Is it just me or every time I watch one of these videos I have the sensation to go spend money on my own truck ? Haha , got to love that diesel fever .
Well that does it, I'm pulling the trigger on my 14, good bye VGT. Thanks for all the info and showing how this thing drives on stock fuel... really clears up any doubt for the lot of us on the fence about which charger to spend the money on....
def a thumbs up for me... just based on the 2nd gen swap explanation as well as detailed descriptions. I don't know much about newer dodges. so the descriptions and explanations on everything is awesome. take note video makers, this guy is good. BTW, NICE TRUCK.
I’m very impressed how quick it spins. Fuel n injectors on a 5.9 should push some numbers I’d think 🤔. I was set on a 362 til I watched this video again 🤦♂️.
I have a 2008 6.7 mega, I swapped for a nv5600 out of a 01 24v, bigger input, because I blew the 68. Everything is great, but I'm pretty sure I blew the HG. So doing all that with 625s, I had 425s, but going 625s, and 110# valve springs and rods. I am wanting to go to a 2nd gen swap, but thinking of a s366, so I can eventually compound it later in life.
Honestly do yourself a favor, with a 6.7 and the flow it produces go a little bigger, it will still spool better than stock, but whatever you feel comfortable with man, great choice with the 625's
GREG_ALBERALLA well I plan to do compounds later on. Dual fueler, 100 or 200 over nozzles. This way I can get rid of that stock turbo and that drive by pressure
I have a 2011 6.7 with 68rfe. VGT turbo is currently stuck open... is has around 160 thousand miles or 274 thousand km’s. I spoke to my tuner and he said that fixed vain turbos don’t pull nearly as well and (you lose low end power ) is basically what I understood. He also said the VGT turbo is better for tuning purposes because it constantly spools the turbo up faster. I’m currently deleted with 5” straight pipe , I have studs I just need to put them in. and I do not want another turbo failure. Not to mention the VGT stock holset turbo new from bd is like 2500$ and the 2nd Gen swap is around the same price. I mainly daily the truck and pull light stuff ( under 10 thousand pounds ) I’m considering a BD s463 or s461 2nd Gen swap because my family’s shop is a BD dealer. I’m still trying to decide what to do. I really like the sound of a 2nd Gen swap and if it works for Greg A and he pulls 15k with a s467.7 it should be good enough for me.
Sweet truck, I bought a low mileage 2008 2500 6.7l 6 speed this summer. First diesel truck, I notice it had a lot of turbo lag especially when shifting with a load. My friend has a 2006 5.9L 6 speed and it has zero to no lag, both trucks 100% stock. I don't know which tuner to purchase for the deletes and what not, but I need to do something.
i either want the s400 or the 4094 in my LBZ i like the vanes thou for towing there great for braking but i like the price of s400 ive never had any problems with my vanes on my stock turbo an its sounds sick when ur at a stop light an they adjust
I have the same set up on my truck and absolutely love it. I couldn't have described Borg Warner any better. I have been nothing but pleased with how much truck runs with this set up. Have you dynoed this truck to see what it is putting down?
Got the p2262 code and took my turbo apart to clean noticed when I went to put it back together the veins we're bent and sticking. put a new vein in it and the code went away for 5k miles and now the code is back.. thinking about just doing a second gen turbo.. p2262 is really pissing me off!
I have a 2012 6.7 cummins. I sadly have a 68 RFE tranny. that doesn't feel the strongest now do you think it would give me transmission problems. I don't beat my truck it cost to much to fix but if I put this in my truck would it give it to much power for a stock automatic transmission. I have EFI live already but everythings stock on it.
You're killing it with the videos man! Excellent quality. I wanted to confirming stock fuel as in no aftermarket fuel pump either, correct? Real nice truck! Also that truck an auto trans?
GREG_ALBERALLA I appreciate the reply! Manual is just icing on the cake. Always go that direction for a tow rig. What a beauty. Thanks to you I'll be looking at doing this exact 2nd gen manifold/turbo swap after my current BD Super B single needs replacing. Sounds like a solid combination for its application. Also interesting you mentioned Gordon at Innovative Diesel, recently spoke to him about getting some tuning done. Nice to hear another recommendation for him there. You know the limit on boost for that turbo staying within efficiency? I see that boost gauge is ready to show a whole lot more.
It can def handle more than what its seeing now, I have a pretty high PSI gauge in it now just to avoid needing a larger one if plans for the truck happen to change down the road.
ive got a friend who bought a 3rd gen 2 months ago and this things is dumb fast. its a 6spd ccsb its got a dyno proven 980hp. my buddy so scared of getting into it he hasnt taken it out of economy and thats at 650hp. but hes on a stock bottom end still
What A/R is the turbine housing on this setup? would having an automatic trans make any difference to the way it preforms? looking doing this to my 2012 limited 3500 dually. Thanks!
