Blackmagic ATEM Switchers for Worship | Intro to Multi-Camera Video Production
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I’ve watched this like 6 times trying to wrap my mind around this technology!
We are just starting to do streaming to assist those in our congregation that may have risk factors for Covid-19. We just purchased a BMD ATEM Mini Pro, our requirements were straight forward: 1) Live Stream the Service to Social Media 2) Record the Service and Post on Social Media 3) Connect to ProPresenter 4) Keep it cost effective, ATEM Mini Pro along with two lower end Canon camcorders with a clean HDMI Out looks like they will work well for us 5) We had to upgrade our internet connection to make sure the upstream bandwidth throughput was properly available to support Live Streaming 6) We are almost there and this video is REALLY helpful...thank you!
I am blessed to hear this. It makes me wanna look forward to achieve a live streaming with quality on our church as well here in the Philippines.
Im so thankful for this churchfront channel they have helped me so much and they are so clear and to the point on every video, u guys are awesome
I always appreciate it when you show a pic of the flow (like at 12:55). I’m a visual learner all the way so that is extremely helpful. Thanks for that
What’s up Jake! I’m 16 and I just got my first job in Ministry! I’m a Creative and Production team member for the youth ministry. I’ve been watching your stuff all the time! Keep it up bro!
Rachel BestCine Please, nobody buy this. It’s probably a scam and even if it’s legit they are way overpriced. Please report for spam.
@@williamjoyner2306 I'm guessing the comment you're responding to was deleted?
For smaller churches, the blackmagic atem mini pro will be a huge upgrade and that might be the only piece of equipment you need to buy as it makes your computer think its output is WEBCAM. You can send 3 video inputs directly into it and your propresenter or proclaim output from another laptop into it. More budget friendly IMO than thinking of buying another capture card
Using the Mini, not the Pro. I saw no advantage to it since we use OBS to live stream to Facebook and have a really decent computer (AMD 1700X, 16GB RAM, AMD Graphics card), but terrible upload internet speed. BUT, you are limited to the length of the HDMI cable and you are able to only go up to 1080HD.
I looked into getting HDMI to SDI and back, but the cost of the SDI cables is expensive and difficult to find here in Poland.
Also with OBS, you can record to your computer too.....
The Atem Mini will allow you to use different frame rate cameras. I have a 50P working with a 60i with the Mini.... There is no multiview with the Mini.
@@Reyfox1 SDI is just a Coax cable with the SDI connector. You can buy long spools of coaxial cable and build your own SDI cables fairly inexpensive at least here in the USA.
@@Reyfox1 Re: Mini vs Pro - if you are doing multiple angles, the multi-view alone is worth the price difference in my opinion. I also much prefer hardware encoding than passing the encoding to the computer that is also doing the streaming. When you add the ability to record to multiple disks on the fly to me this PRO is a no brainer if you're starting up. We use the ATEM Studio 4k and I wish it had some of the features of the Mini PRO.
@@wysland2210 here in Poland, some things are just plain expensive. Especially with the VAT. Whenever I head Stateside (I'm a native NY'er for 55 years retired living in Poland), I stock up on things that cost less than here.
I'm not a solder type person. Made that I didn't learn it when I had the chance decades ago. I had someone working for me to do that. But I will investigate!
As for the Pro, it does have features, but it's twice the price. We have zero budget, so the Mini works. OBS records if we want, but we only stream to facebook. We have 1 camera at the moment and with money permitting, will add a couple more. But that does take money and manpower...
Please explain how you would send the propresenter feed from another laptop into the atem mini?
I am not at all religions, but these guys are honestly great! Really helpful for organising gigs
Brooooo you have been on it for the past few months!!! Great content and TO THE POINT!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 ayyy K.C in the house!
@@JavarGarrett Lol Dr. Conley chiming in!
Hey kv
A dedicated encoder or hardware encoder built into the ATEM is a must. Lifting that load off a laptop is ideal.
