Hi, ich habe deinen Channel gerade entdeckt und gleich mal ein paar Videos nacheinander geschaut. Super, einen UA-camr aus Deutschland zu finden, der sich mit Xeno-Games beschäftigt. Hab' auf jeden Fall ein Abo dagelassen und bin gespannt auf deinen weiteren, interessanten Content. Abseits davon, ich könnte mir vorstellen, dass du leichter mehr Reichweite gewinnen könntest, wenn du hier und da etwas mehr an deiner englischen Aussprache und den Formulierungen feilst. Ich hatte den starken deutschen Akzent ziemlich schnell rausgehört und das hat mich leider immer mal aus dem Inhalt rausgerissen. Einige Fehler im Satzbau bzw. bei verwendeten Begrifflichkeiten waren auch festzustellen, ich konnte mir aufgrund meines deutschsprachigen Hintergrundes aber gut zusammenreimen, wo das herkommt. 🙂 Das ist absolut nicht negativ gemeint, also bitte nicht persönlich nehmen! Ich finde lediglich, dass es deine Videos optimieren würde, wenn du deine Scripts möglichst nochmal von jemandem gegenlesen lässt, der Englisch etwas flüssiger beherrscht. Ich bin zwar kein Englisch-Muttersprachler, habe aber durch meine Arbeit und Hobbys seit vielen Jahren täglich mit Englisch zu tun. Falls du Bock hast, kann ich dir gerne Tipps geben, wie konkrete Sätze besser formuliert und ausgesprochen werden können. Ein allgemeiner Tipp: Hör dir ruhig mal dein Script über TTS (Text-to-Speech) an und sprich es nach, das kann massiv helfen, die eigene Aussprache zu verbessern. Ansonsten, tolle Videos, sehr informativ, gut geschnitten, man merkt, dass du viel Arbeit da reinsteckst. 👍
Thanks a lot for this. I'm usually pretty decent at following rpg stories, and while I loved all three xenoblade games, the timelines and finer details of some things escaped me. It really helps having it laid out clearly and concisely like this.
If Z was created from Origin giving the fear of the people in both worlds a form, then wouldn't it be thematically satisfying for Origin to read the will of the people in both worlds to see each other again and manifest that by combining both worlds?
Yeah, I've always felt the party running to each other as the worlds part is meant to be symbolic of what the souls from both worlds willing to confronting future without fear but still wanting to be with each other.
Thanks so much for this video. I love revisiting the Xenoblade series through videos like this that remind me why inlove this series so much. It's so brilliantly put together and sometimes in 100+ hours of gameplay, it is easy to miss out or just forget important details. Can't wait for the next MonolithSoft release!
I was under the impression both galea and klaus were split in some sense, the guldo thing in morytha that drops an ID card i think had an imagine of Galea on it. pretty weird and not expanded on to my memory
Thank you! Ive never seen your content before but im so grateful that this explanation was cohesive, logical, qnd extremely clear. Yeah somethings are a bit nore interpretative. But you did an amazing job and i think this is the best time line explanation video ive seen yet!!!!! Definitely a sub from me!!!! I cant wait for more content!!!!!
12:22 it is implied by Melia that every "new life" it's recorder in origin. Taion: 'So then, both us and the world... Everything thay exists, it's all false?" Melia: "Everything that exists is reality. Present lives, and future ones... Moebius aside, the wills of countless people persist..." I think the lives of the people of the city will exist in the future. Edit: My first sentence was written oddly and I didn't like it haha
Yea I think that's the games excuse but if you think about it it's a culmination of 1000 years of different people in different circumstances that lead to their births. But maybe fate will lead to the same outcome some way.
@@SuperSavajini mean yeah, but you kinda came to an unfounded conclusion when you assumed all the city folk were erased at the end of 3. That’d crap all over the themes of 3.
@@2yoyoyo1Unplugged That's not an unfounded conclusion, that's literally how Origin works. Even Ghondor expresses the chance of being reborn in this new world is sufficient enough for them at the ending. Now don't get me wrong I know a lot of people believe that the chance of them being reborn is very high and imo it is definitely possible but just thinking about it logically for me it just feels very unlikely because little things can change past events completely like a butterfly effect. The messages of the game is also to move on even tho not knowing the future is scary which is reflected in this decision as well.
