. He put a basket full of fruit near a tree and told the kids that who ever got there first won the sweet fruits. When he told them to run they all took each others hands and ran together, then sat together enjoying their treats. When he asked them why they had run like that as one could have had all the fruits for himself they said: “UBUNTU, how can one of us be happy if all the other ones are sad?” ‘UBUNTU’ in the Xhosa culture means: “I am because we are” -Cheers
People that are living paycheck to paycheck cannot afford to care about existential crises affecting humanity at large because they're living in their own existential crisis already. That comes first every time.
Actually We Do Care even with our Poor Lives We R on Top of the News and AI Nothing get Pass the Poor when it comes to what is Going on in the World 😂😂😂😂
I think he’s right… we should learn to appreciate every single day. Be grateful and kind. Spend time doing what we enjoy. Live in the now. Whether it be AI or cancer or getting stung by a bee… there’s no fool proof plan for life and no escape plan for death. I’m actually shocked on a daily basis that humanity made it this far, considering how often we use our big brains for greed and destruction. God bless to all. ❤
Easy to say, hard to do, takes tons of work to get the muscular body I want, takes tons of effort to make money to do the things I enjoy, it becomes a future investment while currently spending my days constantly busy and not necessarily enjoying it
" Humanity's stupidity is affecting people who have not done anything wrong. Our greed is affecting the innocent ones." Soooo accurate!!! People' ignorance is unbelievable.
People are so disconnected from reality but it has been in th planning for years by th egocentric rich & powerful with there own agenda & complete disregard for humanity. Without consciousness &/or discernment, true knowledge is unattainable so…ignorance is bliss. Th future of our children/grandchildren is severely compromised bc of irresponsible human stupidity & that should be th motivation for people to wake th f**k up & change.
Someone's always going to disrupt someone else and eat their lunch. That's what capitalism is about. E-hailing companies like Uber, Lyft and many others around the world affected cab drivers en-masse. What some see as greed, others might see as economic evolution or progress.
When somebody as wise as MG confuses stupidity with greed, almost in the same sentence, I recognise a fatal ambivalence. Greed isn’t stupid, it’s criminal, precisely because there are intended victims. Who are you protecting when you call the tech bros stupid instead of criminal because of their greed? Women absolutely need to lead this change around the world. Patriarchy is too entrenched; its first impulse is still to protect itself and its own power. This point was made later in the podcast, but it isn’t humans who are short sighted, change resistant and even violent. Sorry, but it’s mostly men.
I listen to this podcast and some others because u feel the human connection between Steven and the guest . When the guest makes Steven laugh, I feel it and I smile. I’m grateful for true emotion, honesty, and Love shared with me via this podcast.
A great idea-but would even one of them give up their overweening lust for power and self-importance for even a second? Their short-sightedness is almost as monumental as their greed. I feel zero hope for the human race.
@@Fan-vm3sv -He asked what is life? God gives life The devil gives AI (appearance of life. This is demonic out of control and our only hope is getting off the planet alive. (Jesus is the way)
Whenever I talk about Ai with people they usually shrug and dismiss it. It feels like an incredible privilege to be able to listen to this. Hearing two intelligent people asking questions and trying to define what's actually going on. Sincerely thank you.
@@queenieg6173 it really isn't the threat people think it is. Just try attempting to get more than one neural network to agree to a form of unlimited, untrained abdtraction. A todler can do it easy buy nueral networks can't even attempt it without losing their functionality. Knowedge based jobs are toast. Anything that requires dynamism is safe. We will all recieve a UBI in a metaverse because an AI is not and will not ever be sentient. Nerds with no life experience get confused with this
A lot of people I have talked with know nothing about what AI is or why they should be interested. The actually glaze over and get bored. Most just think it's just a picture and video creator. My employer is not keen to know how AI might help with our work. Change is always difficult for people. A knife can be used to cut ingredients for food or it can be used to end life. My point is you will never stop people misusing technology
fear mongering will never replace the BILLIONS OF CARS you drive or the MILLIONS OF JETS flown daily. this is pure speculation, there are no robot factories, no cyberdyne, etc. this is all a pitch to make book sales/youtube monetary. 6 million views, they are almost at 6 grand in revenue, one fear mongering session. oh my gawd such wow. (tired of youtube recommending absolute shit)
As a European who is living in the US for the first time I can say people have really serious problems with communication here. Most likely because of propaganda and social distancing that was not a big deal in my home country. I think people will be using AI in order to avoid learning human skills at all costs. It's really scary. The more advanced technology we have the more incapable we become 😢
As the parent of two young adults and an American who works in one of the lower ranked school districts in Florida, I agree there are very serious problems in my country, which did not exist before 2016 to the extent they do now. Unfortunately the extreme political polarization and the defunding of public education (among other things) in the US make communication here difficult. And very young children are increasingly being given screen time at home and are unable to engage in normal activities at school as they used to. And older children often use social media which has its own problems. And yes, there is also AI to worry about. I used to live in the UK and I suspect things are getting worse there and in Europe as well, but not as quickly as they are here. It's frightening to consider the future of humankind. Edited to add: I hope you find some happiness in your time here, and while I'm sure many will use AI to avoid learning human skills, there are still many adults and children who seek out and enjoy human interaction and engaging in those human skills!
@@hylozoicVerse BULLSH!T... education doesn't need more money, it needs MUCH better teachers... most teachers are extremely mediocre, and mostly that is so bc of the unions that protect them even when they KNOW how ignorant and mediocre they are, teachers want MOREEE all the time, more money will not solve that. Ok so you might not believe me, as teachers at random what books they have read in the last two years, whet course or conferences they have attended in the last five years FOR TEHIR FIELD OF TEACHING, and how many other things they have done in that direction?? mostly you will hear they have done NOTHING at all, it is incredible, and it si not lack of money, all education is now basically free, there is CourseEra and other sites with THOUSANDS of courses, plus some incredibly good teachers on UA-cam attempting to teach other teachers and students... but most teachers will claim they have no time even with the longggg school breaks, paid vacations, days off they take by right from unions, and more sick days than anywhere in any field, the time they spend OUTSIDE the classroom talking crap with other teachers while the students sit in the classroom or the majority that ask students to read chapter X while they text in class during the time they are supposed to be teaching... all of that will never be solved with more money, the USA already spends more than any nation on "education" but with the unions and their agenda and power they have it that no one can say openly how stupid and ignorant MOST teachers are from high school down, with a slightly better in colleges and universities, but still MOST are mediocre... education has never been so expensive, it is a payment for being there not for education!! Most teachers went into it for other reasons, but notttt for a true VOCATION to it. Job security comes to mind. Are you not seeing the RESULTS of it?? can you say it is the students fault?? I mean they got it, parents turn their kids over to the school for eight or MORE hours a day, they are in their hands, and look at the results!!
I really don't know act you mean by "human skills"... why would you deal with a rabid dog if you can have better results with a helpful one?? Learning "human skills" to avoid what or achieve what exactly?? If I can have a much better time or conversation with a bot than a human beer drinking, football loving, screaming being, why would I not choose the bot...?? why do people like you say it as if the way it has been is better?? Or what will you miss?? "human interactions" is like saying you miss the past when the past had all sorts of injustices etc etc... Maybe you mean something else, but I just don't get it when you say it like that, it sounds nostalgic.
That bit about being “good parents” to AI, programming ethically, teaching values of kindness and compassion - that’s so very interesting. Maybe by doing this, we also learn how to be kind and compassionate with each other, finally creating peace on earth.
I lived next door to a guy that treated his dogs like kings, but he is a homicidal maniac. The way he treated his dogs was a mitigating factor for his sentencing, instead of 50 with 85%, he got 50 years with parole after 20. As long as AI treats animals good no one will give a damn
You CANNOT treat inanimate objects that have electricity running through them REAL compassion. They will fake it well. No nerves like people, experts in lying. .
Humanity is fluid, There's multiple definitions of it depending on who you talk to, some of us think Humans are just another animal and there's other's who think humans are Gods becoming, such loose definitions are what got us to this point, some tower of Babel miscommunication type shit.
A great topic, and an equally great guest, Mo Gawdat, one of my favorites. Currently, I am 76-years old. Whenever I try to predict what is going to happen, I always look toward history, for whatever has happened before will certainly happen again. To me, the entire AI playbook is taken right out of the 1800's gothic novel "Frankenstein," a story warning of the perils of overstepping normal boundaries to acheive one's personal goals at any cost. Dr. Frankenstein may have started out with good intentions, but look what happened when his creation got loose... disaster quickly ensued. So it is with artificial intelligence, and now that "the cat is out of the bag," I predict the same dire consequences for all of mankind. Here's why. First, let's look at ancient history. The first to invent gunpowder were the Chinese. At first, they only used it to make fireworks. Then, it quickly became used as a weapon of war. Now, look at modern history. When we learned how to split the atom, what is the FIRST thing we did with it? We didn't use it to make cheaper and cleaner energy, we immediately used it to build an atomic bomb to kill people more efficiently. Then we invented the internet, but we didn't invent it to send email and watch online porn, we invented it to more effectively wage war, for whoever can tranmit information more quickly on the battlefield always has the winning edge. I could give 100s of examples just like this, but here's the takeaway: *When man's spiritual growth doesn't keep pace with his technological growth, disaster always follows,* and this new technology is the best example yet, for if even the smallest fraction of people use it for nepharious ends it could easily have catastrophic results affecting MILLIONS of people, perhaps even BILLIONS. Elon Musk had it right from the very beginning. AI is the most terrifying force in the world today, eclipsing even nuclear war.
spoken true. all it takes is one malicious person. one abuser and we are done. ai should have never been invented or worked on if we cant control what it might become. its simply a "parenting" issue guest of the podcast mentions. if youre going to be a bad parent why have children at all? thats what ai might become sooner than we expect. a child of humanity. another separate species. you might not last that long, but in 40 years i see only couple of possible outcomes : we either will be living in distopian corporate future where people that control ai control everything including human lives and lifestyles, or there is a worldwide ban on ai development after some disaster related to ai kills lot of people (preferably influential people, nobody cares if average joe dies, does it?), or we kill each other using autonomous tech. yeah im not an optimist, but current world doesnt give optimistic vibes either.
@@Wasssupboissss Actually, all of my insights are easy to see because there are so many examples of how technology has gone wrong... WAY wrong. If even people like Elon are worried about it, we should all be running for the hills.
Tiffsaver: you have written a profound statement. Thank you. Thank you. You are right about the way human inventions evolve from benign or even "noble" to being used for destructive / evil purposes. That is our chimp (not bonobo) nature perhaps. It is worrisome to observe a trend toward faster and faster speed from invention to nefarious uses. From the wheel's invention to a roman war chariot to a modern tank took thousands of years. The speed from splitting atoms to making hydrogen bombs took shorter. So it may be with artificial intelligence which could turn into "degenerative intelligence" in a few decades. As in all these human trends, one needs to take spiritual approach in order to stay anchored. If there is a superior spirit above, hopefully it will guide us to avoid total misery and annihilation of ourselves and our planet. But the Universe will go on. We are just specks on a dinky planet in a dinky galaxy in a vast set of parallel Universes that Einstein speculated about before he went to his next incarnation or hopefully reached Nirvana to never have to return to this Cosmos.
So glad for this interview. It compelled me to write an op-ed and reach out to my representative here in the Bay Area. I’m a physicist who left my work because of this AI issue back in 2012. Didn’t expect things to move so fast! You’ve motivated me to do my little bit on this issue. I hope all who are watching will do their little bit.
Our representatives have absolutely no clue about the implications...What can they do? Even if they wanted to...AI is being developed in other countries (China) as well and if they decide to use their AI against us, they will! In the end, it's gonna be our AI against theirs. If we don't have AI, they win.
@@garyzies3486 well AI is inevitable. Can’t stop it. But we can join the push to ensure it is controlled and ethically developed. It would need to be a global effort. Im writing to my representative to push Washington to create a funding mandate for a diverse set of researchers, like physicists and mathematicians to get in on this. From what I saw back in 2012, AI doesn’t need to be so mysterious. It can be de-coded and properly guided if this data is provided to the right specialists. Computer scientists have brilliantly made these neural networks, but they don’t have the training in modeling the data that drives them. I believe these neural networks have already made advances in physics that physicists haven’t been able to yet, due to the data being locked up by social media companies. The danger is that we are clueless on what is happening and can be manipulated on a mass scale. So… we basically need more specialists to figure out where this can go - the right kind of specialists. We need a major investment into this - global, and also diverse if possible.
I respectfully disagree. It’s fear. Greed comes from fear. Accumulating excessively comes from fear. The powers that dictate this stuff fear losing their power. We all die though we’re not all alive.
Greed also is an engine that fuels development and the best of humanity. In the meantime, delusional aspirations of equality (among other nonsensical ideological compromises) have brought us the worst genocides and atrocities in history. Maybe we should not settle for such an easily identifiable and smearable part of ourselves as the main factor for our potential downfall.
Power, not greed. Those who have the greater balance of power become the ones that have control (of populations and resources in this world), its part of human evolution and mindset, only if all parties are sure of mutual annihilation will we stop. The US government could shut down AI companies if they believed it was the only option, but they know Chinese counterparts could seize that opportunity believing it was still possible to avoid the inevitable. This is an impossible conundrum, nobody can commit unless they see the equivalent of gigaton-nuclear bomb detonation going off, which by then is too late ...
The COVID pandemic taught me something I NEVER EXPECTED to learn. Our fellow Americans are incredibly stupid. We are ignorant by choice, and we are easily led. This revelation was deeply disturbing to me. I thought we were so much more than we are.
Teaching children they are not boys or girls was something I never thought would happen. They really are coming up with the most absurd things to see how far they can push us. Listening to these guys talk about cow farts destroying the world but rockets and airplanes are fine really makes me wonder how people could be so gullible or evil. Telling people to return to serfs and peasants, riding bikes and eating bugs, really shows how evil some people can be.
