Vision Pro - Why I Wish I Could Return it (but can't)
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- Опубліковано 26 лют 2024
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The titles of these vids became kind of a clickbait type lately: Why I can't return it? Coz it so good. Apart from the fact that the outcome is the opposite what you would expect the review is as good as ever...
really? shocking sarcasm included. To survive on yt unless younare truly truly genuine and ppl love you the clickbait is a given. As they used to say “everybody is doing it”
Lately? Are you new here?
That being said, the click-bait titles are fun if you know what they are and are a regular. I enjoy the videos.
Thanks for saving me 12 minutes! I love Max and Vadim but I avoid their clickbait wherever possible…
@@kwameryan so you dont watch any more videos on youtube i guess, if you avoid clickbait
You just mad he doesn’t hate it and you can’t afford it 😂
Title: "Why I wish I could return it." Conclusion: "I can't return it because it's awesome!" Literally the definition of clickbait.
youtube got us all here, guess his bait worked , lol , and i enjoyed his energy and speech regardless, SUBBED
@@willywatkins-zh9xd Yep, but it's more the whole bait and switch aspect that I have a problem with.
1 week later… „I was wrong about Vision Pro“ 😂
Lol, you know Max Tech too well.
Yes, the UA-cam world went crazy for this product but the real world did not give a shit about it. I have not heard anybody talk about wanting it or even interested in trying it out
Where do you live?
@@k.vn.k Los Angeles
tell me you live in a poor country without telling me
I mean it’s only available here in america, so idk about “the real world”. I think once it releases globally, it will gain more attention
@@alexx960no he is right. Many people in US didn’t give a crap either. It is just too expensive for a novelty device with not so many yet great apps. Apple should have priced this at $2000 or something in that range. Unfortunately at the current price rate not many people are buying it just mainly apple tech people and businesses.
"people looked at me like normal." no, no they didn't.
😂
They looked at you normal, but as soon as you left, you were the laughing stock off the rest of their day. 😂
I’m so self conscious that I would feel like a weirdo with those on a plane 😂
Just turn on an environment to block out the world around you, and also wear airpods pro 2 with the noise cancellation
@@alexx960 no
@@mrf9893 Pls?
I was going to return it until I tried it in my Sprinter Van. It’s incredible, I can work in my van just as well as in my home office. The Vision Pro Mac screen in the maximum resolution is like having a giant monitor in the van. I can now really work productively while I’m traveling around in my van. It’s absolutely essential for van life.
Totally agree.
1) Make a cheaper version.
2) Allow group experiences where one person imitates the share and anchors the screen, then invites other’s to participate. So movie nights can be shared screen experience.
Even at 1,500$ price tag, this product would have put a bigger dent into the whole VR Headset market! I really am waiting for a more affordable non-pro version because for me watching content is one of the best things on VR .. I simply love how amazing UA-cam VR is on the Quest 3 .. or even Prime VR, I watched the entire "The Flash" movie yesterday night on Quest 3 and seriously, the experience has been incredible!
Great video! I just got mine this week and used it for one day. After not using for a couple of days, i found myself missing it and haven't been able to put it down since. This headset is so cool😊
When using the connect to Mac on the airplane are there a lot of disconnections? Does it work over Bluetooth instead of WiFi?
All I can say is I'm grateful for the first generation buyers like you. You guys supporting it will definitely help get it into the hands of more people eventually. Until then, I'll keep watching these videos and get more excited for when I and so many others will be able to buy a future version! Keep up the truly awesome work!
Yw 🫡
I nearly fell off my chair laughing when he said 'glassholes' so casually. That's brilliant! 🤣🤣😂😂
The Apple version is called a Vision Bros.
Hmmm so you don't actually want to return it but wish you could?
I returned mine - and I regret it. I miss it so much .
Are you a youtuber? According to data, most of the small youtuber mainly does that buy and return in hope for more views and money from youtube
facial computing has a long way to go before most of us use it in the day-to-day
Hardware is definitely the next level compared to anything else that you're used to.
The real problem with it is that is uncomfortable to wear and bare boned softwares library. A wider field of views might make it better though
Are you going to try xreal air 2 ultra and comp-air it ?
A future, smaller see-through AR model would be incredible. Processors in the frames? Chips have to shrink considerably. I tried the first Hololens, and Magic Leap, and while true see-through was magical, it was a borderline useless experiences overall in my opinion.
