@@linkalot7415 You may have a point there in terms of them going a completely different direction. I’ll admit, my theory is a reaching in terms of saying it’s moving away from the Klaus Saga and it’s best case scenario for those who want to see the story continue. However, if they don’t go this route, I think it would be most beneficial for them to explore a completely unrelated plot line that has nothing to do with anything in the previous games other than it takes place in that same universe. Kind of a middle ground to what we’re both saying but the reality is anything’s possible! Also, I agree with you on your second point. I also don’t like the idea of there being another threat either and I even considered that route but the reality is, there’s no story or plot without a threat, challenge, or obstacle to overcome and thus no enemies to fight and no game. That’s why a lot of times, there’s a huge gap of time in between movies or story driven games. Because it makes sense for the world to be at peace for the amount of years they skipped which means there was no substantial story to be told within that timeframe.
@@linkalot7415 I didn’t take it as you bashing it all! Sorry if I came across rude, that wasn’t my intent! I just like talking about it and I get a little carried away. You brought up good points and I really do appreciate the input! The reality is I’m just a fan speculating about stuff so I could be way off lol Also I’m glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks for watching!
I think a more interesting idea would be following up on that falling star at the end of future redeemed. Where the plot this time will be that the descendants of the humans who were already colonizing the stars when Klaus' experiment happened, come back to the remerged Earth and decide to overtake it from the people of Bionis and Alrest. Because the old humans are more advanced technologically than the people of new Aionios there's a big class divide. As the old humans view themselves as superior to the people of Aionios. Basically, this idea would be following up on what was said on the radio about the Savorite Human Rights bill. And how that bill was likely going to be turned down. So a similar idea of fighting for human rights could be the central theme of the next game. It could also tie into Xenosaga as the star we see fall is actually KOS-MOS. And she's found by our new protagonist who helps get her repaired to help her complete her mission. Following up on the ending of Xenosaga 3. But that would ultimately depend on whether or not a Xenosaga Trilogy remaster retcons a bunch of stuff to fit perfectly with Xenoblade.
This sounds interesting as well. I definitely think it’s possible we could see this storyline. I’ll be honest, I don’t know as much about the pre-Klaus experiment side of the story or Xenosaga but I plan on playing the trilogy eventually. Once I do I bet I’d be even more pumped to see something like this! As long as we stay in this universe, I’ll be happy
I wouldnt be suprised if Monolith redid those games and make it line up more with Xenoblade, heck might even add a explanation why Kosmos is also in XC2
It’s still hard for me to get behind Shulk acting as a god moving forward in the Xenoblade universe. Some of his most pivotal character development in the first game was how he denied the status of a god so that everyone could choose for themselves how they wanted to live. Sure, Shulk could rule in a less involved manner, but I just can’t see him accepting the role of a god. A transcendent defender or protector? Sure! But just not a god.
That’s definitely a valid point! I will admit, I am using the term “god” a little too loosely. Maybe because gods aren’t all powerful as we see with zanza in the first game. I’m with you that it would be more likely that he’s somewhere in between god and man. Maybe even more like a demigod. Even though I lean in that direction with you and I probably just need to start referring to him as just a spirit or even demigod (until we get confirmation otherwise), let’s play devil’s advocate for a second. It definitely does seem out of character for him to accept the role of a god. However, the way I look at that scene where he turns the offer down, at that short point in time he is a god for seizing his destiny and killing one which is why Alvis called him “creator” and Shulk even said “I’m supposed to be the god.” So by making the choice to have a world without gods, he did kinda chose to be one whether he intended to or not. It was inescapable. Also, before he decided on having “a world with no gods” his prior statement makes me think it’s not that he didn’t want gods in the world. He simply wanted for people to choose their own destiny. Of course the logical conclusion is that we shouldn’t have any gods, but it’s also possibly to have a god simply watch over and protect the citizens of the world without being this tyrannical ruler. The good side of Klaus seemed to do a good job at that. He simply let the people of the world do as they pleased. Good or bad. Now, the representation of Shulk’s friends that Alvis showed to Shulk to hurry up his decision all say “yeah you shouldn’t be a god,” but that was Alvis’ simply what Alvis believed they would say based on the data he received from their personalities so there’s a very very slim chance he could’ve miscalculated that since he is basically a computer but for arguments sake, I’ll count that against my argument since it would be really unlikely. Having said all this, I am not claiming to understand Shulk and his character better than anyone else and I could be way off. I simply think this is one way to interpret it. Thanks for the input!
