ASTRONOMER listens to NIGHTWISH - SHOEMAKER (REACTION!)
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
- Listening to Shoemaker by Nightwish for the very first time!
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I grew up listening to music without knowing anything about what I was diving into...Just CDs with album art, lyric sheets, and the beauty of the music. Doing "research" on a song before listening isn't something I am used to doing, as the music always came first for me. But if there are other Nightwish songs I should check out that require research, let me know! Thanks for taking the time to check out my video, and let me know which Nightwish song I should look into and react to next!!👇
I understand. One does generally not prepare that way before going to a concert or a play. One does before going to an opera. (at least, i do). Knowing the background helps understanding the storyline. Nobody warned you that the Greatest Show is an opera, Poet and the Pendulum is opera, with heavy guitars and double base, but still most definitely opera. The other reason for preparing for nightwish songs, like this one, is that Tuomas is a poet who does not write lyrics in a self explanatory way.
@@andrelglinnenbank2856 That makes sense. As I said in the video, opera is not a style of music I am familiar with, but Nightwish definitely seems like a gateway into that style of music.
@@andrelglinnenbank2856 100%.
This song was/is approved by his widow.. She heard it before it was released. He was on the astronaut program as a astro-geologist but during training it was discovered that he had Addisons Disease and had to be dropped. He died in Australia heading to a newly discovered crater in the outback. A 1 gram of his ashes were sent on a lunar probe.
Just do whatever you are want & ignore the complaints :) Any good song should be able to stand on its own merits anyway. Knowing more about a song may help understanding what it is all about, but it does also create a preconception.
I was alive when Shoemaker’s ashes were taken to the Moon, but I had to be reminded about it when this song appeared. I’d forgotten. Thank you Nightwish for honoring the honor bestowed on this man.
Thank you Nightwish! Such beautiful music
I think knowing that Shoemaker is the only person whose ashes have been (partially) buried on the moon would make some lines more understandable. The are in a crater close to the south pole. So in a place of eternal Earthrise. Hence "Tucked in for eternal earthrise and wonder". There are also references to the Romeo and Juliet quote throughout the song. Knowing these things could have had a positive impact on your appreciation of lyrics to the song, even in first hearing. There are a couple of songs where the nighwish army suggests doing your home work before listening. This is one of them and there is a reason for that.
I hope for future suggestions the Nightwish fans will let me know which songs I should research before listening to. This would have been a good one, but I still very much enjoyed the music!
@@ianlauerastroreacts3495 You already did the greatest show on earth, generally this is advised to research, but most things that are mentioned in this song you should know. Like how the solar system was formed. The other main subject is evolution and the early history of the earth. I assume you knew that too. So for well educated scientists there is not so much need. If your background is, say, music, perhaps a little refreshing is called for, but, we don't supply links and everybody is on their own for finding references.
The other one that you preferably do some background on is The Poet and the Pendulum. Because that is about events that happened before you knew Nightwish. This is the firing of the First singer Tarja and the backlash towards Tuomas. That firing was not handled very sensitively, but I have not heard anyone with a suggestion on how to handle it better that convinces me. Lots of hindsight. Just as in a wedding, if not both partners agree that the marriage has come to an end, fighting will ensue and the kids (we as an audience) will suffer. This was Tarja and Tuomas first divorce, so a lot of rookie mistakes were made on both sides. If you are the number one band in the country, people will join in and point out what you did wrong. An overdose of that is not mentally healthy. For preparation: there are open letters by the band and by Tarja explaining why divorce was either inevitable or should have been postponed.
Most other songs that require background are science oriented, so no problem in your case, I assume.
@@andrelglinnenbank2856 NOT divorce. They weren't in a romantic relationship.
@@AGDinCA I know, mariage is seldom between 5 people. Being in a band is often compared to being in a mariage. When sombody leaves a band the impact is also compared to that of a divorce. I was referring to that common practice.
@@AGDinCA And still, check the lyrics for NIGHTWISH's first 5 albums at least. (I imagine you did, maybe revisit them. :)) They tell me, at least in a one-sided way, there was a romantic feeling involved. Letting it manifest through music.