This is a great video. As a smaller church within a single camera angle we use PP7 for everything , including streaming out to Facebook. Our lower thirds are added to the stream via custom Looks and themes within PP. The only thing we're looking to do now is incorporate a Decklink Duo setup to handle additional display outputs. As we start to utilize additional cameras in the future, I'm sure we'll look into incorporating a video switcher like the ATEM mini Pro.
Yeah. I’m going to have a hard time convincing the elder board to approve thousands of dollars for “Blackmagic”.
There is more then 1 version of the equipment. they have a mini about $300, a "Pro" version about $600 and then the version he has in this video.
Same here!!! They don't understand!
Haha, I hid the box 😁
Interesting they don't understand yet with the times we are in. We have a 4 camera PTZ system in a small rural church and immediately the value in that was seen because the only difference people have had in their worship is that they aren't in the pews. We started out bring all the cameras into our Wirecast on a Mac via LAN, but the camera feeds would lag at different rates making post editing a challenge and live streaming an even bigger challenge. We got the Television Studio Pro and the change has brought value almost immediately. My post service edit time after has decreased from more than 4 hours to less 1 1/2 hours from beginning of edit to posting it. That opens up 2 1/2 hours to focus and put energy in other areas and project. Plus our service audio and video are in sync always and the switcher opens up the ability to put the video feed on our big screens when the pews are filled again. Plus our live stream computer when from live streaming and recording at 720p with the Mac at 90-99% the whole service to now we are streaming 720p & recording at 1080p and the computer sometimes hits 60% but mostly runs in the 40-50% range. That will pay in the long run in wearing out the MAC plus we aren't dropping 300+ frames in a 1 hour service. These are well worth the money. If you can't show your elders the value then hit me up via FB. Our church streams are fb.com/StPaulUticaSermons. If you check out the highlights we did in 2019 they are with a 1 camera setup. Towards the end of December we went to the 4 camera setup (LIVE School Christmas Program was our first live stream all the cameras and shows the audio video delays) and then March 28th we began full online service. I have been using it now for about 4 service. It has made a huge difference.
@@OJUtter Hey, We are looking at PTZ camera's for our church. What brand/model are you using?
You are a God-send, Jake. Thank you so much.
Dude you're the best! you combined everything simple and easy in one video. Thank you so much!
Thanks Jake, explained a bunch of info to make it much easier to understand. Great Presentation
This channel is such a blessing! thank you for posting these videos, especially at this time that many small churches are just starting to upgrade their multimedia ministry
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Thank you its nice to find a video that explains what gear we need and how to get it working correctly
That like button joke made me go and like the video. Nicely done Jake!
The only negative with the Atem Mini Pro is the single HDMI out. You can’t multiview and program feed at the same time. (Unless your program feed goes over USB-C into eCamm or OBS). That being said the amazing thing with the Atem Mini Pro is the record feature built in. I am using it every week now. Recording to a USB-C thumb drive and the entire multi cam with lower thirds shoot is recorded live! This saves hours and hours of work. Also the Atem Mini Pro has a built in streaming codec. So no need for a separate streaming PC you can go straight over hardwired Ethernet to any streaming platform.
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Glad you noticed my hard labor
You can actually use the downstream key instead of the upstream key, which is easier imo. You send ProPresenter to the BM switcher with a transparent background. Then add the camera source to your downstream key. You have a dedicated button on the BM switcher that says "DSK 1 mix". That way you always have a dedicated button to add lyrics and take them down easily.
Jesse is the dedicated button on the hardware or on the computer control?
On the switcher that he is using
Alternatively, if you're using vmix or obs, you can bring in the presentation through ndi and free up an hdmi input :)
Hi Jesse, the downstrean keyer doesn’t support luma or chroma keying
BeeSteady Productions You don’t Luma and chroma with ProPresenter, because ProPresenter can send transparent backgrounds
PRAISE THE LORD! Literally buying this switcher next week.
Thanks Jake...great vid. Really appreciate your time and effort.
I am very grateful for your tutorials, it has helped me setup our Media requirements for our church. This will be the next equipment we will look into adding to our setup. God bless you abundantly Jake.
