The biggest negative with VR glasses is that they will ruin your eyesight because eyes are focused at the same distance all the time. Eye muscles become lazy
For the sharpness: The reason that the VisionOS system / native apps look sharper is because they have bigger fonts and the UI rendering is optimized for Vision Pro. For resolutions Vision Pro has fewer resolution than 5k/6k displays. It’s a hardware limitation
So far it’s best use case I see is a portable movie theater, nothing else comes close, especially if the movie is in 3D. Not sold on the productivity part yet.
Give it time. The Vision Pro has only been out two weeks and most developers never even got a chance to touch a real one until February 2. A desktop simulator is one thing. The real device is another.
0:20 the screen size is a moot point. Pixels per degree people! Using the AVP is just worse than most every display. MKBHD uniformed video “reviews” got people tricked. 😩
I'm guessing that the Vision Pro can mirror MAC PCs. However, in all the reviews, I have only seen the floating bubble saying 'Connect' above MacBooks. Does anyone know if this floating bubble also appears above Mac Minis?
Really hoping you guys take a look at the Immersed Visor when it comes out! Looking forward to more of these headset/productivity reviews from you guys.
I still can't believe that none of these reviews mention the reflections in the lenses when there is any sort of dark environment. The times I've seen it mentioned it's like it's not that noticeable or a small thing, but with mine, it's very noticeable. Is it possible some of these units are worse than others with the reflections, or are reviewers just ignoring this issue for some reason?
I tried the demo last week to see how it works in terms of increasing my work efficiency. I rely on the Apple ecosystem and really expected some level of improvement in my workflow with this device. However, the features Vision Pro provides are far from that. It’s like spending $3,400 for a portable 3D movie theater. Hopefully, Apple improves it to meet those expectations you mentioned in the near future. Thanks for sharing such informative content!
Actually the XReal is far more practical with a longer usage time. It connects to iPhone , iPad, Mac , Android for example with just a simple usb c cable . And it weighs 75 grams on the face.
Can the single monitor available on Vision Pro display all the available desktops. I currently use a MacBook Pro plus three monitors plus 3 or 4 desktops on each. Each having a different app. Since most apps are available on iPad that aspect is simple but can I have the Mac only apps open on separate desktops in Vision Pro or is Vision Pro also limited to a single desktop on a single monitor?
No, it picks whatever is selected as the main monitor. You can bump up the resolution to a 4K display if the original isn’t (e.g. MBP display is closer to 3K) by going to the Mac’s Display Settings. I suspect the reason is bandwidth. People have reported latency between a bluetooth keyboard and the Mac, so I think Apple is restricting the feature to one monitor for now until they can figure something out. It’s reported they have two monitors working in the lab, but no word on performance. Other headsets can do two or three displays, but for the most part, they have very low resolution with a combined fewer pixels than a single 4K display, such as the XReal glasses Max mentioned. I have one of those from when they called themselves NReal, and the resolution is really bad.
No it only replaces the main display and isn’t that sharp compared to physical displays. Very disappointing and I might be returning my Vision Pro because of that.
I think the next step would be 360 degree bendable MacBook because with the actual Macbooks today the screen looks quite annoying while using it with Vision Pro and Apple would still want to sell a whole Mac instead of just a keyboard. Hopefully the screen then gets touch.
Have you tried the 5K resolution on your Mac? You have to click show all resolution on Mac display settings and 5K resolution is available, it give you a humongous display.
Yes, if you make the size very big and look closely enough. I believe it’s still transmitting in 5K resolution. And by the way the default resolution for video mirroring is 5K, not 4K.
I noticed an oddity with regards to the Lightning versus USB-C AirPods Pro 2. When I have my MBP’s screen up on my Vision Pro, I cannot connect my USB-C APP2 to my Mac to play its audio, while the Lightning version connected to the Mac quite easily. I suspect it has to do with that unknown band on the APP2 USB-C that enables lossless audio that latches on to the Vision Pro and won’t let go. The USB-C version doesn’t even appear half the time in the list of available sound sources on the MBP and if it does, I click on it, it spins for a while, and may end up disappearing from the list. Oh, and Max, don’t forget to enable travel mode before your plane starts to leave the gate or else your Vision Pro won’t be very useful. Apple should put a button combo to enable travel mode without needing to go to Control Center because it may fly away from you the second the plane starts to move.