I'm wanting to go with pretty much the same turbo set up you are running but I'm worried about the steed speed manifold giving me figment issues with the down pipe, hot pipe, and shock tower. Did you have any problems with yours? And great videos sir keep them coming
THENOTHING24 what the fuck is a 6.4? I keep on hearing about a 6.4L Cummins? WTF! Cummins only makes or had made 5.9L 6.7L and 2.8L and something else that's for tractors and something else. And obviously Semi Engines..
Do_it_with_Zane_117's_vlog's a 6.4l is a 6.7l cummins block that has a 5.9l crank in it it gives it better rod angles to go to higher rpm but a big bore to spool a large turbo
How is it for surge? Any specific RPM and boost that has nasty surge? I've been running a S366/74 and the compressor surge between 1600 and 2000rpm at around 15-20psi is so bad that I'm done and changing chargers.
Im lookin to 2nd gen swap my 16 megacab soon im on the fence between an s464, s467, or the sxe369fmw kit. Whats your opinion ? Truck is a g56 and ill be doing efi live with possible 75-90 hp nozzles eventually. Oh and i should say i want a turbo with a loud whistle haha Thx
How did the turbo swap affect mpg(city/highway)? My stock 6.7 mega-cab would get about 15-16 city and 21-23mpg highway(Unloaded). Also I have the 68rfe auto. Thanks. Awesome truck Btw.
I think if anything it might be around the same if not a little better, its also a little harder to not enjoy the new power so therefore the right foot leads to worse fuel mileage. But if you can retain the same driving it should be a little better I think, I never monitored mine. acceleration defiantly is a little more effortless. hope that helps a bit, thanks!
Do you think this Charger would work well with a 12 valve? It is a 97 5-speed, so 215 ppump, fuel plate pulled, 4k gsk, AFC done for no fuel plate, I can't remember if the timing was advanced. All the mods were done to the truck by a diesel shop before I purchased the truck. Doing head studs right now, do you think with some bigger injectors and some tinkering it could light this charger efficiently and give me room to grow?.. Or would you suggest a S363?
on a 12V I would def tend to recommend something smaller, these newer trucks just tender to spool larger frame chargers easier, something like the new see 369 can support some good power and still have great all around manners, hope that helps some.
My 96 12v with a 64/74/14 pushes 60 psi and the egt's are at about 1300 to 1400 and that kinda scares me......truck was dynoed at 500 whp so it can handle the boost but idk about the temps
Def getting a little warm for sure, but if your only seeing that at WOT then when your driving around normal I wouldn't worry about it, but eventually down the road you'll know you need some more air.
Was it laggy or feel under powered with stock fuel? I can get a hell of a deal on a 467/67 full 2nd gen swap, I’ve already got custom tuning and an air dog fuel system and just put a brand new transmission in... but running this setup on stock fuel makes me a little ehhh...? What’s your opinion man...?
so your truck is completely deleted. I just bought a 2015 Ram 3500 6.7. I have a 4 year unlimited warranty from Ram. What do you think Delete now and get rebate on warranty or wait until after the 4 years? what worries me about deleting is noise and smoke. where I live would not be an issue but what I use the truck for it couldn't be noisy or Smokey.
Yes it is, my brothers previous truck was a 2012 and he bought it with 7k miles on it, doesn't sound like much right, he always ran the exhaust brake to try and reduce soot build up in the egr system that recirculates back into the engine. When we deleted it at 7k miles the soot build up was enough for me to recommend to people to delete asap, I understand the drawback of possible warrantee but lot of warrantee issues are caused by this, maybe wait 5/10k make sure it solid and then go for it! There are ways in tuning and a good exhaust to not be smokey but you will pick up some noise even with a good muffler/s.
GREG_ALBERALLA that is my big concern. I read a while back about running the exhaust brake all the time and I do. so far it is a solid truck. I said 2015 but I ment 2016. I have not had a lot of time to pull or haul with the 6000 miles on it. I have noticed the transmission doing things that I'm not use to seeing or feeling but I'm thinking that its because of not working it as hard as I should in the beginning. I will be this week hauling 1 to 2 tons at a time for about 4 runs. in hoping to see a boost in mph even 1 mpg after that. most of my driving is on the road and not much start and stop. I do tend to let it ideal to much but it is cold here and I want a warm truck. I think your right about the delete. over these next few months Ill push it harder and then deleted before 10k well maybe 15k.
me my dad and my brother have a 10-12-and mine is a 13 even stock the soot will build up and clog the egr and vgt. my brother and dad have all deletes. I found that with mine I tow 16,000 pounds every weekend in the summer and I have no trouble with soot. in the winter when I done tow it plugs up bad exp if the truck sits and idles. so to fix I just tow the trailer about onece a month and it burns the vgt and egr clean.
i just deleted my 16 ram 2500 bought brand new with 2 miles on it.. i waited til 10k just to be safe... best decision ever.. i did full deletes , so throttle body, egr, dpf, DEF , CCV ... couldnt be happier..
