Fixing A John Deere Mower With A Stuck Pull Rope

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  • Опубліковано 30 лип 2023
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    Thanks for watching. This mower had so many surprises for me all the way until the end.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 103

  • @jaye2865
    @jaye2865 Рік тому +6

    Hopefully the engine is salvageable. If not, it would be great if you could find another 190cc Briggs and just swap the cover over. The mower is absolutely worth saving in my opinion. I mentioned in another video that I had a Cub Cadet SRC621 that I loved. It was made by MTD, but could be had with a Kawasaki. Mine had a Briggs. They were also sold under the Craftsman Professional moniker. John Deere had the JS40 and 45 and Ariens also made a great looking caster wheel mower. They are so unique and interesting.

    • @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE
      @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE  Рік тому +1

      yes It would be nice, but this particular engine is kind of hard to find.

    • @jaye2865
      @jaye2865 Рік тому

      @@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Yes, you're right.

  • @daig1984
    @daig1984 Рік тому +3

    You’ll get to the bottom of the problem I’m sure 👌🏻 definitely worth the extra work!!! Really cool mower, plus we get extra videos to watch 😅

  • @tnrodgers
    @tnrodgers Рік тому +2

    The cylinder was flooded, you cleared it, the compressor is good. Check the carb check valve and change the gas. I’d start there. BTW the cleaning is well done.

  • @juandeharo66
    @juandeharo66 Рік тому

    Got that degreaser you use and it works beautifully, got my lawnmower looking new.

  • @tylerbeach4727
    @tylerbeach4727 11 місяців тому

    I just came across your channel and I have to say I’m really enjoying your content. You are very knowledgeable and well spoken. I appreciate you taking the time to make these videos! Please keep up the good work sir.

  • @justincovington4401
    @justincovington4401 Рік тому

    I had a mower similar to this. With the swivel front wheels. But it was a cub cadet. Loved it. Mine had a manual pin to lock the wheels not a cable. But i ended up selling it.

  • @curtite
    @curtite Рік тому +1

    Just saw a fellow troubleshot a mower that runs well until shut off after 15 min. He thought could be a faulty ignition coil. Turnout the fuel system need a thorough cleaning from inside the tank, fuel hose and carburetor using an air hose. Found to that the fuel inlet into carb w/bowl has a hidden screen needs to be blown out too😃

    • @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE
      @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE  Рік тому

      thank you, and I appreciate your discretion when mention other troubleshooters

  • @lewiemcneely9143
    @lewiemcneely9143 Рік тому +1

    I'll say it's the fuel system from the tank on down somewhere. That's the way I'd go with it. Ran the new mower around yesterday and it's amazing but there are always little things cropping up, like putting heating blankets on the batteries to not have to take them inside in cold weather and being table to leave them hooked up to recharge every 2 months. That ought to be a factory option but I'm always overthinking things or trying to dodge bullets. Everything else so far is wonderful and 1/2 of the lo speed is plenty fast for good mowing but it'll sure FLY in hi! So far, so good BUT it's N E W so it ought to be. And never saw a mower like this before your video and up pops Teryl with one. Small world and Blessings!

    • @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE
      @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE  Рік тому

      by the way it stopped, you might be right!

    • @lewiemcneely9143
      @lewiemcneely9143 Рік тому

      @@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I'm sure we'll see thanks to our faithful repair person!

  • @crashoverride328
    @crashoverride328 Рік тому +1

    Identify the fluid in the cylinder - if fuel, check the carb / clean it, make sure the float is working as it should. Also se if the oil smells of gasoline, if so - change it. If oil - check head gasket.

  • @4orcedInduction69
    @4orcedInduction69 Рік тому

    I like the look of this bare steel or steel painted engine and recoil housing, makes the engine POP

  • @robertwilliams3983
    @robertwilliams3983 Рік тому

    I had a Murray mower with a 4hp b&s Quattro that ran & cut fine with a compression reading of 40. Although if a grass clog choked out when warm I had to prime it again to get it started back.

  • @raresr4092
    @raresr4092 Рік тому

    Fixed one of those same exact mowers and oddly enough it had the same issue with that cable on the caster wheels not holding it into place. Did get it running and left it out for sale for a while one wanted it which i thought was odd.. wasnt asking lot either and back then they really cost a lot to buy and were a fad you just don't see them now days much. honda made one as well. Was buyng a deere tractor and they took it on trade and gave me twice the amount of money i was asking for outright which turned out great. This was back in 2010 or around that time. Hope you can get something out of it if the engine dosent work out maybe try and stick another one it and sell it. just need to get the right person and they'll buy it. i guess around here in a small town was hard to find the right one for mine.

    • @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE
      @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE  Рік тому

      thank you for sharing that, and I think these are super rare now.

  • @mjg263
    @mjg263 Рік тому

    Probably water in the fuel. I’ve had problems with the carbs on those early Intek engines failing and filling the crankcase with fuel too. I guess the way they’re connected to the engine lets fuel leak into the cylinder instead of leaking out onto the deck when the needle valve or float fails. Very powerful engines though, great when they’re all sorted out.