I just finished the last DLC of the series and when I saw that last bit towards the ending, I knew this is why we haven't gotten any word on xenoblade chronicles X. I jumped for joy because I have so many questions I need answered and I believe takahashi now was able to take his time rebuilding X without the rush of investors. I believe most of X story will change to accommodate the two universe events.
Malos definitively survived and was recreated. We hear him talk to Pneuma when she sacrifices in order to control Aion and modify the world's tree fall. You can see in the scene that Artifice Aion has 3 slots, 2 of them are ON (Logos and Pneuma are working), maybe Pneuma absorbed him somehow. Anyway in the second game it is stated that each core crystal has enough information of the other two to recreate the core with help of a second crystal
14:51 I have a Theory, maybe the energy who transforms all the founders into a giant Ouroboros (with the sword of the end and the fists of the end), releases the hopes and dreams to a New data from N, just like Alvis was unshackled by Ghondor with the Ouroboros power, generating a New Noah and Mio from the N memories in Origin brougth a New Noah to the rebirth cycle
There are a couple things you say that I'm not 100% sure I agree with. For instance that Citizens are definitely dead and will not be recreated after the end of XC3--In Chapter 7 Melia seems to be saying that "future lives" (meaning the people of the City) are recorded in Origin as well. Which means it would be possible in theory to recreate them (although the specifics for how that would happen are not discussed at all). Also it's not completely clear whether Noah was born back into the cycle within the timeframe of Future Redeemed. It is also possible that the Noah and Mio we see in the game are the first time they have been reborn after becoming Moebius. This isn't really clear in the game so I don't think we can say definitively that it happened the way you suggest. However these are fairly minor points and I was really impressed by how much you managed to cover, so succinctly and clearly. I even was thinking "Is he gonna mention Burrburr???" and then you did! Nice. I was thinking a video like this needed to exist, so I was actually starting to script it out myself. But now I feel like I don't need to because you've pretty much covered all there is to say.
We definitely don't know how long it took Noah to respawn after becoming Moebius but I also don't think I went into specifics there. I just said it happened eventually. Also I see a lot of people trying to say that the city people will also be recreated even tho Ghondor at the end pretty much confirms that they just hope to be reborn and we even see that Origin kicked back up as planned and reset everything so idk. I feel like the points for City folks being recreated are more of a reach than saying that they eventually will be born again.
I have a little theory as to why Noah and Mio were so special: In future redeemed, Z was questioning how the sword of the end made it into N's hands, then concludes that.. at least it's implied in my opinion that N is a god chosen by Origin, kinda like how Shulk was a god. Mio doesn't have a sword of the end but she is the daughter of the current strongest blade in Agnus (since Mythra lost her power from the conduit, including control over artifices)
So, assuming the Noah that became N was indeed Ghondor's father (as is implied), and this happened immediately after his death (or else he would have likely reincarnated already), There's a 70 year gap between Noah agreeing to become Moebius and him destroying the City to bring back Mio as M. What did he do during those 70 years? What did he get out of becoming Moebius if it would take 70 years before he would get to see Mio again?
@@SuperSavajin The more I think about this games lore, the more it feels like there are deliberate holes that could contain enough story for an entire game. The beginning of Aionios has so many answers regarding the Aegis cores, the swords of the end, and why Noah and Mio are uniquely special. As for N, large parts of his story doesn't quite add up. Notice how he has two separate cutscenes about becoming Moebius: the one where he becomes N and the one where he agrees to destroy the City. In both, he's wearing his City outfit, yet there's no way to combine the cutscenes into a single event that makes sense. There aren't any contradictions there, but it certainly feels like there's a lot of his story we still don't know.