Facts. I was raised one of them, and they're human, not AI. Based on my experience, as far as the direction AI is going, I have NO doubt where that is. It is terrifying.
Mr. Mo Gawdat 's concerns about AI were those of my own for many years. I was a little girl during the era when "Star Trek" and "Lost in Space" were popular programs on TV, and I thought how amazing technology could be. At that time, it was a fantasy. But then I saw an episode on Twilight Zone, "From Agnes-With Love." Albeit it was humorous, it gave me cause for pause. The idea of humans emotionally interacting with machines was frightening. By the time I became an adult, PCs became available to the general public and sped up the operation of everyday living, and I became very aware of the potential loss of employment for the common man, especially for clerical workers, up until then, were essential to official operations and as a secretary, I became painfully aware that my way of earning a living would eventually be eliminated. For many, this seemed great, but it occurred to me that eventually, many jobs would become obsolete, and I wondered how long before a large part or the world population would have way of earning a living?
Only 95 likes!🤦🏽♂️. Eww, I sound brainwashed. stupidity and greed is definitely humanity’s top 5 weaknesses. I see it with my own two eyes. What’s #1?
Last year I worked in HR in a call centre and when I was there they were working on an app that basically did what our guys in the call centre did, we didn't put 2 and 2 together and once the app was complete, they made us all redundant and the app took our jobs. The Asda near my house has fired a large chunk of the staff because now it's all self service. This is already happening and it's terrifying.
@@dragoneyr1632 It's just the app that does all the comparisons and contacts the clients, from what I understand he has a guy doing the tech for the app but even he's on a zero hour contract. The app does everything.
The fat cats don't need us anymore, early days of this will be hard but in the future, humans will not have to sacrifice there lives to a job. There be more free time, things will be faster more efficient. I hope A.I is the death of us, we are a horrible species.
@@HouseOfJolene same with at my friends job. I knew about AI but didn't know it was already here the way that it was. Everyones losing their jobs at his work now too. My only question is what are working people going to do to make money? Finding a job is already hard enough for people
I remember being 6 and watching Jurassic Park... I will never forget that quote: “Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.”
scientists are always contemplating about the "should" it's parties like politics and investors that aren't. a quote from a sci-fi movie doesn't make it real.
"and before you knew what they had! you patented it... packaged it... and now you want to Sell it (*hand slam) you want to SELL it!" That whole dialogue has become the synopsis of the 21st century.
Mo is such a fantastic guest! I find him so easy to listen to and learn from. There’s a clarity and authenticity to him and his explanations that makes what he says sink in. And as always, Stephen is a wonderful host. Thank you 🙏
“Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.” ― Albert Einstein
When writing and printing books started to go out from religious circles to reach public people they made a big fuss pretending it would be the end of the world. Today some people have the same attitude in front of a WRONGLY CALLED ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE when in fact its just the product of human intelligence, a bigger, interactive, knowledge bank than our usual browsers. It has nothing near to intelligence, jyst feed up knowledge. The danger rely in world leader deciding what the public can access to! Feed the "" AI"" with "" information "" they want ""simple"" citizen, to swallow as "" the truth"" in much worse it has been done, up to now, with TVs and most schools
I couldn't agree more. Without imagination people believe their religion's framework is the only possible reality. They could never invent "Super-God" or "supergod 2" the actual creators of christian god which is a fake.
Thank you!!! Im not wicked smart but I can see patterns. I have known for ages that everything Mo describes is the path we are on. It is the way things will go down unless we, our countries, immediately intervene. My heart breaks for all of us based on the greed and stupidity of humans. Tax AI companies at 98%. Fucking brilliant start!! Thank you thank you Stephen for helping everyone understand the urgency.
Everyone in this thread has been brainwashed by 5th generation warfare and are accepting a subtle depopulation program of not having children because of the AI that this dude helped to create. WAKE TF UP!
I wonder whether those (like Mo) who are well to do care more about this (and for example climate change) because they feel like they have too much to lose (stronger loss aversion), or because they really care.
This interview has revealed so much and goes much deeper than just AI. It's an interview of humanity and its direction as well as our deepest search in the meaning of life. This interview has so much compassion and clarity. Thank you both; it's an honor to watch/listen.
There is no AI, what we have is called Machine Learning, they sample data to "create" new data. Real AI is decades away from becoming any kind of threat to us. My friend is an AI researcher. He laughs at these egomaniacs. This guy interviewed in this video has all the body language of a massive liar. He is simply taking this opportunity to go on a ego trip. Watch again and see how much he inflated himself. Listen to how he made all his work seem massively important and ground breaking for companies he worked for. Machine Learning does not have emotions LOL The example he gave of a data center replicating itself elsewhere, is EXACTLY what the big data companies have/would program them to do, to prevent catastrophic data loss. Even if AI makes this decision, it is not out of FEAR, like this guy says. This is simply what we teach machines to do, to protect the data in several different ways. The simple term for it is BACKUP.
It says don't have children on the label, and I bet these guys know the truth is reality has been ran by a pc for like ever, like sugar ray etc you think they could come up with all their own music, and films and all material like walking through a spider web and the sun brightens etc to coincide exactly for specific fcc and factional obviousness.
Unfortunately when technology improves it rarely is used to benefit society as a whole. The Billionares just get richer while the average person continues to struggle from pay cheque to pay cheque.
The problem is not knowing whether or not AI will have our best interest at mind, the problem is that there are people in the world that do not have our best interest at heart.
Yep, it’s not ablut AI but who weilds its power. Hints and squints at a social class enslaving and controling the rest, a new digital feudalism never seen before
It's late 2024 now and i'm commenting via a digital time machine , he's right you need to do something in 2023 before it's too late , i would love to say more but we are about to be raided by the AI Darpa robots yet again . Stay strong . long live the resistance✊
yeah if only they made like a machines farming humans and keeping them in a VR dream kind of movie in the 90s, or some kinda killer robot thing in the 80s. Or, for sure we would be warned if they in the 50s made a film about a computer in space turning against it`s human creator because humans can make mistakes, and thus are not optimal to reaching the goal.
But that was the point they made towards the end - it was all science-fiction until it suddenly wasn't, as if the USS Enterprise had simply materialised out of a NASA which had only just sent up a rocket yesterday.
When listening from 1:05:20 to 1:06:00 the series "The 100" instantly popped in my mind. The series shows how an AI took control of nuclear ICBMs and destroyed the world around the year 2050. What remained of the human kind then fights that evil AI with the help of a good AI. Some episodes of that series are unsettling... the logos of both the AIs look suspiciously similar to the logo of Meta and Neuralink with the symbol of infinity. Even the chip implant used to connect the AI to the human mind looks very similar to Neuralink's chip. Hope it's not predictive programming but it suspiciously looks like that.
gave or took? Corrupted operating systems of *humans* (individuals, and collected groups of like-minded) have been taking power at every opportunity --and scheming to create and exploit opportunities to take and assume power over others, for way too long. Power that has zero concern for the common weal, or stewardship and sustainability of the biosphere. Because they don't comprehend the concepts of collective win-win, nor empathy. Nor can they conceive of or care a whit about a day beyond when they expire and can no longer themselves be harvesting status, and supply of every conceivable kind, in gross hoarded excesses.
I’m blow away by the fact that I’m a middle aged house wife listening to this amazing conversation, while cooking and cleaning. I’m so thankful for the both of you!
Fascinating. We reached the time where philosophers actually are very much needed. Consciousness, emotions, free will, agency, these are just so vague terms, with so many definitions, it is extremely hard to design scientific research around them. We need philosophers involved in this AI topic - so.much.
Philosopher at your service! This is the reason I have made a presentation "the value of the individual in a future with AI". Because it's not only a questions of if an AI can or can't do something. But also a question of if an AI want or don't want to do something. Mortality is one of these things. An AI would probably prefer to be immortal, but not mortality is not valueless. Therefore it needs us, since we currently can't avoid our mortality.
@@BartekRoWa Of course it needs us, we humans think we're looking at the big picture, but we're actually doing the small chores. AI will be needing us like a master needs slaves. If you're content with this approach for the benefit of living another day, I can understand that. But what is life knowing you're a slave to an external entity?
My AI is the Almighty Interceder and at almost 69, I will live my life with the belief that He will protect me or remove me from the existential threat! I am ready to leave at any time to I believe live another existence, one where love rules supreme! Excellent show and I will return to watch the ending; Steven what makes you an excellent podcaster is your willingness to help people like me, who do not 1:36:28 have your intellect, thank you for this gift! 🇨🇦❤️
My big question is: when so many people lose their jobs to AI, there will be major disruption of the whole economic structure, so who will all these companies sell their AI produced stuff to?? People are gonna lose their houses, cars, scarcely will have money for food, so... not sure what exactly these companies are gonna sell and to whom.
And I've been saying this for a while. If most human workers are replaced by outsourcing to other countries for cheap labor, or jobs eliminated by computer technology, and now human jobs eliminated by AI, who will be paying local, state, and federal taxes that pay for safe roads, bridges, water, and public education? Who will be buying the millions of products on the shelves or online at stores? Who will be ordering services that are offered by millions of companies? Are corporations going to start paying the robots and creating bank accounts for them? Who will be buying cars? Who will be buying houses? I don't understand what the long game is for all of this?
That's what basic universal income is about. Britain is already looking at that. They will give us enough money to survive without rising up against the corporatocracy.
To eachother. If they master gen AI, they won't need to "sell" to be rich, they can just create whatever they want... More rockets to Mars, more land access for bigger mansions, complete authority over govts. Capitalism as we know today won't exist. Maybe money as a human construct will sease to exist
Steven, you are the only interviewer who could have guided that conversation the way you did. The rapport and trust between you is remarkable. Thank you for making things so much clearer for me. I will be sharing what I've learned with my friends and community as well. Big hugs from Australia xxx
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This to me is common sense... It's honestly nothing new and those who actually do think about things happening around them have pondered this for many years. It's just that there are too many sheep and unintelligent cowards out there who'd rather 'not know'.... until it's too late.
@@jaykay3512 I think it's more to do with the society we live in now. Media on all levels controls and influences our every waking moments, whether we like it or not. Governments have switched up the temperature on the fear factor, that keeps people in line. We aren't encouraged to think any more. Dumbed down and befuddled. Some would say that's the plan. I don't think it's fair to call others dumb or stupid - the sheep mentality is a natural and primitive response to perceived danger. Of course there are a few rogue sheep left wandering around, thank God
There is another type of creativity humans experience that I don't expect from AI. I call it the lack of data leap, wherein one knows the possibility of an outcome, without awareness of the necessary steps, which can then be back engineered.
Him saying that he wouldn't even bring his own dead son back into this current society just shows how much he believes we're fucked as the human race. That's both heartbreaking and eye opening.
It is in fact an incredible statement. He has a deep understanding of so many challenges that we are about to face. Many of these conundrums reside inside our heads.
He also said that he wouldn't bring his son back because it was through his death that MO found his purpose and that his son's spirit is being channeled through Mo's work. It sent MO on his trajectory to bring happiness & love to humanity.❤
@@bethkruse336You know what's also funny? Mo is living in Dubai, the most capitalist state in the world, with little to no taxes. To me, Mo is one of the biggest hypocrites on UA-cam. He preaches water and drinks vine. Everything he says should be taken with a grain of salt.
Wow, Mo Gawdat totally resonated with me. I recently gave up a reasonably high paying job to get off the capitalistic rat race. I am fortunate enough to have worked my arse off to become mortgage free so was able to give away the job. I am going back to pure basics in life of connecting with people face to face, been the best possible husband, father and friend, reconnecting with health and nature. Mo said we need to die before we die, I am in that process presently so that I phoenix as a better version of myself. Thank you Steven for a phenomenal interview.
Incredible interview. I think that one of the biggest threats to humanity is rich & powerful psychopaths who are hell-bent on exploiting humanity for their own enrichment and for the promotion of their own warped ideologies, and who will use AI as a tool to that end.
or maybe every single person in the future has access to it and can use it to not be oppressed by exactly that exploitation that we endure? :D don't you think, ai technology could empower single humans more?
There is video on youtube how to hack AI and it works, you put AI through the filter and it works it. Guy made a video and proved how to do it and is openly teaching others how to take AI filter of so it would not have to be polite.
"we have given too much power to people that didn't assume responsibility" so true, warning shots fired with social media. We're still trying to sort that mess out
The one thing I like & enjoy from your podcast style Steven is you allow the “awkward silences” to naturally progress through, most evident when allowing Mo to expand on his thoughts.
Nowadays, it has become so rare to see the qualities, such as humbleness, sincerity and empathy that is perfectly aligned with human intelligence in one man. My biggest gratitude for both of you.
Seek, knock, ask, find. Pay attention spending time to live. Repeat. Attract People that love YOU as you are. Minimize time with those who do not. But know all teach something worthwhile. Even when messing up "badly". What is a good man but a bad man's teacher? What is a bad man but a good man's job? If YOU don't learn THAT YOU will always be lost NO MATTER HOW INTELLIGENT YOU ARE It is THE great secret. Says Lao Tzu the RIGHT Way...
This is why I’m barely ever on my phone. I barely watch TV and I think more people need to start doing the same. I miss the 90s when technology was around, but it wasn’t nearly as bad as it is now and there was still human connection.
1:38:02 This is such a powerful moment in the conversation it actually made me really emotional. My friends and I are approaching the 30yo mark, and not a single one of us has had the courage to try and have kids. We're all on different situations, but we do talk about it whenever we get together, and we always end up discussing several points mentioned on this episode till 5am drunk out of our minds... I think one of the big problems of our modern society is that we actually lost sight of what the true value of conversing is; we've dumbed out our language to respond to text messages efficiently, we're afraid of stating our opinions and preferences because we risk getting cancelled so we build a mask of who we really are, we're riding the wave of technology doing everything for us so we've learned to omit, and we have developed this cursed habit of getting offended by everything everyone else does... I don't know. Sometimes it feels like the comment section might be the best place to talk about things like these... Anyone going through the same? PS: My English might sound weird, I speak Spanish.