I’d say it would be hard to keep it still, because every time you move your head, it moves. Quality screen would be a big thing for me too. I have an 86 inch TV and I’d probably get the same thing on that only better.
What's something that you thought you would use more and didn't (ie Spatial Camera and pictures) and did you not use it because of time constraints or once the hype wore off you didn't think it was worth your time?
Can you have audio coming from the Vision Pro speakers and Mac audio going to earbuds or does it not let the Vision Pro play audio through the speakers and the Mac through airpods when connected together? Or is there any earbuds that can play audio from multiple sources simultaneously?
Love your videos Max, but one thing that concerns me with all these UA-cam videos in the lack of content around eye safety and just how your eye's respond once the headset is taken off after a while in the headset and you return to the real world, and if over time all will suffer the same problem that optometrist are concerned about - and that is the number of people that they see with regards to shortsightness in regards to phones, iPad etc. ( I include myself in this, by the way). Remember this is not a TV in which you sit a recommended distance from in relation to the size of the TV, you literally have 2 4k screens sitting inches away from each eyeball, that can't be good in the long run, anyway sounds like a revolutionary product and I'm glad you like it, though I have to say not for me, not because of what I have mentioned above, but I just would not have the workflow to justify the expense (I am from Australia, and the Vision Pro will retail around $5,300 Dollars by the time it is released in Australia, when that is is anyone's guess.) I Don't want to sound like a wet blanket, but I just wish UA-camrs when reviewing gadget like this inform people of the Health risk associated with these product. Anyway Max, good review as always, keep up to good work, and this is just my opinion anyway. God Bless David
I'm also curious about the long-term effect for the eyes with AVP. I mean many hours a day and using it for years. Same thing about all the other similar headsets of course. Why did Apple and Tim Cook never talk about that on the WWDC keynote? Just look at iPod many years ago and probably the same thing on iPhone: there's a limitation for volume to protect your ears. That's very important when you have speakers in your ears. And now with displays maybe 1-2 cm in front of your eyes, and your eyes getting exposed for that light and I don't know how many nits. But is that really healthy for the eyes in the long run?
They say Pretty much everything Apple makes worth it even something ridiculously overpriced that’s still a beta product with barely any relevant apps or use cases. 🤦
This thing is completely worthless at the moment, it could be used only for replacement of the MacBook's screen. Otherwise it's just a toy like an iPad (compared to MacBooks), unfortunately
@@leghtim1 I have an iPad Pro with M1 chip. And it's useless compared to same M1 chip on a MacBook. I cannot work on it, but I would like to as same as I could on a Surface Pro. It's completely artificial restriction. I do mobile apps development
Like I say before, they have to use MacOS on the Vision not iPadOS. And yes it’s bandwidth limited, for 4k@120hz RGB 4:4:4 u will need about 30gbit/s over hdmi 2.1. So with that WiFi 6 u can get about realistic 1gbit/s. Multiple streams from your Mac are unreal. The best way is to connect directly. But with that costs I can buy 5x 42 inch 4k Oled Screens. So it is not worth it.
I’m disappointed at the quality of the display when used with the MacBook Pro. It definitely is not as sharp as my 42 inch LG display and I don’t prefer the Vision Pro display. It really needs multiple displays for it to be useful. I do like using the Vision Pro for watching movies but for work on the Mac I don’t think it is that good and I’m seriously considering returning it since I don’t think I’d use it much for work.
Apple users think a $4000 VR headset is cool but until it is made by another company, the price becomes too much. Like who the hell pays $4000 dollars for a headset whe I could get the razer blade 16.
Quest 3-512gb,16ft usb-c vr link cable,elite strap with battery,2 touch plus controllers, charging dock and extra silicone face pad .. All in is $1000/USD on Amazon.. I get chat, rec room,UA-cam,Netflix,and real games! Hard pass to AVP..When they offer that and more ,maybe then I’ll buy! Oh and watching movies is just fine.. The one and only thing AVP has going for it right now is higher resolution..Soo ,which one is truly superior,the most complete package? : hint ; it’s not Vision Pro!