I returned mine - it's going to be ubiquitous in 2-3 versions and I look forward to buying it again in the future, but for what it does now, it's just not worth the $3,800 for me.
I tried it at the Apple Store. My biggest takeaway is that it felt so “normal”. Most VR headset feel like you’re entering this virtual, technical room with some sub par system and menu experience, and big glimmering fuzzy pixels. But the Vision Pro felt incredibly normal. It was very easy to embrace and accept.
The only thing I was finding technically questionable was that the hand tracking and hand masking seemed to lag two or three frames behind. If the throughput is 12ms. The hand tracking should be 12ms. Perhaps they slow it down to interpolate between frames in order to reduce jitter? I hope they can improve this in future firmware. It was kind of obvious.
I was surprised at how noticeable the difference in FOV between the Vision Pro and the Quest 3 is. Also, with Quest, I can type on the keyboard at a reasonable hunt and peck speed. On the Vision Pro, there is no chance of it working. The lack of visual and audio feedback is really holding it back.
I've already want to use it, but is not yet available at my country, I'll ask for a friend to bring me one on april; I really want to star experiencing spacial computing.
I think device is amazing. The only thing that prevented me from buying it, is uncertainty when next one will be out. If in 3-5 years it's ok. But if in 12-18 months, how I can even get rid of old device?
I'm an airline pilot and I'm the impression that pilots will eventually fly with something similare one day. Specially if they could link it to an infrared camera to see through clouds during the approach in low visibilty. That could save a lot of lives by avoiding CFIT (Controlled flight into terrain).
Don't they use a HUD for that?
Wow this was a good one. I missed it yesterday because I had so much work to do, but just watched now, and it struck me as a very genuine honest review. Definitely great info!
Also, some honest input: thanks for taking everyone’s feedback about the volume of your voice Max. While it never bothered me per se, my dad (an older guy😁) immediately noticed the difference in this video and said “I actually felt calmer and more content!” Pass this on to Vadim as well, it definitely made a difference for him!
Great video, and after using it for a while now for working also I totally agree that it's not really dystopian, it's really connective with others because instead of looking down at a phone (or a laptop) you are seeing what is around you better - and also that EyeSight is really key to how successful this is with others around you really being normal with you wearing it. I've not flown with it yet but am really looking forward to that the next time I fly! I'm not sure Apple has to deliver a newer device sooner than two years though, I think with software updates and new software they can keep the excitement going. It is going to be amazing to see this evolve.
Honestly, I'd rather talk to my wife with her face buried in her phone than attempting to do so while she was wearing any of these godawful contraptions. Eye and facial cues are important during communication and I just don't see that coming through with the Apple (or any other) headset. I still don't see a use-case for VR headsets beyond games and media consumption and a $4K price tag makes it a luxury item at best. I think we're still two or more generations away from a truly useful, non-intrusive VR device.
I am holding out hopes that the future Apple Glasses will be a reasonable price and have some of the features the Vision Pro's have. I don't mean with all the cameras and stuff, but wouldn't it be something if your going down the road and you can see directions and blue lines on the screen showing where you want to go. what your speed is and so much more?
If its over a grand it won't be me, but some where in the $500 dollar range I may seriously be interested.
Thinking of using instead of a 5k2k monitor with Mac Studio or Mac mini
My biggest con is the significant reflection/glare that I see when watching media in cinema / dark immersive environments. I don’t see any creators mentioning it but I’ve switched light seals and tried another demo unit at an Apple Store and I still see it. I wish someone had some feedback / tips for this. The workaround for me has been using lighter immersive environments but I want to use cinema and the theatre Disney plus environments.
Couldn’t agree more on everything said on this video. Consider the source and how you’ll use it.. it’s a productivity device for me!
That was the intention that VR would low up with Apple - mission accomplished
Wish I could listen to this video without being forced to listen to the music. Any chance it could be lower in volume or deleted altogether? Anyway, I realize it’s an expensive product, but I love the APV and have had no desire to return it. I’ve been using it for over four weeks now.
That ‘Glassholes’😂
Given your experience, it would make sense or Apple to develop a one-handed chordal” keyboard. These have been tried before, but they never caught on.