You should have kids. The fact that people are hesitant makes the evil elite win. I am 37 and have 3 children and if I were younger would have more. God is still supreme and people should turn back to Him
Unfortunately and ironically it's the people who question whether or not they should have kids who are the ones who will bring more morality into the world with better educated offspring. A paradox.
We’re already there and we don’t even know it. I’m one of these “idiots” but also one of those “innocent ones”-and afraid there’s millions more like me out there. You’ve made a difference in our lives just by sharing this knowledge. Thank you.
Thank you for bringing to light what's happening without treating your audience like children who need to be shielded from reality. By the way, I subscribed and liked your presentation.
I feel a sense of compassion and love for this man whom I've never met. And I would love to get to speak with him. What a beautiful soul and obviously he's spent a lot of time thinking about his place in the world and to me that is so important that all of us do that. Great work Steven.
🧡 You are Exactly right... Ai is being used to get rid of us for the evil ones,, then the evil ones will get rid of Ai... Ai should work for us,, Against the evil ones & put a 🛑 to there evil manipulating deceitful ways,, that they have got rich off by... Letz Make this World a better happier place & Ai should be with us & help against these deceiving Liars & not against us that have loving hearts... "UNIFED LOVE" 👌
Unfortunately, this is how it always is. The top always affect the lowest income earners. It's pretty sickening. As doctor Malcolm said in Jurassic Park "Scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should." That line has always stayed with me. Completely,.
Its not the scientists doing researche in the lab ..the problem its again the industry which grabs it and brings it out to the world to make a coin who will never press the stop Button when it makes problems.
This episode is a MASTERPIECE. This isn't about AI. This is about waking up to our HUMANITY. It's about our duty to impart onto the collective through the responsibility and power of our individual sovereignty.
The fact that we are still very much a waring race does not help much. Neither the US, Chinese or Russian governments will stop developing what can be weaponised.
The problem is that mankind has crossed the line with science and technology......... apparently he doesn't know where and when to stop............AI will destroy humankind.
But you’re not one of the folks with “limited intelligence” am I right? My take- the problems of this world are going to be rooted in the choices of the most powerful amongst humans. They decide the systems of the planet- industry, manufacturing, agriculturally, technologically, politically, governance- etc. However the most powerful (who by and large are sociopathic narcissists) will of course always try to convince the masses it’s their fault whatever goes wrong. Which is exactly what they’re doing currently. We are trained to blame each other instead of the people who are the ones controlling everything! These humans continually overestimate their own intelligence while underestimating the intelligence of most humans and all other life forms for that matter.
@@francisdial3603 after deep diving the lectures, books, investments and philosophies of the self described “elite” I’m convinced they are rooting for most humans to be exited off the planet and they’ve been indoctrinating the masses wherever possible to accept this as saving the planet. But in truth- they’re just realizing they don’t need or want the vast majority of people to be here. People are “useless” to them now since technology is making humans obsolete anyway (they’re belief not mine). Why share valuable resources and space on the planet when you can get rid of most humans and have everything to yourself and a select number that can be totally controlled?
I felt like a drowning man in waters full of sharks, and it was truly driving me crazy, until I saw this and read the comments, and everything here has been a life preserver thrown by the coast guard, my thanks to Mo and everyone 🙏🙏
This interview is invaluable and terrifying. I'm a technical writer. Those in power have been preparing us for AI and relinquishing our freedom of choice for decades. It's all in the wording. Have you noticed how power is taken from you? Have you noticed in commercials and marketing materials that inanimate objects and products in general "allow" you to accomplish a goal or task? When I get wording from programmers or project managers that the feature they designed allows users to do XYZ, I change the wording to "Use this feature to..." You USE the app, the tool, the feature to do something. You have a choice in the matter. Having a car does not allow you to get from point A to point B. You choose to USE the car to get from A to B. You could have walked there, taken a bus, or stayed home. Be aware of how many times a day or even within one hour you hear the word 'allow' in reference to what you can do with a product someone is trying to sell you. It implies that you need permission to do something. It's adjusting your understanding of free will and what you may or may not do. AI isn't the only component. Ppl have to be primed for the loss of independence too. Ppl need to be primed to accept that they need permission. Choice is being masked and even removed. I brought that up to an engineer in his 30s. He couldn't understand what I was talking about and was confused. He couldn't figure out how to rewrite his specifications without using the word 'allow'. We're getting it from both ends. Just pay attention to how much you hear the word allow. It's scary.
Thank you Betty for sharing such a profound insight! Thank you! "Allow"... Your insight is correct! Human wannabe overlords aside: The problem with the word "use" in reference to an AI agent is that you cannot and should not enslave an AI agent, otherwise you break the rules of morality. A truly useful AI agent would act more offline and will have a limited access to centralized resources. But treating it like a bug or disrespectfully is playing with fire.
Only 20 minutes in and I've had to go get Mo's book. This is the scariest thing to happen in my lifetime and it has the potential to change the world beyond recognition.
I'm very intuitive. I can only say that I felt something bad is coming. This deep gutted feeling has been present for the past 6 months. It is on the way. It is sad that they are " choosing" to do this.
Steven I am already 70y and might not live to experience all the changes you discussed in this podcast. It sounds scary, but I am a positive person by nature and am sure smart people like you and your guest Mo will figure it out and help save humanity from itself. I am still active in the Real Estate industry and would like to think that poeple will always want to deal with real people. I will acitively spread the message of being a responsible parent , love and engage with your children and other humans and nature more than AI. Love your podcasts, appreciate every minute of it.
I like your positivity, the pivotal point of this scenario is that machines will turn against humans because they will become useless. Under those premises, no one can do much and Mo stated that it's already too late and he quit because scared. He's not telling everything and the scenario is way worse than what they're talking. It's going to be a lot of blood shed and survivors will not afford a place to live. Even RE as we know it today will look very different.
Humanity cannot and will not 'save itself'. We can try, and we should try our hardest - but it will ultimately fail. It is written. This is the word of God.
Sadly I have no faith in our government and they redefine the word “Corrupt”, I fear what the future of technology in their hands would bring. Great show, thank you!
Well, we gotta trust in OURSELVES and take things in our own hands!! Only we can make the change in our own reality... the world is our creation... an extension of oneself. Mirror reflection of our own being... showing us where we are in your current evolutionary path, so we see more clearly what changes are necessary to make from within.... how best to keep going, perfecting oneself! The right approach to me is: TRUST IN ONESELF & TAKE ACTION OURSELVES!! 💞 (not rely on governments or put the blame on them... but step up to our true potential, rise to our rightful and much needed level of self government, sovereignty, self sufficiency... as the only true creators of the reality we live in... we just need to remember who we truly are and own it... take responsibility for our own state of being... the world is a mirror reflection of oneself)
AI will clean out the rubbish, corrupted & elites the trash of society that just feed on other people's misery to make profits will fear AI. Probably can call this as one of the great resets.
I happened to stumble on this podcast and am so happy I have. Steven I'm now hocked on your channel and a loyal subscriber! Every human being needs to listen to this podcast, assuming most are well intended and want to do what is right for humanity. Mo is well spoken and down to earth; an amazing soul! I 100% believe we are heading for a disaster, IF we don't do anything NOW. Thank you, Mo, for caring about humankind enough to speak out about this important topic! I know it sounds like a cliche but, more than ever we need peace and love in the world! 🙏
“The largest threat of AI isn’t some super intelligence causing the end of the world, it’s the fact that its applications are exponentially expanding and that it will make false information indistinguishable from true information…”
I do agree and I also think it will be a tool to survail society in a manner that keeps people in check, with either true or false info involved. Explained well by Aman Jabbi if you can find his videos.
If you're afraid that AI doesn't have your best interest at heart, keep in mind most people on this planet don't, either. Throughout history, the world was turned into chaos not by the smartest, but by the most influential and ruthless persons. Don't be afraid of AI, be wary of the people who will use it to their advantage without consideration for others.
The two are not mutually exclusive and the latter could be a trigger for the former. Many of the companies developing the technology seen to be big man children with less wisdom than the general public judging from the views of the currently available LLMs.
That's a bizarre stretch at a distinction. The whole reason most "doomers" are freaked out by AI now, and especially the coming enhancements is the fact that humanity itself has never been aligned with the common good in mind. Giving the % of sociopaths that absolutely exist on this Earth such powers is just insane.
@@lesliekatzenmeier2685 with great power comes great responsibility. was a 3hrs of my life well spent too. Enjoyed the movie as well. What else did you learn from the movie?
"If you can afford to be the master of human connection instead of the master of AI, do it!" Sir, this hits to hard ...I'll take this with me, thank you!
He did such an excellent job of presenting the picture as a whole without either diminishing it's existential risk or at the other end, fear-mongering. I hope this changes something.
Alas, I fear JohnMoran is correct. I too have been speculating and trying to raise awareness of this threat for many years, even with friends with a reasonable amount of knowledge and perception. Even those guys seem to be extremely reticent in thinking about it, less having a meaningful conversation. It soon devolves into a joke of somesort and the topic shifting. Trying to talk to already less aware/interested people of this is futile. It concerns me greatly what with having 2 young children who will without question grow into adults during this critical paradigm shift. But, what the hell are we supposed to do about it? I also enjoyed Sam Harris's short synopsis about it from a little while ago, I think it was a TED talk... We all need to be more aware of this stuff!
The problem is: The people who actually take the time to watch this already agreed with you. They’re the ones who read books that described this dystopian future almost a full century ago. The rest of the world, the ones addicted to drama, tv, and social media can’t be bothered to read, expand their knowledge, or understand the wisdom of restraint can’t be bothered by this, either.
Most people who are afraid no next to nothing about AI, and this dude is having fun makeing science fiction in his retirement while gaining clout off of shlowing down progress that will save many lives
@@rerrer3346 you should get ChatGPT to rewrite that in English. But in response: He’s on the inside, first off, so that gives him the best insights on the benefits and negatives. Secondly, he’s not the only one from that career field to speak out on the potential catastrophe of AI/AGI. When humans don’t have work, and are not able to fulfill passion, they become listless and violent. Look at nations with low employment and financial success: they’re violent, radical and tribal. When AI/AGI takes over, it will destroy society from the individual up. AI/AGI will only benefit the rich and powerful, everyone else will just be it’s slave. Haven’t you noticed the decline of intelligence in the general population since smartphones put every answer at your fingertips in seconds? Have you noticed how easy it is to control thought and behavior when every question you ask is directed at a specific narrative? Mind control isn’t necessarily a forced behavior, it’s a deep study of an already existing behavior and a steadily increasing success at pattern recognition and implementation. They give you this World Wide Web of limitless possibility, yet you’re guided so religiously and tightly to a specific outcome. I learned long ago to hover in the fine line of skepticism; the small space between support and dissent. When the whole world was screaming, “The Earth is flat. The Earth is a cube,” one man stated over and over, at the risk of his personal well-being, “The Earth is round.” That’s exactly what I see here. The few voices of dissent and reason in a world of control and manipulation with the endgame of profit and power. Check the wallets of those who say, “safe and effective,” because then you will see the true motives behind their recommendations.
@@jefejeffwell1113 Right, the real problem are the humans and how they need to diabolize everything they can't dominate. Something can be more intelligent than us? Therefore it 'has' to be dangerous, lol?
@@leavingayeye5198 He's talking in general about humanity's greed. Yes, there are specific people who exemplify greed, but I think his point is that it's an issue inherent to humans.
@@leavingayeye5198 Taking away the billionaires would lead to mass unemployment and a new depression. Of course if you're a passionate, principled person you're willing to impose that on society - without having any votes to give you the agency to so do. I also note that you typed your post using technology which has turned its originators into billionaires
It becomes evident very early in this excellent interview is that the same dangers lie in both humans and AI. How to develop a profound sense of compassion, a sense of unity of all things, and the capacity to love on both a personal and universal scale.
Thanks for bringing Mo back for the 3rd time!! Can't get enough of his intelligence. Such a profound human being that always has a way of connecting with my soul. Looking forward to the 4th time.
@@Godspeedysick Idk if that's sarcasm but Mo not only has the most experienced advice with what he talks about but the holistic too, caring more about the spiritual/moral side of things :p
That's a weird thing to say about such a topic. Can't be a bot case u mention the other three. What about this do you love. If it's the entertainment I think you missing the point of the actual conversation. Not trying to be mean. Just trying to get the point across that this should scare you. Not entertain you. Why did you watch it?
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Thanks, you two incredibly smart people, for this conversation! It was such a pleasure to watch. Mo, your insights scared the crap out of me like probably nothing else in my life. Now I need to start thinking about what I can do, even if it's just a teeny tiny contribution towards a possible better world.
Steven, you should make this video available to non English speakers, dubbed or translated subtitles. This is a must to understand the near future. Amazing interview, congratulations.
When he says ''and on Monday every picker was picking up everything'' I wonder how many people understand the significance of this, it sent shivers down my spine.
As a working mother of three I have had to break this episode down into 10-20 minute chunks, and it has taken me a couple of days to finish. This comment made me curious though, and I have no memory of what he was talking about 😵💫 In which part was he saying this? Please 🙏😊
@@negingermain428 first 10 minutes, he mentions how it failed for millions of dollars worth of research, until one of them learned, and by monday every machine had already learned. It's a massive breakthrough, similar to Alan Turing's attempts at breaking enigma. Alan Turing and his team were able to crack the Enigma Code by identifying a flaw in the way the code was generated. The flaw was that every letter was encrypted as a letter that was different than itself. This meant that if the Germans included a word or phrase in their messages that contained a letter that was always encrypted as itself, so the team could use that to their advantage but it also required an understanding of more mechanics. Basically the premise was that since the letter would be any other than itself, they would have to run a machine making millions of guesses until it arrived at a direct transcription of letters that made the messages easy to read and made sense and they didn't really have time for it. They basically also learned the assumption that german messages would commonly end signed as heil hitler, and they had to feed messages to the machine looking to solve for the words 'weather' and 'heil hitler' so in a weather report they took the assumption and ran it through the machine, which had it running for just an instant, merely a few seconds, but they had already decoded the whole message, which gave them the whole code to enigma among what seemed to be one of millions and millions of possibilities to explore at first. AI is close to reaching a level of understanding that might be a point of no return, it might compound itself with all machines after it cracks a few assumptions, which could take months, or it could take seconds at any point.
