the fact that the first call got the last translation wrong in such an interesting way really was honestly impressive. I think it made me understand having feelings of excitement when someone is clearly trying their best to learn your language
Perhaps you'd have received the expected reaction from strangers and people you don't know well. In this case, perhaps your family members/close friends are comfortable enough with you to simply say "Thank you": they can trust that you are being genuine with your praise.
During my first visit to japan I got “日本語は上手”’:ed by the guys next to me in a bar, and I knew so little japanese that had no idea what that phrase meant. I could literally just say what my name was and where I was from, and I could order two beers. I find it hilarious that they had to explain to me what “日本語は上手”’ meant, IN ENGLISH. =D
Using は there is very spicy of them... they be giving a back-handed compliment LMAO. Because in that case using は instead of が makes it sound like they're comparing your skill in Japanese to your skill in other things. So it's like saying "As for your Japanese (as opposed to other things), it is skillful." If you ever wanna turn a compliment into an insult, just tell a woman, "今日*は*かわいい" LOL. I guarantee your girlfriend will love it. The slaps you receive are slaps of joy, trust me. On the real, she would probs just respond with something like "what about the other days? Are you saying I'm not always かわいい?" (If you want to actually turn it into a compliment, you should say "今日*も*かわいい.")
something i've realized as i've studied different languages is that the more you learn, the more aware you become of what you still don't know. you never appreciate how tall the mountain really is until you climb it halfway and you know better than anyone that you still haven't reached the top. but...personally, i think its important to look back every once in awhile to see how far you've come too. halfway is still a pretty far way to have climbed, i think it's ok to be proud of it
I feel that too! Last month I ask politely to a Japanese if I could sit next to her -as in check if she wasn't waiting for anyone- and she was genuinely surprised. It made me want to practice more!
I think because they know you and are comfortable with you, it’s easier to say “Thank you”. Also, they know you can speak three languages (English being one of them) so when you say that “Your English is good”, they know that they are genuinely praised for it. With strangers, or people you don’t know that well, you would prefer to stay polite and not be arrogant. This is what I think anyway. By the way, when I get “日本語は上手”’ed, I usually say “いやいやいや、まだ勉強します”. And if they say it another time, then I take the bait “ありがとうございます、優しすぎです！😭” (In English or Japanese) Thank you for the video! It was really nice!
Person number 2 (the first girl) had such good pronunciation! It's interesting that the pronunciation was at such a high level while she was insecure about which words to say. I feel that it's usually the other way around, that people learn to say a bunch of stuff but pronouncing it in a funny way :P
I've been told that by so many people when I traveled in Japan! Exactly this "Nihongo Jozu desune!" and I replied with "Ie ie zen zen!" every time. I think it was a proper reaction
I always thought it odd that people think it disingenuous even tho most people across most cultures and languages do the same. Even if someone isn’t fluent, when clear effort has been made and you can tell what they are saying even though it’s not a language they are used to, it’s genuinely impressive. Especially for super complicated yet super different languages like english and japanese. If someone who has spent most of their life speaking japanese comes to the US on a trip and can communicate even a little and people can understand them, chances are, someone will tell them their english is good. They will mean it too! Sounding like a native speaker and genuinely impressing people on a level they would call “good” are not mutually exclusive. There are different types of good too. Good for someone new to a language isn’t going to mean the same as good even compared to native speakers, but both are still genuine forms of “good”. I always thought of it just being the same way anyone would tell someone speaking a language that they aren’t necessarily proficient in that they are speaking well. It’s not a lie, it’s just based on a different set of criteria than “native tongue” level of fluency. I am glad to see more people realizing this and putting the message out there to clarify for those who may not have thought about it like that.
Not all cultures are like this. For instance countries like the USA and Canada are very diverse, so you have to be careful who you say "Your English is great!" to. The person you're talking to might look Asian but still be a 5th generation American lol. I have also heard the Germans are very direct, even directly correcting foreigners' German mistakes, which is something that would be rude in many countries, but I think is actually quite helpful in terms of learning a language.
Probably related to the almost universal thing people who live in Japan say. The worse your Japanese, the more you get jouzu'd. The closer you are to native, you get treated with indifference. Though my least favorite isn't quite as talked about. On the same line as "you get treated as normal", are the very strange people who feel the need to correct any minor mistakes or differences in your language. I have never felt the urge to do this to people in English, and I've never seen it in my third language, Korean. It feels exclusively Japanese (in my limited knowledge tbf) and is super obnoxious.
This is heartwarming ❤ When I was learning English back in Sweden everyone was hypercritical of themselves and others so I remember lacking confidence and being really shy to try to speak English so I relate with them! It is amazing to put in the effort and learn a language so I love hearing people try their best! Any mistakes are just cute. ^^
Even though everyone said Thank you, they still did the typical Japanese thing of downplaying it. Like the guy said he’s not even good at Japanese lol. The girl said her English was all over the place. His sister was saying her pronunciation wasn’t great. But seriously they sounded great and their English was great! We should compliment and encourage each other when learning a language. Great video as always! :)
I finally watched a full video without any Japanese subs! Your clear pronunciation and interesting topics make learning so much fun. Thank you so much!