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The biggest negative with VR glasses is that they will ruin your eyesight because eyes are focused at the same distance all the time. Eye muscles become lazy
For the sharpness: The reason that the VisionOS system / native apps look sharper is because they have bigger fonts and the UI rendering is optimized for Vision Pro. For resolutions Vision Pro has fewer resolution than 5k/6k displays. It’s a hardware limitation
So far it’s best use case I see is a portable movie theater, nothing else comes close, especially if the movie is in 3D. Not sold on the productivity part yet.
Please compare MBP M2 Max (12c/g30) vs MBP M3 pro (12c/18g)
waste of money; get the visor by Immersed instead for productivity
I think it would be cool if DJI had a native app to the Vision Pro. Imagine controlling your drone with an immersive view? 🙌🏾
😮😮😮
@@codythep Yes!
Give it time. The Vision Pro has only been out two weeks and most developers never even got a chance to touch a real one until February 2. A desktop simulator is one thing. The real device is another.
Wow what an idea
“Mommy why is that man staring at me?” Mommy says, “Oh he’s probably just looking at his virtual display. Don’t worry, i doubt he’s recording us.”
No he uses the new x ray App and looks at mommy...
Buy two 42” OLEDs for $900 each and save money, and avoid eye strain and radiation on your head. 😃
I'm afraid his getting addicted to it... F man :/ but good tip! 2 OLED for 900
Can the vision pro be used as a monitor for a mac mini? Or just macbooks?
You can use it headless with no monitor with Mac Mini or Studio Ultra. Just connect manually through the control panel.
Apple should release a Glasses device that's lighter and cheaper and focuses on multi-monitors. I wonder if that will be their next product?
Man is just a really expensive gadget ..... I can't wait to people said, "Oh my minimal set up for my $4000 vision pro. "...
0:20 the screen size is a moot point. Pixels per degree people! Using the AVP is just worse than most every display.
MKBHD uniformed video “reviews” got people tricked. 😩
These are very innovative goggles but I will probably never buy them, at least not at that size.
Also dude take it off when you're talking to us! It's getting creepy...
This was really good and informative. Thanks Max!
I’m definitely gonna want to get me one of these as soon as my budget allows.
Just looks really dorky, looks like you're going scubadiving.
I'm guessing that the Vision Pro can mirror MAC PCs.
However, in all the reviews, I have only seen the floating bubble saying 'Connect' above MacBooks.
Does anyone know if this floating bubble also appears above Mac Minis?
No but you can connect manually from the control center and even use it headless with no external display.
Really hoping you guys take a look at the Immersed Visor when it comes out! Looking forward to more of these headset/productivity reviews from you guys.
I still can't believe that none of these reviews mention the reflections in the lenses when there is any sort of dark environment. The times I've seen it mentioned it's like it's not that noticeable or a small thing, but with mine, it's very noticeable. Is it possible some of these units are worse than others with the reflections, or are reviewers just ignoring this issue for some reason?
That’s all headsets with these pancake lenses, you either adapt the environment and setup to get less drastic contrast or you just get used to it.
Is it possible to connect with a Vision Pro to a M1 Ultra Studio without a connected display?
Yes, you can run it headless.
Well on our way to WALL-E.
I tried the demo last week to see how it works in terms of increasing my work efficiency. I rely on the Apple ecosystem and really expected some level of improvement in my workflow with this device. However, the features Vision Pro provides are far from that. It’s like spending $3,400 for a portable 3D movie theater. Hopefully, Apple improves it to meet those expectations you mentioned in the near future. Thanks for sharing such informative content!
Actually the XReal is far more practical with a longer usage time. It connects to iPhone , iPad, Mac , Android for example with just a simple usb c cable . And it weighs 75 grams on the face.
Can the single monitor available on Vision Pro display all the available desktops. I currently use a MacBook Pro plus three monitors plus 3 or 4 desktops on each. Each having a different app. Since most apps are available on iPad that aspect is simple but can I have the Mac only apps open on separate desktops in Vision Pro or is Vision Pro also limited to a single desktop on a single monitor?
