ARTIST VS PRO PHOTOGRAPHER
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- A painter and a professional photographer...how different do they photograph?! In this video I invite my friend, artist and model Angelica to shoot with me so we can compare styles.
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I love how the model is laughing and as soon as the camera points at her its GAME TIME
Jeremy T. Innocent she is a pro
Right? I was laughing at that, I usually can't stop laughing
I noticed that too! Especially at 5:25, she was all smiles then -boom- model mode on. If i were a photographer, i would love to work with her!
I love how the model helped her with showing her how to focus the camera when she was having trouble with it. That’s legit girl power!! 😊.
Hues of Delahaye agreed
love the female energy in this one ✨
she has a nicer camera than me and doesn’t even know how to focus it🙄
Cole Dunlap both cameras were mine! She has her own camera but couldn’t find the charger so I brought mine last minute. it was her first time using it for the video so I think she did a great job considering it was her first photoshoot ^_^
@@JessicaKobeissi that makes more sense i guess (even though her camera surely has the same focus button)
You should do an oil painting battle.
we would need a time laps
Photographer vs Cinematographer
Oooo yes. Photographer versus DP
Yesssss
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YES
Ooohh that’d be cool to see!
I think Angelica’s photos had more interesting compositions and unitized more of the space. However, your picture quality was much more polished.
*utilized
@@MissJessyeNorman unitized works too
Am I the only one who has noticed that Jessica sometimes leaves A LOT of room above the model, like in the picture at 7:57
Is that a legit technique or is it like supposed to be cropped out later?
To my eye it just seems so weird because the model isn't in the center and there's so much empty space there at the top, I feel like there should be something visually interesting going on if you're gonna leave that space there. Am I making any sense?
A Tinity I personally like it!
A Tinity The model doesn’t have to be in the centre. I don’t know if it can be called a technique, but she’s definitely leaving that space on purpose. Otherwise she would’ve cropped the photo during the editing, before putting it in the video (all the photos shown are clearly edited). I don’t love it, I don’t hate it, it looks a bit more “spaced out” I guess and some people find it interesting or visually pleasing
*Timer starts*
Angelica: “oh it started?!”
*laughs takes photo of the ground walks peacefully*
😂😂😂😂
damn she is TALL
Helen Melon 178cm
and shes not even surprised lol
@@TheKOXpl Oh wow only 178? She seems taller. Maybe Jessica and Angelica are just pretty short lol
Thin makes you look taller to and those heel boots
Very pretty too
Just out of curiosity why not painter vs pro photographer? I was a little confused at first bc I would argue that a photographer is an artist. Lol cool video though
Thank you I was having similar thoughts.
I would also argue, Pro Painter vs Pro Photographer, considering all of Angelica's work on her IG is amazing!
@@rabbidguarddog pro means you make a living out of it, it's has nothing to do with being good or bad. That being said, I don't know if painting is her profession or not
A commercial artist is different than a fine artist.
There are also fine art photographers and pro photographers, some fine art photographers started doing it professionally then moved into fine art cause you can make more money working in a professional studio. I know my photography is definitely not reliant on studio trappings. When I photograph people like friends I like to do it when they don’t know I’m necessarily photographing them. I want them to be natural and not posing. It’s resulted in very nice portraits. Two friends who are now engaged, I shot the first photos of them together on the first day they hung out. A group of us went out and at one point they ended up talking and they looked so sweet, off by themselves and I started snapping away. They still say those photos are the favourite ones they have ever had done of them. It’s work that’s definitely leaning toward a snapshot aesthetic. They want me to photograph their wedding! Which was supposed to be this year... but with covid? Anyway. We will see! I’ve gotten into self portraits this year and yeah, it’s a snapshot aesthetic but I’m trying to subvert the selfie by documenting myself in both good and bad light - like the good and bad in life. I was really sick early in the year and I’ve been dealing with depression too. So that’s formed part of my narrative. I try to make sure I’m authentic. I definitely think like how the painter thinks like as soon as I saw the blue tiles I was like yeah! I’ve studied with some amazing portrait photographers including Douglas Kirkland (that was an amazing week). I kinda want to go out this year and get better at directing people. I also love natural light. I hate wedding photos though lol, I’m apprehensive of doing my friends wedding but I might do it. I have a mutual friend who I’ve taken courses with and she’s like me in terms of style and I told her I want her to help if I do this.