Thanks, both 5.9 and 6.7 common rail engines are solid platforms to work off of, and everything has its pros and cons the 48 transmission is gonna be a better option than the 68 in any 6.7 truck. you can always swap short blocks if you wanted the 6.7 motor, everything is interchangeable just takes some money. hope that helps some.
what turbo would you recommend for the 2003 5.9cr right now i have a CP3K and fass150 just had my sticks pulled and tested & acouple replaced .. so all is good with my fuel system .. my truck isn't a tow rig 24/7 id say I'm about 35-40% towing with it. and its time for a turbo before i push it to far.. right now I'm about 30-33psi .with little shaft play. truck has 415,000 and runs like its 80,000 .
My cousin just got done swapping his. I figured it would get pricey with the tuning to fool the computer. However, he said that the truck still thinks it has a 5.9 in his truck.
Hey thanks for all the information. I know you said your truck is completely stock aside from what you mentioned in the video. how much boost do you feel comfortable running on stock head bolts?
Greg! I bout a an s467.7 for my 6.7 and I have plans to do the fuel system. But for now would you say it’s worth the extra money for the arp 625’s or will I be okay with 425’s!?
Hey Greg, was wondering whats your complete gauge setup? i know you use isspro but what all do you monitor, and what did you use to mount them i noticed in a more recent video you have some on the pillar as well as on the steering column. looked like a good set up but didn't look like a kit more like something you put together. something you seem to be great at. Thinking about ordering some gauges for my truck just doing my research first. Thanks!
I only see 30 psi max boost on a 2010 cab and chassis (yes still a third gen) with full deletes and h&s mini maxx on wild tune should i see higher boost? Stock besides deletes and mini maxx
Personally I feel that going away from a Vgt turbo is a step backwards doing these swaps. A vgt offers so much more in adjustability, engine braking and superior spool up
you can always go with the Fleece cheetah setup. its a 63mm turbo so a little bigger than stock. if you want more info on them you can email me. traber1535@gmail.com
Taylor Raber looking at sending a he351ve to turbo labs of America for there machined up grade 67-70 package, a lot cheaper then buying the fleece cheetah.
VGT performs great until the veins get stuck open with sooty exhaust. I feel that VGT would be a perfect match for gasoline applications. Otherwise its a time-bomb waiting to happen.
drunkinmaster1 if the truck is poorly tuned and is blowing a lot of soot then it's not only effecting the turbo. With a properly programmed engine you gain a lot more control and can run the engine cleaner which prolongs the longevity of the turbo vanes not being carbonated up and sticking. It's easy to clean the vanes if need be and the he351ve is cheap to rebuild. It's time for the aftermarket world to step into the 21st century and take advantage of a better technology.
Even on a stock tuned diesel, VGT's have had issues. Not knocking the performance potential. It's just something more to go wrong in some people's mind.
Did you keep your CCV Filter? How do you get rid of the perform service message on your over head display? If you kept it how do you keep the suction without it plumbed into your intake?
I have no CCV Filter, never had a issue with the light and a crankcase vent doesn't require suction, There are threads online or I can make a video on exactly what I did, basically have a gut a ccv filter and keep part of the base.
GREG_ALBERALLA I did it to mine just have the reminder no actual code. And I'm assuming the suction was to help pull to oil into the original filter set up. I've seen the threads but never seen a video on it. Might be worth the effort.
Hey Greg, I'm need some traction bars for my 2012 and like the way the setup looks on your tow pig. My 12 is a mega cab so long bed frame and didn't know if you could share what setup you are running on here? Thanks and keep up the videos!
Right on! Thanks. Saw one of your videos asking for suggestions and didn't wanna ask twice as I appreciate it. Love the videos. You given me a bunch of ideas for my setup now. Thanks again.
Any experience with the 369sxe. Trying to decide between that and the 467. What would you recommend for stock fuel. Im guessing your running it with the 83/.9 housing. I basically have same truck except 2010.
yes a 83/.9. I love the new sxe line, they are a great option. But In my opinion when possible a s400 base charger gets my vote over a s300 frame. Max power out of a 369 is roughly 700 ish which is awesome, these 467.7's i have seen much more. Hopefully that helps some.
Hey man love your channel. Could you do a video comparing your opinions on the nv5600 vs the g56. I am planning on replacing my 02 single wheel 2wd auto soon. I want efi live but can only get it with the g56 and have heard a lot of bad things about it. Figured with your pulling experience you would be a good person to ask. Thanks in advance for any and all help.
The HE351VGT on the 6.7 does not have "vanes". They have a variable nozzle which is just one moving piece. This makes it better than the Garret vane type in Fords and VW's that have dozens of moving parts.
Greg, great videos. I love my 5.9 Cummins. Air Dog 150, 4" straight pipe Smarty Jr. Is there anything else I can do to get better mileage? I baby it and get 16mpg, its a 4X4, 6" lift. So I know that's hurting it. Fresh air intake? Better turbo? What do you recommend? Thanks, Matt
I was looking into them, but from the research I found some people were seeing higher temps towing with them, I think the stock clutch style is stronger and more reliable at the end of the day.
hey question. you said on complity stock truck does that mean head studs as well?? i have two trucks i have and 1994 12v with my egts way to high. and an 03 6speed thats my tow rig thats complity stock other then cold air and smarty so6. could i run say that size turbo on stock head studs?