What an honor to get such a song. Too bad he never got a chance to hear it.
Shoemakers has some of his ashes on the moon in a capsule with that Shakespeare quote so I see the last clip as his view from the resting place
A beautiful quote!
The "harpsichord" is in fact a dulcimer as stated later in the song. Eugene Shoemaker's wife died this year in her 90s. Earthrise is because some of his ashes are on the Moon in a casket with the quote from Romeo and Juliet engraved on it .
Ohh My, Ohh My, you summond the NightWish Army. I can hear them coming. :)
And yes, you have fallen into the big rabbit hole.
Wow, great reaction to a awesome Song. 🤘🤗 Laudato SI Ad Astra. Yes, it is Hommage from Tuomas to Eugene Shomaker. And in this Song, he want to bring Floor to a higher Level . Floor: ok Tuomas, hold my beer.😊i love this Woman 🥰
Technically, this song is a requiem.
@@machintelligence Hallo , yes, you are right. Floors outro is a Requiem. I hear it so many times, it is the perfect Word.🤘👍greetings from northern Germany
As far as I intrepid the lyrics, it's directed at the moon itself ("a sailor through aeons", "a ship that sailed home") according to the capture theory, with the male voice (Troy) speaking for the moon ("here I come to stay")
Gene Shoemaker was mainly specialised in meteor impacts both on earth as on other celestial bodies, especially the moon.
His ash is buried on the moon hence the eternal Earthrise, he was selected to go with the Appolo missions to the moon but was taken out the program due to an illness.
You might not realize this, but this one of the most difficult songs to ever try to duplicate. It is so tight and so hard vocally to sing that only floor could pull it off! She is amazing and so is the band. The rhythm section must follow the snare drum rolls to the tee. That is not easy to do even as a 40 yr veteran on guitar. I tried to follow and play along with this and it is a nightmare of perfection. Nightwish is a phenom like no other!
Cool reaction. I am an amateur astronomer and Nightwish fan and knew a bit about Shoemaker, but learned a bit more after discovering this song. I love the ending; it's just so epic and one of the most beautiful endings to any rock song.
6:40 that's not a new voice. It's the same lead singer from the rest of the song. Floor Jansen is just that good. She does everything.
What an incredible voice...!!
@@ianlauerastroreacts3495 This song stunned me live. I didn't know it well. They went through several I knew and it was amazing, and then they came to this. It was an indoor venue in NYC. Not that large, but an open room with three floors that could hold around 3000-4000 people I am guessing. I was told the acoustics in there weren't great, but I got a tip on the best place to stand for sound. The drums hit, and push my shirt into my chest, closing the little space of air there on every hit of the drums, and her voice was even more powerful than I expected, from watching other reaction videos before I went to the show. I was close enough to the stage to see her expressions really clearly. She got to this part and no way did she even need a mic. This studio track doesn't even come close. I can't even tell you. I do have a small clip that gives a better idea, but not even that comes close. My friend heard the start of it and after a bit captured the end of it. I was too stunned lol. Floor is the most amazing singer I have ever heard. Not just her range, as there are some out there that have a wider range, but her tone, agility between styles.
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Ad Astra - Praise be to the stars ✨
Another Nightwish song related to astronomy is Stargazers. React to the live performance at Tampere, it's mindblowing.
Great suggestion, and love the name of that song!
@@ianlauerastroreacts3495 trust me, you'll love the song itself more.
There's also another one, Sagan. It's actually one of my favourites but wasn't included on the Endless Forms Most Beautiful album. I have it in vinyl.
You see an earthrise when you're orbiting the moon, but from the surface, the Earth barely moves in the sky. It would be permanently floating on the horizon at the spot where Shoemaker's ashes are, hence the "eternal" earthrise.
Floor's voice in the 'Laudato si' is created with a technique called passagio . . . singing between her vocal registers. That she can do it this well, with this much power, is remarkable.