You know what’s interesting is that I find Angelica’s photos make fantastic references for painting because of all the contrast in the face (at least for me, I find painting faces in high contrast a lot of fun haha)
Jessica and Angelica are legitimately the best duo, their personalities synergize
a like for jellal
Bro why are you everywhere
Photography is inherently an artform and all photographers are artists by default, the painter was not bringing an artists eye to the trade of photography, she was bringing a painter's eye to a different medium of art.
Not true. Or maybe true in a very wide philosophical perspective. As being both - artist who uses mainly photography and a photographer i can tell they are quite different. That is what most people confuse these days - they are both professions. They are not honorary titles. And this video actually brings out the differences. To be called an artist you have to work as an artist. I do both - gallery shows and i am a working photographer. This video is perfect example how different these worlds are and how different the approach is. As an artist i have ample of time to shoot a person. Most of art projects are long. Galleries usually operate on a yearly programme basis, so if i apply for a gallery today the earliest time i get to have an exhibition is 2021. so it leaves me tremendeus amount of time to actually do my project. I dont mind if i do 6 shoots a month and get only one picture i like. No pressure on me. So i can play around, i can try random stuff. i can go as nuts with my ideas as i want. But as a photographer my job is very different. Clients have deadlines. Booked locations, models etc have rates that they have to pay inc. they have to pay me. I know that i have to deliver. And i have to deliver 2 pictures of each outfit that are superb and 2-6 more that are ok and decent enough to use. Minimum. Most of clients do not need your artistic insane ideas, there are handful of poses that work and they work mostly on everyone (and most working models know them by heart) So photographer always does them first. Always! So that you have atleast those covered, then - if you have the time you can play around. Sure there is a difference who is the client and how the job is but majority of works work like this (or in case of catalogue shoot model gets roughly 10 minutes per outfit and you fire away same poses all over again). In case of events, you cant as a photographer stop the event - so you fire away more shots to be sure. you act very fast and be constantly on your feet. In the video we see those same differences Angelica has that typical artistic CBA attitude, and she takes her time to observe the model. Jessica works exactly as professional photographer works. She first delivers and then plays around, and if time gets short she fires away ( the part on stairs) because as a working photographer you have to deliver. Two different professions and two different approaches. A (photo)artist is no better or worse than a photographer. Just a different job. But people sure love to confuse those two professions. Artistic eye is always an artistic eye. Idk if Angelica has art education but usually painters have, if not uni level then usually some regular art school level. Jessica, i think, studied graphic design in art uni. I have a degree in photography. An i saw before and i see now in art university that people from art school: designers, painters, sculptors, photo students - they all photograph kind of similar way. Studies in art, perspective and that enviroment pushed creativity has done its work. In this you are right artist just uses different medium. But approach to work - Jessica has more of a pro photographer in her apporach than artist. And it is not bad thing, she still has her way to see stuff, it is just very different working method - regardless of medium.
Mr Nobody I think all the differences you’ve mention come down to “fine artist” vs “commercial artist”, not neccessarily artist vs pro photographer.