This video was CLUTCH!! Now just gotta sell a kidney to get an ATEM switcher.... Thanks, Jake!
Chris Scott 😂 ATEM switchers are actually some of the cheapest switchers on the market
Jesse, right... and they are sold out and on back order pretty much everywhere.
Chris Scott I know, they need to make more already!! 😭
That was the Video I was looking for. I have seen a lot suck video on different channels but this one is perfect
Jake, So grateful for what you're doing. I'm in the place where we need to upgrade our church setup and its so complicated. Thank you for all you do.
We just got this switcher at our church. Thank you soooo much for this tutorial
One tip is to hook up the confidence monitor feed through the ATEM (twice), if you can spare the input. That will let you use the AUX out feed of the ATEM to the confidence screen/TV, and give you a quick way of toggling that output to main slides vs b/w, or helping out on stage for camera tests etc...
My ATEM Mini Pro arriving today 👀
Weird flex but ok
They've been out of stock everywhere for weeks. I was excited to see my shipping notification on the same day Jake posted his video about it. Go off though.
@@prochurchtools How long ago did you order it?
@@disccop75 Last week. From eBay though. At an added cost. 😬
Pro Church Tools with Brady Shearer I don't blame you... I'm running out of patience myself
The church I serve at go our Atem mini pro in last week. It works amazing for livestreaming our services. We're only running 1 camera at this time, but also send a ProPresenter output with lower thirds to use as a downstream keyer for lyrics and scripture.
Drew Muldrow neat concept. I’m interested in the same setup. Would you mind explaining the setup a little more? Specifically how ProPresenter integrates into the mini.
Zack Collier Sure thing. I have a display on ProPresenter that is setup similar to how Jake has his livestream display at 16:10, except ours is going out on HDMI rather than SDI. This goes directly from our Mac to the Atem mini pro to HDMI IN #2 (this can be done on any of the 4 inputs, we’re using #1 for our camera). Below where Jake selected the upstream keyer in the control software, there’s a section called downstream keyer that works in a similar way to the upstream. I selected the input to be HDMI 2, and the option below it I changed to black, which removes all the black background from ProPresenter and overlays the lyrics/scripture over whatever input you’re using. The only downside is that you have to click the DSK button on the software control since there’s not a physical button on the mini pro. I don’t know if this made any sense or not. Let me know if you have any other questions. I’m more than Happy to help. I might also make a video about the setup since that would be easier to follow.
Drew Muldrow ah thank you. I have been trying to get a mini pro but they have all been out of stock everywhere I looked. We don’t do live-streaming currently, but I think the mini pro will be a good start for us. We do use ProPresenter currently, so I have been trying to figure out how to get the lyrics, sermon notes, etc to display in the live stream. Basically I hope we can figure outa way to do the whole service flow inside ProPresenter, but have the livestream just see the lower thirds with the video. So as the volunteer is clicking through in ProPresenter, the graphics, videos, or whatever just show on the livestream. But with your setup, do you have to physically switch between 1&2, the camera and ProPresenter? And also, is there a way to remove the lyrics or sermon notes from the livestream once it is read? It would be awkward to have the lower third displayed the whole time until the next lower third is displayed. Sorry to ramble, but I have been stressing out over this.
@@JustFRAUD You don't have to switch from 1&2 to see the lyrics and such, they automatically overlay on the camera feed once you click the downstream keyer. Also, if you turn the downstream keyer off, the lyrics/scripture go away and leave a clean camera feed. The only time we switch between 1&2 is for bumper videos and the countdown as those are displayed instead of the camera.
Drew Muldrow thanks for the info. One more thing, are you streaming from the mini itself?
ATEM Mini Pro is an awesome recommendation. If only I could find one I’m stock anywhere. I ended up getting the ATEM Television HD simply because I couldn’t get my hands on the Mini Pro. Or even a Mini. People are selling Minis on eBay for upwards of $1000! It’s just too perfect of a product for these times.