What is the horsepower I have a 6.7 that is pretty much your exact set up besides turbo. I want the s467 but wondering what power your making and what are the specs on turbo?
How did you get the coolant up pipe that would normally go into the EGR cooler out of the way of the manifold? Did you just take it out or reroute it somehow?
most people when refering to a "2nd gen swap" i usually just refering to the manifold. other thing need to be changed to accommodate this change, but in generalities, they are refering to the manifold.
The fan clutch is more reliable and stronger than electric fans, When I did the research on them for my other truck I found a couple people doing towing that the electric fans were not keeping up vs the fan clutch style.
I have a 2003 ram 3500 Cummings and I have a problem ...It heats up when I go past 70 mph do you have any idea why the truck starts heating up way past the normal ... please respond
Unfortunately its almost impossible for me to diagnose your truck over the internet, just too many variables to account for. I'm assuming your talking about your coolant temp? Sounds like a cooling system problem, water pump, thermostat. Again I can really only guess.
Is it just me or every time I watch one of these videos I have the sensation to go spend money on my own truck ? Haha , got to love that diesel fever .
Well that does it, I'm pulling the trigger on my 14, good bye VGT. Thanks for all the info and showing how this thing drives on stock fuel... really clears up any doubt for the lot of us on the fence about which charger to spend the money on....
No problem, glad I could help, thanks
def a thumbs up for me... just based on the 2nd gen swap explanation as well as detailed descriptions. I don't know much about newer dodges. so the descriptions and explanations on everything is awesome. take note video makers, this guy is good. BTW, NICE TRUCK.
Thanks!!
bro u are like the gods when it comes to dodge cummins trucks keep up the great vid like always
Haha thanks man, appreciate the support
Man I love your videos. You are not only a good UA-camr but your explanation and the feed back you give is just awesome.
That engine looks so sick. I just bought a 2015 3500 cummins short bed I absolutley love it can't wait to start messing around with it. Great truck.
Thank You! You'll love it!
I've been wanting to do a 2ns gen swap so bad. Just costs money, lol. Keep up the excellent quality my friend!!
Thanks! appreciate it!
5.9=Life.
I’m very impressed how quick it spins. Fuel n injectors on a 5.9 should push some numbers I’d think 🤔. I was set on a 362 til I watched this video again 🤦♂️.
that sound gave me wood
Facts!!!
I wish my daily spooled up like a built cummins motor...
I have a 2008 6.7 mega, I swapped for a nv5600 out of a 01 24v, bigger input, because I blew the 68. Everything is great, but I'm pretty sure I blew the HG. So doing all that with 625s, I had 425s, but going 625s, and 110# valve springs and rods. I am wanting to go to a 2nd gen swap, but thinking of a s366, so I can eventually compound it later in life.
Honestly do yourself a favor, with a 6.7 and the flow it produces go a little bigger, it will still spool better than stock, but whatever you feel comfortable with man, great choice with the 625's
GREG_ALBERALLA well I plan to do compounds later on. Dual fueler, 100 or 200 over nozzles. This way I can get rid of that stock turbo and that drive by pressure
ouv hey man you did a 68rfe to nv5600, was it a lot of work ? and how do you like it ? I have a 2015 I wanna swap 68rfe is about to go
I have a 2011 6.7 with 68rfe. VGT turbo is currently stuck open... is has around 160 thousand miles or 274 thousand km’s. I spoke to my tuner and he said that fixed vain turbos don’t pull nearly as well and (you lose low end power ) is basically what I understood. He also said the VGT turbo is better for tuning purposes because it constantly spools the turbo up faster. I’m currently deleted with 5” straight pipe , I have studs I just need to put them in. and I do not want another turbo failure. Not to mention the VGT stock holset turbo new from bd is like 2500$ and the 2nd Gen swap is around the same price. I mainly daily the truck and pull light stuff ( under 10 thousand pounds ) I’m considering a BD s463 or s461 2nd Gen swap because my family’s shop is a BD dealer. I’m still trying to decide what to do. I really like the sound of a 2nd Gen swap and if it works for Greg A and he pulls 15k with a s467.7 it should be good enough for me.
Sweet truck, I bought a low mileage 2008 2500 6.7l 6 speed this summer. First diesel truck, I notice it had a lot of turbo lag especially when shifting with a load. My friend has a 2006 5.9L 6 speed and it has zero to no lag, both trucks 100% stock. I don't know which tuner to purchase for the deletes and what not, but I need to do something.
Great videos man! Favorite UA-cam channel now by far keep em coming!!
Thank you! I appreciate that!