    • @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE
      @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE  Рік тому

      thank you for the information and yes I'm leaning towards fuel right now

  • @gearhead366
    @gearhead366 11 місяців тому

    Not sure on this one. That smoke looked a bit like oil to me. But the compression is great, so the rings have to be good. So maybe the smoke was just a rich mixture, which, of course, points to the carb. Interesting mower, and interesting series.

    • @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE
      @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE  11 місяців тому

      I do believe some of the oil was either in the combustion side, or, just sitting in the muffler.

  • @butler386
    @butler386 Рік тому +1

    As I watched the video when you removed the fly wheel I noticed a lot of scoring on it where the coil rides. I wonder if a magnet came loose or the coil slipped some and now it will not pick up spark. That is my first thought. Save it if you can. Thanks for the videos.

  • @joelmollenkopf3767
    @joelmollenkopf3767 Рік тому

    Interesting

  • @jameshedrick605
    @jameshedrick605 Рік тому +1

    That's how i adjust the valves on my small engines. One valve open and the other one closed

    • @AdmiralDG
      @AdmiralDG Рік тому +1

      Can I ask why? Just because its normal procedure to do it with the piston at top dead.

    • @jameshedrick605
      @jameshedrick605 Рік тому +1

      @@AdmiralDG it's the way i'm use to doing it. Never had any issues doing it like that

    • @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE
      @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE  Рік тому

      I like this way much better.

    • @AdmiralDG
      @AdmiralDG Рік тому

      @@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE Any particular reason? Just preference? Only curious is all!

    • @Jim-ie6uf
      @Jim-ie6uf Рік тому +1

      @@AdmiralDG on a Briggs, it's 1/4" past tdc

  • @AdmiralDG
    @AdmiralDG Рік тому

    I would guess(emphasis on guess) the carb needs cleaning/adjusting as well as the oil is well over full as another comment noted. Solve those, plus fresh gas and I would think it would be all good.
    The "constant pressure" oil cap says to me that when its over full, the oil is being forced out the only way it can, to the cylinder and locking the engine as well as fouling the spark plug.
    Good luck, its a very cool mower!
    I passed up on a vintage ~50s era mower that had fins like the cars of the same time as well as a beautiful blue paint job and chrome details... will always regret that. It was only $20 at a garage sale -_-

  • @cptyler150
    @cptyler150 Рік тому

    Check flywheel key possibility that it sheared under the engine load and test I had that happen before the foot lbs needs to be slightly higher. Nut might have not been tight enough. Then check carburetor for a swollen seat replace if necessary
    Try again for test

  • @regularpit1508
    @regularpit1508 10 місяців тому

    I saw a craftsmen mower just like this at our local Lowes in a completely crushed box and it such a weird design.

    • @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE
      @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE  10 місяців тому

      interesting, I've never seen the craftsman version

    • @regularpit1508
      @regularpit1508 10 місяців тому

      @@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I looked it up after posting it and Lowes has them online which I didn't know but here's the name of it. I honestly wish I'd seen this before the other day.
      CRAFTSMAN M430 223-cc 28-in Gas Self-propelled Lawn Mower with Briggs and Stratton Engine.

  • @j.bru_36
    @j.bru_36 9 місяців тому

    Carb needle is stuck open allowing it to over fuel. The smoke is from everything going on, including many attempted starts once you get the carb right, run it the smoke will subside.

  • @watermanone7567
    @watermanone7567 Рік тому +1

    Could be water or a bad coil. If you swap the engine put the JD covers on the other engine. Thanks

    • @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE
      @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE  Рік тому +1

      the cover would have to include the carb and intake and I'm not sure they're able to be transferred

  • @AlessandroGenTLe
    @AlessandroGenTLe Рік тому +1

    Well, I'd start replacing the oil with the right amount (this is overflooded with it for what I've seen at 1:52), and then check the carb. That flooding is probably coming from a stuck open floating valve...

    • @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE
      @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE  Рік тому +2

      yes you are correct, but I think there's more to it than too much oil. In fact, it may not be all oil

  • @billsmith1770
    @billsmith1770 Рік тому

    if i even suspect one hasn't been running for a while (or if my neighbor "king of water in the gas" brings one) i drain the gas before 1st attempt to start . i've always lost , any time i ever gambled . would be interesting to see how you fix/fixed the worn front wheel .

  • @berkeleygang1834
    @berkeleygang1834 Рік тому

    I suspect the carb float isn't closing, hydrolocking the motor. But that stuff that came out when you cleared the cylinder looked like it had oil. So I dunno, but I'd check the carb.

  • @jerrysoutherland662
    @jerrysoutherland662 Рік тому

    I would start with the spark plug clean or replace it since it was vapor lock.

  • @macknumber9
    @macknumber9 Рік тому +2

    How did the oil look? My guess is it got thinned out by the gas....considering you were hydrolocked with fuel/oil and not with water...
    Seeing how you were burning oil all the way to it stalling tells me the oil made it past the rings to be burned off...knowing the high compression readings we can determine that your rings are healthy and the gas mixing with oil caused the oil to lose its viscosity and also raised the level making it past the rings....this is just my guess based on what i have seen so far

    • @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE
      @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE  Рік тому

      yes that's what I was thinking too, but there's a huge problem. If the carb was leaking, It would leak all the time, not just when it's running, so that fact that there was still some gasoline in the tank has me wondering if the carb is NOT leaking, and it's all oil.