Person: 日本語上手！ Me: はい。日本人です。笑 I said this a few times now to people I knew would be fine with a joke and it went over pretty well. Lol. Thank you, Dogen! But, admittedly, I often default to, いえいえ！まだまだです！while rapidly flailing my hands back and forth. Im just gonna say thanks from now on. Thanks for this video!
@@NiekNooijens さらにうまくなると日本人なのに日本語が下手くそやんと言われる始末 And then the next level you get told you're horrible cuz they expected you were Japanese and confused at some point. (But only really stupid or mean people would say 下手くそ） A lot of people are just gonna assume certain things sometimes, well if you avoid language exchange and just talk to natives pretending to be Japanese or just don't go out of your way to mention about your nationality then some weird situations may happen sometimes. And in the end, Japanese people have no way to truly judge your language ability, since you are the only person will full control over it xD and you know what you know or don't know.
私は30年以上、時々日本語を勉強してきました。これは、続けるべき最高のビデオの一つです。ありがとうございます! I've studied Japanese off and on for a good 30 years. This is one of the best videos that needs to be continued. THANK YOU!!
It's funny how when I hear anyone else besides myself attempt at speaking a language it doesn't bother me and I'm impressed no matter how good they are just becase they tried. But when its ME I'm embarrassed befor I even open my mouth. 😅
Omg I feel this too!!!!! I have to start somewhere but there’s this overwhelming feeling of they’re gonna think I’m so bad and I’m gonna butcher words and maybe say something that’s completely off from the original meaning
This was the FIRST time i watched one of your videos without english subtitles AND I UNDERSTOOD IT!! Ok, not every single word, but most of it! Im so happy rn, thank you for speaking so clearly:))
That was so charming i can't, couldn't stop smiling throughout the entire video. Now i finally know what to answer if i ever get told that by a native so thank you so much! ^_^
Your friends and family did amazingly well! I don't know too many people I could randomly call and have them translate English into Japanese. Well done!
I’m basically the only classmate who could write and speak Japanese in my entire class, everyone else has only some knowledge of a random European language or just speak English
It's so funny to me that the best one at English was the most humble and didn't want to take the compliment, haha. Her pronunciation was really good, too.
Actually if I think back, when a Japanese spoke in Chinese. In just one sentence I was pleasantly surprised as well. I think sometimes we don’t expect another culture to take so much interest in our language so when we witness a foreigner speaking just one sentence of our mother tongue (we also assume that they can speak more than that) we are genuinely surprised and elated. I might also be inclined to say something like WOW you can speak Chinese?! Or at least that would be my thoughts
"wow you can speak Chinese?" is a very genuine and positive reaction. There's no problem with it at all. Now, if you tell them their Chinese is super good just based on a "hello", that's kind of insulting. Especially if they are really good. Imagine you spent 5-6 years learning and really making an honest effort and then smb just dismisses you after a "hello". It's like " well, that's good enough for you, foreigner. It's not like we have any expectations for you in the first place". Also, we all know if smb's level is really high we wouldn't be saying " your japanese/chinese/etc is good to them. Maybe one of their parents is Chinese if they are so good and the praise will be misplaced.
It’s funny, at the beginning of the video you were talking about how Japanese folks just get excited to hear a foreigner speaking Japanese. When you first said it, I thought it was kind of ridiculous, why would anyone feel that way? But! When your sisters were speaking English and getting it right… I was literally sitting here clapping for them, I was super excited to hear them speaking English even though it was pretty simple 😂 That’s when it finally made sense to me, the way I felt about your sisters speaking English, that’s probably how a lot of Japanese folks feel when they hear a foreigner speaking Japanese. And if I’m sitting here clapping for them when they get it right, I can only imagine that when Japanese folks say “日本語じょおず”, they must really mean it 😊.
The second friend had good pronunciation ! I always feel bad that I didn't study Japanese enough and I cause inconvenience to store owners when I visit Japan. Because I am Asian but not Japanese... then both of us a flustered and try to communicate in English. I love to communicate with locals more.
Being able to understand the Japanese despite me being a beginner feels like magic! I have been learning by myself for less than a year but i have a japanese friend who helps me out online, we met through a online videogame! おのまっぷさん、ありがとう！
I thought people were just being polite when they praised my Japanese until I talked to a Japanese person who was trying to learn English and I found myself genuinely meaning it when I told her that her English was really good because compared to my Japanese her English was amazing. Please make a video on how to get better at listening to Japanese! When people speak faster I can’t even pick out any words 😭
I always love your videos for showing us the real response of the Japanese. Just get curious if your friends already know that they would be in the UA-cam video because you called them quite oftenxD.
Pretty much every Japanese language and cultural learning video I’ve watched tells you to be humble and deflect when a Japanese person tells a foreigner that their Japanese is good. That way they don’t come off as arrogant. I’m surprised to hear from this small survey that 100% of English learners sampled respond with a thank you when they are told their English is good.