TV studio Pro 4k has been my favorite switcher I've ever used, and I've owned 5 different switchers/ran Tricasters, grass valley systems etc. I'd encourage your churches to look into that piece of gear. I also wouldn't recommend the mini recorder, I'd go with a web presenter or an ultra studio. Hope this is helpful for people!
why? does the mini recorder not compress the videos? what ultra studio is the best to use from black magic? the
Spot On!
wow! you are a wonderful teacher!
Would love to see behind the scenes at Upperroom in Dallas.
Great man, we are so thankful for this. Be blessed.
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Also, Jake mentions that you need to ensure that all video sources are sending the same frame rates, which is a good idea anyhow, but all inputs on the ATEM switchers have low latency re-sync. So if you'e cameras cannot output the same format the switcher will take care of it. This is not an issue with most modern cameras however. Most will do at least 1080 at 30fps.
Using a screenshot from a Bethel multitrack video for your thumbnail I see 🧐 haha awesome content keep it up ;)
Thanks for this Jake!
Using blackmagic in worship? Something fishy going on here
LOL. You won the internet today.
Karens be crazy
🤣🤣🤣
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Don't tell my Christian employer that I'm using Blackmagic, a Devil Box eGPU, and a Deathadder mouse.
Thank You - Stay Blessed.
Awesome setup! We have a portable church set up as well. We have been using Sling Studio to be as portable as possible and it works pretty well. ProPresenter with it is kind of janky but it works for us!
Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks man!🔥🙌
This is what I wanted to do for my church, but I ended up building an all in one computer with wirecast. The extra physical hardware from this setup is more ideal, but it costs more, which is why I couldn't justify it to the other parties. We do all the video switching software based, but it still works since our machine is more than strong enough to handle it. Still wish I could have went this route, however. Just has always felt safer!
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Great video! We are upgrading from our Communication Director's iPad streaming to FB to an ATEM Mini Pro and two PTZ Optics cameras. We are going to use an Elgato Streamdeck for camera and macro control.
excellent video! help me a lot!
Thanks for the video! Answered all the questions I had
excellent video!! looking at upgrading our church setup. Starting with the ATEM Mini and multiple cameras.
Great job smashed the button
This is very good. We at BBC are trying to find the best video streaming equipment for our church
Problem with the HD in comparrison to the Atem Mini or 4k is that all incoming sources need to have exactly the same framerate and size. If one varies, it will not be shown. The Mini and 4k scales signals for you
Amen, we just purchased the mini pro!
Thank you for sharing
One suggestion I give to everyone who is looking to LIVE stream, the ATEM HD works best. Don't go for 4k unless you're planning to archive it. Facebook and UA-cam only give the option to stream in 720p. Only Twitch and Mixer, from my understanding, allow you to stream in 720p. That is LIVE STREAMING. Now, if you're going to upload your video, then knock yourself out.
Thank you for your sharing this video exactly what I needed 👍🙏🙏
Helpful! Like button smashed!
Great video, thank you! Very helpful!
Super helpful. Thank you!
Great video! It is definitely very helpful!!!
THIS IS THE BEST WELL EXPLAINED VIDEOS ONE COULD SEE! GREAT JOB YOUR A TRUE BLESSING!
So I know this is an old video, but I'm confused about how our setup compares to what you described. (We have a very old setup and I'm in the process of updating it from about 20 years ago.lol) We have a PC on the left side of our booth with an operator running Propresenter for our lyrics and message slides. He is sending it to our screens on stage and sending a feed into my PC where I run the Livestream and recording. I have an old Roland video switcher that is getting video from the main camera at my right and from 2 old ptz cameras on either side of the sanctuary. The video comes out of that switcher and into my PC. I run Vmix and have it set up with a feed from the switcher, a feed from the other PC with Propresenter, an audio feed from our Behringer X32 (I think that's the model), and I have a couple of overlays for our Church Logo in the corner and an overlay for how people at home can give online during our tithe and offering time. (We have a mostly older audience, but are starting to get younger couples into our congregation.) I just send the stream to Facebook and UA-cam from Vmix using streaming keys with both sites open in chrome in the background to start and end the stream on each site. Is this a weird way to do this and are there ways to simplify as I build a couple new PC's? Our pastor wants us to be capable of 4k, so new computers which I can build myself (we are running dells from like 2011. Lol), new cameras and a new switcher.