@@DerajjParallaxI think at the end of future redeemed Shulk, Rex and A are basically meant to represent the Gnosticism demiurge Here is the definition: a being responsible for the creation of the universe. (in Platonic philosophy) the Maker or Creator of the world. (in Gnosticism and other theological systems) a heavenly being, subordinate to the Supreme Being, that is considered to be the controller of the material world and antagonistic to all that is purely spiritual. Basically the last version is what I’m referring to where they are a supreme being(s) that is a creator / controller of the material world (or in their case guardians of the material / physical world) this to me fits well with how you explain them in this video where they are guardians of the conduit and also fits with the creator of xenoblade often referencing Gnosticism in his “Xeno” works or video games It also happens to fit my theory (and now that I think about it yours too just replace what I’m saying about the fog king with the conduit) about a new fog king being the main villain of the next game because the fog king would be a spiritual or immaterial being that is in direct opposition to or trying to destroy the material world
Shulk became an avatar with A and rex to fill the roles of the trinity processor, and technically could argue that rex and shulk were avatars put in place to take the place of pneuma and logos in the redevelopment of the worlds. So avatar sounds more like a proper term for shulk and the other 2
@@DerajjParallaxthe world with core crystal are supernatural-like=pokemon not magic/science but have material forms unlike spirits be cool if theirs a world have a mutagenic apocalypse cause real to become real from adventure time.
I hoping that Noah took out the logos and Pneuma core crystals from the sword and put then somewhere in origin to activate it. My only cope is that the sword does not have any purble or green glowing light when he throws it. I feel it would make more sense that he trew away the sword after the core crystals where remeove. Headcanon mini theory lol
Tbh I didn’t even think of that. That would actually be really cool if that happened. My only doubt about that is it didn’t seem like he knew they were in there. But it’s definitely possible someone told him offscreen so they could reveal it to us in Future Redeemed instead. Great theory!
The Sword of Origin was never a type of sword that can just be lost. Remember what Riku said. Its form and appearance is up to the user, and they can draw the sword anywhere and anywhen even when nowhere near it. If Noah ever wanted Lucky Seven back, he will simply will it back. Its also made of Origin metal, which can survive the complete annihilation of entire universes, so it will be fine.
@@PenguinSage I agree, whether he threw it in there or not, it’ll survive. I see it as more of a representation of him letting go of his violent past and giving that up.
Interesting. I do still think it’s possible they drop “chronicles” though. That could honestly be an argument for or against it since maybe they want to standardize the name across all regions. But I guess they’ll do what they think the market will respond to best in each region. It also could completely invalidate that theory as well though!
It's every FIVE years, man to Wait that long.... It'll probably be on the new Nintendo console. But yeah, I hope it was kos-mos, I'm still hurting not to see Noah and the crew meet back up...
There were no indication of limited resources in Klaus's world. Why would there be limited resources now and how would the Conduit have connection to that sort of problem?
Good questions! There are many things that aren’t explained or explored at all in certain games that are explained in their sequels either for the element of surprise or quiet retcons in the case of Xenoblade 1 and 2 (like Alvis really being Ontos all along) so there doesn’t need to be any indication of a lack of resources in Alrest in Xenoblade 2 or 3 for it to be the case. The reason I say the conduit could potentially have a connection to a lack of resources is because both worlds only existed because of the conduit in the first place. Who’s to say the conduit disappearing in 2 had nothing to do with the two worlds “yearning for each other.” Maybe the conduit was keeping them apart. Crazier things have happened in the xenoblade series so I don’t really count anything out at this point. At the end of the day this is all just speculation and theorizing and it’s fun to just go crazy sometimes!
I think this story idea is cool but I think the next game will likely center around the establishment and subsequent defeat of a new fog king as the new fog beings (basically a xenoblade version of gnosis) become an increasing threat to the newly established merged world I admit I mostly think something like this will be the case because of the ending to future redeemed’s alignment to the ending of xenosaga episode 3 and it gives a strong reason for introducing kos-mos and the hilbert effect which also shulk basically reinvented in future connected. This could also bring back shulk and Rex near the end of the game (and A too) as the power of the trinity processor might need to be used to face against the new fog king. Though I could imagine kos-mos replacing A as the ontos element of the trinity processor
These are good ideas! I’ll be honest, I’d be happy with anything related to the Trinity Processor lol. Combining elements of Xenosaga and Blade would also motivate me to play those games quicker.
Whats a Kos-Mos? o.O Never heared about this in Xenoblade 1-3. Or is that part of the other Xenoblade? I never played this. Since this game share only same name.
Here's the simple way to put it that has a high probability of truth: xenoblade 4 will have somw kind of connection to Xenosaga. The Radio and post credit scene said it all
i think it would be interesting if you discover the conduit isnt connected to a source of infinite energy (like xenosaga), but is giving one universe access to energy at the expense of another universe. and that when the xbc1 universe was made, it caused some form of entropy in another and that a being was able to follow the trail of the conduit and ends up in newly reformed earth and maybe tries to summon some sort of inverted conduit to destroy the universe. fragmented ideas but could be interesting launching point.