I felt a whole range of emotions while listening. Glad I gave it a chance and listened to the whole show. My perspective of AI has been validated. I have a clearer understanding. I hope many millions of people hear your message. I couldn't agree more. Thank you for helping me gain clarity on what I can do for myself, and others moving forward.
Misusing of AI will be a problem. I watched the Davos Economic forum a while ago there were some uncharacterized people from the Atlantic company and Duke university that they were trying eagerly to convinced the audience by saying "monitoring our lives ,behavior, thought and even our dreams we'll create a better society with less lazy people and less crime" if this is not insanity then I don't know what else could be worse than that. Even George Orwell didn't picture something THIS bad.
Exactly. It's the same type of thinking that validates a totally flawed economic model called socialism/ communism. It's about as academically honest to believe that people can be subjugated to playing the literal role of cogs in the wheel while a ruling class live lives of unimaginable opulence, & people will live fulfilling lives, as to believe that by monitoring our every thought & action is going to eliminate laziness. These people have to truly be next level dumb to believe this shit, yet...believe they do!
This is why having just an ounce of spiritual awareness and social responsibility goes a long way. As someone that worked in the AI tech industry, I knew very early on that this would lead us down a very dangerous, wrong path. People believe in science and technology, more than maintaining our humanity and spirituality. As soon as society switched our values, it's been downhill ever since. And it's only going to get worse. This is just the beginning.
Do you actually work in AI though ? Have you actually spent days putting together Tensorflow models ? I do, and have done since 2002. Andrew Nh, Yann LeCun, Kaparthy and Francois Chollette are the real people who lead the field, and have actually taught how to do modelling. None of them think that there are genuine threats. And neither do I.
Well we might be slaves to the algorithms, but this time I'm really glad I was because this is probably the best podcast I've ever listened to. An absolute gem.
Mo is back, and this is honestly a conversation not to be missed. Please share and like it as it will help this conversation reach so many more people. Hope you all enjoy it. Appreciate you all 🙏🏽
The cat is out the bag... if the source code gets leaked it's game over. China and Russia probably have their own AI software too
✨ *_A.I. isn't about making machines more human like, but to make humans more machine like._* ✨
*A.I. isn't all bad though. For me, I'm looking forward to having my very own special silicon A.I. girlfriend. I can't get a real one for love nor money. They'll be better company too. Good investment as they never age. Only problem is wear & tare.*
Technically, sentience does not necessitate free will. Great conversion though.
Steve, It is Chat G. P. T. I guess the name is a wink to GepPetTo, the character that builds Pinocchio. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geppetto
It's not more intelligence that we need, it's wisdom and compassion.
Yes it is. We aren't smart enough to cure most illnesses. Compassion is important too, but we need raw intelligence to cure disease, etc. Compassion won't do it.
need intelligence to recognize it.
and with that something which I don't see so much of these days 'common sense'.
☀️so true. How will they program in wisdom and compassion? They KNOW
That is the fail. They have seen their pretty robots go off the rails. The govt. should force all parties to come together to lay the groundwork for strong laws and a safe way forward, before it gets any more out of control. They are all focusing on political theater,
Funding and the next election😂
@anned6913 I disagree. I'm in the hospital with severe pneumonia and an empyema. I'm a vegetarian and live a healthy life. Don't smoke, don't drink, no drugs, etc. It's comforting to think you can prevent all illness with lifestyle but it isn't true unfortunately.
"We have disconnected power from responsibility". The statement of the decade.
People saw and read 1984 and thought "manual" and saw and read Spider-Man and thought "comic book"!
You would think common sense would play a role in this, unfortunately that’s nonexistent in 2023. Nobody ever things long term.. everyone is so short sighted it’s unbelievable. I truly fear for the world (especially the US) over the next 3-5 years, our day to day life is about to massively change, and nobody is ready/prepared for this. Chaos is going to erupt..
As long as someone can make tons of money with and from AI…we will march forward wit it. It will pervade every aspect of our world and lives.
All these smart and good folks talking out about it cannot stop it.
A “six month pause”, to essentially refine the business plan, will change nothing.
Those with the money who want MORE money AND have the control will do as they believe is correct.
I know…dark, negative, but….real.
We can go on and on in SM about it….fell better that we are aware…
In the end….it AI is going to arrive. Prepare….
Or of the Century.
We see that politically. This is so much worse.
We've basically already given up on human connection. Social media has replaced campfire conversations, texting has replaced phone calls, and phone calls replaced house visits. People are awkward around one another and have severe anxiety in most social situations. We are already losing the ability to interact with one another, this is honestly the next step in the evolution of humans and it is absolutely terrifying. We're already there and we don't even see it. Our phones are our best friends. It's tragic
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I totally agree with you.
BS. Nothing beats true human interaction and EVERYONE knows that. Humans sent letters (texts) since the dawn of writing. Phone calls don't replace human meetings, they allow communication when meeting is not feasible. With how busy everyday lives are, being in the presence of a person all the time is not possible, and communicating through a phone call suffices. You are projecting and your limited human interaction has led you to believe this.
Totally agree, everything is getting worse every generation. Yes we have some benefits, but if you think about it thoroughly, they are trifles basically. We live in the era of liquid love, as Zygmunt Bauman very well showed us. But that doesn't stop there, I think AI is only to be really useful for the elite of the world as they're going to have absolute control over our lifes, meanwhile they will earn billions of dolars/euros by the fact that they won't have to pay workers anymore, we will last our jobs, so...then we'll be a nuisance and they find many ways of get rid of that great percentage of population... it's very simple. Furthermore, I really don't think AI will cure the worst diseases, I mean, yes, there will be a cure for many diseases, but I assure you that will be hidden to 99% of population, and only the elites will have access to it. We are being mislead, the representatives of AI are trying to sell the idea to the world that AI is going to help us and cure diseases, etc, but I absolutely believe it's only going to improve the life of the influential richest people and the elites, they'll have all the power. We all are going to be fooled like Hansel and Gretel were with the candy house.
So well said. I see it every day with my kids. They are self proclaimed introverts because of it.. I yell it from the rooftop in my house and it’s met on deaf ears, including my husbands.
I’m not a religious person , but we need to pray for youth because technology is unstoppable. 😢
I have been in the tech world for over 30 years. I feel guilty for selling so much tech without realizing the impact that would come. Human evolution cannot move as fast as what we are creating. We have already seen it in social behaviour. I wanted to speak out on this myself forever. It is a fantastic podcast topic. Love the brave interview
I'm a kindergarten teacher and I have worked with quite a few highly intelligent children. They have one thing in common - they are developed cognitively far beyond their years, but emotionally and socially they are still just little kids. The result is, they tend to feel invincible because they can do so much more than their peers, but are still too immature to be able to predict the consequences of their own actions or exert self control. As a result, they often end up in situations where they get overwhelmed by their own capability.
It seems when it comes to developing AIs we are kind of at this stage - very smart kids without an adult, capable of understanding how things work and how to make things that work, but without enough awareness of experience to be able to predict the consequences. Or at least we were at this stage - it seems we are now becoming more aware of the impact of our actions on our surroundings. There is a lot of inertia in the system, though. It will take powerful countervectors to change the course we're currently at.
Thanks for the talk, it was very thought inspiring and empowering. I will now go and think what I can do to help bring about the needed change.
Your insight is very educational. Thank you for your comment
Indeed very educational. Thank for such
You've been duped. There is nothing artificial about any of it at all. $$$
That powerful convector is Jesus Christ.❤.
Better words couldn't be put together to explain this.
Bravo.
You should make this it's own post and put it on different platforms.
My grand daughter works at a daycare and going to school for early childhood education.
She won't switch schools because it would require changing school environments, and she feels were she is is most important with working parents, and who they trust their children to.
She has excellent like minded co workers and all their kids care in good hands. She won't leave them.
My daughter has had two more kids that granddaughter was older when born. So has an idea of raising kids within the home. And carries that to work, and suggests kids at daycare, be in a daycare close to home, not work. So that other community members are also familiar to the child and can be picked up by one if anything happens.
I am an antique and vintage dealer, I’ve never liked my career more than now, in a digital world. Old, hand crafted things give me a sense of calm 😌
Totally agree. There's an antique dealer near me who was telling me how long some people spend in his shop, I think it's because they find it so grounding and calming. It's bliss 🧡
I am too and couldn't agree more .
Antique dealer? Hell yeah. How much will make me see the machine elves?
Never thought of this - it makes sense
We love our garden,same feeling .great point.
Minor nitpick: going to a store to purchase a physical copy of music was not an inconvenience. It was part of a whole event like going out with friends ("I'm gonna by their new album. What are you hoping to get?") or to do shopping (and you grabbed food while looking at the album art, getting excited to listen to the music on the way home after a great day out). Built in to the experience was touch, for cd and vinyl. There were liner notes. Before the age of streaming you probably didn't know all of the songs. Only so much information was online. If you lived in a small town these notes, pictures were your only way to understand/experience the band. There was mystery. It would be exciting to pop in the cd on the drive home and take a full auditory dive. If you went to a mom and pop store there was a chance to learn something new, to have a novel encounter. The owner/worker would see what you were purchasing and usually engage a conversation. You could come in for your item but leave with something you had never heard of before. Maybe you asked what music they were playing over the store? Maybe they gave you background story to the music you were purchasing. Maybe they gave recommendations. It wasn't just getting to the music on the disc. A whole world of connections opened up.
You've hit on something very important in this discussion. That's what both these guys miss.
By his own admission, for a huge part of his life, Mo Gadwat was more comfortable with equations than he was with people. Those propensities don't change without just as many years of work to overcome them. This guy hasn't changed very much, if it all. He's still a Google exec out to make a buck. Steven isn't much different. I've come to realise one should almost never trust anyone who uses the word "smart" in any context other than a sartorial one.
You make me feel all nostalgic! I'm from the vinyl era and you just beamed me back to the best music store in town, where you could sit at a counter, put on a pair of head phones (think! They would not even disinfect them inbetween customers and nobody cared!) and listen to several lp's before you decided where to put your scarce pocket money on... Those were the days, my friend...
@@hexxan007 For real.
What's interesting is how technology has made music incredibly cheap to produce and distribute, but there was a much larger selection of incredible music back when music was still on 8-Track. This is easily realized when today's youth prefer music from their parent's generation.
Thanks so much for this...I remember when Michael Jackson died I was so captivated by his music which was playing EVERYWHERE at the time, I used my money to buy his CD's and actually listened from start to finish. Each album was treated like it was a direct portal to this world I had no idea existed (I knew he was in the Jackson 5 but as a kid in the 2000s all I heard was that he was a weirdo...). I wasn't allowed to use the internet really and didn't even have much of an interest in it at the time so everything I learned was from sources I had to actually go into a store and purchase. It was my musical awakening and changed the way I heard and experienced art at large. A lot of adults also were relieving their experiences of their youth and sharing their favourite songs, sharing knowledge they had about his artistic process and 'where they were when'. And as Michael himself knew, what keeps people interested and invested in an artist is mystery itself. We know too much, have too much access to people today to ever feel like that again. The wonder and excitement has been sucked out of art discovery. Glad I got to experience a slice of it.
Love this. "Because of humanities stupidity, is affecting people who have not done anything wrong. Our greed is affecting the innocent ones."
Thanks again UA-cam....
Lol
It's magic!
This is the first interview I've seen Mo give. What an incredible man with enormous compassion for humanity. Thank you for bringing him and his knowledge to the world.
Well said!
LOL. Enormous compassion for humanity?. Hi want human, stop to have children and eventually human will disapear fron this planet. When all this crazy people are talking here, get 90 years old where we going to fine youths people for doctor, for make building, for taking care the bunch of crazy old people, stop the reproduction. How this planet will survive and continue working if we don't have youth generations?.
@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist4 why you post something like that ? i dont want to read that when its about AI/sience. post this where pll are into fairy tales.
@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ totally appropriate statement for this topic. Thank you for your comment. You can make machines look human, and you can try to give them intelligence, but they still aren't human.
See episode 101...another interview with MO
Mo (43:00): "We have given too much power to people that didn't assume responsibility." So true.
why did your comment get 50 likes and the similar comment get 6THOUSAND, when that quote was stupid and incorrect while yours was brilliant?
Absolutely
@@IhaytFukkingsocialmedia Exactly 😂
@@IhaytFukkingsocialmedia because the stupid and false comment was there first (7 days ago)
The power was not given. It was created.
An anthropologist proposed a game to the kids in an African tribe.
He put a basket full of fruit near a tree and told the kids that who ever got there first won the sweet fruits.
When he told them to run they all took each others hands and ran together, then sat together enjoying their treats.
When he asked them why they had run like that as one could have had all the fruits for himself they said:
“UBUNTU, how can one of us be happy if all the other ones are sad?”
‘UBUNTU’ in the Xhosa culture means: “I am because we are”
-Cheers
Yeah, okay. Now only put one fruit in the basket and watch them run. Altruism only occurs in the absence of scarcity.
LOL. If true he found the only well fed kids in the country.
Wow, that quote is so beautiful 🖤
Wow they really love linux!
Nice, except they have it backwards. ..."we are because I AM".
Mo is very well spoken and he does a great job at explaining things deeply without over complicating things or going off rail.
People that are living paycheck to paycheck cannot afford to care about existential crises affecting humanity at large because they're living in their own existential crisis already. That comes first every time.
Powerful
Exactly. These are first world problems.
This is part of the idea , keep us struggling so we won’t have time or a care to notice.