No, it picks whatever is selected as the main monitor. You can bump up the resolution to a 4K display if the original isn’t (e.g. MBP display is closer to 3K) by going to the Mac’s Display Settings. I suspect the reason is bandwidth. People have reported latency between a bluetooth keyboard and the Mac, so I think Apple is restricting the feature to one monitor for now until they can figure something out. It’s reported they have two monitors working in the lab, but no word on performance. Other headsets can do two or three displays, but for the most part, they have very low resolution with a combined fewer pixels than a single 4K display, such as the XReal glasses Max mentioned. I have one of those from when they called themselves NReal, and the resolution is really bad.
No it only replaces the main display and isn’t that sharp compared to physical displays. Very disappointing and I might be returning my Vision Pro because of that.
I think the next step would be 360 degree bendable MacBook because with the actual Macbooks today the screen looks quite annoying while using it with Vision Pro and Apple would still want to sell a whole Mac instead of just a keyboard. Hopefully the screen then gets touch.
The answer is NO.
Have you tried the 5K resolution on your Mac? You have to click show all resolution on Mac display settings and 5K resolution is available, it give you a humongous display.
*Does switching the Mac resolution to 5k in AVP make it look sharper than 4k in AVP?*
Yes, if you make the size very big and look closely enough. I believe it’s still transmitting in 5K resolution. And by the way the default resolution for video mirroring is 5K, not 4K.
@@ZE3kr the default resolution connecting your MacBook display to AVP is less than 4k. You have to select 4k or higher in resolution settings.
@@rocketmunkey1Vision Pro has a position system. When I say distance it means the distance in virtual reality.
@@bushgreen260That’s actually 5k. 2.5k is the logical resolution, with @2x.
I want to buy it. I think it is really cool. But it just looks way to dumb to me😂😂😂😂😂. Pro display XDR is good for now
That's all well and fine, but your hair is a mess! Such a bulky product. I just don't get it. But whatevs...
This technoly isnt ready
I noticed an oddity with regards to the Lightning versus USB-C AirPods Pro 2. When I have my MBP’s screen up on my Vision Pro, I cannot connect my USB-C APP2 to my Mac to play its audio, while the Lightning version connected to the Mac quite easily. I suspect it has to do with that unknown band on the APP2 USB-C that enables lossless audio that latches on to the Vision Pro and won’t let go. The USB-C version doesn’t even appear half the time in the list of available sound sources on the MBP and if it does, I click on it, it spins for a while, and may end up disappearing from the list.
Oh, and Max, don’t forget to enable travel mode before your plane starts to leave the gate or else your Vision Pro won’t be very useful. Apple should put a button combo to enable travel mode without needing to go to Control Center because it may fly away from you the second the plane starts to move.
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You are getting addicted to this thing man... I really hope you are taking breaks
Please, please, it looks awfully weird when a popular UA-camr wears diving goggles all the time….
I’d say it would be hard to keep it still, because every time you move your head, it moves. Quality screen would be a big thing for me too. I have an 86 inch TV and I’d probably get the same thing on that only better.
What's something that you thought you would use more and didn't (ie Spatial Camera and pictures) and did you not use it because of time constraints or once the hype wore off you didn't think it was worth your time?
Can you have audio coming from the Vision Pro speakers and Mac audio going to earbuds or does it not let the Vision Pro play audio through the speakers and the Mac through airpods when connected together? Or is there any earbuds that can play audio from multiple sources simultaneously?
I think your the very first person who's made this review wearing the device. 👌🏽
try opening 2-3 desktop to see whether it can open multiple screen in Vision pro
✅💯👌👏👍
Seems like the 2nd gen is where it’s at
So if I left the room, I need keyboard/trackpad, are they connected to the laptop or directly to the Vision Pro ?
Laptop
Love your videos Max, but one thing that concerns me with all these UA-cam videos in the lack of content around eye safety and just how your eye's respond once the headset is taken off after a while in the headset and you return to the real world, and if over time all will suffer the same problem that optometrist are concerned about - and that is the number of people that they see with regards to shortsightness in regards to phones, iPad etc. ( I include myself in this, by the way).