Learning languages is hard, and even in places like Germany they seem impressed by my child level knowledge. Because, like you mentioned, they understand that our culture doesn't expect or encourage learning other languages. So when someone learns it it's often through great effort and respect.
your videos have lot of quality, they are very enjoyable, fun and I like your personality. I tell you this, I come watch your vidos mainly because I want comprehensible input in japanese but thats not all, I really like the way you speak and engage with us, it kinda feels like you are here by my side speaking to me. Once in a while I find some youtubers who are able to do that, I really like it, it doesnt feel 100% scripted even it is, it feels genuine and has a human touch to it. Great job! 次のビデオを楽しみにしてる。
Impressive! I was thinking that they wouldn't accept the praise . Really glad that they do it , they put effort on it so deserve the praise , even if it's not perfect. On the same time , if (or when , i'm optimistic ) i become "nihongo jouzu again , i will accept it because i will be happy. Last time it was so hard to act like i was not happy about it , even if it's just one praise . (it mean all of the effort to learn japanese on my own , with no teacher and all , far from perfect was indeed usefull! I know it's far from perfect but like one friend said: "When i'm climbing the mountain , i must not look at the mountain , but at the rock who are in the way "
Learning a new language is hard, and hearing people encourage you for even trying is so wholesome! I know enough Japanese to hold a super basic conversation (things I like, things I can do, weather, getting directions) but would ABSOLUTELY still be flustered if someone told me “日本語は上手です！” I’d probably go “いいえいいえ,私は日本語を練習します！” Because my vocabulary isn’t incredible yet. ^^;
I've been thinking about this exact question last night when I went to sleep and this video pops up this morning. What a coincidence for real, Igot jouzued recently twice and it really felt somewhat wrong. Your video made me rethink my attitude, thank you!
I think that maybe they're answering with 'thank you' because they know that Hitoki can actually speak english. Maybe if it wasn't someone that can speak english they would have given different answers.
@@christoffer9652 normally, the compliment you receive from somebody who has either learned alongside you or started at the same pace as you is kinda different than receiving it from a stranger that you've just met. When my Japanese friends compliment my Japanese, I normally say thank you because I know that they've watched me struggle and that they've answered a ton of my questions. But I am a bit shy when someone immediately tells me that my Japanese is great even though I've only said "hello" lol
I think "jouzu" is an usual compliment in Japanese. Maybe, instead of saying "oh wow that's really cool" they say "jouzu desu ne" to express their impression. My Japanese teachers say "jouzu" a lot even though you just do a simple thing likes answering a question correctly. So maybe in some situations, "jouzu" is just an expression. Yeah 😗
@@tain_107 lol we know it's an intended compliment--that's why the entire point of the video was how to respond to said compliment. This comment thread is talking about why the answers are different than what he was expecting--it's probably because they're friends/family and not strangers.
I never quite understood why Westerners got annoyed at "日本語上手ですねー”, as an Asian born in Australia people bloody assume my English is horrible by default or will say "Wow your English is so good, how long have you been in Australia?". It's the same, I'm sure everyone has said "Your English is good" and you were impressed because learning a language is hard and you appreciate their effort to learn your language. Anyway, great video ひときさん！ Had me smiling the whole time like most of your videos.
The problem isn't the praise, the problem is when every japanese person tells you your nihongo is jouzu simply because you were able to say "yoroshiku onegai shimasu" their praise becomes worthless. Praise is good when it's actually deserved. Imagine seeing an adult eating and praising them "wow you eat so nice, good job!"
I'd think it's largely generational. I teach Japanese people of all ages. Most of the older generations don't accept compliments well; younger generations generally show more thanks rather than rejecting compliments. And good on all those you talked to! They all did well :)
I'm studying japanese kaiwa right now so i'm watching some of your videos that i haven't watched before. I really think i can learn a lot from you because you speak slowly and clearly 🙂
I usually don't know how to respond to praise or compliments, it seems as weird to me as others can lol. tysm the video! I love all your content❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
本当に面白かったです。this reminded me of a tv show i watched once that did an experiment where a large group of people were asked to complete a task. the people that did the task well received criticism, while the people that did badly received encouragement. later when they were asked to do the task again the people that were encouraged did the task better and the people that were criticized did the task worse. i understand its important to be humble, but i think we cant help but say thank you when someone compliments us. it makes us feel good and makes us want to try harder. positive reinforcement is the best motivator, i think
When I get 日本語上手ed, I just reply “ありがとうございます、まだまだですけど”. Btw you can see some small flicks of cultural differences in the video: #2 was very cold on the phone, usually me and my friends (Japanese friends included) when picking the phone will reply with a “ohh hi how are you etc” instead of a simply “hai” to “um”, and before hanging the phone again, “hai” Almost felt like she was being interrupted when you called her and wanted to hang as quick as possible…
Loved seeing everyone’s reactions, especially of your first friend! 😆 he’s always so fun. If Pimsleur Japanese level 1 has taught me anything, I should say something like, “ありがとうございます。でも、良く上手じゃありません。まだまだです。”
Yes! It's funny that people studying Japanese sometimes end up being much more humble than Japanese people because they learn the most polite way of putting themselves down. A lot of young Japanese people nowadays seem to just accept compliments normally and don't take a super humble approach lol Also that should be あまり上手じゃありません。 not よく
Side note I’m actually impressed that many people took time out of their day to answer! Not sure if it’s just me but I feel like a lot of people in my generation (I’m 21) prefer to text than call. Just like he was saying about everybody being busy with their own things I feel like it’s so hard to get someone at a good time to pick up the phone! I personally prefer calling if I can’t meet face-to-face but that seems a rare commodity these days 👁️👄👁️
I love this video! Especially the first half🤣 After living in Japan for over a year now I've gotten used the whole 日本語上手 compliment and just receive it. But I'm wondering if anyone has gotten the "わ～発音きれいじゃん" compliment? Don't mean to brag but I have. 皆さん頑張ってね～ ひときさん、動画をいつもありがとうございます。
Cute video. It's good that you catch them just as they wake for their most natural response! ^^ First time in Japan I ended up with a short exchange with a waitress along these lines Your「ありがとう」is いいで えっ、、ありがとう？
Thank you for this video! I recently signed up for a language exchange app so I could get in some live practice, and I've been keeping this in mind when Japanese language partners compliment my language skills. Instead of trying to contradict them, I'm thanking them and noting I still have a lot to learn. :)
I ALWAYS love your video I feel like watching anime and you make my Japanese better، Because I learned it from the anime by myself Your videos are very helpful for me 😭💙💙
Everybody did very well! Especially #2, her pronunciation was really good.