I have the exact same setup but with a bd manifold 3 piece and me cruising at 70 mph I only hit about 2-3 psi I also have auto
i either want the s400 or the 4094 in my LBZ i like the vanes thou for towing there great for braking but i like the price of s400 ive never had any problems with my vanes on my stock turbo an its sounds sick when ur at a stop light an they adjust
I have the same set up on my truck and absolutely love it. I couldn't have described Borg Warner any better. I have been nothing but pleased with how much truck runs with this set up. Have you dynoed this truck to see what it is putting down?
coming soon is upcoming spring
Got the p2262 code and took my turbo apart to clean noticed when I went to put it back together the veins we're bent and sticking. put a new vein in it and the code went away for 5k miles and now the code is back.. thinking about just doing a second gen turbo.. p2262 is really pissing me off!
I have a 2012 6.7 cummins. I sadly have a 68 RFE tranny. that doesn't feel the strongest now do you think it would give me transmission problems. I don't beat my truck it cost to much to fix but if I put this in my truck would it give it to much power for a stock automatic transmission. I have EFI live already but everythings stock on it.
You're killing it with the videos man! Excellent quality. I wanted to confirming stock fuel as in no aftermarket fuel pump either, correct? Real nice truck! Also that truck an auto trans?
Thanks as always! Yes 100% stock for now, but it is a 6speed manual truck.
GREG_ALBERALLA I appreciate the reply! Manual is just icing on the cake. Always go that direction for a tow rig. What a beauty. Thanks to you I'll be looking at doing this exact 2nd gen manifold/turbo swap after my current BD Super B single needs replacing. Sounds like a solid combination for its application. Also interesting you mentioned Gordon at Innovative Diesel, recently spoke to him about getting some tuning done. Nice to hear another recommendation for him there. You know the limit on boost for that turbo staying within efficiency? I see that boost gauge is ready to show a whole lot more.
It can def handle more than what its seeing now, I have a pretty high PSI gauge in it now just to avoid needing a larger one if plans for the truck happen to change down the road.
11 hundred thousand degrees??????
11 hundred, thousand. simple :)
Haha, I read this comment same time it was saidided ahaha
ive got a friend who bought a 3rd gen 2 months ago and this things is dumb fast. its a 6spd ccsb its got a dyno proven 980hp. my buddy so scared of getting into it he hasnt taken it out of economy and thats at 650hp. but hes on a stock bottom end still
What A/R is the turbine housing on this setup? would having an automatic trans make any difference to the way it preforms? looking doing this to my 2012 limited 3500 dually. Thanks!
I'm wanting to go with pretty much the same turbo set up you are running but I'm worried about the steed speed manifold giving me figment issues with the down pipe, hot pipe, and shock tower. Did you have any problems with yours? And great videos sir keep them coming
do a video like this about the triple turbos on the 6.4 I'd like to learn more about that set up
THENOTHING24 what the fuck is a 6.4? I keep on hearing about a 6.4L Cummins? WTF! Cummins only makes or had made 5.9L 6.7L and 2.8L and something else that's for tractors and something else. And obviously Semi Engines..
Do_it_with_Zane_117's_vlog's a 6.4l is a 6.7l cummins block that has a 5.9l crank in it it gives it better rod angles to go to higher rpm but a big bore to spool a large turbo
Cummins makes a 2.8L, 3.3L, 3.8L, 3.9L, 4.5L, 5.0L, 5.9L 6.7L, 8.3L, and on and on and on....
Erik Kovacs u forgot the 8.1
2.8 3.3 3.8 3.9 4.5 5.0 5.9 6.7 8.1 8.3 and a 9.2 i think
Are we talking source automotive like up here in clackamas?
How is it for surge? Any specific RPM and boost that has nasty surge? I've been running a S366/74 and the compressor surge between 1600 and 2000rpm at around 15-20psi is so bad that I'm done and changing chargers.
Will that 6.7 fit in my fiat?
Sarcastic Fuck It's worth a shot, rear mounted lol
Eric Campbell lol
Sarcastic Fuck it already is in a fiat
Sarcastic Fuck yeah just get rid of the fiat
What type of brackets do you have on your gauges, the ones on the side of your pillar? Really like the way that looks.
Greg A, I would like to know also!
That's quick boost!! What elevation are you at? We're at 6000ft, feels like every turbo is slow spooling!!
Im lookin to 2nd gen swap my 16 megacab soon im on the fence between an s464, s467, or the sxe369fmw kit. Whats your opinion ? Truck is a g56 and ill be doing efi live with possible 75-90 hp nozzles eventually. Oh and i should say i want a turbo with a loud whistle haha Thx
How did the turbo swap affect mpg(city/highway)? My stock 6.7 mega-cab would get about 15-16 city and 21-23mpg highway(Unloaded). Also I have the 68rfe auto. Thanks. Awesome truck Btw.