Lidato si, ad astra ... praise be to you , to the stars. I can’t think of a more wonderful way to be remembered. Although I’d love to also have my ashes sent out of solar system, not just the moon. Here’s to Eugene Schumacher and to tuomas and nighwish 👍
I'd enter Nightwish's "Ad Astra" as another suggestion for you. Not only is it an excellent piece, but it derives from and expresses Carl Sagan's "Pale Blue Dot" in a beautiful, meaningful, and yet accessible way.
Very good! I'll do some research on it and share my reaction :)
Well, I hate to say I told you so! :D Indeed, Shoemaker is the only person who's ashes are on another celestrial body, the moon. In the Shoemaker crater. I'm still here!
Thank you for founding your own personal journey in Nightwish's ocean of music, new subscriber here for that.
"Sagan" is another song they made, for Carl Sagan, in their 2015 studio album, "Endless Forms Most Beautiful". Unfortunately you'll not find a live performance for this one, but there are several very good fan-made videos, with lyrics, like this one: ua-cam.com/video/e4Ga-mKcGdU/v-deo.html
Greetings, from Romania!
Great suggestion. Carl Sagan is one of the reasons I studied astrophysics :)
@@ianlauerastroreacts3495 In the Ad Astro part of the second disc of Humane :||: Nature is the famous pale blue dot quote. (ua-cam.com/video/CiojddlKcAE/v-deo.html) Ad Astro as a preview of the album came out a few days after I talked about the pale blue dot in class. So I had to play this in class the next time I saw them.
As a Nightwish fan and as an amateur astronomer I felt like commenting. There is no earthrise unless you are orbiting the Moon. Well, maybe partial. You know, Marco, the basist, is a phenomenal amateur astronomer, you can talk about the Big Bang with him or dark matter or dark energy or planetary geology or whatever.
Very true, no Earthrise unless you are in orbit, or if you are travelling across the Moon :)
Well, it is _eternal_ earthrise... and the Moon wobbles so it is bit more complicated...
_An earthrise that might be witnessed from the surface of the Moon would be quite unlike moonrises on Earth. Because the Moon is tidally locked with the Earth, one side of the Moon always faces toward Earth. Interpretation of this fact would lead one to believe that the Earth's position is fixed on the lunar sky and no earthrises can occur; however, the Moon librates slightly, which causes the Earth to draw a Lissajous figure on the sky. This figure fits inside a rectangle 15°48' wide and 13°20' high (in angular dimensions), while the angular diameter of the Earth as seen from Moon is only about 2°. This means that earthrises are visible near the edge of the Earth-observable surface of the Moon (about 20% of the surface). Since a full libration cycle takes about 27 days, earthrises are very slow, and it takes about 48 hours for Earth to clear its diameter..._
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@@NetAndyCz Shoemaker's crater is near the south pole. I think that that makes the position of earth much more stable.
Or pet martians?
Because he rests in south pole, it's indeed eternal earthrise because Earth is just above the horizon all the time.
owh man. Shoemaker was one of the most famous geologist , studied craters and especially on the moon. There is a big crater on the moon called Shoemaker crater.
He was supposed to go to the moon (worked with NASA) but an unknown dissease prefented that to happen. it was his biggest dream to be on the moon.
He crashed in a caraccident (1997) and his ashe in an urn (with the poem of Shakespear on it incripted) was sent to the mon, to his crater. He is laying in rest on the moon.
That's why they told you about earthrise. He also studied astroids ofcourse, besided craters. Man, we learned this at school :D He's not dead for that long.
Do endlessness next! It's Nightwish's amazing meditation on time
Dude... he's laid to rest... on the moon.
Now you need to listen to Nanowar of Steel's "Uranus". One of the band members is one of Italy's top astrophysicists.
His ashes were sent to the moon. This is kind of the foundation of the song
Nearly all the music Tuomas writes has a significant meaning , and obviously the music and Floor is awesome
After this song, instant sub, though i did not have idea about you. Well done!