    • @macknumber9
      @macknumber9 Рік тому

      @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE yes or somehow water got in the oil and also caused the level to rise as well as thin out....was the mower left outside?

  • @Patrick4959
    @Patrick4959 Рік тому

    i reckon you have dirty carburetor aka carby and i a good cleaning will fix that one or maybe one of the push rods popped out of place is my first thought.

    • @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE
      @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE  Рік тому

      that's a good place to start.

    • @Patrick4959
      @Patrick4959 Рік тому

      @@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE yes for sure and over here in Australia it's no different as mowers engine lovers and enthusiasts have come across the problems very often.

  • @UncleScotty
    @UncleScotty 11 місяців тому

    I would look at the magneto. At least, when it died, did you still have spark?

    • @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE
      @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE  11 місяців тому

      yes by the way it stoped it would seem spark related, and no I haven't gotten back to do any testing on this one just yet.

  • @Matthew_Does_To_Many_Things

    These smaller Intek engines are really powerful but always cause problems.

  • @tdumford1
    @tdumford1 Рік тому +1

    could have a bad carb flooding the engine out. I've had a few cause riding mowers to die

    • @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE
      @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE  Рік тому +1

      yes since I hadn't looked at the carb yet you might be right

  • @Unholyfaith1
    @Unholyfaith1 Рік тому

    shit that happens, my main push mower died last week randomly, after not using it. Just got done mowing the week before. New plug, good gas, clean carb, i thought valve lash, and then find intake is out of spec, fix that, then no start condition, went back saw the ignition coil was rubbing with the flywheel magnets and i just gave it the right gap and then nothing. Came back next day, been working fine since.

  • @christophermarshall5765
    @christophermarshall5765 Рік тому

    I think that the plug gap might be bridged with carbon. I’d be checking that first. Next, look for water in the fuel system.

  • @peachsncream5808
    @peachsncream5808 Рік тому

    Valve lash Nuts moved ?

  • @kencurtis228
    @kencurtis228 Рік тому

    I think the cylinder & rings are scored

  • @Vipex_134
    @Vipex_134 Рік тому

    Hey man, i have a question that i want to ask you. The mighty MS180 that is old enough to drive has lost some of its compression and has a scorched cyl and walls. I was planning on buying a MS231 but here i wanted your professional opinion. Should i buy the same ms180 (260$) or the ms181 for the fully adjustable carb (320$) or buy the ms231 for its fully adjustable carb and more horsepower (355$). The usage of the saw is on firewood, cutting trees in the yard/neighbour's abandoned house & yard and some rosehip and bushes i cut at the vineyard. * personally i think the ms231 is best bang for buck but i can be very wrong.

    • @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE
      @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE  Рік тому

      man tough call, personally , either the ms181 or the ms231, and you'll have to decide after that.

    • @Vipex_134
      @Vipex_134 Рік тому

      Well the rosehip trees and bushes at the vineyard can get very heavy and the 1.9hp the ms180 has isnt enough (because of compression loss i dont know if its really 1.9hp now) and the saw sees a lot of trouble. Maybe its wiser to get the ms231 to just have the power to cut through it

  • @liljoeii6091
    @liljoeii6091 Рік тому

    Maybe Bent a push rod Why it stops so fast.Just thought Thank you for the video

  • @GuysPlayingWithTools
    @GuysPlayingWithTools Рік тому

    I would do the plug first, then rebuild the carb. I would bet some of the liquid coming out of the cylinder with the plug out is fuel.

    • @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE
      @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE  Рік тому +1

      I think you're onto something

    • @GuysPlayingWithTools
      @GuysPlayingWithTools Рік тому

      @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE I would start there anyway. It seems like every time I see liquid kick out of the plug hole, it turns out the carb float was stuck.
      It will be fun to find out!

  • @HSC570
    @HSC570 Рік тому

    Hey if do decide to sell it let me know

  • @Turningwrenches85
    @Turningwrenches85 Рік тому

    Hopefully nothing serious, maybe the coil lost spark? I was gonna say valve but i saw you do the valve lash on it so it couldnt have been it.

  • @auskip07
    @auskip07 Рік тому

    That oil would have me worried.

  • @robertmailhos8159
    @robertmailhos8159 Рік тому

    My money is on the valve lash being out time

    • @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE
      @INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE  Рік тому +1

      thank you, I've definitely take a look into it.

    • @robertmailhos8159
      @robertmailhos8159 Рік тому

      @@INSIDEHOUSEGARAGE your welcome young man and hopefully it will be a great running mower once again

  • @Jim-ie6uf
    @Jim-ie6uf Рік тому

    Needle leaking

  • @rayburnett3066
    @rayburnett3066 Місяць тому

    I am not working on lawnmowers anymore