I think if anything it might be around the same if not a little better, its also a little harder to not enjoy the new power so therefore the right foot leads to worse fuel mileage. But if you can retain the same driving it should be a little better I think, I never monitored mine. acceleration defiantly is a little more effortless. hope that helps a bit, thanks!
how do you feel about fleece performance 2nd gen swap with their turbo. or should I work towards their 2nd gen swap with the good ol borg
Do you think this Charger would work well with a 12 valve? It is a 97 5-speed, so 215 ppump, fuel plate pulled, 4k gsk, AFC done for no fuel plate, I can't remember if the timing was advanced. All the mods were done to the truck by a diesel shop before I purchased the truck. Doing head studs right now, do you think with some bigger injectors and some tinkering it could light this charger efficiently and give me room to grow?.. Or would you suggest a S363?
on a 12V I would def tend to recommend something smaller, these newer trucks just tender to spool larger frame chargers easier, something like the new see 369 can support some good power and still have great all around manners, hope that helps some.
George Smith hx35 is what your truck has stock. He put a 2nd gen "94-02" turbo set up on his 4th gen drive dodge.
My 96 12v with a 64/74/14 pushes 60 psi and the egt's are at about 1300 to 1400 and that kinda scares me......truck was dynoed at 500 whp so it can handle the boost but idk about the temps
Def getting a little warm for sure, but if your only seeing that at WOT then when your driving around normal I wouldn't worry about it, but eventually down the road you'll know you need some more air.
What do you have for exhaust manifold? I changed mine from stock to steed-speed manifold and temps dropped about 500°
Was it laggy or feel under powered with stock fuel? I can get a hell of a deal on a 467/67 full 2nd gen swap, I’ve already got custom tuning and an air dog fuel system and just put a brand new transmission in... but running this setup on stock fuel makes me a little ehhh...? What’s your opinion man...?
More of this content my man!
What's your opinion difference between the fleece 67, borgwarner 67, and the bullseye 68 batmo turbo all s400 frames
so your truck is completely deleted. I just bought a 2015 Ram 3500 6.7. I have a 4 year unlimited warranty from Ram. What do you think Delete now and get rebate on warranty or wait until after the 4 years? what worries me about deleting is noise and smoke. where I live would not be an issue but what I use the truck for it couldn't be noisy or Smokey.
Yes it is, my brothers previous truck was a 2012 and he bought it with 7k miles on it, doesn't sound like much right, he always ran the exhaust brake to try and reduce soot build up in the egr system that recirculates back into the engine. When we deleted it at 7k miles the soot build up was enough for me to recommend to people to delete asap, I understand the drawback of possible warrantee but lot of warrantee issues are caused by this, maybe wait 5/10k make sure it solid and then go for it! There are ways in tuning and a good exhaust to not be smokey but you will pick up some noise even with a good muffler/s.
GREG_ALBERALLA that is my big concern. I read a while back about running the exhaust brake all the time and I do. so far it is a solid truck. I said 2015 but I ment 2016. I have not had a lot of time to pull or haul with the 6000 miles on it. I have noticed the transmission doing things that I'm not use to seeing or feeling but I'm thinking that its because of not working it as hard as I should in the beginning. I will be this week hauling 1 to 2 tons at a time for about 4 runs. in hoping to see a boost in mph even 1 mpg after that. most of my driving is on the road and not much start and stop. I do tend to let it ideal to much but it is cold here and I want a warm truck. I think your right about the delete. over these next few months Ill push it harder and then deleted before 10k well maybe 15k.
me my dad and my brother have a 10-12-and mine is a 13 even stock the soot will build up and clog the egr and vgt. my brother and dad have all deletes. I found that with mine I tow 16,000 pounds every weekend in the summer and I have no trouble with soot. in the winter when I done tow it plugs up bad exp if the truck sits and idles. so to fix I just tow the trailer about onece a month and it burns the vgt and egr clean.
i just deleted my 16 ram 2500 bought brand new with 2 miles on it.. i waited til 10k just to be safe... best decision ever.. i did full deletes , so throttle body, egr, dpf, DEF , CCV ... couldnt be happier..
brandon mayes what about the noise and smoke?
What are your opinions on 2003 cummins? What about time and money for a 5.9 to a 6.7 swap? I really like your trucks! I'm looking for one myself
Thanks, both 5.9 and 6.7 common rail engines are solid platforms to work off of, and everything has its pros and cons the 48 transmission is gonna be a better option than the 68 in any 6.7 truck. you can always swap short blocks if you wanted the 6.7 motor, everything is interchangeable just takes some money. hope that helps some.
GREG_ALBERALLA that was just what I was looking for thank you!
what turbo would you recommend for the 2003 5.9cr right now i have a CP3K and fass150 just had my sticks pulled and tested & acouple replaced .. so all is good with my fuel system .. my truck isn't a tow rig 24/7 id say I'm about 35-40% towing with it. and its time for a turbo before i push it to far.. right now I'm about 30-33psi .with little shaft play. truck has 415,000 and runs like its 80,000 .