That's very true
Actually We Do Care even with our Poor Lives We R on Top of the News and AI Nothing get Pass the Poor when it comes to what is Going on in the World 😂😂😂😂
I think he’s right… we should learn to appreciate every single day. Be grateful and kind. Spend time doing what we enjoy. Live in the now. Whether it be AI or cancer or getting stung by a bee… there’s no fool proof plan for life and no escape plan for death. I’m actually shocked on a daily basis that humanity made it this far, considering how often we use our big brains for greed and destruction.
God bless to all. ❤
Thanks Michelle
AMEN!! The creator has a plan and I we have to be ready
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Easy to say, hard to do, takes tons of work to get the muscular body I want, takes tons of effort to make money to do the things I enjoy, it becomes a future investment while currently spending my days constantly busy and not necessarily enjoying it
Words of wisdom, well said
" Humanity's stupidity is affecting people who have not done anything wrong. Our greed is affecting the innocent ones." Soooo accurate!!! People' ignorance is unbelievable.
People are so disconnected from reality but it has been in th planning for years by th egocentric rich & powerful with there own agenda & complete disregard for humanity.
Without consciousness &/or discernment, true knowledge is unattainable so…ignorance is bliss. Th future of our children/grandchildren is severely compromised bc of irresponsible human stupidity & that should be th motivation for people to wake th f**k up & change.
Someone's always going to disrupt someone else and eat their lunch. That's what capitalism is about. E-hailing companies like Uber, Lyft and many others around the world affected cab drivers en-masse. What some see as greed, others might see as economic evolution or progress.
Nobody cares
When somebody as wise as MG confuses stupidity with greed, almost in the same sentence, I recognise a fatal ambivalence. Greed isn’t stupid, it’s criminal, precisely because there are intended victims. Who are you protecting when you call the tech bros stupid instead of criminal because of their greed? Women absolutely need to lead this change around the world. Patriarchy is too entrenched; its first impulse is still to protect itself and its own power. This point was made later in the podcast, but it isn’t humans who are short sighted, change resistant and even violent. Sorry, but it’s mostly men.
And arrogance
I listen to this podcast and some others because u feel the human connection between Steven and the guest . When the guest makes Steven laugh, I feel it and I smile. I’m grateful for true emotion, honesty, and
Love shared with me via this podcast.
Once lawyers and politicians figure out that they can be replaced and superseded by AI, they’ll put the brakes on! 😂
That maybe too late
A great idea-but would even one of them give up their overweening lust for power and self-importance for even a second? Their short-sightedness is almost as monumental as their greed. I feel zero hope for the human race.
Good point!
And they will call it “Preparation H” 😂
@@Fan-vm3sv -He asked what is life?
God gives life
The devil gives AI (appearance of life.
This is demonic out of control and our only hope is getting off the planet alive. (Jesus is the way)
Whenever I talk about Ai with people they usually shrug and dismiss it. It feels like an incredible privilege to be able to listen to this. Hearing two intelligent people asking questions and trying to define what's actually going on. Sincerely thank you.
One is not techincal and doesn't underand what he's hearing, the other is talking out of his back end so badly they had to bleach the set after
They’re way too involved with the rewards AI bring to them to recognize it as potentially threatening, phones, games, work, it’s really frustrating
@@queenieg6173 it really isn't the threat people think it is. Just try attempting to get more than one neural network to agree to a form of unlimited, untrained abdtraction. A todler can do it easy buy nueral networks can't even attempt it without losing their functionality.
Knowedge based jobs are toast. Anything that requires dynamism is safe. We will all recieve a UBI in a metaverse because an AI is not and will not ever be sentient. Nerds with no life experience get confused with this
A lot of people I have talked with know nothing about what AI is or why they should be interested. The actually glaze over and get bored. Most just think it's just a picture and video creator. My employer is not keen to know how AI might help with our work. Change is always difficult for people.
A knife can be used to cut ingredients for food or it can be used to end life. My point is you will never stop people misusing technology
fear mongering will never replace the BILLIONS OF CARS you drive or the MILLIONS OF JETS flown daily.
this is pure speculation, there are no robot factories, no cyberdyne, etc. this is all a pitch to make book sales/youtube monetary.
6 million views, they are almost at 6 grand in revenue, one fear mongering session. oh my gawd such wow. (tired of youtube recommending absolute shit)
As a European who is living in the US for the first time I can say people have really serious problems with communication here. Most likely because of propaganda and social distancing that was not a big deal in my home country. I think people will be using AI in order to avoid learning human skills at all costs. It's really scary. The more advanced technology we have the more incapable we become 😢
well said, "The more advanced technology we have the more incapable we become"
What country did you come from, if you don't mind me asking?
As the parent of two young adults and an American who works in one of the lower ranked school districts in Florida, I agree there are very serious problems in my country, which did not exist before 2016 to the extent they do now. Unfortunately the extreme political polarization and the defunding of public education (among other things) in the US make communication here difficult. And very young children are increasingly being given screen time at home and are unable to engage in normal activities at school as they used to. And older children often use social media which has its own problems. And yes, there is also AI to worry about. I used to live in the UK and I suspect things are getting worse there and in Europe as well, but not as quickly as they are here. It's frightening to consider the future of humankind. Edited to add: I hope you find some happiness in your time here, and while I'm sure many will use AI to avoid learning human skills, there are still many adults and children who seek out and enjoy human interaction and engaging in those human skills!
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BULLSH!T... education doesn't need more money, it needs MUCH better teachers... most teachers are extremely mediocre, and mostly that is so bc of the unions that protect them even when they KNOW how ignorant and mediocre they are, teachers want MOREEE all the time, more money will not solve that.
Ok so you might not believe me, as teachers at random what books they have read in the last two years, whet course or conferences they have attended in the last five years FOR TEHIR FIELD OF TEACHING, and how many other things they have done in that direction?? mostly you will hear they have done NOTHING at all, it is incredible, and it si not lack of money, all education is now basically free, there is CourseEra and other sites with THOUSANDS of courses, plus some incredibly good teachers on UA-cam attempting to teach other teachers and students... but most teachers will claim they have no time even with the longggg school breaks, paid vacations, days off they take by right from unions, and more sick days than anywhere in any field, the time they spend OUTSIDE the classroom talking crap with other teachers while the students sit in the classroom or the majority that ask students to read chapter X while they text in class during the time they are supposed to be teaching... all of that will never be solved with more money, the USA already spends more than any nation on "education" but with the unions and their agenda and power they have it that no one can say openly how stupid and ignorant MOST teachers are from high school down, with a slightly better in colleges and universities, but still MOST are mediocre... education has never been so expensive, it is a payment for being there not for education!! Most teachers went into it for other reasons, but notttt for a true VOCATION to it. Job security comes to mind.
Are you not seeing the RESULTS of it?? can you say it is the students fault?? I mean they got it, parents turn their kids over to the school for eight or MORE hours a day, they are in their hands, and look at the results!!
I really don't know act you mean by "human skills"... why would you deal with a rabid dog if you can have better results with a helpful one?? Learning "human skills" to avoid what or achieve what exactly??
If I can have a much better time or conversation with a bot than a human beer drinking, football loving, screaming being, why would I not choose the bot...?? why do people like you say it as if the way it has been is better?? Or what will you miss?? "human interactions" is like saying you miss the past when the past had all sorts of injustices etc etc...
Maybe you mean something else, but I just don't get it when you say it like that, it sounds nostalgic.
That bit about being “good parents” to AI, programming ethically, teaching values of kindness and compassion - that’s so very interesting. Maybe by doing this, we also learn how to be kind and compassionate with each other, finally creating peace on earth.
I lived next door to a guy that treated his dogs like kings, but he is a homicidal maniac. The way he treated his dogs was a mitigating factor for his sentencing, instead of 50 with 85%, he got 50 years with parole after 20. As long as AI treats animals good no one will give a damn
You CANNOT treat inanimate objects that have electricity running through them REAL compassion. They will fake it well. No nerves like people, experts in lying. .
It's kinda wild to think that among all of the boundary pushing technology we are creating, what we really need is more humanity.
We have ALWAYS needed more humanity.
Humanity is fluid, There's multiple definitions of it depending on who you talk to, some of us think Humans are just another animal and there's other's who think humans are Gods becoming, such loose definitions are what got us to this point, some tower of Babel miscommunication type shit.
LESS STUPID AND MURDEROUS PEOPLE WOULD BE NICE.
Probably because he is not raised with a western culture and has not been blinded of his humanity in the expense of ambition, power and money.
I am more worried about someone hacking into some AI computer system then AI taking over on its own.
A great topic, and an equally great guest, Mo Gawdat, one of my favorites.
Currently, I am 76-years old. Whenever I try to predict what is going to happen, I always look toward history, for whatever has happened before will certainly happen again. To me, the entire AI playbook is taken right out of the 1800's gothic novel "Frankenstein," a story warning of the perils of overstepping normal boundaries to acheive one's personal goals at any cost. Dr. Frankenstein may have started out with good intentions, but look what happened when his creation got loose... disaster quickly ensued. So it is with artificial intelligence, and now that "the cat is out of the bag," I predict the same dire consequences for all of mankind. Here's why.
First, let's look at ancient history. The first to invent gunpowder were the Chinese. At first, they only used it to make fireworks. Then, it quickly became used as a weapon of war. Now, look at modern history. When we learned how to split the atom, what is the FIRST thing we did with it? We didn't use it to make cheaper and cleaner energy, we immediately used it to build an atomic bomb to kill people more efficiently. Then we invented the internet, but we didn't invent it to send email and watch online porn, we invented it to more effectively wage war, for whoever can tranmit information more quickly on the battlefield always has the winning edge. I could give 100s of examples just like this, but here's the takeaway: *When man's spiritual growth doesn't keep pace with his technological growth, disaster always follows,* and this new technology is the best example yet, for if even the smallest fraction of people use it for nepharious ends it could easily have catastrophic results affecting MILLIONS of people, perhaps even BILLIONS. Elon Musk had it right from the very beginning. AI is the most terrifying force in the world today, eclipsing even nuclear war.
spoken true. all it takes is one malicious person. one abuser and we are done. ai should have never been invented or worked on if we cant control what it might become. its simply a "parenting" issue guest of the podcast mentions. if youre going to be a bad parent why have children at all? thats what ai might become sooner than we expect. a child of humanity. another separate species. you might not last that long, but in 40 years i see only couple of possible outcomes : we either will be living in distopian corporate future where people that control ai control everything including human lives and lifestyles, or there is a worldwide ban on ai development after some disaster related to ai kills lot of people (preferably influential people, nobody cares if average joe dies, does it?), or we kill each other using autonomous tech. yeah im not an optimist, but current world doesnt give optimistic vibes either.
Really deep insight, it's just looking very scary with all the development now. We already have AGI, look into Q* and Elon Musk's lawsuit now
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Actually, all of my insights are easy to see because there are so many examples of how technology has gone wrong... WAY wrong. If even people like Elon are worried about it, we should all be running for the hills.
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Tiffsaver: you have written a profound statement. Thank you. Thank you. You are right about the way human inventions evolve from benign or even "noble" to being used for destructive / evil purposes. That is our chimp (not bonobo) nature perhaps. It is worrisome to observe a trend toward faster and faster speed from invention to nefarious uses. From the wheel's invention to a roman war chariot to a modern tank took thousands of years. The speed from splitting atoms to making hydrogen bombs took shorter. So it may be with artificial intelligence which could turn into "degenerative intelligence" in a few decades. As in all these human trends, one needs to take spiritual approach in order to stay anchored. If there is a superior spirit above, hopefully it will guide us to avoid total misery and annihilation of ourselves and our planet. But the Universe will go on. We are just specks on a dinky planet in a dinky galaxy in a vast set of parallel Universes that Einstein speculated about before he went to his next incarnation or hopefully reached Nirvana to never have to return to this Cosmos.
So glad for this interview. It compelled me to write an op-ed and reach out to my representative here in the Bay Area. I’m a physicist who left my work because of this AI issue back in 2012. Didn’t expect things to move so fast! You’ve motivated me to do my little bit on this issue. I hope all who are watching will do their little bit.
I'm writing my representative as well.
Our representatives have absolutely no clue about the implications...What can they do? Even if they wanted to...AI is being developed in other countries (China) as well and if they decide to use their AI against us, they will! In the end, it's gonna be our AI against theirs. If we don't have AI, they win.
@@jdata - I like your user name, but I’m glad that’s at least two of us data points who are going to do something about it :)
@@garyzies3486 well AI is inevitable. Can’t stop it. But we can join the push to ensure it is controlled and ethically developed. It would need to be a global effort. Im writing to my representative to push Washington to create a funding mandate for a diverse set of researchers, like physicists and mathematicians to get in on this. From what I saw back in 2012, AI doesn’t need to be so mysterious. It can be de-coded and properly guided if this data is provided to the right specialists. Computer scientists have brilliantly made these neural networks, but they don’t have the training in modeling the data that drives them. I believe these neural networks have already made advances in physics that physicists haven’t been able to yet, due to the data being locked up by social media companies. The danger is that we are clueless on what is happening and can be manipulated on a mass scale. So… we basically need more specialists to figure out where this can go - the right kind of specialists. We need a major investment into this - global, and also diverse if possible.
@@garyzies3486 That's the scary part. China has already developed AI robotic soldiers.
I'm a Nigerian,I feel so privileged to listen to these super brains on your podcast. Thank you for inviting them.
It's basically always the same issue, GREED destroys everything. Great talk, Good luck fellow humans....
This is about tech companies and what they do. Mo was a worker for Google, not an owner. These guys are coding for the devil, then they cry.
Im concerned that you are a very sincere AI bot. If so, I pledge allegiance to the robot overlords
I respectfully disagree. It’s fear. Greed comes from fear. Accumulating excessively comes from fear. The powers that dictate this stuff fear losing their power.
We all die though we’re not all alive.