Hey Jake! Love the channel...With the ATEM Mini Pro...there is a 4 camera limitation work around! I have a 4K HDMI 4x1 switcher hooked up to input 4. So I have cameras on inputs 1-through 3, and the 4x1 HDMI switcher Box on input #4 (as a sub group)...where I put 2- GoPro's and 2- Panasonic G7's on it, for a total of 7 HD-Cameras Feeds. The only issue is, when I switch through the 4x1 sub-switcher, there's a few millisecond of blackness, as the 4x1 switcher drops one signal and picks up the new selected signal...but I just make sure I have channel 1,2 or 3 on the program feed while I'm selecting the proper camera feed from the 4x1 sub-switcher.
very useful information, thank you
Bro! Straight fire with this video! Love it!! We’re using that Blackmagic ATEM M/E 1 4K and it’s wonderful! One question I have is: wouldn’t you rather use a downstream key (DSK) for your lyric overlay? That way it stays on top of every camera angle you have? I noticed since you used and upstream key that the lyrics only showed on that secondary angle! But bro, you probably have a really great reason for using an Upstream Key that I’m not thinking of! So thankful for you man!
You can also deselect the yellow "Key 1" button after you put it in so it won't be affected by the switching buttons
Thanks a lots
Bravo!!!
Almost to 100k
Hi! When connected to the Sony a6400 Atem television studio HD, only black screen and sound are output. The format on the camera and the switcher is correct. When connecting other models of cameras, everything is in order (for example, Fujifilm XT-3). How to solve a problem?
Thank you, great video.
My church just put me in charge of making a check request for a whole new streamer set up, and your video helped so much! My big question is, can the cameras come in wirelessy to the ATEM so that we don't have wires running all over the place?
Honestly who has the budget for THAT many OMEGA 500z cameras by 'Camera' 🤷♂️
Why give to a church that has to waste it on carp like this?
Does the USB Webcam Out on the Atem Mini allow you to skip the capture card necessity? We use Ecamm Live, so I would think that we could just put our 2 or 3 cameras and ProPresenter into the Atem, then just do USB out to Ecamm as 1 single camera input and we're good to go. Right?
Joel Cook yes the usb output can be used as webcam output. On the pro you can actually plug in usb drive for direct recording. Hope you answered.
3:34 really, that emoji, you gonna do us like this
I literally just got an ATEM Mini Pro for my church. Haha.
How did the setup go? I'm surmising that we wouldn't need any streaming software since the mini incorporates the streaming with the switcher. Is that correct?
@@LegacyChurchGo Joshua King here on my church's account. Setting it up is today's task. The ATEM Mini Pro has a built in streaming encoder.
Set up a super easy. I don't know how to stream easier. very excited to get the whole thing up and running. We're going to start lives from you in a few weeks. But I could have live streamed this Sunday if we need to.
Great Vid Jake !!! We are pretty much going to setup with ATEM Mini Pro (smaller church) but I’m still a fuzzy on how to get Propresenter integrated into the production.... Propresenter is our main presentation software for in-house production, but how to send the feed to the switcher is still a little confusing .....
You can send it as one of your inputs, i.e. through HDMI
Thanks for this video! A bit of an unrelated question: what kind of TV cart/mount is that? I really like the look of it.
3:33 😂😂😂💪🏿👊🏿props to the editor.
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Hey Jake. For your expansion chassie, did you buy it with the decklink duo or did you have to purchase them separate and then add them together?
Can you add the link for the exact chassie and the exact decklink duo you have? I’ve found a few, but I want to make sure I get the one you have.
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What do you think about SlingStudio?
Great informative video man! Any possibility to provide a bit more clarification on transitioning a prerecording (Praise & Worship) to a live stream (sermon) using ATEM?
Do you have a designated person running pro presenter for livestream or do you use the same pro presenter as your front of house? How do you accomplish this? We already have the BM television studio Hd running.