My cousin just got done swapping his. I figured it would get pricey with the tuning to fool the computer. However, he said that the truck still thinks it has a 5.9 in his truck.
Taylor Raber oh sweet is he happy with it all done?
Clean dirty diesel 👌🏻
Hey thanks for all the information. I know you said your truck is completely stock aside from what you mentioned in the video. how much boost do you feel comfortable running on stock head bolts?
wouldn’t push more than 500 on stock head bolts
@@coreymartin2605 500 HP?
Greg! I bout a an s467.7 for my 6.7 and I have plans to do the fuel system. But for now would you say it’s worth the extra money for the arp 625’s or will I be okay with 425’s!?
Where are you monitoring the boost pressure from? Love the trucks keep up the vids
Hey Greg, was wondering whats your complete gauge setup? i know you use isspro but what all do you monitor, and what did you use to mount them i noticed in a more recent video you have some on the pillar as well as on the steering column. looked like a good set up but didn't look like a kit more like something you put together. something you seem to be great at. Thinking about ordering some gauges for my truck just doing my research first. Thanks!
If you don't mind sharing, what did a setup like this cost you?
awesome video awesome truck keep the videos coming
Thanks!
Hella sick tryck
Something about the sound of a Cummins. Gives me wood!
I only see 30 psi max boost on a 2010 cab and chassis (yes still a third gen) with full deletes and h&s mini maxx on wild tune should i see higher boost?
Stock besides deletes and mini maxx
Personally I feel that going away from a Vgt turbo is a step backwards doing these swaps. A vgt offers so much more in adjustability, engine braking and superior spool up
you can always go with the Fleece cheetah setup. its a 63mm turbo so a little bigger than stock. if you want more info on them you can email me. traber1535@gmail.com
Taylor Raber looking at sending a he351ve to turbo labs of America for there machined up grade 67-70 package, a lot cheaper then buying the fleece cheetah.
VGT performs great until the veins get stuck open with sooty exhaust.
I feel that VGT would be a perfect match for gasoline applications.
Otherwise its a time-bomb waiting to happen.
drunkinmaster1 if the truck is poorly tuned and is blowing a lot of soot then it's not only effecting the turbo. With a properly programmed engine you gain a lot more control and can run the engine cleaner which prolongs the longevity of the turbo vanes not being carbonated up and sticking. It's easy to clean the vanes if need be and the he351ve is cheap to rebuild. It's time for the aftermarket world to step into the 21st century and take advantage of a better technology.
Even on a stock tuned diesel, VGT's have had issues.
Not knocking the performance potential.
It's just something more to go wrong in some people's mind.
great video man. same set up I planned for my truck. have you dynod this truck yet?
Not yet, this upcoming year tho for sure
with correct tuning should push 600 you think? GREG_ALBERALLA
Did you keep your CCV Filter? How do you get rid of the perform service message on your over head display? If you kept it how do you keep the suction without it plumbed into your intake?
I have no CCV Filter, never had a issue with the light and a crankcase vent doesn't require suction, There are threads online or I can make a video on exactly what I did, basically have a gut a ccv filter and keep part of the base.
GREG_ALBERALLA I did it to mine just have the reminder no actual code. And I'm assuming the suction was to help pull to oil into the original filter set up. I've seen the threads but never seen a video on it. Might be worth the effort.
Hey Greg, I'm need some traction bars for my 2012 and like the way the setup looks on your tow pig. My 12 is a mega cab so long bed frame and didn't know if you could share what setup you are running on here? Thanks and keep up the videos!
Yup I will be doing one soon going over all that, Thanks
Right on! Thanks. Saw one of your videos asking for suggestions and didn't wanna ask twice as I appreciate it. Love the videos. You given me a bunch of ideas for my setup now. Thanks again.
Any experience with the 369sxe. Trying to decide between that and the 467. What would you recommend for stock fuel. Im guessing your running it with the 83/.9 housing. I basically have same truck except 2010.
yes a 83/.9. I love the new sxe line, they are a great option. But In my opinion when possible a s400 base charger gets my vote over a s300 frame. Max power out of a 369 is roughly 700 ish which is awesome, these 467.7's i have seen much more. Hopefully that helps some.
So now that you have experience with the fleece cheetah in the 2018. Which turbo do you prefer?
Hey man love your channel. Could you do a video comparing your opinions on the nv5600 vs the g56. I am planning on replacing my 02 single wheel 2wd auto soon. I want efi live but can only get it with the g56 and have heard a lot of bad things about it. Figured with your pulling experience you would be a good person to ask. Thanks in advance for any and all help.
The HE351VGT on the 6.7 does not have "vanes". They have a variable nozzle which is just one moving piece. This makes it better than the Garret vane type in Fords and VW's that have dozens of moving parts.
What is the gear ratio on this truck?
Is the s300 a good kit? Not a lot of towing done
Hey man I’m trying to build a 5.9 Cummins 24v tow rig if I could ask you some questions and get insight that’d help. I’m new to the diesel game
why would you put the oil feed on that side so it's sitting on the manifold move it to the other side away from it
Greg, great videos. I love my 5.9 Cummins. Air Dog 150, 4" straight pipe Smarty Jr.