To be a painter, you need to know composition, color theory, lights and darks. A painter also needs amazing photo references, or to paint from life in order to create the best paintings possible. In college I took a class in black and white photography. Although I had never taken any kind of photography class before, my background in art, pencil rendering, and painting made photography easy for me. Easy in the sense of knowing composition, the balance of black, grays, and white, and a dynamic focal point. However I was never competent enough with a camera to create an out of focus background to bring more focus on the subject of the photo, or to take action shots. What I did learn about pencil, ink, and painting did transfer over to taking great photos to use as references for painting. Although I would have liked to be able to take even greater artistic photos, painting is expensive, and priorities, so yeah.
angelica is so chill?? I could never, and I'm an artist myself
Is that a question or you just don't know how to write a sentence?
@@Sbayo9 It's kind of a question sentence. Like op is saying they're unsure or in disbelief. It isn't uncommon.
5:45 I loveeee Angelica’s second picture! Something about all the lines in the background going in different directions (vertical, horizontal and diagonal). And it’s all captured nicely in the frame
Also, there’s something so calming about Angelica 💗
her great eye for composition carries through
I love BOTH.
One is aesthetic shot (Angelica), the others is editorial/high fashion (Jessica).
Hey Jessica, would you ever consider doing a "4 photographers shoot the same model" episode but with you and 3 subscribers/fans? You could have have a drawing or randomly pick 3 subscribers to meet up and do a photoshoot.
Theres an artist who knows also how to take good pictures.
I started understanding the difference between when Jessica said: first thing first, I have to switch this to manual 🙌🏼
I'm an artist that does photography too 😁. I've noticed that in comparison to my other photographer friends they say I take photos way differently than they do and I didn't know what they meant at the time but this really put it into context. The different styles of work are so clear here and I love the way you can see it in their photos😁.
Love the video. I already knew the shots would turn out amazing because you both are artist. Camera or brush, they’re just mediums used to create the art. It is always good to observe another artist perspective. As artist, we never stop learning new ways to be creative!!
I always love Jessica's photos, but Angelica's photos were super interesting. The artist brain obviously kicked in, and it was very clear to see. Her choices to combine different patterns and textures made for an awesome composition; not to mention the color scheme of the final shots were on point.
“Aahhhhh my knees” literally me in every shoot
Hello! as an artist, who loves photography it will be very interesting to watch!
When Anisa started posing it's like she flipped on a switch to model mode and it was almost like she became a completely different person. They way she composed her self, how she knew how to work the angles of her face and tilt her head and body certain ways - it totally made me realize that modeling is an ART. Fascinating to watch it unfold! I also loved Angelica's energy, it was so calm, grounding, and controlled.
Angelica's frames look amazing. She has good eye. Love the perspective on the frames you showed in the vid.
7:23 that knee thing is so relatable, i have the same problem while shooting crunching down😂😂
is it just me or did those chunky boots just turn into some clunky heels when jessica was shooting
Renged Akiwo she changed them towards the end of my shoot for some shots!
As an artist myself we’re very “in our head” I don’t think I’d have spoken much or given much direction either if I want to be honest. Verbal communication isn’t the forte (at least for me)
That's because the right side of the brain is the creative side, where as the left side is in command of language. Keeping time is also done on the left. This is why painters will lose all track of time while painting. Talking to others will pull an artist out of that creative mode. However long time artists can more easily and quickly enter back into it.
The blue tile background is just stunning. Great shots!
I really liked how even though the two were "competing" they were still helping each other and stuff. I also REALLY liked the super blue background color of that building. Good on the artist for noticing it! Great shots, everyone!
The artist did really well if I didn't know who took the pics,I would've thought hers was done by a professional
Love how their names both end in "ica"
It would be really interesting to see an analog photographer versus digital. I do film photography myself and I think seeing the different approaches would be interesting especially with film having the extra task of light metering and adjusting f stop and shutter speed on a manual camera.
@10:39 - Some great pictures on both sides.
I think Jessica's shots were great "portraits" and Angelica's shots were great "art".
Ie: Jessica's subject was the model, but Angelica's was the larger composition.
I could watch these all day!! But I have already binged all of them 😭
They both have such different perspectives.