I thought about it for a long time, I came to the conclusion that there were more reincarnations of Noah in that period of time (but they didn't do anything relevant) and then, we got to the scene where he offers to be a Moebius and Noah accepts... And if we talk about the scene where he asks him to destroy the city, I had the theory for a long time that they show us Noah in his city suit... to reflect the doubt of whether to do that horrible act just on his whim, but this "doubt" disappeared
@@marioalemus5177 Yeah, the Noah that is N, despite what Ghondor says, isn't explicitly "Papa Noah", especially considering N was kind of dismissive of Noah asking about him having a child. Alternatively, I imagine that when a Kevesi or Agnian is brought back to the war from their cradle isn't exactly a set time frame. Sure, Nimue and the bully group from Colony 9 seemed to be brought back a couple years after their deaths, but then you have Cammuravi, Mwamba, and Hackt who were brought back about two months after their deaths (although considering Colony Omega being what it is, that could be a special case). So, the Noah and Mio we meet could be WELL after N and M's time, maybe 70 years. There's also the factor that N and M explicitly state "You are the hopes we cast aside" to Noah and Mio at the very end of base 3, so maybe all of N AND Ms hopes went bye-bye at the same time well after they were reincarnated as Moebius lol But then you get little tidbits like how Mio is always older than Noah... Eh whatevs. 3's lore to me is less focused on being explicit so this may be something we never have a full blown answer to
@@themojogamer75 In the latter you are quite right, the game is more... open to interpretation than the other 2 that were more literal. possibly because of all the references to the different Takahashi sagas in the characters of the game
I don't think Origin was the force that brought the two worlds back together, that wasn't it's job. It was intended to put them back as they were before they collided, separate. In the ending for Future Redeemed the worlds *interlink*. It's the power of Ouroborous that brings them together in a fusion not a collision.
But that goes against what we see happen with the 2 worlds before that. The splitting apart still happened when Noah and Mio were grown up and in Aionios and only after that Origin kicked back up. Also even interlinking itself has a time limit exactly because the overlap causes annihilation. So even if Origin isn't exactly the reason the two worlds interlinked it still had to reboot the states because they would cancel each other out.
@@SuperSavajin A friend of mine came up with the interpretation that Origin was made for nothing and the worlds were gonna reconnect just fine without it. I don't entirely agree with this interpretation, BUT is being created as a result of a fearful reaction to an uncertainty goes hand in hand with what Z is: a being made of humanity's fear of the uncertain future. Again, I don't entirely agree with that interpretation, but it's interesting to think about
@@SuperSavajin Origin was supposed to recreate the two worlds exactly as they existed before the collision, able to coexist or at least able to proceed for a time before it was required to operate again if they swung back into each other. But it didn't. It included things from Aionios along the way. We know that from the original ending where Noah hears Mio's off-seer melody. Something that had only ever existed on Aionios (because off-seers make their own variations). Origin has no function related to reuniting the worlds, Ouroborous does. Also, thematically if the future of the series is to dovetail with Xenosaga in some form, the union of soul and memory in an Interlink is pretty much the exact polar opposite of the causes of Gnosification (fear and rejection of collective humanity).
One thing that I don’t understand is What happened to Shulk and Rex and A after they become “avatars”? Also why does Z have his own “avatars”? What do avatars do anyway?
Yea as I said in the video they really didn't explain this at all. Best guess of course is that without Alpha Origin needed 3 Avatars/Admins to work again because of Trinity Core processor shenanigans. Pretty sure this meant the physical bodies of Shulk and Rex died also because they gave their lifeforce to their kids. Of course after Origin restarted everything they were reborn as well.
I just realized that matthew and na'el are also an N and M but this time the cat girl is an N and the ponytail boy is a M, also also Nia and Melia are an N and M pair Coincidience? I think not!!
Great vid, one small nitpick I have though is calling N's sword the Sword of the End. The sword N wields is the Sword of Origin while the sword Noah wields is Lucky 7/the Sword of the End, I find it easy to remember by thinking Mobius are in Origin so N has the Sword of Origin, Noah ends Aionios so he has the Sword of the End. I don't blame you because the swords are near identical and a lot of people make the same mistake and in the end it really doesn't matter. Other than that great vid, keep up the good work
I mean they actually call Noahs sword the sword of Origin as well when he pulls up the sword in his Ouroboros form. I think my brain went to sword of the end because Malos core crystal might be in it.