SPOILERS FOR ALL XENO GAMES INCLUDING X: Cool idea, but I think it's time to let these characters rest and move on. Here's a possible theory. Everyone is saying that the blue light at the end of the credits is KOS-MOS, and it makes sense, because it lines up perfectly with the ending of Xenosaga 3. It remains to be seen if it is the same KOS-MOS from Xenosaga 3 or a Xenoblade lore-ftiendly reboot, but it's more than likely at least a KOS-MOS stand-in. After Xenogears came out, there was an art book called Perfect Works that was essentially a timeline of the world from its inception to its destruction. Xenosaga introducd the idea of Eternal Recurrence, which that party rejected. In the context of the 3 arc Perfect Works story, Xenosaga is Arc 1, Xenogears (or a possible retelling) is arc 2, and the end of the universe is arc 3. Xenoblade 2 also confirmed there are many universes that exist simulataneously, but are unaware of each other. Xenosaga would refer to these universes as lower domains. My thought is that we are being rused. XCX is the only game to have aliens, yet the Samaarians, who apparently created many of the slave races in the game, look a lot like humans. Elma's design is an almost exact copy of KOS-MOS's design, but also takes influence from Xenogears's Persona (the woman on the beach in the opening cutscene and also the first incarnation of Miang and Elly when they were still the same person). I believe thst if Xenosaga were to have continued, that KOS-MOS would have served the role of the mother to the new humanity, a role that it seems Elma is serving in X. The Ghosts, the other alien race in X, are also an enigma. Their ship looks suspiciously like Origin, which in a lot of ways is a parallel to Merkavah from Xenogears, being a ship that's a vehicle for God. Elma's nane means "god's protection", and if you break her name apart, El + Ma, you get "The Mother". Additionally, Elma's mech, the Ares, is almost the exact same as the Oroborus mechs from 3. In fact, the name Ares was actually found in data files in Future Redeemed. My thought is that Elma is a new. Origin-made aegis, like Logos/Pneuma/Ontos were to the Trinity Processor. This also explains why Elma has so many of the powers she does and what the Ghosts are (not sentient, but defence weapons of Origin, just like how Deus/Merkavah had them). Its possible that Elma is KOS-MOS in a new body, but either way it seems like they're parallels of each other. Anyways, yeah, we'll probably get something related to the radio scene.
Xp I think it continues way further in future. New mainchar is a decendent of Glimmer & Nicole! o; Maybe their kid(s) maybe decendent many generations later!
wait i just realised something, i don't know if you know about this but did you know that in the beginning of xenosaga they find the zohar under the ocean?. so this begs the question that since origin went under water at the end of xenoblade 3 does this mean that eventually as years go by as origin lied dormant it evolved and became the zohar and years later it was found eventually in xenosaga episode 1? meaning hat xenosaga is officially canon to xenoblade?
That’s a really interesting theory I haven’t heard yet! I can’t speak on whether that would be possible or not since I haven’t finished Xenosaga yet and I’ve only heard of Xenosaga coming first canonically, but I think they’ll find a way to connect the stories of Xenosaga and Xenoblade one way or another. It would be really cool if your theory is correct though!
Maybe im wrong but im pretty sure that at the end of xenoblade 3 they restored both worlds and the people who live there, wouldn't that implement that pyra and mythra would be in there normal blade form again? And Malos would probably still be dead
That could definitely be the case, but we still aren’t 100% sure what happened to them. Plus, that would mean twice the amount of people (from both Bionis and Alrest) would live in one world which would get into overpopulation issues. But it’s definitely still a possibility and fun to speculate about.
That was the full version as of right now lol. I kinda just came up with more of an outline for it and didn’t really care about fleshing out any of the finer details at least for the purposes of this video.
Sorry for complaining but its stated clearly that rex and shulk will be released after aionios is divided and correctly fused again (aka ending of xc3) so they will likely be around as normal, and i dont see monolithsoft teasing a comet falling into the fused world just to make the next game (chronologically) not involve any of the past characters, obviously they are not going to play as active of a role in the story but i doubt they would just do nothing if anything bad happens
I’m not saying your wrong, (I’m genuinely curious) what phrasing at the end of XC3 alludes to Rex and Shulk being released? It’s been awhile lol. Also, (and please don’t take this to be rude) I don’t remember ever saying older characters wouldn’t appear in new games. I’m going off what Monolithsoft has done past Xenoblade games. None of them have focused on characters from past games (aside from the DLC stories). They seem to be interested in sticking with the overarching story of XC but telling it trough the smaller stories of new characters. Not saying they will keep doing this since we don’t know for sure if the next game will even be called Xenoblade or be part of that story, but I’m just going off of patterns.
@Warrior Of Auir If I’m honest, that’s what I was hoping for in Xenoblade 3. Or I was at least hoping that would be part of the story. I would love it if they did different stand alone titles to fill in those kinds of gaps!
@@celticjordan1 I will say I like the gameplay in 3 better but yeah my favorite in terms of characters and for the most part, story will probably always be 2. Though, Future Redeemed gives it a run for its money.
There are some cool ideas here and there and yes I also feel like the Conduit/Zohar will play a major role moving forward, but I also feel like some details were overlooked (the blue light coming to earth) and other ideas that I’m not a huge fan of. If anything, whatever Xenoblade 4 will be is most likely a new beginning for the series while also containing elements to connect with the previous games without making newcomers lost.
I think you’re right about Xenoblade 4 being a new beginning to the series. I don’t think it will even be called Xenoblade 4 tbh. I feel like they’ll drop the numbering system. I didn’t include the blue light in my theories because I have yet to play the Xenosaga games and I’ve seen the majority of people say it’s most likely connected to saga or even X which I also haven’t played yet.