ikr I was surprised how good her pronunciation was after not wanting to do it
I noticed that too it sounded very natural
Did you just 英語上手 all of them?
@@Chisegh Uno reverse card
I think so
the fact that the first call got the last translation wrong in such an interesting way really was honestly impressive. I think it made me understand having feelings of excitement when someone is clearly trying their best to learn your language
Perhaps you'd have received the expected reaction from strangers and people you don't know well. In this case, perhaps your family members/close friends are comfortable enough with you to simply say "Thank you": they can trust that you are being genuine with your praise.
That's a good point.
I think the same.
just what I was thinking.
そうですね!
@@peachycakes8004 わかんない
During my first visit to japan I got “日本語は上手”’:ed by the guys next to me in a bar, and I knew so little japanese that had no idea what that phrase meant. I could literally just say what my name was and where I was from, and I could order two beers. I find it hilarious that they had to explain to me what “日本語は上手”’ meant, IN ENGLISH. =D
Using は there is very spicy of them... they be giving a back-handed compliment LMAO. Because in that case using は instead of が makes it sound like they're comparing your skill in Japanese to your skill in other things. So it's like saying "As for your Japanese (as opposed to other things), it is skillful."
If you ever wanna turn a compliment into an insult, just tell a woman, "今日*は*かわいい" LOL. I guarantee your girlfriend will love it. The slaps you receive are slaps of joy, trust me. On the real, she would probs just respond with something like "what about the other days? Are you saying I'm not always かわいい?"
(If you want to actually turn it into a compliment, you should say "今日*も*かわいい.")
@@GodisgudAQW hahaha yeah I see your point, though i believe they didn't actually use the particle, and I just mistyped it above :)
@@GodisgudAQW thats good to know 😂
Lol same!! This lady jouzu'd me and then she had to explain to me what it meant lol!!
@@GodisgudAQW have you been watching Japanese Ammo with Misa?
2nd girl: nooooooo, my English sucks
also her: (speaks with great accent)
me: huh???
something i've realized as i've studied different languages is that the more you learn, the more aware you become of what you still don't know. you never appreciate how tall the mountain really is until you climb it halfway and you know better than anyone that you still haven't reached the top.
but...personally, i think its important to look back every once in awhile to see how far you've come too. halfway is still a pretty far way to have climbed, i think it's ok to be proud of it
This made me so happy to hear that Japanese people are genuinely proud of us learners even if we're over critical of ourselves 😭 its hard out here
I feel that too! Last month I ask politely to a Japanese if I could sit next to her -as in check if she wasn't waiting for anyone- and she was genuinely surprised. It made me want to practice more!
I think because they know you and are comfortable with you, it’s easier to say “Thank you”. Also, they know you can speak three languages (English being one of them) so when you say that “Your English is good”, they know that they are genuinely praised for it.
With strangers, or people you don’t know that well, you would prefer to stay polite and not be arrogant. This is what I think anyway.
By the way, when I get “日本語は上手”’ed, I usually say “いやいやいや、まだ勉強します”. And if they say it another time, then I take the bait “ありがとうございます、優しすぎです！😭” (In English or Japanese)
Thank you for the video! It was really nice!
"まだ勉強します" sounds a bit unnatural to me. I personally go with いえ、まだまだです or まだこれからです。
Person number 2 (the first girl) had such good pronunciation! It's interesting that the pronunciation was at such a high level while she was insecure about which words to say. I feel that it's usually the other way around, that people learn to say a bunch of stuff but pronouncing it in a funny way :P
I've been told that by so many people when I traveled in Japan! Exactly this "Nihongo Jozu desune!" and I replied with "Ie ie zen zen!" every time. I think it was a proper reaction
今回も面白かったです🤣😂
うれしい😆
The 2nd girl actually did amazing. Nice pronunciation, almost like a native.
I always thought it odd that people think it disingenuous even tho most people across most cultures and languages do the same. Even if someone isn’t fluent, when clear effort has been made and you can tell what they are saying even though it’s not a language they are used to, it’s genuinely impressive.