I went back and rewatched some cutscenes. N calls Noahs sword in ouroboros form the Sword of Origin. And when Z talks to N when he is down and depressed he calls him 'you who wield the sword of the end' So yea Ns sword is called that
@@SuperSavajin Hmm I also watched back some cutscenes, in the big Nia loredump one she directly calls Noah's sword the Sword of the End, I feel like I trust Nia more than Mobius for what the sword is called, given that she and Melia seem to be pretty close. In the confrontation with Y at colony Omega he also calls Noah's sword the Sword of the End. I also did watch back the cutscenes you mentioned and forgot that Z calls N's sword the Sword of the End when he's super depressed. I find it a bit more likely that Noah has the Sword of the End and Mobius just don't really know what they're talking about, because I trust Nia more than Z, and the naming parallels with N residing in origin with Mobius and Noah ending it all. It's also entirely possible that both of them are named the same thing but since both the terms Sword of Origin and Sword of the End are used I just assumed the two swords were called different things. Thinking about it I don't think the term Sword of Origin is used at all after the Agnus castle incident. Overall it's extremely unclear with evidence supporting both sides and doesn't really matter in the end. Thank you for reminding me that Z called N's the Sword of the End making this whole thing 10x more confusing for anyone like me who for some reason cares about a small detail like this.
@@Cosmic-Comet N uses two swords. The sword he uses in Agnus Castle is similar to Noah's Lucky Seven. The sword he uses in Origin is more similar to the sword from Noah's Ouroboros special. The sword sheaths also change.
Subtitles are available!
Hi, ich habe deinen Channel gerade entdeckt und gleich mal ein paar Videos nacheinander geschaut. Super, einen UA-camr aus Deutschland zu finden, der sich mit Xeno-Games beschäftigt. Hab' auf jeden Fall ein Abo dagelassen und bin gespannt auf deinen weiteren, interessanten Content.
Abseits davon, ich könnte mir vorstellen, dass du leichter mehr Reichweite gewinnen könntest, wenn du hier und da etwas mehr an deiner englischen Aussprache und den Formulierungen feilst. Ich hatte den starken deutschen Akzent ziemlich schnell rausgehört und das hat mich leider immer mal aus dem Inhalt rausgerissen. Einige Fehler im Satzbau bzw. bei verwendeten Begrifflichkeiten waren auch festzustellen, ich konnte mir aufgrund meines deutschsprachigen Hintergrundes aber gut zusammenreimen, wo das herkommt. 🙂
Das ist absolut nicht negativ gemeint, also bitte nicht persönlich nehmen! Ich finde lediglich, dass es deine Videos optimieren würde, wenn du deine Scripts möglichst nochmal von jemandem gegenlesen lässt, der Englisch etwas flüssiger beherrscht.
Ich bin zwar kein Englisch-Muttersprachler, habe aber durch meine Arbeit und Hobbys seit vielen Jahren täglich mit Englisch zu tun. Falls du Bock hast, kann ich dir gerne Tipps geben, wie konkrete Sätze besser formuliert und ausgesprochen werden können.
Ein allgemeiner Tipp: Hör dir ruhig mal dein Script über TTS (Text-to-Speech) an und sprich es nach, das kann massiv helfen, die eigene Aussprache zu verbessern.
Ansonsten, tolle Videos, sehr informativ, gut geschnitten, man merkt, dass du viel Arbeit da reinsteckst. 👍
This really, really feels like everything that Xenogears was meant to be.
Ya think?
I guess Riku truly was a common variety nopon all along
Xenosaga being canon and probably being a major plot point in the next xeno game is something nobody was expecting but god damn I'll take it
Thanks a lot for this. I'm usually pretty decent at following rpg stories, and while I loved all three xenoblade games, the timelines and finer details of some things escaped me. It really helps having it laid out clearly and concisely like this.
If Z was created from Origin giving the fear of the people in both worlds a form, then wouldn't it be thematically satisfying for Origin to read the will of the people in both worlds to see each other again and manifest that by combining both worlds?
Yeah, I've always felt the party running to each other as the worlds part is meant to be symbolic of what the souls from both worlds willing to confronting future without fear but still wanting to be with each other.
That's what happened in the ending tho?? Especially if you played the DLC.
I do think that was a big part of why they managed to recombine, yes.
Thanks so much for this video. I love revisiting the Xenoblade series through videos like this that remind me why inlove this series so much. It's so brilliantly put together and sometimes in 100+ hours of gameplay, it is easy to miss out or just forget important details. Can't wait for the next MonolithSoft release!