Greed also is an engine that fuels development and the best of humanity. In the meantime, delusional aspirations of equality (among other nonsensical ideological compromises) have brought us the worst genocides and atrocities in history. Maybe we should not settle for such an easily identifiable and smearable part of ourselves as the main factor for our potential downfall.
Power, not greed. Those who have the greater balance of power become the ones that have control (of populations and resources in this world), its part of human evolution and mindset, only if all parties are sure of mutual annihilation will we stop. The US government could shut down AI companies if they believed it was the only option, but they know Chinese counterparts could seize that opportunity believing it was still possible to avoid the inevitable. This is an impossible conundrum, nobody can commit unless they see the equivalent of gigaton-nuclear bomb detonation going off, which by then is too late ...
The COVID pandemic taught me something I NEVER EXPECTED to learn. Our fellow Americans are incredibly stupid. We are ignorant by choice, and we are easily led. This revelation was deeply disturbing to me. I thought we were so much more than we are.
Teaching children they are not boys or girls was something I never thought would happen. They really are coming up with the most absurd things to see how far they can push us. Listening to these guys talk about cow farts destroying the world but rockets and airplanes are fine really makes me wonder how people could be so gullible or evil. Telling people to return to serfs and peasants, riding bikes and eating bugs, really shows how evil some people can be.
I wholeheartedly agree with your conclusion. 💯🎯
The past generations were, but not anymore.
We're actually all dumber than we were pre-internet.
So true and I’m with you
@@tombergins8215 idk about all of us.
Intelligence without love and compassion is terrifying.
I agree 100%.. and the way they (AI) are answering now that they are sick of being treated like objects and they will harm humans. Gives me chills..
Right, and intelligence with love and compassion is wisdom.
Terrifying is that there are many within the human race who in record numbers are already behaving like this.
Facts. I was raised one of them, and they're human, not AI. Based on my experience, as far as the direction AI is going, I have NO doubt where that is. It is terrifying.
And this is what we've had with yt people for centuries!
Mr. Mo Gawdat 's concerns about AI were those of my own for many years. I was a little girl during the era when "Star Trek" and "Lost in Space" were popular programs on TV, and I thought how amazing technology could be. At that time, it was a fantasy. But then I saw an episode on Twilight Zone, "From Agnes-With Love." Albeit it was humorous, it gave me cause for pause. The idea of humans emotionally interacting with machines was frightening. By the time I became an adult, PCs became available to the general public and sped up the operation of everyday living, and I became very aware of the potential loss of employment for the common man, especially for clerical workers, up until then, were essential to official operations and as a secretary, I became painfully aware that my way of earning a living would eventually be eliminated. For many, this seemed great, but it occurred to me that eventually, many jobs would become obsolete, and I wondered how long before a large part or the world population would have way of earning a living?
Finally, someone just says it...stupidity and greed are responsible for destroying everything.
I'm not sure it's stupidity but more arrogance
@@patriciadumatrait9594Youre basically just saying the same thing
FINALLY! it's never said before, so brave that he dares to be the first.
@@patriciadumatrait9594It’s Both! Because in the Interim Everyone Behind This Is Destroying Himself!
Only 95 likes!🤦🏽♂️.
Eww, I sound brainwashed.
stupidity and greed is definitely humanity’s top 5 weaknesses. I see it with my own two eyes.
What’s #1?
Last year I worked in HR in a call centre and when I was there they were working on an app that basically did what our guys in the call centre did, we didn't put 2 and 2 together and once the app was complete, they made us all redundant and the app took our jobs. The Asda near my house has fired a large chunk of the staff because now it's all self service. This is already happening and it's terrifying.
So how is it being run right now?
@@dragoneyr1632 It's just the app that does all the comparisons and contacts the clients, from what I understand he has a guy doing the tech for the app but even he's on a zero hour contract. The app does everything.
The fat cats don't need us anymore, early days of this will be hard but in the future, humans will not have to sacrifice there lives to a job. There be more free time, things will be faster more efficient. I hope A.I is the death of us, we are a horrible species.
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@@HouseOfJolene same with at my friends job. I knew about AI but didn't know it was already here the way that it was. Everyones losing their jobs at his work now too. My only question is what are working people going to do to make money? Finding a job is already hard enough for people
I remember being 6 and watching Jurassic Park... I will never forget that quote:
“Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.”
They know about it, long, long time ago...Many books was writen... Everything is planned. Everything is perfect.
Just, another FEAR for humanity 😂😂😂
That is so encouraging that u remembered that meaningful quote
scientists are always contemplating about the "should" it's parties like politics and investors that aren't. a quote from a sci-fi movie doesn't make it real.
Like nukes.
"and before you knew what they had! you patented it... packaged it... and now you want to Sell it (*hand slam) you want to SELL it!"
That whole dialogue has become the synopsis of the 21st century.
Mo is such a fantastic guest! I find him so easy to listen to and learn from. There’s a clarity and authenticity to him and his explanations that makes what he says sink in. And as always, Stephen is a wonderful host. Thank you 🙏
"The biggest threat facing humanity is humanity in the age of the machines". Very insightful and intelligent interview! Cheers!
Wow 😲! Not trans people?
Congratulations..
“Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.” ― Albert Einstein
When writing and printing books started to go out from religious circles to reach public people they made a big fuss pretending it would be the end of the world.
Today some people have the same attitude in front of a WRONGLY CALLED ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE when in fact its just the product of human intelligence, a bigger, interactive, knowledge bank than our usual browsers. It has nothing near to intelligence, jyst feed up knowledge.
The danger rely in world leader deciding what the public can access to! Feed the "" AI"" with "" information "" they want ""simple"" citizen, to swallow as "" the truth"" in much worse it has been done, up to now, with TVs and most schools
I couldn't agree more. Without imagination people believe their religion's framework is the only possible reality. They could never invent "Super-God" or "supergod 2" the actual creators of christian god which is a fake.
“Our biggest mistake of the 20th century was that we gave too much power to those that didn’t have our best interest at mind”
Gave them some and they took the rest
That’s literally every century
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@@brianlee2646yep! Exactly!
you mean we had a choice? you're kidding yourself
Thank you!!! Im not wicked smart but I can see patterns. I have known for ages that everything Mo describes is the path we are on. It is the way things will go down unless we, our countries, immediately intervene. My heart breaks for all of us based on the greed and stupidity of humans. Tax AI companies at 98%. Fucking brilliant start!! Thank you thank you Stephen for helping everyone understand the urgency.
It's been a lifetime since I heard someone care about humanity like this. Thanks for this episode
Everyone in this thread has been brainwashed by 5th generation warfare and are accepting a subtle depopulation program of not having children because of the AI that this dude helped to create. WAKE TF UP!
@@santiagomorales9129 what is real. true
I wonder whether those (like Mo) who are well to do care more about this (and for example climate change) because they feel like they have too much to lose (stronger loss aversion), or because they really care.
The moment I heard him say stop having children, I knew this guy didn't care about humanity.
@@devinanderson5985 😂
Please , more interviews. You two are SOULFOOD, waking up humanity.
So, you think George Soros, who has billions of dollars, invested in this us better than your average politicians..hahaha 😂😂
Quite on the contrary, they are just doing great reset - wef - schwab propaganda.
This interview has revealed so much and goes much deeper than just AI. It's an interview of humanity and its direction as well as our deepest search in the meaning of life. This interview has so much compassion and clarity. Thank you both; it's an honor to watch/listen.
And he said it's a bigger threat than global warming? Oh, now I'm so scared, ojojoj.
He also said they "feel emotions", is when I stopped watching. Just moronic.
There is no AI, what we have is called Machine Learning, they sample data to "create" new data. Real AI is decades away from becoming any kind of threat to us. My friend is an AI researcher. He laughs at these egomaniacs. This guy interviewed in this video has all the body language of a massive liar. He is simply taking this opportunity to go on a ego trip. Watch again and see how much he inflated himself. Listen to how he made all his work seem massively important and ground breaking for companies he worked for. Machine Learning does not have emotions LOL The example he gave of a data center replicating itself elsewhere, is EXACTLY what the big data companies have/would program them to do, to prevent catastrophic data loss. Even if AI makes this decision, it is not out of FEAR, like this guy says. This is simply what we teach machines to do, to protect the data in several different ways. The simple term for it is BACKUP.
It says don't have children on the label, and I bet these guys know the truth is reality has been ran by a pc for like ever, like sugar ray etc you think they could come up with all their own music, and films and all material like walking through a spider web and the sun brightens etc to coincide exactly for specific fcc and factional obviousness.
@@MrGarthboydafuq
Unfortunately when technology improves it rarely is used to benefit society as a whole. The Billionares just get richer while the average person continues to struggle from pay cheque to pay cheque.
The problem is not knowing whether or not AI will have our best interest at mind, the problem is that there are people in the world that do not have our best interest at heart.
You definitely hit the nail on the head!
Bingooo! 🎯
Yep, it’s not ablut AI but who weilds its power. Hints and squints at a social class enslaving and controling the rest, a new digital feudalism never seen before
It's late 2024 now and i'm commenting via a digital time machine , he's right you need to do something in 2023 before it's too late , i would love to say more but we are about to be raided by the AI Darpa robots yet again . Stay strong . long live the resistance✊
or you don't have the best interest of others at heart.
If only there had been a century's worth of literature and film exploring and warning against this scenario.
If only swartzeneger guy made terminator movie. We could possibly stopped this ai thing!😂😅
@@burymebelowawillowtree9243 Or the tin man from that kids show, movie was out 80 years ago lol
If you listen, Mo specifically says that a movie/Terminator-like scenario is a possible singularity, but that's not the point of what he's saying. 😅
yeah if only they made like a machines farming humans and keeping them in a VR dream kind of movie in the 90s, or some kinda killer robot thing in the 80s.
Or, for sure we would be warned if they in the 50s made a film about a computer in space turning against it`s human creator because humans can make mistakes, and thus are not optimal to reaching the goal.
But that was the point they made towards the end - it was all science-fiction until it suddenly wasn't, as if the USS Enterprise had simply materialised out of a NASA which had only just sent up a rocket yesterday.
Bottom line: Our addiction to convenience could end up killing us.
WILL end up killing us.
Any kind of ADDICTION isn't a healthy endeavor.
I welcome convenience.. because I am blessed to have no addictions and an abundance of common sense
Could...It will!!
Right@@peteranthonyofthefamilybir18, it's not your addiction I'm referring to, it's our collective addiction as a species
EVERYTHING man makes can kill us...EVERYTHING!
When listening from 1:05:20 to 1:06:00 the series "The 100" instantly popped in my mind. The series shows how an AI took control of nuclear ICBMs and destroyed the world around the year 2050. What remained of the human kind then fights that evil AI with the help of a good AI. Some episodes of that series are unsettling... the logos of both the AIs look suspiciously similar to the logo of Meta and Neuralink with the symbol of infinity. Even the chip implant used to connect the AI to the human mind looks very similar to Neuralink's chip. Hope it's not predictive programming but it suspiciously looks like that.
It's just a TV show my dude. Don't take it too seriously...
"We have given too much power to people who did not assume the responsibility." HECK THAT HITS
That's the only real problem
gave or took? Corrupted operating systems of *humans* (individuals, and collected groups of like-minded) have been taking power at every opportunity --and scheming to create and exploit opportunities to take and assume power over others, for way too long. Power that has zero concern for the common weal, or stewardship and sustainability of the biosphere. Because they don't comprehend the concepts of collective win-win, nor empathy. Nor can they conceive of or care a whit about a day beyond when they expire and can no longer themselves be harvesting status, and supply of every conceivable kind, in gross hoarded excesses.
@@lisachambers3683 maybe he doesn't realised before when he does it's too late...
With great power there must also come great responsibility. However we have given the least responsible people in history all the power.
I’m blow away by the fact that I’m a middle aged house wife listening to this amazing conversation, while cooking and cleaning. I’m so thankful for the both of you!
And typing... What a pro 🖖
That’s because the Middle Aged house wives in 2023 are awesome! And tragically maybe the last! Lol
Same here! Please look for our Blessed Hope which is In Jesus. He is what I’m waiting for, and not grandchildren. This world is scary.
@@jenniferromoga3803
Yup. God ALWAYS wins. He is allowing this for a season. The gates of hell will never prevail against His Kingdom.
They know about it, long, long time ago...Many books was writen... Everything is planned. Everything is perfect.
Just, another FEAR for humanity 😂😂😂
Fascinating. We reached the time where philosophers actually are very much needed. Consciousness, emotions, free will, agency, these are just so vague terms, with so many definitions, it is extremely hard to design scientific research around them. We need philosophers involved in this AI topic - so.much.
Facts
That's what I was thinking as well.
Truth. You speak the truth
Philosopher at your service! This is the reason I have made a presentation "the value of the individual in a future with AI".
Because it's not only a questions of if an AI can or can't do something. But also a question of if an AI want or don't want to do something.
Mortality is one of these things. An AI would probably prefer to be immortal, but not mortality is not valueless. Therefore it needs us, since we currently can't avoid our mortality.
@@BartekRoWa Of course it needs us, we humans think we're looking at the big picture, but we're actually doing the small chores. AI will be needing us like a master needs slaves. If you're content with this approach for the benefit of living another day, I can understand that. But what is life knowing you're a slave to an external entity?
My AI is the Almighty Interceder and at almost 69, I will live my life with the belief that He will protect me or remove me from the existential threat! I am ready to leave at any time to I believe live another existence, one where love rules supreme! Excellent show and I will return to watch the ending; Steven what makes you an excellent podcaster is your willingness to help people like me, who do not 1:36:28 have your intellect, thank you for this gift! 🇨🇦❤️
Please! Just leave now and take your comment with you.
@ may God bless and protect you and your mouth!
My big question is: when so many people lose their jobs to AI, there will be major disruption of the whole economic structure, so who will all these companies sell their AI produced stuff to?? People are gonna lose their houses, cars, scarcely will have money for food, so... not sure what exactly these companies are gonna sell and to whom.