I love both of their photos for different reasons. Jessica's are more of what I picture (pardon the pun) traditional photos to be while Angelica's are dynamic in their composition.
Beautiful job ladies!
I loved Anisa's attitude, helping to keep everybody focused on the job. Such a pro👏👏👏
Jessica all calm and collected like she isn't the most awesome photographer ever! We know! Can't fool us. You are the bestest! :)
Im a pro photographer and I'm just as quiet and chill as Angelica lol
im like shook at this concept, because photography is a form of art! hearing jessica say she's not an artist made me question everything and everyone
11:51 This looks like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez comforting her kids because the mall is closed due to corona and they get no ice cream.
How awesome is Anisa?!? GOOD job!!
Cool casual video, Jessica!
Thanks for sharing.
Her oil paintings are stunning!
Nearly forgot that Jessica started with a 60D. In canon terms, that means a dual dial setup with the rear dial set to controlling the F-stop. Rebel cameras require either using the Quick menu + Main dial or hold down A/v (Aperture value) and then turn the main dial
I love Angelica's pictures at the first location, and I love Jessica's portrait picture at the second location! Great job ladies!
From an artist perspective, a lot transfers over to photography.
Super fun video! Angelica did a great job! Her pics were really creative & artistic. The model was effortlessly beautiful & talented. You could tell she knew her angles & could pose. And Jessica, you were great, as always!
Both of you are great ! Love the different photography styles that both of you have ! Great learning experience from both of you !
The model is stunning, the outfit 💙
you both shot so great, every one be having their owns vibes in their photographs.
Even that she is an amateur at photographing she had a pro model which made it so much easier. Love the to see here so calm even that she only had 5min :D
Anisa guuuurl you are so tall and uniquely beautiful 🌟💛 Angelica second set of photos is sooo nice!
Angelica did great and her photos are good too, This her first time doing photography WOW! Like this got me want to do both. ❤
I love the video for three amazing women's.
This is an interesting topic! I mostly paint instead of photography because I think photography doesn’t align with my vision enough. I’m sure it would if I had all the means necessary, but what I love about art is that I usually have everything I need and can create it all from scratch. Big bonus is the lack of technical issues. Mixed media is a great combo though!!!
I'm from Michigan and I been doing photography for a few years. My twin daughters got me into it. I like different cameras for different pictures. Angelica pictures was more my type. My daughter Catherine is into oil painting and sketching also
Angelica did amazing on the second round, really creative ideas I loved it
this is kind funny to me cuz when I was talking to the teacher at my school who runs the yearbook class and she told me that if I had any friends that may be interested in yearbook to recruit them BUT they can't be an artist (like painting and etc) cuz they take too long to work😂
It's because an artist uses the right side of the brain to create, and knowing the passage of time is done on the left side of the brain. An artist in the "zone" loses all sense of time passing.
Early bird, with love for Jessica and her sweet personalty ✨💐💐💐
I’m interested to know when you do one of these vs challenges does the other person edit their own photos?
I’m ready! This seems so fun.
The fact you guys didn’t use the Orange on wall past the stairwell gave me anxiety
That is the first location I gravitated to as well.
Amazing video as always, Jessica. Your videos always help to satiate the desire to go out and shoot especially in the situation we are in at the moment. Thank you for coming out with videos like this for all of us in the meantime.
What interests me the most in this video is when you used Angelica's camera to shoot and still create amazing portraits with it. I feel that would be an area that you may wish to explore in future videos i.e. doing photoshoots using beginner or entry-level cameras. I'm sure a significant amount of your audience would find value in learning how art can be created regardless of the price of the equipment.
Anyway, thank you once again for this video and stay safe!
So cool to see Detroit I’m from Michigan so it’s always see these other places but never my own back yard
i love these vs. videos! obsessed with all the stair photos lol 🖤 🖤
Both exceptional. Loved all the photos.
Pretty model! Good look!
I really enjoyed the video as it also made me think of what I do right and what I do wrong.