Very good choice for the picture of Tora at 8:48
Of course!
Really good video! Even when I knew everything I enjoyed watching it again with you explaining it.
Thank you!
I was under the impression both galea and klaus were split in some sense, the guldo thing in morytha that drops an ID card i think had an imagine of Galea on it. pretty weird and not expanded on to my memory
Amazing lore video 👏
Thank you! Ive never seen your content before but im so grateful that this explanation was cohesive, logical, qnd extremely clear. Yeah somethings are a bit nore interpretative. But you did an amazing job and i think this is the best time line explanation video ive seen yet!!!!! Definitely a sub from me!!!! I cant wait for more content!!!!!
Super happy to hear that 🙏
good stuff
12:22 it is implied by Melia that every "new life" it's recorder in origin.
Taion: 'So then, both us and the world... Everything thay exists, it's all false?"
Melia: "Everything that exists is reality. Present lives, and future ones... Moebius aside, the wills of countless people persist..."
I think the lives of the people of the city will exist in the future.
Edit: My first sentence was written oddly and I didn't like it haha
Yea I think that's the games excuse but if you think about it it's a culmination of 1000 years of different people in different circumstances that lead to their births. But maybe fate will lead to the same outcome some way.
@@SuperSavajin yes, we never know how a lot of people were born, and can only implied. But I think all of them will be born, somehow.
Matthew Vandham is…inevitable.
@@SuperSavajini mean yeah, but you kinda came to an unfounded conclusion when you assumed all the city folk were erased at the end of 3. That’d crap all over the themes of 3.
@@2yoyoyo1Unplugged That's not an unfounded conclusion, that's literally how Origin works. Even Ghondor expresses the chance of being reborn in this new world is sufficient enough for them at the ending. Now don't get me wrong I know a lot of people believe that the chance of them being reborn is very high and imo it is definitely possible but just thinking about it logically for me it just feels very unlikely because little things can change past events completely like a butterfly effect.
The messages of the game is also to move on even tho not knowing the future is scary which is reflected in this decision as well.
This video and channel needs much much more attention!!! Good work my man you nailed everything. Also shout out to Reyn time 😂😂
Ty 🙏
Awesome video!
Ty
I just finished the last DLC of the series and when I saw that last bit towards the ending, I knew this is why we haven't gotten any word on xenoblade chronicles X. I jumped for joy because I have so many questions I need answered and I believe takahashi now was able to take his time rebuilding X without the rush of investors. I believe most of X story will change to accommodate the two universe events.
Yea.. A remake is warranted for that game if it needs to fit the Canon.. It's current story doesn't fit the continuity properly
Reyn Time 18:43
Coolest accent, i love when you pronounce Klaus! Sounds powerful.
The strong German accent on Klaus and the soft Greek accent on Xeno.
Sava with another upload. 🫡
💪
Malos definitively survived and was recreated. We hear him talk to Pneuma when she sacrifices in order to control Aion and modify the world's tree fall. You can see in the scene that Artifice Aion has 3 slots, 2 of them are ON (Logos and Pneuma are working), maybe Pneuma absorbed him somehow. Anyway in the second game it is stated that each core crystal has enough information of the other two to recreate the core with help of a second crystal
Funny you say that I made a video about this exact thing.
14:51 I have a Theory, maybe the energy who transforms all the founders into a giant Ouroboros (with the sword of the end and the fists of the end), releases the hopes and dreams to a New data from N, just like Alvis was unshackled by Ghondor with the Ouroboros power, generating a New Noah and Mio from the N memories in Origin brougth a New Noah to the rebirth cycle
Definitely could be but that doesn't explain why Noah went back to the cycle after homecoming even before that.
There are a couple things you say that I'm not 100% sure I agree with. For instance that Citizens are definitely dead and will not be recreated after the end of XC3--In Chapter 7 Melia seems to be saying that "future lives" (meaning the people of the City) are recorded in Origin as well. Which means it would be possible in theory to recreate them (although the specifics for how that would happen are not discussed at all). Also it's not completely clear whether Noah was born back into the cycle within the timeframe of Future Redeemed. It is also possible that the Noah and Mio we see in the game are the first time they have been reborn after becoming Moebius. This isn't really clear in the game so I don't think we can say definitively that it happened the way you suggest.