Remember this is not a TV in which you sit a recommended distance from in relation to the size of the TV, you literally have 2 4k screens sitting inches away from each eyeball, that can't be good in the long run, anyway sounds like a revolutionary product and I'm glad you like it, though I have to say not for me, not because of what I have mentioned above,
but I just would not have the workflow to justify the expense (I am from Australia, and the Vision Pro will retail around $5,300 Dollars by the time it is released in Australia, when that is is anyone's guess.) I Don't want to sound like a wet blanket, but I just wish UA-camrs when reviewing gadget like this inform people of the Health risk associated with these product.
Anyway Max, good review as always, keep up to good work, and this is just my opinion anyway. God Bless David
I'm also curious about the long-term effect for the eyes with AVP. I mean many hours a day and using it for years. Same thing about all the other similar headsets of course.
Why did Apple and Tim Cook never talk about that on the WWDC keynote?
Just look at iPod many years ago and probably the same thing on iPhone: there's a limitation for volume to protect your ears. That's very important when you have speakers in your ears. And now with displays maybe 1-2 cm in front of your eyes, and your eyes getting exposed for that light and I don't know how many nits. But is that really healthy for the eyes in the long run?
dude, you look ridiculous talking directly to the camera wearing the vision pro.
😂Yeah I’m not sure why he thought to do that!
They say Pretty much everything Apple makes worth it even something ridiculously overpriced that’s still a beta product with barely any relevant apps or use cases. 🤦
does it work for 2 mac at same time?
Even apple is wrong😅
Just a gimmick product, I would buy a Meta quest 3 instead
This thing is completely worthless at the moment, it could be used only for replacement of the MacBook's screen. Otherwise it's just a toy like an iPad (compared to MacBooks), unfortunately
Im sorry, bur for me ipad is essential for my workflow, im sick of all the hate the APV, of all the guys who cant afford it 😂
@@leghtim1 as a vr enthusiast who can afford it, this thing is not worth the price from a workflow perspective
What were you expecting for it to do ?
Haters gonna hate
@@leghtim1 I have an iPad Pro with M1 chip. And it's useless compared to same M1 chip on a MacBook. I cannot work on it, but I would like to as same as I could on a Surface Pro. It's completely artificial restriction. I do mobile apps development
Like I say before, they have to use MacOS on the Vision not iPadOS. And yes it’s bandwidth limited, for 4k@120hz RGB 4:4:4 u will need about 30gbit/s over hdmi 2.1. So with that WiFi 6 u can get about realistic 1gbit/s. Multiple streams from your Mac are unreal. The best way is to connect directly. But with that costs I can buy 5x 42 inch 4k Oled Screens. So it is not worth it.
I’m disappointed at the quality of the display when used with the MacBook Pro. It definitely is not as sharp as my 42 inch LG display and I don’t prefer the Vision Pro display. It really needs multiple displays for it to be useful. I do like using the Vision Pro for watching movies but for work on the Mac I don’t think it is that good and I’m seriously considering returning it since I don’t think I’d use it much for work.
Apple users think a $4000 VR headset is cool but until it is made by another company, the price becomes too much.
Like who the hell pays $4000 dollars for a headset whe I could get the razer blade 16.
Using for too long will change your personalities. Think about your family if u still have one. If u live alone, its fine but still not a good idea.
I returned mine in less than a week. It’s not worth close to what it costs and meta’s is just as good for a fraction of the price
You are returning your Apple Vision Pro headset Devices?
Why you're so obssessed with youtuber returning stuff lately? He could be a genuine owner not a cheap youtubers who get one mainly for money and views
No, nobody *needs* a Vision Pro.
nice
just use meta quest 3, vision pro is not a completely developed product
HECK no 😂😂
They’re not comparable lol, Vision Pro is VASTLY superior
@@Epicgamer_Mac no vrchat, no controllers, no Netflix, UA-cam, no rec room, 3000$ price difference without AppleCare
@@Epicgamer_Macfanboy shitting
😮😅
Quest 3-512gb,16ft usb-c vr link cable,elite strap with battery,2 touch plus controllers, charging dock and extra silicone face pad .. All in is $1000/USD on Amazon.. I get chat, rec room,UA-cam,Netflix,and real games! Hard pass to AVP..When they offer that and more ,maybe then I’ll buy! Oh and watching movies is just fine.. The one and only thing AVP has going for it right now is higher resolution..Soo ,which one is truly superior,the most complete package? : hint ; it’s not Vision Pro!
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