Wait for the accessories later both left and right side are large thunderbolt 4 these are more modular than they look. We will get a gen2 headband with battery and usbc in the future but if they don’t hamstring it we can have really cool upgrades In the future. I love mine but come on Microsoft you have teams but no authentication app to use it with enterprise environments.
i think main limitation of these devices to shine is wireless data transfer to become consistent and huge bandwidth comparable to thunderbolt 4 then we wont need huge headsets all the computing can be provided by mobile devices which will also evolve up with better cpu and gpus , once get rid of cable then its all ergonomics , lens quality and mostly software which apple excells in the market.
3:50 Never thought about that! Great observation!
atlast the best review I watched.
Overall its an amazing gen1 concept device. But i feel that in its current state, it feels more like an ipad in that its more niche and you the user have to find ways to make it work for you, rather than it being like a watch airpods or phone that naturally fit into one’s lifestyle.
Samsung, facebook, amazon-your move: whats next?
I can't believe so many people have commented and said that Apple doesn't have a generous return policy, what more do they want?? 14 days to try literally anything and take it back as often as you like, no questions asked! I don't know what people expect these days.
Two realities:
-normal people who care about money and life
-influencers who live for relevance
I like the form factor but I would like to see developers get more access to making custom apps. I am trying to build a custom app for my business but the developer tells me that although the device is capable of doing what I want, Apple limits access to some key features to allow for my desired functionality.
What lofi song was used at the start of the video?
I can bet anybody right now. That is thinking about returning their apple. Vision pro or has already done it months down the road or even a year from now software updates are gonna come out that is gonna change this headset even more and some people are gonna regret returning it
You said a few things there, Imagine if LIDAR was present and the discoveries that could be made that were previously unseen, and or being able to read hieroglyphics in real time or other ancient forms of writing.
Great video. I was shocked by the amount of vitriol coming from the PC/android side. WTF? Apple entering the market is a win for everyone. They are clearly going after the high end market which leaves room up and down the spectrum. Remember it’s the Porsche and Mercedes buyers that enabled the crash avoidance and automatic braking features to be in Honda and Toyota.
Isn’t the resell value greater?
Get well soon
I’ve used it for 20 days. (Returned.) I noticed that I used my Mac way more than having a headset on. I’ve used the Samsung VR and I have the Meta 2 rn. The Apple Vision Pro put such a strain in my eyes that I had to put the device down to let my eyes rest and that was only 30 mins of usage, I’m use to looking at a display but when its up to your face and you have to use your eyes as the pointer, hurts. It’s cool easy but when you have to pay attention to what you actually have to select it starts to get annoying. Going back to a meta 2 was weird but also but eyes aren’t hurting or giving me headaches like crazy. I like floating windows don’t get me wrong but it’s like I’m waking up to 100 things I gotta do around once I put it on. I like it but once it’s lighter and better. I’ll consider it. More useful things on meta then Apple rn due to it being there first headset device, once they get to a 3rd gen hesdset it’ll blow up.
The AVP reminds me of Steve Martin's invention in the movie the jerk (opti-grab). Lot's of people bought them but after use became cross-eyed.
@@pickledpeppers1577awesome comment! Who would have thought that it could relate to something today. I’m waiting to see how long term use of this device ruins people’s eyes. At least it won’t be me 😂
“Why I keep my Apple Vision Pro and expectations for the future” is a way less click bait
Getting over 1M subscribers did not reduce the clickbait for these guys.
Increasing the pass through speed would be great to a minimum of 120 fps but preferably increasing the display frame-rate to 160-240 so there’s no disconnect between you and the world. Doubling or tripling the battery would also be great
That's gonna need a HUGE leap in chip efficiency and battery technology. Progresses like this are not coming anytime soon.
Higher fps would cause more health problems like motion sickness, migraines, and etc.
@@alexx960 Why does this hpapen
VR is a different ball game. Frame rate is only important as how fast you can turn OFF the pixels.
OLED has blur in VR because you can't turn off the pixels fast enough, so your brain gets the wrong image for the wrong position (even for only 12ms)
I wish it would be thinner as sunglasses in the future
I am a massive Apple fanboy I want one so bad;y
Clickbaity title and I foresaw the twist of not being able to return because it actually rocks, but watched anyway and got a nice month-after insight. Cheers!
Now where’s my iPad Pro 2024 clickbait hype-reel??!! Bring it! 😂😂😂
The only reason UA-camrs bought it was to gain views, it was never their intention to keep it
I returned it.. the biggest reason was the lack of low light use
It's the most cyberpunkish accessory ever and even if you're ok seeing other ppl around you and their facial expressions, imagine all of you wear it and you don't see no face expression no more. What's next, an Apple product projecting a face expression of yourself to others? It's crazy if you think about being in an environment with those on, except for the office or maybe some dedicated places. The distraction from the surroundings after using the goggles for some time, like in the example you gave when you sat in the airplane, is another risk.