Aww the model was so nice! 🥰
I love how you changed the camera!! So hard to switch back to the beginner camera.
I think both of them did really good! The photos came out great!😍
I think it took a bit for Angelica to get into the groove. But the artists eye came out in the second set. She used the blue background which worked much better with the second outfit. She also used the leading lines of the stairs (great artistic concept) along with the models very long legs. You could tell with her second set that she brought that fine art knowledge to the shoot. She also tended to shoot from below more which accentuated the models height to make it even more dramatic and powerful.
Man... what would it take to spend a day with Jessica, and get to shoot with her!🥺 goals
Reminiscing my first photoshoot with my canon rebel t series camera and kit lens, and how awkward it was lol. Jessica, I think you have to press the "Q" and then use the scroll wheel thingy to change the aperture! Awesome job from both!
Also, when you’re back in Detroit the Heidelberg Project would be a beautiful place for a photo shoot!
Can you please do a petite model challenge series? Male and Female! We don't often see a lot of models under 5'5! They are just as beautiful and deserve to see themselves as such.
When the nursery rhyme start popping im cracking up.. Btw happy ramadan.
I don't know if anyone has asked for it, but can you make a video with suggestions and guidelines of how the photographer should instruct the model to pose, where to place hands, positions. I always find it very difficult to give correct instructions to a model. I've never worked with professional model ( I assume they already know this stuff ), so this would help a lot.
youre my inspiration jessica! such a down to earth and very humble pro photographer!😊
Loved both sets of photos Angelica just could’ve edited a bit more but still great imo
That was great I enjoyed it. Next time do a competition between the two of you doing oil paintings.
Oh I'd love to see you work with someone in theatre on taking photos
That blue wall was so beautiful and had a lot of potential
I knew immediately where you were, I went to college right there, my dorm and classrooms are in the background!
The chat at the end was lovely; I enjoyed the video!
I’m learning so much! -from the models too!! 🤩 I have a couple friends who want to use me as a model and aside from feeling ugly (lol) I have no idea what to do when it comes to posing!
I live in Michigan why was I not in around Detroit
So beautiful People in this Video 😍
Such a cool challenge. Now how about doing painter vs. pro photographer IN PAINTING?
From Philippines hir!! wow!! so nice.. need my notebook and pen for the new idea :) i bought my 105 1.4 mm and review it.. wish I can shoot like that too :)
ive check your channel.. nice review.. its not about the gear.. its about how u see and appreciate the art of photography
noted yzshia!! thank you for viewing my channel :) im new and much appropriated that you visited :)
just enjoy what you do and everything will follow!!! :) can you put subtitle to ur vid :)
noted... ill put subtitle.. thank you for the tips
@@CHASZYTV yes please, put subtitle
Why would you be vocal and not calm while taking pictures ?
Both photographs has great composition maybe the only difference is in the technicality. I don't think the painter use DSLR a lot but nonetheless it was good.
I like Angelica's photos more. I feel like in the first location the felt when a camera should look at the subject from above or from below. In the second location she found more interesting backgrounds to me.
Hi jess, I really love your work and value your opinion as a photographer. You’re one of my biggest inspirations. I was just wondering if you have tips for beginners transitioning into using manual rather than P or A mode? I’m really intimidated and always worried about missing the shot if I try manual
This better be before quarantine x
Love how much you talk about your mom
Hey Jessica, I'm planning to buy my first camera but I'm confused between DSLR and a Mirrorless camera. Which one would you recommend?
the model is insanely beautiful
Jessica I love your photo challenges! You must come to Atlanta, I want to shadow you on a fun photo challenge; I'll dust off my Canon Gear!
Jessica as a fellow shorty- you should make a video about tips for photographic tallllll models! Half the time I’m shooting I wish I brought a stool!
Love Ur Photography. Thanks for being a constant inspiration. Much love from Bangladesh ♥️✨🇧🇩