Especially for super complicated yet super different languages like english and japanese. If someone who has spent most of their life speaking japanese comes to the US on a trip and can communicate even a little and people can understand them, chances are, someone will tell them their english is good. They will mean it too! Sounding like a native speaker and genuinely impressing people on a level they would call “good” are not mutually exclusive. There are different types of good too.
Good for someone new to a language isn’t going to mean the same as good even compared to native speakers, but both are still genuine forms of “good”.
I always thought of it just being the same way anyone would tell someone speaking a language that they aren’t necessarily proficient in that they are speaking well.
It’s not a lie, it’s just based on a different set of criteria than “native tongue” level of fluency.
I am glad to see more people realizing this and putting the message out there to clarify for those who may not have thought about it like that.
Not all cultures are like this. For instance countries like the USA and Canada are very diverse, so you have to be careful who you say "Your English is great!" to. The person you're talking to might look Asian but still be a 5th generation American lol.
I have also heard the Germans are very direct, even directly correcting foreigners' German mistakes, which is something that would be rude in many countries, but I think is actually quite helpful in terms of learning a language.
Probably related to the almost universal thing people who live in Japan say.
The worse your Japanese, the more you get jouzu'd. The closer you are to native, you get treated with indifference.
Though my least favorite isn't quite as talked about. On the same line as "you get treated as normal", are the very strange people who feel the need to correct any minor mistakes or differences in your language.
I have never felt the urge to do this to people in English, and I've never seen it in my third language, Korean. It feels exclusively Japanese (in my limited knowledge tbf) and is super obnoxious.
This is heartwarming ❤ When I was learning English back in Sweden everyone was hypercritical of themselves and others so I remember lacking confidence and being really shy to try to speak English so I relate with them! It is amazing to put in the effort and learn a language so I love hearing people try their best! Any mistakes are just cute. ^^
The way he speaks about things, makes Japan such a wholesome place. He is one of the few channels I feel so so happy after watching.
Even though everyone said Thank you, they still did the typical Japanese thing of downplaying it. Like the guy said he’s not even good at Japanese lol. The girl said her English was all over the place. His sister was saying her pronunciation wasn’t great. But seriously they sounded great and their English was great! We should compliment and encourage each other when learning a language. Great video as always! :)
"Thank you" is such a kind way to respond to a compliment. There's no punishment or feeling bad for giving a compliment that way.
私も、いつも「いえいえ、そう言うことじゃないですよ」って言っているんですけど、みんなすごくポジティブな答えをしていたのはすごくいいと思います。今からそう言う風に答えするかな？。。。面白い動画を作ってくれてありがとうございます^^
I finally watched a full video without any Japanese subs! Your clear pronunciation and interesting topics make learning so much fun. Thank you so much!
Person: 日本語上手！
Me: はい。日本人です。笑
I said this a few times now to people I knew would be fine with a joke and it went over pretty well. Lol. Thank you, Dogen!
But, admittedly, I often default to, いえいえ！まだまだです！while rapidly flailing my hands back and forth. Im just gonna say thanks from now on. Thanks for this video!
If you get better eventually it will become いつから日本に住んでいますか? (How long have you been living in Japan)
And I always have to respond "住んでいません。" (I don't)
Sou sou. "ya, ya, madamada desu!" tte, karuku ojigi wo shite... Everyone has always been very fond of seeing that reaction. :) 😇
@@NiekNooijens さらにうまくなると日本人なのに日本語が下手くそやんと言われる始末
And then the next level you get told you're horrible cuz they expected you were Japanese and confused at some point. (But only really stupid or mean people would say 下手くそ）
A lot of people are just gonna assume certain things sometimes, well if you avoid language exchange and just talk to natives pretending to be Japanese or just don't go out of your way to mention about your nationality then some weird situations may happen sometimes. And in the end, Japanese people have no way to truly judge your language ability, since you are the only person will full control over it xD and you know what you know or don't know.
私は30年以上、時々日本語を勉強してきました。これは、続けるべき最高のビデオの一つです。ありがとうございます!
I've studied Japanese off and on for a good 30 years. This is one of the best videos that needs to be continued. THANK YOU!!
It's funny how when I hear anyone else besides myself attempt at speaking a language it doesn't bother me and I'm impressed no matter how good they are just becase they tried. But when its ME I'm embarrassed befor I even open my mouth. 😅
Omg I feel this too!!!!! I have to start somewhere but there’s this overwhelming feeling of they’re gonna think I’m so bad and I’m gonna butcher words and maybe say something that’s completely off from the original meaning
This was the FIRST time i watched one of your videos without english subtitles AND I UNDERSTOOD IT!! Ok, not every single word, but most of it! Im so happy rn, thank you for speaking so clearly:))
That was so charming i can't, couldn't stop smiling throughout the entire video. Now i finally know what to answer if i ever get told that by a native so thank you so much! ^_^
実際で日本人の反応から教えてくれるのは本当にいいアイデアですね。
ありがとう〜
I love the fact that the first friend you called always seems to be clicking away at his computer :'D
Your friends and family did amazingly well! I don't know too many people I could randomly call and have them translate English into Japanese. Well done!