Is there anything else I can do to get better mileage? I baby it and get 16mpg, its a 4X4, 6" lift. So I know that's hurting it. Fresh air intake? Better turbo? What do you recommend?
Thanks,
Matt
free spin hubs
Will a second gen swap give you better fuel mileage than a stock VGT?
I noticed you still have the factory clutch fan in your tow truck...whats your opinion about the aftermarket Electric fans?
I was looking into them, but from the research I found some people were seeing higher temps towing with them, I think the stock clutch style is stronger and more reliable at the end of the day.
.90 exhaust housing? would you recommend a .90 or a 1.0 housing for a stock fuel 6.7?
hey question. you said on complity stock truck does that mean head studs as well?? i have two trucks i have and 1994 12v with my egts way to high. and an 03 6speed thats my tow rig thats complity stock other then cold air and smarty so6. could i run say that size turbo on stock head studs?
No it does have head studs, and I would recommend them for sure
Is the turbo or the manifold gated? Nice build man!!!
No gates, Thanks
What is the horsepower I have a 6.7 that is pretty much your exact set up besides turbo. I want the s467 but wondering what power your making and what are the specs on turbo?
mine is a 67.7/83/.9 not exactly sure on power, this spring we'll get it on the dyno
when you put that turbo what happens to the wires that connect to the stock turbo
just tie them up, cap em off so they don't corrode then you can go back to stock if ever needed.. need tuning to prevent VGT codes aswell
How did you get the coolant up pipe that would normally go into the EGR cooler out of the way of the manifold? Did you just take it out or reroute it somehow?
Source Automotive makes a new pipe that reroutes
GREG_ALBERALLA Thanks!
so basically a 2ed gen swap in this is just the manifold and intake correct not literally swapping engines
I'm just a lil confused ive never heard of it before
yes
most people when refering to a "2nd gen swap" i usually just refering to the manifold. other thing need to be changed to accommodate this change, but in generalities, they are refering to the manifold.
Greg what hot side A/R are you using with this application
What do you think about a '92 12v stock h1c spooling to 30psi with stock fuel system?
I bought the exact same kit from source
Does 67 exducer by 86 turbine sound right?
Are you measuring any drive pressures with it?
How much psi can a 6.7 take before head studs should be put in ?
Mine runs 32-36lbs on the stock vgt,
chevyapache1959
mine runs on 40lbs on stock vgt, stock sticks, stock fuel system, h&s tuned, afe stage 2 cai
38 psi here
45 🤭😰
Are you able to put that 50 pounds of boost in without headstuds or do you happen to have that truck studded? new to your channel.
thanks!
Truck is Studded, def wouldn't recommend that without them, Thanks!
how come it seems like most people leave the clutch fan on instead of going with a electric fan for cooling
The fan clutch is more reliable and stronger than electric fans, When I did the research on them for my other truck I found a couple people doing towing that the electric fans were not keeping up vs the fan clutch style.
awesome thank you for the info
Where can I get the list of parts and materials?
GeegA I miss the 08
GORDON!! ALWAYS
Gordon Ramsey?
GREG_ALBERALLA. Where did you source the turbo and did you go with the 83 or 87 exhaust wheel?
All my turbo stuff is from barder turbo service, and 83 in this turbo for better spool/towing
how much do you have into the second gen swap?
What exhaust housing is on this? Sorry if i missed it.
I have a 2003 ram 3500 Cummings and I have a problem ...It heats up when I go past 70 mph do you have any idea why the truck starts heating up way past the normal ... please respond
Unfortunately its almost impossible for me to diagnose your truck over the internet, just too many variables to account for. I'm assuming your talking about your coolant temp? Sounds like a cooling system problem, water pump, thermostat. Again I can really only guess.
Thanks anyways water pump was my last check
@GREG_ALBERALLA where does your ccv run to and how is it setup?
Do you have any idea what HP numbers your current set up is making?
Not yet, hopefully in spring time
Who does your Powder-coating?
We're did you find those others gauge mounts you have mounted on the side of the pillar?
They are from AutoMeter
GREG_ALBERALLA ok thanks
What is the a/r on this turbo
Do you recommend the motor be studded when using that setup?
I would do head studs over 40lbs of boost
Thought you had a triple turbo truck!?
I have 2 a 2008 and a 2005
How does the turbo spool up compared to the stock VGT?
It is almost just as fast, even on stock fuel system it spools great, zero complaints.
How many Cummins (or other trucks) do you have
I have 2 total, a 2008 and a 2005
who would have thought a year later its 5 lol
Manual trans ?
What kind of fuel millage are you getting
pretty amazing to be at 50 psi with 6.7 id be scared what studs are u running
Have you shimmed the relief valve on fuel rail or added a plug?
Keep up the great videos!
What size tires and rear axle ratio?