I'm sorry and I don't mean to be rude, but all the premises here are either wrong or doesn't even exist anymore, are invalid. Aionios is no more, what we are left with is a combination of the two worlds (previously being reset) which is different from the one we knew. Thus, why it would need saving we don't know, but Noah's sword wouldn't even exist and if it did, it wouldn't even be in the ocean as the worlds went back. That entire point makes no sense with what we know, what we are told and what the games have to say. The point of throwing away the sword is symbolic, it isnt neccessary anymore and also probably would not be simply because their worlds are going to "dissapear" along with the sword and the Blade system created for Aionios (only Lucky7 would remain if we want to reach extremely). Shulk and Rex won't get magical powers from Logos and Pneuma because there isn't any indication or motive whatsoever. It stands against their characters, their arcs, their development (especially in FR) and they way in which, futunately, Takahashi writes their stories. As a side note, when A says "everything concerning what we did and Origin will become..." she isnt referring to after the worlds are separated or come back together, they're talking about Aionios itself. People in Aionios will and did forget about what happened there, but nonetheless, the right people in the end carried on their legacy and did what needed to be done a thousand years later. As simple as that. As A says shortly after, "be it now or in a thousand years". In the booklet included in Xenoblade Trinity Box OST Takahashi goes to say that if it were a Xenoboade 4, it would be much different from what we have now. He prefers changing (ofensive) as to keeping (defense). This is also paralleled by the story in XC3. So, even though it is obvious that I know as much as you, it is almost clear that Xenoblade 4 wouldn't have to do that much with the current characters and storylines. Guessing where the series might go is difficult. I'd say even impossible as I've seen time and time again with prediction videos for each game and DLCs proven wrong. But one thing is clear, it won't be anything like what you are speculating here. There isn't even a straw to grasp on. It is setting oneself up for dissapointment to expect something like this.
I think logos which is malos if he ever re-emerges would try to activate the conduit in this case as he would still want the worlds destruction. Furthermore I find that it is unlikely they make a story about scarcity considering xenoblade 2 is practically the same thing due to Titans dying. I think the two world convincing is possible but I think there will be a time skip into after xc3 character all are old. As I think Xc3 class primarily Xc2 andXc1 children will have the spotlight in the dlc considering we have seen nia and mythra children.
I don’t know about that. Remember, Amalthus was the one who’s desires imprinted upon and thus drove Malos to take those evil actions. Malos at his core is just “an information processing unit” as Klaus said at the end of XC2. He isn’t intrinsically evil and since Amalthus is dead and he’s either been sent back to his core to “reset” or has been “killed,” I imagine when/if he returns, he’d be just as well intended as Pneuma or even Ontos when in the form of either Alvis or A. As for the story, that’s a good point. This story is pretty similar to the titans dying out so perhaps they would go in a different direction. Either way I’m excited to see which way they go with it!
he let go of the amalthus brainrot after rex beat him. you saw him have a regret of some sort, if he comes back he will have the same goals most likely.
@@Diamoondust I don’t think he let go entirely. Blades are still intrinsically connected to their drivers until one of them is killed thus sending a blade back to their core. Malos is a special case and of course has the will/power to keep living beyond his driver’s death, but my point is that only when we see him get killed or “sent back to his core” does he seem to have a change of heart. Why would he care to talk to Pneuma when she’s about to sacrifice herself at the end unless he has had a change of heart and truly cares for her at that point? I think him being killed or sent back to his core is what really “resets” his thought process which is completely unaffected by Amalthus.
@@Diamoondust Oh, sorry I thought you were talking about when Rex beat Amalthus which threw off my entire understanding of your comment. I think I understand now
Idk man, I think they might want the next game to be set in an entirely unconnected universe
And I don’t like the idea that the world has yet another threat. They should be (relatively) at peace now.
@@linkalot7415 You may have a point there in terms of them going a completely different direction. I’ll admit, my theory is a reaching in terms of saying it’s moving away from the Klaus Saga and it’s best case scenario for those who want to see the story continue. However, if they don’t go this route, I think it would be most beneficial for them to explore a completely unrelated plot line that has nothing to do with anything in the previous games other than it takes place in that same universe. Kind of a middle ground to what we’re both saying but the reality is anything’s possible!
Also, I agree with you on your second point. I also don’t like the idea of there being another threat either and I even considered that route but the reality is, there’s no story or plot without a threat, challenge, or obstacle to overcome and thus no enemies to fight and no game. That’s why a lot of times, there’s a huge gap of time in between movies or story driven games. Because it makes sense for the world to be at peace for the amount of years they skipped which means there was no substantial story to be told within that timeframe.
@@DerajjParallax fair enough man. i still really enjoyed this video im not bashing it or anything 😄you have nice ideas
@@linkalot7415 I didn’t take it as you bashing it all! Sorry if I came across rude, that wasn’t my intent! I just like talking about it and I get a little carried away. You brought up good points and I really do appreciate the input! The reality is I’m just a fan speculating about stuff so I could be way off lol
Also I’m glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks for watching!