However these are fairly minor points and I was really impressed by how much you managed to cover, so succinctly and clearly. I even was thinking "Is he gonna mention Burrburr???" and then you did! Nice. I was thinking a video like this needed to exist, so I was actually starting to script it out myself. But now I feel like I don't need to because you've pretty much covered all there is to say.
We definitely don't know how long it took Noah to respawn after becoming Moebius but I also don't think I went into specifics there. I just said it happened eventually.
Also I see a lot of people trying to say that the city people will also be recreated even tho Ghondor at the end pretty much confirms that they just hope to be reborn and we even see that Origin kicked back up as planned and reset everything so idk.
I feel like the points for City folks being recreated are more of a reach than saying that they eventually will be born again.
I have a little theory as to why Noah and Mio were so special:
In future redeemed, Z was questioning how the sword of the end made it into N's hands, then concludes that.. at least it's implied in my opinion that N is a god chosen by Origin, kinda like how Shulk was a god.
Mio doesn't have a sword of the end but she is the daughter of the current strongest blade in Agnus (since Mythra lost her power from the conduit, including control over artifices)
So, assuming the Noah that became N was indeed Ghondor's father (as is implied), and this happened immediately after his death (or else he would have likely reincarnated already), There's a 70 year gap between Noah agreeing to become Moebius and him destroying the City to bring back Mio as M. What did he do during those 70 years? What did he get out of becoming Moebius if it would take 70 years before he would get to see Mio again?
I think it actually took that long for him to reappear in the cycle again. Now don't ask me why he had a cooldown to respawn tho
@@SuperSavajin The more I think about this games lore, the more it feels like there are deliberate holes that could contain enough story for an entire game. The beginning of Aionios has so many answers regarding the Aegis cores, the swords of the end, and why Noah and Mio are uniquely special.
As for N, large parts of his story doesn't quite add up. Notice how he has two separate cutscenes about becoming Moebius: the one where he becomes N and the one where he agrees to destroy the City. In both, he's wearing his City outfit, yet there's no way to combine the cutscenes into a single event that makes sense. There aren't any contradictions there, but it certainly feels like there's a lot of his story we still don't know.
I thought about it for a long time, I came to the conclusion that there were more reincarnations of Noah in that period of time (but they didn't do anything relevant) and then, we got to the scene where he offers to be a Moebius and Noah accepts... And if we talk about the scene where he asks him to destroy the city, I had the theory for a long time that they show us Noah in his city suit... to reflect the doubt of whether to do that horrible act just on his whim, but this "doubt" disappeared
@@marioalemus5177 Yeah, the Noah that is N, despite what Ghondor says, isn't explicitly "Papa Noah", especially considering N was kind of dismissive of Noah asking about him having a child.
Alternatively, I imagine that when a Kevesi or Agnian is brought back to the war from their cradle isn't exactly a set time frame. Sure, Nimue and the bully group from Colony 9 seemed to be brought back a couple years after their deaths, but then you have Cammuravi, Mwamba, and Hackt who were brought back about two months after their deaths (although considering Colony Omega being what it is, that could be a special case). So, the Noah and Mio we meet could be WELL after N and M's time, maybe 70 years. There's also the factor that N and M explicitly state "You are the hopes we cast aside" to Noah and Mio at the very end of base 3, so maybe all of N AND Ms hopes went bye-bye at the same time well after they were reincarnated as Moebius lol
But then you get little tidbits like how Mio is always older than Noah... Eh whatevs. 3's lore to me is less focused on being explicit so this may be something we never have a full blown answer to
@@themojogamer75 In the latter you are quite right, the game is more... open to interpretation than the other 2 that were more literal. possibly because of all the references to the different Takahashi sagas in the characters of the game
I don't think Origin was the force that brought the two worlds back together, that wasn't it's job. It was intended to put them back as they were before they collided, separate.
In the ending for Future Redeemed the worlds *interlink*. It's the power of Ouroborous that brings them together in a fusion not a collision.