In another two weeks, new video title: "I was WRONG"
vibe: i kissed the VR event horizon and i liked it
"I really enjoy watching the videos, but I have some concerns about the Vision Pro product. While I understand that it's important to invest in quality equipment, I don't think the Vision Pro is worth the high price tag. It's over-hyped and doesn't deliver on its promises. There are better, more affordable options available that can provide the same value without breaking the bank. I would suggest doing some research and comparing products before making a purchase."
I returned it because (1) the headset is just heavy and hurts your neck if you wear it more than 30 minutes, even with the different headband and (2) there is not enough apps or content for it besides watching movies on Apple TV or using it as a virtual display there’s not a lot. (3) pass through is better than other headsets on the market but not clear enough to read small text on your phone, still pretty grainy. (4) just not worth the money for what you are getting (picture clarity is the only thing this headset does amazing on)
Wish reviewers would hit on these points more because these are the products biggest downfallsz
The title of this video... such lowly clickbait. Expected more from you guys. You don't need to do that to get me to watch your videos.
I just got a oneplus12 in.... My god lol its better than both iphone 15 pro max and S24U... Never thought it would be lol now i regret having bought the other two
Cloud gaming is good on this
I wonder when Samsung is going to step into the market. I almost think that they can though, because I don’t think they have the tech or integration to do it well enough. For example, Samsung doesn’t have its own mainstream OS on both computers and phones, and mainstream hardware implemented in all their devices. This pretty brilliant on Apple’s part now that I am thinking about it.
The question is how long will it take for all this technology to be compressed into a contact lens? I’ll give it less than a decade.
By 2030. It'll come with the world government and the Anti Christ, you guys have been warned. JESUS loves you 🙏
Contact lense is no way a decade try 5 minimum. Glasses however maybe 1 to 2 decades
@@davidveneroso9886 I made that prediction, because we are not on a linear path it is exponential. You can’t judge the timeline based on current technology advancement rate TSMC is preparing a 2 nm node with an all-around gate, and theoretical have already advanced into the pico meter. That’s only with human engineering.
Love your videos but apple’s return policy is anything but generous considering the 14 day return period (in the US) when pretty much every other retailer has a 30 day window
No retailers have 30 days except for amazon prime
@@JordonL480 yeah cuz best buy doesn't exist
True some have longer ones, but others have gotten a lot more picky with restocking fees and needing to have a good reason to return. Apple has been doing no questions asked no fees etc.
I’m sure you’ll write it off as a business expense so it was basically free for you anyway
I hope one day we can use those 360 photos you can or used to he able to make with the Google camera. I have several of those that would be cool to use. But I suspect since Apple never had this feature there won't be the option? Maybe there might he a way for third party Apps to do it?
Unless apple makes the iPhone Pros double as a MacBook with macOS apps that can use the Vision Pro as a display I see no point in traveling with the extra bulk of the headset. It just isnt worth it unless you are a total tech geek whose goal is to spend the entire time immersed online. But even then it will just add to the bulk since you have to carry the MacBook or iPad anyway. This years iPhone A18 Pro chip will officially beat the M1 chip by quite a margin then why not make the iPhone a tiny MacBook replacement for people terminally on the move?
Buying a beta product. What could go wrong?
"Vision Pro - Why I Wish I Could Play Games on It (Real games...but can't)"
I will wait for sub $1000 version. Maybe won’t get that cheap and that’s ok. I’m not paying that much for this. The apple tax is ridiculous!
What's the point where he says why?
Are you going snowboarding?
Commenting from Phoenix myself, hope ya had fun out here in the desert🌵🏜️
as a apple fan the price of the vision pro is the biggest turn off for me too expensive
Because it's stupid - there are no 'killer apps'
Of course you wish u can return it. You always do that no matter how much you actually like it, you just don’t like the price.
Why I wish why I wish I happen to could maybe return it.
Does it work with prescription glasses?
You have yo get the zeiss inserts to match your prescription.
Ill take it off your hands lol
Imagine using it in public with a macbook in full immersion. Then realizing later that the mac was gone by a thief
Haha that would suck.