@@linkalot7415 when you are going to upload videos again
I think a more interesting idea would be following up on that falling star at the end of future redeemed. Where the plot this time will be that the descendants of the humans who were already colonizing the stars when Klaus' experiment happened, come back to the remerged Earth and decide to overtake it from the people of Bionis and Alrest. Because the old humans are more advanced technologically than the people of new Aionios there's a big class divide. As the old humans view themselves as superior to the people of Aionios.
Basically, this idea would be following up on what was said on the radio about the Savorite Human Rights bill. And how that bill was likely going to be turned down. So a similar idea of fighting for human rights could be the central theme of the next game. It could also tie into Xenosaga as the star we see fall is actually KOS-MOS. And she's found by our new protagonist who helps get her repaired to help her complete her mission. Following up on the ending of Xenosaga 3. But that would ultimately depend on whether or not a Xenosaga Trilogy remaster retcons a bunch of stuff to fit perfectly with Xenoblade.
This sounds interesting as well. I definitely think it’s possible we could see this storyline. I’ll be honest, I don’t know as much about the pre-Klaus experiment side of the story or Xenosaga but I plan on playing the trilogy eventually. Once I do I bet I’d be even more pumped to see something like this! As long as we stay in this universe, I’ll be happy
I wouldnt be suprised if Monolith redid those games and make it line up more with Xenoblade, heck might even add a explanation why Kosmos is also in XC2
Xonblade saga :Not lost Jerusalem: the resurrection of christ.
It’s still hard for me to get behind Shulk acting as a god moving forward in the Xenoblade universe. Some of his most pivotal character development in the first game was how he denied the status of a god so that everyone could choose for themselves how they wanted to live. Sure, Shulk could rule in a less involved manner, but I just can’t see him accepting the role of a god.
A transcendent defender or protector? Sure! But just not a god.
That’s definitely a valid point! I will admit, I am using the term “god” a little too loosely. Maybe because gods aren’t all powerful as we see with zanza in the first game. I’m with you that it would be more likely that he’s somewhere in between god and man. Maybe even more like a demigod. Even though I lean in that direction with you and I probably just need to start referring to him as just a spirit or even demigod (until we get confirmation otherwise), let’s play devil’s advocate for a second. It definitely does seem out of character for him to accept the role of a god. However, the way I look at that scene where he turns the offer down, at that short point in time he is a god for seizing his destiny and killing one which is why Alvis called him “creator” and Shulk even said “I’m supposed to be the god.” So by making the choice to have a world without gods, he did kinda chose to be one whether he intended to or not. It was inescapable. Also, before he decided on having “a world with no gods” his prior statement makes me think it’s not that he didn’t want gods in the world. He simply wanted for people to choose their own destiny. Of course the logical conclusion is that we shouldn’t have any gods, but it’s also possibly to have a god simply watch over and protect the citizens of the world without being this tyrannical ruler. The good side of Klaus seemed to do a good job at that. He simply let the people of the world do as they pleased. Good or bad.
Now, the representation of Shulk’s friends that Alvis showed to Shulk to hurry up his decision all say “yeah you shouldn’t be a god,” but that was Alvis’ simply what Alvis believed they would say based on the data he received from their personalities so there’s a very very slim chance he could’ve miscalculated that since he is basically a computer but for arguments sake, I’ll count that against my argument since it would be really unlikely. Having said all this, I am not claiming to understand Shulk and his character better than anyone else and I could be way off. I simply think this is one way to interpret it. Thanks for the input!
@@DerajjParallaxI think at the end of future redeemed Shulk, Rex and A are basically meant to represent the Gnosticism demiurge
Here is the definition:
a being responsible for the creation of the universe.
(in Platonic philosophy) the Maker or Creator of the world.
(in Gnosticism and other theological systems) a heavenly being, subordinate to the Supreme Being, that is considered to be the controller of the material world and antagonistic to all that is purely spiritual.
Basically the last version is what I’m referring to where they are a supreme being(s) that is a creator / controller of the material world (or in their case guardians of the material / physical world) this to me fits well with how you explain them in this video where they are guardians of the conduit and also fits with the creator of xenoblade often referencing Gnosticism in his “Xeno” works or video games
It also happens to fit my theory (and now that I think about it yours too just replace what I’m saying about the fog king with the conduit) about a new fog king being the main villain of the next game because the fog king would be a spiritual or immaterial being that is in direct opposition to or trying to destroy the material world
Shulk became an avatar with A and rex to fill the roles of the trinity processor, and technically could argue that rex and shulk were avatars put in place to take the place of pneuma and logos in the redevelopment of the worlds. So avatar sounds more like a proper term for shulk and the other 2
@@DerajjParallaxthe world with core crystal are supernatural-like=pokemon not magic/science but have material forms unlike spirits be cool if theirs a world have a mutagenic apocalypse cause real to become real from adventure time.
