Thanks for the info on the CrazyFire. I just got the BMD TV Studio HD for our church but we only had one camera. This would easily add a second view without hurting the budget.
So, the CrazyFire seems like a better option for studio use. Cheaper, manual zoom and focus, SDI connects to the ATEM TVS HD w/o any conversion? I was looking at a GoPro, but I guess I'll go with the Crazyfire (which reminds me of a Marshall) instead.
Thanks for the helpful video :-) I think for me using the MD-HX makes sense. You can use the same power bank to power the MD-HX and the GoPro plus the picture quality seems to be better on the GoPro and you can still use the GoPro in other applications as it has better mounting options and a recording function.
I just got the CrazyFire. A few things that are worth knowing about. One is there is a composite video output which is always on, so that can help to verify a) that it's working and b) what the menu settings are. Manual is bad English, but sort of makes sense. Weird output mode selection by pressing button 3 x to the right or left, hard to figure out at first. and since it came set to a different resolution than I was set for, I couldn't see what was on the screen/menu. The composite let me hook up a small monitor to be able to make adjustments. Limited resolution settings, but there are a few to work with. The mount is rather cheap (as expected) and has a M5 metric threads so it won't go right onto a 1/4-20 mount. I just screwed it into a piece of wood for now. For the price, it seems like a deal.
I later found that there are a number of SDI cameras made for security CCTV that work just as well. I added a Mokose camera for about the same price with a better 1/4-20 mounting hole and better body. I installed them both in our church hall and connected to our BMD ATEM equipment. That week the stay-at-home orders came down so I'm still looking forward to trying them out in a live setting some day! :)
Can you please hielo help me with this?, I have the same switcher as yours with four canon sdi cameras but I have never been able to see the other cameras on preview I just see the preview next to the live screen, thanks.
@Alexey Zimarov You need to switch the GoPro from PAL to NTSC. In countries where mains electricity is 50Hz, selecting PAL minimises flicker, where electricity is 60Hz selecting NTSC does the equivalent. Once this is set, the frame rate options are essentially 25, 50, 100, 200 under PAL and 30, 60, 120, 240 under NTSC
May I also add that GoPro Hero 7 Black (it is probably a similar issue with any other GoPro) outputs 1080p29.97 over HDMI when set to NTSC and outputs 1080p25 when set to PAL. This is regardless of what the internal recording rate is set to on the GoPro, be that 4k/60 or anything else. The signal is downgraded to one of those two. This means that you do not need any additional hardware simply to display the GoPro's output on Atem equipment, there is always an Atem setting which will display the GoPro's output. The reason you might need a Decimator or BMD's equivalent or any other format converter is only to match the outputs from two or more cameras that output differently so that they can both/all be recognised at the same time by the Atem. Thinking about it, also no amount of hardware is going to improve the resolution/frame rate output by the camera to a better standard. It can only make things worse or at best equal. This is the Lowest Common Denominator issue. If the Hero 7 only outputs at 30fps nothing in hardware is going to get you back the missing 30fps to get back to smooth 60fps shooting.
Hello you do awesome work. I just came across your video, 1080i is really what you’re broadcasting with regarding the ATEM switcher. The GOpro does not offer 1080i, it is strictly 1080p and upwards.
I also have GoPro Hero7 Black but for 1080 I only have 200, 100, 50, 35 and 24 FPS but not 60. My ATEM TVS HD is set to 60 fps and I can't make it work also with the BMD HDMI-SD Micro Converter, most probably because of the fps mismatch. I am wondering how you got the GoPro on 60 fps?
I have the GoPro 6 and works just fine are you sure you've set it to live view? Also I use the Atem Mini with mine but I really like the quality you get I will try and get better quality in mine! Thanks!
Here's an interesting problem we are having with this exact same setup: All our other cameras and inputs are at 1080p 60fps, and as you know, the ATEM has to have all it's inputs at the same resolution and framerate. When I set the GoPro Hero 7 up to be 1080p 60fps, it does not work. However, when I change the ATEM to 1080p 30fps... the GoPro's feed appears, even though it's still at 60fps! No idea why. But all the other cameras/inputs can't be used, unless I switch all those to 30 as well, which may have to be the solution. I'm hoping to get a couple of the MD-LX's and crossing my fingers the solution is as simple as that.
Why Crazy fire have 3 cables? Red, green and yellow? Could you connect it to ultra studio mini recorder blackmagic? Could you connect it 50 Mts away by sdi cable?
The yellow composite connector can be helpful for adjusting the sdi settings, if you have small composite monitor, since you won't see the sdi output if the settings aren't correct but you will always see the composite.
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GoPro Hero 7 Black: amzn.to/2YSCtDY
At a Minimum, you need a Decimator MD-LX: amzn.to/2EGPAjR
This is the same model you using in that video?
do you know if the crazy fire will connect straight into the original atem tvs?
Thanks for the info on the CrazyFire. I just got the BMD TV Studio HD for our church but we only had one camera. This would easily add a second view without hurting the budget.
So, the CrazyFire seems like a better option for studio use. Cheaper, manual zoom and focus, SDI connects to the ATEM TVS HD w/o any conversion? I was looking at a GoPro, but I guess I'll go with the Crazyfire (which reminds me of a Marshall) instead.
great.. tanks for this video , I have the atem mini pro and could not fix the image delay until now
With the Atem mini pro switchers, will an old gopro 7 work without the decimator?
Thanks for the helpful video :-) I think for me using the MD-HX makes sense. You can use the same power bank to power the MD-HX and the GoPro plus the picture quality seems to be better on the GoPro and you can still use the GoPro in other applications as it has better mounting options and a recording function.