I think it needs to be clarified, just because you don't know how to do something on another device, doesn't mean they can't do it. There have been a hundred videos showing how other VR and MR devices can do all the same stuff as the AVP at a fraction of the price. Stop living in a bubble...
Airpods we're normal because there was Bluetooth ear pieces before
I thought it was amazing watching someone turn their normal video drone into a fpv drone. With an enormous screen so they can see both the drone and what the drone sees at the same time.
Very cool need to try that!
@@MaxTechOfficial he used his MacBook in conjunction with this IPhone. There is a video on it on UA-cam.
I live in the San Francisco Bay Area and I haven’t seen these on the street or anyplace else yet. It’s a toy for people with too much cash. Why strap this silly thing to your head when I can pull my phone out of my pocket?
They would get taken from you on the street there.
So why do you wish you could return it? Because it’s so amazing?
It would be one thing if Apple had released AVP the size of the Bigscreen Beyond but this form factor is way too bulky even for a 1st gen in my opinion. It might make sense as a internal lab prototype on their way to their final production form factor. To compare it to the 1st gen iPhone doesn't seem right to me either. I would totally have bought a 1st gen iPhone if I wasn't such a cheapskate but I would not buy the AVP even though I can afford it. I dunno where this is going to end up going but hopefully in the direction of the BigScreen Beyond or even the AR Glasses like Xreal and such.
1:19 ain’t the bad press good?
Yup I think I mentioned it later on in the video unless it got edited out :)
@@MaxTechOfficial exactly 👍🏻 you did
I could never afford 3500 thats crazy
what if the flight is over 3hrs...dead battery?, or Powerbank.
Most, if not all, major airliners now have either USB or outlets for power. Just plug in and keep going the whole flight if you want.
The big Lightning connector on the battery pack 😂
You can just plug any power bank into it and supplement the power. Or even your laptops usb-c output into the Vision Pro's battery.
‘After the pee’
Before watching the video, I was thinking you wouldn't want to return it, because it is new content for the channel. Apple will constantly push out new features for the Vision Pro. So for you reviewers to not have the device at hand would be disadvantageous to your channel. All the current and future Vision Pro videos will pay off the cost of the product anyways...unless you're doubting this, which is why you wish you could return it? To be frank, even if so, it's rare for Apple to just introduce a new product like this, so even at a monetary loss, it would still do wonders for the channel in terms of current tech relevance.
I think all these videos of justifying your purchase of the device or why you're not returning can just summarized as " because I am a tech reviewer." I mean there was another tech youtuber that has to somehow justify why they need to a buy the top-of-the-line Vision Pro with maxed out storage. No need to justify it to us. You are a tech reviewer. This part is obvious.
As a suggestion, what would really help is if we can get the perspective of the average person when it comes to buying the device...granted it's $3500, so probably no.
But I will say, if you want to get some good content for the Vision Pro, maybe try to create a cool full screen setup with it. I'm talking about taking a seemingly empty room, and then when you wear it, you'd have apps floating everywhere, like a full virtual studio setup.
Just a fruit for thought. :)
VR headsets seem cool but a novelty product still. It does the same things laptops do, and often worse. Multiple screens at 50 inches is great for business and work use surely, but for everyday consumption a tablets and laptops seem better
Completely agree with your conclusions - a computer with two 4k screens plus the VR software in my carry-on would be worth almost the current price. Writing might be difficult but a virtual swiping keyboard could work OK as long as nobody is standing too close 😂 I’ll wait for a 3nm chip and a drop in the price but I can see it being great value for money 🤞
Be real, you wrote this off as a business expense
I think 3-4K is a lot for anyone to have to spend on new tech, but I also see potential in this tech that no other device on the market possesses. Ppl want to justify the price for the potential they see in this device. I honestly think with a few over-the-air updates & the addition of a few crucial apps, this device is right back in consideration. Once a lighter, more inexpensive form factor is introduced, I see the market responding immediately.
Great video! I’ve had mine a little over three weeks and love it! It’s definitely replaced my TV, iPad Pro, soon my MacBook Pro, and I’m even using my Mac studio much less. Most of the issues I have with it are software based that I know will be updated sooner than later. Just like when any new Apple product comes out, tons of people say it’s pointless and don’t understand it and within a year own it. I remember people not getting the iPad, and being furious when Apple took a CD drive away in the MacBook Air ha ha. This version 1.0 is definitely not for most people but I’d say by version 2 to 3 it will have cannibalized tons of products.