I hoping that Noah took out the logos and Pneuma core crystals from the sword and put then somewhere in origin to activate it. My only cope is that the sword does not have any purble or green glowing light when he throws it. I feel it would make more sense that he trew away the sword after the core crystals where remeove. Headcanon mini theory lol
Tbh I didn’t even think of that. That would actually be really cool if that happened. My only doubt about that is it didn’t seem like he knew they were in there. But it’s definitely possible someone told him offscreen so they could reveal it to us in Future Redeemed instead. Great theory!
The Sword of Origin was never a type of sword that can just be lost. Remember what Riku said. Its form and appearance is up to the user, and they can draw the sword anywhere and anywhen even when nowhere near it. If Noah ever wanted Lucky Seven back, he will simply will it back. Its also made of Origin metal, which can survive the complete annihilation of entire universes, so it will be fine.
@@PenguinSage I agree, whether he threw it in there or not, it’ll survive. I see it as more of a representation of him letting go of his violent past and giving that up.
Bruh, this Theory is burnt, stop cooking 🔥
I did get a little carried away but that’s what makes it fun lol
0:46 i think he said that because in japan the game is only xenoblade, i don't know why it is xenoblade crhonicles in other countryes
Interesting. I do still think it’s possible they drop “chronicles” though. That could honestly be an argument for or against it since maybe they want to standardize the name across all regions. But I guess they’ll do what they think the market will respond to best in each region. It also could completely invalidate that theory as well though!
I think it was something made for the European release
It's every FIVE years, man to Wait that long.... It'll probably be on the new Nintendo console.
But yeah, I hope it was kos-mos, I'm still hurting not to see Noah and the crew meet back up...
For real! I wish they would’ve at least shown us like a 5 second clip of them all walking up to each other at least lol
There were no indication of limited resources in Klaus's world. Why would there be limited resources now and how would the Conduit have connection to that sort of problem?
Good questions! There are many things that aren’t explained or explored at all in certain games that are explained in their sequels either for the element of surprise or quiet retcons in the case of Xenoblade 1 and 2 (like Alvis really being Ontos all along) so there doesn’t need to be any indication of a lack of resources in Alrest in Xenoblade 2 or 3 for it to be the case. The reason I say the conduit could potentially have a connection to a lack of resources is because both worlds only existed because of the conduit in the first place. Who’s to say the conduit disappearing in 2 had nothing to do with the two worlds “yearning for each other.” Maybe the conduit was keeping them apart. Crazier things have happened in the xenoblade series so I don’t really count anything out at this point. At the end of the day this is all just speculation and theorizing and it’s fun to just go crazy sometimes!
Xenogears is such a different vibe from even Saga. And definitely Blade. I feel like the story and music are closer to the Nier games.
I think this story idea is cool but I think the next game will likely center around the establishment and subsequent defeat of a new fog king as the new fog beings (basically a xenoblade version of gnosis) become an increasing threat to the newly established merged world
I admit I mostly think something like this will be the case because of the ending to future redeemed’s alignment to the ending of xenosaga episode 3 and it gives a strong reason for introducing kos-mos and the hilbert effect which also shulk basically reinvented in future connected. This could also bring back shulk and Rex near the end of the game (and A too) as the power of the trinity processor might need to be used to face against the new fog king. Though I could imagine kos-mos replacing A as the ontos element of the trinity processor
These are good ideas! I’ll be honest, I’d be happy with anything related to the Trinity Processor lol. Combining elements of Xenosaga and Blade would also motivate me to play those games quicker.
Whats a Kos-Mos? o.O Never heared about this in Xenoblade 1-3. Or is that part of the other Xenoblade? I never played this. Since this game share only same name.
@@TruePersonaGirl Kos-Mos is a character from Xenosaga which is a series that was made before Xenoblade
Problem is the conduit left the world and now went to a different location
Right. And that’s why Rex, Shulk and A would have to leave Aionios and go to the dimension it’s in.
Here's the simple way to put it that has a high probability of truth: xenoblade 4 will have somw kind of connection to Xenosaga. The Radio and post credit scene said it all
I hope they won’t pull a Xenoblade 2 where the post credit scene had directly almost nothing to do with Xenoblade 3
@@DerajjParallax i don't understand this comparison
i think it would be interesting if you discover the conduit isnt connected to a source of infinite energy (like xenosaga), but is giving one universe access to energy at the expense of another universe. and that when the xbc1 universe was made, it caused some form of entropy in another and that a being was able to follow the trail of the conduit and ends up in newly reformed earth and maybe tries to summon some sort of inverted conduit to destroy the universe. fragmented ideas but could be interesting launching point.
That’s an interesting concept! I wouldn’t put it past Monolithsoft to come up with a story like that
I would be up for this story. I fell game with both rex and shulk.
.is there anyway you could squeeze nia in as well ?
Why not a continuation of xenoblade x storyline bc ended on a cliffhanger but with future redeemed maybe x and main xenoblade blade might merge
I’d be cool with that too!
I want my pyra and mythra back 😭
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Cool idea, but I think it's time to let these characters rest and move on.
Here's a possible theory. Everyone is saying that the blue light at the end of the credits is KOS-MOS, and it makes sense, because it lines up perfectly with the ending of Xenosaga 3. It remains to be seen if it is the same KOS-MOS from Xenosaga 3 or a Xenoblade lore-ftiendly reboot, but it's more than likely at least a KOS-MOS stand-in.