But that goes against what we see happen with the 2 worlds before that. The splitting apart still happened when Noah and Mio were grown up and in Aionios and only after that Origin kicked back up. Also even interlinking itself has a time limit exactly because the overlap causes annihilation. So even if Origin isn't exactly the reason the two worlds interlinked it still had to reboot the states because they would cancel each other out.
@@SuperSavajin A friend of mine came up with the interpretation that Origin was made for nothing and the worlds were gonna reconnect just fine without it. I don't entirely agree with this interpretation, BUT is being created as a result of a fearful reaction to an uncertainty goes hand in hand with what Z is: a being made of humanity's fear of the uncertain future.
Again, I don't entirely agree with that interpretation, but it's interesting to think about
@@SuperSavajin Origin was supposed to recreate the two worlds exactly as they existed before the collision, able to coexist or at least able to proceed for a time before it was required to operate again if they swung back into each other.
But it didn't. It included things from Aionios along the way. We know that from the original ending where Noah hears Mio's off-seer melody. Something that had only ever existed on Aionios (because off-seers make their own variations).
Origin has no function related to reuniting the worlds, Ouroborous does.
Also, thematically if the future of the series is to dovetail with Xenosaga in some form, the union of soul and memory in an Interlink is pretty much the exact polar opposite of the causes of Gnosification (fear and rejection of collective humanity).
You've got my "like" as a sign of respect for Nia's goddess-like hips.
One thing that I don’t understand is What happened to Shulk and Rex and A after they become “avatars”? Also why does Z have his own “avatars”? What do avatars do anyway?
Yea as I said in the video they really didn't explain this at all. Best guess of course is that without Alpha Origin needed 3 Avatars/Admins to work again because of Trinity Core processor shenanigans. Pretty sure this meant the physical bodies of Shulk and Rex died also because they gave their lifeforce to their kids. Of course after Origin restarted everything they were reborn as well.
I just realized that matthew and na'el are also an N and M but this time the cat girl is an N and the ponytail boy is a M, also also Nia and Melia are an N and M pair Coincidience? I think not!!
For Nia...
Great video! I really hope its Elma in that last shot
Actually it goes into saga. Dimitri yuriev was part of the reason he poked it. In saga he wasnt a very nice person.
Great vid, one small nitpick I have though is calling N's sword the Sword of the End. The sword N wields is the Sword of Origin while the sword Noah wields is Lucky 7/the Sword of the End, I find it easy to remember by thinking Mobius are in Origin so N has the Sword of Origin, Noah ends Aionios so he has the Sword of the End. I don't blame you because the swords are near identical and a lot of people make the same mistake and in the end it really doesn't matter. Other than that great vid, keep up the good work
I mean they actually call Noahs sword the sword of Origin as well when he pulls up the sword in his Ouroboros form. I think my brain went to sword of the end because Malos core crystal might be in it.
I went back and rewatched some cutscenes.
N calls Noahs sword in ouroboros form the Sword of Origin.
And when Z talks to N when he is down and depressed he calls him 'you who wield the sword of the end'
So yea Ns sword is called that
@@SuperSavajin Hmm I also watched back some cutscenes, in the big Nia loredump one she directly calls Noah's sword the Sword of the End, I feel like I trust Nia more than Mobius for what the sword is called, given that she and Melia seem to be pretty close. In the confrontation with Y at colony Omega he also calls Noah's sword the Sword of the End. I also did watch back the cutscenes you mentioned and forgot that Z calls N's sword the Sword of the End when he's super depressed. I find it a bit more likely that Noah has the Sword of the End and Mobius just don't really know what they're talking about, because I trust Nia more than Z, and the naming parallels with N residing in origin with Mobius and Noah ending it all. It's also entirely possible that both of them are named the same thing but since both the terms Sword of Origin and Sword of the End are used I just assumed the two swords were called different things. Thinking about it I don't think the term Sword of Origin is used at all after the Agnus castle incident. Overall it's extremely unclear with evidence supporting both sides and doesn't really matter in the end. Thank you for reminding me that Z called N's the Sword of the End making this whole thing 10x more confusing for anyone like me who for some reason cares about a small detail like this.
@@Cosmic-Comet N uses two swords.
The sword he uses in Agnus Castle is similar to Noah's Lucky Seven.
The sword he uses in Origin is more similar to the sword from Noah's Ouroboros special.
The sword sheaths also change.