Greetings from Finland! 🤘🎶 🖤 🎸🇫🇮
It seems this song is very popular in the NASA community🤓
I can see why, what a beautiful homage to Shoemaker
I am still wondering if someone knows how the Shoemaker family has reacted
@@andrelglinnenbank2856 Well, if you don't mind checking another reaction to this song, you could look reaction by HalfLifeSistah, they have extensive video material about Shoemaker there, and towards the end of their reaction, the have there a bit from an interview with Caroline Shoemaker, not directly to this song but shot after her huband has been brought to Moon, and how she feels about it... nice...
@@SYNtemp I have seen that
@@andrelglinnenbank2856 : I have been told Tuomas sent first the lyrics and then the song to his widow for approval before they put it forward.
NASA love this song
Sagan-nightwish is about"Carl Sagan" another one in the stars
Doesn't sound like you are aware that Shoemaker's ashes were sent, and impacted on the Moon. Floor can make me tear up so easily. Thankfully.
Didn’t know much about Shoemaker, but this song has taught me a lot about him and his life. Very grateful for Nightwish for teaching me about Eugene!
Nightwish is never just about music, it is always deep, & uses all kinds of instruments to take you there. You need to research the ‘Poet & the Pendulum’ before doing that one. It is a about a traumatic time in Tuomas’ life, he is the Keyboardist, writer & composer! Symphonic Metal, they aren’t shy about going there. Very respectful people.
Great recommendation. I've definitely learned Nightwish requires much more than listening to the music...It makes me excited to check out more of their work!
@@ianlauerastroreacts3495 , looking forward to going on your travels with you. So much good music, always full of at least one of the emotions.
This guy was in a jubilee video about astrologers vs. astronomers.
Hahaha yes I was...it was, uh, an interesting experience
If jou like prog and like to be cought offcard you should check out Areyon's ' the day that the world breaks down'
If you want to stick with the astronomy theme, Black Hole by BAND-MAID could be next. If you want the live version (I think you should) they have an official live video that also includes their song "Manners". This is found on their UA-cam channel.
P.S. UA-cam comments statistics may show that I haven't watched your video. This is not true; I watch and comment on different devices.
He is a great educator.
Geez you people nitpicked this guy. Well I liked it. At least he reacted to NW.
Haha I actually don't mind, just means Nighwish has a very dedicated fanbase. You should see how nitpicky the Tool fans are 🤣
As an astronomer, you should be quite aware of Eugene Shoemaker, the main founder of planetary science.
you should check out Anthropocene by Being(and also a glorious dawn cover by them). very relevant lyrics and great music
They are one of my favorite groups! They have new music by the way!!
@@ianlauerastroreacts3495 yes. I literally had a fanboy moment when they released the new album. Never expected at all all of a sudden after years of radio silence.
Rough translation of the latin at the end. Laudato Si Ad Astra -> Carry the Glory to the Stars
What, specifically, is your area of study within astronomy? Your about page says you have astronomy content on your other channel, but no other channels are linked in your bio or on your Channel page.
I studied astrophysics at uni, after school I put together astronomical imaging systems for schools, observatories, government, etc. and also worked as a telescope operator. Now I do astrophotography for a living. I’ll check the links in my bio to make sure they work!
@@ianlauerastroreacts3495 Astrophotography? I love it! Were you able to get any good shots of Leonard?
Since you are looking for more music to check out, here is one you might enjoy. Alter Bridge, Words Darker Than Their Wings - ua-cam.com/video/fTvJ1TYORJg/v-deo.html&ab_channel=AlterBridge
Floor actually recorded the operatic part in her attic, because she was not satisfied with the 'studio' recording
Wow, that is an interesting tic bit of information. Thanks.
Hallo, i see the Interview from Floor. Its not the technalty side, she want to find her Vibes and Emotions of this part.And now, she sing it
live.🤘🤗
If you would like to react to a recommend song, I recommend the artist Aesthetic Perfection with the song Gods & Gold
Greeting Sir! Today, I would LOVE to suggest a brand new song entitled "Here Comes The Storm", from the French Canadian Black Metal project named "Obscurcis Romancia. Thank you very much and happy Holidays!!!