After Xenogears came out, there was an art book called Perfect Works that was essentially a timeline of the world from its inception to its destruction. Xenosaga introducd the idea of Eternal Recurrence, which that party rejected. In the context of the 3 arc Perfect Works story, Xenosaga is Arc 1, Xenogears (or a possible retelling) is arc 2, and the end of the universe is arc 3.
Xenoblade 2 also confirmed there are many universes that exist simulataneously, but are unaware of each other. Xenosaga would refer to these universes as lower domains.
My thought is that we are being rused. XCX is the only game to have aliens, yet the Samaarians, who apparently created many of the slave races in the game, look a lot like humans.
Elma's design is an almost exact copy of KOS-MOS's design, but also takes influence from Xenogears's Persona (the woman on the beach in the opening cutscene and also the first incarnation of Miang and Elly when they were still the same person).
I believe thst if Xenosaga were to have continued, that KOS-MOS would have served the role of the mother to the new humanity, a role that it seems Elma is serving in X.
The Ghosts, the other alien race in X, are also an enigma. Their ship looks suspiciously like Origin, which in a lot of ways is a parallel to Merkavah from Xenogears, being a ship that's a vehicle for God. Elma's nane means "god's protection", and if you break her name apart, El + Ma, you get "The Mother".
Additionally, Elma's mech, the Ares, is almost the exact same as the Oroborus mechs from 3. In fact, the name Ares was actually found in data files in Future Redeemed.
My thought is that Elma is a new. Origin-made aegis, like Logos/Pneuma/Ontos were to the Trinity Processor. This also explains why Elma has so many of the powers she does and what the Ghosts are (not sentient, but defence weapons of Origin, just like how Deus/Merkavah had them). Its possible that Elma is KOS-MOS in a new body, but either way it seems like they're parallels of each other.
Anyways, yeah, we'll probably get something related to the radio scene.
Xp I think it continues way further in future. New mainchar is a decendent of Glimmer & Nicole! o; Maybe their kid(s) maybe decendent many generations later!
Out of curiosity, but do you think there are possibilities that origin can travel through time?
It probably can. We know it can essentially manipulate time at least within the world of Aionios so it wouldn’t surprise me
I honnestly think that none of that will happen haha but always fun to speak about what we think the future of the series could be
I highly suggest you go play Xenosaga in its entirety. While not a perfect series by any means, it's definitely worth your time 😊
Xenogears is definitely worth playing as well, especially for learning the Perfect Works timeline
wait i just realised something, i don't know if you know about this but did you know that in the beginning of xenosaga they find the zohar under the ocean?. so this begs the question that since origin went under water at the end of xenoblade 3 does this mean that eventually as years go by as origin lied dormant it evolved and became the zohar and years later it was found eventually in xenosaga episode 1? meaning hat xenosaga is officially canon to xenoblade?
That’s a really interesting theory I haven’t heard yet! I can’t speak on whether that would be possible or not since I haven’t finished Xenosaga yet and I’ve only heard of Xenosaga coming first canonically, but I think they’ll find a way to connect the stories of Xenosaga and Xenoblade one way or another. It would be really cool if your theory is correct though!
Maybe im wrong but im pretty sure that at the end of xenoblade 3 they restored both worlds and the people who live there, wouldn't that implement that pyra and mythra would be in there normal blade form again? And Malos would probably still be dead
That could definitely be the case, but we still aren’t 100% sure what happened to them. Plus, that would mean twice the amount of people (from both Bionis and Alrest) would live in one world which would get into overpopulation issues. But it’s definitely still a possibility and fun to speculate about.
thats a nice fanfic you read where can i find the full version?
That was the full version as of right now lol. I kinda just came up with more of an outline for it and didn’t really care about fleshing out any of the finer details at least for the purposes of this video.
Sorry for complaining but its stated clearly that rex and shulk will be released after aionios is divided and correctly fused again (aka ending of xc3) so they will likely be around as normal, and i dont see monolithsoft teasing a comet falling into the fused world just to make the next game (chronologically) not involve any of the past characters, obviously they are not going to play as active of a role in the story but i doubt they would just do nothing if anything bad happens
I’m not saying your wrong, (I’m genuinely curious) what phrasing at the end of XC3 alludes to Rex and Shulk being released? It’s been awhile lol.
Also, (and please don’t take this to be rude) I don’t remember ever saying older characters wouldn’t appear in new games. I’m going off what Monolithsoft has done past Xenoblade games. None of them have focused on characters from past games (aside from the DLC stories). They seem to be interested in sticking with the overarching story of XC but telling it trough the smaller stories of new characters. Not saying they will keep doing this since we don’t know for sure if the next game will even be called Xenoblade or be part of that story, but I’m just going off of patterns.
They should do the era of xenoblade 2 after the defeat of malos…
@Warrior Of Auir If I’m honest, that’s what I was hoping for in Xenoblade 3. Or I was at least hoping that would be part of the story. I would love it if they did different stand alone titles to fill in those kinds of gaps!