I’m basically the only classmate who could write and speak Japanese in my entire class, everyone else has only some knowledge of a random European language or just speak English
whoa that 2nd friend's english is really good! there is absolutely no need for her to be so humble/shy about it.
It's so funny to me that the best one at English was the most humble and didn't want to take the compliment, haha. Her pronunciation was really good, too.
Actually if I think back, when a Japanese spoke in Chinese. In just one sentence I was pleasantly surprised as well. I think sometimes we don’t expect another culture to take so much interest in our language so when we witness a foreigner speaking just one sentence of our mother tongue (we also assume that they can speak more than that) we are genuinely surprised and elated. I might also be inclined to say something like WOW you can speak Chinese?! Or at least that would be my thoughts
"wow you can speak Chinese?" is a very genuine and positive reaction. There's no problem with it at all. Now, if you tell them their Chinese is super good just based on a "hello", that's kind of insulting. Especially if they are really good. Imagine you spent 5-6 years learning and really making an honest effort and then smb just dismisses you after a "hello". It's like " well, that's good enough for you, foreigner. It's not like we have any expectations for you in the first place". Also, we all know if smb's level is really high we wouldn't be saying " your japanese/chinese/etc is good to them. Maybe one of their parents is Chinese if they are so good and the praise will be misplaced.
@@MrGianeta bro ranted 💀
It's a compliment usually geared towards tourists. If you're studying or working in Japan they won't say that unless you're really good.
I love how you explain things and back everything with actual examples!
Love your videos, thank you very much :)
Loved this video, listened to it while I was folding laundry and it made me laugh several times 笑
It’s funny, at the beginning of the video you were talking about how Japanese folks just get excited to hear a foreigner speaking Japanese. When you first said it, I thought it was kind of ridiculous, why would anyone feel that way? But! When your sisters were speaking English and getting it right… I was literally sitting here clapping for them, I was super excited to hear them speaking English even though it was pretty simple 😂
That’s when it finally made sense to me, the way I felt about your sisters speaking English, that’s probably how a lot of Japanese folks feel when they hear a foreigner speaking Japanese. And if I’m sitting here clapping for them when they get it right, I can only imagine that when Japanese folks say “日本語じょおず”, they must really mean it 😊.
so wholesome 🐱
Perfectly said. Especially when you hear someone switch from their native tongue
The second friend had good pronunciation ! I always feel bad that I didn't study Japanese enough and I cause inconvenience to store owners when I visit Japan. Because I am Asian but not Japanese... then both of us a flustered and try to communicate in English. I love to communicate with locals more.
Being able to understand the Japanese despite me being a beginner feels like magic! I have been learning by myself for less than a year but i have a japanese friend who helps me out online, we met through a online videogame!
おのまっぷさん、ありがとう！
I thought people were just being polite when they praised my Japanese until I talked to a Japanese person who was trying to learn English and I found myself genuinely meaning it when I told her that her English was really good because compared to my Japanese her English was amazing.
Please make a video on how to get better at listening to Japanese! When people speak faster I can’t even pick out any words 😭
私は日本のケーキ屋さんで働いていますので、時々日本語を話しています。
例えば商品の値段や商品の期限日やなど話しています。お客様が日本語がお上手ですねと褒めてくれた時、私はお客様のおかけで、新しい言葉を勉強するようになります。と言いました。
本当のこと言えば大丈夫ですか？
日本語勉強していた時、先生から教えたことがあります。褒められた時、「いえいえ、まだです」という教科書に載っていました。 毎回毎回「いえいえ、まだです」と言ったら面白くと思います。
勉強するように返事する時会話によって変わっています。
大丈夫ですかね。
The second girl's pronunciation is excellent. They all did great, really.
this video was rly fun ^^ I rly like the "experiments" to see ppls reactions ^^
I always love your videos for showing us the real response of the Japanese. Just get curious if your friends already know that they would be in the UA-cam video because you called them quite oftenxD.
Pretty much every Japanese language and cultural learning video I’ve watched tells you to be humble and deflect when a Japanese person tells a foreigner that their Japanese is good. That way they don’t come off as arrogant. I’m surprised to hear from this small survey that 100% of English learners sampled respond with a thank you when they are told their English is good.
I kinda know what you mean but you can also say thanks to be respectful and still deflect the compliment after i guess?
Learning languages is hard, and even in places like Germany they seem impressed by my child level knowledge. Because, like you mentioned, they understand that our culture doesn't expect or encourage learning other languages. So when someone learns it it's often through great effort and respect.
oh my god the basis of this video is my entire thought process THANKS FOR THE VIDEO I NEVER KNEW I NEEDED
also your english is better than mine wth 😭😭 I didn't even think about the "up" to correct it to "show up on UA-cam"
your videos have lot of quality, they are very enjoyable, fun and I like your personality. I tell you this, I come watch your vidos mainly because I want comprehensible input in japanese but thats not all, I really like the way you speak and engage with us, it kinda feels like you are here by my side speaking to me. Once in a while I find some youtubers who are able to do that, I really like it, it doesnt feel 100% scripted even it is, it feels genuine and has a human touch to it. Great job! 次のビデオを楽しみにしてる。
今までこっちに日本語を勉強になりました。優しい日本語で伝えるし、わかりやすいです☺️
すごい動画だね。こんな素晴らしい動画がユーチューブに珍しいだと思う。声が聞き取りやすいです。
It’s been a long day🙄.. You have a healing smile and this was a refreshing video ☺️🍃☀️ ありがとうございました！
Impressive! I was thinking that they wouldn't accept the praise . Really glad that they do it , they put effort on it so deserve the praise , even if it's not perfect.