I have the exact same question.
Thanks for all the valuable streaming information. Quick question: What would be the basic and portable set up for Live Streaming, software and hardware. Thanks in adavance.
Thanks Jake for your content! Great work, keep it up! I got a question: We are now using the ATEM TV Studio Switcher, but we have some micro studio cameras on the stage which is about more than a 100ft from the tech booth away. Is there a way to run & control all these cameras with one cable and maybe a hub? Because now we are running 6 SDI cables for 100ft for 3 cameras. There's no space any more for another camera placing on stage.
👍 helpful
My question is, why do churches in Europa do not use the great opportunty to Stream . Is it because we have a real church and not a hall stuffed with technology?
Another great video! Thank you!!! We’re trying to decide if we’re at the point if needing to make the jump to Living As One. Would love a video on the pros & cons of doing so. Thanks again!
Could u do a video on how to set up a wireless camera transmitter for video mixing.
great
Yeah.. I have this product and use it for over 4 years now...
My only problem is that the multiviewer is not working anymore. I see the grid and audio signal is showing on the monitor, but I don't see the images from my cameras. This is very weird. I looked on the internet and many people have this issue and nobody from blackmagic team offered some solutions. It is not about the firmware, it is not about the signals from the sdi/hdmi... something hardware is gone bad.
Thank you for such a good fairly comprehensive overview. We've been using an ATEM HD switcher with PTZ Optics cams and a Canon XA55 and a GoPro. All work well. I've been in search of a budget cam we can mount in a static form for OS use and better use the XA55 for handheld and not just lock it down. I've tried the Vixia R500 as a low-cost OS cam solution, but the ATEM refuses to see it online. I've tried a few other low-cost solutions but none seem to work with the ATEM HD. I see you show a Canon Vixia R800. Have you used the R800 with the setup? Is there any other budget-minded cams you've used successfully with the ATEM HD?
Nice work
The Word of God doesnt need all that. It is infinitely more powerful than all that expensive gear. Enough lights to see and a few mics and ample p.a. for the pastor, choir, and/or soloist is sufficient.
Think of all the good work that could be done with all that money in supporting local and worldwide efforts, ministries, and mission work to reach people face to face who need the good news of Christ in their lives.
I love good, heartfelt songs of inspiration. But they don't need this wall of technology to be effective.
Could you put in the description of this video what all expansion cards you have in that Sonnet unit and how they integrate into the workflow please?
Hi Jake (not from State Farm).
Great job on the video. All of your stuff really helps a lot. I have a question concerning the ATEM Mini. Does it have a multi-cam preview output? I have heard conflicting stories about that.
Thanks,
brs
The new (more expensive) ATEM Mini Pro does have multi-cam preview. The older ATEM mini does not. :)
id love to have you out to my church we need a lot of help setting up live and doing video im running it by myself
Question, is there a way to connect the cameras wirelessly to the atem or only able to use hdmi from cameras to atem system?
Thanks Jake! How can we get our cameras to also go to our in-person projectors (eye mag) using this equipment?
Jake, what exactly is that rig that contains the Decklink card? Almost looks like a DIY Thunderbolt 3 dock?
Answered my own question thanks to a lucky video placement in my Facebook feed: ua-cam.com/video/ud72xaOlngY/v-deo.html Thanks so much for your content, Jake!
Great video Jake. I wanted to ask if it is possible, how would you recommend using this setup if you used the same laptop you are using to control ProPresenter and the ATEM to also run your livestream?
Hello, I need a little help. I work in TV production. I have two graphics computers that separately send video and alpha key and I wont to send it to the ATM blackmagic switcher via HDMI (4 inputs). I send that signal (video and alpha) as input to the TV video mixer (2 outputs). In case of error, I need to switch the signal from computer 1 to computer 2. But the problem is that I have to send the second alpha video as well. Can I use the program output for video and aux out as alpha key and how can I simultaneously change both signals at once. P.S. Changing the single is the responsibility of the graphics operator, not the main video mixer.Thank you