@@DerajjParallax I do like the xenoblade 2 designs and our favorite characters in there more than in 3…
@@celticjordan1 I will say I like the gameplay in 3 better but yeah my favorite in terms of characters and for the most part, story will probably always be 2. Though, Future Redeemed gives it a run for its money.
There are some cool ideas here and there and yes I also feel like the Conduit/Zohar will play a major role moving forward, but I also feel like some details were overlooked (the blue light coming to earth) and other ideas that I’m not a huge fan of.
If anything, whatever Xenoblade 4 will be is most likely a new beginning for the series while also containing elements to connect with the previous games without making newcomers lost.
I think you’re right about Xenoblade 4 being a new beginning to the series. I don’t think it will even be called Xenoblade 4 tbh. I feel like they’ll drop the numbering system.
I didn’t include the blue light in my theories because I have yet to play the Xenosaga games and I’ve seen the majority of people say it’s most likely connected to saga or even X which I also haven’t played yet.
I'm sorry and I don't mean to be rude, but all the premises here are either wrong or doesn't even exist anymore, are invalid. Aionios is no more, what we are left with is a combination of the two worlds (previously being reset) which is different from the one we knew. Thus, why it would need saving we don't know, but Noah's sword wouldn't even exist and if it did, it wouldn't even be in the ocean as the worlds went back. That entire point makes no sense with what we know, what we are told and what the games have to say. The point of throwing away the sword is symbolic, it isnt neccessary anymore and also probably would not be simply because their worlds are going to "dissapear" along with the sword and the Blade system created for Aionios (only Lucky7 would remain if we want to reach extremely). Shulk and Rex won't get magical powers from Logos and Pneuma because there isn't any indication or motive whatsoever. It stands against their characters, their arcs, their development (especially in FR) and they way in which, futunately, Takahashi writes their stories.
As a side note, when A says "everything concerning what we did and Origin will become..." she isnt referring to after the worlds are separated or come back together, they're talking about Aionios itself. People in Aionios will and did forget about what happened there, but nonetheless, the right people in the end carried on their legacy and did what needed to be done a thousand years later. As simple as that. As A says shortly after, "be it now or in a thousand years".
In the booklet included in Xenoblade Trinity Box OST Takahashi goes to say that if it were a Xenoboade 4, it would be much different from what we have now. He prefers changing (ofensive) as to keeping (defense). This is also paralleled by the story in XC3. So, even though it is obvious that I know as much as you, it is almost clear that Xenoblade 4 wouldn't have to do that much with the current characters and storylines.
Guessing where the series might go is difficult. I'd say even impossible as I've seen time and time again with prediction videos for each game and DLCs proven wrong. But one thing is clear, it won't be anything like what you are speculating here. There isn't even a straw to grasp on. It is setting oneself up for dissapointment to expect something like this.
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I think logos which is malos if he ever re-emerges would try to activate the conduit in this case as he would still want the worlds destruction. Furthermore I find that it is unlikely they make a story about scarcity considering xenoblade 2 is practically the same thing due to Titans dying. I think the two world convincing is possible but I think there will be a time skip into after xc3 character all are old. As I think Xc3 class primarily Xc2 andXc1 children will have the spotlight in the dlc considering we have seen nia and mythra children.
I don’t know about that. Remember, Amalthus was the one who’s desires imprinted upon and thus drove Malos to take those evil actions. Malos at his core is just “an information processing unit” as Klaus said at the end of XC2. He isn’t intrinsically evil and since Amalthus is dead and he’s either been sent back to his core to “reset” or has been “killed,” I imagine when/if he returns, he’d be just as well intended as Pneuma or even Ontos when in the form of either Alvis or A.
As for the story, that’s a good point. This story is pretty similar to the titans dying out so perhaps they would go in a different direction. Either way I’m excited to see which way they go with it!
he let go of the amalthus brainrot after rex beat him. you saw him have a regret of some sort, if he comes back he will have the same goals most likely.
@@Diamoondust I don’t think he let go entirely. Blades are still intrinsically connected to their drivers until one of them is killed thus sending a blade back to their core. Malos is a special case and of course has the will/power to keep living beyond his driver’s death, but my point is that only when we see him get killed or “sent back to his core” does he seem to have a change of heart. Why would he care to talk to Pneuma when she’s about to sacrifice herself at the end unless he has had a change of heart and truly cares for her at that point? I think him being killed or sent back to his core is what really “resets” his thought process which is completely unaffected by Amalthus.
@@DerajjParallax as i said, he had change of heart AND his core was shattered. he might have even lost his memories if they had to repair the crystal
@@Diamoondust Oh, sorry I thought you were talking about when Rex beat Amalthus which threw off my entire understanding of your comment. I think I understand now
I just hope we’ll get a positive closure to Noah and Mio, like we got for Rex in this game.
Yeah, I would love to see them explore when they’re older and have kids and I don’t think that’s out of the question at all
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Origin didn't remerge the two worlds, it recreated them after the destruction and allowed them to pass through like it never happened
Touché
From new information they are making something different a crossroads type shitter, it's probably going to be ignored.