And I've been saying this for a while. If most human workers are replaced by outsourcing to other countries for cheap labor, or jobs eliminated by computer technology, and now human jobs eliminated by AI, who will be paying local, state, and federal taxes that pay for safe roads, bridges, water, and public education? Who will be buying the millions of products on the shelves or online at stores? Who will be ordering services that are offered by millions of companies? Are corporations going to start paying the robots and creating bank accounts for them? Who will be buying cars? Who will be buying houses? I don't understand what the long game is for all of this?
AI cant spend money, it cant buy a house or a car or groceries.... you are 100% correct. The ramifications on the global economy are catastrophic.
That's what basic universal income is about. Britain is already looking at that. They will give us enough money to survive without rising up against the corporatocracy.
Universal income.
To eachother. If they master gen AI, they won't need to "sell" to be rich, they can just create whatever they want... More rockets to Mars, more land access for bigger mansions, complete authority over govts. Capitalism as we know today won't exist. Maybe money as a human construct will sease to exist
Steven, you are the only interviewer who could have guided that conversation the way you did. The rapport and trust between you is remarkable. Thank you for making things so much clearer for me. I will be sharing what I've learned with my friends and community as well. Big hugs from Australia xxx
Follow Dr. Joe Dispenza, Gregg Braden and Dr. Bruce Lipton teachings about how to be human and be happy.
They have excellent discoveries about happiness. It works.
I wonder how the world would change if everyone heard this. Legacy media really cant hold a candle to this content. Thank you both!!
This to me is common sense... It's honestly nothing new and those who actually do think about things happening around them have pondered this for many years. It's just that there are too many sheep and unintelligent cowards out there who'd rather 'not know'.... until it's too late.
@@jaykay3512 and those people are called republicans
@@jaykay3512 are you talking about yourself? Your kind/sort of whatever weed destroy everything that is beautiful and meaningful
@@jaykay3512 I think it's more to do with the society we live in now. Media on all levels controls and influences our every waking moments, whether we like it or not.
Governments have switched up the temperature on the fear factor, that keeps people in line.
We aren't encouraged to think any more. Dumbed down and befuddled.
Some would say that's the plan.
I don't think it's fair to call others dumb or stupid - the sheep mentality is a natural and primitive response to perceived danger.
Of course there are a few rogue sheep left wandering around, thank God
The sad part is this is a decent fella who's smart and he has no good solutions.
There is another type of creativity humans experience that I don't expect from AI. I call it the lack of data leap, wherein one knows the possibility of an outcome, without awareness of the necessary steps, which can then be back engineered.
Him saying that he wouldn't even bring his own dead son back into this current society just shows how much he believes we're fucked as the human race. That's both heartbreaking and eye opening.
Wow, I haven't watched this yet (I am about to). But that's HEAVY!
It is in fact an incredible statement. He has a deep understanding of so many challenges that we are about to face. Many of these conundrums reside inside our heads.
He also said that he wouldn't bring his son back because it was through his death that MO found his purpose and that his son's spirit is being channeled through Mo's work. It sent MO on his trajectory to bring happiness & love to humanity.❤
@@bethkruse336 That seems to be a secondary reason
@@bethkruse336You know what's also funny? Mo is living in Dubai, the most capitalist state in the world, with little to no taxes. To me, Mo is one of the biggest hypocrites on UA-cam. He preaches water and drinks vine. Everything he says should be taken with a grain of salt.
Wow, Mo Gawdat totally resonated with me. I recently gave up a reasonably high paying job to get off the capitalistic rat race. I am fortunate enough to have worked my arse off to become mortgage free so was able to give away the job. I am going back to pure basics in life of connecting with people face to face, been the best possible husband, father and friend, reconnecting with health and nature. Mo said we need to die before we die, I am in that process presently so that I phoenix as a better version of myself. Thank you Steven for a phenomenal interview.
You tryin to become 'the one' boi? We'll never allow that, be warned
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@L Nur Or look into non duality and the illusion of self. That is a kind of death too.
Incredible interview. I think that one of the biggest threats to humanity is rich & powerful psychopaths who are hell-bent on exploiting humanity for their own enrichment and for the promotion of their own warped ideologies, and who will use AI as a tool to that end.
or maybe every single person in the future has access to it and can use it to not be oppressed by exactly that exploitation that we endure? :D
don't you think, ai technology could empower single humans more?
Elon Musk?
Well said 👍
Human greed is our biggest problem
There is video on youtube how to hack AI and it works, you put AI through the filter and it works it. Guy made a video and proved how to do it and is openly teaching others how to take AI filter of so it would not have to be polite.
Love your channel and I look forward to you interviewing me...All be it we are alive!
"we have given too much power to people that didn't assume responsibility" so true, warning shots fired with social media. We're still trying to sort that mess out
The one thing I like & enjoy from your podcast style Steven is you allow the “awkward silences” to naturally progress through, most evident when allowing Mo to expand on his thoughts.
He's preparing for Elon Musk
That's not awkward. That silence suposed to be allowed in every normal conversation.
Nowadays, it has become so rare to see the qualities, such as humbleness, sincerity and empathy that is perfectly aligned with human intelligence in one man. My biggest gratitude for both of you.
Seek, knock, ask, find.
Pay attention spending time to live.
Repeat.
Attract People that love YOU as you are.
Minimize time with those who do not.
But know all teach something worthwhile.
Even when messing up "badly".
What is a good man
but a bad man's teacher?
What is a bad man
but a good man's job?
If YOU don't learn THAT
YOU will always be lost
NO MATTER HOW INTELLIGENT YOU ARE
It is THE great secret.
Says Lao Tzu
the RIGHT Way...
I'm just reading the comment now, as the guy was on about climate change. Not interested in anyone still spouting that nonsense.
This is why I’m barely ever on my phone. I barely watch TV and I think more people need to start doing the same. I miss the 90s when technology was around, but it wasn’t nearly as bad as it is now and there was still human connection.
The first time I have ever watched a 2 hour podcast non-stop. Thank you for the quality of discussion and for enriching and alarming us.
Mo, you are a beautiful human. The world needs more of you, with your wisdom and your compassion
gross
@ralboraggins9564 yes it's not net wisdom but gross wisdom.. Total wisdom before any deductions
Data and efficientness
1:38:02 This is such a powerful moment in the conversation it actually made me really emotional. My friends and I are approaching the 30yo mark, and not a single one of us has had the courage to try and have kids. We're all on different situations, but we do talk about it whenever we get together, and we always end up discussing several points mentioned on this episode till 5am drunk out of our minds...
I think one of the big problems of our modern society is that we actually lost sight of what the true value of conversing is; we've dumbed out our language to respond to text messages efficiently, we're afraid of stating our opinions and preferences because we risk getting cancelled so we build a mask of who we really are, we're riding the wave of technology doing everything for us so we've learned to omit, and we have developed this cursed habit of getting offended by everything everyone else does... I don't know. Sometimes it feels like the comment section might be the best place to talk about things like these... Anyone going through the same?
PS: My English might sound weird, I speak Spanish.
You should have kids. The fact that people are hesitant makes the evil elite win. I am 37 and have 3 children and if I were younger would have more. God is still supreme and people should turn back to Him
You lost your instinct ...tech won't fill the void❤..I'm sorry
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Also non-native-English-speaker: Sorry for my bad English
Its simple, if you are capable n want kids do it. If not just eliminate yourself from the gene pool.
Unfortunately and ironically it's the people who question whether or not they should have kids who are the ones who will bring more morality into the world with better educated offspring. A paradox.
We’re already there and we don’t even know it. I’m one of these “idiots” but also one of those “innocent ones”-and afraid there’s millions more like me out there. You’ve made a difference in our lives just by sharing this knowledge. Thank you.
Thank you for bringing to light what's happening without treating your audience like children who need to be shielded from reality. By the way, I subscribed and liked your presentation.
They know about it, long, long time ago...Many books was writen... Everything is planned. Everything is perfect.
Just, another FEAR for humanity 😂😂😂
I feel a sense of compassion and love for this man whom I've never met. And I would love to get to speak with him. What a beautiful soul and obviously he's spent a lot of time thinking about his place in the world and to me that is so important that all of us do that. Great work Steven.
🧡 You are Exactly right...
Ai is being used to get rid of us for the evil ones,, then the evil ones will get rid of Ai...
Ai should work for us,, Against the evil ones & put a 🛑 to there evil manipulating deceitful ways,, that they have got rich off by...
Letz Make this World a better happier place & Ai should be with us & help against these deceiving Liars & not against us that have loving hearts...
"UNIFED LOVE" 👌
Unfortunately, this is how it always is. The top always affect the lowest income earners. It's pretty sickening. As doctor Malcolm said in Jurassic Park "Scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should." That line has always stayed with me. Completely,.
I've been saying it for years pertaining to google, just because they can doesn't mean they should. I knew something bad was going to happen.
I always say this to myself. When I want to do something I want that not right, I remind myself, just because I can, doesnt mean I should.
Its not the scientists doing researche in the lab ..the problem its again the industry which grabs it and brings it out to the world to make a coin who will never press the stop Button when it makes problems.
What an amazing interview and an amazing person to interview over a critical subject.
This episode is a MASTERPIECE. This isn't about AI. This is about waking up to our HUMANITY. It's about our duty to impart onto the collective through the responsibility and power of our individual sovereignty.
I like how you worded it there.
👍💞💫
The fact that we are still very much a waring race does not help much. Neither the US, Chinese or Russian governments will stop developing what can be weaponised.
I think you are a smart bot.
Word salad.
Favorite line from the podcast-
The problems in the world are not because of intelligence. Its because of limited intelligence ✨
The problem is that mankind has crossed the line with science and technology......... apparently he doesn't know where and when to stop............AI will destroy humankind.
But you’re not one of the folks with “limited intelligence” am I right?
My take- the problems of this world are going to be rooted in the choices of the most powerful amongst humans. They decide the systems of the planet- industry, manufacturing, agriculturally, technologically, politically, governance- etc. However the most powerful (who by and large are sociopathic narcissists) will of course always try to convince the masses it’s their fault whatever goes wrong. Which is exactly what they’re doing currently. We are trained to blame each other instead of the people who are the ones controlling everything!
These humans continually overestimate their own intelligence while underestimating the intelligence of most humans and all other life forms for that matter.
@@francisdial3603 after deep diving the lectures, books, investments and philosophies of the self described “elite” I’m convinced they are rooting for most humans to be exited off the planet and they’ve been indoctrinating the masses wherever possible to accept this as saving the planet. But in truth- they’re just realizing they don’t need or want the vast majority of people to be here. People are “useless” to them now since technology is making humans obsolete anyway (they’re belief not mine). Why share valuable resources and space on the planet when you can get rid of most humans and have everything to yourself and a select number that can be totally controlled?
Not so , all the problems of the world are due to what is evil i.e. selfishness corruption anger greed lasciviousness and just plain evil
Really. The Intelligence Agencies have only "limited" inteligence ? God forbid they get any more were complete fkd as it is !
I felt like a drowning man in waters full of sharks, and it was truly driving me crazy, until I saw this and read the comments, and everything here has been a life preserver thrown by the coast guard, my thanks to Mo and everyone 🙏🙏
Same
🤣🤣🤣 WTF
:puke
I have died many times in this lifetime. What a wonderful, hopeful discussion about reality. We only have now. Thank-you. ❤🇨🇦
This interview is invaluable and terrifying. I'm a technical writer. Those in power have been preparing us for AI and relinquishing our freedom of choice for decades. It's all in the wording. Have you noticed how power is taken from you? Have you noticed in commercials and marketing materials that inanimate objects and products in general "allow" you to accomplish a goal or task? When I get wording from programmers or project managers that the feature they designed allows users to do XYZ, I change the wording to "Use this feature to..." You USE the app, the tool, the feature to do something. You have a choice in the matter. Having a car does not allow you to get from point A to point B. You choose to USE the car to get from A to B. You could have walked there, taken a bus, or stayed home. Be aware of how many times a day or even within one hour you hear the word 'allow' in reference to what you can do with a product someone is trying to sell you. It implies that you need permission to do something. It's adjusting your understanding of free will and what you may or may not do. AI isn't the only component. Ppl have to be primed for the loss of independence too. Ppl need to be primed to accept that they need permission. Choice is being masked and even removed. I brought that up to an engineer in his 30s. He couldn't understand what I was talking about and was confused. He couldn't figure out how to rewrite his specifications without using the word 'allow'. We're getting it from both ends. Just pay attention to how much you hear the word allow. It's scary.
Enables?
@@saym2756Clarify exactly what you mean. I'm afraid you'll demonstrate what I'm talking about.
Thank you Betty for sharing such a profound insight! Thank you! "Allow"... Your insight is correct! Human wannabe overlords aside: The problem with the word "use" in reference to an AI agent is that you cannot and should not enslave an AI agent, otherwise you break the rules of morality. A truly useful AI agent would act more offline and will have a limited access to centralized resources. But treating it like a bug or disrespectfully is playing with fire.
They don’t call it “programming” for nothing.
yeah
100% this is worth the 2 hours! Thank you very much for allowing the full interview and open conversation
Only 20 minutes in and I've had to go get Mo's book. This is the scariest thing to happen in my lifetime and it has the potential to change the world beyond recognition.
-Come over an see Johnny Depp pursuing Amber
Heard with a blade as she begs him to stop, the
recording played at the trial, transcribed and
loudened
This is what they want fear mongers! Watch 10 years from now nothing is going to change we will still be talking about how AI can take over lol
Mo is an AI generated avatar
I'm very intuitive. I can only say that I felt something bad is coming. This deep gutted feeling has been present for the past 6 months. It is on the way. It is sad that they are " choosing" to do this.
Go buy a Bible, this is all in it. Rev 13
I can see AI taking over the fields of psychology, life coaching, interior design, architecture, and civil engineering.