I just got the CrazyFire. A few things that are worth knowing about. One is there is a composite video output which is always on, so that can help to verify a) that it's working and b) what the menu settings are. Manual is bad English, but sort of makes sense. Weird output mode selection by pressing button 3 x to the right or left, hard to figure out at first. and since it came set to a different resolution than I was set for, I couldn't see what was on the screen/menu. The composite let me hook up a small monitor to be able to make adjustments. Limited resolution settings, but there are a few to work with. The mount is rather cheap (as expected) and has a M5 metric threads so it won't go right onto a 1/4-20 mount. I just screwed it into a piece of wood for now. For the price, it seems like a deal.
I later found that there are a number of SDI cameras made for security CCTV that work just as well. I added a Mokose camera for about the same price with a better 1/4-20 mounting hole and better body. I installed them both in our church hall and connected to our BMD ATEM equipment. That week the stay-at-home orders came down so I'm still looking forward to trying them out in a live setting some day! :)
@@exectech Hey! Did you ever test this out? How did It work? Do you have a link to the camera you bought? Thanks!
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Been looking for a cheap cam to use as a drum cam that can easily function with the tv hd studio.
Can you please hielo help me with this?, I have the same switcher as yours with four canon sdi cameras but I have never been able to see the other cameras on preview I just see the preview next to the live screen, thanks.
@Alexey Zimarov You need to switch the GoPro from PAL to NTSC. In countries where mains electricity is 50Hz, selecting PAL minimises flicker, where electricity is 60Hz selecting NTSC does the equivalent. Once this is set, the frame rate options are essentially 25, 50, 100, 200 under PAL and 30, 60, 120, 240 under NTSC
May I also add that GoPro Hero 7 Black (it is probably a similar issue with any other GoPro) outputs 1080p29.97 over HDMI when set to NTSC and outputs 1080p25 when set to PAL. This is regardless of what the internal recording rate is set to on the GoPro, be that 4k/60 or anything else. The signal is downgraded to one of those two.
This means that you do not need any additional hardware simply to display the GoPro's output on Atem equipment, there is always an Atem setting which will display the GoPro's output.
The reason you might need a Decimator or BMD's equivalent or any other format converter is only to match the outputs from two or more cameras that output differently so that they can both/all be recognised at the same time by the Atem.
Thinking about it, also no amount of hardware is going to improve the resolution/frame rate output by the camera to a better standard. It can only make things worse or at best equal. This is the Lowest Common Denominator issue. If the Hero 7 only outputs at 30fps nothing in hardware is going to get you back the missing 30fps to get back to smooth 60fps shooting.
Hello you do awesome work. I just came across your video, 1080i is really what you’re broadcasting with regarding the ATEM switcher. The GOpro does not offer 1080i, it is strictly 1080p and upwards.
So a decimator and a black magic up down converter or something that can reduce the resolution outside of the ATEM switcher.
Hello. Question...the Hero8...can that go directly into the ATEM or does it also need the Decimeter? Thanks
isnt ok if i use micro converter BiDirectional SDI/HDMI3g?
I also have GoPro Hero7 Black but for 1080 I only have 200, 100, 50, 35 and 24 FPS but not 60. My ATEM TVS HD is set to 60 fps and I can't make it work also with the BMD HDMI-SD Micro Converter, most probably because of the fps mismatch. I am wondering how you got the GoPro on 60 fps?
I have the GoPro 6 and works just fine are you sure you've set it to live view? Also I use the Atem Mini with mine but I really like the quality you get I will try and get better quality in mine! Thanks!
It's been so long since I made this video and I don't have any GoPros any more. Sorry!
Here's an interesting problem we are having with this exact same setup:
All our other cameras and inputs are at 1080p 60fps, and as you know, the ATEM has to have all it's inputs at the same resolution and framerate. When I set the GoPro Hero 7 up to be 1080p 60fps, it does not work. However, when I change the ATEM to 1080p 30fps... the GoPro's feed appears, even though it's still at 60fps! No idea why. But all the other cameras/inputs can't be used, unless I switch all those to 30 as well, which may have to be the solution. I'm hoping to get a couple of the MD-LX's and crossing my fingers the solution is as simple as that.
It could be cheaper to just get an ATEM Mini HD since it will convert the signals.
Why Crazy fire have 3 cables? Red, green and yellow? Could you connect it to ultra studio mini recorder blackmagic? Could you connect it 50 Mts away by sdi cable?
the Yellow one is for standard video - you'll need a BNC to RCA. I cut it off. I haven't tested 50m, but I don't see why not.
The yellow composite connector can be helpful for adjusting the sdi settings, if you have small composite monitor, since you won't see the sdi output if the settings aren't correct but you will always see the composite.
Can I use this Decimator MD-HX with just Gopro7 and OBS on my Mac? how would that connect to the computer with a HDMI to USBc ?
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DECIMATOR MD-LX
With OBS, all you need to use the GoPro with it is this: amzn.to/3aK7IYc
I saw that you have USBC, so this will work directly with the GoPro and OBS: amzn.to/2ReuU9w
Is that a floppy disk 8:22 😁😁😁😁😁😁
Will works with atem mini ?!
Hey I have ATEM mini pro and it works great I use a 3 go pros and a BMPCC4K
@@joshbarber1907 thanks!! I am already using!
does this work with a GoPro hero session 4
Can you do this with the hero 11 ?
Yes
@@AmazeStudios sweet !!! I will order the decimator
hello, is there any new link for the MD-LX?
This should work: amzn.to/313ImiU
What about the lag ? Will this not be synced ?
GoPro will have more lag due to HDMI, the SDI camera is real time.
It didnt work because your settings didnt match. Atem doesnt like mismatched inputs.
DNR is Digital Noise Reduction
hahaha you had to change the settings in the go proInout / output to Live and then connect directly to ATEM