On the same time , if (or when , i'm optimistic ) i become "nihongo jouzu again , i will accept it because i will be happy. Last time it was so hard to act like i was not happy about it , even if it's just one praise . (it mean all of the effort to learn japanese on my own , with no teacher and all , far from perfect was indeed usefull!
I know it's far from perfect but like one friend said: "When i'm climbing the mountain , i must not look at the mountain , but at the rock who are in the way "
Interesting experiment! I'm glad you did it. The lady who went second, her accent was very good.
Learning a new language is hard, and hearing people encourage you for even trying is so wholesome! I know enough Japanese to hold a super basic conversation (things I like, things I can do, weather, getting directions) but would ABSOLUTELY still be flustered if someone told me “日本語は上手です！” I’d probably go “いいえいいえ,私は日本語を練習します！” Because my vocabulary isn’t incredible yet. ^^;
love the way you talk, the energy and acting is great
Holy shit how is #2's pronunciation and accent so PLEASANT.
Been waiting for your videos
Always the best😁😁❣️
I've been waiting for you to comment 😄
@@Onomappu 😁😁
I've been thinking about this exact question last night when I went to sleep and this video pops up this morning. What a coincidence for real, Igot jouzued recently twice and it really felt somewhat wrong. Your video made me rethink my attitude, thank you!
二人目がいやだーっていったのに英語の発音はすごく綺麗でびっくりした
I think that maybe they're answering with 'thank you' because they know that Hitoki can actually speak english. Maybe if it wasn't someone that can speak english they would have given different answers.
If a Japanese person tells you that your Japanese is good, obviously you know that they can actually speak Japanese, since they are Japanese
@@christoffer9652 normally, the compliment you receive from somebody who has either learned alongside you or started at the same pace as you is kinda different than receiving it from a stranger that you've just met. When my Japanese friends compliment my Japanese, I normally say thank you because I know that they've watched me struggle and that they've answered a ton of my questions. But I am a bit shy when someone immediately tells me that my Japanese is great even though I've only said "hello" lol
I think "jouzu" is an usual compliment in Japanese. Maybe, instead of saying "oh wow that's really cool" they say "jouzu desu ne" to express their impression. My Japanese teachers say "jouzu" a lot even though you just do a simple thing likes answering a question correctly. So maybe in some situations, "jouzu" is just an expression. Yeah 😗
@@tain_107 lol we know it's an intended compliment--that's why the entire point of the video was how to respond to said compliment. This comment thread is talking about why the answers are different than what he was expecting--it's probably because they're friends/family and not strangers.
@@VioletnIndigo okay lol I just agree with you guys
「いいよ褒めなくても」っていうのでめっちゃ笑ってたw w w
Just discovered your channel. In love with your Japanese and subtitles! Easy to catch for listening practice and shallowing. どもありがとうございます
"internet surfing" may not be 100% correct but it sounds more natural.
ありがとう👍
surfing the internet. surfing the interwebs. surfing the web
@@Onomappu Nihongo Jouzu!
no one says surfing the internet anymore though
@@witchofbabylon5021 true but nobody just says "I like the internet"
Really..this is what i want to know right now 😭👌
Thank you for making this video!!💪 Next time i will use this! 👍
This channel is my favorite. Keep up the good work!!
when he said "internet" he became a different person for a second.
I lived in Japan for 11 years and heard 日本語上手ですね！ so many times that on an off day I’d just respond with そうですね 😂
I never quite understood why Westerners got annoyed at "日本語上手ですねー”, as an Asian born in Australia people bloody assume my English is horrible by default or will say "Wow your English is so good, how long have you been in Australia?". It's the same, I'm sure everyone has said "Your English is good" and you were impressed because learning a language is hard and you appreciate their effort to learn your language.
Anyway, great video ひときさん！ Had me smiling the whole time like most of your videos.
The problem isn't the praise, the problem is when every japanese person tells you your nihongo is jouzu simply because you were able to say "yoroshiku onegai shimasu" their praise becomes worthless. Praise is good when it's actually deserved. Imagine seeing an adult eating and praising them "wow you eat so nice, good job!"
I'd think it's largely generational. I teach Japanese people of all ages. Most of the older generations don't accept compliments well; younger generations generally show more thanks rather than rejecting compliments.