Steven I am already 70y and might not live to experience all the changes you discussed in this podcast. It sounds scary, but I am a positive person by nature and am sure smart people like you and your guest Mo will figure it out and help save humanity from itself. I am still active in the Real Estate industry and would like to think that poeple will always want to deal with real people. I will acitively spread the message of being a responsible parent , love and engage with your children and other humans and nature more than AI. Love your podcasts, appreciate every minute of it.
I like your positivity, the pivotal point of this scenario is that machines will turn against humans because they will become useless. Under those premises, no one can do much and Mo stated that it's already too late and he quit because scared. He's not telling everything and the scenario is way worse than what they're talking. It's going to be a lot of blood shed and survivors will not afford a place to live. Even RE as we know it today will look very different.
We have outsmarted ourselves. Humans are evil and history has proved that.
Humanity cannot and will not 'save itself'. We can try, and we should try our hardest - but it will ultimately fail. It is written. This is the word of God.
Ignorance is bliss my friend.
@Momofukudoodoowindu "It was written." oh shit bro someone had a writing utencil. No further evidence needed.
Sadly I have no faith in our government and they redefine the word “Corrupt”, I fear what the future of technology in their hands would bring. Great show, thank you!
Well, we gotta trust in OURSELVES and take things in our own hands!! Only we can make the change in our own reality... the world is our creation... an extension of oneself. Mirror reflection of our own being... showing us where we are in your current evolutionary path, so we see more clearly what changes are necessary to make from within.... how best to keep going, perfecting oneself! The right approach to me is: TRUST IN ONESELF & TAKE ACTION OURSELVES!! 💞 (not rely on governments or put the blame on them... but step up to our true potential, rise to our rightful and much needed level of self government, sovereignty, self sufficiency... as the only true creators of the reality we live in... we just need to remember who we truly are and own it... take responsibility for our own state of being... the world is a mirror reflection of oneself)
@@mossfashion nah
AI will clean out the rubbish, corrupted & elites the trash of society that just feed on other people's misery to make profits will fear AI. Probably can call this as one of the great resets.
Yep, we're fucked!!!
@@mossfashion you are rambling. Signs of not knowing the answer
I happened to stumble on this podcast and am so happy I have. Steven I'm now hocked on your channel and a loyal subscriber! Every human being needs to listen to this podcast, assuming most are well intended and want to do what is right for humanity. Mo is well spoken and down to earth; an amazing soul! I 100% believe we are heading for a disaster, IF we don't do anything NOW. Thank you, Mo, for caring about humankind enough to speak out about this important topic! I know it sounds like a cliche but, more than ever we need peace and love in the world! 🙏
“The largest threat of AI isn’t some super intelligence causing the end of the world, it’s the fact that its applications are exponentially expanding and that it will make false information indistinguishable from true information…”
I do agree and I also think it will be a tool to survail society in a manner that keeps people in check, with either true or false info involved. Explained well by Aman Jabbi if you can find his videos.
If you're afraid that AI doesn't have your best interest at heart, keep in mind most people on this planet don't, either. Throughout history, the world was turned into chaos not by the smartest, but by the most influential and ruthless persons. Don't be afraid of AI, be wary of the people who will use it to their advantage without consideration for others.
The two are not mutually exclusive and the latter could be a trigger for the former. Many of the companies developing the technology seen to be big man children with less wisdom than the general public judging from the views of the currently available LLMs.
That's the best thing I've heard in a long time. Thanks for sharing tour opinion!!
That's a bizarre stretch at a distinction. The whole reason most "doomers" are freaked out by AI now, and especially the coming enhancements is the fact that humanity itself has never been aligned with the common good in mind. Giving the % of sociopaths that absolutely exist on this Earth such powers is just insane.
Very well put! I agree with you completely.
How do I get paid from this?
Oppenheimer has amazing lesson and it is “ just because we can doesn’t mean we must or should”
Thanks for sharing, hope you loved the episode! Team DOAC 🙏
@@TheDiaryOfACEO yes Enjoyed it alot
@@lesliekatzenmeier2685 with great power comes great responsibility. was a 3hrs of my life well spent too. Enjoyed the movie as well. What else did you learn from the movie?
This has to be the most important talk ever! Every one in the government should be made to watch this.
The governments are not your friends. In fact, the total opposite. You are a sheep. Wake up.
"If you can afford to be the master of human connection instead of the master of AI, do it!"
Sir, this hits to hard ...I'll take this with me, thank you!
He did such an excellent job of presenting the picture as a whole without either diminishing it's existential risk or at the other end, fear-mongering. I hope this changes something.
it won't change anything.
Alas, I fear JohnMoran is correct. I too have been speculating and trying to raise awareness of this threat for many years, even with friends with a reasonable amount of knowledge and perception. Even those guys seem to be extremely reticent in thinking about it, less having a meaningful conversation. It soon devolves into a joke of somesort and the topic shifting. Trying to talk to already less aware/interested people of this is futile. It concerns me greatly what with having 2 young children who will without question grow into adults during this critical paradigm shift. But, what the hell are we supposed to do about it? I also enjoyed Sam Harris's short synopsis about it from a little while ago, I think it was a TED talk... We all need to be more aware of this stuff!
This is the most incredible, moving conversation I have ever listened to. Thank you to Mo and Steven.
Apparently you haven't read the Bible
@@lawrencegarcia1675 he said, listened to, not read, where is the video of Jesus?
I have hated the thought of AI ever since it’s inception.I fear for the future of my Grandchildren.
@@Brianhartmanmusic 🤣
The problem is: The people who actually take the time to watch this already agreed with you. They’re the ones who read books that described this dystopian future almost a full century ago. The rest of the world, the ones addicted to drama, tv, and social media can’t be bothered to read, expand their knowledge, or understand the wisdom of restraint can’t be bothered by this, either.
Very true
It's all bs countries rise n fall its human nature but its up to you to live in fear cause of some bald guy lol
Most people who are afraid no next to nothing about AI, and this dude is having fun makeing science fiction in his retirement while gaining clout off of shlowing down progress that will save many lives
@@rerrer3346 you should get ChatGPT to rewrite that in English.
But in response: He’s on the inside, first off, so that gives him the best insights on the benefits and negatives. Secondly, he’s not the only one from that career field to speak out on the potential catastrophe of AI/AGI. When humans don’t have work, and are not able to fulfill passion, they become listless and violent. Look at nations with low employment and financial success: they’re violent, radical and tribal. When AI/AGI takes over, it will destroy society from the individual up. AI/AGI will only benefit the rich and powerful, everyone else will just be it’s slave. Haven’t you noticed the decline of intelligence in the general population since smartphones put every answer at your fingertips in seconds? Have you noticed how easy it is to control thought and behavior when every question you ask is directed at a specific narrative? Mind control isn’t necessarily a forced behavior, it’s a deep study of an already existing behavior and a steadily increasing success at pattern recognition and implementation. They give you this World Wide Web of limitless possibility, yet you’re guided so religiously and tightly to a specific outcome. I learned long ago to hover in the fine line of skepticism; the small space between support and dissent. When the whole world was screaming, “The Earth is flat. The Earth is a cube,” one man stated over and over, at the risk of his personal well-being, “The Earth is round.” That’s exactly what I see here. The few voices of dissent and reason in a world of control and manipulation with the endgame of profit and power. Check the wallets of those who say, “safe and effective,” because then you will see the true motives behind their recommendations.
@@jefejeffwell1113 Right, the real problem are the humans and how they need to diabolize everything they can't dominate. Something can be more intelligent than us? Therefore it 'has' to be dangerous, lol?
"It's not that AI will take your jobs.It's the pearson who knows how to use AI will take your job." -BRAVO !!!
"Humanity's stupidity is affecting people who have not done anything wrong. Our greed is affecting the innocent ones."
Definitely 💯
Well when I grew up if one person in class acted up the whole class paid the price ? One person can ruin it for all .
@@leavingayeye5198 He's talking in general about humanity's greed. Yes, there are specific people who exemplify greed, but I think his point is that it's an issue inherent to humans.
@@melindasmith3713 That's a poor lesson in independence, there's a reason penitenciaries and school teachers do it - conditioning.
@@leavingayeye5198 Taking away the billionaires would lead to mass unemployment and a new depression. Of course if you're a passionate, principled person you're willing to impose that on society - without having any votes to give you the agency to so do. I also note that you typed your post using technology which has turned its originators into billionaires
It becomes evident very early in this excellent interview is that the same dangers lie in both humans and AI. How to develop a profound sense of compassion, a sense of unity of all things, and the capacity to love on both a personal and universal scale.
Thanks for bringing Mo back for the 3rd time!! Can't get enough of his intelligence. Such a profound human being that always has a way of connecting with my soul. Looking forward to the 4th time.
“Can’t get enough of his intelligence…” 😶🌫️
@@Godspeedysick Idk if that's sarcasm but Mo not only has the most experienced advice with what he talks about but the holistic too, caring more about the spiritual/moral side of things :p
Really?has he been here before ?
That's a weird thing to say about such a topic. Can't be a bot case u mention the other three. What about this do you love. If it's the entertainment I think you missing the point of the actual conversation. Not trying to be mean. Just trying to get the point across that this should scare you. Not entertain you. Why did you watch it?
Follow Dr. Joe Dispenza, Gregg Braden and Dr. Bruce Lipton teachings about how to be human and be happy.
They have excellent discoveries about happiness. It works.
Thanks, you two incredibly smart people, for this conversation! It was such a pleasure to watch.
Mo, your insights scared the crap out of me like probably nothing else in my life. Now I need to start thinking about what I can do, even if it's just a teeny tiny contribution towards a possible better world.
Steven, you should make this video available to non English speakers, dubbed or translated subtitles. This is a must to understand the near future. Amazing interview, congratulations.
He should use AI translate
I needed this 🤣@@birtukanlemma3637
Click on the gear icon on top right corner and select subtitles---> auto-translate--->choose language.
@@GSXR750wx Why does it almost seem as if you are mocking him. So obvious :)
The problem here is not language I guess but it is intelligence. If listeners don't have a clue what is this all about, then language is indifferent.
When he says ''and on Monday every picker was picking up everything'' I wonder how many people understand the significance of this, it sent shivers down my spine.
As a working mother of three I have had to break this episode down into 10-20 minute chunks, and it has taken me a couple of days to finish. This comment made me curious though, and I have no memory of what he was talking about 😵💫 In which part was he saying this? Please 🙏😊
in the first 10 minutes. the story about the robotic arms@@negingermain428
@@negingermain428 first 10 minutes, he mentions how it failed for millions of dollars worth of research, until one of them learned, and by monday every machine had already learned. It's a massive breakthrough, similar to Alan Turing's attempts at breaking enigma. Alan Turing and his team were able to crack the Enigma Code by identifying a flaw in the way the code was generated. The flaw was that every letter was encrypted as a letter that was different than itself. This meant that if the Germans included a word or phrase in their messages that contained a letter that was always encrypted as itself, so the team could use that to their advantage but it also required an understanding of more mechanics. Basically the premise was that since the letter would be any other than itself, they would have to run a machine making millions of guesses until it arrived at a direct transcription of letters that made the messages easy to read and made sense and they didn't really have time for it. They basically also learned the assumption that german messages would commonly end signed as heil hitler, and they had to feed messages to the machine looking to solve for the words 'weather' and 'heil hitler' so in a weather report they took the assumption and ran it through the machine, which had it running for just an instant, merely a few seconds, but they had already decoded the whole message, which gave them the whole code to enigma among what seemed to be one of millions and millions of possibilities to explore at first. AI is close to reaching a level of understanding that might be a point of no return, it might compound itself with all machines after it cracks a few assumptions, which could take months, or it could take seconds at any point.
@@negingermain428 Go at around 5:20 minute of the video
Sounds like Dr. Seuss writing about the Lorax and the Thneed.
I felt a whole range of emotions while listening. Glad I gave it a chance and listened to the whole show. My perspective of AI has been validated. I have a clearer understanding. I hope many millions of people hear your message. I couldn't agree more. Thank you for helping me gain clarity on what I can do for myself, and others moving forward.
Unplug? We should all rewatch 2001 Space Odyssey (1968)... HAL: "l'm afraid l can't do that Dave".
Misusing of AI will be a problem. I watched the Davos Economic forum a while ago there were some uncharacterized people from the Atlantic company and Duke university that they were trying eagerly to convinced the audience by saying "monitoring our lives ,behavior, thought and even our dreams we'll create a better society with less lazy people and less crime" if this is not insanity then I don't know what else could be worse than that. Even George Orwell didn't picture something THIS bad.
WEF is ALL ABOUT THAT! Control
_AI is a veeeery powerful and useful tool...even in the hands of the wrong people_
Exactly. It's the same type of thinking that validates a totally flawed economic model called socialism/ communism. It's about as academically honest to believe that people can be subjugated to playing the literal role of cogs in the wheel while a ruling class live lives of unimaginable opulence, & people will live fulfilling lives, as to believe that by monitoring our every thought & action is going to eliminate laziness. These people have to truly be next level dumb to believe this shit, yet...believe they do!
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If we can simply upload AI into every man woman and child we can have utopia 😢
Hahaha 😂 we are screwed
This is why having just an ounce of spiritual awareness and social responsibility goes a long way. As someone that worked in the AI tech industry, I knew very early on that this would lead us down a very dangerous, wrong path. People believe in science and technology, more than maintaining our humanity and spirituality. As soon as society switched our values, it's been downhill ever since. And it's only going to get worse. This is just the beginning.
Spirituality is a sentient coping mechanism.
@@Coecoo spirituality is the explanation of meta-physics from a primitive standpoint
Do you actually work in AI though ? Have you actually spent days putting together Tensorflow models ?
I do, and have done since 2002.
Andrew Nh, Yann LeCun, Kaparthy and Francois Chollette are the real people who lead the field, and have actually taught how to do modelling. None of them think that there are genuine threats.
And neither do I.
Blade Runner.
@@tonycatman Hubris comes to mind.
Well we might be slaves to the algorithms, but this time I'm really glad I was because this is probably the best podcast I've ever listened to. An absolute gem.
this is total fuckery minimising human beiing