Only a vocal coach or singer understands how difficult this song is to sing ..Try Marco on lead vocals doing a Pink Floyd cover @ ua-cam.com/video/4oEDnVeYYyM/v-deo.html
I know the song is about Eugene Shoemaker and I don't know much about him, especially that he is the only human being to be laid to rest on the moon, but I will not research it at all and just jump right into the song. When I saw astronomer in the title, I was excited to have someone react to the song, who would really understand the song lyrics on a deep level, only to have it reacted to by someone who knows very little, very disappointing.
I will always blind react to music without researching, as it is where I find joy in the discovery process...the music always comes first! Now if someone specifically requests I look into a song's background before listening, I'm more than happy to oblige...but this wasn't the case with this song! Hopefully next time someone suggests a song that deserves research they'll let me know :)
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You completely missed the Shakespeare reference...
If you like Nightwish, please check out a new heavy metal band from Japan (formed in 2016) called Lovebites. It's an all-female band with two phenomenal guitarists who are as good or better than all the male guitarists who came before them. Check out their song "Holy War" live from Zepp Divercity. Here's the link: ua-cam.com/video/bgAxpEpEcno/v-deo.html
You have the room, make the video window larger so we can see better????
You want hear this song, with no idea what the song was written about????? I'm moving on 🤨
I did like your reaction. But I do take issue with the word "earthrise". On the moon, there is no earthrise. This is an error in the lyrics. Due to gravitational capture, the moon has stopped rotating relative to earth. We only see one side of the moon (remember Dark Side of the Moon by Pink Floyd). This means that on the dark side of the moon, the earth is never seen. On the light side, earth is always more or less visible in pretty much the same spot. No moving of the earth from one horizon to the other. It just shows phases like the moon does to us.
_An earthrise that might be witnessed from the surface of the Moon would be quite unlike moonrises on Earth. Because the Moon is tidally locked with the Earth, one side of the Moon always faces toward Earth. Interpretation of this fact would lead one to believe that the Earth's position is fixed on the lunar sky and no earthrises can occur; however, the Moon librates slightly, which causes the Earth to draw a Lissajous figure on the sky. This figure fits inside a rectangle 15°48' wide and 13°20' high (in angular dimensions), while the angular diameter of the Earth as seen from Moon is only about 2°. This means that earthrises are visible near the edge of the Earth-observable surface of the Moon (about 20% of the surface). Since a full libration cycle takes about 27 days, earthrises are very slow, and it takes about 48 hours for Earth to clear its diameter..._
Wikipedia
And it is not error in the lyrics, it is *_eternal_* earthrise for this very reason.
Looking back at this song and it's meaning, I'm curious why that lyric was used. You can get an Earthrise on the Moon if you are in a particular spot, as the Moon also wobbles on it's axis. Perhaps the lunar crater Shoemaker resides on is within this are of the Moon that experiences Earthrises? I'd have to look that up!
@@ianlauerastroreacts3495 I believe he is buried near the south pole in a dark crater, I was unable to find anything more specific (and have not really tried that hard), but it should be in that area where "earthrise" is visible.
@@ianlauerastroreacts3495 It is an eternal earth rise.... so his ashes must be in a place where you can see a part of the earth over the moon horizon....forever. You could debate if it is an earth rise if it is in a (nearly) static relative position...
Stop being pedants - and try to appreciate the poetic lyrics. The alternative is never understanding a Shakesperian quotation !
If current "astronomers" are completely missing failing their homework to just focus even more on the drums than on the lyrics and vocals - sorry, no sub and I had even to take back the regular thumb up i give at the beginning of a video, too. Disappointing. If this is the standard, we have ourselves to blame for projects like starlink and more and more light pollution. It should not be the watcher's job to give the "astronomer" the backstory.
I grew up listening to music without knowing anything about what I was diving into...Just CDs with album art, lyric sheets, and the beauty of the music. Doing "research" on a song before listening isn't something I am used to doing, as the music always came first for me. But if there are other Nightwish songs I should check out that require research, let me know! Thanks for your time checking out my video!