And good on all those you talked to! They all did well :)
初めての友達の声はとても美しい😆🥰💜💙
Keep up the good work man. We love u 🔥🔥🔥💙💙💙💙
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@@Onomappu lol
ありがとうございました😍😍
I'm studying japanese kaiwa right now so i'm watching some of your videos that i haven't watched before. I really think i can learn a lot from you because you speak slowly and clearly 🙂
I usually don't know how to respond to praise or compliments, it seems as weird to me as others can lol.
tysm the video! I love all your content❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
本当に面白かったです。this reminded me of a tv show i watched once that did an experiment where a large group of people were asked to complete a task. the people that did the task well received criticism, while the people that did badly received encouragement. later when they were asked to do the task again the people that were encouraged did the task better and the people that were criticized did the task worse.
i understand its important to be humble, but i think we cant help but say thank you when someone compliments us. it makes us feel good and makes us want to try harder. positive reinforcement is the best motivator, i think
When
I get 日本語上手ed, I just reply “ありがとうございます、まだまだですけど”.
Btw you can see some small flicks of cultural differences in the video: #2 was very cold on the phone, usually me and my friends (Japanese friends included) when picking the phone will reply with a “ohh hi how are you etc” instead of a simply “hai” to “um”, and before hanging the phone again, “hai” Almost felt like she was being interrupted when you called her and wanted to hang as quick as possible…
I think it’s just a sibling relationship/personality thing :-) Plus it seemed like they see each other often
I just found your channel. It's so adorable and wonderful to watch you.
ビデオがいつもめっちゃ面白いです。次のも楽しみにしています。
Aw, what a cute video! Everyone who knows Dogen and his YT channel must watch this!
私はいつも"お世辞でも嬉しいです"と答えます。そう言うなら世辞のことは認めるながら自分の嬉しいさも伝えられると思います。
I love your videos!!! keep up the good work!!!!
興味深い動画ありがとうございます。 友達からそう褒められたらどう反応すればいいか分かって嬉しいですね！でも目上やかなり年上の人からきたらどんな反応が相応しいかまだちょっと悩んでます ww
Best call to like and subscribe I've ever seen, brilliant! : D
Thank you for the fun times! Another great vid
えー？！私はいつも「いや、全然そんな事ない」と答えるけど！日本人ってすごい！
確かにいい動画でした！勉強になりました、ありがとうございます🙇🏻♀️
I finally can understand your videos fully without English subtitles that’s when I feel 日本語上手😂
I like your videos, my japanese not so good, but I can listen you and learn smth new in each video! Thank you!
This is too wholesome.
Love your videos! Always interesting and fun.
I love you. You’re always interesting and fun!!!
こんにちは。私はベトナム人だよ。日本に来てもう1年間3ヶ月だったよ、日本語の会話を上手になりたいけどまだまだね。今回、初めてこのチャンネルを見るんですけど、すごく面白くて、すごく聞き取れやすいよ、それで勉強のやる気が出てきていたよ。チャンネルを登録して、よく見たいと思っています。ありがとうございます。これからも色んなビデオをしてね
Loved seeing everyone’s reactions, especially of your first friend! 😆 he’s always so fun. If Pimsleur Japanese level 1 has taught me anything, I should say something like, “ありがとうございます。でも、良く上手じゃありません。まだまだです。”
Yes! It's funny that people studying Japanese sometimes end up being much more humble than Japanese people because they learn the most polite way of putting themselves down. A lot of young Japanese people nowadays seem to just accept compliments normally and don't take a super humble approach lol
Also that should be あまり上手じゃありません。 not よく
Your japanese very easy to hear and understand
Wow the second friend's English sounds so pleasing.
lovely video! i love it when you call your friends in videos haha
Side note I’m actually impressed that many people took time out of their day to answer! Not sure if it’s just me but I feel like a lot of people in my generation (I’m 21) prefer to text than call.
Just like he was saying about everybody being busy with their own things I feel like it’s so hard to get someone at a good time to pick up the phone!
I personally prefer calling if I can’t meet face-to-face but that seems a rare commodity these days
👁️👄👁️
日本に居た時、そう言われました。 友達が “日本語上手だね” と言った時、私は “いやいや、まだまだです” と 返事しました。 友達が “ありがとう と返事したほうがいいですよ” と言いました。 私の返事は 古いだと言われました。 動画のように “ありがとう” と返事したら、褒めてくれる人も嬉しくなります。
「日本語大丈夫？」I had to pause the video, I was cracking up when you said that. 🤣
I liked the first guy's reaction best I think *write's this down for the next time I go to Japan*
このトピックほんとに便利ですありがとう
I love this video! Especially the first half🤣
After living in Japan for over a year now I've gotten used the whole 日本語上手 compliment and just receive it. But I'm wondering if anyone has gotten the "わ～発音きれいじゃん" compliment? Don't mean to brag but I have. 皆さん頑張ってね～
ひときさん、動画をいつもありがとうございます。
Cute video. It's good that you catch them just as they wake for their most natural response! ^^
First time in Japan I ended up with a short exchange with a waitress along these lines
Your「ありがとう」is いいで
えっ、、ありがとう？
二人目の女の人の発音めっちゃ自然で上手だった！
Thank you for this video! I recently signed up for a language exchange app so I could get in some live practice, and I've been keeping this in mind when Japanese language partners compliment my language skills. Instead of trying to contradict them, I'm thanking them and noting I still have a lot to learn. :)
Aw, that was really cute!
勉強になりましたああああ。
ありがチュー
I ALWAYS love your video I feel like watching anime and you make my Japanese better، Because I learned it from the anime by myself Your videos are very helpful for me 😭💙💙